Bros & Shows - A Ballroom Divided (RHONY ep10 Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

What's up Bros? We made it back to RHONY. We are a week late, but at least we're back? In this episode, Raquel and Mel are throwing an engagement party. Ubah and Erin are at odds, despite talking everyday. There seems to be a lot of miscommunication/ smack talk behind backs happening. Ubah and Sai have teamed up together and they are seemingly against Erin. We thought Ubah and Brynn were a big problem but its looks like they're all good now? We get confused about who is mad at who and why. Jenna has a stoop sale. Brynn has a very emotional scene where she recaps an extremely traumatic event that she endured, and we appreciate her vulnerability and strength to share it on a national stage. All in all, this is the same show we stopped recapping... The drama is blah, we don't understand why nobody can throw a little shade. If you say anything shady ever, its the end of the world apparently. As Andy said, this show is here to stay so we will do our best to muscle through this season, but its still a tough watch in our opinion... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yeah. Well, to my displeasure, we're back. We're back. Roney, it is, I guess. I don't know. enough of you have been asking us if we're going to continue to recap it and he went on fan fest last week and said you guys better get used to rony because it's going nowhere to everybody's dismay and yeah we're back lay yeah well let's let's you know what here's the thing we may not enjoy it but we do take our job seriously here at the bro bros at the bros and shows network we take this shit seriously so don't worry we're still going to put our enthusiasm into this we're still going to going to recap it top to bottom we're still going to get into it is it the best show ever no and i think my biggest question mark is okay fine andy you know what it's here to stay roney is here to stay

what are we going to do how are we going to fix this and we don't have to address it i think that you treat this season we do this every fucking episode no no no no i'm not doing that i'm not doing that i'm saying if it's here to stay right so it's here to stay i think this season's a wash whatever that's already on the cutting room floor they already have everything there. I'm not saying you and I, let's go back and forth and figure out how to do this. I'm saying, I'm curious what we're going to get in the off season, what we're going to get next season. How will they fix this show? Because it is here to stay. And I think that was a big statement from Andy, especially at Fan Fest in lieu of BravoCon. It's like, okay, we all thought

it was going to get paused, whatever. It's here. We're keeping it. I am curious to see how they're going to go about this. We don't need to. to discuss it's simply a statement i'm making i'm just curious because it has to change somehow what are they going to do time will tell the hell if i know honestly we talk about this most of our recaps yes we're recapping the episode but the entire time we're just trying to figure out how they fix it right i don't want to do that now since we stopped recapping in this newest episode i think it's the 10th episode of the season rickle has taken a step forward she's way more of a centerpiece She's doing a lot more.

She's hosting an event. Obviously, it's her engagement party, but she's hosting events. She's getting mixed up. She's talking to a lot of the women. Instead of just being a standout star on her own, she's trying to mix it up at least a little bit. The problem is the rest of the cast. The rest of the cast isn't doing shit.

They are stuck. They aren't trying to change there for whatever reason thinking, hey, what we're doing is working, guys. And it's not. And I get that, you know, it's a lot different to be in the moment and be filming and say, Yeah, we've seen that on a lot of shows, right? It's going to work. And then it just doesn't hit.

The problem is they don't know in real time that it's not going to work. It's not like they can get the feedback from the fans and then change their approach. They're just going with it. So this is what we're going to get all season. I don't expect some sort of drastic change over the next five or six episodes. You know, obviously we still have a cast trip involved and whatever is going to happen there. Who knows? Whether they need to stop filming or cut filming short, like, I don't know.

Obviously, the easy answer is they do. do need to recast. They need to get rid of a couple people. They need a couple people gone, a couple people in. That's the only way that this is going to work, whether they're going to bring back some of the legacy cast. I don't know, whether they're going to bring in new faces. That seems more reasonable to me. That seems like something that they're going to do. So we don't know the answer. We really don't. They are stuck in this. They have invested so much money in this. It's New York. It's a staple series. It's a staple destination for housewife shows. And we're stuck with it. Yeah. And like I said, I'm not, we're not doing the game that we normally do of how do we fix it?

Shooter, let's go back and forth until we figured out. We both don't know at this point. It's just, it's going to be interesting because I think that you nailed it. I think they put a shitload into the advertising for this show, the marketing for this show. They really tried to make it successful by paying for it. And it just didn't land. I will say this. I think that in this cast, at least from diving back in as we have. Raquel's definitely bringing it. I like her. She's good.

She's entertaining. She's interesting. I like her relationship with Mel. That's interesting. I like that they are open about everything. Like it's so crazy. It doesn't take a whole lot. Just share your life and we'll actually buy into it.

Not to mention, I mean, they're just captivating people. But I think that Aaron, I know that you go back and forth. I think she's doing enough. Again, on a on a show that's not doing great. I think she's trying.

And I think that you have Bryn, again, who we've watched struggle through it, but try. I think on the other side with the rest of the cast, that's where my biggest issues lie. Because if we had, let's say, Raquel, Aaron, and Bryn doing what they're doing, right, on a different show. Where the rest of the cast is performing and you get the one standout star, that's a different story. Now it's like, okay, well, these three or whatever, but you have a decent cast around them. I think they can at least be a supporting cast. so you have pieces we'll see what they do with it we're not going to keep doing this game every week and you monsters sit here and listen to it and then you comment things on youtube like i'm not

even watching the show but i listen to your recap to drive the numbers and we're weeping at home we're weeping god damn it was it was just such a unfortunate series of events getting back into this lemony snicket i sat here luckily enough With me going on a trip tomorrow night, I am able to work from home. So I'm able to just kind of go about my day, do a little bit of work, watch a little bit of Bravo, start thinking about what I want to do for the post, for the recap and everything. I'm watching Beverly Hills. I'm enjoying it.

You know, that's another episode that there wasn't a whole lot there, but we're enjoying the season. It was entertaining, right? And it's entertaining, and it's fun, and there's enough there that we need to know answers for. And then I turn on Roney, and I'm like, why are we back here? We're back. goodness and this you know this episode had different things than other episodes this season just haven't had but still there's just you can point everything out and say that's not going to work that's not going to work there's not enough here the whole party the engagement party it's like

this would be fun if you guys are all showing up with eve and errand showing up as each other and everything that would be cool if the show was good if the show was awesome and you guys had a good reprieve where we got a couple of laughs in there awesome but we don't like you guys so this isn't funny to me this is boring i actually enjoyed the party i didn't mind the party and we'll get there but let's let's stop wasting time let's jump into this and we start out sigh has sliced her foot by drop kicking a bag that sucks she actually got like close to the artery which she mentions way later i'm like that's actually kind of scary but the genin lion stoop sale happens and And it's just fascinating to me because that would be interesting.

Like, that's interesting to me. The fact that there's people lined around the corner to go check out her closet is interesting to me, but I'm not really getting invested in it. I'm like, okay, like, whatever. I was kind of going along for the ride. I'm like, oh, that's interesting. If Beyonce wore that, that's cool. She wore that at the Metcala.

That's kind of cool. And then she says something, and I'm immediately like, I don't care now because she's like, you know what I'm trying to get rid of some things like I always try to move some things around at the end of the day I'm like you know what I need to get rid of all of it because I am so in love with my partner cast and I want her to move in and I love just spending time with her and this and that and the other thing it's like you cannot talk about her anymore unless we're allowed to meet her we met her mom but we're not allowed to meet her so I was somewhat intrigued by the stoop sale until she mentioned why she's doing it. I'm like, well, now I'm just mad because

we don't get the payoff as to why you're doing this. You know, we get to see people come in and out, whatever, they're excited to meet Jenna Lions or excited to buy your clothes. Do you think they're excited to meet Jenna Lions because she, for the fashion aspect, like those girls that walked in that saw her and on those were Ronnie fans. Do you think they were Ronnie fans? The first ones were, I think you get a mix, honestly, because she is, she is a fashionable person in New York City. And I respect that. I respect the hell out of that. I like that she is that person in that world. She's a terrible housewife. So if you're going to be excited to go meet her, that is the like one of the lowest people on the total poll that I'd be excited to meet. I'd be more excited to meet Adriana

in Miami than I would, Jenna Lyons. Well, I think what you get is the fact that, you know, regardless of who it is, you're in a housewife's beautiful New York. You're on camera. You're on camera. one of them bought her Roney jacket and walked out with that, like I saw that. So like I get the allure. Is that symbolism, by the way?

Oh, I don't know. Oh, my goodness. No, no, this show's not that deep. Come on now. I get the fuck out of it.

Can we read into that? That person who just took that jacket, that's actually Jeddiline's leaving. Oh, that's the next housewife that just bought the jacket and joined the show. Whoever buys this jacket, there's a note in the pocket that says, congratulations.

You're up next. That's like a post credit scene for a Marvel movie now. that would be interesting actually if they started we're doing it again yeah it's impossible not to okay it's impossible not to try to make it more interesting that it is here's the difference between you and i because i'll watch this and i as a serial optimist you can compartmental optimist i compartmental i compartmentalize and try to find things or i'm like all right i'm going to at least try to watch this okay i'm at least going to try to enjoy this part you who are a serial pessimist and you're going to say no i'm a realist because that's what people like you did

No, I'm a pest must for sure, without a doubt. You watch it and go, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. Hey, strange that just walked in, I hate you too. That's your outlook. I don't have that outlook, but I think it's impossible for us to watch this and not try to find ways to make it more enjoyable, even when we agree. Before we start recording, we agree, let's not do that. And we do it, but whatever.

Honestly, my phone during this entire episode was calling to me like the green goblin mask. Like, I'm Willem DeFoe. Oh, I put mine to charge. That's smart. My phone was sitting on the other side of the couch and I just kept staring at it like, TikTok would be way more interesting than this. I'd rather watch a scene from a movie that I've already seen 50 times on TikTok, part 21, whatever, because they have the entire movie on those things,

then I'd rather watch this. So, yeah, that's what happens. I did. Can we analyze now? Are we vented enough? No, we're going to keep venting. Okay, cool. Well, we get to Raquel and Aaron.

and they had a little bit of a falling out last week at the picnic. I think that was somewhat triggered by Uber and the gaslighting thing. And it all comes from the stupid prank, which, no, we didn't recap that episode. We were going to, and our idea was to do our normal intro, say, we're here to talk about the prank episode. And I was going to say, well, that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope, Rob Rose are out here. That was our plan.

And we didn't even have the time to do that because we've been a little busy. But this all stems from the Rebecca Minkoff rumor that she was swinging, got pregnant, whatever. And now you have Raquel and Aaron who have been tight. They are kind of budding heads. So they have this lunch to clear the air, which I'm glad that they were able to sweep this one. And I know that we have talked about one of our issues this season being the fact that we're too quick to move on sometimes. But the flip side of this group, as we've seen carryover from last year, is they will also get stuck on certain things. that are not sticky like these things should not be a sticking point like they're missing the

mark as to what they should be upset about for a long period of time what they shouldn't be so this is one of those things where it's like yeah it's a disagreement it's not that deep let's move on from this whole thing because you guys are friends whatever but you're starting to see who are the driving forces of divides in this group a lot of the time it is brin you know and like Bryn was part of this because she was saying that she was in on it. And she's telling Raquel, like, oh, she let me know this whole thing, which she really, to our knowledge, she knew about it. But she wasn't one of the pranksters. No.

So it's not that deep. Raquel gets upset. Aaron gets upset. It's a whole misunderstanding. But they hash it out. They move on. And they start talking about Uba. And we have seen the tension.

And I don't know if this is all stemming from the glasses thing. on the on the on the cast trip last year i just feel like they don't vibe i feel like they just don't get along to a certain point even though they force it down our throats week after week like i love uba i love erin we're like sisters we do this we do that but then we watch the episode and all they do when they're not near each other is talk shit about the other one and then say that the other person's in the wrong like that's what we keep getting from this whole thing. And it hits its peak with the gaslight comment. When Uber walks in, it's like, oh, I'm glad I'm not being gaslit this time. It's Jenna. I feel like Uber tries to get under

Aaron's skin much more so than Aaron does with Uber. Aaron says some stupid shit because I don't know if she doesn't think it through. I'm not sure what her game plan. I don't think it's a game plan. I think she's just gossiping. Some shit comes out. And then, Uba hears it and she acts like it's the end of the world that, oh, you're such a snake, you're a pigeon, you're this, you're that, you're the other. It doesn't need to be that fucking serious all the time. That goes back to what Raquel said, where it's like you say one wrong thing and you don't talk for a year.

The stuff that they are arguing about does not need to be this deep. It doesn't matter. Nothing they talk about matters. And Uba, Uba is, Uber has to go. She has not. She cannot survive the second season. She can't handle being a housewife. it looks like at times she can't even handle being a friend to people because she doesn't understand how things work she gets so up in arms over the stupidest little things that happen and i just don't understand it and the worst part is she drags everybody else down sigh who was you know annoying a shit last year she at least did things and she drove storylines to a certain extent this year she's just there for uba to complain to and then they just kind of add on to it it's just if uba was annoyed

and she was annoying to the fans, and she just started going on tirades, fine, go ahead and do that. You're going to be really annoying and it's going to be really unpleasant to watch, and I just don't want to deal with it because you can't handle being a housewife and you're ruining the show.

If the rest of the cast could stay out of it and just be like, oh, well, let Uber go off and just kind of like let her do her thing, whatever, it's not going to affect me. That would be one thing. But she does it in a way that brings half the group to her side, and then we have to talk about it all the time. What are we even talking about anymore?

you're still upset about so many little things that happens. And I get it, no big things have happened. There is no real big overarching storyline that we actually care about. There's nothing that's captivating the audience. I understand that. But Uba is the driving force of the annoyance right now. And she has to go. For everybody else to be able to maybe step up and become a housewife,

Uber can't be there. I agree. If she survives this season, I am going to be livid. Because we're going to watch it again and it's going to be the same shit. I agree. And I think that the biggest issue right now is that if you try to get messy, right? And we've watched it happen time and time again. If you try to get messy and Uba's involved in any way, shape, or form, it turns into you're defaming my character.

You're talking, you're ruining my image, whatever the fuck it is. It's like it doesn't need to be that deep all the time. Sometimes it can be some people talking shit, trying to stir the pot. She called her out at the reunion. You're a shitster. That's what we need on these shows. I'm not saying you want to watch what these shows are. Yeah.

Yeah, we don't want to see fights all the time, but we do need to see some drama, some shady comments, and we need to be able to see them without it becoming this huge deal to where people are now not wanting to speak up, because they don't know how long it's going to last. And with Sai, you had her on the Zen journey, whatever she was trying to do, whatever, was it entertaining? Not really. But now she's on team Uber, and they just both sit there. spin narratives back and forth, whether they're true or not, or whether they're that deep

or not, they're not interesting, but they feed into it with each other. And now they're bringing Raquel into it and that last scene that we get with them talking. And I'm like, dude, don't, don't drag her into this, please, because now she's picking sides and there's no real sides here. You just need to move on from this shit. And it's crazy to me that we watched for the first, I don't know, six, seven episodes, Uba hated Bryn, you're a snake, you're a liar, you're two-faced, you talk behind our back, we saw the Hampton's trip get ruined because you couldn't leave Bryn alone.

Now, because you found an in with Bryn or you see that you can team up with Bryn, now you're going to bat for Bryn and talking shit about Aaron. It's like, where's the line? What are we doing? What's our focal point? What are we supposed to be focused on and who are we supposed to be mad at? Why are we mad at them? can you tell me this is genuine tell me what we're pissed off about who from what perspective

fuba inside oh i have no fucking idea i think they just don't like brin that much but who the hell knows i don't think aaron's two-faced but that that goes back it's like whoop who back it really is i saw a comment because bravo tries to put these out every week and they don't really do it for other shows as much as they do it for ronies so they know they have a problem on their hands. And they post these things on Instagram and every single comment is negative, negative, negative, negative. And I saw one that actually made me laugh and it was the real passive aggressive co-workers of New York because that's what they are. That is all they are. They are co-workers that have to see each other because they work in the same building. They don't really

like each other and they're just being petty and passive aggressive the entire time. And none of it really matters in the end of the world. We don't care. We just do not care. And that's the worst part. I might be able to give you a real answer as to what I think Uber's actually mad about, but there's no investment from me as a viewer. So I can't really think that deeply on it because I don't know and I don't care at the end of the day. And she just drives me crazy because it's, again, it's ruining the entire show. Like the point that you just made where everybody's afraid to even say anything around her because they don't know what the backlash is going to be. Aaron's not really. Bryn wasn't really. But you see what happened. She's.

is an absolute meltdown and goes after you and it can't be pleasant it can't be fun and it's not in a good fucking like old rooney way like a house spiky way where it's like dig dig shade it's like you're defamed my character you snake snake snake it's yeah no it's it's just annoying and like she's she said pigeon like 50 times this year and it never landed it just hasn't once so i i just don't understand what we're doing here with amex platinum access to exclusive amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime. That's the powerful backing

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and first purchase of a dollar or more. See the Tim's app for details at participating restaurants in Canada for a limited time. And it's a bummer because, you know what? Sye had the makings last season. Like, yeah, she wasn't our favorite last year, but she had the makings of not necessarily a villain, but you know, just that person that she's going to talk a lot of shit. Don't step to her because she's going to come after you. But in a more shady fun way, like she had.

the makings to where I was like, okay, I'm looking for a big step forward from Sye this season. She went on her Zen journey. Look, it's a personal choice, whatever. But now she's kind of in the middle where it's like, now she's not even doing her own thing. Now she's kind of a side piece to the rest of the show and not giving us kind of anything. And I think that she had a chance to stand out this year.

And she did not. And that's a bummer for me. And I get stuck on that one a lot because I had high hopes for Sye. And I didn't love her last year, but I saw pieces. I was like, okay, she can do this. And now it's all out the window. I agree with that. We get to the engagement party, and it's, uh, this is a ballroom culture, which is part

of the queer culture, which is, it's vogueing. It's, uh, well, it's wearing iterations of yourself, I believe was explained later. It looks like a fucking blast. All right. So that's why I had a fun. It was another, it was another chosen family event. Yes, there's a chosen family. A lot of those.

And this I actually was like, okay, I fuck with this. This is cool. looks like an absolute blast. People are getting down on the dance floor. The dance move that everybody's doing, I would tear my ACL, my MCL, my hamstring. They keep landing on their leg all funky. What is that called? No idea. What's that move? I have no idea, but I thought the same thing. Like, I wouldn't be able to walk for two years probably. I flinched as they kept landing. I was like, ooh, my knee. I popped a hip watching them. Yeah, that's what I'm say i got the ice during this but i will say i thought jenna nailed it like when she walked

in i was like wow that that's well done i did think that jessel nailed it even though brin says later she doesn't like she did look like madonna i thought everybody everybody got the assignment brin me i thought she was just dressed for like a gala with sparkles on she does it pop it looks like he's like a pimp in the 70s i didn't really know that look either or like boogie Nikes. Boogie Nights. That's what I got. Yeah. Boogie Nights vibe from Pavette. Abe and Aaron. Good. Good. Like that. I learned a lot, though. I learned a lot. I learned about butt pad undies. Didn't know about those. So you can enhance your booty without enhancing your booty. Yep. And I learned about a soft pack, which is a fake peepee. Yep. Now, is it a soft pack because it's a soft pee pee. Do you think there's a hard pack? That was my question. Let's get Let's get to the nitty-gritty. Let's get to the hard questions. It's just a strap on at that point.

Jesus Christ. Okay, fine. Well, these are the moments where I'm like, all right, this gets me excited within this realm. Okay. Do you understand what that means? Like, this gets me excited within the realm of Roney. So if it was another show, I'd be like, this is nothing. But because I'm searching and clawing and scratching and trying to unearth something to be like,

I get what you're trying to do, but the word excited in this show just don't work for me. I understand that, but this is, I'm going to stick with it. When Raquel's talking and Mel are talking about, they haven't set a date yet, they're not sure when they're getting married. And she goes on to talk about Chris Rock, so nonchalant. She's like, oh, man, like Chris Rock went on a rant about this, about I was like an international heartbreaker and she was telling Mel this. Like, oh, she's not going to settle down, this, that, the other. I was like, okay, so this is why the show sucks, because you have Raquel, who's in the high art world, knows Chris Rock, by his first name, they can chit chat. Chris Rock knows her enough to tell anecdotes about her.

You've got Jenna Lyons who goes to the Met Gala all the time. You've got people that have the connections. Yep. These are celebrities. They're amongst celebrities. we don't talk about this shit ever ever why we're in roney this is we're supposed to i want to hear about chris rock i want to hear what you did at the met gala i want to talk about this stuff but we don't we talk about the same trivial nonsense each week and it is i'm i am irritated i'm irritated

yeah by this yes i am because she's talking about chris rock that's cool but like Like, I don't fucking care. And Raquel's cool, but I don't care. Whatever. I'm going to keep going. Woo-sah. Well, I mean, look, she did wear the heart dress for the third, fourth time now that we've seen this. Yeah.

And I guess that's the theme of the year because we also saw Brittany went to San Laurent and found it and put it on. So now we've seen it again. Oh, all right. Go with that. Because I was told that there was only two in the world. Yeah. So now Brahman's just lying. I'm getting debunked

Unless that was Unless they sell it back Or it was like a rent the runway deal Which that would be a scathing indictment on Braun I'm not saying that I feel like her attorney's gonna come after me I didn't That's not what I said

I feel like that of all the shit that we've said That's the one I feel like that's gonna come back and get me I'm happy you realized how terrible it was That you said rent the runway Oh yeah no that would that would come back And like I would get a cease and assist about that Not our rants about the dudes on these shows that's going to be the one to bite us in the ass.

I'm not saying she did that. I'm just saying we've seen this dress thrice. And I was told that it's only made twice. Yep. Okay. But Uber's not partying. She's sitting at the table and, you know, it seems like she's pissed at Aaron because of what we've seen and how we've seen her talk about Aaron, right?

Like, it's not a, it's not a secret. You just called her a gaslighter at your picnic. Yep. And then she left. So clearly you guys aren't good. it's weird though because apparently there's phone calls every day i'm not really sure where they stand but i i will say there's obviously tension between the two of you that's not a secret and uva goes and talks to to jena about it and jena lets it slip not lets it slip just flat out

tells her erin thinks that we're coming after and she's like well we talk all the time and with everything i'm going through she says this nobody's coming for but as we see later it gets really difficult to stay on task for me when Uba's ranting about stuff because we saw the text message before this. We're going to see it again and after this where she calls her pathetic. She calls her a snake. We've seen how she talks about her with other people. If I'm on the receiving end of that, any of those three individually, all those together,

I do think that you have something against me. I don't know if you're coming for me. But you clearly don't like. me, but it's almost as though Uba lives moment to moment where it's like, I'm not mad at her right now, so what is she talking about? But then she'll go talk to somebody behind a closed door and be like, oh, I hate her. It's like, well, where are we? Because I don't understand that.

Yeah, I mean, I really don't understand where she's coming from because the flipping and the flopping, she's done it with Bryn, she's done it now with Aaron. I don't get the calls every single day. Like, what are you guys talking about that you can't show? on camera. Jenna also said something about talking to Aaron on the phone a little bit earlier and like we didn't see any of that either. So it's just like what is happening? Like why are we hearing about these phone calls that are happening behind scenes? But then when we see you guys on camera, you're acting completely different. Like we're hearing that you're doing things on

the side. Uber too. Like I get it. I think it makes more sense for Aaron to be confused at why Uba is acting that way when they're talking every single day? Like, why is Uba still have a problem with me? Why is she calling me a gaslight? Why is she making me cry and walk away from a picnic when we talk every day? Uba's sitting there and saying, we talk every single day. Why does she think I'm coming after her? It's like, because you are coming after her.

Every time the cameras are rolling, every time that you have an event, you're going after her. You're going after really everybody that says anything even remotely negative. So, yeah, of course she's coming after you. Like, that makes sense. I don't understand, like, it's just not getting through to me. what uba's motives are and i don't think that she really knows what her motives are either like sometimes we'll look at things and say oh they're putting on a facade for for the show they're

trying to drum up some sort of drama or interest in the show that you know might land with the viewers and it might be a storyline and we can keep this going for a while but we're still going to talk and be friends but we're acting like we're at odds with uba i don't get the sense that she's doing anything for the show it just seems like she just doesn't know where she is like she's Like she can't land on one side or the other, but in like, it's like a, it's like a microcosm for the whole thing that Uber is doing is saying that you talk on the phone every day and also saying, well, yeah, I am coming after her because she is a gaslighter. Like, why? It's so confusing. And if she says we're good, we're fine, but we talk, but she is a gas leader.

She's a snake, but we're good. Yeah. But we're not good because now she's talking back and you're calling everybody pigeons. You're calling everybody snakes. you're she called erin after when erin was saying that she had secrets about everybody which you know like it's a nothing comment she got offended at that it's like what you can tell whatever secret you have about me you can say and she calls her a bitch like i i just do not genuinely understand the uba at all and again whatever she's doing does not play for any reality

tv show that's why she's just not made for it she just doesn't belong here yeah i think you're right but let's keep going we get to talk about um This is a real scene. This one is a tougher scene. I wasn't expecting this, but we're talking about Bryn's book deal with Smith and Schuster. Simon and Schuster, Simon and Schuster. So she signed a book deal. It's like a self-help autobiography or tell-all or something like that.

It's a self-help memoir, but there's a ghost writer writing it. Now, I was interested to see that this ghost writer just showed up and she got the, I guess, the label of Ghostwriter. that's usually something you try to keep hidden, I think. Maybe not. No, if it's like a co-write, like some people just, you tell them and they translate it. But I guess the ghost writer is speaking. Bryn clarified in she's writing the anecdotes. Yeah.

And she's going to bring the tools on how to use this stuff to self-help. But I will say this about this scene. This helped me understand Bryn a lot more. Yeah. Just based on her behavior and how she's, acts sometimes and her dating life and kind of a lot sort of clicked. I'm like, okay, this does make sense and it's unfortunate that this is why it makes sense. But she starts talking about she had previously been sexually assaulted. And I think it was four years ago, if I,

if I heard that correctly. And this completely changed her life as it does with so many people. And it was difficult to listen to. Again, it does help you understand why she is the way she is, especially currently. But she's talking about how it affected her relationship with her Mimi. And we know that she passed away. And she pretty much says I lost an entire year with her because I was so afraid to tell her or ashamed to tell her that for a year, I distance myself. And then she passed away. And I'll never get that time back.

She talks about her relationships, you know, the fact that she's not able to. get too close to a guy anymore because at some point she realizes, I'm going to have to tell him about this and she doesn't want to. So it's really ravaged her entire life. And it's so sad to hear and it sounds like she's working through it in her own way. And I think this book is going to help her do that. And I think it's going to help a lot of people. I think, again, just by watching her be open about, it's going to help a ton of people. But yeah, I mean, we can look at this. We can look of this scene in a vacuum essentially. Yeah.

This is, yes, it does give you a lot of insight into who Brin is where she came from, a little bit of backstory, which we always like to have on these shows because it helps us understand who you are as a person, helps us understand the things that you're doing. And this is something that's super fucking tough to share. And, you know, we've been seeing a lot of that on Broppo recently. And it's got to be a lot to sit down and have a scene like this to actually open up. And it shows how far she's come.

It shows, you know, everything that she's gone through the fact that she's, She's able to talk about this on a national platform and get through to people because I'm sure this resonates with a ton of different people. Whether you're watching this show or not, you might just see the clip. It's going to resonate with you because she's able to be open about it. She's able to sit there and talk to you, talk to the audience, talk to the ghostwriter and get through everything and even come out on the other side and say, you know, I knew that I was through this or I knew that I was at least healing because I was able to make a dick joke. So in a way that really only Bryn can do that where she can talk about something that is traumatic in her. life, something that will resonate with a lot of people watching, something that is very serious. And it's something that happens all the time that she can sit there and talk about how

she got through it and then still throw in a dick joke at the end. That is Brynn. And that's something that I think that this show and look, I'm not saying that people need to have traumatic events in all these shows, but it's something that this show has been missing because we haven't had a lot of backstory. We haven't had a lot of personal stories about growth and things that have happens in their lives in their background and in their, you know, backstory for the audience. We haven't had a lot of that. We haven't been able to attach ourselves to somebody emotionally. And this is one of those scenes that could happen. So again, looking at this in a vacuum, great job by Bryn to even be able to share

this, to even be able to go on the national platform and go through all of this. So kudos to her. Yeah, I agree. And I think that if you look at in a broader scope and you, you want to say, you know, that the big struggle with this show is a lot of the cast members aren't willing to get into their past. And we're not saying it needs to be something to this degree. Obviously, if you feel comfortable sharing, that's on you and it's powerful and thank you for sharing. But of course, not everyone's going to feel up to it.

That's fine. Yeah. But if you want to talk about emotional connection with characters, getting them to open up, then I will once again credit Bryn for two seasons in a row because last year we got to learn about her family life growing. up. So as we're trying to nitpick as to who's actually trying to deliver, who's actually opening up, who's actually allowing or trying for a connection with the audience, again, I'll credit Bryn here for opening up. And especially with something so delicate, but it also,

I think that it has a lot more ramifications when you think about it too, because now the comment that Jeff Lewis made and that other people make about the fact that she's an escort or like, where she get her money, when you're hearing from her, that she's not comfortable getting close to men period over the past year because of her traumatic experience with sexual assault that's a whole different story now where okay it's like a one-off shady comment on a radio show it's like no she's dealing with all this shit and now she also has to defend the fact that she's not a sex worker right meanwhile she's seemingly not even getting intimate with men because of this horrible experience that she went through four years ago

yeah that's how long this will affect and it could affect somebody their entire life like that's That's why this shit is so fucked and so sad. But I hope that this is a step forward for her and able to heal from it. I know, again, when these things happen on TV, it reaches people that have been affected by it as well and will help some people. So as you said, in a vacuum, this is a touching scene. Good for you. Brin, it was powerful. I know that it helped people.

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Made just for you at Starbucks. The last scene is a split scene between Sai, Raquel, and Uba. This made me nervous for Raquel getting mixed up in like in the nonsense. Nothing fights. I'm like, dude, just stand alone for the season. Be you. Get involved in a different way. But like don't get dragged into this back.

and forth, but we don't know what's happening, even as the scenes going on, because on the flip side, you have Bryn and Aaron, and it starts out on both sides. We're fine. We talk every day, but you start to peel back the layers. And it's like, well, not really, though, because on one side, Uba's confused because they talk every day, but she's blaming Aaron for the conflict being created. Now we look back, she's like, oh, Aaron says, I create the conflict. Well, how?

When did I do that? We go over to air, and she's like, well, here, she called me pathetic. She called me a gaslighter. She said, I'm messy. Like, she says all these things to other people. She says it to my face. She calls me a snake. So, yeah, I feel like she's coming at me a little bit.

Not to mention you have Bryn who's trying to start some shit. And we've seen her do it all season where it's not necessarily true. Like with Jessel being basic. She's like, oh, Jenna called you basic. We saw the scene. Jenna didn't call her basic. You called her basic, Bryn. So now you have Bryn who had agreed with U.

Uber previous. They go, yeah, it's not that big of a deal. Like, you guys are fine. And then she's talking to Aaron and she's like, hmm, every time I talk to Uber, she's like, I'll say something nice about you. And Uber's like, oh, well, let me tell you something about her. So she's over there stirring the pie. Could you say she's trying to do her job? Maybe. Is it landing? No, this stuff doesn't land because it's just too dysfunctional. There's no, I can't track it. I don't know what's going on. And on the flip side, with Uber and Sai, they're just feeding into it. Well, you can't, you know, you know, Aaron, you can't even talk to Aaron. Like, this is how it goes there every single time.

And it's not worth talking to her in size. Like, I understand. I understand. It's like, based on what, though? Like, the trivial shit with the cheese last year and the food and just nothing of substance. I wish that we gave them credit last year for being able to move on. I'm flipping a complete 180. They can't.

They can't have lighthearted, shady fight. because it turns into, you are ruining my brand, you are ruining the public image of me. They're not. Nobody's doing that. No one cares if you guys have some funny shade thrown back and forth, but we seemingly can't afford to do that. We can't have funny one-liners. We can't have people poking and prodding because it turns into this whole thing where

there are snakes, they're pigeons, they're gaslighting. She didn't even use the term gaslight correctly at the picnic, as Raquel points out. And it leads to Aaron leaving. And then Uba's pissed at Aaron for leaving. But Aaron's pissed at Uber for saying gaslight. Like it's just silly, but not like, ha ha, silly. Like, silly, like, why am I wasting my time, silly? Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much what it is.

And again, it just creates more confusion because we don't know what's going on. Aaron and Bryn have been, I would say, targets number one and two this year from the other side of the cast for various reasons. And last year, I feel like they came under fire. Yeah, yeah, and I still do not understand what size beef is with Brin. It seems that she's mad. If I can just put this how I want to put it, Sai is mad at Brin for trying to make a good housewife show.

Because that's all Brin is really trying to do. Is she clumsy about it? Is she doing it in the wrong context? Is she doing it with the wrong group of people? Yes, across the board. But we can point out, because we've watched a lot of these shows and we analyze them, these are typical tropes that happen during housewife shows and brin is trying to do something by being by being shady and talking to both groups and telling things that she heard from other people

and trying to stir up some drama that's all she's trying to do she's trying to get you guys out of your boring fucking lives and get into a real housewife show even if she's lying like incessantly and making things up who cares that happens a lot that's what happens and that's what we need she's at least trying and she's not the best person for it as we've seen because it never works but more than anything it's the rest of the cast that just can't handle it size health journey is just her staying out of shit that's all it is she's not doing anything anything any differently she's just being more of herself but quietly and sticking to people like uba so that she can talk shit in private that's all you're really doing you haven't really changed at all and i said

that in the first episode when we did this it's one not going to be good for the show and it hasn't And two, you're not changing at all. You're just not talking to people that you have problems with, which is not conducive to a good housewife show. So Bryn and Aaron sitting over there saying, yeah, I just don't understand it. Like, we can apologize. We can try to figure it out. We can try to get on good terms of them.

But it never seems to actually work because Uber won't let it work. And Uber and Sire sitting over there like, oh, no, yeah. Why would we even try? You know what happens when you talk to Aaron? You know what happens when you talk to Aaron? Aaron responds. She tries to make it. She moves on.

She doesn't want to be. be stuck there. Brin doesn't want to be stuck there. They just want to move on so that they can do fun things and try to make a good show. You guys are stuck for whatever reason. I turned you into saying Aaron is trying. But I don't know. Yeah. Dude, it's not that fucking hard to try, to be honest. I still don't think she's good. And I don't really know if I want to see her return because now she's pregnant now. And look, I on watch what crappins, they always say if there's a pregnant person in a housewave show, it's never good for the TV show. And we saw, we saw, that with the valley last year it might not be good again we'll have to see how that works out but

i just don't get it and i don't think that rickle at least from what i saw i don't think she's getting sucked into the scy and the uba side at all i think she just happened to be there for the scene so just by commenting there i'm like uh-oh just the fact that she's been able rquel has been able to grow she's a newcomer she's been able to get into the middle and be a central figure on this show in spite of the rest of the cast that's really impressive we talk about newcomers being able to come on strong

being able to figure out their footing being able to get their way in and ingratiate themselves with not only the fans but the rest of the cast the fact that Raquel is able to do this on a horseshit show that sucks with no help really with zero help because the rest of the cast

is spiraling and they're terrible at their jobs Raquel has been able to move through all of that and get right to the center very quickly what happened to Jessel by the way Can we just point this out? I have no idea. You're on the cover of Rolling Stone last year. You're the head of the fucking Housewave show.

You're on Saturday Night Live. You're on Saturday Night Live. You're doing all of these things potentially being the center Apple on this show after last season. After the growth that you showed, you're not even in the show anymore. What are you doing? I don't know. You're having marital disputes with Pavit and that's it. That's all you have?

What's going on? I just don't know. I just don't get it. The show sucks. I'm going to say it again. the show fucking blows, and I hate watching it. But thanks, guys. I know you guys like watching us watch it.

Maybe this would be the one. We're like, ooh, this wasn't fun to listen to. Maybe this will be the one. I doubt it, dude. I don't know. It's probably going to be even better. I don't know. But we will find out.

We will hear from you. I do know that. You guys, will let us know. And something tells me that you're going to keep poking and say, keep going. And of course we will because we listen to you. You say jump. We say how high because that's what we're here for. We're here for you.

Mm-hmm. but don't think that we don't think about it sometimes well look this might be promising we only have two questions oh that's a good start but we did put the questions out like a half an hour ago two hours ago okay but it's also in the midst of Spotify unwrapped so maybe people just stopped looking at our stories

that could be true as well from haley harvison did you all see the replies on x when Andy asked for questions about the reunion. No, I haven't. No, I would imagine there, it's a war zone if I had to guess. I don't, I can't imagine that that went well. Should we read some?

We only have two. That's what we'll do. I'm looking them up. Yeah, since we only have two, I'm going to be looking them up. Let's see. There we go. Sergio from Clifton, New Jersey. Will you please all quit and apologize to this nation for ruining an iconic show?

Yes, they should. A reunion to discuss what? Give them a 30 minute, watch what happens live, special and wrap it up bravo's already done enough damage to this franchise makes me so sad from beth hughes i don't know why y'all are wasting money on a reunion just before you announced the cancellation of this abominate i was not canceled i got i skipped that sorry bethews from jenny why are they so boring and why are you so unwilling to accept that this reboot was wrong you just needed to get rid of leah and abney and all would have been fine admit when you were wrong the reboot stinks um question for

Andy, how hard is it for you to admit that you were wrong? Question for Ramona. Where are you? Question for Andrew Cohen. Ooh, legal name. Why do you keep trying to make fetch happen? We're never going to buy it, however hard you try. It's okay to admit you messed up when this was all your idea, baby.

The fix is very simple, and it's a gif of Luann. God, Jesus. Oh, my God, this one's funny. From Bethany's Waterbed. Why do you guys feel the need to make the show so bad? I think that's like, why do you need to make this so? Like, why do you have to try so hard? Not there saying, why are you intentionally making it so bad?

Yeah, so I read it. Yeah, a lot of these are just questions for the old members. Like question for Lou Ann, question for Ramona. Oh, man. Well. This is the last one. from born tired we have no questions Jesus yeah look I mean it's a resounding

it's a resounding shit storm who knows I don't know like I said in the beginning it's here to stay apparently so I'm more curious now just what they believe the fix would be that's all yeah that's right one one last one here because now I'm just stuck in a rabbit hole from Austin Collins can we do a lot Firing akin to Wendy Williams announcing the firings of the majority of the season four Rodecast.

Live firing would be electric. Everybody would tune into that. But, yeah, thank you to all of you beautiful listeners out there for making us to this. Thank you. Yeah, big old thank you to you guys, because this was so fun. I got your thank you right here, pal. Wow. I didn't say that.

That was old Shooter Magouter. but yeah we got to get finished up because we have to do Beverly Hills now which I'm excited for because that's I think that's also a struggle with Roney is every other show right now is good every other show is good this is the only bad one so it just highlights how bad it is but yeah we're going to go do that now because yay double thumbs up yeah yeah Hey, Michael.

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