Bros & Shows - A Kathy Hilton Trip to Oceanside (Part 2 of 2) (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

What's up Bros? Its part 2 of our RHOBH recap and the conclusion of the Oceanside trip. The ladies get all checked in and enjoy a lunch on the beach. Dorit seems to have found a confidant in Boz as she shares her issues with PK and how he is handling their separation. He moved into an apartment without informing her and it appears that the communication between them is and was non existent. She struggles leaving her kids behind as they go on the trip, and Boz seems to really listen to her. Given that the rest of the cast gets fed up with Dorit talking too much, its nice to see her be able to have a real conversation about what she is going through. Why the rest of the table takes such an issue with being left out of the conversation doesnt make a whole lot of sense to us. According to Garcelle, it's because they wanna get to know Boz too... Seems like their will be plenty of other opportunites but hey, what do we know? Kyle and Dorit address the elephant in the room at dinner and Kyle continues to act like the victim in the situation. The issue being that it is very unclear what she is actually mad about. However, we have a much different Dorit this season, a Dorit that won't accept half answers and made up reasons. She presses Kyle at a dinner and Kyle's responses still seem extremely hollow. Dorit is upset with Kyle as well, but she has actual examples of why she felt disrespected and disregarded by Kyle throughout the years. Kyle is just mad about 2 separate instances at BravoCon and her manipulative text message getting shown around, and even her girl Erika Jayne thinks that Kyle's anger is a stretch. Seeing Dorit stand her ground this year against Kyle has quickly made this a very interesting season and we are excited to see where it goes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tom Cruise lookalikes. Oh, yeah. That dude was committed, too. You got a look at all the... Yeah, I get it. Yeah, but he, I mean, he had all like the, the facial movements down, the constant smile that you got to be throwing on. Yeah, the manic head movement. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's the Top Gun House. As soon as they showed, I was like, oh, my God, that is that 100% the Top Gun House. I think it looked different back then because it would be really funny to see all those scenes filmed. You're looking at the Top Gun House because it looks like a beach shack, like, by the ocean. And then you just see this massive, like, resort hotel next to it and like shops and stuff would have taken away from the vibe of Top Guns. Yeah. But that would have been kind of funny.

But this isn't a Tom Cruise Top Gun podcast. This is a Beverly Hills podcast right now. We could do that if you guys wanted to. I would love to do that. Nah, nah, nah, no, no, no. Guys, but we get to the beach picnic and we mistake a surfer for a whale. Why not? That's fun.

Why not? Good time. Good kaffism, yep. But Doreet's talking about, I think she had a little meltdown earlier. It's her first time away from the kids. She's leaving them with the nanny. now in the past I would imagine no I don't actually I take that back

so I'm like if she left PK's probably there but now he's probably fucking London yeah so it's her first time since the separation leaving the kids there and we learn more about this separation and again let's compare we have a great comparison Kyle and Moe okay so it seems and appears that Kyle and Moe

during all of this like she knew where he was moving to she clearly was like go somewhere furnished he did not. She knows that as well. Yep. On the flip side, you have PK who didn't tell her they signed a lease, didn't tell her when he moved in. He moved in on his own accord. They agreed not to tell the children they're separating. Yep. And yet he wants the kids to come stay there or is she just saying I'm not going to let the kids stay there. Did he offer to let the kids stay? Because in my brain, I'm like, wow, let's keep digging this shit hole deeper, PK. She's going away for two days and you can't

watch your fucking kids. Yeah, I kind of wanted to know a little bit more about that. And I was also confused. But I know that the kids are still pretty young. So you might be able to swing a, you know, come stay at daddies. But, you know, we're not separated. You don't have to have that talk yet. Either way, no matter how you look at it, no matter how you try to figure it out, it's not a great situation. It's a bad. Well, that's the thing. If you sit down with Doreet and say, hey, how are we going to do this? Because I need to move into a different place. We need some space. Then you can formulate a plan. Now Doret's going out of town and needs the kids to stay with somebody and hires a nanny but their dad is potentially there

so what that doesn't make sense that sucks and also pk doesn't want to talk to her that much they need to sever communications so oh we find out that it went from we can't talk five times a day to they're not talking now and that's a oof magoof but i like the fact that you're getting bows and Doreet having this conversation. I like the fact that Doret's connecting with somebody new because we do know how allegiances tend to fall in this group. So it's also important when you're playing the game, when there's newcomers around and you need some allies to make the effort. I also think that we have listened to everybody on this cast at one point or another, complain about Doret talking, complain about how long winded she is, complain about her stories. So now, Doret found somebody

that genuinely wants to listen to her, that seems to understand where she's coming from. She's actually working through a difficult time in her life. And the other half of the table has an issue with it. They're like, oh, she can't tell us. Like, all right, what? Here's the problem with that is, I feel like a lot of that, obviously, you know,

we're going to get Kyle and Garcel teaming up just because Garcel doesn't like Derrete. And Garstle not liking Derreet is nothing new. It's been going on for seasons. She calls her out for everything. And look, Derreid has made a lot of mistakes. She's done microaggressions and the things that she's said. She doesn't think before she talks.

And she doesn't really have the perspective of how to handle those types of situations. The problem is that it doesn't look like Garcel ever wants to move on and be in a good place with Doreet. She said so herself in the first or second episode that she's just like, yeah, it's Doreet, whatever, you know, but I don't really want to move forward. I don't think that we can ever actually be friends. That's fine. But don't make it your storyline. Don't go against her the entire time. Just fucking butt out.

But don't say in the midst of her talking to somebody that does. want to listen. Yeah. I wish she would share it. Yeah. Like, don't, don't judge Bose because she is listening, because you don't understand that in the first episode at Sutton's party, they connected because both of them just started trauma dumping about their ex-husbands or about, you know, separating from your spouse, things like that. And they both started talking about it and both were on the same level. So don't judge them for that. Don't judge Bose. Don't judge Jareet and don't start getting up. She's not even judging Bose. She's like, We want to get to go, Bose too.

It's like, well, then make the effort and do that. Derreet did make the effort. And they connected right out of the gate. Now they're talking about some shit because Durit needs somebody to talk to. And every time in the past that she's tried to talk to anybody else in this group, you've called her long-winded and annoying, which, yeah, understandable, by the way. Yeah, we get it. Like, I understand where you're coming from, but you can't now be upset because she found somebody to listen to her and you guys don't want to listen. And they're going back and forth and having a conversation.

You guys have your own fucking conversation. And then you make the effort later to connect with both. it's not that hard correct it's really not that hard it's not a sticking point no again it's just a place where they can be like oh here's derit and like poke at her it's like this isn't it that's not it didn't land that wasn't good and again obviously you know we know where kyle stands with darrell at this point i used to really like garcel now i'm just wondering what does she do here she just seems so checked out that's just do anything she's not there half the time she's all filming movies great for you go ahead and do that but yeah it's awesome in terms of the show like you

You've been checked out for years now. You don't do anything. We get a couple of scenes with you here and there, but mostly what you do is just get mad at Doreet and start picking fights with her. It's not going to do anything for me. So I don't know. Especially when Doreet's not getting involved. Like this has nothing to do with Garcel.

No, it has nothing like Carsel. So just that didn't work for me either. But we do get to talk about Jennifer Tilly who got a piece of the Simpsons. Are you shitting me? Not only that. Samin the creator of like a co-creator. Yeah.

Matt Groening is. Mac Groning. Yeah, I know that. I'll see that name forever on this. I can see the intro and the outro. Was it Gracie Films in the theater? Doon, ding, ding, do, do, do, do, do, do. 20th century, Fox. So here's the thing. The discourse on Twitter was fucking hilarious because people are idiots. Oh, my God. Jennifer Tilly was involved and gets money from the Simpsons. She must be a billionaire. there. Jennifer Tilly, nothing to, you know, highly successful actress also. Nothing to get too upset about, but she makes about $6 to $9 million a year because she gets 30% of what Sam Simon's estate gets. Sam Simon is now passed away. RIP, great dude. He also, I don't know if you knew this, co-created Cheers. So she gets a little bit of the Cheers money, too, and the Simpsons money. Everybody started digging through it. You can look it off,

She makes 30% of what the Simpsons make every year. It's somewhere between $6 and $9 million. People online were saying Kathy Hilton needs to watch out because Jennifer Tilly makes more money than Kathy Hill. No, she does. Dude, what? No, come on. What?

They were calling Jennifer Tilly a billionaire. And every reply was just like, you can't be this stupid. It takes you two seconds to Google something. Don't just make assumptions because you know what the Simpsons are and that the Simpsons have been on for 40 years. Simpsons, great show. It's been on, as Jennifer says, for trillions of years.

Great show. Highly lucrative. A ton of money. Yes. And all of the merchandise and everything that goes along with it. Perfect. Love that. It doesn't make her a billionaire and it doesn't make her richer than Kathy.

The Hilton's? Like, what are you? We're talking hundreds, if not thousands of hotels across the world. Not to mention everything else they have their hand in. That's the kind of money that you can't even fathom. yeah like Jennifer Tilly is probably in like the tens or 20s or 30 40 it's heard her net worth is 40 million now okay there you go no still shitload of money she never has to worry about anything and it will continue to come in thank you sam simon but the hilton's yeah people are stupid oof magoof i'm saying that a lot this episode but two episodes yeah we have a little uh little funning games we play a little relay race uh derit takes a takes a header into the sand and little duck duck goose i don't have a problem with this i have no problem with this i think this is fun yeah they were being annoying about this i was i was upset it's like what are we in

nursery school it's like shut up i don't see any you guys like getting the spike ball net ready and playing spike ball on the beach play some duck duck goose i am i am firmly a person that i can't i'm not a beach sitter i need activities even if it's a luncheon the ocean give me some activities yeah i'll get in the ocean. Yeah, give me a, what is it, a Woboba? Waboba, yeah. You know, Woboba. Yeah, I talked with Wobobos. Do I lived in Florida for a long time. Come on. I spent a lot of time at the beach. I spent a lot of time of motels of Florida and the beach with washcloths. I did. The motels are for baseball. Don't make it sound weird, right? I lived out of a suitcase for baseball. God damn it. But let's keep going. We get Sutton and Jennifer Tilly and Garcell. This is them talking about.

about this silent conversation Bose had and like it's just too exclusive like share it with everyone. Shut up. Shut up. Like everyone has side conversation. Talk about your own shit or or interject and be like, hey, what's going on down there? Don't sit in silence and then like me about it in the bathroom. That's stupid. And that's where we get the line. Like we want to get to know Bose too. It's like you'll have your chance. Okay. Like settle down. With Amex platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime. That's the powerful backing of Amex.

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She's like, duh. Yeah, after he's having an absolute meltdown. And Eric is talking about how, you know, you already have differing metals on. So it's okay to do that. No, no, no, no. I would never be able to do that. Because look at this. Oh, my God.

Right? Right. For sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. Good. That's great. That's when you know, like a show's working is when those scenes are like, I could watch this for a while.

Just these two getting ready and not saying words, just reacting to one another. Yep. but we get to dinner we get a nice toast by Kyle and immediately and this is a move it's a move to do this in front of the whole table you're putting her on the spot in the past derit may have coward she may have rambled yep but this is not the Dorita vault she's still very very amped up from all the nicotine because she was cranking hoons all the way down the PCL definitely when she was going southeast as we have figured out. We have figured out. Hand geography. Yep. But she says, look, we need to talk at some point.

You and I tries to be sweet. And she's setting her up and I see what she's doing. And Doreet's like, okay, great. Let's fucking do it then. She just immediately goes in. Like, we have to address this elephant. We have to address the elephant in the room. Kathy tries to forth a cathay of them.

Fourth of cathay of them. You're going to fourth of cathia of them. They have to be organic. I couldn't think of an eth word to go with them with organic. It has to be Thuddle. Thuddle. Yeah,

Thuttle cathyism. Thimble. She tries to force the thimple cathyism. She tries to force a subtle cathyism in there by the elephant thing. It didn't land. But Doreet and Kyle, let's get into it. Because I think Doreet makes a really good point. I think this is a confessional or talking to somebody else.

So they got cutscene. And she's like, she hasn't even cared or tried to understand my pain. that's really true if you watch the conversations they've had when Dorit has had an issue with Kyle it always appears that Kyle deems Dorit as overreacting that's not a real problem like

oh my God like she rolls she does the same thing with Sutton we've seen that as well and they are similar friendships I think the difference is Sutton kind of she read it earlier on we've seen her push back before like last season she did a lot of pushback she's kind of distanced herself enough

where she doesn't have as visceral reaction to Kyle being Kyle. Yeah. Doreet, this is fresh and she's now trying to figure it up. But yeah, I thought that was a great point because we watched it over and over again. She doesn't have time for you. She doesn't think your problems are real.

She doesn't think that she's doing anything wrong. And she goes into, I heard what you're upset about. Like, I understand what you're trying to be upset about. And she's like, I'm just reacting to you, Doreet.

And it's like, Nope. No. Absolutely not. No. Not even kind of. React to her because you, already did that. And DeReed has done her homework at this point. And she's asking you, point

blank, I know what you're mad about. I've talked to other people. I've gotten their opinions on these things. Tell me exactly what it is that you're actually mad about because I've got this, this and this lined up. Let's talk about it. And you can tell Kyle is just unbelievably underprepared for this. Just no fucking clue. She just thinks that she can rest on her laurels. She probably thought that Dereet wasn't going to call her out in this way. She probably thought that maybe somebody would step in and help. I think after last year, the way that Kyle went around and the way that she tried to essentially ruin the show, the rest of the castmates are just staying out of it. They're letting this. They're just letting it happen. Like, here you go. Here's your comeuppance.

You wouldn't talk about anything last year. The reunion was a shit show. We didn't want to deal with it. You said no to every question. You didn't answer anything. You avoided everything the entire year. Here's your chance. We're not going to stop Doreet. We're just going to let her go. Nope. And I like that Doreet is playing the game in bringing other people. people in because it's not I've talked to other people I showed Erica the video yeah she agreed with me this is not that serious and Erica was even surprised she was like I expected something totally different yeah this is what she's pissed about and her response is that's a piece it's a piece well then you better have the rest of this puzzle put together a small piece of a lot of small pieces

like you said earlier this giant 5,000 piece puzzle you better have an order then yep because she does. Derreet does. She has examples. And again, if you want to argue that one of those was legitimate, fine. I'll probably believe you. Like, I'm sure you got to a point with three. You're like, dude, fuck off for a while. Great. Okay. But repeat behavior. And she's going to list it off and you have to defend it. And your defense is then picking apart these little things where it's like, okay, well, and we've all seen this, this dude's comment at BravoCon about you keep trying to make fetch happen with Teddy Mellencamp, let it go already. And, kind of. And kind of, I was like, well, he asked that question at BravoCon.

I didn't appreciate that you wouldn't stand up for Teddy because you're friends with Teddy too, but you know that it's not popular with the fans. You stayed silent. I was like, what? That's not a reason to go on Amazon Live and go on podcasts and go on any interview you can and say that Dorete is overreacting to everything and also exaggerating your friendship. That's not a piece. It's absolutely insanity that this is.

what she's doing the fact that two of those pieces are from bravo con of all places and i get it it does break like a little bit of the fourth wall for bravo and we all understand what's going on and it's great because we can hear news and little stories and things that happen the fact that that's what your basis is for why you're being a shitty friend of derit and why you're completely denying the existence of your friendship is ludicrous the fact that you're going to sit there and say because she shrugged and just kind of let it go here's the real reason here kyle Nobody fucking likes Teddy Melanchap. Teddy Melanchap sucks.

She's a terrible person. She cheated on her husband, which we just found out a week ago. She's a shit person and no one likes her. Nobody on the cast likes her. Doree probably doesn't even like her anymore. You're mad that she didn't stand up for one of the worst people in Bravo? No, this goes to Dev's point where it's like, no, you're literally fishing for reasons to not like Doreet and you can't find a good enough one to stick. So now you're just pulling anything that you can.

And the last piece of evidence you have is arguably the worst. It's the most damning against you, Kyle, not Doreet, because you didn't talk to her for months between the end of filming and the reunion. You guys didn't talk because you iced her out. That was a big misstep on your part, Kyle, because Dorete is the one person that could fucking bury you because you have confided in her because you were good friends. So you shouldn't burn that bridge and you, Kyle, who have been playing this game for a long time, recognize that the night before the reunion and went, oh, shit, I better clean this up pretty

quickly. And you sent her an extremely manipulative text message, alluding to, hey, we don't need to do this tomorrow. We're good friends. We know each other too well. I don't want to be in a bad place with you. Let's hash this out later. We'll talk one on one. What do you think anybody reading that's going to think when you haven't talked to them in months? And now you sent this heartfelt six-paragraph message about how good or friends you are and why you don't need to do this on camera absolutely not and even erika once again she went to erika with the text and look at this shit and erika's like that's manipulative as fuck we all saw it and that's going to be your breaking point that's going to be your big hill to stand on is like i was so upset i

couldn't believe you shared a personal text message that's your fault for putting it in writing all it was was trying to get to read on your team the night before the reunion because you realized that you fucked up by not talking to her up until that point. Nobody's on your team with this. Not anybody in the audience, not anybody sitting around that table. They all read it for what it was. And it's so black and white because you said black and white, we don't need to do this tomorrow. But to that point, why is she not mad at Erica?

For Erica's comments. For Erica being involved. And I love that they kept panning over to Erica in the middle. of this she doesn't want to really be involved but she's also not going to speak up and try to defend kyle that goes so far she brought the fact that dree brought kathy into it too which is a absolute trigger for kyle it's a dagger sitting there saying hey i showed kathy the video and she didn't think it was that big of a deal kathy didn't say a word kyle looked at kathy erika kept shut like nobody said a word in kyle's defense they're just letting her have it how are you not

mad at Erica for the things that were shown on camera last year. You're nitpicking all the things that you're upset about with Doree. Erica did all of those things. Erica was in the room when Doreet read that text message and agreed and even took it further and said it was manipulative. So there's so much more evidence that you are just going after Dorete because you don't like Doree. You don't want to be friends with Dorete, whatever it might be.

I don't know, but it's awful. And I'm happy that Dorete is not only standing up for herself, but she's flourishing and it's giving us great TV. And it's the fucking revenge that we need. needed because we all want revenge on Kyle, too. She almost ruined the show. She did ruin last season. She almost ruined the show entirely. Now we've got Doreek going after her, who we would have probably last year or the year before said is her closest friend on the cast. Not anymore. When your investors, customers, and workers demand more from your business, make it happen with

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No, and DeReed even says, you have confided in me, Kyle, and I would never, ever, ever let that stuff slip. I believe that. Kyle claims to believe that. Yep. Derreid points out, well, she's like, I know you're not that girl, Derreet. Doreet's like, well, then why do you keep going on podcast and interviews saying that I am? You're trying to paint me as that person. Yep.

And you can tell that Doreet is just landing every single punch because Kyle resorts. to like an old adage of God gave you two years in a mouth so you could listen. And Doreet's like, yeah, well, it's time for you to fucking listen. And I was like, get her. Hell yeah. That was a great fucking comeback and something we wouldn't have seen and something that I didn't know Doret was capable of clapbacks like that where it's like, yeah, he did. So shut the fuck up and listen to me. It's my turn now.

We've been waiting for this. We've been seeing this one-sided friendship for years and years. and we've watched Dorit, always bend the knee, always work back into Kyle's favor. It's been irritating at times. We've wanted more from Derreet. We've said this for a long time. We've talked about how irrelevant she became to the show

because she was just a mouthpiece for Kyle, because she was just Kyle's lackey. Because any time she did talk, it was a word salad that ended with chic, and that was her big moment was, oh, it's so chic, it's so chic, talking to Jamie Lee Curtis. That's the things that we got from her in the past

that we had to be like, That's funny, I guess. Doreet had a moment. But now she is just playing the game to perfection. Kyle wasn't ready for it. This is another misstep. You didn't expect this from her. But we've seen stuff out of Doreet like this in her early years on the show.

But now we're seeing it when she's got a vendetta because she is scorned. She is pissed off about her marriage. She has nothing to lose right now. And the best part that I think Kyle again fumbles. Kyle's relying on the fact that I'm going through a hard time right now because I'm getting separated. Guess what? So is Dorit. Not only is she getting separated.

She's losing her house now. She is right there in the trenches, if not more, because you're going to be fine, Kyle. You've got a nest egg waiting for you. We don't know what she's got waiting for her. This show, she might be the next Erica Jane. We don't know. So she's got nothing to lose. And she's also in a really bad place.

So you can't use that as a scapego. Like, oh, stop picking on me. I'm in a bad spot. She's in the same spot you are. Yep. But buckle up. She's not letting up. That's great.

So good. So, so good. That's so Raven. What we got? Questions. And I got to sort through all the people that all the top 10. You know we're the top 10 for 16,000 listeners? How about that?

How about that? From Meg's Just, do you think Dorete is projecting some of her anger at P.K. On to Kyle. Yes. Yes, I do. And keep doing it. From Tata 0228, thoughts on Doreet using Erica's thoughts in her. That's a lot of the word thoughts.

Yeah, a lot of thoughts. Thoughts on Doreet using Erica's thoughts in her argument with Kyle. Fuck yeah. Get messy. Get messy, bring other people in. And look, again, if Erica had a problem with it, she would have, she's been on the show for a long time. I think Erica would have sat there in that scene and said, look, Kyle's in a bad place and tried to make some excuses for Kyle and said, I don't really see it, but maybe she sees it differently. She didn't at all.

She just said, yeah, no, I thought it was going to be worse than it was. And it really wasn't. It was nothing at all. It was clearly just a joke. And she didn't speak up at the dinner. So look at her demeanor when Dorit says it. She just kind of like looks down at the table and goes, like, yeah, well, had her. happened. I'm not going to jump in and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That happened. I said that.

Doreet's using it. So, yeah, I think that Doreet needs to pull every piece of evidence out, especially when you're going up against a person that has none. Kyle's got no good reason to be doing what she's doing, or at least we haven't heard one yet. Yep. If you've got evidence, just stack the evidence against hearsay. That's the best thing always in a case. Yeah. We're lawyers. We're lawyers. Allegedly. Allegedly. Pat and lawyers. Yes. For Max June.

Thoughts on Jennifer's boat purse. We already went there and we love it. I want a boat purse. I don't think we can afford it. $33,000 for a boat purse. We could make one. Yeah, we could make one. We could make a boat purse.

Sure, why not? Let's do one more. From J. Drake 988, why does Garcel hate to read so much? Look, I think there's reasons in the past for there to be tension. Absolutely. I think they've talked certain things out and I think that the last straw we saw it last year

we saw microaggressions from Doreet we saw a conversation in which they tried to hash it out Doreet mishandled that very poorly that did not go well at all and I think it's fine I think it's okay that Garcelle doesn't like Dorete I think she has her reasons and that's fine

where it becomes a problem is moments like when Dorit's talking to Bose. It has nothing to do with your issues with Dorit. We don't need you interjecting there. It doesn't make any sense. And it looks worse on Garcel. If you don't like her, fine.

Just leave her alone. She's leaving you alone. So you can do your own things on this show. There's enough happening where you can be on different sides of the aisle. Fine. Yep. Don't interject. That's where it looks bad.

But I don't think that it's a problem that she doesn't like her. You have your reasons. Great. Then leave her alone at this point. Yeah. If she does something stupid, jump in. Yeah, but her talking to the newbie is not a problem. No, you can't just make a problem at a thin air just because you don't like somebody.

Correct. It doesn't play for good TV. Especially when there's real shit happening around you. That's when it really doesn't play because it's like, we, I don't want to waste any time on this. Also, I want to see what's happening. Carl has been in the past one of like the main people against Kyle and her Kyle antics. Yeah, she always calls her out for all of that shit. She's only going to team up with Kyle this year because I don't think anybody else really is.

And also because it's against three. So we'll see where that gets her. That's going to be the interesting part. And that's what I said early on. I think that Sutton might take a firmer stance. I think that you're going to see more people start to lean one way and that one way being more towards Doreep because they're going to have similar experiences. They're going to see the vast lack of evidence here. Yep.

And that's going to be really damning. Like I think that every single episode we see more and more how much Kyle is scrambling to make an argument. Yeah. She's got nothing. You got nothing. Nothing. Not a damn thing. You know who else?

What? You know who else has nothing? Me. I got nothing. Oh, okay. I thought it was going to be like a good segue into the end of the episode, but I was on mine.

Oh, that's wrong. That's why I do that. I start the sign-offs. I know, but I thought it was a good segue. I appreciate the effort. I tried. Hey. And you know what?

It was good. You did good. Yeah. You did good, pal. Thanks. Hey, you, you, you're good. Thanks. You're good, you.

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