Bros & Shows - A Kathy Hilton Trip to Oceanside (Part 1 of 2) (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

What's up Bros? We split RHOBH into a two parter for youse to make sure we cover everything. The RHOBH crew is taking a little trip thanks to Kathy. We're headed to Oceanside. Kathy personally drops off personalized luggage to each of the ladies as an official invitation to the trip. Before we head out, we see Mau and Kyle sit down to chat. It appears that Kyle is having a difficult time transitioning into this new life in a big empty house, but from what we can see, Mau has never been happier. Dorit is having a difficult time as well in the wake of her conversation with PK. While this was a bit of a lighter episode overall until the last dinner (which is in part 2) watching the scenes with Kyle as she navigates this new life is really interesting. You would think since she and Dorit are going through such similar difficulties that they would be able to find a common ground, but Kyle makes it very clear that she is still at odds with Dorit before the trip, and is even apprehensive about being there with her. The tension between this former duo is palpable but nothing calms the vibe down more than a boat shaped Louie Vuitton thanks to Jennifer Tilly, who is fantastic for this show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Brof Bros. A.k.a. Bros. and shows. I am your co-host. You're also joined as always by the one and only. Zalmof McGoff. That was kind of mean. Oh, my God. You're one of them. Oh, you can't do this in the stands

at a college football game because you make people sad. Number two team of the country. Number two, these nuts, pal. What happened to A&M, buddy? Texas Tech, pal. I'm not on the end up. Yeah, I don't. But they're not even contensions.

They're not relevant. I know that. Yeah, that's a good point. We're in much better spirits because we just did Roney and that was awful. But Beverly Hills, on the other hand, good show, having a good time. Beverly Hills. That's what we want to watch. Yep, that works.

Well, because we watched Roney and it was, um yeah man i was a trudge through wasn't it yeah yeah but we're better spirits now because we get to talk about rob huh which is having a much better season so far than it did last year which we're excited about durit just bravo dureate i am really really enjoying what we're getting out of her unfortunately we're getting more of the same out of kyle which is not surprising but i yeah i I mean, she's bringing certain things that I don't hate, but just overall is, like, if she's going to stay where she's going to stay and Durit's going to absolutely clock her, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I'm cool with that. It's about damn time.

It's about damn time. I'm tired, grandpa. It's too damn bad. Well, excuse me. But like I said, we're here to talk about Roba. And look, we just, like I said, trudged through Roney. I don't want to wait. I don't want to wait.

Let's make haste and we'll talk about this episode immediately. Do it. Because we also have to watch Southern Charm and recap that tonight, which will be our third episode. Yeah. This is our second episode. So you guys know what happens. We will do our best to stay on track here. But who knows, it's going to go off the rails.

By Southern Charm, it's going to be just nonsense. But I do get to go to the Southern Charm premiered tomorrow night in New York City, in the Big Apple. Big Apple. Big Apple. The city that never sleeps. the windy city, as they call it. I'm excited to get there.

And I will, I'll be reporting from, uh, from the ground. From the, from, from, where you were going. That was. I'll be reporting from, uh, I don't know, I'll be there. I'll take pictures and shit and post them so you guys can see what's up. Now that's a way to explain it. Yeah, Instagram. We're professionals.

Just ask Ryan Bailey. But let's get into Rob, uh, and. And we start out with, I don't, I don't know if they were trying to do this. I'd like to think that they were trying to do this because that would prop up the Robha producers a little bit more in my book. Yep. When you saw Erica Jane talking to the duck, what did you think about in her? Spanos.

Tony Soprano. Yeah. I hope this is a nod to the Sopranos because I like that. I'm going to take it. I like that. Me too, because it makes me feel better. So we get Erica Soprano talking to the duck in the beginning. and then it gets to Kathy, who's planning a weekend getaway at Oceanside.

I'm assuming that's a place in California. I think so. I didn't look it up, but I imagine it's, they said two and a half hours, so I'm going to say two and a half hours southwest. Southeast. Southeast. No, South, or it's the Mexican border. Southeast.

Oh, I guess it goes back. Kind of goes like that. Here we go. Now we're doing hand geography. Jesus Christ, real professional. It goes that way. It's southeast. What the fuck.

kind of goes like this at the bottom if you know what I mean it's like a hexagon but just the diagonal part yeah math oh boy we're already off the rails I didn't take long but Kathy takes it upon herself which I actually appreciated this there's a little funny scene yeah that's what this episode made me feel really good about was the fact that we're at a place with this show because the most of the episode was kind of whatever like it wasn't bad yeah that was my old point as I'm watching I'm like this is nice this is fun like we're bopping down the the highway in california we're getting a drive around beverly hills and an old school rolls royce yep i don't know how that's beverly hillbillies i know

that they had nice cars and like shitty hats but i definitely don't see kathy hilton and think beverly hillbillies but she's dropping off luggage personalized luggage to everybody i want to go on a trip with kathy hilton because i need a new bag yeah you you need some new luggage i just got some new luggage, but I could always use a little bit more. Right? Personalized Hilton luggage. I'll take that. Hell, yeah.

We got a drop. Do you want a pleaded hat? If it's from Kathy Hilton, yeah. That's not pleaded. That's not a pleaded hat. That's what Bose described it as. She said that it was, Kathy Hilton walking in a pleaded sun hat or whatever. Straw hat.

Straw hat, yeah. I thought it was cool that it flips in. I just, I love, and this only happens with Doreet every time. but it always makes me laugh when Kathy's going through everything and she's like uh the brand that one I'm going to give to Jennifer Tilly that one right there I think Dorete would like that

the most and Doret opens it up oh my god I love it what did she call it a Versace hat or something Chanel it's like Chanel and it matches my Chanel pants she likes to name drop we know that I'm for it I'm team Dorete this year so she can keep doing stuff like that she's earned the right to yeah cranking heaters like just she's she's given the business

and I'm here for it, but we get to Kyle and Kathy. That's where we get the Beverly Hillbillies thing and she's redoing the house. You can tell and I think that this will be an interesting season for Kyle simply because of we're watching the stuff, the solo Kyle stuff I think is going to be interesting to watch her transition from a very full house with Mo with the kids to more or less an empty nester. I think Sophia's 16. Is that right? so there's one kid left in the house but that is a staunch difference stark difference from what she's used to so she's doing little things to try to keep herself busy she's changing the wallpaper she's changing the paint she's buying new shit i think it'll be really

interesting to watch her transition into this new lifestyle versus what we're seeing with her with three because that's more of the same right and like you said early on if we're getting the same out of Kyle, but that's resulting in Doreet really taking her down a little bit, I'm all for it. And we're still getting something from Kyle because we're watching this other aspect of her life that is interesting to me. So it is, she's unintentionally doing her job right now. Yeah, that's actually a really good way to put it because I don't think she really has much of a choice, honestly. When the camera show up to your house, like, what are you doing? And she is doing those things. She is trying to figure out how to live in a house without Mo, without half the kids.

She only has one kid left. It's a massive house. But now it's all her house because Mo's moved out and he has his own condo. Seems like his life is fucking great. He's living his best life. He is all smiles and giggles. The hell's everything going over there? Condo's great.

Absolutely perfect. Love it. Do you want the dog? Fuck no. Absolutely not. Fuck your dog. Seriously. He's just, he's in such good spirits and it's such a terrible, terrible dichotomy to watch the two of them together.

Because she is so sad and trying to come to grips of it to the point where she gets to her confessional. And even the producer asks, do you have high hopes that you and Mo will get back together? And she can't even answer that. I didn't care for that. I didn't like that. I thought that was a little too shady. And look, I mean, you could ask that sort of question in a lot of different ways, but not that way in my mind. Well, I think that, you know, here's the thing.

Because it comes off as a shit question. One, two, we're now doing the thing where she's not going to answer questions. So it's a lose, loose. Like, she's not, she's not answering questions. I get it's raw and it's real. And look, that's one of those things. And I've seen split decisions on Instagram about this in the comments. People are pissed that she didn't answer.

Right. I see both sides. I do get, like, we're watching her transition into this life. And it's not easy. It's tough to watch sometimes because you feel bad for her. Even if you hate her, like, you still feel bad for her. But at the same time, it's like, oh, God, now we're going to do this again where we get a whole season of I can't answer that.

don't answer that like i see both think and i could see it a little bit differently and maybe it's just because of the way that we watch it and again like historically speaking kyle not answering questions and being avoidant isn't great and we all hate it we all really disliked it but if i'm putting this just in it by itself in a nutshell i don't blame her for not answering that question because i do think that the producer yeah yeah i see both i more so see this side of it where i think the producer could have asked something a little more open-ended what do you think the future holds for you and mo where do you think you guys are going to be like how does it feel like any of those types of ways that you could have gone around not so black and white are you guys

getting back together yeah the point blank is brutal especially watching it go hand at hand with this scene where they're in so but like we just jumped ahead like three scenes but yeah i know sorry it's we were talking about her you know i don't care figuring out to live her house um live her house live yeah you know whatever live in her new house it second episode let's do it but yeah it's just it's tough in the middle of all of that because you can tell how sad she is and everything that he says she even makes a face to like how are how are you happy i don't get it and we saw tell she's trying to like poke holes in it yeah he's just not giving and she's like oh my god and i i felt bad for her because she is she's like please be sad

please be a little sad because i'm really sad and you don't seem to care you're actually just laughing at me it's on it it's the same thing that we saw last week a little bit different based off of what pk did towards the end but pk walking up and saying yeah single pk look at me it's the same shit i'm single pk yeah mo's doing the same thing and he's just in a happier place he's not being his brash about it and he's not in your face about it but he's kind of in your face about it actually but it's still just it's sad to watch and again it brings me back to her comment in the first week talking about

how she thinks that the divorce is going to be applicable. I just don't think so. We just watched it with Stacy and Potomac. You got to be prepared.

You got to know what's going on. And look, Stacy, listen to the other women on Potomac. I don't think Kyle's going to sit there

with Sutton and talk about the divorce proceedings and try to figure out a way that she can go about it. It's just... But why wouldn't you? She gets 350K a month. If you're going to listen

to anybody, listen to her. Look, Jennifer Tilly. Jennifer. For Tilly, my lord, are you kidding me? A piece of the Simpsons. We'll get to that too, because people on Twitter are fucking idiots. But anyway, it's just... I can't wait to talk about that.

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rank the sisters blah blah blah blah Kyle's got a big issue with that Kathy's even like that was clearly a joke yeah Kyle's in her feels so she takes it too seriously she takes everything too seriously hopefully her and Doree can find a way forward and she just says you need to talk it out and like that's what's so frustrating on Kyle's side of things because it's like at the end of the day, Doreet wants to be your friend. She has always wanted to be your friend. She has always done whatever she can to stay in your good graces

because she has to walk a very tight line with Kyle. She has a short leash because Kyle will then turn around and say you're being a bad friend, even though she's never, ever reciprocating the friendship. And then she has, we'll talk about it. I don't want to blow that up yet. but it's just interesting because all Kyle would have to do is literally sit and talk and let Doreet air it out apologize and that would be the end of it. It would be done.

Doree, great, we're cool now, but that's not going to happen. But this is when we get to Kyle and Moe. And we already talked about most of this whole thing. But I just want to rehash the difference in how they're handling it. Right.

Because of certain things that are said, You know, she's taking, you know, he got a six-month lease because it was a short term. We could see where this went. Each of us have six months. I wanted him to just get a place that was already furnished. He went and bought furniture. That feels more permanent. So in my mind, I'm like, okay.

So Kyle's looking for signs, right? I don't think that Mo is thinking of it that deep. I think he's like, hell yeah, Bachelor. that new shit. I am a billionaire. I'm going to furnish this bad boy with whatever the fuck I want because I have my own space finally. This is dope. I don't think for him he's like dissecting it especially because he's probably smoked about six joints. So he's sitting in his new pad like hell yeah. This place is sick. You know what it needs? Neon lights. Like that's what he's doing right now. Give me a black light. That's exactly what I thought too at the same time. And like I get what Kyle's trying to make it out to be. he's buying furniture this is way more permanent he's very excited if you're maricio you do have so much goddamn money this is a drop in the bucket for you to just go out this is a half a day's work also from a guy's perspective if you're rich and you're in your what how old is maricio 52 or something is 50s yeah you're like in your early 50s you're not just going to go live on

some like random ass furniture you're going to go buy a nice couch that you like you're going to be able to find a couch that you can sit on for seven straight hours of commercial free football on Sunday and you're going to watch Scott Hanson. You're going to Pottery Barn and you're getting the fucking cloud. By the way, that's every dude's dream.

Everyone thinks that guys don't know furniture. 95% of dudes know the cloud couch from pottery barn and we all want it. I'm going to get there eventually but yeah, it makes so much sense to me that he's going to do that. Of course he's going to put his own shit in there. He replaced a photo of the two of you with him and the girl from dancing with the stars in his office in the house that you guys

live together you think he's not going to buy new furniture for his new fuck pad come on but seriously like i i get what she's doing i get that she's trying to say like she's trying to look for reasons for the relationship right whether or not to continue forward he's still in the oh my god i got some freedom and i've got this sick pad downtown or whatever the fuck it is i'm going to stock this bitch to the nines with everything i've ever wanted and it's going to be tacky and stupid and there's going to be arcade games and probably like a basketball hoop and he's just going to sit hang out and smoke weed in his pad like that's all he wants to do it it's not deeper for him but i do understand why she's trying to dissect and i get where she's coming from for sure and

yeah it's got to be hard for sure and that's why again you get this weird dynamic this season of no she's not doing anything as a housewife but she's doing something as a housewife that makes sense as a like a house that's deep yeah we're we're thinking on different levels right now uh-huh but you get here at bros and shows bros and shows the boys know but that difference because we just said right shooter pointed out if you're in your 50s or whatever and you get your own place and you have a shitload of money yeah you're going to buy everything you want if you're in your 50s or 60s and you don't have a lot of money you're going to get a pre-furnished house, much like P.K.

Because you're also, well, hold on, you're also going to, because this just came into my mind, how many years do you think Baricio lived with Kyle and wanted to get certain things like a fucking lazy boy to sit in the corner over there? And Kyle's like absolutely not that would look like shit. He gets to now do that. That is probably every guy that gets through a divorce. And this is what happens. Guys are generally happier right afterwards. They feel like they're on cloud nine and then they work through and then like six to seven months later they're super sad so he's going to spiral eventually yeah there's a there's a downtrend coming kyle don't worry if you want them to be sad it will it will happen yeah but my point was like

you said if you're rich got a new place you're in your 50s recently separated whatever you're going to you're going to buy everything you weren't allowed to buy you're going to buy everything you want to buy if you don't have a ton of money you're going to get a pre-furnished place like a good friend P.K. who commented on our fucking Instagram post the other day. I didn't understand it. He implied that we both still believe in Santa Claus, which I think he thought was a good dig. He also said, you guys are special. Keep doing what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. I liked that part. And then he signed a global entrepreneur, P.K. I don't know how to feel about it. I don't know either. I thought it was like, my takeaway from the comment was he's being a good sport. I

think, which is, to be fair, as far as the guys on Bravo commenting on our shit when we're giving them shit, usually they don't take it that well. They never take it that well. He seemed like he took it okay. He took it fine. Great. Yeah, okay. My point is he's getting a pre-furnished place.

But if you look at the difference between these two separations, just the relationships between the two, they're very different, right? Like Kyle and Mo are amicable, at least for now. Again, protect yourself, Kyle. Make sure you got your shit lined up. He's got a shit ton of money. I know she does too, but like the agency is worth just so, like just outrageous amounts of money.

There's no reason to not have your ducks in a row. PK and Doreet, I feel like we're going to learn more and more as the season goes on. They're a big fucking question mark. So it's a very different. And it's also going to be really interesting all season to watch both of these transpire at the same time and compare the two because of course we're going to compare the two because you can't not compare the two. But you have to.

That's our job. But you even see Kyle, like, trying to figure out her role now in life because she's been a mom. She's been a wife. And yeah, she's had her career, her acting career. She's done other things. I'm not trying to take away from a professional life. But a big aspect of her life was keeping the kids fed, keeping the house clean, keeping the towel stocked, like little shit that Mo's like I got eight towels. I don't, I use one.

Like, that's a dude. We're like, I've got my towel and I've got a backup. up and I'll just kind of swap them out. That's all you need. Eight towels, to me, I was like, that's a lot of towels. Well, we're talking like that's not enough towels. And, and, and hand towels and stuff. I don't need a hand towel.

I need, I need a couple of washcloths. I need, like, three towels. I'll use a washcloths as a hand towel. What? It gets so wet, so fast. Dude, I lived in motels for like seven years. You think? Yeah, but you don't anymore.

I have three. Once, uh, Griffrow is right. I have three. I'd eight three. Episode two, baby. Let's keep going. We get to read and Erica Jane face-timing and Erica spoke to Kyle. She has seen the video.

She talked to Dorit about it. She said to Kyle, like, I do not think that the Bravo con thing was malicious. I don't think that the intent there was to hurt your feelings. but Doreet has a good point. The things that Kyle did to me were on purpose. Yep. And here's the difference between these two, Kyle and Doreet. Doreet has receipts.

All right. And let's say at least one of those were justified. It was at least one of those are a justified ice out. Whether you're irritated with Doreet, whether you've fed up, whether you don't want to deal with it. Okay, fine. I can see one ice out. But you do it frequently. This is a recurring theme.

and as the read points out, it's a pattern. And we get it. The fashion show, iced out. Siding with Erica in Aspen, Kyle lost her shit, iced out. Even though Kyle and Erica are friends now, whatever. They cat did the reunion thing, iced out. If you truly are good friends, if you're close friends, shooter, if you and I have a fucking beef about something like that. Yeah.

Both of us are going to call one another or show up and be like, hey, dickhead, what the fuck? And we're going to hash it out and move on. from it. We're not going to stew on it and not talk to one another. That doesn't make sense. That's not what real friends do. With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside.

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Yeah, and I think it goes back to what we said last week. I think you made a good point of Kyle's just looking for reasons to not be friends with Doreet. And she probably does it with a lot of... That's Debb's credit. Give Dev credit for that. Oh, that was Debs credit.

Yeah, shout out, Dev. It makes a lot more sense. And the way that I've been watching it is not under that light. And this episode, I started looking at it a little differently and started using that as my resource. And it makes so much more sense to me. Because these reasons don't make any sense.

It's almost like Kyle a little bit later, she starts talking about all of these are just really little tiny, pieces that happened. It sounds like Kyle's working with like a 5,000 piece puzzle, but she only has like a third of it done. And she's trying to figure out where the rest of the pieces go. She's got two corners and a bunch of middle pieces that you can't figure out. And she doesn't even know what the picture is. So at the end of the day, she lost the box. Where's the box? I don't know what this is anymore. Was it a picture a little Ben or what? But it still just doesn't

make any sense to me because nothing is adding up and she's just grasping at straws. And I'm happy that to read, it looks like she's using all of the energy that the negative energy that she has towards P.K. And she's putting it all on Kyle, but she's doing it in a really good way where she is being very thorough. And she is, she's analyzing everything that Kyle's saying, taking it away from that party at Sutton through, where the two of them were just completely on different planets. And Doreet made a lot of sense. And Kyle didn't. She walked away from that and said, all right, let's try to understand what Kyle's even saying here. Let me pull up the video. Here's the problem for Kyle.

She keeps pointing to things that we have video evidence of. You're not pointing to things that happened off camera. You're not pointing to that he said, she said, bullshit. You're pointing to things that we watched. Two reunions. Yeah, what is? An Olympiscuit reference. Yeah, it was a limp biscuit reference.

Yeah, come on. Fuck yeah. We are firing on all. We really are. We are killing it right now. But seriously, Kyle is bringing up things that happened on camera that we can all look at. And Bravo can grab and roll into the middle of this episode. And Doreet can put on her phone and send out to people and say, what do you think about

this? Would you be mad at me? No, it was a joke. It's stupid. So I'm happy that Doreet is coming with this energy because it's morphing her into a completely different person that we haven't seen in years. And it's making for very good TV, at least from what I'm seeing. Well, you're seeing a Doreet, that's not yammering on and losing track of what she's saying and just talking for the sake of talking. We're seeing a Dorete that is pointed and she knows what she wants to say and she knows how she wants to say it. And she has evidence and she can back it up. And you're getting a Kyle that doesn't know how to respond, which we haven't seen before because usually Kyle's deflection and gaslighting. Like the, I don't know who you are right now.

Who I don't know this person. Like you're an imposter usually frassels people. Doreat's like, no, no, no, no, shut up, shut up, shut up. And just keeps going. I'm like, fuck, yeah, go, go, go. So it's been awesome to watch so far. I'm really excited to watch the rest of the season. But we get to Kathy's pre-trip.

We're in the pre-trip at Kathy's. And this is why I need to go on a Kathy trip. This is the pre-trip spread. They're leaving this place. Yeah. It's gorgeous. There's a butler with champagne flutes. There's a full spread.

There's Red Bulls in a big tin thing. Yeah, this was like an advertising. for Red Bull because there were Red Bulls and there's Red Bulls everywhere yeah great no I wouldn't a Red Bull no I wasn't a Red Bull no I think it was a Red Bull that was some like wacky one I actually did think it was a weed thing and and Kyle said that ha ha that he says weed in I was like I thought so and then he's like oh doesn't so maybe it's a CBD one I thought that I took it as Maricio has moved on and now he's a single guy and he can drink whatever he wants and he's drinking Red Bull he's just drinking monster yeah I drink monster and I do Zins now that's my thing now and I wear a off t-shirts. That's my thing. Then I take selfies in the gym for arm flexing. Yep. That's, that's Mo. Shout up. My, my arm. That's my,

I'm a you. I can't think I'd be you. Oh, my arm. Yeah, that's what I did. That's what I did. Yep, we're on the same page. We're good. But back to Kathy's, I love the pose as she's entering the house. We get a confession. from Bose, and she's like, the last time I saw these girls, it was fireworks, are they going to fight? Am I going to fight? Who's going to fight? It's like, all right, well, you've probably watched the show, at least a little bit and understand it, but you also are getting a crash course in episode one of, yeah, shit will pop off. Yeah, at some point, you're going to get dragged into

this. You're not even going to expect it. It's going to come out of nowhere, and you're going to side with somebody out of nowhere. And that's based on the relationships you make now when things are quiet. So this will all take shape, but it's, it's funny to hear like the, the setup to what's going to later, yeah, you're going to get dragged into the bullshit. But Kyle's uneasy about to read, obviously. That's still a little bit awkward. She's also walking in with $76,000 worth of accessories in a purse, a wallet, and whatever the hell else was in there. This is why Beverly Hill stands alone, honestly, is because of shit like that. Because you get Jennifer Tilly walking in, with all this wacky shit i'm saving that too because we're getting everyone else everyone else is

walking in we're not at jennifer till oh no we are jennifer tilly yeah with her boat yeah we because we talk about to rete rough morning with the kids uh but there's more with that later so let's talk about tilly first and foremost i say it every time i love jennifer tilly ever since liar liar uh did you know that she's the yeah so ever since then like bride of chucky big chucky fan i actually um my little sister is scared of garden gnomes or was for a very long time because when she was little, I guess I was watching Chuckie and she saw it on TV. I didn't know she was behind me and thought that Chuckie was a garden gnome and had a phobia

of garden gnomes for an extended period of time due to her big brother. So that's my bad. That's reasonable. That's my bad. That's me. But Tilly walks in. Louis Vuitton boat purse. Oh, yeah.

Hatbag with the Hollywood Hills painted on it. And here's how you know. because look we can we can allude to it we can assume certain things like oh that's probably an expensive piece of uh of bagware i don't bagware bagware uh but when you have erika jane corroborate that's when you know because this was her whole life with tom gerardi oh yeah shit like this these unique pieces now what was your take on the boat purse thought it was sick yeah okay cool me too yeah it's like more persons need to be shaped like objects

yeah thank you okay cool I wasn't sure if people were like it's a boat person like no hell no that fucking boat purse you think the coins go in like this the smoke stack I hope you think that would be as many coins like gold de bloons or something

yeah yeah that's a good you know what I mean like like yeah that's what I would yeah she's got booty in there yeah but uh on the way to ocean side and I forgot the place is called mission review or something mission whatever I'm imagining this is a Hilton property probably more or less but on the way there we get to hear about Garcell's track record we got Will Smith yeah Eddie Murphy Sean Penn I feel like she got cut off

I feel like we had more in there I think there was more they started talking before she even said Sean Penn and then she don't do that well yeah I want to hear the whole list because she like a major model in in beverly hills for a while like i need to hear the full track record because i'm sure it's interesting and shit if garsell wrote a book about her time in the modeling industry like back in the heyday of hollywood that would probably be interesting as shit wasn't she working on a book is she okay i don't know that's that sounds yeah i think you're right i think you're right i wonder if that is in there i think that that would be an interesting read for me maybe i'll check that out might be my summer book or maybe when i curl up next to

to my woodstow fire back here in the studie bro, crack open a Garcel book. Why not? This is not a plug. We are not sponsored by Garcels. Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom. You want to tell him?

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