Bros & Shows - A DRAGGING Dragon Finale... (House of The Dragon Finale Full Recap)

Episode Date: August 7, 2024

What doth it do brethren? We are back in Westeros with a disappointing finale to say the least. While this wasn't necessarily a bad episode, the fact that they ended the season with more exposition and cliff hangers without an epic battle is unforgivable. We watched an entire lackluster second half of the season in hopes that the finale would bring us what we so craved only to watch 70 minutes of more plot. But don't worry, we have to wait TWO MORE YEARS for the third installment... Had this been episode 6? We wouldn't have so many issues. But the fact that we're watching Reina search for Sheepstealer for 15 separate scenes in the finale is absurd. Aemond throws a tantrum and burns Sharp Point to the ground. Meanwhile... All the pieces are set for the world to go to war. Daemon pledges fealty to Rhaenyra after finally finishing his vision quest in Harrenhall. Jace struggles with being one of multiple bastard dragon riders and questions his claim to the throne. Corlys attempts to build relationships with his remaining bastard sons Addam and Allyn. Larys gets Aegon out of dodge and Alicent makes one final play in an attempt to avoid bloodshed by going to visit Rhaenyra at Dragonstone... Again, this was an insult to Dragon fans worldwide to end the season like this. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The show from the bros for everyone. For everyone. Whomever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Sir Stealington, joined as always by the one and only, Sir Gutenberg. What's up, Sir Gutenberg? Oh, not a whole lot. We got to wait two more years. This is our little finale for House of the Dragon, and we have confirmed it will not be out until 2026.

Wait, that was confirmed? When was that confirmed? Oh, dude, you got to get on Dragon Twitter. no what do you mean you can't have this fucking season and then wait two more years oh i'm gonna be a hot potato now i am not a happy camper i didn't know that so they haven't roll this shit out in two more years okay let me catch you up on on the things so they haven't started filming up they're not they're not going to start filming until 2025 uh early 2025 at least and they don't expect it to come out until 2026 which i would venture probably

another summer. 2027. So one's going to actually come out. That's my guess now. No, it's going to get pushed. Something's going to happen. I still think at some point, 2026.

What do you mean? I just don't understand what happened because if you've still got the same studio and a lot of people are saying that there wasn't a lot going on budget-wise, they were trying to save some for this season so that they can go all out for season three. Why are you not filming already, you know? Writer strike, maybe. Did that push production? maybe i i've i've no fucking idea but i get it i understand it that this is not that long

of a story and they're stretching it to four seasons to make sure that they can make as much money as possible and you've got other dragon house or game of thrones types of shows and stuff coming out because seven total shows have been confirmed four of which are animated which i actually like three of them are going to be actual shows and you've got one coming out next year so they're feeling like you can overlap these things but yeah two years until we get this back that's not okay i'm i'm much less happy with this finale than than i already was and i already wasn't thrilled with the last half of this season yeah that pisses me off they did not do nearly enough this season if they're going to do another two year hiatus we didn't have any massive episodes with

we had one we had one and that was the battle at rook's rest that was literally it that's fucking deplorable i'm pissed now i wasn't pissed now i'm pissed now i'm pissed that makes no sense you got to give us more than a filler season how are you going to give a we waited two years for a filler season episode eight by the way the season finale should have been episode five that should have been like episode five so six seven i would argue i would argue if you were going to do this it should have been episode seven it should have been rinera standing there with the dragons and you find out that there's other dragon riders and then you move into season three and then this episode should have been the first episode of season three i feel that would have

been better Yeah, that would have been better. And then I would have been pissed, but I would have been like, all right, we get the teaser because that's what last week was. Last week before the finale was that. You get the three dragons at Dragonstone. You get Vagar flying off because Amon scared. And then end the season. Would I be pissed?

Yes. Would I be geared up for season three? Yes. Instead, we have a fucking buildup episode followed by the biggest blue balls episode ever where it's like, here's all the pieces. Here's all the key players. Everyone's got their shit in order now. let's go to war in two more years. Fuck you, everybody.

We don't care. We're in this to make money, baby. That's stupid. And that's what I said. A little bit more. Yes. Daddy. Okay.

All right. Let me piss you off a little bit more. So the scene at the end of this where, hurt me, daddy. The scene at the end of this when the gray beards, the Starks are walking down and they go through the twins. Cregan Stark was actually supposed to be leading. them he they they filmed cregan stark leading them but they edited it so that they could pull him

out of it why i don't know that's fucking who knows he wasn't supposed to be there according to the books he's not supposed to come down for a little while anyway stop bringing up the books we're not in the books but yeah they did film it with him leading the graybeards across the twins and they pulled him to just look yeah i don't understand their tactics and this is what i said in our last episode where it's like, I feel like they think because it's Game of Thrones, because they know that people are going to watch, they do shit like this where it's like, oh, we're just building up the store. We had to get all these pieces in order to make sure that season three was great.

You could have whacked about 30% of the season that we watched. There's so many filler moments, so many filler storylines that don't fucking matter. And I get it. Every time we talk about this, you say it. Every time it's a short story. They got to get in as much as they can over four seasons. Fine. I get it. It's a business at the end of the day, but you cannot fall on the same sort every time and say, oh, it's Game of Thrones.

So people are going to wait and watch because the build-ups here and you know they're going to buy into it eventually, no matter how much we piss them off and fuck with their souls. We're going to keep doing it time and time again. That makes me mad. This is not how this season was supposed to go. This is not how I was supposed to end this season. This is not how I was supposed to watch this season. I was so excited after the first four episodes. And now I'm a grumpy little gust. Okay. That's what I am now. This is bullshit.

Why don't you start us off here at Grumpy Gus? Let's get into the chat. We're in the free fucking cities with Thailand fucking Lannister asking for Esos to take the barricade down, which won't happen until next fucking season anyway. So who cares? What are we doing here? I'm kidding. Let's do this right.

We get to Esos. And I actually liked this. This was funny because we've seen Thailand get, he's been cucked all season. He got cucked. He got cucked up the council. He got cucked by a child. Although he ended up winning that one, let's be honest. Yeah. We know what happened.

But it's just funny because he's like, he doesn't want to be there anyway. And you can tell he didn't like this entire mission that he was sent on to get the triarchy to enter the war and take down the barricade to allow shipping to come back into King's Landing. So he's already pissed off. And he's trying to negotiate with them. I thought it was a ballsy-ass move to when they offer. All right, yeah, we will do this if you give us the stepstones. I don't think he has the authority to sign off on that. I think that's a raven.

That needs to be a raven. Yeah, that would have to be a raven. And given what Amon just did last week, I'm sure he's going to say yes, no matter what, because he doesn't care. I don't know why. Yes, obviously trade is going to be interrupted. You're going to have to work out some other things. But at the end of the day, stepstones are pretty far from Kings Landing from Westrose in general. So, you know, like let's just let trade go through and just tax it, whatever.

Also, when they start to be sketchy, you take your gigantic dragon down there and you burn them all to death and you take the stepstones back. Nothing's set in stone in this world. We know that. In West Rose, everything's up for grabs all the time. So just go take it from them and be like, ha, got you. They're pirates. They steal shit anyway. Steal it back from them.

I didn't understand that. But we get to meet Admiral Lohar, who I like. I like Admiral Lohar. Yeah, she's cool. And I saw somebody say close enough, welcome back. you are a gray joy because that's the same vibes yeah yeah that's a good point and she drops the line like you know i'm not going to sail with anybody they can't best me and he's like best me and what and i just wrote down what a cuck well you know you got to beat her up you got to prove

that you're worthy in a fight i think he he was pleasantly surprised that it was just a mud fight but i took it as straight up duel like oh you thought dual to the death yeah tool to the death you kill me you can take over my my rank my position oh i didn't get that i just just thought the whole thing every the way that they talk to thailand is like degrading the way that they make him sing in front of it it's all degrading and it made me uncomfortable but i liked it because he's been getting cucked all season so why not just you know end with tailand anytime we get to pick on a lanister let's be honest we have to take advantage of that because we know what they it's always going to be fun now i again i we're this is the theme of the episode i'm not

super excited about the fact that you're going to introduce a new character right now in the finale like why i don't know why do this last episode and then have the and then step in and be like here's them sailing because he bested her like all right whatever did they run out of money did they panic like what the fuck happened i don't know we don't need they're just they're just stretching it out we can speculate later but you get a quick cut to amand and vagar and we find out after the fact did you know what that city was at the point at that point i didn't either sharp point is and it's burning and he's sitting atop vagar like overlooking the scene and i immediately thought and we get confirmation of that like okay he got pissed off because he got punked by ranara

so he went to take it out on somebody and that's him but it also why i like this scene it shows you it's it's a foreshadowing of what's to come in the future this is what dragons are truly capable of it takes one guy on one big ass dragon to take down an entire city or town or whatever they're going to call sharp point and i think that was the overlying message was one he's a vindictive child when it comes down to it he still is going to act on emotion if he feels like he's getting bitched out because he doesn't want to be that guy he wants to be the toughest dude in westrose which you got to kill the best to be the best and damon's still out there so you're still not that guy pal but it's his way of showing on the strongest look i just burned down this whole

village with nobody to defend it by the way and everyone's dead because I'm a big tough guy. Yeah, it was just a temper tantrum and just a flex of power, which you just saw that you don't have the power anymore. So you're going to go get it back from the small folk. He's the kid with a magnifying glass burning an an hill is what he's doing. Oh, yeah. But the biggest thing, honestly, is to show you this is what's going to happen.

This is a very small sample size of what dragons are going to do and how bad this is going to get. It takes one, one versus an entire village and the dragon wins every time. So what's he going to do to an army, so on and so forth? But we move on and you get Agon in bed. And we called this, what, the minute that Agon was proven to not be dead, what Lars was trying to do. And he goes in there, he goes, we got to leave because Reneera's got three new riders for dragons.

That is confirmed. Amon fled because he was scared. And we need to get you into a safe place because Amon's going to kill you. And I love the line from Agon. It's like, oh, Rennara got three dragon riders. And he's like, yeah, he's like, then what the fuck was the point? why did we do any of this shit? And that's so fucking funny because it's true.

Once you have the power of dragons, once you have, you got seven, seven dragons, six under her command and one of her own. And that's not even including, oh God, and we get to talk about the fucking sheepstealer disaster

of this fucking episode, which is going to drive me crazy. We haven't met cannibal yet, so we don't know where he's at or she's at. I don't know if we're ever going to be cannibal. I don't think we're ever going to be cannibal. Cannibal's got to come in. You cannot have a name like cannibal,

dragon and not bring cannibal into the fold that makes no sense yeah not that the show makes sense right now so maybe not that would be a big misstep cannibal needs to come in and cannibal honestly send cannibal to team green that's what i think i think yeah yeah you got to balance it at the end of the day yeah because at this point agon's right what's the point if you go in with seven dragons you win every time every time but good point no it is just really funny because dory this conversation you just have Laris trying to build it out. Like, dude, we need to get you the fuck out of here. Aman's going to come back.

He's going to kill you. You're the only thing that stands between him and the throne, and he's pissed off. He's going to come right in here and murder you. So we need to get the hell out of here. And Agaad's like, did they tell you what happened to my dick? They said it was like a sausage on a fire. I can't even use my dick anymore. I got no dick, man.

I got no dick. And Laris is like, there's time for that later. But we need to get you over to Esos. the fuck am I going to do over at Esos? What do you do in SS? Like, I'm the king. Can I just go sit on my throne and just yell at people? No, Avan's going to come in and kill you.

Okay. I don't have a dick anymore, man. Get back to the dick of it all because I don't have a dick anymore, pal. All right, we're going to figure this all out. Then we'll come back after everybody's nice and tired and there's a couple of dead dragons. And they're going to accept you as the welcome back Agon. Agan, the peacemaker. Did you hear what he said at the end of it?

The rebuilder. The Rebuilder. But did you hear what Aegon said? Agon, the, oh, I didn't write it down. So no. The realms, the light. The realms delight, yes. Okay, thank you.

So that was, that was Reneira when she was a teenager. She would go to all these different castles, and they all called her Reneera, the realms to light. That's what he wants. So it's important because, yes, he never wanted to be king, and Allison forced him to be king, and, you know, she changes all of that by the end of this episode. But she never, or he never wanted to be king, but he was jealous of Reneira. He was jealous that Reneer was his father's favorite. And you can see that in this.

So I guess that's somewhat full circle. We'll go there. I like, I don't mind that. And that's, that's what bothers me honestly about this episode overall. Had this been season three episode one or season two episode six and then they had one more big finale, this is a decent exposition episode. Like you get a lot of pieces that you needed for this puzzle and for this storyline. So they didn't do a bad job of presenting the info and moving storylines along, but you cannot end this season on it. So that's, it's this hard to balance out where it's like I gained a lot from this episode as far as the storyline goes and like themes and motifs and all of that good stuff. But you just, you just can't end it like that. But I got to stop doing that. We get it.

I know, I know, laura, let's know, look, I sent all my money to an offshore bank account in bravos so we can go over there and live a pretty good life and it will come back as you said and have a new name and everyone will rejoice because yay agon's back to save the day it's not a bad plan and it probably has some merit i know what's going to happen after it's laid out in the end of the episode and we're going to jump around a little bit because i want to get this point in now when alison goes to ranira are you know what no we'll wait okay i'll wait i'll wait but we move forward and we get Raina running around the hills. What's Raina doing?

What's Raina up to? She's running around the goddamn hills. She's getting dirty as shit. She's super goddamn thirsty. We don't know why. We have no reason to know why she is so parched that she needs to dive head first into a babbling brook and quench her thirst. We don't know.

We know that she's running her out looking for sheep stealers, but yeah. Fucking, who cares? Why am I watching 16 scenes of Raina running? Oh, flashback. It's like Lord of the Rings when it's. I'm like, oh, they're walking, they're still walking, they're still fucking walking. Get to Mount Doom and throw that bitch in the fucking lava. Why am I watching her walk around for sheep stealer?

My original thought, at least for this episode of us talking, was to interrupt you every 15 minutes and say, and Rayne is still running around the Riverlands. She's somewhere out there. No, I'm not going to do that. The payoff, I feel like they thought that the payoff at the end of the episode was going to be this big thing. dude we're all so tired of her running around just get to it just let her claim the dragon or not and you don't even show us if she claims the dragon she could get burnt up the first episode of season three and two years it's just i don't i don't get it like give us the payoff or don't

her seeing a dragon like this is not and this is i know a lot of people are like you guys want game of thrones you want game of thrones it is game of thrones it's the same fucking universe it's the same they film it the exact same way they have all the same conversations So, yes, it is still Game of Thrones. Having the payoff of a dragon, seeing a dragon, is not going to do anything for me. We know that there are dragons there. There's a lot of dragons. Seeing Tessarian at the end of the episode's cool as fuck.

But seeing Sheepstealer watching Raina run around for four episodes, finding out that there's a dragon isn't a payoff. You need to do the full payoff. You need to show her bond with the dragon or get burnt up. If she gets burned up, I'm in on that. She runs all the way through this. she gets burnt the fuck to a crisp at the end of the episode well that's crazy didn't see that coming now we're talking about that her inner like an encounter with a dragon does nothing for me the show is the fucking house of dragons and there's 15 dragons out there i don't care to see another one

i want to see if she bonds with it or gets burn up that's all we want it so they they fell flat on that one and that's the other thing is we knew eventually there's no suspense to the matter we know eventually she's going to find sheepstealer somewhere. We're not, it's not this big buildup, like, oh, is she going to catch up to the dragon? We know she's going to catch up to the dragon. The only way that this redeems itself in any way, shape, or form, and it's not fully redeemable. If you get a semblance of it back is if season three literally starts out with the first scene and it's Raina standing there and she gets fucking burnt to a crisp. Yeah.

And then some random peasant walking by goes, oh, God. and that's the person that bonds a sheepstealer. That would be fucking funny. Yeah. That would be funny and that would be cool. Because look, again, the best part about Game of Thrones, aside from season eight, is that there's no plot armor. There's no way to like go through all of this and you know that this person's going to live. Those are the best parts of Game of Thrones.

You don't know what's going to happen again until season eight because you just assume that everybody's going to live because they let everybody live. Why not? But no. Now we need to see original Game of Thrones. We need to see that there's no plot armor. Let Rayna die. Let Raina get blasted by this dragon, and we see what happened to her. She's upset that she doesn't have a dragon.

She failed before. Let her fail again. In the midst of all these bastards claiming dragons, let somebody who actually has true Targaryen blood die. And then we start to question things a little bit more. That would make more sense to me. I agree with that 100%. But we get our first interaction of Jace with the rest of the bastards. And you get Ulf and Hugh Hammer in the same.

same room and the dichotomy of Ulf with Hugh is very funny to me because you've got Hugh who is a little bit more royal adjacent where he knows how to handle himself knows how to present himself on the flip side Ulf has been drinking for free in a tavern using the Targaryan name for the past decade or more yeah so he's just in there with his feet kicked up on the fucking like war room table hanging out boozing having a good time I'm a fucking Dragon Rider baby nobody can touch me what's up everybody what you're the fucking prince you think i give a fuck about you being a prince dude i'm the same as you buddy we're both bastards give me a hug look at that hair you got dark hair i knew you had dark hair ha ha up top no what do you mean that's

that's a good way to do the scene that's a good way to do the scene now i i take away from all the old scenes i don't trust elf because i feel like if somebody pays him he's he's going to be like the first dragon mercenary where he has a dragon and somebody's going to pay him a ton of money. Hey, why don't you go do this for me? Okay, he has no allegiance is. He's been claiming that he's a Targaryen. He didn't know it.

Now he thinks that he is. And he feels like he can do whatever the hell he wants. So, yeah, I feel like somebody's going to be able to pay him off and be a mercenary. I like that. But I think that, I don't know. I'm very curious about Ulf the Dragon Rider when he actually gets into battle because he's not that kind of person. I don't think he's going to farewell in a fucking. fight, especially seeing what a dragon can actually do.

Like, he's got false confidence, too, because he flew over King's Landing and taunted Vagar and got away. So he thinks that he's untouchable. And I think that he's in for a rude awakening. I would honestly love to see Ulf get torched and have somebody else step in on his dragon. I think that would be funny. I also actually really like the idea of having a dragon for hire.

If he turns into a tougher dude and, like, figures out his shit a little bit, then he's that guy. I can fuck with that, too. That would be really interesting. If you have this just third party wandering about, you get like an Aragon of, you know, well, I guess before that he was, what, Strider? Yep.

Before he was Aragon. If you get that, okay, cool. I'll fuck with that or Aragorn, by bad. You got to get my lore right. Sorry, I'll leave you. Your Lord of Rings. My lore of the rings don't want to upset anybody out there. But, yeah, I like that.

And, you know, again, we're here talking about it. And there's a lot of good premises set up by this episode to get glossed over by the disappointment of it. But that would be a very interesting pivot from this. Tim's new scrambled egg loaded croissant. Or is it croissant? No matter how you say it, start your day with freshly cracked scrambled eggs loaded on a buttery, flaky croissant. Try it with maple brown butter today at Tim's at participating restaurants in Canada for limited time. Summer's here, and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats.

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just said you don't know what the hell olf is going to do he could just turncoat he could do this or that or whatever for money because he's never done it before he wasn't raised that way but jace is still the heir to the throne below his mother if you're going to be fucking king someday buddy why don't you just take a beat like yeah teach him some respect but don't get that pissed off about it you don't have to go brooding about it you don't have to go mewing at your fucking books later and have your wife come in and say hey what's going on here i know you're upset you don't have to be that upset about it it you can just say hey fuck off i'm the prince do what i say so i think for me at least what i

get from that and his response and reaction to it all is because other bastards can ride dragons and might have the same blood as him it calls into question it calls into question his right to the throne in his own mind i don't think that's in question in raneer's mind i think in his own mind he's now concerned because he's like oh shit if any bastard can ride a dragon with targaryen blood I actually that important. He's having this self-dilemma where it's like, what, what am I? Who are you? Who am I? I don't know. I got to work through this and figure out if I really am. Yeah, I don't think the Jace is long for this world anyway. I think he's a good, good character to kill. Yeah, I think he's an easy character to kill too, just because we see what's happening. He gets passed over time and time and time again. He also has a little bit of false confidence because he was able to fly to the twins and convince the phrase to let the Northman march down there. So what's he going to do again? Radira continues to leave him out.

And we see a little bit later, she asks Adam to go riding with her, not Jace, leave Jace there. He gets upset about that. So I think she's going to force his hand once again to go do something stupid. He's going to show up and go do something stupid and probably get killed. I agree. I agree. I think that's an easy one. And that's, you know, what I'm hoping, though.

And as you said, you know, people would say, you guys just want Game of Thrones. Yeah, we fucking do. We've waited a long time for this. So we want that same kind of shot. in awe where it's like oh my god i can't if they killed jace that would be fun yeah somewhat i need an earth-shattering shake everybody up death where it's like oh my god they killed rinera who would have seen that coming what what the fuck are they going to do now is damon going to step up like that's the kind of death that we're looking for that we used to get and ever since season

eight we really haven't gotten that payoff i mean last year with uh jace or sorry um Luke getting killed. That was a good one. That was a good one, yeah. But we didn't have any of those this season. Not one, because we knew that Rainey's flying in the battle. We knew she was going to get whacked. That was very obvious.

So there really wasn't. So that's, it's just a bummer. But we move on. We get Renera with Corliss, and they're talking about the new riders. And Adam of Hull, and he's like, you know, I had little to do with him. To my regret. Now Corliss is feeling a little bit sentimental because he, He's lost everybody else in his family.

I do agree with Alan of Hull later. I'm like, that's a good read, sir, because, yeah, what? Now that you lost everybody, you want to take care of us? I was like, go fuck yourself, buddy. And it's interesting that the younger brother is for it, the older brother who was bearing the brunt of all of it. It's like, no, fuck you, buddy. I got to this point on my own.

I don't need you now. But Corliss being the hand of the queen makes a whole lot of sense. And he is, it's showing the counterpart that Ranira needs in that moment. moment that's not as emotional as like say a damon's going to be about it we're close like look it's time it's time to strike you've got dragons you've got the upper hand we need to get out there and do this damn thing but he's also careful in saying you know because she's like look yeah we got a ton of dragons she's still under the idea that because we got the dragons we can stalemate this war and win without going to battle we can cold war it they're going to call it off because they know

they can't win he reminds her there's one more dragon in play here at least. You know, cannibal's still out there somewhere. If he does join or not, we can't speculate on that. But there is at least one more dream fire under Helena's tutelage. And Helena obviously doesn't ride. She doesn't want to ride. I don't want to kill anybody. But that is still a dragon in their corn. So Corlis, pointing out the obvious. Now, my question to you, and we're jumping the gun a little bit. Now, I got to say that one too, because I want to dive further into that. So let's just keep on trucking. I did like that he renamed the boat the queen who never was you know a little homage there that's very nice i mean he didn't

really stick around the whole lot he was at the sea the entire time he didn't stick around for his life a whole lot they loved each other but he definitely neglected his wife so now that she's dead he's like oh i'm gonna i'm gonna pay some homage over here yeah now they were so lovely don't do that don't disparage their marriage they understood but they both were warriors it was a warrior's life they went there separate ways when they had to but they were always rock solid down the stepstones you do you you don't do that or drift mark whatever just the stepstones were the problem he was at the stepstones were yeah drift mark yeah i fixed it all right i fixed it the fact that i've remembered as much as i have this season is impressive you got to give me something

there because i don't remember shit but somebody actually tagged this in twitter with a uh it was a picture and it was a diagram of the dragons i know i appreciate that this could help shooter you're wrong people still think that you're me and i'm you yeah like on that on that yeah like on that yeah Yeah, a lot of people get us confused still to this day, which is funny. But you got to watch the YouTube. Yeah, watch the YouTube, man. If you're watching it, what's up? Yeah.

Hey, yeah. You? Anyway. Hey, you. Yeah, I'm talking to you. If you think I'm talking to you, you're like, oh, me? Yeah, you. I'm talking to you right now.

I'm talking to you. Anyway, Corliss reminds Renira, hey, by the way, there's another player that we need to check in with. Flash over to Heron Hall, our favorite place. ago, the most lively place in all of Westrose, a lot of shit's happening here. Let's get back to motherfucking Heron Hall. I don't even like saying it anymore, but we get to Heron Hall and we get to at least see that the army's there, thank God. And Alfred Broome, that sniveling little worm shows up, this dickhead.

I've never liked Alfred Broome. I just, we just learned his name like last week. Yep. And I wish I forgot it because this guy's a goddamn snake. And he takes him out to the, to the godswood. and they're having a little discussion about things. Like, hey, man, look, I love Reneira. We all love Reneer.

She's great. She's good. She's fun. She's silly. She's a good time. Like, yeah, she's, but she's not a man. And we need you because you got a dick. And we need a dick to win this war, man.

So we need a king. Time for you to step up, Damon. Luckily, Sir Simon Strong is within earshot. I don't know if he's within earshot, but he's, he smells a little treachery. he just sees the treachery yeah he just sees a little treachery he's like i don't like how this is going i need to get somebody else involved because i do not feel comfortable yeah but as soon as i saw damon walk away and smirk i was like oh i know where this is going i was like damon i thought he's going i thought he's going to kill him i did too i really did and i would have loved that again right that in there

yeah yeah just fucking stick them smell you alfred like and even later when they when reneer comes back to Karen Holphe. He's going to get it. But will he? Will he? In two years? Maybe. I don't know. I'm losing faith in the deaths in this show. We had a death pool. Fucking one person died.

That's the worst death. Whoever had that just won a ton of money because those odds were bad. One major death of this season. That's all we got. But we flash back to Kings Landing and Amund is discussing, you know, the King's Landing. And what's going on there? And hey, we need to inspect all the boats. And well, the fish are going to be held up. And these people have been eating fish stew for a year now. And they're going to be even more upset when they don't even have their fish stew.

He's like, we all must make sacrifices. It's like you're losing the people. You've lost the people, honestly. They're all on Team Renera now. And we jump over to Helena and Allison. And I love this line. This was funny. Why do people hate us?

Yeah. I don't know. She's just completely out of touch. You can tell that like Helena has drifted. so far from the real world she's just not comfortable with it anymore every time that she leaves that castle somebody tries to kill her yeah that's something traumatic happens so yeah you need to go hide in here and again i love that alison's like maybe we could just run away just you and i we could run away we could go live off the land i'll just bring a couple of protectors but you know we can go

live off the land every time you try to take this poor girl outside of the castle something bad happens to her i mean you just let her sit there let her hang out because then Amon's going to go throw on the back of a goddamn dragon. She's damned if you do, damned if you don't. But I don't even blame Amon in this situation. Allison started all of this. Like, yes, obviously, Amund is fucking insane and he wants to go burn down a city because he feels like he's lesser than after seeing what Ranira has.

Sure, I get that. That's Amon. But when Aiman comes in and says, we need you, this is for the good of the realm. Allison started all of that. That's how she raised her children. You threw Agon a drunk on the threat. own because we need you your family needs you and the realm needs you why do you think that they all think this of course amon's going to come in and grab his sister and say i need another

dragon it's tough shit you better go hop on that dragon we're going to go burn some cities now we're going to go right to harran hall and we're going to go confront damon and try to take out his fucking army yes all of that makes sense i don't even blame amman in this situation alison trying to parent right now it just makes no sense too little too late your kids are gone they're done Helena's in another fucking dimension. Amon's burning down cities willy-nilly, and Agon is burnt to a crisp, and his dick doesn't work anymore if you didn't know.

He's on his leg. Has anybody asked him? He's on his leg every time. No. Nobody cares about his dick. Lars didn't even ask him after he keeps, look, he's fishing. He's bringing it up multiple times, Lars, because he wants you to say, oh man, how's your dick?

And then he's going to say, not good, Laris, but thanks for checking. Did I tell you about my club foot? because I can't really walk that fast and I definitely can't run. I'm sorry that your dick burnt off. I would love if next season there's a funny reprieve moment

where it's those two just trauma dumping while they're hammered. It's like, oh, you think your dick's bad. Look at this, he pulls his foot out. Lars definitely doesn't drink. I don't know. I could see Lars doing some sad drinking behind the scenes.

It weakens the mind. It does weaken the mind, but maybe they'll get them both. Maybe they'll get like whatever Westros' equivalent of an opium den is. and then they just start trauma dumping on each other of who's got it worse. It's a thousand percent in. Oh, for sure.

Yeah. Without a doubt, somewhere over there in the free cities is just some massive opium where they can go hammer out some shit together. That would be a fun. I would like that. Welcome that. But it ends with Allison going to the Grandmastum saying, I need passage. I got to get somewhere.

I got to go talk to some. I got to take care of some things. GM. I got to get out of it. Originally, I thought that was her trying to secure passage for herself slash Helena. I did too to get out of Dodge. Let me just get out of Dodge. I need to save my daughter.

That's all I really care about. And it wasn't, which we'll get to in a bit. Yeah, we will. But the next scene is, I just thought that Maister Orwell's just like, ah,

fuck. All right. Yeah. Like you guys are just using me for all these weird things. I've got Laris over here telling me to push the king so that he gets back on his feet quicker and he's going to steal them from me. I've got you.

You're trying to get out of Dodge. How many more secrets can I hold on to? I don't know what to do it. I'm making you plan tea. every other week because he keep banging Kingsguardmen. They go, I went to Maste's school for 40 years for this, and this is what I'm doing, for shame. But you get Kristen Cole and Gwain, and I actually, I liked this scene a lot.

I really did. And they're discussing, you know, he comes up to, and Gwain comes up to Kristen Cole with a sword out and pretty much saying, why should I not kill you right now? you're banging my sister you're just some guy that is not worthy of the oath that you took to even care about your oath and that's the thing and that's what's been this internal struggle with christin cole for the entire season is yeah he does care he cares about his oath he cares in keeping the oath but at the same time he cannot resist that sweet sweet ass so he keeps going back more and more and fucking himself over at the same time having this battle with himself of i don't want to be this guy but i am this guy but at this point in his life this after seeing what happened at rook's rest he's at the point now he's like yeah i care about the oath yeah i can't stop banging chicks but at the same time gwayne none of this fucking matters bro none of it matters we're all doomed everyone's gonna get burnt to a crisp we're marching on right now to our annihilation have you seen what dragons do to people bud we're irrelevant in this

whole thing we're a speck of dust bro in this massive universe we have no implications whatsoever. So I'm going to sit here and clean my sword with your sister's hanky while you watch me because we're fucked anyway. You can kill me now. I don't give a shit. Honestly, bro, I'm kind of looking forward to it because this is exhausting to the point where Gwain gets depressed and sits down next to him and goes like, fuck.

I just love that like it starts off with Gwain's sword and he's saying it loud enough so that everybody can hear it. I'm going to shame him. I'm going to take command of this entire fucking potential. I don't care anymore. I'm going to go after him. And Cole's just like, sit down, man. We're all going to die.

Who cares? An oath, an oath to not have sex? Do you see what happens out there? I don't give a shit. Fuck you. Sit down next to me. You're going to die. I'm going to die.

Probably in terrible, terrible deaths. And I welcome it at this point. It was the most relatable that Kristen Cole has ever been. I know that we've said, oh, man, we're marked safe from another fucking scene with Kristen Cole. This one I loved. I loved it. It's the most realistic thing ever.

Nothing matters. Who cares? What? I can't get laid because I need to go protect people. I'm going to fucking die, man. You know, it's like, Agon's over there. His dick doesn't even work anymore. It's gone.

It burned up like a sausage. He's pissing down his leg. And what? I'm supposed to be over here not getting ass. I don't care if it's your sister. Who gives a shit? She came on to me. She booty called me every fucking night.

By the way, she was my saving grace. Buddy, she saved my life. life. So yeah, I tapped that ass and we're dead next week anyway, bro. Sit down and have a beer. Like, fuck it. Fuck it all. Yeah, it was so relatable. It was great. It was actually, it was a great scene. It was probably my favorite scene in this episode. When I saw Gwayne sit down as just a defeated man. I was like, that's fucking funny. Because he just 100% transmitted his depression to Gwayne. Wayne's like, wow, this was a fool's errand, huh? I'll sit next to you. Yeah. What can we smoke? Did anyone bring opium from Esos?

I'm depressed Anybody want to wrestle In some mud right now If I need to cheer my life Who cares Let's talk about Let's talk about Agon's dick That's kind of funny

But we move on Until we get Thailand And Lohar And they're having their mud fight Speaking of And Loar's whipping that ass He's got no chance I honestly think

That she let him Get a few good shots In there at the end Just think All right dude You held your own Come on up Come over for dinner tonight

Because we're going to eat people What? that's right that's right we're going to eat some people we're going to eat some people later you come on over here bring that sweet ass over here i want you enough sex with all my wives and we're going to eat some people that's exactly what we do over here i'm just kidding jk about the eating people about the eating ha ha ha hey don't leave me hanging up all right cool oh you i wasn't talking to you that was that was that was oh i'll give you an air five come on come on there we go there we go good job but we get jace and beela and this is the scene where jace is

pouting and she comes in she goes you don't get to pout you're the prince like you can't be pouting in here by the way dumbass all you need to do is rise to the occasion you are the king in waiting you are the heir to the throne to the iron throne and you're sitting down here sulking reading a book like an asshole when you just need to step up a little bit dude show her why you're important because she already thinks you are. You're just spinning this narrative in your head that you're lesser than at this point. So get back up on that horse or dragon.

Go sit next to your mom at the fucking council table and bang some skulls together. Point at people. Tell them what's up. Take command of the room. Be a fucking dragon rider. Air to the throne. Do something.

Stop being a little bitch about it. God damn it. So I'm glad she had that pep talk with him. And lights a fire under his ass because it's been a long time coming. I'm sick of watching your soul can get butt hurt because there's other bastards out there. It's Targaryens, dude. There's a million of you out there.

All of the men in your bloodline are fucking savages that go and bang anything that walks. So yeah, there's a lot of you, but you are the air. So go show them why you're important instead of being, but don't let Ulf punk you, of all people. Yeah. Olf's an idiot. Let's go. I'm sick of it.

It's basically what I said earlier. Like that's how Bailey comes about. about it and we have to have these scenes where jace is pouting he's upset he doesn't love him anymore she's not letting him go to war now we've got idiots here i'm going to be sad and act like i'm reading bala's going to come in here make me feel better poor bala has to go in there every fucking time she has to deal with a lot every time that he's sad he's just he's just deeply sad about people not giving him his due all right dude like go do something like enough of this Stop crying.

Or maybe, you know what? Maybe actually, again, like I said earlier, I do think he's going to die pretty quickly. Maybe don't do something. Maybe just hang out. Hang by your mom or safe. I know you want to go battle. Go be the politician.

Go be the guy that reads books all the time. Go be the guy that gets out there and talks to the people that already support you. Negotiates some deals. Yeah, like be smart. You don't have to be a dragon. You can ride your dragon there. Ride your dragon to a meeting. How about that, buddy?

You don't go. You don't have to. You've got these idiots. Now they're cannon fodder. You have Ulf. go send Ulf to go burn some shit and potentially die and then you get to sit here and be the politician. That seems like a pretty good life to me.

Not bad. Not bad. And by the way, your wife is way tougher than you anyway. So send her to do a mission because she's going to fuck shit up and get out of it unscathed and come on home. She's got this in the bag. He needs to realize his place.

And that's what this whole show has highlighted throughout the entire season, especially with the dudes on the show, is this inherent need to prove yourself constantly. And it's the familial thing. I got to prove myself to my mom. I got to prove myself to the other bastards. I got to prove myself to whomever's in the realm that I'm that guy. Everyone has to do it.

And they're all going through this same exact storyline, this character arc, to get there. And it's honestly getting a little tired. Like, I get it. I know what we're setting up. They're all going through the same battle, this internal struggle of am I that guy? Can I prove everybody else that I am?

We got it. now go fucking do it or die one of the two but i don't need to keep watching you work through these things this personal stress that you're under because nobody likes you anymore get out there and do either go die trying to be that guy or go be the politician next to your mom and show her why you are an important piece of this puzzle don't play the hurt puppy dog anymore i'm over it your your wife should not have to keep bailing you out every time because we need her focused on fighting because she's a badass so you go take care of your shit and let her take care of her shit but quit pouting quit poutin knock it off back to tylin and lohar and they are

cucking tailand once again he's singing a song and it was even funnier because i don't know if you watched the after show but yeah it plays tylan was like oh yeah the mud fight no problem he goes fuck singing like i was uncomfortable sick it was funny that the actual actor was like i didn't want to at all and I had to sing played great and like I thought Thailand's I really like Thailand he plays that character whoever that actor is does a great job with that character and I will say that across the board on this show regardless of your thoughts and feelings on how this season went the actors are phenomenal yeah they're all great I don't know if the uh if because with eric they were actually twin actors I don't know if it's the same for Jason and Thailand I don't know

yeah i think it might be i'm not sure just because they don't have as much screen time and they're not really together ever so maybe not but either way lovely and i love that he has to get up there and sing i'm happy that he wasn't seeing rains of castamere because that would have been wrong by the way because rains of casimir doesn't happen for another hundred years so i'm really happy that didn't happen that would have pissed me off but yeah very very funny and i just love that he sits down and now he's getting his praise he's still being called Tyrod and Tyron or Tyman. Tyman.

Yeah, Tyman was a good one. Still getting cucked, still having a good time. He just wants to get the fuck out of there. He does not trust anyone. And look, that's the smart move. Somebody's going to end up to die. It's almost like what they say in Game of Thrones where like it's not a good Dothraki wedding unless somebody dies.

You have to be having that in the back of your head. Like something bad's going to happen here. I need to get the fuck out of Dodge. I've already got my deal secured. I need to go away. Oh, wait. You want me to have sex with your wife? Lives? All right.

How many? How many? How many? Where they are? I'll listen. I'm in. I'm in. I'll hear you out on this one. But my favorite part of the scene is when Lohar agrees to say all she stands up. She says, tomorrow to the gullet, and we're going to show the sea snake and there will be no sea snake, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff.

And then Tyler Stout, he goes, to friendship. Sit out. You don't have to do that. He's just happy. I want to go bang your wives. And she's like, you're a handsome man. A real handsome man. I would like to have kids with you.

And he's like, whoa. And she's like, come bang my wives real quick. Come on, you silly bastard. But I'm curious, genuinely curious, because of, obviously, we know this timeline leads to Game of Thrones and obviously the Lannisters play a large part. Does that laying with her wives? Is that going to be? be a big piece of the future of this show.

Are we going to see that come back? And will that even be a carryover all the way down the line? Because the Lannister, no, you don't? I don't see it happening at all now. Just the thought. Just because Jason, his brother Jason, is the head of Castorley Rock. He's the Lord. So his kids would be the future.

But I don't, I think, I guess to go do whatever he wants. The other part is Lannisters only have sex with each other, really. so, you know, that, that's been a problem. That's just Jamie and Searcy. No, no, I just assume it's all of them. No, it's just Jamie and Jersey. You know, those Lannisters. You can't spell incest without Lannister.

Yep, that works. Close enough. You're going to spell a little different, but yeah. Anywho, we move on, and Reneera is with the Dragon Riders. It's the first meeting of all the new Dragon Riders. We've got three bastards, sorry, two bastards. Well, no, three bastardsers. jace is there so get three bastards you got baila you got raneer at the head of the table

and they're just chatting through some things and olf is a sloppy mess and he's he's acting like he's won the lottery and he's like i need more bird wait did you see the clip from uh behind the scenes for that no so he had to keep eating quail and he ate 30 quail during that scene while they had to go through it and do it every single time and he's like i'm really gonna i haven't eaten anything today i'm eating for free to night very olf by the way and he sat there and ate quail the entire time and asked for more so each time that they did a retake he had to get more quail he said that it was probably somewhere around 30 quail is delicious and well fantastic yes so you know 30's still a lot i'm not knocking them

i'm starving i want some quail now too but reneer sets it up and says hey serve me well and she's trying to nip in the bud you can tell what she's doing she sees all being an idiot she's like Guys, serve me well, and I'll make you all nights. You want to be a night, right? Stop being an asshole at the dinner table. I'm the queen, buddy. Get it together. I know you just got a drag, and you're excited.

But if you want to be a knight, you got to fall in line. But she also realizes that she does need to strike first. She takes Corliss's advice into consideration, says, look, we're in a good position now. We leave in two days, and we're going to go to Lannisport and Oldsdown. And those are the two mainstays for the team. green and we need to go take those out the first thing that people ask wait we're going to kill innocent people it's like yeah yes we're about to go fuck up everybody just to prove a point and end this thing immediately it's not going to be pretty a lot of innocents are going to die but this will prevent

the entire world from burning if we take out these two spots immediately wars over we win yay and i love that in this moment finally finally j steps up and goes it's hard but cannot be helped supporting mom, taking a stand to the table, showing that you're more important than everybody else, would have been great, would have been great if he didn't get all but heard about Jace not getting invited to go fly off with Reneira, which any logical person would have understood by when Reneer gets up to leave because she gets that raven that says, hey, there's some treachery in Heron Hall, get over here, love Sir Simon Strong, winky face. He goes, or sorry, she goes to Adam of Hull and says, hey, Adam.

fly with me let's get out of here yeah jace does not understand why he's an idiot he just doesn't get it he feels like he's being told to sit down because he's just a boy and you're the air you're the air this is now when i leave you take control of dragonstone that's how this works we can't both go who's going to hold it over baila you just watched how the council just ripped all the women apart including myself so yeah you stay here and hold it over that's how it works but he's too butt hurt to even get out of his own way. It's so annoying. But yeah, obviously. And I like that Adam gets selected because he has pledged fealty immediately. The other two, we don't really know where that's going to end up. I think it's kind of funny that, yeah, you expect them to be subservient

to you because you gave them dragons. But they're only there because King's Landing was shit. And Hugh Hammer's got some honor. He has some honor, but he's not played. He hasn't pledged fealty to her it's not like he was in king's landing saying she's the true king olf did but he was only doing that so he could get more free beer so yeah neither of these guys are really trustworthy yet they don't even know adam has maybe had another week on the dragon and the dragon chose him immediately over the other way around so yeah i'm going to trust adam over the other two right now i agree and i love that all of all people's like i'll take vagar silver wings are real to do or whatever go ahead go try please do good luck sir i don't think it's going to

the end well for you. One, Amen is a much more experienced fire. Two, Vagar is the size of a fucking blimp. That dragon's going to fuck you up, pal. No, Silver Wing cannot hang. One-on-one you lose. So you know what? Go. Do that. Be tough. Maybe that'll happen. He's going to be like, I got this and just go rogue and get eaten by Vagar. That'd be fun. That'd be great. But we get back to Harenhall and Damon's asleep and he wakes up and Alice is there. Was Alice crying? I don't think so. I thought she was crying when she's on the bed And that was confusing to me

I didn't know why but she said Hey I'm going to the godswood Follow me pal Time to figure out what all this This debacle has been This five episode long vision quest And Heron Hall You're ready finally

And we don't get to find out What that dear Antlered man animal thing was What the fuck was that? Just wanders off in the distance I can tell you that it's definitely not a lot of people are saying that it's an omen for the barathians but it's not i i know what it is it's not it's not it doesn't really ruin anything but i'm not i don't want to share it on the

podcast people get mad when we predict things correctly and they say we spoil it's like i know guessing yeah no i i know what it is because i now know how to like navigate things so i don't get spoiled but it's just it he could have been seeing something but it for lack of a better term and spoiling things they're just the people that uh are entrusted to keep an eye out for the god's eye and the weirwood trees so they're the protectors they're just protectors fine whatever but she says the omens are here for those who seek them and if you wish to learn what's given to you you're ready and he touches the godwood tree or the burwood whatever and the blood i still don't understand what comes out of that tree all the time but i guess it's

or sap or bloody sap and he has this vision and you do get a callback to the three-eyed raven which i thought was you think it's alice or she has lineage to it because i think it's helena no it's not helena um so that is confirmed that's the three-eyed raven that we know from game of thrones yes i know it's brenden rivers who is a he's a targaryan bastard sort of who isn't yeah exactly he's a targaryian bastard that becomes the three-eyed Raven. So it's the actual Thread Raven that we know. Okay. Great. But it's part, it is a Targaryian because it's part of

Damon's lineage. That's why he's seeing these things. It's all the things that come after you. A lot of people are like, oh, this is confirmation that DeNaris is the prince that was promised. It's like, no, it's not. They're just showing Damon all of the things that are going to happen, starting with him.

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And it's just what happens from here on out. This is the future timeline of Westeros and the part that you play. And that was the biggest thing to take away from this entire thing. this whole entire ayahuasca trip over the past five episodes have been to get him to the point of you are a piece of this puzzle this is a much bigger thing that does not end with your death or the death of anyone in this generation this is the entire fate of westrose and this is the part that you must play for your bloodline to somehow find their way through this you don't you don't but you do he just gets to see a teaser trailer for Game of Thrones seasons 1 through 5. Exactly. That's exactly what it is. That's what you get. But it also ends with Renira on the throne, which is important because it's not you on the throne. This is not a forthcoming, oh, Damon, this is only going to

happen if you get to get to the throne. It's, hey, bud, Renira has to get on the throne for this to happen. This is all going to play out. No matter what you do, you have to just play your part. You know what that is, which, you know, I have feelings about that too. Yeah, I know, I understand what you're saying. But at the same time, like, it is this, if you perform your role in this whole thing correctly, this is what's at the end of it. Targarians do continue on. If you don't play this role, there's no telling what's going to happen. The white walkers are coming.

That's the whole point. Like you said, this is a teaser for game of, it's a set up for Game of Thrones. But it ends with Helena talking directly to him. And that's really important because we've seen her have weird half visions, dreams, not really knowing what to make of it. You were correct because you called the whole season. She's having vision. She sees the future. She knows what's coming.

And we get confirmation of that. The whole time she's been having these weird visions, she has been actually seeing the future. She does know what's happening. She does know how everything's going on. And it flashes immediately over to Aman and Helena. And this is his brotherly way of trying to be like, hey, look, I know you don't want to,

but we kind of need you out there. So why don't you, you know, muster up the courage. and jump on Dreamfire and head out to battle with. Come to Heron Hall. Come to Heron Hall. We'll take care of Amon, but what I got from this scene and the one previous, we've been talking about people jumping across the line.

Traders are changing teams. That sets the stage for her changing teams and going to Amon's side because she also seemingly knows what this whole song of Fire and Ice is and how it plays out and whatever Damon has just seen in the Mirwood, Weirwood, whatever. She has just seen the same thing. So she knows how important the Targarians are and how important Damon is.

So I could definitely see her being like, okay, I will get on Dreamfire, but I'm going over to Team Black. Yeah, she's essentially showing herself as whatever the current, I don't understand dragon dreaming. I don't know what it means. I didn't know that they could talk to each other. I didn't know that she could invade. I didn't know that it was connected to the guy. god's eye and the weirwood trees and the gods of old or anything like that so the fact that she was able to just speak to damon is wild that's pretty cool i liked that and i liked that she was able

to just completely disassemble amends right in front of her oh yeah nothing matters you can kill me all you want nothing matters you can do whatever the hell you want you're going to die i don't like that she says you're going to get swallowed up by the god's eye because the god's eye is a place and i don't like that we now know that whenever the fucked amens goes to the god's eye we're going to be like oh is he going to die because helena said that so i don't like that they're essentially just telling us hey amand you're going to die and you're never seen again this is what's going to happen it's just too much too much information too much of a spoiler just tell us don't do something to throw you off maybe i i don't know it's the way that this show's been going it's kind of pissing me

off so i like he's able to just completely gag him and just be like dude fuck off nothing you do it's sort of like what christin cole just did de quaint yeah nothing matters you can do whatever the hell you want we know what you are you're going to try to do this and that and whatever i don't need to do anything you can kill me right now nothing's going to matter nothing's going to change it's already set in stone you're fucked have fun see you later i'm going to walk hi yeah bye felicia but rinera flies to heran hall and sir simon strong greets her and she sees the army and you see that the army is visibly confused they're looking at the queen and waiting and they're like well that's the queen but we swore fealty to damon who's on the other

side of the room. So we're going to stand here awkwardly kind of looking back and forth until something happens. Then Damon arrives and he walks up to her and says, they're all sworn to me. And he says, well, she says, who are you sworn to? Then you get some old Valerian speech. Love the High Valerian. Sorry, you get some high Valerian back and forth. And you can tell already, like his sentiment seems to have changed. He's not aggressive. He's telling her, hey, I've seen it. You were talking about a song of Fire and Ice. I've seen the shit it's not good we need to come together to figure this out for the better of the entire world yeah this isn't about me anymore he gets down on his knee he does say winter is coming

and he says i know i knew that would piss you off i knew that would piss you off when they call it out it's so on the know so obvious just just just it's a different story just don't stop telling us about shit that didn't happen it's annoying well too late they already did and he said we only have a leader who can there's only one leader that can unite us and my brother chose you he bends the knee like full blown knee bend i am yours to command so is this army let's go team black we got this shit we're ready to roll in two years yep don't get too excited and i and also alfred broom just kind of like sneaking off and get into the crowd kill him right there kill him right here by the way i've got a traitor this guy was on your small council i'm going to drag him over here by

his neck and we're going to chop his head off right in front of you. Do you want to do it? Would you like to feed him to Cyrax? That would have been cool. Instead, he just kind of skulks away and just sneaks away. Now, he's dead. Episode one. He's going to die.

I'm sure he's going to die. It's just like fucking do it right now. Yeah, I wish they had to, but we move on. We get the scene with Corliss and Alan. And this was a different scene than you got with Adam last week where Corliss had that moment with him, which can be taken multiple ways. I saw it as a father-son moment. you didn't but in this scene

Corlis is trying to reach him as a son or at least as a family member and have that kind of rapport with him and he's saying hey man we need to be on good terms you're my first mate you're very curt you're very silent that's tough to lead people that way and Adam is sorry Alan is very much like oh sorry he's very professional like I'll work on it sir I'll do my best sir

and he finally breaks down after he says I'm trying to help you man like i'm trying to help you out here and he goes now you're trying to help me after all these years after your entire bloodline died now you want to call and say hey i'm your dad what's up buddy like this was absolutely great just a full on beat down of corlis who couldn't say a word he just left him alone he even got to the point where he's like your heir died and then your other daughter died and then the new heir that you appointed died so i'm not any of those things leave me the fuck alone you don't want anything to do with me back then you don't want anything to do with me now leave me the fuck alone and corlis couldn't do a thing i love it when i don't especially a bastard

just talking to a fucking high lord like the richest man and fucking westeros just ripping them apart think you're just gonna cry right now oh you're gonna you're gonna cry baby yeah oh you didn't have to sell fish in the cold i had to leave my own life you had to go over there and eat your sweetmeats that sucks yeah you ate sweetmeats for i was freezing Yeah, your son dead. Sorry, bud. Yeah, fuck you, dad. That would have been great.

If he just ended it with the end of it, just a fuck you dad would have been great. You're right. I hate my father and he walks away. But we get to Masaria and Reneira and just a quick touch on these two where she's battling with the fact that

it is now officially wartime and I'm going to kill innocent people very soon. And it's not really a necessary scene honestly and it's just more Masaria saying you are worthy you are the queen because you want to bring peace and she's like but at what

cost it's like that the pre-war preamble where it's like we're sacrificing so much for the we're sacrificing a few for the good of the many that kind of whole deal but before anything can happen Allison finds her way into Dragonstone

and you get this final scene between these two I didn't love this scene honestly I was kind of confused by it she comes in with her tail between her legs she's a changed person i i've i lost my way i was mistaken i resented you so i wanted to get back at you and uh yeah when i walked outside of the city who what a weight was lifted yeah because you set into motion a war that's going to burn down the world because you thought you heard visceris say one thing and he actually said something totally different and you got to

power hungry and wanted your son on the throne who was not fit for duty, by the way. Amund would have been a better choice and he's a fucking psycho too. You didn't have a good option. You forced this and look at what's happening now and now you want to fucking be all Zen piece, whatever and

stroll out into the forest and hang out. Fuck you, man. Seriously. Yeah, I didn't really like this at all. I think it's just fanfare. I think it's just let's get Allison and Renera back together. once again we already had that like we already went through this they had the septa baleer they had

their whole fucking back and forth that was enough the fact that she's able to get back to dragonstone without anybody noticing and then but she's got one protector she just realizes now she can just leave king's lending whenever she wants okay go ahead and do that you go to rinera to just try to concoct some plan amen's going to be leaving soon so i'm going to be able to instruct helena to just let everybody through like that's that's what we're doing here that's that's how we're doing this i don't i just don't get it and it's not like reneer is going to she shouldn't assume that alison's going to actually go through with any of that this whole scene was really just look i i love the actors i think they did a great job they really portray their their characters really well but doing this scene is so stupid

it's just so dumb like you could have i know why they were doing it like i get it's trying to give her one last chance to redeem herself for causing all this shit like hey here's a way to avoid war get you back on the throne we can just end this we can squash this beef and Reneer's like no dude you know I have to kill your kid like the only way this works is if I kill

Aigon and this is what I was talking about earlier it's so obvious and that's what I've gotten frustrated with this season overall is it's no longer question marks because they have not had any as you said there is plot armor in this show whereas Game of Thrones

did not have that so now we can predict fairly easily and we've done a pretty decent job this whole season calling things out game of thrones we wouldn't have been right nearly as much because they would have been a huge curveball we're like holy shit they killed him or they killed her i can't believe that but because it's been so predictable it's like all right well she's going to go she's going to say yes so the rest of this scene is completely irrelevant after she presents that idea i'm like all right she's going to say yes to this she's going to go agon's gone already because he went with Laris, and she's going to think that Allison double-crossed her, and she's going to burn the world down.

That's what's going to happen, and that's what you're setting up, and that's not fun, it's not exciting, it's not a question mark, it's not a cliffhanger. We know what's going to progress after this, and it's confirmed when you see Agon in that passenger cart with Laris at the end of the episode, and after this, I mean, before we get to the montage at the end, the funniest shit is Allison says, come with me. It's like, what are you joking? At a nowhere. What do you mean?

You're talking about your plan to put her back on the throne, which you already did one of those plans and look how it turned out. Now you have another plan to try to write your wrongs. And in the middle of it, you're just going to be like, why don't you just come with me? I love you. And they're both going to cry softly. Like, no, if anything from this scene, I didn't like the scene at all.

You could have changed it a little bit if Renera fucking killed her. Yeah. Why does it just put out a dagger and you'd be like, you know what? No, you're not allowed to leave dead. Because they don't have that this year. All the things. I know. It's just fucking pisses me off.

So yeah, you're going to let her just walk out unscathed and just trust her in three days. Amon's going to go to Haring Hall. And now you know all of these things. And what we're going to get is, by the way, probably what we got in season eight. All of a sudden, the Raven's going to be able to get to Harenhall faster than Amman is able to take Vagar. And the Raven's going to tell Dave. Hey, why don't you hop on Caraxies and meet me at King's Landing and we'll go take down this shit together.

Maybe somebody's there to protect them and then we get some sort of fucking fight. Maybe it's Helena on Dreamfire. I doubt it. I don't know what the hell is going to. It just set up a bunch of shit that like is probably going to end up annoying me. So that's that's kind of where I am right now. Which is fair. It's fair.

And I'm with you. The montage at the end is, again, the one thing that Game of Thrones always did, even when the fucking show sucked. The music is beautiful. The music's incredible. I love that they were able to show each house. And every time they went to from house to house to house, you get the Stark theme,

you get the Lanister theme, you get the, I didn't know that old town had a theme, but you get that. And of course, you do get at least Tessarian, who looks like a beautiful dragon. That blue dragon looked fantastic.

But we don't get to meet Darren right now because he didn't cast him. So, okay, we're going to meet him in season three. That's cool. So it's just, it was a lot of set up. It was a lot of clumsy set up. It was a lot of stretching out a story that just can't be stretched out. And again, I get it.

We understand why they do things like this. But this entire season could have been an email. Like, seriously. It was so long and we invested so much in this. And now we have to wait two more years to get a payoff. But we're not going to trust you that we're going to get that payoff. What's to stop you? I know that it's been confirmed for four seasons.

And that's the end of it. but what's the thing are we are we going to push that off until season four two are we going to have damon and amends as like fourth season stuff i i just it's just pisses me off and is that going to be in 2030 at this point yeah at this point it's too much you're dragging out too much and it was a clumsy ending the montage is cool i guess like you said you get all the houses you get to see all the key players where they fill in what they're bringing to the war what they're ring to the fight. And Otto.

What? Otto was in prison. Auto's in prison somewhere. And the fucking show ends with Raina staring at sheepstealer, which is not a fucking cliffhanger. We knew what was going to happen. Just do that last episode. Get all of the dragon riders with their goddamn dragons because then when a new dragon

comes out of nowhere, you're like, oh, shit, who's going to take that one? Everyone's got a dragon already. That's interesting. This is not. it was a clumsy end of the season it was a clumsy second half of the season it's it's a bummer of course and this is why they get away with this shit we're going to hold out hope for the next season because it has to be a fucking banger because we're in wartime now but you didn't have to make this eight up make this 10 episode season and give us a little taste of it and have them

with one battle and then cliff hang us or like you said cut it short piss us off but leave us with Reneira standing on the edge of a cliff with three dragons, or you bring what's his nuts, C-smoke, C-Smoke, what's Allen's dragon's name? Seasmope. Adam C-Smoke. Yeah, I was right. So have C-Smoke joined that, too. So you have four dragons sitting behind Reneer, or you have Sheepstieler on Dragonback.

You have Raina with Sheep Steeler, and you have five dragons standing there and end the season that way. Don't end it with a cliffhanger last week, a cliffhanger this week, and two. years in waiting that fucking sucks that's a bad format that's bad production that's a bad bad show bad show bad show bad show bad show bad anyway i'm mad and you get this like dune ass ending that's what i wrote it's like literally the same music from dune you get alison standing atop it's like the fucking screaming and wailing and then it ends i was like fuck this show i literally wrote fuck this i'm mad so anyway let's get to some questions I'm sure we got quite a few.

There was a lot of people tagging us before we recorded this that were also not happy with what happened. And it was pretty funny. But let's jump into some questions. From science fiction, I like this. This is a phone one. How did Otto Hightower get captured? Wrong answers only.

What happened? Well, first off, that's my brother. So great question, Mickey. Way to go. Oh, nice. Oh, fuck. let's get creative with this let's have some fun we didn't have any fun during this goddamn episode where was he headed he was headed to old town i believe he was heading to old town i mean opium

has been a pretty good choice maybe he was trying to buy some opium he was trying to buy some opium he was trying to buy some opium and he got human trafficked yeah and now he's in esos oh yeah there you go and he's in the free cities as a slave and uh yeah that's what happened because he got He got, okay. No, no, no, here you go. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. You go, then I'll go. I'm going to tie it back to the actor who played the kicker in the replacements.

He did. I'm going to say that Otto has crippling gambling deaths. And as soon as he left the King's Landing, the safety of Kings Landing, he got pinched immediately because he was betting on the pits. I like that. I like that. Mine is similar, but it's the opium route, but similar idea. So he was depressed after leaving Kings Landing, all the work that he'd put in.

he got the boot so he's leaving king's landing he's depressed he gets to the free cities he's like i'm going to go in this opium dent i got plenty of money he has a crazy week he goes on a fucking massive bender runs out of money takes out a loan to buy more opium can't pay it back the lone sharks they they capture them take them into human trafficking all right that's mine i like it that's how he got captured yep i like that now a real answer i assume laris has something to do with it probably got him catch more than likely yeah yeah maybe he's a heron haul uh that's a possibility i feel like yeah you probably know that old old damon would have killed him no i don't think we went to harran hall enough maybe we should have been a harron hall more often no no we're good there

i'm good if i don't see her and hall i hope that heron hall burns to the ground again but anyway let's uh keep trucking from clack clachman clatchman is sunfire really dead that's a huge change from the book. I don't think so. No, Sunfire is still there. Yeah, they said that Sunfire, they were doing a small council meeting earlier in the season. They said that Sunfire was hurt, injured, whatever, but trying to recuperate at Rook's Rest. Yeah, until you see a full-blown death in any of these shows, they are not dead.

I think they're letting, they're letting Agon think that Sunfire is dead because that will keep him at bay more maybe so that if he does get his power back he doesn't try to get his dragon back and then try to go against uh amens at some point but that's what i'm thinking fair enough fair enough from claudia's life journey how long before olf at hugh betrayed the blacks i don't think hugh will i again we already talked we already talked about all the only way the hugh will is if something happens to his wife and maybe the greens like capture his wife and he has to do something. Ulf, again, I can see him just go into the highest bidder.

He's the first dragon mercenary. He's just getting paid off in Quail. I think that Hugh Hammer's going to kill Ulf. Oh, I like that. I like that a lot. I think that's what's going to happen, yeah. But I think that's because Ulf betrays the blacks and Hugh Hammer takes care of it. Oh, that would be great.

I love that. Well, I like this from Max June. Who will die first on the season three premiere? Jace. I've got. is that your bold answer or your predictable answer no i both okay i think my predictable answer is alfred broom and my bold answer bala or rena rather if they had the guts that game of thrones had then yeah rena is getting torched in the first 30 seconds of that episode and it would be

amazing but no she's going to get on the back of sheep stealer and join the fight i I think that Alfred Brooms, the obvious one. I go with I like Helena. Okay. She rides. She gets on the back of Dreamfire

crosses teams, goes over to Team Black and dies in the process. Oh, okay. All right. I can do that. But takes out somebody with her,

somebody, another key player. And if they start the season off like that heavy, I would love that. That would get us back on track. I like that. We'll do two more.

from Lexi Sains, I think I might have gotten that wrong, but why wouldn't Reneira asked Jace or Bela to go with her to Heronall? Bela, I could see. Jace, we already discussed, but yeah, I don't know. Trusting Adam right away, I don't know, yeah. I don't think it's trusting. I think she just needs Bela and Jace there together to run Dragonstone. I think it's simple of that.

I think that you don't sacrifice your key players. I think you got some newbies in there. And if, you know, God forbid, Adam goes down, it's like, man, he was new anyway. He didn't even know how to ride the dragon yet. We can't lose. Bela is an animal out there. You need her. She's going to fuck some shit up.

Jase is the air. That's why you don't put them at risk. Yeah. Last one. Yeah. And moon guns are also really small. Good point. Last one.

Oh, this is perfect. It ties everything together. from J. Sumus Slackie, Slasky, 26. Which finale was more disappointing? House the Dragon or Jersey? Dragon. Big time Dragon. But she went on to say, to be fair, I liked House the Dragon, just not as a finale.

Jersey was to be expected. I enjoyed Jersey's finale. I agree with that sentiment. If this was a middle of the season episode, we'd be fine. I would have no problems with it. The fact that they ended a two-year high-year high. year-eatus season with this episode is infuriating. Yeah.

My blood was boiling. I felt like I had the blood of Vermethore running through my veins. Call me the cannibal dragon, baby, because I'm hot. Bronze Fury. Bronze Fury. That's Hugh Hammer is not going to beat the porn star allegations in Westerns. No, no, he's definitely not. Either one of the Hugh Hammer or Bronze Fury.

Either one, you are doing some weird shit behind the scenes, pal. Tell you, it can't be a porn star anymore. Agon. He's got no dick, man. He's got no dick. It's gone. He pees down his leg now. It's like a little sausage lake. Just sizzle. Sizzling dicks.

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