Bros & Shows - A Celebration These Ladies Deserve (RHUGT Full Recap S5E9 Finale)

Episode Date: October 7, 2026

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free of charge. BetMGEMGEMP operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming, Ontario. Well, I never thought that I would be sitting here after an Ultimate Girls' Trip season, just praising this show. Absolutely applauding top to bottom, stellar work, everybody involved, every cast, every single little tidbit of this show was delightful. The culmination was the best part. Having everybody there at one time, being able to just kind of zoom in on different groups to see what's going on while still having. the overarching storyline of the women on the actual show. It was really well done.

It really was. I honestly, I'm applauding all around. Also, quick shout out to Rhode Island for going to a house full of all OGs, every housewife under the sun and not giving two fucks and just getting into it. Well done, ladies. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos.

Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a. I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brow Bros.

Your favorite podcast for the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Blue Stone Magooter. What's up, dude? Well, we got... Manor. Wait, what?

Yeah. What up? Why? Yeah. You went so far. Dude. Yeah, that works. Whatever.

Uh, we got what we wished for. We talked about it last week. We wanted the car. Well, I didn't expect or wish for a seven and a half hour card ride for everybody. But we did get the Luann shit underway and pretty much cleared up before they even left Manhattan. So kudos to all of them. I mean, that could have really dragged on the entire car ride. It could have dragged on the blue stone.

matter. It seemed like everybody was willing to just kind of live and let live, you know, in a very Luan way. And we moved on from it very quickly and we moved on to other things. Like I was, I was astounded that this thing didn't drag and hang over our heads for half the episode. Well, I'm just going to keep piling on to this Luan train that we've had going for the last few weeks. It's because she's a star. That's why. Because any other housewife in this position would get indignant. They'd get mad. they'd get sad, they'd throw a fit, and they wouldn't talk to anybody. Not Luann, she sits there, listens, analyzes, applies, responds, we're good.

That's why. That's why she is one of the greatest to ever do it. That's why I took it down because I remodeled it here. That's why we had Luann's mugshot on the wall in the studio forever, because she is in a league of her own. I think that that was a testament, jokes aside, to just the professionalism of a, of a, of lifetime housewife. But yeah, getting that out of the way immediately because this episode became exactly what we wanted it to. We talked about it last week. We wanted this to be a celebration of the housewives. We wanted to see everybody mixing it up, mostly having a good time. We didn't want it to be

heavy, didn't want it to be dark, any of that stuff. It wasn't. It was perfect. You had Andy with a nice speech. You had everybody getting along. You had Dorinda doing way too much trying to steal the spotlight constantly. All of it. Chef's kiss. It was great. It was beautiful. And I remember now that you just referenced her mugshot, that somebody had such a big problem with us having the bug shot up in the studio. Like, I can't believe you,

yeah, I can't believe that you have someone's lowest point in their life just hung up on your wall for all to see. It's like, where are you? She sells it as a t-shirt on her website, dude. Like, give me a break.

Always makes me laugh. But now I agree with you. I think that this ending is exactly what we were kind of going towards. It's supposed to be a celebration of everything. And then the one wrinkle that was involved that you already mentioned was Rhode Island. That is like penultimate, beautiful housewifery. They didn't even have their season yet. They haven't had their reunion yet.

They haven't aired it yet. Correct. Yeah, they filmed their season. They're still complaining and fighting with each other in the. room there around these other housewives. And yeah, some of them, it seems, especially Rosie, who is just like starstruck, seems like they understand what's going on and they know all the other women in the room, at least from afar.

But they still have things to settle. And they don't care that this is a celebration. They don't care that we're just celebrating housewives and it's supposed to be a nice night. They still have shit to talk about. Those are good housewives. I'm really excited for Rhode Island to get back. I was so excited for them to be involved in any way of this, of this caliber. and even the amount of time that they got,

the screen time that they got in this episode, I thought it was perfect. I thought it was really well done. Drenda, great host. We know she's a great host. She still somehow weaves in the control portion of this. I figured that she would probably tell everybody they have to take off their shoes. It was so well done.

I mean, everything just kind of chef's kiss. Yeah, to the Rhode Island crew to that point, all that tells me is no moment is too big, no stage is too big, no lights are too bright. They don't care. Like they are being respectful of the legacy, right? They're giving their people, their flowers. Like you said, Rosie was literally starstruck by Luan.

You're seeing all of them acknowledge and understand what they are, like where they are, and what a big moment this is. But at the same time, like you said, yeah, sure. Yeah, we know what this is going on. But at the same time, like Rosie has some shit to settle with Kelsey still. And they need to discuss this. They're going to discuss a rule. I don't get.

I can't wait. wait to talk about rule it feels like we got like a little mini episode of run island i know get to talk about it um but yeah i think that they they meshed very nicely with everybody and i think that that is a huge testament to that cast we've been praising them since they aired honestly episode one season one was it's been a banger since so it was fun to watch them get involved always fun to see housewives of old always fun to see different casts interacting with one another, but we like to jump around in this. We already kind of started with the drive.

And I think the craziest thing to me, seven and a half hours with a sprinter van full of housewives, it went well. They were fine. It went well. Dude, if you took prop bets on that, how long before a blowout, how long before somebody gets off and takes an Uber, I would have bet like the under every time. They made it. It's so funny.

It's incredibly funny because, yeah, like you said, that's never going to go well. And in a way, I understand why it went well. It was the end of their trip. And we heard that as, you know, confessionals kind of poured on as we're going through this seven and a half hour journey. It was the end of the trip. They were just tired. They were excited to get over with it.

They had one last night. Obviously, the night when they get there and they stay at the red line in, that doesn't really count. But the night after is the last of their trip. They get to go home. They get to have as much fun as they're. they want and not really worry about seeing these women again for another six to eight months depending on when they're going to see them for their prior commitments.

That's not how it should go, though. Like when I say that out loud, it sounds crazy. When I say that out loud, I'm thinking these are normal people. Like, yeah, it's the end of the trip. You're going to be kind of at your wits ends, but you're done with your trip. You're going to be fine. You're going to tune them out. They didn't just tune each other out.

They were having a blast. They stopped at Wendy's and got baby gorgeous meals. I mean, what? where did this come from? I know, again, it's the end of the trip, and they did weirdly, and we always think it's kind of fake when you kind of bond and resolve things along the way.

It's like, okay, yeah, we're just going to kind of try to move this train along. It seems like they actually did find some sort of level ground, at least with like Vicki Luann, the two people that they had the most problems with. They're all cool and they all love each other. This is something that I didn't really see coming, should have seen it coming because it seemed like we were going on that direction,

but I never thought that it was going to happen. Seven and a half hours, you and I would be like punching each other at some point just to feel something. I mean, what are you going to do? The Wendy's plug was one of my favorite parts because it's quite clearly like a paid thing because they have like the shot of the Wendy's bags and they're like talking about, ooh, we got dipping sauces. What else do we have to mention in this?

I'm talking about the drinks. And we got the drinks. What else? And the burgers and a burger. That was just a fun little stop. And I can't imagine what that Sprinter van smelled like. Not that they're farting. I just mean, you know,

when you get fast food in a shared space whilst driving, then like you're done. And if you stuff like an hour left, it just smells like French fries and rapper. And like, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

And look, this predates baby gorgeous. This predates, obviously we know that Lisa loves Wendy's. She may have had some sort of, I had some kind of dealer. Bravo, somebody hooked this up.

This was not a random stop. She did a social media, thing with Wendy's before. So yes, it predates the baby gorgeous meal, which, you know, incredible. But she did have something else going on with it. It was just, it's so camp and so goofy that you can't help the smile at it. Yeah. And we needed a plug in there somewhere, you know, to make this a real, real housewives show. But we get to the Red Lion in. We have been here many a time. We were here on the last ultimate girl's trip, I believe, because Dorinda was walking us around, talking about how she used to be a waitress there, and it's supposedly haunted and all the sudden.

other stuff. Everyone's getting to the rooms, the way it wants to get banged by a hot ghost, who doesn't. And the reception was so funny to me. You have 20 plus people in the lobby, seven and a half hour drive. It's apparently two in the morning, according to somebody. I don't know if I believe that. They said 11 at one point. That makes that sounds right. Yeah. Portia said it was two in the morning, but at this point, two weeks into your trip, you've gone west coast, East Coast with all different cities. She has no idea what time it is. Yeah, I'm not how old her to it.

I wonder if you think the same thing. When I heard the clapping, I kind of thought it was going to be a beautiful moment where all of like Bravo production and then like a handful of housewives were there waiting for them. Like you guys made it. It was such a great trip.

No, it was actually a bunch of older women and a couple of guys like kind of mixed in there. A couple of guys that clearly had no idea what they were doing there. Maybe their wife dragged them there. But now they're fans, which is what we want.

And it was such a, funny reception and even the people that you would imagine would be like all right seven and a half hours in the car get away from me even they were okay with it like one person was like that vicky vicky was a little standoff because i didn't care for it she was misidentified as luan and you would think she might throw a hissy fit about that she didn't really she's like no louan has dark hair got blonde hair it's okay she allowed some guy to just take her bags up maybe she thought it was a bell hot she didn't louan luan gave it to him and she had no idea and then she thought he was because the first thing she says when she walks in

where did it go? She should have tipped them. That would have really been the cherry on top. She gets in there and says, yeah, she wanted to go back to the room immediately. She goes, thank you all for waiting, but we didn't expect this. That is a nice way of saying, please leave. I want to go to bed. And then this random man takes the bag.

She laid in bed. The guy was there and she's still laid in bed. Like that was a very funny Vicky moment. But yeah, this is like the cherry on top. I really thought, again, when I heard the applause, that it was going to be Bravo people and it wasn't. And that is kind of what this whole thing is about. Like, these are the people that made the engine go.

The funniest thing is Dev and I, six years ago, we went to the Berkshires for a weekend because Dev had seen it on the show. So we went and stayed at gorgeous. I love the Berkshires. It was like the coolest little house in the middle of the woods. This beautiful property at goats and stuff was like an Airbnb. But the little town in the Berkshire, I'm a huge fan. So it's a great town.

But anyway, we wake up in the morning and L.B. I will never, I will never be okay with the lack of theme with LB. I just lean in down. You know, I know. I know. I'm like, oh, why do I have to? Because everyone's doing it, man. Just be cool.

It's one thing to do it. The Trixie Motel obviously comes up a lot. I guess. In a way, I kind of get it because you were told that you have to go overboard with your makeup and do this and that and whatever and you're uncomfortable with that fine, whatever. It was still lame when it happened, but like I can get over it. Theme nights are completely different? Like, are you going to tell me you don't dress up for Halloween? Like, what's that about?

She kind of doesn't. She put on cat ears last week when we were in New York. So, yeah, she doesn't really dress up for Halloween. So yeah, you can miss me with all that. That shit's lame. It's something that she really needs to get over. I agree. That's my one hang up.

Just like lean into the thing. But I love that we get a Berkshire's montage of just a lot of the moments that they've had there. You know, obviously we have a hand towel in the kitchen that says this. I decorated. I cooked. I made it nice. Like there's a whole list of iconic moments that have happened in the berserkers, as Lou calls it. But Lou added to rend up, this was exactly what I needed to just have a fun night.

Because we get a FaceTime recap. And Dorinda, she's hungry. She wants some tea. She's like, ooh, some shit popped off. Let me get it from my girl, Luann, so we can go guns loaded tonight. And Luann calls off the dog. She's like, you know what? And again, this is why she's a fucking star, everybody.

I didn't realize the other girls are so upset with me because I wasn't giving them the opportunity to discuss or have conversations. And I'm glad we had that come to Jesus moment. And we really bonded all of us. I was like, yeah, yes. Fuck yeah. It's not going to be a thing. We can go to this party and just have some fun. Dorinda, I know you're pissed because you don't have anything to use, but that's okay, because we just get to enjoy the evening.

Derinda doesn't need anything to use. We're at Bluestone matter. She can do whatever the hell she wants. This was just an adage that she could just throw in there. You know what she's doing? You hear it as soon as it leaves, as soon as it leaves her mouth, like, up, I know what you're doing. You're digging a little bit thinking that maybe there's a little thing here that you can get involved in because she facetimes you. And now you can have Luann's back in case anybody's coming after, which I appreciate it.

respect and I appreciate that. At the same time, Luann taking accountability was not really on my bingo list. I wasn't expecting that, but it was a very nice conversation and you can even see Duranah like, okay, cool. These people have been here for two fucking days in my house cooking food and setting things up.

So let's get this thing underway. I'm ready to roll. Yeah, I like that we jumped right into the party. I mean, obviously we had the Sprinter van seven hours, but other than that, this was all pretty much party centric. Weirdly enough, I think it's because it's the end of the trip. So it's like a closing moment, but it actually, for the first time, Vicky being a stick in the mud made me laugh.

Because when they're in the car, the way there, and LB is doing her story for Instagram, I'm in the, in the van, I've got Teresa here, and I've got that. Can you please just, do you mind until I get off the phone with American? That one was funny. She is absolutely leaving on the earliest flight tomorrow. She's on the red, what are you talking about? Oh, that's a good point. I, you know what?

They should have extended it a little bit. Throw a camera in the car with Vicky going to the airport that night or early that morning because I know she's going to sit in traffic and she's going to be answering emails and freaking out the whole time and blaming everybody. Not herself. Just blaming everybody else. Without a doubt. But we get to Bluestone Manor and we have quite the red carpet as people roll out. You get Melissa Marisol, Bose.

We didn't get a lot from. No, nothing from Bose. Heather, Angie Kay, Jessel, Aaron, Alex McCord, round two. Marisol, round two, Chanel, Ashley, Heather Dupro, Sutton, Carol, Camille, LB, Vicky, and Teresa arrive. I wrote everybody down out of respect.

Very good, right down. You know, it's funny, the Bose thing, if I didn't already know what's going on in next season of Beverly Hills, I would read into that so much. Same. They made mention of you. They showed you a couple of times.

You were clearly sitting at tables, but you didn't say anything interesting. Like, what's going on there? Are she going to come back with Beverly Hills? because I mean we obviously we see Liz and we know Liz isn't coming back to Rhode Island next year so it's like oh man maybe Bose is moving on and they just decided to chopper.

They do a whole thing with her and Keeley getting married in like in Africa so the whole cast is going to go and do that so yeah I don't know look it's just me it's probably not just me I'm going to bum a lot of people out it's Beverly Hills who cares who gives a shit what's going on with them I sure don't

you know those Callie Housewives shows can all kick rocks but we're not here to talk about it. I will not bum the vibe out by talking about that. There's too much fun stuff happening. We get, of course, the moment of the naming of Bluestone Manor where Carol and Ramona back and forth. Ramonar screams it out. Again, just an iconic line.

We get the scene of the fireplace. I do believe, just my guess, that that fireplace does, in fact, work. I would imagine we may have forgotten to open up the flu. That's what it sounded like to me. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. She didn't come in panicking. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't do that.

That doesn't work. So I would guess we just need to, you know, reach in. And sometimes, sometimes if it's cold, you have to light a newspaper, roll it up and stick it up the chimney to heat it up, get the smoke flowing in the right direction. Then you light the fire. It was probably one of those situations where that fireplace hasn't been used since Richard passed. So he knew what to do because it's not like they always had. people there working for them necessarily. And obviously they do now.

And they didn't really at the time of that trip. So that's kind of the thing that went through my mind. But I'm on the same page as you. Yeah, that's just stuff I get stuck on. But anywho, the next big thing is Rhode Island rolling up. Now, we are all acquainted. We've all watched the season. We all love these ladies.

They did a very good job season one. Nobody knows them here in this run. This is postseason pre-reunion from what I gathered from people talking because they were giving like reunion advice to some of the ladies. It seemed like they hadn't hash things out yet. So I do believe we're in that interim phase of post film pre reunion. But as they're walking in, I think it's hysterical to hear from the other housewives the same things that we were all saying.

They all look like Dolo. And that was the biggest sticking point with everybody. Weirdly enough, we didn't have a problem discerting everybody from each other. but most people are like, I can't tell who is who. And they all, I will say, yes, they look similar. So it is funny. But to hear Melissa say it and then be like, well, they all sound like they're from Jersey too. It's like, yes.

Yeah. Okay. So you guys get it. Even Melissa, who is from New Jersey, here's that. It's like, okay, cool. All right, we're not going entirely crazy. Everybody's been saying the same thing. But yeah, that was kind of funny too because we never really have a timeline for these sorts of things.

I think the two things that really popped up with the timeline was, one, Carol wasn't confirmed to be joining. Roney. So that was a funny scene for a little bit later when she's talking to Aaron. And two, Rhode Island hadn't aired yet. No one knew who these women were. They just kind of saw them. And obviously we'll talk about Dorinda at a second walking in there. But this was great for us. I mean, to show they hadn't gone to the reunion yet and to see where everybody is and see how all the feelings are still like raw and they still haven't hashed anything out. I thought Joe Ellen was going to get a lot more shit than she did and she got a little bit of shit.

But based on how the reunion went, she got so much more shit at the reunion. So things kind of flipped and turned as we went along and maybe it's a couple of weeks later they actually filled it but it's still so funny to see them in the state with no one knowing who they are but having an understanding like oh i don't know you you look like a housewife you must be from rhode island like people putting two and two together was very funny yeah it was i liked watching everyone get acquainted with them it was this is where i give them a lot of credit as a new cast because one like i said moment wasn't too big they did their thing despite being in this big stage, but at the same time, there was a level of respect walking in there, which I very much

appreciated walking up. You get Rosie talking to Luann, and she's like, Luan's talking to other people, and Rosie's continuing to say things to her just because she said, oh, my God, like, legitimately star struck her. Yeah. Rula, who you all know I do not care for, but her giving Vicky her flowers. I thought that was a cool moment. It's just the little things for me when they walk, you know, with Newcast specifically, like respect the space. You know what I mean? I respect to Bravo series. The fact that they did meant a lot. It's a lot different than what we usually say of people coming on shows.

And I think we kind of hold this with respect to shows that aren't Housewife-centric. But this is a lot different because you can tell, even Rule of talking to Vicky, it's like, I've been watching you for 20 years. I know exactly who you are. I've been seeing you a lot. And that was a very nice little tip of the hat right there. But it's not like what we usually say when a new Housewife pops up or a new cast member pops up. It's like, all right.

So act like you haven't watched this show. You're not involved. You watch the show. Okay, cool, but like form your own opinions. This is so much different. This is like showing respect to the greats, to the icons, to the legends, within your own industry and being nice to everybody. Like I was so happy to see that they were getting along, at least with like inside of their own families. Yeah, not with each other, but within the housewives realm.

Yes. The one thing you can count on is if Dorenda has screen time. Durinda's going to make the most of her screen. Oh, yeah. It's not always a good thing, but she will always do as much as she can. And she loves to rehash the iconic moments. I do believe that Derinda thinks on the hierarchy of Housewives, it's like at the tippy top, like Teresa, her,

and whoever else he'd put up there on that top pillar. I think that she thinks that she's at that level, which is weirdly one of the charming things about her, why she's kind of fun to watch because she's not there, but she wants to be there, and she will remind you so many times of why she should be there. You know, we get the double Giovanni dress,

which I very much appreciate. You get Luann walking in with it, you got Dorinda walking in with it, and watching it, just to jump ahead, watching her go over to the Rhode Island ladies. Another thing with Dorenda, she thinks Blue Stone Manor is the White House.

Like, this is how, And you do not walk into the matter and disrespect it. By the way, totally forgot that Carol and Ramona had that conversation. I thought this was like historical house, Blue Stone Manor. Yeah. No.

17, whatever. No, she named it that. And the way that she talks about, she's like, hold on. Listen,

ladies, this is Bluestone Manor. If you want to do this shit, you can take it outside. Okay. I did appreciate, let's not turn this into the sixth episode of Real Housewives of Rhode Island. I was like,

yeah, that was a very, funny one. It's just like such a funny comment. But I think Dorenda would do that with the Rhode Island girls obviously. I think she would also do it with Salt Lake City. I think if there was a Jersey blowup if Teresa and Melissa were fighting, she wouldn't go over and say that. No, she knows she is like you just said, she's much higher on the totem pole than these newbies that no one's ever met before. I can talk to them however I want. And it is funny because you obviously get that call back. And we even said that because we covered that season of Ultimate Girls trip where we were at, Bluestone Manor, like too

much power. Given Durinda way too much power. And that was in the back of my brain, too, going into this episode. Like, are we sure? Yeah. We talked about it. It's iconic. But do we want to do this? Do we trust that they're going to, like, not allow Durinda to be Dorinda at Bluestone Matter and tell people what she thinks to be involved in every single conversation? But making sure that everybody knows who lives here, she did it a couple of times and it was funny. That's enough. It was the perfect about. Because it was sprinkled it. It was funny. If we had followed her around all night, I think it would have gotten old quick, but we didn't.

It was just sprinkled in, which made it funnier because it's a callback at that point. It's like, oh, yeah, this is how she is when she's here. It's like this whole- We should have had one camera in the kitchen, though, because you know she's going back in the kitchen and talking to the caterers for sure. And I need to see how that went. What is this garbage? That's what you asked for. That's not worthy of Bluestone matter.

Yeah, I can't imagine that she's very nice to me. I don't know. I don't want to jump the conclusion. But let's talk Rhode Island for a sec. This was such a fun little spin-off in the midst of everything going on because they have not reunion yet. They are postseason. And they have a lot of shit to talk about. But at the same time, you have housewives of old who are trying to find out about the newbies. So we have this fun, never happens moment of other housewives questioning certain things that are simply tropes that you see on housewives a lot. They're asking about. Did you feel supported? Like, what happened this season? Who got the most shit?

Whatever. But you get to watch them. It's pretty much like when Andy puts out questions. And you get questions from random people. But this time it was only housewives. And Kyle's giving some advice. You know, you got Melissa giving some advice.

Everyone's kind of chiming in. But Rula. It had to be fucking Rula. Of course. They asked who got them, oh shit. It's like, ah, Rula definitely did.

I was put in a position. that was very conflicting. Okay, interesting way to put it, sure. Do you feel supported? No, Liz, you didn't allow us to. Yeah, you really did it. You got to stop throwing that at me. Time out.

Time out. Okay? Because then she says some shit where I'm like, this is what you did all season. When you all get to know me, I am genuine and I do wear my heart on my sleeve. Rula, allow me a moment, if you please.

You didn't allow anybody to support you at all. People that tried to support you, Joella. did she have ulterior motives perhaps was she doing what you had instructed her to do in finding more evidence and bringing it to you she sure did did she circulate the picture kind of but not really not really she didn't post them she didn't post them she did bring them to the group and blew them up probably but this this to me was just another reminder rule does belong in this cast I'm sorry and I'll say it in the midst of all this she does not belong in this cast I I understand just from enjoyability that she doesn't belong on the cast,

but for storyline and everything else, she's, she has to be on the cast. That's just kind of where we are right now. But for me anyway, because we've been hearing about it so much, especially in this, in this mini series,

if you want to call it that, the sisterhood thing, this was genuine. This was wonderful. This was a beautiful scene where you have people who have been on these shows for a very long time, genuinely interested in what happened in your new season.

They know nothing about you. They know nothing about your show. any sort of dynamics in the group. What may have happened if you've even done your reunion yet. And you have Portia, Kyle sitting down, Luann, even getting interested in on an interesting level where she doesn't, who died? That's worse. That's worse.

I've been there. Let me tell you a story. It's like, God damn it, Luann, you're great. But my takeaway from it all was like, oh, shit, you guys really meant it when you said sisterhood. You really meant it when you said this is hallowed grounds. that there's only 200 of us, 200 plus of us, that have ever gone and walked to these trails.

Let's get involved and I'm going to give you, I'm going to take you under my wing a little bit, give you a little bit of advice. And it wasn't pretentious. It wasn't in like a, I'm going to look down on you type of way. Like good luck if your show even takes off. Who knows?

Two, two. Instead, it was no, let me give you some genuine advice. Let's actually dig into what happened. And we'll see where you guys are out after the reunion. Like, it's just, it was really nice to see. It was something that was so genuine.

It kind of caught me off guard. And it was funny because, Again, like when we talk about storylines, obviously in the Bravo audience, storylines are a main talking point because that's what we're looking for. But in the midst of the seasons, like it does take on, it's a TV show, right? It's like you see these storylines and we talk about it like that. But this is like real life for these ladies. It was very funny to hear them talk about their real life in the framework of storylines.

Because when the cheating thing comes up, it's like, oh man, let me tell you about my storyline of my husband cheating. Oh, Lisa, you had your whole thing about, oh, yeah, let me tell you about my. It was like they were talking about it from a producing production standpoint, which I thought, obviously reading way too far into things, but I thought it was so funny from that perspective of like Lisa is talking about this awful moment in her life, this hot mic moment that we all remember, unless you don't watch Miami because you're a dumb dumb, go back and watch it now so it can come back on air, please. But that hot mic moment of her husband admitting that he's cheating on her,

which is devastating. We saw the aftermath. Lisa Hoxstein was a mess for like almost two full seasons. Not that, you know, she's kind of a mess always, but in a different capacity. And she sits there and discusses it

like we're talking about a sitcom to these other ladies who are then relating because like, oh, we have that on ours. That's Rula and her husband. Like it was just, it was fucking funny. But to your point,

the camaraderie of it all. was really nice. I think we kind of needed it because there is this air about Housewives over the past few seasons of cast themselves, as we've talked about with this show, kind of highlighting like, oh, we can have fun everybody. Like, you're allowed to have fun on these shows. This has highlighted that. This was kind of a nice moment of, yeah, there's some bad moments. Yeah, we butt heads at the end of the day. This is what it's all about.

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goal, Andy's goal was a little unclear when he goes and does that and make sure that two people actually have a conversation. I thought it was, oh, we got to get a good moment. I know things are hot on the trail right now between Lisa and Heather. Let's see. I know the fans are really going to want to see a little brawl between Melissa and Teresa. No, he actually went about it to try to say, you guys love each other. just fucking like take a deep breath everything's going to be okay remember all the fun you used to

have it's almost like you and i talking them like hey knock you can you can have some like you guys are going to butt heads but you don't always have to butt heads so i i think this kind of piece together with what andy was doing it was nice to see that because it does kind of show you like maybe that is where they're trying to go back to it feels like that and i know we were saying that obviously wishful thinking i think it was kind of a tongue-in-cheek thing for this entire season And where we've been saying, like, hopefully they're watching and hopefully they're like, oh, man, we could do this on our own cast. But watching Andy get involved, of course, it kind of goes by the wayside when Heather just goes, well, that fuck off. I was like, all right, well, this isn't working.

But the Teresa Melissa moment was nice. You know, Andy, Teresa, Melissa, we have, was it contrived? I don't care at all. It doesn't matter. Because this is all we needed. This is all I needed to get back and say, bring back Jersey. let's see what we got. I just needed,

even if it was the fakesest, most overproduced, which I don't think it was, but even if it was, it's like, this was the moment that I think all Jersey fans needed to feel comfortable investing in the show again.

Just have these two flat out say exactly what the problem is, exactly why they're sorry, and that they can move on. And most importantly, this was the very important cherry on top for me. let's not let this happen again. Do not let anybody convince us.

Otherwise, no one's going to tell me to not like you. No one's going to tell you to not like me. And we will be friends. Okay, cool. Fuck yeah. That doesn't mean you guys can't have your spats. It doesn't mean that things aren't going to fall apart a little bit. But the unbridgeable gap that became Jersey cannot happen again.

And I don't want it to be an all new cast because if you look at it, like there are some heavy hitters on that cast that I do miss on my screen. And this show has reminded me that I do like Teresa when she's on. She was great this season. So she was great. I mean, yeah, she did so much more even in like watching her friendship with Lisa Blossom.

And then the fact that she was right there next to Lisa, when Lisa and Heather were talking, huge, like absolutely massive for me. And I agree with you. You can't have Jersey just kind of sitting by the wayside for this long. You kind of have to figure things out with the cast that you actually have. And yeah,

they got rid of a couple of people. totally fine with the people that they got rid of. You can go listen to our our Jersey podcast from a couple of years ago and figure out who I'm talking about. But it was very important to move forward. And I agree with you. Like, yes, you can bury the hatchet now finally,

at least try to make it look like you're burying the hatchet so you can actually move forward. And that's going to be very important. And I know Dolores was there listening in on the conversation, very happy. She was very excited that the two of them were able to kind of see eye to I finally just move on, not talk about the past,

not dig back into the deep shit that they went through for a very long time and just kind of move forward and see what you guys have for your show. So I agree with you. I'm excited to see Jersey come back. I'm excited to see, honestly,

all of them come back. I mean, everything else is kind of hitting. I'm leaving Salt Lake City out there again, because the time frame by which we're doing this is so close to when they filmed the reunion, that there's still so many actual feelings involved and emotions that haven't been processed yet,

that it seems almost, unfair to put Heather and Lisa in the room together. Like I'm not even going to knock Heather for saying the shit that she said. I'm not going to knock Lisa for just kind of like turtling and walking away and saying that she wants to do nothing with Heather. There's just so many things that go into that. And it's so fresh that I don't even fucking care. It is what it is.

And we've got a new season right now, which looks vastly different than what Salt Lake looked like when we're watching ultimate girl's trip. So I don't care about that. The rest of them looks like they're doing a great job. And I'm so excited to watch each and every season that comes out. Yeah, same. Like this is really got me. Hills. Well, yeah, that goes without saying anything. We didn't

mention that. I'm pretty sure our audience understands that too. Yeah. But no, I don't want people to think that I'm looking forward to Beverly Hills because Kyle was good. Like it's still going to be a ship product. Yes, it will. Totally. But I will give credit where credit is due always. And Kyle was

delightful. I know I've used that word like a hundred times this episode. But like it's hard to say it anyone like any other way. She was. She was great. She was the Kyle that a lot of people fell in love with watching Beverly Hills. She was just enjoyable. She's that that quieter central figure that you kind of look to during the moments. And that was what she was when I was like the biggest Kyle fan was she was my barometer. She was somewhat normal amidst all of this chaos. And she was reasonable and didn't get too activated. And then we saw totally different Kyle like literally that year.

We started the podcast with Beverly Hills. And that was the season where I was like, whoa, she's kind of taking a turn. And then it's been spiral since. But it was not. It was nice to see her kind of get back to what made her great. And I thought she was great. She can carry that. I will not. I will not do that and say, maybe what I will say is simply keep it to Kyle.

If she's able to carry this into Beverly Hills, she, not the show, she might be more enjoyable this season. That's all I'm going to say about that. And that's unfortunately just the reality that we live in with Beverly Hills. Yes. We have to look at everybody individually.

we can enjoy if Kyle is how she was on Ultimate Girl's trip, we'll probably enjoy it because she has a good personality. Erica Jane will probably enjoy it because she was very nice last year. And she was a completely different person because she's finally gotten through a lot of the Tom shit. She's in a different place right now and enjoyable again. Then you go to the rest of the cast. It's like, okay, never mind, this show's so fucked up. It won't really matter.

Fucking overpowered right now. Yeah, it's just, I can't with that. And this is not a Beverly Hills podcast, so we'll move on very quickly from it. Yes, we are immediately done with that. Just needed to address it a little bit. But it was nice to see, again, just kind of this kumbaya moments all around. Portia Luann and Giselle are talking about doing something special for Vicki, which again, I know we're not talking about it, but I will because I'm going to say something disparaging about it.

Again, highlights problems with OC. Because we talked about this earlier on, even when Vicki was really pissing us off. the fact that every city we've gone to, they've done something to commemorate and honor the representative of the cast in that city. And Tamara gave that bullshit speech because she's butt hurt that she's not on the ultimate girl's trip. That is slimy.

So I'm glad that we are taking some time at Blue Stone Manor to prop Vicky up because she is. I don't think she needs to be on two shows and he could definitely convince me she doesn't need to be on OC anymore. But she's one of the OGs, OGs. Like she started Housewives. she deserves some of respect. So I'm glad that they set that aside.

We'll get to that very shortly. Meanwhile, the Rhode Island girls are still fighting. Still fighting. You are the antichrist, Joe Ellen. You want the antichrist. And God,

bring this show back tomorrow. Even like when Liz is going off, I'm like, God, Liz, why does you have to leave? I feel like there's so much. I know why you probably left. Like, I have an idea formulated.

It rhymes with FBI. Yeah. But like, come on. Just one more season. Give us one more. We got around this thing. There's more in there.

She can give so much more. When she was giving last season, she was because she is, ma. But she is, God, I'm so excited for that to come back. And I'm sure it'll be sooner than later. When they have a hot show, they pick up cameras pretty quickly. But anyway, that's where we get the Theresa and Melissa thing. We talked about that already. We get the LB, Heather and Andy thing.

We get Ms. Fager Park showing up. She by Shiree pops up. Cynthia, not as 50 cent. Just Cynthia Bailey shows up, which is fine. I do love 50 cent, but it's nice to see them. And then we get this Roney moment, which was interesting. My question to you, because we have a quite literal passing of the torch. It was actually a bust candle, like an old school like bust.

But here's my question. Would this moment have happened if Golden Life wasn't announced already. If those ladies of the original cast didn't know that they were coming back to TV in their own capacity, would Luana pass the torch to Aaron and Jessel? Who, by the way, didn't deserve the torch

passing from Luan, but that's a different story. Yeah, yeah, because I still, I think it would have happened regardless. I think it's a little bit more genuine in the sense of, you know, Bravo's Roney is now your show because I have another show. I think

either way, Luann still would have done it because it was a It was a moment in the show. It made a ton of sense, the 20th anniversary, all of these things. I think she still would have done it because she thinks in her minds, this is a really nice moment. I don't care if they appreciate it. I don't care if people think I'm telling the truth. It doesn't really matter. But because they have the golden life. Yeah, I think she genuinely means it because it was almost like a retirement speech from Luann, who we just talked to in episode two.

And she said, that's why I keep on doing this. I love this life. My life is a cabaret. and I'm not going to stop until I'm dead. And then four episodes later, you're sitting down with the new Roney cast. You're like, you know, I got to pass the torch. You know, it's my time to go. It's, it's time to hang up the cabaret shoes.

No, I know. But you know what she meant. She meant the whole life, not just the cabaret stuff. Also the filming and all the Bravo shows. So, no, I didn't believe her there. But the rest of it, it's like, okay, yeah, ceremonial passing of the torch or whatever. I don't really care. Again, like you said, it's Aaron and Jessel sitting there.

it's not like Haley somehow broke into that thing. And it's like, okay, yeah, now I'm in. We got Haley and Daisy. Haley and Daisy sitting there with Carol. And then that's the torch that we see. And it's like, holy shit. You guys didn't even know what you had. And now we're watching it.

And it is great. So thank you for that. Yeah, that would have been a different vibe if they, I get it. Jess Lennar and have been on the show longer. But I feel like to really commemorate the new Roney. It should have been Haley, Daisy and Carol. But also just the conversation, the way that it went was,

Aaron asking, and I think it was a little tongue in cheek because I think she knows the answer. Asking Luann if she even watched the show. She's like, did you watch our show? Yeah, I watched the first season. I don't know if she did. She may have seen bits and pieces here and there or maybe, you know, somebody told her what happened. But even that felt like a little bit of a dig. Like, yeah, I watched your first season.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what happened there. Luan might not even know that they recasted half of the cast at this point. She might be like, yeah, whatever. At this point, whatever. I watched the first season. I don't really care past that.

She might still think like Brin's on the show, honestly. I don't think she keeps up with the news. But, I mean, it was. It was a nice ceremonial moment. And obviously, Andy's speech was great. But that kind of brings things to a close. You get Heather Dubro,

who all she offered was like Jim Halpert from the office, like talking to the camera multiple times. She's like, because she's obsessed with espresso martini. She has an espresso martini problem. And she was right. She's like, I had to go back because I'm like, wait, who the fuck just said that they're not going to sleep tonight? That's kind of weird.

And then I see it's Heather reaching for an espresso martina. Like, no, it actually tracks. That makes a ton of sense. So yeah, that's what you get from Heather, which, you know, she's just a pleasure to have on camera no matter what she's doing in any capacity. But the speech to Vicki was very nice. She handled it a lot better than I thought she would. She had even callbacks to the season that we're currently in with Ultimate Girl's Trip talking about Luann singing, which was funny. everybody's just kind of on the same page.

Like, yeah, I know it's the last night. You guys are done. You get to go back to your respective lives at this point. But it's still genuinely funny because it is nice to see that they all kind of went from, I'm going to kill Luann if she keeps singing to I can now make a joke at the end. Like that's kind of what you want to see the progression. A little full circle in this speech. You love to see it.

We get a fireworks send off. You get Dorinda. They just can't help herself to make it about her. Make it nice on three. One, two, three. And five people go make it nice. Yeah. So it was actually just

Dereinda like throwing her voice to like other people. Yeah. Yeah. Cut that and post. Yeah. But I have a couple of questions before we get to questions. One, this one's more just kind of fun.

Why do we not have DJ Meredith Marks for that party? Oh, that's a good question. She was on tour. She was on tour. Okay. So she may have had prior commitments. uh but would have loved i could also see her like i'm not going to that yeah i i mean she basically lives in new york at this point i mean that's the claim that people have been talking about for

years i don't know it would have made sense for her to drop in here and i don't think it's anything like as sadistic as well we needed to see how lisa was going to handle her cast coming after her because like we didn't really see a lot of that was mostly just lisa and heather for the most part at least at this party like an easy plug and play to have her dj it did yeah and i think she's iconic in her own right. So I'm sure she was invited and probably just couldn't go for whatever. To go. Do you have a bathtub?

Can't make it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. My last question. Then we'll get to your questions, you beautiful people, is bear with me here, all right, hypothetically. We've talked for years, almost since the inception of Brock Bros. About the idea of, we throw a lot of sports ideas out there. does this cast show and prove that we could potentially trade housewives to other franchises

and it would be a successful formula. You're basing this solely, not I guess not solely, but obviously, you know, they get along well enough, but you are basing it mostly on Lisa's comment to Andy about how she realized that she would thrive in a different city. Are you not? That definitely weighs into my decision, but it also has to. to do with everybody else. Just,

honestly, yes, that was like what started the wheels turning. But it's more so this idea of back when Lisa was talking about how much fun she had

in like episode three or four and comparing it to, and then Teresa comparing it to the Jersey cast. Everyone was like, oh my God, this is so much more fun than my cast. Yeah. Just saying like,

try, like we try everything else. Why not? I know. And like, Like for the most part, yeah, you can probably find a couple. But for the most part, a lot of the housewives, they're entrepreneurs at this point. They can do whatever they want with their businesses and take it wherever they want.

Or they're just so rich that it doesn't really matter where they live. So yeah, I mean, I would totally be on board. There's part of me that thinks they may have left that comment in there from Lisa to like kind of just weigh their options. I guess we could definitely do that. Maybe not like openly trade. Yeah, it's not like Andy Cohen's going to, you know, retire and then just kind of go behind the scenes and just be like a general manager and just start trading people in and out but i do think it may leave the door a little open especially after kind

of the reception not only from the cast and the casts but also from the public that maybe it's like okay yeah you know what cynthia is doing a great job in atlanta but she's thriving here and thriving there she seems to be friends with some of the women on beverly hills let's throw her out there and see how it goes i mean half of the housewives don't actually live in the cities that they're representing at this point like they're all over the place people that. Yeah, I know. Like, they're all over the places it is. So yeah, you could easily do it. And I don't think it would be that big of a deal in a negative sense. I think it would be a massive deal in a positive sense, though. Like, could you imagine if they do that and they announce it, they don't even

announce it because Bravo's terrible at marketing? They just drop a trailer and all of a sudden you've got Lisa Barlow in New York. It's like, holy shit. That's huge. I mean, Salt Lake's going to suck. Like a big problem that we have with new shows and new cast is that people don't like that they don't know who they are. If you have a housewife that you know and love, get inserted into another cast of housewives that you know and love rather than have the awkward intro to a new person, will they fit? Are they good for TV?

You already know that they are. So you just take somebody that's already beloved, put them somewhere else, say that they moved to Atlanta, you know, they had to move there for business, which doesn't have to be true. I think that it works. I think that if we're going to try all of the other wacky shit that we've tried, to make shows better that aren't doing well, there's no reason you shouldn't try that.

Yeah, I agree with you. Let's see what everybody else has to say. First one up here from Meg's Valentine, I want to ask something, R.E. Heather, but I'm just so sick of her and her shrieking. That's fair. Fair enough. That's fair.

That's a good one. Blacksmith Trev, what does it say when OC started it all? And there's only two people to represent. that says a lot. It's exactly what you're implying. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's, yeah, exactly.

There's nothing even more to add there, honestly. We kind of started this one, but from J-Bay, the Hut 713, which housewives from other shows would you have liked to have seen at the finale party? Let's do like one or two each and just kind of throw a couple in there. Okay. I would have liked to have seen every time we do this, I like my mind. completely blanks and that to like go through the cities. I wouldn't have minded a Marge Jr.

citing. I like Marge. It's probably too soon. Like we already know at this point that Marge isn't asked back. Yeah. So I imagine like there's ties that are severed. Because obviously you go to the Roney people and it's like yeah, Bethany could have been there but like those ties are severed.

Ramona. Did you see a video she made implying that she's going to be on golden line? She might make I actually holding up dazzled app Yeah I think she's going to cameo for that one Yeah DJ Ameris marks I think would have been the best one

That's a really good one yeah And we got honestly we got a ton of Atlanta people Candy obviously would have been great Oh yeah I throw Denise Richards in there I throw Kim Richards in there honestly I think she could do as a win Just throw her out there and like let her have some fun

And see some old faces That's probably it though I think they kind of hit on everybody else. There wasn't any like gaping holes in terms of like cast that weren't represented, except for O.C. Of course. The Kiki could have seen more Kiki. If she was in Bluestone Manor,

I always love her on screen. I think she's great. But for the most part, it was we had most of the people that I wanted to see. I can't, no one comes to mind where I'm like, oh, how was she not there other than DJ Meredith Marks and simply because we had a DJ

at that party to just. I know. Yeah. That's a good point. from Brandy Young how messy did you guys think that the Rhode Island girls were and do you think it will be paused

absolutely not talking about they were stellar they were messy in the best way they were respectfully messy like they gave everyone their caduz and then they went to business that was top tier house wifery in my opinion exactly

absolutely Diana Jean H does the Lewand villain to hero arc feel a little scripted perhaps, but you know, for a show like this, we wanted to get that out of the way pretty quickly. So, yeah, no, no issues here.

Just wanted to put that one to bed so we could have fun. Yeah, no, absolutely. From Elight 1, seems like a missed opportunity not making multiple episodes with all this power. I agree. I think this should have been a two-parter and you should have gone to around a nice, even 10 episodes.

It doesn't make any sense to just end it at nine. And also to kind of cram everything going on, because I'm sure there's a lot more conversations with a lot of people at this party. It doesn't make sense to not just draw it out. I mean, you could have just made the seven and a half hour drive, half the episode, did half an episode of Bluestone Manor, and then did a full episode of Blue Stone Manor next week.

So I don't really get that one. I have to imagine that the cost of this was astronomical. I'm sure. I'm sure that their budget was stretched. They had to fly, all of the housewives there, put them up. Like all of the, you have all the heavy hitters on one. cast of a almost full season. So they're getting paid my full salary.

I would, I would simply guess that the price was fucking outrageous. So that they're like, we can do nine would be my guess. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that one. And we'll end on this one.

Oh, yeah, this is actually a good point. Robert Taylor, writer of stuff. Did you clock the exact second that Heather realized she had lost control of the narrative? Yeah,

it came right after she said fuck off. and also right when she realized that Teresa was going to bad for Lisa and she had nothing on Teresa. You can't Heather cannot stand toe to toe with Teresa. It's not going to work in any way, shape, or form for Heather. So yeah, you can see that moment on her face because like we said earlier, Andy went over there. I thought it was going to be messy and he was just trying to get them to make up. I think that Heather kind of misjudged that one. She tried to stand her grounds.

And then once she realized that she did not have the number, she didn't actually have the narrative in her control, she was done. and you can see it. Like basically what Robert just said, you can see it on her face. Yeah, her jaw just kind of dropped that she stood there silently. And yeah,

I think that Teresa being a part of it had a big, big role in that because I do think she respects Teresa a lot. It was kind of like, oh, no, Teresa doesn't like me. I need to shut up

and maybe go into this season of Salt Lake with a different attitude and put whatever this nonsense is to bed that I've been trying to do for the past three seasons because it is not working. And I went from being, one of the most liked housewives on Salt Lake to one of the most hated in two years.

So yeah. Yep. It didn't take long. Nope. But, you know, I really have no notes, Bravo. This was very well done. It was very enjoyable. We got to see a lot of faces.

We got to have a lot of iconic moments. And I think that if it wasn't the intentional goal, I do think there's at least a sliver of, oh, we can have fun on our shows. Let's get back to having some fun. And I think that that's the biggest win for everybody. I agree. Couldn't agree more. But that's all I got.

I'm bummed. I'm bummed. This is it. That's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. That's our show. Rob, brozer out of here.

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