Bros & Shows - A Good CMO Would Know How Boring This Is! (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

What's up bros? We're just over halfway through this reunion and every minute that passes, we lose a day of our life force. Suddenly, we're rehashing things from years ago and why? because we have nothing else to talk about. It seems every time a potentially new topic comes up, it's either thwarted and denied immediately or leads to nothing and there's nothing we can do about it. One more episode people; then let's put this bad boy to rest. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I just, I feel like we're watching Groundhogs Day, but it's not quirky and funny and having Bill Murray as the lead. It's full of people. I don't care about arguing about the same shit that we've talked about a bazillion times. Yeah, they're also making me agree with Amanda, which is probably the only thing I'm holding on to for my own entertainment. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight.

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I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Reunion Magoutes. What's up, dude? It's time to clean house. Let's clean house. Let's get rid of them all, and we'll keep Amanda and we'll keep Tilly. I don't know what else to do.

The way that this has turned into me sitting here watching Amanda's performance and actually being the only person on stage aside from the friends of that I'm actually agreeing with or like somewhat liking. What are we doing? How do we get here? I just can't figure it out. All she's doing is offering new things and commenting on her stance on something, not parroting something that she said five seasons in a row, not trying to appeal to the audience,

even though all of these people have lost all of their appeal on TV. It's like she's just being different. And it's so different than everybody else on stage. It's like, okay, at least this is, I guess, authentic in a non-authentic way because she's still being fake as shit. But it's okay. Like she's playing into the show, the other stuff, man. Like the shit that we were rehashing this episode, I was like, what the fuck are we doing? We talked about this shit four fucking years ago, Andy.

What the hell? And all he did for Kyle was give her a platform to make it every excuse. He gave her all of the excuses. He led her with the question like, well, you know, do you think that this hurt? Do you think that this? Dda, bleb, blah, blah. She was like, yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah, that too. Andy. Good idea, Andy. What the fuck? Why are we doing this? Why are you putting us through? this shit. Why are we talking about like Kyle having a hard time dating somebody who didn't want to be on

the show? And he's like, is it? Was it an ultimatum? Like, no, Andy, it wasn't. But did you choose the show over her? No. Like, I don't know. I'm still on the show.

I don't know. Everybody dates people that we don't want on the show. What? What do you mean? What do you mean everybody's date? And then even to read like try. I think this just goes to show you what we've been doing all season. after this episode, I'm looking at DeRite, like, shut up.

Enough. I've had enough of you. Like, you keep doing the same thing. You've got now, you've got the same energy, which I understand. You have the same energy for Kyle. Go for it. But now you're looking at other people and you've got that energy for those people. They didn't do anything to you.

Like, just, let's enough of you. I just, like, I don't know. I agree with that. Like, Doreet is a dog with a bone now. She thinks she has an angle on these other ladies. So she's just harping on the same thing. over and over again. She's being so disingenuous and rude at this point

that Erica, who's trying her best to make amends, Erica's trying to find a bridge forward. She's being nice. She's being polite. She's just trying to get her thoughts and feelings out there. Dereke doesn't have time for it. I'm like, who are you? Who the fuck are you?

Just because you got, this is what happens. And it happened last year. And we talked about it. Dorek gets a little bit of clout. Dorek gets a little bit of the upper hand. She's got some leverage. And then she turns into a fucking disaster. Dude, like Erica's trying her app, like genuinely, trying to like find the bridge between you two because she loves you.

And that's a friendship. She doesn't want to lose. But you need to hear why she was upset with you. That's fine. That's how friendships work. Hey, this is what pissed me off. Dereet. Love you.

But can you understand where I'm coming from? Doreet thinks that she's fucking cooking with this like, apologize for what, Andy? For being a dick, dude. That's what. You can have gripes with how your friends are treating you. and still find middle ground. That's what Erica's trying to do with you. I don't care about the Kyle Dorit thing.

Like that's fine. Whatever. It's a lost cause. But watching Erica say nice things, right? She's saying a couple nice things. She's supporting. And then she just tells DeRite like, hey, this is why though,

because that upset me, Doree. Derey, I don't hear you. I, ah, fuck. I have a genuine question, though. is writing a book or having a ghost writer write a book for you is uh

is that launching a business is that the same thing uh look no i mean it's not i was it was kind of rhetorical because like no it's fucking not but like that was maybe one of the only points of this whole episode where i was actually laughing and like kind of having a good time was der reet talking about how Kyle doesn't support her businesses

and then she was lumping in the book release. And that wasn't even the book release. It was just the cover photo book release. Say, you didn't support my business. That's not a business. Okay, but let's roll the tape. And then the editors did a good job showing all of the businesses that Deereid has had. And Kyle actually showing up to support her.

So I think that right there was probably the final nail on the coffin for everybody. Because I'm already out on Kyle. We already know that. I'm pretty much out on everybody else. Deeree, I'm like, okay, I get, you know, you've got your time. now let it let it let it let it all out she lost me entirely in this episode so that that was the last thing that i was holding on to and then again like you said we go over to amanda and this whole first part of and i don't even know if we even started reviewing this but the whole first part

of the reunion for this episode was amanda's package and we didn't really let us know by the way yeah that that didn't irritate me i actually thought that was kind of funny but because we spent so much time talking about everybody else during her package i thought it was funny that she's like hey guys this is my package could i that was no okay i was like all right yeah you know what you're right that that is pretty funny so i was okay with that but the entire time we're just spending it again talking about the duret just takes over and she's like eric is not supporting me kyle doesn't support me sutton let's talk to you about what you know it's like oh my god dude like what are we why are we doing this anymore like it's just such a lost cause everything is just out of whack and it's not

entertaining. No, it's not even remotely entertaining. And again, disclaimer, obviously, if you're still with me at this point in the episode, you're aware that this is a hate watch. If you're not into that kind of thing, I understand. You probably want to have a nice day while you're listening to your podcast. Just go ahead and pass this one on, all right? You don't need to listen to this one. Because I just realized, hold on. Let me, let me just interject real quick because I got to get this off my mind. I'm drinking a Coke zero and at the bottom of it, it says, Recycled me.

And then it says, see you again soon. Is that a threat? Maybe. Yeah. It might be. I'm a little scared. I'm a little scared. So anyway, let's not, yeah.

Yeah. It goes fear boaters. Yeah, let's talk about Beverly Hills or whatever. Oh, that was much more entertaining. Yeah, that's fine. We'll talk about Coca-Cola cans and their vendetta against people. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. Like, watching this was. such confirmation of just like, wow, they have nothing left. This show is in shambles. We're literally rehashing any major point over the past three to four seasons is being brought up in episode two of this reunion because we have nothing else to talk about. And we continue to go back every single conversation. Comes back to Kyle and Doreet.

No one watching wants them to be friends anymore. more. We're not sitting at home going, oh, my God, will they ever figure this out? Craig and Austin is more captivating than this fucking friendship. And I've been over that for two years. I don't understand. Like, I really don't. We'll go into it as much as we can. As you said, we start out with the Amanda thing. And all we get to do, and that's all this entire reunion was, is highlighting hypocrisies. You said this in the past. Now you're saying that's wrong. You said this in the past.

Now you're saying that's wrong. Sutton, you are the queen of digging. Fancy Drew, as they called you. And now you have a big gripe with Doreet digging into Amanda's shit. What I've learned is this. We are far too sensitive on this show. They can't have fun anymore. There's no playful digging.

Every single thing that arises is end of the world material. and there's nothing fascinating about these women's lives, which is a bummer because there probably is. This is a very, very impressive group of women on paper. And I think they have lost their way because the group dynamic has turned into who can be the biggest victim. Yeah. You're definitely not wrong about that.

We've pointed that out along the way. It's just they're not letting us into their lives. And again, in this episode, when they start talking about dating people that don't want to be on the show, I'm like, oh, cool. So you guys are just openly admitting the fact that half of your life. Yeah, like half of your life is just off limits. We're not going to talk about it. And again, it's the standard that Kyle is set. It's almost like they're smacking us in the face when Andy's like, yeah, let's get to the longest tenured running housewife on the show and all across Bravo.

Kyle Richards, producer, editor, EP, director, everything you want to say. I'm like, Jesus Christ. Like they're not even trying to hide it anymore. There's no point. Like I just don't really understand it. But starting off with Amanda and going through her package, if you want to call it that. And we get right into like the chat GPT thing. Like was Bose being shady by asking chat GPT about Amanda Francis?

And it's like, oh, we don't care. But yes, she was. She absolutely was. And please just admit like, yes, you were being shady. Did you prompt it anyway? No, you actually didn't. So that was kind of interesting. No, but she probably asked it.

No, all that told me is you've asked chat GPT in the past about Amanda Francis and it hasn't been a positive light. And now it's, yeah, correct. And now this is what it's regurgitating. But like I don't care about the CMO role. And if Bose is doing a good job, she's short tenured like yeah, that's one of the gripes that have been written like I guess articles have been written about her and her short 10 years as a CMO.

And like, yeah, she might be right. She might be wrong. She might be hiding something. I just don't care. I really don't like it just doesn't matter to me. It's so inconsequential and it has nothing to do with it because. We didn't really talk about her role as a CMO on the show ever. She's been on for three seasons.

We haven't talked about it once. Like, yeah, by the way, that would be a great thing. I want to dig into anybody else. Like, you know what? That doesn't make sense.

So then go do some research and go talk to Bose. That's called a fucking storyline. Yeah. And we don't do digging on this show anymore. So we can't do that. We're actually, we're not allowed to have any background information. I need to know everything from you.

That's not how it works. Like, the other shows. the other housewife shows are actually pretty open about it now and they're like yeah of course you're new to the group i didn't know anything about you so i looked it up and this is what i found can you talk about this rhode island did it and a lot of them knew each other to begin with they did it in one episode one episode i this is what i heard about you what do you think okay that's what's that's what you're saying we'll we'll see if that's true later cool that's the way to do it like

anyway you get to beverly hills and they're like i don't know if they want to talk about this might be something that's off limits you know let's let's let's just make sure they're okay about this. Or I did some digging. I didn't like you. Kyle said it was okay to not like you, Crystal. That's what that's what came to mind right away when Sutton was being accused of being fancy Drew. I'm like, she did it with so many people. And then the clip that we get is, and she even said it, an article that the producers made them read so they could talk about it on screen. Like, that's not a good example. Go to the Crystal years where Sutton was digging and bringing up random shit from her past. Go to any of that. It's just, it's maddening at this point because there's

nothing again, and this is our problem, pretty much week in and week out, and you guys refuse to stop listening to us. So we have to keep doing it. We have nothing more to talk about. What do we do? They don't talk about anything. So what the hell are we supposed to talk about? Last week, when we did our recap, like two people commented something similar.

You guys didn't even touch on this. I was like, really? Touched on what? Like, yeah. We've talked about it. Look, we're going to be open about it. I remember reading those comments. it is in what we tried to figure this out before too is it in one eye out the other when you're

seeing one ear oh the eye thing yeah yeah yeah it's it's it's in one eye and out my but hold what do we land on in one eye and out what our butt yeah yeah that's that's where it is so i remember reading those comments i don't remember what you were talking about so it's clearly not something very cool that we should have discussed it's just more of like if we were to discuss that at length would our lives be any better would your lives be any better would you would it change your day if we talked deeper about Doreet and Kyle? Probably not. Do we need to know anything more?

Probably not. No. Like, we'll do our best to not miss anything like major here. It's just, it's hard because every topic, and I understand that reunions, we go back and talk about what happened during the season.

I get that. I know it's rehashing some things, but like this is all we've talked about all season. So it's like now we're redoing it with no new information. It's just watching a clippack. of the season. And then going back to say the things you already have, like for example, the business thing, right?

You didn't show up to support my business. After Kyle ironically says, like, why would we tear each other's businesses down? I don't know, but you do it all the time. It's very strange, but you can't take the stance now of like, we always try to pick each other up. You don't. You fucking don't. And as far as the Dereat book thing goes, when you get a text, like Kyle's defense here is

that I sent a text message and you've responded. like let's be real no she wasn't saying we're good she was being polite in response in my opinion so i don't think you're in the free and clear at the same time to reet

why would you expect her to be there you guys aren't friends the only thing that really came from this the only aha moment i was like fucking finally thank you Kyle gets fed up and she's like well for the past two years we haven't been friends it's like fucking exactly exactly

So when you try to have these arguments and these stances of, that's not what friends do to each other. It doesn't work. You guys are not friends. And we all know that at home, you know, it's like you guys are trying to fool each other thinking you're fooling the audience. And we're wise on you. But that's where it just gets so annoying too, because you finally get Kyle to just blurt it out. We haven't been friends in two years. Okay.

Let's go back. Like, this is a great opportunity to revisit. I actually wouldn't even be mad because we already did this in episode one. We could go back and revisit the whole season once again and talk about whether Kyle was talking to other people because she was worried about three. You guys aren't friends. You just said you're not friends.

So now we have a different angle. We have a different way to look at this. We're looking through a different lens. Were you doing it to be a good friend or were you being an asshole? It changes everything. It changes the whole landscape of everything that we just bullshit our way through for the first half of the season. Clearly, you guys aren't friends.

Kyle just said you're not friends. Then why were you asking other people about Jarete's spending habits, about her manic ways, about what she's doing, if she's being too late? You're not doing it because you're a friend that's concerned. You just said you're not friends. So why were you doing it, Kyle? That's a great turnaround. It's an incredible turnaround.

It's the best way to do it. It's such like I got caught completely red-handed. And instead we're like, well, yeah, that's truer words have never been spoken. Cool. Why did we just do this? Why did we talk about this all season if you guys aren't friends? Like, it's so stupid. And it negates everything that we've talked about so far.

So, like, again, I don't know why we do the things that we do on this show. These reunions over the last five years have just been torture because it's all so fake. It truly is just so fake. And you get real parts like Erica and Derreet or at least Erica's approach is more real when it comes to how she feels. She's trying. I do think that she wants to salvage the friendship. but everything else is just such bullshit and it's just all for camera and it amounts to absolutely nothing and then we just do the same thing and it's rinse and repeat again exactly and like

with that revelation of we haven't been friends for two years thank you we all know that now you just said it like you said it paints everything you did this season in a questionable light which is what we were all questioning anyway and when you have to say in response to derit saying your words don't match your actions which i agree with her on that. She goes, I just told you my actions. Guess what, Kyle? You don't tell people action. You take action and show them. So that's irrelevant to me. And then when you go and please for the love of God, all the people out there, they're going to be like, you guys like, Derreet fans, Derreet sucks. This is not a defensive to reet. Okay. I'm not defending Derreet, but just objectively

speaking, when you have Kyle after saying, I just told you my actions. And then she says all the things I've And all you're doing now is trying to list things that Doreet fucked up to try to throw a negative light arm. Why do you keep bringing up the fake accent to embarrass her? That's all that is. The accent, the juicy, Lucy apple juicy thing. The fucking burglary? No. You don't bring up the burglary that we're all at home making jokes about because we think that it allegedly could have been insurance fraud.

Allegedly, we don't know for sure. But you're throwing things out there now to try to put. poke holes in Derreet's stories. Like, that's weird. That's not what a friend does. I'm not defending Derreet. This is objectively speaking. Kyle's trying to play the role of holier than now concerned friend.

You just listed off all of the major issues Durit's had in the past four years. Not in a positive, look what I've done for you, way. But a reminder to the people at home, you guys remember the burglary? That was weird. You guys remember the accent that she used to do? How embarrassing was that? That's what you're fucking doing. It's crazy.

Yeah, and for everybody out there that thinks that we're Dory fans, like you said, she sucks. She, this is what happens. And I don't know. I think I kind of fall for the trap every once in a while because you see a glimmer of maybe she'll turn a corner. Maybe she'll actually be that person that we want her to be and that she can be. And then she does this. And this whole performance in episode two was just brutal because she's just, she's just seeing red. And I get it.

I understand why she's seeing red. Like she's infuriated with Kyle. But to look at everybody else. the cast and do that same thing and have that same energy and like that i just don't fucking care it doesn't work and it's just annoying like it doesn't further any conversation all conversations just get to derit and then they end because she has this i don't care attitude like everybody's yeah everybody's after me everybody's coming after me and it's like okay cool we actually had a good discussion let's let's turn it around again like now kyle's bringing up bad things

you can go to her and say you're bringing up all the bad things that happen to my life why are you doing that that's not a concerned friend instead you're like oh kyle's Kyle. We're not doing this. Okay. Over. Cool. This course is done. Let's move on to something else. It's just, it's frustrating. And they, they torture us with these three-part reunions too. And we were done

after episode one. Like, we had touched on everything. We're not going to get anywhere. We can see the writing on the wall. Cool. Let's move on. Let's bring in Tilly and Kathy and see what we have here. And the further we go into everything, you know, we get to the Dorete versus Amanda thing.

And this is just the perfect way to encapsulate how irrelevant this season is and how stupid all of the issues are. Because one, the whole point, Amanda, that was trying to be made is that you had an opinion. They didn't say a good opinion. They didn't say a bad opinion. They said that you had an opinion. Roll the tape. She had an opinion.

Amanda sees it. I just don't see that there's an issue because I didn't say anything disparaging or anything negative. Nobody fucking said you did. Again, you had an opinion. Here's the funny thing. Her being this delusional and incapable of grasping what they're trying to say to her is funny. I enjoyed it because at least she's consistent. This is who Amanda is.

It's quirky. It's annoying sometimes. But hey, she's holding. fast to I didn't say anything mean. No one said you did. They just said you had an opinion. But at least we get some kind of consistency out of her. And it was mildly entertaining ever so briefly.

Yeah. And I personally have no problem with her having an opinion. To be honest, that's what these shows are. Like, did she come on a little too strong and have an opinion about somebody going through a divorce? Yeah, sure. It's reality TV. It's a housewife show. Of course she's going to come in and have an opinion.

And she read stuff about her divorce. She understands that she has now friends that are around her and mutual friends that she can talk to about it. That's what this show is. And the fact that everybody else is up in arms, Dorek gets all pissed off. How dare you have an opinion. Again, it's sad that her son passed away three years ago. I'm going to be honest.

It's kind of funny that she used that as an excuse. Like, it just is. It's so shocking that you're like, wait, what? Yeah, everybody at the table is like, fuck, I guess we can't really talk about this anymore. And Doreet didn't. And Dorete kept going. And again, that makes for a slightly good moment in a show that just had no good moments this season. And that's okay.

It's completely fine. I don't need Amanda to apologize. Again, like you said, it's very consistent that she's that delusional. I'm okay with it. Like, and watching them try to explain it to her and her not getting it is very funny. And I like that. And I want more housewives like that on this show. That's exactly what you should be doing.

You should have an opinion about somebody else where in the real world you would never have an opinion on, or at least you would and you wouldn't speak about it. This show calls for you to speak on it. So go ahead and keep going, Amanda. I'm fine with you. Everybody else, just grow the fuck up. Like, enough. I think the best example of making mountains out of molehills

and everyone with the thinnest skin in the history of reality TV is again with the Amanda thing, right? Like there's that moment where Doreet says, hey, I'm writing a book. I've hired this like mother-daughter duo to help me write it. And Amanda's like a ghost trainer. I just sat down and wrote. Rude and dismissive, yes, funny, yes.

And also not that crazy, like not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of house wifey. Go to Rhode Island right now. Every scene is a knockdown dragout, like making fun of each other. Then they hug and move on. But now we can't even have fun one-offs because we're going to have to talk about it at the reunion. Like, this should not be a point of contention.

And instead, Rachel takes it. And she's like, I really didn't like that. Like, I really didn't care for that moment, blah, blah, blah. It's like, all right, at least you're chiming in. But then you tap out. It's like you're trying to explain something. And then she gives a response and you're like, yeah, okay, I just didn't like it at the moment. Talk, bro.

Like, go in. Go after Amanda. Rachel, you've had a whole lot to say about Amanda in the confessionals. And Rachel had a great season amidst a sea of bullshit. I'm not taking away from that. You've had a lot of opinions about Amanda and how she's moving. Tell her. It's her package right now. Fucking go. Let's see it. Let's see you two go back and forth. But you don't want to rock the boat. Nobody wants to rock the boat. So we're on Lake

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Yay. I mean, the one funny moment we get is that Kathy fell for a AI rendition of a quote-a-glo diet that fucked her system up pretty bad. It's a very Kathy thing. It was kind of a funny little whatever. But then we talk about Kyle and Moe. I want to remind all of you, we got no new information this season. We didn't see anything we haven't seen. We weren't told anything we weren't told in the past.

we have an entire segment dedicated to Kyle and Mo. Kyle hasn't shared anything with us. We don't know where they stand now. We had one emotional moment that we gave her a lot of credit for during the season when they went to Amanda's house, their old house. Now we're talking about the whole thing. Andy was struck by Mo's emotional disconnect that we all noticed during the seeing of the house. Well, that's what he does, Andy.

He's a businessman. He was looking at that. No, he's not. He didn't sell the fucking house. that's not his house. I don't even think they bought it from you. What do you mean? That doesn't make sense to me.

I don't know. I mean, going from that into, like, I don't even, like this is not a good follow-up question at all because, again, does not further and you're not expecting Kyle

to actually answer normally, but do you think that emotional disconnect kind of led to your, uh, to your separation? What? Probably. Yeah.

Probably. I mean, I don't fucking know. Sure. Like, what a generalized question. Yeah, we're not together. There were things that led to that.

We saw something on film where it didn't look like he was emotionally connected to you while you were going through that. Do you think that led to? Yeah, sure. Great. Okay. Maybe this will keep her talking more about this and what actually let. No, no, it's not. We're going to talk about how uncomfortable it is to be around him and to go to a party where he's acting single.

And, oh, Rachel was there. That was really tough. He is single. I'm sorry. Like, it sucks. Like, you guys are still. And he should have more respect. for you than that, but it is what it is.

Yeah, like, okay, but like more of that. Like, tell us more. Tell us how you're feeling in that moment. Like, I don't know. Again, we have no idea of what really led to your downfall, to your separation, to your divorce inevitably. It does nothing for us. We're hearing more and more.

You could say maybe Kyle's opening up a little bit more, but like she's not really. Too little too late. And also, like, if we really want to dig into this mess, this is just further proof. This whole scene is further proof that she's living in Dululu land, hoping that they're going to make it back together. Like that's what this whole thing is.

And if she opened up more about that during the season, that would be something to latch on to. But again, it's like Rachel's like, well, he's living a very different life. That's not what we hear from Kyle. We have this kumbaya divorce that they're going through where nothing's bad.

Everything's good. When she goes into the Aspen thing, I was like, do you realize how fucking, not good for you this is? Like what you're setting yourself up for, this codependent separation that's going on and it's much more one-sided.

I kind of like, you know, we have drinks, then he goes to his room, I go to my room, then we wake up, we have coffee. I'm like, you're living married,

Kyle. Yeah. Like that's when Beau says, do you think it's a good idea to file now? It's like, yes, because it's going to get contentious,

but you're holding on to hope that Moe is going to come back to the fold. We get confirmation from Rachel. that he is not who he's portraying on TV, which is not surprising at all. That's what we figured. There's a reason there's pictures of him doing body shots on like 16 different girls.

So you're holding on to this, this illusion that you guys are going to get back together, which is going to lead to a much harder downfall when things inevitably go south. Now you're talking about taking half of the agency. I agree. You do deserve half of it. But that kind of umph that you had during that conversation,

where you finally like spoke up and stood your ground a little bit, do that with everything you're talking about. Don't skirt by because you don't want to upset Mo in case you guys get back together. That's all this is giving. Yeah. Yeah. And we talked about it last week. I mean,

it seems like the type of divorce or separation that's just going to go on for years because nobody wants to get into it. And I think Mo is completely happy with that because he's living a single life. And he doesn't really have to worry about it because Kyle's right there. Kyle's still going to stay together. And, you know, we'll see what happens when the kids get a little older. Maybe things will change. But I don't see.

They're getting married and shit. Yeah. I meant like, well, I think their youngest is 18. 16. I think 16 or 17. 16. So, yeah. So when their youngest comes of age, if you will, or gets through college,

maybe things will change a little bit. Maybe things will shift a little bit. But I don't see anything changing in a while because of what Kyle just said. She gets half of the agency. Mo is fine with stringing her along, letting her think that maybe they'll, get back together as long as he gets to live his life and not worry about that nobody wants to get into the financial distress of going through a divorce when there's that much money on the table but you get

lawyers involved you have a huge issue with all of that no one wants to deal with that kyle's perfectly fine with living in la la land for a lot longer mo is fine with letting her stay that way and nothing's going to change so when she's talking about all this i'm like yeah i mean you guys aren't going to get back together she says she doesn't think they're going to get back together at least that she's not holding on. We don't believe her. And nothing's going to change. And we're going to be talking about this in four years, guarantee it.

Oh, yeah, for sure. And, you know, the segment of the effect of social media and the spotlight on the relationships was interesting for that little bit. It's like, yes, that I can empathize and sympathize. I'm sure that that had something to do with the downfall of your marriage. And that really does suck. And that's a sad, sad thing. Like that I can at least understand ever so briefly.

and it's interesting because it gets to the Keely and Boe's stuff. And it's always interesting to me to hear how aware castmates are of the shit being talked online because they don't reference it very often. But then when they do it, it's like, oh, you're reading all of it. But you know exactly what people are saying about Keely. You know exactly what people are saying about Mo. So that's always interesting to break that fourth wall. But as they're talking about all that stuff, what I was not expecting, I don't know why we're here now again. Why the fuck is Morgan Wade being brought up?

I don't know. What's going on? There's no new, there's less, somehow they've, like, they've moved into a territory of negative information. Like, we knew more about Morgan Wade and Kyle two years ago than we do. Yeah. Like, we've actually lost information. They, they've pulled more away from that. So why, again, are we just, I guess from like a journalist standpoint, we're trying to paint the picture that is Kyle Richards' psyche?

it's useless. It is absolutely useless to go down this path unless you're just grasping at straws to talk about things at the reunion, which is probably what they're doing. I just, I couldn't believe when we get back into Morgan Wade, of all things.

I was like, this is where we're currently at. We're at the, and when Derreet's like, and he's like, is that what you were referring to and you had to protect Kyle? Yes.

Yeah. What we know. Yeah. We all know. Morgan Wade should not be coming up this reunion. The funny part is, Morgan Wade, I don't want to be in the spotlight. I don't want people talking about me. Just started a podcast and promoted it. So that's interesting. But again, like, I think

the frustration is it's so par for the course with Kyle that we can't talk about what's going on in her life until we are years removed from it. Then she's willing to rehash things and let us in now that the dust has settled and nobody cares. This is her move year in, year out. And this package of hers is such proof of that because we talk about Mo. You guys got separated over the past two years. We haven't really talked about it until now at the reunion. We were not allowed to ask about Morgan Wade.

We weren't allowed to say her name. Now you're willing to dive into that because the dust is settled and nobody cares. when you say that you share, you don't. You go two years after the fact and then touch on some things here and there. And you're like, see, I shared. Why can't in the moment when this shit is happening, because you are a reality TV star, why don't you do your job and let us in during those moments? When you are hanging out with Morgan Wade tattooing her, maybe then's the time to tell us a little bit more about what's going on.

Do I understand the layers to that and you not knowing where you were going with your sexuality? Absolutely 100%. And I can respect that. But at the same time, we get to these moments, like the big fucking reveal this season. We saw that trailer 40 times where Boes is like, you know, Brad, Brad or Angelina thing. And Kyle says, oh, I could go, Brad, it could go Angelina. We did that last year. But they used that as this big hook to be like, look, she's talking about it finally. We stopped caring about that two years ago, and she knows that. So now she'll open the door. Now she'll let us in. That's bullshit. I mean, that's the entire show, too. We've stopped caring about a lot of these things two years ago.

So now when they come up, especially at a reunion, you just got to check out. Like, I would be pressed to find somebody. And obviously, you know, we have to watch it somewhat intently. But even that gets pretty fucking arduous. I would be pressed to find somebody who's actually hanging on every word watching this reunion. Like, what do you latch and all? on to. What do you? Yeah, please. Like, we should do that. We should actually start doing that for like really bad seasons. Before the reunion starts, we'll put out a poll and we'll say, what are you

looking forward to? Like, right in, what are you actually looking forward to finding out of this reunion? What are you going to like really, really hook into? Nothing. I can't imagine one thing. No. No, I think we should have done that for this one before we started, but it's too late now. we'll try again next season. But for example, I forgot that the Avi thing happened this season. Oh, yeah, that was a thing. And then we're talking about Garcel.

Yep. What? Why? She wasn't mentioned one time this season. We could talk about her all season. And now we're going to get answers from Sutton about their relationship. No. Andy?

No. we don't care we don't care if she had something to say about it she would have talked about it during this season you are fishing what did we get nothing what did we get we got absolutely nothing like this was another thing where i'm like okay maybe sutton they'll at least say something that's worth listening to about all of this or maybe there's new information again we got nothing on obvi absolutely nothing that's clearly like a no-go situation for sutton she hasn't talked about it all season she's not going to talk about it now so let's not even go down that road we get into the garc sell stuff and I'm like, I've heard all of this.

Exactly. You haven't changed anything. And you would think that maybe something would change. You've like, you guys haven't been friends for a while. It's a full year since your friendship ended. Maybe you feel a little bit more empowered to talk on your piece of it at least a little bit. No. It's just nothing.

Absolutely nothing. It's the same rhetoric that we've heard since day one. You know, I just didn't know. And, you know, she just kind of dropped. And yeah, it was a little disheartening. I just don't understand it. well, what do you think about people who say that you're not a good friend to Garcel and you didn't defend her?

Well, I just don't understand because I did defend her. And then the other people, I hate when this happens because while Garcel was on the show, the issue was that Sutton wasn't a good friend to Garcel and people were talking about it. The second Garcel leaves, now all of a sudden you've got Kyle and Erica looking over like, you were a good friend of Garcel. I don't really understand it because they feel like they got burnt at the end of Garcel leaving and they're not friends with her. So they're going to agree with Sutton, even though they went after her for the

three seasons saying you're not a good friend to Garcel. And if you get Garcel started, we're not going to hear anything from Sutton because Sutton's going to stay out of it. Now they're saying that she's a good friend. And again, DeRite getting involved too. It's like, we know how you feel, Doreet. You do not need to speak over people and get involved in this. It just doesn't fucking matter.

But what are we doing? Why is this a bullet point on this reunion chart? I don't get it. I don't know. I have no idea why we got back into that. Like you said, there's no new information. And yes, of course. The other ladies are now going to use this opportunity to be like Team Sutton,

even though they dragged her for seasons. And, you know, I feel like Kyle has now shifted the energy she had for Garcel over to Bose because Bose and Dorit are friends. And because Bose gives Derreet like good advice about situations and what Kyle's actually doing and how she's moving, Kyle doesn't like that. So Kyle says to Derreet, not to Bose, to Derreet, because she has now the balls to anything to Bose. She's like, well, she sways your opinions. Like, you were fine with me until you talk to Bose. Even if Bose was swaying her, what you just described is a friend going to

another friend, it'd be like, hey, what do you think about this? And then that friend giving an opinion and that other person going, hmm, I didn't see it that way. Or you know what? I kind of felt that way, too. I'm glad you backed me up. Now I know what I know what I feel about it. That's how friendships and conversations work. And now you're trying to say that Derreet is not thinking on her own because Bose had a different opinion because Bose is going against what you're saying and Dorit is following suit. Therefore, Bose is the problem. You don't have the balls to say it to Bose. You say it through Dorit. And here we are once again. It is copy and paste the same shit you said to Sutton about Garcel. Fuck this show. Yeah. And again, it's just it's not captivating.

And like we talked about the Doreen Bose thing. Like it made sense. Bose seemed to be a good friend to Doreen. I've now, I don't know if it's that I don't care at all. So I see it differently. I think it might be. But maybe she's not a good friend to her. Maybe, maybe Bose is just a, it's a circumstantial friendship.

They're on the same show. They seem to get along. They seem to like it. Further some storylines. Yeah, they seem to like each other. But I think at the end of the day, I really don't care. Because even the scenes that we get of Bose and Doreet sitting down, it's like, okay, that's how Derreet really feels.

We've gotten to a point where Doreet just talks about herself the entire time anyway. So it's not like we're getting anything more or anything deeper when it's the two of them talking. I don't know what Bose's role is on this show. I don't know what Doreet's role is on the show anymore. It's just, it's stupid. The whole thing is just very stupid.

And the best way to end this episode is the Erica and Dorete stuff. Again, if there's anything valid from this season, it's that Erica is genuinely sad about where your friendship has gone, Doreet. If you watched the season, which I'm not sure she did or not, her being Doreet,

you would have seen that Erica Jane, Kyle Richards' one-on-one conversations was not Erica dragging you through the mud. It was her questioning things, showing concern, and asking questions about you for the most part, which is what a concerned friend would do. Kyle did not do that.

Erica did. Then we fast forward, to that scene at the dinner table in Italy, and you went way too hard on Erica, who was not going that hard after you, and you said some things that you should probably take back, such as she came after me because she was worried about her job. No, Erica Jane's not going fucking anywhere.

She's fine, and she doesn't, her job does not hinge on you. Doreet, if it did, she'd probably be fired. So to say that was fucked up. That stung, and Erica says that to you, in a very constructive, hey, this really bothered me way, after she had to say, please don't talk to me like that. Talk to you like what?

Like that, Doreet. Like, no matter what happens, you're going at full throttle at everybody that comes after you, because what that does, as you said earlier, it shuts down the dialogue. Now we can't go anywhere. Now we can't discuss, move forward or anything because you want to be a hard ass

and stand 10 toes down to somebody that's trying to level with you and meet you halfway. but she immediately goes to apologize for what, Andy? I don't know. I don't know, saying that, you know, Bose has supported you more than anybody in the group.

It was a good zinger at the time. You can stand on that. But then when you pull back and realize what Erica's done for you, maybe say, yeah, you know, obviously Eric and I, like I is just upset.

The stick up Doreet's ass now is immovable. So now we can't discuss anything. We can't have any closure. We can't move on from. many things. We're just stuck in this, this merry go around from hell where we're just talking about the same things over and over again with no resolve and no semblance of resolve on the horizon. Yeah. And Dorit just has no ability to look past Kyle. That's all it is. And I thought that maybe things would have changed from the end of the season to the reunion, but it didn't. I figured,

okay, it's fine. If you do think because of how the season ended, because of your book release and all of the things that went along with it, if at that time you said, oh, Kyle's pulling the strings. Sutton isn't here because of Kyle. Eric is not here because of Kyle. That's fine. I get that at that point in time. But now we're at the reunion.

Now you've got an Erica Jane across the room looking at you and saying, this is how I feel. This is how you've made me feel. I don't want to feel that way because I do think that we have a good friendship. All you're doing is you came into this reunion with an agenda. You figured Kyle is going to have her ducks in a row and they're all going to go after you. So you're going to play defense the whole time. Your defense is, I don't care what you say.

I don't care what you think about me. I'm going to stand my ground. Erica is coming to you hat and hands, essentially. I mean, this is about as hat and hand as it gets with Erica. She's coming to you trying to say our friendship means more to me than whatever this petty squabble is. I wanted to get that point across to you. It didn't seem like a good time to come over and have a conversation with you. But this is how I felt.

All to read is focused on is the Kyle of it all. All to read is focused on is you're a peon of Kyle. I'm going to treat you the same way that I'm treating Kyle. I'm going to treat something the same way that I'm treating Kyle. I've got my eyes on her. nothing else really matters. And that's just, again, it's not how this works. And you would think that maybe something with laid a fire under her ass,

like seeing Erica come this way, it's almost like a curveball. And it's like, I don't know how to hit this, but like, no, she's still standing her grounds the way that she is with Kyle. So she's doing the same thing and just copying and pacing across the board in her response.

And it's just, again, it's not a way to, it's not a constructive way to do a reunion. It doesn't make any sense. And if you're not going to see that, and this is the first time that I actually do like that Andy has, that weird situation with derit where he just doesn't like der reet and that's fine but hold her feet to

the fire make her realize what's going on here and if that's not going to happen then again this is with the outlook for the show if der reet can't see that eric is coming to her genuinely where are we going to be next season we now have another bridge burnt so now there's even more divide between between the two sides of the room and there's just nothing that we can do like we're just going to have separate filming sessions next year. It's an immovable bridge or an impossible bridge to cross. It's we talk about it ad nauseum across these shows, right? The biggest issues we run into with shows is when you get to a point like this, like in Jersey, right, where you cannot move forward. People refuse to film. There is no resolve. It's all the same things over and over again. We've gotten to that point and past

with Beverly Hills of I'm not budging, you're not budging, that doesn't, well then why are we watching you on TV? Like, we are not on, on this show,

or watching this show, because we love one of you so, so much that we need to see more of you. There's not one cast member on this show that has that kind of star power anymore. So we're not watching for the individual. We're trying to watch for the ensemble.

You guys aren't on, There's no ensembleing anywhere. You refuse to. It's actually like you're trying to prove a point. Be like, look, how stubborn I can be and not talk to anybody. Then what the fuck are we watching? I have no idea. Honestly, I have no idea.

And I know the questions are going to be very similar to how we feel about all of this. And that'll at least make me feel a little bit better. At least I'll feel seen, you know? Yeah, that's all we need. yeah, Sarah Trapps, hang in there. We're almost made it through. We're close. We're so close, boys.

Girls, everybody. I need to answer this one because I don't know she was talking about us. That's really funny. Lindsay Bucks, you hate each other. You're not friends. Please stop. I was like, I love shooter. Oh, I'm not yet talking about Kyle Derry.

We got to answer this one because we've had a few from Lucy RR3. do ladies of London instead. Okay, so we've talked about this before. I commented back on YouTube and someone's like, well, that's still a choice. Look, you all at home, listen to the Beverly Hills recabs more than most of the stuff that we put out. That tells me that that's what you guys want to hear. We are here for you. So we have to make concessions of shows that aren't listened to as much because if they're not listened to as much,

that tells me that you guys want something else instead ladies of london will have it stay in the sun i'm very very confident about that and we'll be the first ones to recap but we are in love with that show unfortunately it wasn't doing great so we had to shift our focus because there's like eight shows on right now and we we have to do beverly hills so when people like we'll do this instead we can't because we give the people what they want and you guys want to listen to us going through horrible depressions while watching Railhouse Boys at Beverly Hills. So that's what we do. Yeah, unfortunately, 10 people commenting to do Ladies of London

versus 12 to 15,000 people listening to Beverly Hills. That math ain't math, unfortunately, but I do love Ladies of London. And fuck Margo. That's what I'm going to say on that. Oh, this is awesome from H.M. Faulkner. Unrelated. Love it because it's not Beverly Hills. Your podcast helped me run my fastest half marathon this past weekend.

Good for you. Good for you. Listening to a podcast while running a marathon is kind of funny. I feel like everybody always has playlists. It's a badass move. I'm glad we can help. Yep. From Mary Had a little,

did you see Bose's response to Andy's look after she explained the CMO is short term? Yes, I did. I don't care either way. I think she is right, to be honest. I do think that she's like elevating the CMO. Like when the stock dips, the CMO is the, when they answer like that's not true but i think that it's fine i think that the short tenure

makes a ton of sense to me i feel like she she specializes in going into companies that need to get some shit right and then she leaves when they get that shit right it totally makes sense it does not fucking matter though i'll tell you that no no and that's that's the big takeaway here is like we know damn well in this space that we're all in if there was dirt on bows and her early departures from companies. We know. I think it's very plausible that she bops in, fixes something bops out.

Could one of those not have gone well? And she got fired prematurely. Absolutely. Totally. Does Bose have a shitload of money and a very good reputation? She does. So until we see a smoking gun of some sort, this is a non-factor.

It's a non-issue. It doesn't fucking matter. Uh, from Zoe Cove-Lipale. do you like Doreet sassing off to Andy because it's clear he doesn't like her? She is 100% right about all of that. It makes tons of sense.

However, Doreat was just spraying shots everywhere. Everybody could catch those hands. It was made a fun way because she was wrong so many times that when she did that finally, and I agreed that she did that and that was correct, it doesn't matter. It really just isn't going to matter because she was wrong too many times to be right once.

Yep. Mary had a little, not a cue. This is a good point. Not a cue, but Rachel needs to stop mumbling shit and speak up more. Absolutely. Yes. We need more. Like she had a great, great return to TV.

Loved her during the season. And I'm trying to chalk it up to new in the group. Doesn't want to come into a hot. If that's the case, I respect it to a certain extent. If she comes back next season and it's more of this where it's like, you know, the confessional warrior. and then nothing face to face, I'm going to have a big issue

because I do firmly believe that the future of this show weighs heavily on Rachel's out. I think that she could help fix this show, but she needs to bring it in every aspect and talking shit in a confessional and then gently saying it on stage to Amanda at the reunion and then having more to say about it

in a confessional afterwards. No, when they're in the dressing room afterwards, she has more to say about it. Where was that on stage? I need more on stage. We all need more from you. And that is a testament to how much we all like you.

You need to bring the fucking thunder. Yep. I'm going to do two here. If you find one for the end, you can. But Robert Taylor, writer of stuff, if nothing happens during an episode, does it really exist? No, it shouldn't. The tree falls in the woods thing.

Yeah, they should have done that. And Amanda Rocky's mom, long one. Why did they have no problem getting rid of Vicky from OC, who is actually good TV, but insist on keeping Kyle? she's terrible and boring. I'm so sick of how she's out hearing how she's the longest running housewife. Vicky is better than Kyle. I agree.

Vicky is way better than Kyle. The way that I see it is in the spreadsheet of who's getting paid the most. It was probably between Vicki and Kyle. And they opted to keep Kyle and got rid of Vicky. And then they ended up bringing her back, which is, you know, hopefully good for O.C. But it's not good. I fully agree with you. Vicky is way better than Kyle.

Yep. I'll do a couple here and then we'll wrap it up. This is a good one from Diana and Jerry. What's not clicking about what Bose is saying about Amanda, her courses versus Amanda's course. Sorry, let me read that again. What's not clicking about Bose? I can't read.

Last try. Third time's a charm. Diane and Jerry says, what's not clicking about what Bose is saying about her courses versus Amanda's? As we talked about this last week, and somebody got mad at us in the comments because they were like, Bose said she wasn't doing it for profit.

We both, I'll speak for both of us here. And if I'm wrong, you can correct me. We're both under the impression that Bose is embarrassed that her class did not make money. And therefore took the defense of, I'm not trying to make money. That's the vibe I got.

Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty much what it was. And then somebody else said like it was for a charitable donation or say, I wasn't a business woman doing something that can be. for profit that didn't make profit is now saying that it wasn't for profit. Yeah, you can miss me with that one. Absolutely miss me with that one. But again, like Amanda kind of stood her ground. Like, yeah, yeah, she's, Bose is right. Amanda always jumps to her defense when people bring up

her business because she's used to people bashing her business. Makes total sense. She was a cult. I'm not changing that either. Yeah, it probably is a cult. And again, we didn't talk too much about that, which was quite annoying because we have to make, uh, make things clear for Kyle and Dorit, I guess. I just, it's just so stupid. Like I wish that we could spend more time talking about the debate between Bose and Amanda, but we don't. We just simply don't. We move on to Kyle and Mel. Isn't that frustrating? Isn't that so genuinely frustrating? That's something I wanted to talk about. I wanted answers for the mask thing. I wanted answers for the course. I wanted to press both of them a bit more. Do I believe that

Bose is okay with it being more like educational and helping people? Yes, I do think that she's happy about that. I also think she's annoyed that it didn't turn a profit. But she used that to be like, no, no, no, it's for charity. Okay, fine. But that's only because Amanda brought it up and you felt like you had to defend it.

Much like Amanda feels the need to defend her shit, you, Bose are defending your shit. So, tee these, both of these ladies up, point them at each other, and let's go. Let's see what they got. that would be more entertaining than talking to Kyle again about everything we've already talked to Kyle about. Because the only person in the world, not being hyperbolic, the only person in the world that gives a shit about what Kyle Richards is doing is Andy Cohen.

That's it. Yeah, that's a good point. Which ends us on our last question, which is from Bees, man gram 0727 what's the point of yeah that's the question what's the point of wow i don't know what a question yeah and that deep uh i don't know i don't think i ever will yep i think that's the beauty of it you know what's the point of yeah what is the point of i don't know what i do know is the flyers uh we got puck drop in six minutes and the sixers are on at eight eight okay so

won't say anything because we know what happens when we do but uh yeah we got one more episode of this travesty and then we can put beverly hills away for six to eight months we say this at the end of every season uh man i'm i'm i'm hoping for the day that we say oh man the season's over can't wait for next year well that went so fast yeah that's what we say fuck it's it's beverly hill season again Yeah. That's all I got.

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