Bros & Shows - A Reasonably Slim Shady Reunion-(RHONJs13ep03, RHOMs05ep14, SumHs07ep02, RHOPs07Reunionpt1)

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

It's reunion time in Potomac... The Bros kick this week off with Jersey and things are getting more tense between the Gorga's and Teresa. Paul and Frank have a bit of an awkward interaction. Then the men of Jersey go to a dinner and Louis and Joe get into it... In Miami, Alexia and Adriana are at odds and Adriana may have said the worst thing in the history of housewives. And that's really hard to do. In Summer House, things between Kyle, Carl and Lindsay and Carl questions his future at Lover Boy... Finally, in Potomac Andy asks Garcelle about the rumors. Mia discusses why her businesses were taken from her. and Ashley is in the hot seat when asked about her current relationship with Michael. Time Stamps: RHONJ-(19:25) RHOM-(50:07) SummerHouse-(57:19) RHOP Reunion (1:06.25) Sponsor: Betterhelp.com/BRAVBROS for 10% off your first month of therapy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen. and I am your co-host.

Steel Russell, joined, as always, by the one and only Adirondack McGee. What's up? There we go. Yeah, that's my new nickname. Feeling great, feeling recharged, went on vacation, just, you know, the short holiday weekend. It's really nice. Colleen and I got a nice little getaway. Went up to the Adirondacks.

I don't know if you, I think you've been to the Berkshires, which is all part of the same mountain chain. So I had a nice little time thinking, you got Poconos, you got Berkshires, you got Adirondacks, which is the best mountain range. honestly I don't know but definitely not the Poconos it's definitely not yeah we can definitely drop that one down I love oh I love the Poconos course but it's definitely not like if you're ranking mountains to go visit yeah Poconos is like a casual weekend trip I think we feel that way because it's so close but I do wonder if the people in like western New York feel the same way about the Adirondacks in western Massachusetts same thing with the Berkshires it was enjoyable I got to see Lake Placid I um got to say little underwhelmed at the

1980 Olympic rink. I was like, whoa, a miracle happened here, but it was just a hockey rink. Let me get this straight. There's the blood or anything anywhere? I was like, what the fuck? You're underwhelmed by an ice skating rink from 20, wow, fuck me, 40 years ago. Yeah, they had one from my God, dude. Well, this is the thing is they, I know, really.

They had one from 1932, and then they had one from 1980, and they weren't really that different, and there were, like, kids playing on it and shit, and our hotel room was full of these, like, knucklehead Canadian hockey kids. They're my favorite. I fucking hate them. Really? They're so fucking funny. We didn't know it.

Like, we were like, oh, we're staying in a nice resort. This is going to be so much fun. It's President's Day weekend, so it's going to be, like, all skiing people. No, it's a bunch of, like, 12-year-old little assholes running around. They had every little private room rented, and they were hitting slap shots with, like, I don't know how the hotel left him do this. But it was an absolute nightmare, and they left. You're that guy now? Well, yeah, because if I go to a hotel, I want to be able to sleep in.

I don't want, like, a fucking 12-year-old sprinting down the hallway. Do you remember when you were 12 in a hotel? Yeah. And how much fun was it to run down the hallways? It was fun for me, but you know what? I realized that I probably terrorized a nice 30-year-old couple who was having a nice romantic getaway. It was just your birthday. That's why you went away.

So how old are you? 32. Okay, good. Just clarifying. Yeah, just clarifying. Wouldn't out there? That's actually the first time that I've said 32, so. Welcome.

Surprised I got it right? Welcome to the club. And, you know, it's funny. And a lot of our listeners probably don't know this, but Dev and I got married on your birthday. Yeah. one year ago. Yeah. So your birthday slash President's Day weekend trip was also.

You will always think about me on your anniversary, which is fun. I will. And, like, it was also my anniversary. And I texted the group like, yeah, big first year anniversary. And Shooter had to interject to go, it's my 32nd anniversary on Earth. Yep. You had to make it about himself. Of course.

No, we legit had a birthday cake at our wedding and saying happy birthday to you because we love you, even though you're an asshole. But I had a lovely anniversary We went to I put a whole day together All right So like I have some connections Because of my cooking And like my private dinner stuff

And I don't ever call upon anybody Because I don't like asking for things Ever But I hit a couple people I was like look I'm trying to put together Like a fun day for For my wife and I It's our first anniversary

I want to make it a big one So here's what I did It was the most romantic shit ever I'm gonna get like all the brownie points type, except they're probably all gone now because I'm bragging about it on a podcast, but whatever. Yeah. So this one woman I work with is like a concierge, and she, like, works with just, like, families and people to, like, put together special events.

Like, she did Deshawn Jackson's return party when he came back to Philly to play for the Eagles. So I hit her up, and I was like, hey, I need something special. I want, like, a fun dinner, like an activity, like, what can you do for me? And she was like, oh, so there's this thing that you can do called a love letter to Philadelphia, all right? And you get on the L train with a tour guide. And you know all the murals are all around Philadelphia, right? So there's one artist named Stephen Powers who did an entire series, and it's called a love letter.

And each mural is a different love letter. And you put them together, and it creates an actual love letter. Okay. So we went down the L, took pictures of all of our murals. It was lovely. You know, our guide, Jerry was our tour guide. And this is, I guess, a free ad for Love Letter to Philadelphia. Yeah, shout out, Jerry.

You should do it. And Jerry. It was an awesome experience. Then we went to Alpin Rose, which was lovely. We got like this big booth in the corner and like, have you ever been there? Corner booth? No, I saw pictures of the steak and I was jealous. Yeah, when you knock, you have to ring a doorbell.

Okay. There's no sign. Yeah, kind of. Kind of. The same vibe. Yeah. And then like a Wizard of Oz door opens up on the door panel and goes, boop. And someone pops their head out and goes, reservation.

Oh, that's fun. So the cherry on top, and this is perfect. So I'm at the gym before our anniversary. And some of my... It's getting a light pump in before the anniversary. No, no, no, no. This is like a week more than before. And there's people talking at the gym.

And they're like, oh, my God, like, we're going to see Heather McMahon in a couple weeks. Like, she's playing downtown. I was like, oh, shit. Like, Dev loves Heather McMahon. I was like, when is she playing? Or when is she performing? They're like, on the 18th. I was like, fuck yes.

I went online, poop tickets. I mean, knocked it out of the park. I'm one for one on anniversary, which is a good feeling. But this brings me to my next point to all of our listeners. because after watching Heather McMahon, I didn't know what to expect. Devin showed me some of her Instagram videos. I'm like, they were funny,

but I wasn't like, oh, like rolling on the floor. Dude, she was fantastic. She was really fucking funny. She was great. She played the Philly crowd perfectly. And like she didn't know that we lost to the Astros in the World Series. And so she'd already made an Eagles reference and, like, everyone got up in arms

and she was like making jokes about being scared. And then she made a joke because she had dinner with like Verlander and Kate Upton. Oh, God. and she was talking about that and everyone starts booing and she goes, well, what? And everyone like, like, we lost the world series. The way she played it off. The way she played it off, I don't know.

Okay. I don't know. I could see that. If she did play it off that, well, you know, kudos to her. But here's my call to action for our listeners. Start bugging her about us. Start tagging us in her comments. I want Heather on this show so bad.

She made a housewise reference during the show. Some of our listeners after I was posting about her, like being at the show. They commented and said, oh, man, like, she loves the housewives. So call to action, brav-brose, start bugging Heather McMahon until she figures out who we are. This is just how we're going to get, like, every guest. So, like, if you guys want somebody on our show, just start bugging them. Just start bugging them. Nothing mean.

Whoa, whoa. Yeah, whoa, I didn't say anything. Nice, yeah. Nice comments. A love letter, if you will. Yeah, a love letter to Heather McMahon from the brav bros. Now, I got to ask, what is, so the first year anniversary is that, like, would? Or tin?

Oh, shit. I don't know. We didn't do that part. We did eat our cake, which is funny because Dev has wanted to eat. We kept the topper. You know, you're supposed to eat the cake topper. The cake at the wedding was great. Yeah.

Now, our cake has been sitting in our freezer for a year in a cardboard box. Yeah, but I've heard before that the cake a year later is better sometimes. Oh, absolutely not. And I didn't think it would be. So here's the thing. Dev has been like, she doesn't like waiting for things, like surprises and stuff like that. Like, trying... Six-month anniversary, let's get that cake.

Seriously. But trying to pull off my, like, my anniversary plans were next to impossible because she just wants to know. She doesn't, like, surprise. So she's been trying to eat this cake, like, every few months. I'm like, now, let's just wait. And I also was like, what do you think this is going to be? Like, do you think this is going to be some crazy, wonderful experience where you're just like, oh, my God, it's still so good. Like, it's been sitting in a box in the freezer and not wrapped.

That's a good point. It's been sitting in a box. It's been sitting in a box. A myth that keeps us going. Probably, because we had it horrible. I think you just broke some sort of like marital code, though, but I'm telling me. You're not supposed to like spill the beans. Oh, my year anniversary, I'm going to be like, fuck, I don't want that cake.

No, you really don't want the cake, but you have to eat it. We're going to keep this into it. We're going to ruin a lot of people's experiences. And not sorry about it, you know? No, I'm not either, but just something better. Fair warning. And if you do put it in your freezer, maybe just take better care of it. It was like this flimsy ass, like, you know the thin cardboard boxes, just like the flap on it?

It was that, just like shoved in the back of our freezer for a year. So maybe that's the problem. But before we get into anything, I do want to do a quick plug. We have a big interview next Monday coming out for you guys. And that's us with Chris Bassett. We had the chance to sit down with him a few weeks ago post-reunion and get his take on everything. He dives deep into how he feels about the season, shit that we didn't see on the screen, stuff that happened behind the scenes, stuff that other people potentially did or did not hear.

it's a lot of info that you're going to want to hear, especially after we get to see what happens next week. So make sure you tune in on Monday. It's going to drop early in the morning. It'll be accompanied with a YouTube video. So head to YouTube if you want to watch it. Head to your streaming service if you want to listen. But anyway, we've been rambling long enough.

So let's get into our Rosenthorn. I'm going to let you go for it. I think I've gone first the last couple weeks. I need a break. I've been excited. So, you know, we've got to get it going. So I've got a rose, and then I've got a rosy thing that kind of morphs into a form. A for a form.

A thorn. So to start off with my rose, we've been going through the reviews. I love the reviews. This one, I'm not really sure how to read these things, but it says Sustainability FTW. For the win, maybe. I don't know if that's not the name of the review. I think it's the person who reviewed it, so I'm a little confused. But anyway, Hart Brow Bros.

Five stars. The fact that people are making a big deal out of two CISHet males are recapping Bravo shows is weird. Love the pod. Y'all get me through my Friday mornings at work. Call back to Cissette. We are, no, this is like three weeks in a row. I think we've had to. Oh, we've been building on it on Twitter, and now it's, I guess it's a thing.

So, you know, that's our thing. All right. Cissette Boys. Okay. Cissette Boys. And now here's my rosy thing. So there have been people on Twitter recently, and I don't know who started this, but they've been not necessarily ranking Bravo podcasts, but more so looking for suggestions.

People reach out. They're like, all right, so here's the four that I listen to, which, what do you guys like out of these? And then people would comment on it. And we get a lot of people comment. And they're like, at Brabros. Brabros are the best, blah, blah, blah. And Bravo Fanatic said brabros is the best Bravo podcast, period. There was a guy, his name is Rick.

and I'm going to give him his name because it's not really a thorn. Sup, Rick. Well, no, I actually don't have a problem with Rick. Here's the thing. And he might be listening. Who knows? But he tweeted last week for suggestions and somebody said brab pros are the best. He went in and said, I got to give them a listen.

He listened to us. He said his issue with the brob pros is that they act like there isn't a reality show being formed. My issue with the brabros is that they act like there isn't a reality show being filmed. Example this week they roasted March for telling Melissa that tray slash Louis said at lunch, blah, blah, blah. and he said, let's not act like the cameras aren't there. He at least listens, you know what I mean? That's fair. I'll give him that.

There are so many people to give a shit when they just look at our videos and like, do you guys not watch the show? It's like, do you fucking listen to the podcast? Right, very different. He actually listens, so I give him a little bit of a prop. And I also get that because you and I look at these people on TV and we're like, these are people. Correct.

It would be a dickhead just because you're on TV. But I understand that a lot of people watch this with a bit of a, I don't want to call it, like rose-colored glasses, but it's, it's, it's, a different perspective. It's definitely, yeah, I see that. They expect, like, the theatrical aspect of it, and that's what they like. But then some dickhead comments and says, you said it perfectly pandering the popular fan opinions and don't separate the reality TV aspect of it. This guy got one like. The first one got like a bunch of likes, a couple comments. This dickhead got one.

You don't listen to us. You have no idea what's going on. At least Rick listened to us. And that's something that maybe we can look at a little differently and be like, all right, cool, whatever. So thanks, Rick. I like those. Those are good. And they were constructive. And like you said, and I think it's a good thing to note once again, it's like, for the people that want to say something such as Rick and then give us a listen, like, that makes sense. Like if you're looking to escape and you want like the reality part, like we break this down from like a real person standpoint. That's not your thing. That's cool. I appreciate the honest, like, attempt.

Yeah, and maybe we'll hook them again. Yeah, who knows. Who knows? But yeah, I appreciate that. That's not a bad. That is like a rosy thing, as you said. Yeah. All right.

So here's mine. So I'm going to start off with my thorn. I always like to get the thorn out of the way and then bring it back with a little rosy action. So here's my thorn. And this comes from TikTok. Not going to read the name. But guys who talk about women are weird.

Gay, not gay. This is weird. Beotch vibes. Oh, we're Biotchis now. Fuck, yeah. I'm out of the list. I actually like that. Yeah, you biotch.

Yeah, I like that. Maybe that's another rosy thing because I'll take Biotch. I'll take Biotch. You know, we're talking about a TV show. It's a TV show that we enjoy to watch. We enjoy talking about it with each other. And now we just record ourselves talking about it with each other.

So, you know what? A couple of biotches. We'll be a couple of biotches. You're not going to scare us biotches away. For my rose, this is a good rose. And the caption was great. So this one comes from iTunes. We've gotten a lot of iTunes reviews lately, which I love because they're usually more

in depth than like, if people don't like us, at least they explain why. And they clearly listen because it's on iTunes. But this person loves us. And this is a five-star review from Laurie Cromy. And the caption reads, The Bravo Husbands we all need and deserve in all caps. Oh my God. Look, I've tried to talk to my own husband about the housewives.

And to his credit, he has tried to feign interest. So trust me, when I tell you, he is perfectly a-okay with me having my Bravo husbands by proxy instead. We just don't have that many straight male perspectives out in this medium. So I love getting these fresh takes. Side note. Love it when you guys drop in sports chatter Because it feeds me some good lines

Whilst my husband watches sports He may have given up on connecting over the housewives But thank you for making me sound smart While talking sports bra bros There's a lot to unpack here I love it I mean honestly I think her husband's gonna be like

What the fuck did she just like She's gonna walk in and make a comment about Baseball or football or whatever he might be watching And it's gonna be like so on point And like so niche because we get on weird tangents here, and he's going to be like, who are you talking to? It's funny, because this is not the first time I've heard or read from either a comment or review, like, from people that don't really watch football, and during, like, the

playoff run, whoever their spouse was or friend was, was watching, like, the birds play, and they would drop a little dime in there and just say, like, one liners, and everybody in the room, I guess, was like, what? And they were like, yeah, and they walk away. They would say, like, thanks, bro, so, look, we're happy to give you some little sports tidbits here and there. Use them as you will. You don't have to watch sports,

but if you can shock and awesome people with some good one-liners, we fucking love that. Yeah, we'll support that all day. Yeah, and we'll be your husbands. We'll be all your bra-brough husbands. Yeah, all the bra-brough husbands. By proxy only.

Yeah, by proxy only. All right, we're married. Don't be gross. That takes us to the news, and we're going to kind of expedite this situation just because we have a reunion episode. Reunion episodes usually take a little. bit longer got a lot to unpack so uh so up first um is something that i never thought i would i would

hear or read or say but uh m and m is contesting the trademark of reasonably shady claiming that he and slim shady and just shady is his trademark to own he has been shady has been named one of the greatest rappers of all time he feels that their podcast would damage his brand yeah i mean i I think it's just like, I don't think he knows who, Giselle and Robin are. Oh, no shot. I know stretch of the imagination. He, I guess he has the trademark on Shady. So anytime that somebody tries to trademark something with the word Shady in it, he or his lawyers, I guess, get some sort of notification.

And he's opposing it because he just doesn't want anything near Shade. This is the only thing I can think of it. Like I said, I don't think he knows who they are. Doesn't care probably. But I think he just doesn't want anything remotely close to the word Shady. But then, so here's where I have a question. So, LaShawn McCoy, a.k.a. Shady.

Shady. Is that cool? Yeah. I'm just saying. Yeah, I think it's, if LaShawn McCoy tried to sell merchandise that said shady on it, that would be a problem. Okay. All right. There's, like, weird, like, legal lines to it, but I just really think it's funny to see Eminem pop up.

And it was, Colleen was watching something the other day. It was on TikTok, and I saw Eminem pop up. up, and then I looked at the other side of the screen, and it was Giselle and Robin, and I got so excited. And I didn't say anything because I wanted to find it myself. I'm like, I got to look into this. And then I found that. I'm like, oh, that's kind of dumb. But it's still really funny. And then up next,

back in Beverly Hills, we talked last week a little bit that we're both actually getting excited for round two. Yeah. And we're getting ready to get back into it. They started filming recently. So Rina was quoted in an interview saying that she believes that it's going to be boring without her. Now, what are your thoughts? I think it's going to, obviously, it's going to be different, but boring is, I don't know.

I mean, she forced so much dumb shit that maybe in her mind she thinks it's going to be boring without her. But I think that's just who Vrin is. She thinks that everything's boring without her, probably. I don't know if she's necessarily wrong, because we've talked about it before, how all the dynamics are going to change. And you've got Kyle, like, kind of kissing up to Sutton and Garcel. What's Erica going to do? Is she just going to be quiet the whole season? She can't talk about her legal problems.

I don't really know what's going to happen. The show could be boring. That's the thing. But it's not going to be boring because Renna's not there. It might just be boring because there's not a lot going on. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that Renna's the catalyst for whether or not it's going to be entertaining. I think it will.

I think that it's going to be more entertaining to not have to rely on just, like, forced shit all the time. Yeah. But I do think that after, like, two episodes, we're going to be. going to know how it's going to go. I think so, so. I think we'll be like, oh, shit. Or, yay, this looks good. Yeah, I can see that happening. But, I mean, if it's 25 episodes long again, what is that? Oh, man, that's a long. Yeah, it's a good point. It's a good point. And then the last thing I want to get into,

we saw a video pop up on Instagram, on Twitter, on TikTok, you name it, in the Bravo world. It was everywhere. Joe Gorga walks up to Joe Judice, who, you know, I haven't seen in forever. I didn't even recognize them. I didn't either. I didn't either. I was like, who is this man? And then, you know, very quickly realized who it was. And it's like this sentimental moment where they seemingly are cool. And like the last time I saw any clip of Joe Judice, it was him and Joe Gorga getting into a physical fight. Yeah.

Where he like, Joe Gorga bumrushes him and then they like fucking like fall on the floor. They're hitting each other, whatever. So this moment, like, he walks up and like he's touching his face and they like seem to have been like cool. And Joe's caption was like, oh, we just both randomly walked into the. this bar in the Bahamas and like he was just there and like thank God someone was filming to capture this yeah I mean it's all bullshit it's bullshit because here's what then happened after the fact Gia Teresa's daughter comments on it saying this is comical that you would even try to do this like clearly to look good on Instagram you want it to look good for the fans whatever like

this is clearly a setup you're like Mr. Opportunistic you're just going to do anything you can to get in everyone's good favor. His response to that was identical to Melissa's response to that. Well, Melissa responded. Did Melissa respond first? And deleted. Well, no. And then Joe

responded in the exact same way. Oh, I thought they were both there subsequently. No. Okay. Regardless, clearly, one person commenting for both people, which is a really shitty look, the video as a whole is a shitty look because he looks like directly at the camera. He's

such in Joe's face and he makes eye contact with us, the viewers at home. My man, if this is a spontaneous spur of the moment, you shouldn't know where the camera is. And if this is an act in which you're trying to regain good favor with us, the audience, fucking do a better job acting. And that's the thing is like, and when Gia commented, and here's, there was like outrage on Twitter from Bravo fans saying, like, Gia has no place to be commenting, like, get the fuck out. She's the opportunistic one And they weren't defending Joe by any means

But they were saying that Gia shouldn't be stepping in and doing this First off, it's her family I think she can do that We saw she got a fucking confessional tonight She's had multiple over the past couple of seasons You see it happen and you're like What the hell is going on? I don't understand why everybody's like outraged

That the 21 year old Teresa Judeyce's daughter Is commenting on an Instagram where her uncle Daughter Where her uncle and her father are embracing, like she knows, she probably talks, she says she talks to her dad, she probably talked to her dad, knows that it only happened for like three or four minutes. Joe uses it for publicity for whatever fucking twisted reason. The whole thing was messed up. It didn't really make any sense. And yeah, Melissa commented something like, keep the hate out of your

heart, among other things, and then deleted it, and then Joe popped up. And the reason for that was supposedly Joe had Melissa's phone in his hand, didn't realize whose phone it was in his hand and just started commenting, then realized that it was from Melissa's account, so he copied and pasted it onto his Instagram, and the whole thing was just all screwed up. It just made no sense. And of course, it was like a calm response from them too. Like, come on, Gia, like, it's just family. Like, you got to keep the hate out of your heart. Like, no, you're playing this up for the cameras because you want some weird goodwill from somewhere. The whole thing is just fucked up. And I'm kind of tired of watching it. And I get it. Like, they do need to kind of move.

I know it's going to be the focal point of the season, and we're going to get into it. But I think we might grow tired of it pretty quickly. If it wasn't for the newbies like Danielle coming on strong and maybe a couple of the other storylines, I think we would probably be tired of the season pretty quickly. Yeah, no, I 100% agree with the Gia thing. It's funny you said that. And I needed to be checked a little bit because I found myself like, why is she talking? Like, where's her role in this?

And then Dev very quickly was like, what if that was your family? I was like, great fucking point. Yeah. I would do the same thing. And so, you know, I've switched sides, and it makes total sense. Like, if someone was talking shit about my mom or using my father for publicity on Instagram, like, I would definitely clap back immediately. And we see it tonight, too, with Gia and Gabriela sitting there.

And you very rarely even see Gabriella. Yeah, she doesn't go on the camera. She doesn't go on camera very often. But what she does, she does something, like, kind of of importance. And she backed everything up. So, like, I, again, kind of siding with Teresa on this one. Oh, boy, here we go. I'm going to be pissed about it, but...

And let me just say this as black and white as I can. Because even in a video that we posted last week on TikTok, where we make it very clear that this is an objective stance in which we aren't standing for anybody, we're just giving you the facts. People still yelled at us for being on Teresa's side. Like, I don't know how else to frame it in which we don't get yelled at.

So I just have now kind of accepted the fact that we are just going to get yelled at. that regardless of what take we have. So it is what it is. Jersey's a little tumultuous, but let's jump right into this garbage fire. We pick up right where we left off last week. We're still at the pool party, or I guess the Mutz party. Mutz party.

And Teresa and Melissa are still kind of going back and forth. Now, what I didn't expect that, I mean, I knew it was going to happen because of scenes from next week. But Teresa eventually extends an offer for Melissa to be in the wedding

saying do you want it was funny how she did it you want to be in the wedding you can be in the wedding if you want to be in the wedding I thought it was like her calling the bluff though oh I don't think look I don't I don't think that she I'm still going to have a really hard time

not thinking of Teresa in like a maniacal like strategical way you know what I mean and I'm going to try my best to look at this objectively the whole time with that like keeping that always like in the back of my head and that's what's funny like with all the commenters and shit they're like You guys don't know Teresa.

Like, yeah, we fucking do. You listen to our shit about her last year. We were not nice about it. But I went on a rant about it already a couple weeks ago. Like, are we now at a point where, like, when someone's trying to affect change in their life, we're just immediately like, nope. You know Teresa from back then. Like, fuck that. She's full of shit.

You can take it all with a grain of salt and wait until she kind of pans out and see where it goes. But don't just fucking keep throwing them under. to the bus. And then people keep talking shit about Louis. And look, he goes to dinner and we'll get their way later. But like, after getting into it with Joe, he then talks to Joe, like, dude, your sister loves you. Let's figure this out. So I'm getting so confused, reading comments, reading what people are saying about Louis and Teresa, and then watching this shit on TV, I understand what happened to both of them in the past. I understand what they stood for in the past. I know that there's a lot of shit out there. I'm not dumb. I'm not blunt. I'm not.

to that shit. However, you're not that dumb. Thank you. I'm not that dumb. However, however, however, when can we let off of this fucking rant that like they both suck? Can we just like let it play out? And maybe they do suck. Maybe they do. But maybe just fucking maybe they are changing for the better. And instead of being able to like post on your fucking Instagram all the time, your inspirational quotes about changing and bettering your life and then actually seeing happen on TV instead of shitting on it fucking like let it happen and if they fuck it up then you can bury it yeah well then you can double bury it but I do think that has something to do with what we just talked about during the Rosen Thorne thing the people that we see bitching about it saying like

oh no this is Teresa it's always been Teresa there's no way that she's ever going to change are the people that are watching it is like a like a drama scripted TV show like a soap opera like when I watch an actual scripted TV show and somebody's changing in the show I always have in the back my mind's like, oh, I don't fucking trust that person. That's not going to work out well. But it's a scripted TV show. So I always think that they have me on edge. So I think that a lot of people are stuck in those ways and they're having a hard time looking

at this. Like, oh, that's a fucking real human being. She's going through some shit. Now she has a husband who loves and supports her. It seems like her family loves and supports her with her new husband. She might just actually be happy and doesn't want to project the unhappiness and the toxicity in the world onto other people anymore. Is that fucking, like, bizarre?

Look, are we the people that everybody deserve? We're the braw husbands that everybody deserves. By proxy. By proxy. First and foremost, I'm going to post this whole thing to TikTok. I can promise you that. We're going to get fucking crucified. Bring it on.

I don't get to shit. I could give a fuck. But anyway, back to the episode. Sorry for the tirade. But obviously, Melissa, and I think anybody, would have been like, yeah, no, I'm good. Like, we can make up, I'll give you a hug. Like, we can move past this.

But, like, it is kind of, like, inviting yourself to somebody's party almost. Like, I don't think that I would be, like... That's why I thought she was calling her bluff. Because I'm like, ah, she's not going to say yes. No, I don't think... I think to, like, save face, you almost can't say yes. But, like, it is an opportunity to kind of move forward, hopefully, you would think. But I could tell, at least what I was watching.

Melissa seemed full of shit when she was responding like she didn't seem genuine with it I think she was more just like all right let's get past this like yeah okay let's hug but like I'm not I'm we're not okay still I don't know I really think that she's like

afraid of Joe in some way because when you see her talking to Danielle a little bit later she says you know I've tried to get Joe to do this I you can only try so many times with one person like he's not going to budge this is what he wants to do I think that now she's like

yeah I guess like I can be cool with you Teresa, but at the end of the day, if Joe's still not cool with you, I'm not going to be cool with you. I will stop it in the middle of this mutts party to just kind of squash it. But in reality, I'm not really done. I'm fucking no, dude. I'm not a million. I'm not either.

Muts. Muts. Muts. Muts. Muts. I'm not making cheese with you ever. Muts. Joe and his Mutsarlla sticks.

Let's move on. We're getting stuck. In the Muts. In the Muts. Stuck in the Muts. This episode is going to be called Stuck in the Muts. We have a different dynamic in the Catania household. Oh, yeah.

And we finally get to see Pauly and Frank in the same room. And I haven't seen this yet. And I've been wondering what their dynamic is. But do you agree that Paul looks like Buzz Lightyear a little bit? A little bit, yeah. I thought so. Yeah. Do you believe that Frank looks a little bit like Mr. Potato?

Absolutely. Just a little bit. So I thought that that was first. It's cute. I think it's a great jumping off point for two dudes to, like, razz each other a little bit. If they make the same jokes all the time, like, oh, I couldn't park my spaceship here or, you know, some insert Mr. Potato Head joke here, that might get a little annoying. And that's a little weird to watch two grown men make the same joke over and over again because that's what they bond over. But we talked about it a couple weeks ago and last week, honestly, about how Frank just needs to kind of chill out and let this happen.

After tonight, I'm actually feeling completely different. Okay, I'm funny you said that. I think it's because I like Frank so much, but like... I do too, but I don't want to cut you. No, no, yeah. It's really just like, we talked about how Frank just needs to let things develop. It's a new dynamic. You know, obviously, Polly needs to get, make sure that his relationship's secure.

And then, you know, obviously embrace the rest of the family with your kids, Frank. And it seems like now Frank is completely fine with that. He's open. He just wants to, he just wants it to work, like, right away. And instead of Polly, like, kind of taking his time, I'm getting the, the sense that he's not doing anything like he's not trying at all with frank and other than that like little toy story interaction he's not doing anything else and he's looking at dolores he made that weird comment about sending a woman to do a man's job like yeah that's i don't know like i there's a

whole like old school man mentality bullshit that it's timed out nobody fucking talks like that anymore just kind of keep that shit to yourself but at the end of the day you have to make it work because this is, you know, if you want to marry Dolores, this is the father of her children. Correct. So, fucking, just make a little bit of an effort. Yeah, Frank might be a little annoying and he might want to, like, poke around

and, like, try to invite you out all the time, and you can deny them a little bit, but just make some sort of effort. Don't just stand there and be like, nah, like, I'm with Dolores, like, I don't have anything to do with you. I think that they're both right on a couple things. I think they're both wrong on a couple things.

I think that Paul's stance is not wrong. I think where he's coming from and which, like, look, man, this is my girlfriend now. Like, I'm taking care of her. We have a relationship. I don't want this to be a thruple. Like, that's not how this is going to go.

On Frank's side, this is how they've lived their entire life, you know, the majority of it at least. And, like, we're talking about children, too. Like, their children are used to this dynamic as well. Like, there's just, there's a lot that goes into it that I think Paul should be more present of. and, like, more aware of where I get that, you know, things may change now and you might

want to do things differently. That's okay, Paul. That is okay. You also need to respect the fact that, you know, Frank can't just be shut out because you come into the picture because that's not how it's been. There needs to be a middle ground here. What's not going to help is, like you said, the comment, like, don't send a woman to do a man's job.

When Frank's like, look, I texted Dolores to, like, pass it along to you. Frank didn't have your fucking number. guy like that's the middle person so he went to dolores to try to get you guys to come together and just be amicable and then see where it goes from there but it feels to me like paul's trying to push the fact like frank needs to come to me frank's going to do all of the work here because he needs like this is his problem to fix it's not my problem he needs to get the fuck out i think dolores is the key to the whole situation if she could like she doesn't she She doesn't, I don't think she does anything.

She doesn't, but I think she's in a really weird place because I think that part of her respects, obviously, Paul, and part of her respects Frank. I think that she wants both. Here's the thing is she's set boundaries with Frank, right? She says, he has a knock, you can't just show up unannounced. Like, his kids live there. But yeah, I get it. Like, don't show up on announced. Make sure you don't walk into the house.

Like, you don't know what's going on. Correct. I agree with that. But she doesn't seem to be extending the same sort of, I don't want to call the boundaries, but like pleasantries. or kind of like ground rules with Pauli, where she can be like, look, like, you know, Frank's going to be here a lot. Like, I know, I'm not asking you to be the best friends of them,

but, like, be nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, if he wants to see his kids or he wants to come over, like, you know, have a good conversation with him. Like, that's really all you need. And I feel like if Dolores could just do that with Paul, and maybe he's a little more accepting of Frank.

And then the trying, it's, you know, it's not a throttle. But it's a bit of a triangle that you're going to have to live with the rest of your life. Anyway, so, like, just make it easy. And look, I like Paul. I do. Yeah. But tonight to me felt like marking my territory. This is my house.

This is my girlfriend. I feel like he's already done that. Like, well, you don't have to do that. I know. And that bugs the shit out of me when, like, dudes get all, like, tough. Like, this is my house. This is my girlfriend. Like, you're knocking a blah blah.

Look, Frank's not romantically interested in Dolores. No. Okay. Like, give him some space. Give him some. Grace. I was trying to think of a third worm. Third worm.

The third word that ride with grace. Earthworm Jim. Give him some space. Give him some grace. And invite him over to your place. No, I don't know if I'm not. I like that. Yeah, invite him over to your place.

That's her pad, yeah. But we get a quick clip of your girl, Jackie, Goldschneider. She'd become my girl. Because I don't like her, so she's not your girl. So. They're sitting down at lunch. It's Jackie, Marge, and Melissa. And if you remember from episode one, when Danielle walked into the house, or sorry,

when Jackie walked into the house, she up and down Danielle pretty hard. Oh, yeah. She, like, checked out her outfit, and, like, clearly it was not a fan of it. So they sit down. It's the first thing that's brought up, and Jackie's like, well, I'll tell you why. Because her outfit was an absolute train wreck and blah, blah, blah, blah. And starts going off. And look, I respect the hustle.

I understand what she's doing When Melissa said Daniel told me that you looked her up and down And judged her completely Jackie said well I never do that But I did do that And it's like well do you never do it Or it sounds like you do it all the time

You're pretty well seasoned Don't believe you I will say I didn't notice this the first go around But they did show the clip I like Danielle a lot But she is dressed like it's 2007 I have no issue with the outfit

The short white shorts And, you know, the women that are listening right now, they're going to agree with me. I'm telling you. I know fashion. Are you fucking, you're going to make that claim? Oh, God, get them. Everybody's going to agree with me. Hey, all y'all, get them.

She was wearing the, like, arrow pastel short. Whatever. What do you mean, whatever? Who gives a shit? All right, you want to walk around on, like, the NBA draft in 2005 in those big oversized suits? No, but I. No, a nice teard fit. I would look fantastic in Aeropostal white short shorts.

If you got me a little pair of white shorts. For like the men's side of it, you're talking about the, you would look in women shorts? I would. I would look fantastic. We're going to have to make a bet on this one, and the loser is going to have to wear small women's shorts. Done and done. You name your terms, sir. Don't threaten me with a good time.

But the one thing I'll say on Jackie's behalf is she does seem to be making progress with her eating disorder. She looked great, which is really nice to see that she's making progress there, because Because regardless of how we feel about people on these shows, we want them to all be safe, happy, and healthy. Yes. Now, Marge says that Jen Aden's on a spiral. Okay. And fails to mention anything that she said on her.

Right. The fact that she was sitting there gaslighting the absolute shit out of Jen Afraid. Is Jen Aiden off the fucking rails? Sure. She just, like, she just can't stop talking sometimes. Like, I wish that at the pool party, and everything like popped off and then they were settling down

and she's talking to Teresa about where she's like, just stick me in the fucking bleachers. That's funny. Don't then go over to the table full of women that aren't cool with you right now and then repeat that. Yeah, I told her to put me in the bleachers.

Dude, shut up. Shut up. It's not funny to them. It was a good one-liner. Who's more of fault there? Like, are you team Marge or are you team Jen? I'm relatively speaking. Because the way the Marge handles things,

like she you're right like she gaslight situations wildly like crazy dude sometimes like she'll put her foot in her mouth and somebody will actually call her on it but when it's jen it just kind of seems like i don't know we're kind of seeing this team up of teresa and jen and i still want to see how it plays out marge is like a i don't know like an animal in the corner just kind of lashing out because she knows that now jen and teresa both have dirt on her so i don't really understand why she's lashing out to begin with. But Jen doesn't really, she's not very pointed when she comes back at people. She just kind of stammeres and she might have like one hit here, one hit there.

But everything in between is just nonsense. And she gets no real like help at home with Bill and she tries to talk to Bill about it. And Bill's just like fucking checked out. Dude, Bill, I just don't understand where he's even like she just wants a little support from her husband. and he's just sitting there like, well, I mean, self-reflection is something that you kind of have to look inward for. Like, yeah, no fucking shit. Here's what I think happened.

And I think I saw a different side of Bill tonight. Okay. Let's hear it. So I think that he's biting his tongue as hard as he can. I think when she's like, I'm the most self-reflective person in the group. I think he's like, no, you're fucking not. And he's sitting there like trying not to say that. And he doesn't want to say that because he doesn't want to come after his wife like that.

Then she keeps poking. And that's when he goes, well, there's a lot of people at fault here. Like, not everybody's perfect. He gives like the rah-rah coach's speech or something. Like, look, we all got to look ourselves in the mirror and get out there and do better. I think that he's sidestepping the fact that, no, she's not self-reflective. And no, I'm not going to tell you that. But no, apparently Bill Aden is a man of principle despite his.

previous affairs and he just can't tell a lie he can't just in that moment be smart enough or have enough feel to go yeah you are he doesn't even have to say yeah you are and first off it's not hard to be the most self-reflective person in that group no it's not at all i mean i'm this is fucking crazy but right now teresa judice is the most self-reflective person objectively speaking objectively i'm not including the newbies because we haven't really seen enough of like Danielle and Rachel and Rachel and everything. But when she's sitting there doing affirmations, like Marge never looks with him. She's always

correct in every situation. And she goes home and her husband just yeses her to death while she changes his shirt seven times. And he says nothing. I imagine Joe, by the way, on like a changing table. And Marge with her broken arm is like switching him out and like putting his diapers on and stuff.

Like, oh, you get some matzies sticks today, Joey? All right, boy. And then like, here's a new shirt for you, bud. And then gives him a little pat on the ass on the way out. Like, have fun at boys night. don't get too drunk but like she never reflects on fucking anything we see melissa she's i don't know what the hell's going on there so jen maybe if you just did a little self-reflection you actually would be the most reflective person just ever so slightly and then your husband wouldn't have to lie to you but i just think that bill doesn't do anything in like calming her down at all like

he could he's trying to keep the peace everywhere but all you really have to do is just be like you know what you are very self-reflective i think you could handle situations a little differently and just maybe think a little bit more about what you want to say before you say it and don't get baited in when Marge goes off the rails because she's just going to talk herself to death

like Bill's a smart guy just fucking do it I just don't think he pays attention he doesn't ever I bet you he forgets all of their names and just doesn't say anything and just sits in the corner like came up with like a wrong name

yeah the husband's in this show are fucking ridiculous they're funny as shit though they are going to lump all this the last stuff together because we just went really long with Jersey but it's hard not to So let me, like the preamble to the, like the end of this episode.

Boys night. Yeah, that's the, it's about the preamble. We already talked a little bit about the Teresa and Louis talking with the daughters or the daughters. And we did get a brief glimpse of Danielle explaining to Melissa, her relationship with her brother and how that's really strained. We see a, like, a pretty touching scene with her parents and her kids. And apparently her children are going to be geniuses because they're already going over like Jackson Pollock paintings and, like, all that of their shit. They made me feel stupid, but I did know Jackson Pollock. I knew that one.

That was the only one. I go, Jackson Pollock, nailed it, artist. But it kind of sets the tone of just, it's interesting that she can relate to that so specifically. Like, I know what this does to a family. You need to figure this shit out. The reasoning was wild. Crazy. I also, Daniel's fucking hilarious.

Well, it's also, like, the real reasoning was not the Instagram thing. That seemed to be a strong of the camera. There was obviously a lot going on. Well, it sounds to me like she was at odds with the wife. And, like, the mom's also got acts, too. Her mom also got the ax, too. Like, she's out. The dad's the only one with a relationship.

But to have somebody in the group able to speak to Melissa this genuinely, like, yo, I know how this goes. Don't let this happen. Figure it out. Trust me. It's bad. Yeah. It is interesting.

And, like, later on we get to, let's just get there, the boys dinner. Yeah. So the dudes are all sitting down. and, you know, I do love a good Jersey husband's dinner because, like, I love to hear them talking shit and razzing each other and them just laughing and going back at them instead of, like, you know, I feel like a lot of the housewives have lost the ability

to just talk some shit and, like, laugh. Right. It's like if you say anything, anything contradictory or rude, they immediately go back in battle instead of like, oh, let's laugh a little bit and, like, kind of just joke around with each other. Just some funny put-downs here. And they're funny.

And, like, you get to watch that with the guys. But it gets a little bit more serious when Joe starts talking about the Louis stuff and the Teresa stuff. And he's pretty much just talking shit about Louis. And Louis walked in, like, he was on a fucking mission, dude. Oh, yeah. He was, like, head up, like, bowed up.

And he walked in there, like, ready to fucking fight. But he didn't do that when he walked up to the table. Like, he was pretty calm. All right says hi to Joe. It says hi to everybody sits down and it just weirdly escalates out of nowhere. I didn't know what happened. Everyone seemed cool and all of a sudden. It was just Joe.

Joe just being theatrical and just like popping off because he knows the fucking cameras are there. It's so annoying. Have you noticed his vocabulary when he's like, the adjectives he uses are like the most extravagant way to say any word? I'm trying to think. I wish I had a thesaurus right now because I think he said, did he say, fuck what was the word majestic or something he just the words he uses are like it's not that high vocabulary no no not high vocabulary i'm not saying high vocabulary he just uses he uses words that are like loosely attached to the word that he's probably they just sound much bigger than what

he's trying to say like you can tell he's trying to fit in a word where he's like making it a bigger deal i think it's rehearsed honestly that's when i watch him say like he's he knows what the fucking camera is he makes sure he gets his good side He makes sure his ears are tucked under his hat, which... Hyperbole. Fucking... Hyperbole. Is that what he said?

No, that's what he's doing. I was going to say there's no chance. He knows what that means. No, I'm not saying he's... Hyperbole is when you over-exaggerate something... For the sake of exaggerate. Correct. That's what he's doing.

Yep. Okay. Wow, I just went from sounding so dumb to so smart. Thank God. I was about this. I'm proud of you. But no, he really does. It sounds like he writes down a fucking speech.

Like, Louie's going to be there tonight. I've got to go over this with Melissa. Let me make sure I get everything right. uses different words like brings out a thesaurus like you said I think he uses a loosely attached word to what he really means to say and it doesn't really

it just doesn't hit like when he pounded the table in the middle of that conversation he wasn't building up frustration and then took it out of the table it came out of nowhere it just out of nowhere it was like when he said a certain word

he did it and it's like why I'm gonna kick you in the balls right fucking now bam I gotta know it's like whoa Louie also I'm gonna break your balls Louis didn't lose his cool

Louis was pretty cool Louis's like, all right, Joe, with the theatrics, like, really? Like, we're really going to do this right now? I called them out. My favorite part of the whole thing was when Joe was, Joe was upset. You look over at Frank, and Frank goes, Joe's upset. Lou, Joe's upset. So I love the husbands.

Over and over. Like, they were just repeating things. And then you had the, I thought that, yeah, and, like, you look over and, like, John and Nate are just trying to interject themselves where they could. John hit a little bit more than Nate did. You could tell Nate was definitely uncomfortable. but it was just so funny to see them backing up in true Italian fashion in every Italian movie that I've ever seen

it's like Joey's upset like you can see him over here Joey's upset and it de-escalated somehow and it's Louis like Louis just starts talking to him like your sister loves you you got to make sure that like you love her back and you guys got to squash this and you got to do this and that

somehow it just stuck it did and Joe like it shut Joe up shockingly probably because he didn't escalate it to the point that Joe wanted it to. No, and like, when he got according to plan, brought it back down to earth and they had a normal conversation about it, Joe

responds, I don't want to get hurt again. Like, if that was genuine, okay. But for that moment to even be able to occur, you had to have somebody de-escalate the situation. Say what you want about Louis. Okay, say what you want. And yeah, he still has some moments where

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we're going to kind of like, ex-busy, this will be the Cliff Notes version, if you will. The main thing of this episode is Adriana, Marisol, Alexia. A little bit of Julia. A little bit of Julia sprinkled in there. Pretty much, I mean, the main focus is Adriana and her beef slash just feeling excluded from the group. Now, up until this point, I felt a certain way about Adriana. I didn't like love her. I didn't hate her.

I was kind of down the middle. I did. There. Yeah, and I felt bad for her until this episode. Yeah. Because as I'm watching it, look, I do not like Alexia. She stinks. Okay.

I don't like Marasol anymore. She stinks. Maracuda. But watching Adriana tried to like pander for attention and all this shit. was annoying to me. And look, I feel for her when she was saying, you know, she's lonely. She's had a tough go. Like her husband cheated on her. She's raising a kid by herself. Like, there's a lot of things that would lead to some of these insecurities. Totally understand and respect that. That's hard. But, dude, you can't have somebody fall on your ankle and end up in a goddamn

wheelchair. And then be mad when everyone's down at the water and you're like hold up in a beach chair you want to ruin everyone's day because your ankle hurts that's exactly what she wants why though it was the wild this was the wildest single person single performance episode of housewives it wasn't incredible when she was talking to the what do you even want to call her like the rage enthusiast or the rage therapist she's a healer she's a rage healer rage healer whatever go shout at the ocean another another story for a different day i'm not getting into that but what i don't want to talk about the rage therapist and my oh i thought you i thought you had a personal story about you yelling at the ocean i was like well we have to get it no there were two

things there was that and then summer house with uh talking about horoscopes and shit um two things i'm not touching on today because we don't have enough time oh no i'm touching on the horoscope thing on summer house jesus all right fine um but adriotta sitting there and telling the rage therapist that she people were just going to find her one day dead next to a dead dog and nobody's going to care and it's like whoa whoa what the fuck how did we get here i don't know after you just got excluded from your friends and like i get it like julia even put it out there you guys have been friends for 10 plus years they're not really friends honestly they're again we talked about it before they're co-workers they don't really care

for each other from the most part so who gives a shit it's tough oh ho they were bridesmaids in each other's weddings like there there is a yeah i guess there is but what's for show and what's real life but shit fades and like the other thing is I think it's hard to judge like where these friendships go while they're on the show because they're all pandering for views they're pandering for popularity and they're trying to be the main attraction on their show on their respective show so what ends up happening to these friendships and relationships is they get muddled and they get kind of wacky but I mean clearly adrian is working through some shit and projecting it in a very interesting way

Alexia is working through some shit projecting in an interesting way the fact that they can't let go of the fucking witchcraft thing dude like stop talking about it it's crazy as soon as Marisol showed up the whole fucking show like she's got to go because here's the thing is like I without Marisol I saw some glimmers

of Alexia being a good member of the show and then you know what she's okay Marisol shows up nope see you later bro bro bro bro fucking shut up enough The other, just real quick, and then you can keep going. But, like, just to prove that, we, like you said, we saw glimmers of possible reconnection between Alexia and Adriana. The minute Marisol arrives and they go back to Marisol's room, she's like, oh, my God,

I'm so glad you showed up. Adriana was coming for me. She was not remotely coming for her at all. No, but the narrative switched immediately. And it's so annoying to watch that, too. But Adriana, yeah, like playing it up and getting carried back to her room, the whole fucking wheelchair thing. Julie is sitting there being a real friend

You could just confide in her You don't need to go ruin everybody else's time Sitting on the beach Talking about how your song You thought that your song was going to heal everything I hated that I laughed at this But Alexia is saying You know

We don't have a problem with the song The song in her confessional She said, I know a hit when I hear a hit And she said, we don't have a problem with the song It's the person who sings the song That we have a problem with And like that's fucking funny And that's what delivers

The worst fucking line and I think I've ever heard in our whole time doing this. This may go down in Bravo history as the worst thing ever said by a housewife. Yeah. And it should be grounds for like some kind of repercussions. She's a friend of. Just get her off the show. Like, dude, you cannot.

You absolutely cannot compare your drunk friend falling on your foot at the beach to a life-altering car accident that almost resulted in death. It changed Frankie's life forever. It changed Alexia's life. forever and say what the fuck you want about Alexa, she's a good mother. Yeah. She works her ass off for that kid and you see it.

We've seen it on the TV. Brof bro's rule number one. Rule number one. Leave the kids out of it. The golden rule, if you will. The golden rule, especially in such a touchy subject as that in which it is such a drastic,

crazy difference in your little incident at the beach and a life-changing car accident. Like, the fact that she said that, it was almost like I was waiting for God to, like, just, like, strike her with lightning. Like, nope. Now, I got to ask you, though, because I did tell you what happened last week,

because for whatever, again, I don't know why. Maybe Bravo was trying to soften the blow. Probably. We don't really want this to be, like, a thing. We got to make it a little bit. Because this is, holy shit. We can't cut it entirely, but here's what we got. So did it help that you knew it was coming?

No, no, no, no. It didn't make a difference. No. Didn't make a difference. because, like, I knew what I was expecting, but actually hearing it and then, because what I didn't know, it was almost worse, because what I was expecting

was, like, a knockdown, drag-out fight, Alexia screaming at her and, like, all this shit's going to, like, hell in a handbasket. And then that's what she clapped back. No. No, it was a relatively mellow conversation. There was some shots being fired, but not, no one raised their voice.

Like, it was kind of even-keeled, and then all the sudden from the fucking top rope with the worst thing I've ever heard. It was crazy. I can't, I couldn't wrap my head around it. I don't think it made it better. I think it made it worse. Well, you're welcome.

Thank you so much. And that takes us to Summer House. Once again, we're going to expedite this one a little bit. Shooter thinks that we're not going to talk about the horoscope thing, but we are absolutely going to talk about the horoscope thing because I can't get the horoscope thing out of my fucking head. But anyway, we're on episode two of the summer house. And what are your thoughts?

It definitely got better, I guess. But it's still just not like the show that we want to watch. We want to watch them have fun, not kind of like squabble amongst themselves. Go to bed at midnight. Go to bed at midnight. Like, it was 4th of July weekend. They're unencumbered. They're at a house that's paid for in the fucking Hamptons.

Like, go have fun. I don't care. If you're 40 or 30 or 27, I don't want to watch Kyle do a skip it with Sam pouring a shot for herself and then then going to bed. That was the 4th of July, like, finale of that night. You know what the mainstay is, is that Kyle, and Kyle, I think, is he the oldest one there now? Yes. No, Lindsay might be. No, Lindsay's a couple years younger.

Kyle's the oldest one there, and he is up and ready to go still at midnight, one o'clock, two o'clock, whatever time. He doesn't care. He's saying it the most, Summer's supposed to. to be fun right Kyle yeah it's not fun this year everybody and you're bringing in these new people like Maya like I guess Sierra is still considered relatively new no she's not new anymore I know but I think that's because she's on so many shows but this is only her third summer and she was a friend of the first time and page you know she's always been a little bit of a bummer at night like a disappointment like trying to stay up and party like we know that it's almost that we expect it because

there's been other people yeah now that's just Kyle it's sad it is it makes me sad. And, like, I pretty much just want to, like, focus around the beach and then Lindsay, Carl, and Kyle once again. Yeah. So while we're at the beach, first off, the babe talk with Lindsay and Carl needs to go. She cheers him on when they're doing a body surf, aka pissing in the water. Could you imagine? And then he denied that he was peeing. We all know he said he was doing buddy. No, she said, were you peeing? He said, no, I was just cooling down. Oh, he did? Yeah, he was definitely, I see, because that, you all know that boo. brought me to another, oh, I would just admit it.

That's what I was going to ask you. How far do you go to pee in the ocean? Like, where are you going knees? You go on waist. You go on nips? Waste. Yeah, I do wait. What happens when you get, have you ever done it where you think you're waist deep,

then the wave goes out? And you're actually knee deep and you're just pissing your pants. What I'll usually do is if I feel like that's going to happen, and this is really good content, I will lean forward and then, like, do like, sort of like a swimming motion with like. A swimy motion. Yeah, so that way I'm like face. down so that way you can still keep going regardless of the depth okay all right so you do a little

swim in your own feet cool um anyway the only sterile and i like the taste so the first thing to talk about the horoscope thing i don't know why you have to do this to me i have to do this because i am one that actually usually like backs up like the healers and the shaman's and like all that stuff i'm like i want to see that this conversation literally made my skin crawl this man, objectively speaking, this beautiful man. Nice. I mean, come on. Yeah, he's good looking. Come on. He walks up.

We don't know him. We don't know him from Adam. We have no idea what he's like. Is he a good dude? Is he a bad dude? He tells her that he's a cancer. And she is so fucking rude to him. And I was just blown away. And we heard her little rant about like she's a, first of all, if you're a sign, if you do like choose to live that life, that's fine. Do your thing. I don't give a shit. I didn't know there's like 15 different. different ones. I could be a Libra Virgo and a cancer, depending on which

moon is rising and falling in the sunset. I don't know what the fucking rules are, but something to do with Gatorade. Sure. For her to like get up in arms and angry at this man for being a cancer because her shitty ex-boyfriend was a cancer

is ridiculous. It was so like, legit. Back of my neck was like, my hair was standing like, why are we doing this? Why are you shutting this man down? Because he was born on a certain well I'm happy she shut him down to save him a life of that

bullshit okay because like here's the thing is he was even in the midst of that even in just pretty much just getting bitch slapped because he was born in fucking July or whatever the fucking dumb I don't care he gets slapped because he was born in a certain month

and he's still like kind of playing it off and being fun well he's trying to flirt still because I can't I don't think that he thinks. He's like, there's no way that she could be this mad at me for being born. God. Like, that's probably where his heads out. Like, oh, this is a fun.

We're just kind of like ribbing each other a little bit. Like, she's going to come around. And then she's like, thanks, bye. And I was like, what the? And she goes, like, after she was talking about this guy, too, because they met last week because he's one of Chris's friends. And what's her stipulations for a good, uh, good, um, significant other is I'm shallow. He needs to be a model.

I don't like Gabby. No. Let me just go ahead and say that right now. No, I can firmly say, I don't like that. Yeah, I know you, as soon as I heard the signs, I was like, Shooter's going to hate this. But anyway, let's get away from that. I just need to touch on, because it pissed me off. It pissed me off a lot.

But the other thing, so the elephant in the room, as Kyle said and said it so well. And I'm curious about your stance on this. So Carl has been feeling a certain way about working a lover boy, right? He's not sure it's what he wants to do. He's saying that there's some issues with his sobriety. he's not sure he wants to be around that scene. Okay? Kyle is upset with Carl

because Carl's not doing his job. But at the same time, Kyle seems to be trying to figure it out, right? Like, he's confused as to what has happened, although he has a pretty reasonable theory. Now, what is your stance on this overall? Like, give me your... I mean, it's got to be tough to be both parties. We'll lay that out.

You have a friendship and you work together, one person owns the company, or at least owns the majority of the company, the other person kind of works for you and is thankful for his job, as Kyle said so many times, when he was unhirable. The breakdown just doesn't make any sense from Carl's point of view. It doesn't. He says that he's working 90 hours a week, and now you've got Kyle saying, I talk to my sales team all the time, and Carl's a VP of sales. They don't know what he does. I talk to a distributor in California who is saying that he's terminating our relationship. That's a That's Carl's zone. I get an email from that guy and he tags or he CCs a couple people from our

company on there. Carl's not on the email. So that means he doesn't even have Carl's email. That's his territory. How the fuck does he not have a relationship? Like that's your job if you're a VP of sales is cultivating and maintaining relationships. Correct. If you're not doing that, if your team doesn't know what you do, how are you working 90 hours a week? Do you know what that is? That's 18 hours a day in a five hour at a five day cycle so even if you're working seven so what is that like you're working seven hours a day saturday and sunday like it doesn't add up at all no one knows what you do and you feel like you're underappreciated and to kyle's point and while i hate how kyle went about it at the dinner to kyle's point he hired him when he was unhirable he was the worst employee

of all time he was showing up drunk he mentions the coke thing he was the worst fucking employee in the company and Kyle stuck by him because he's a good friend and he wants to make sure that he's okay and now Carl's going to sit here and be like I feel like I'm underappreciated and you get Danielle's dumbass who doesn't know shit about what's going on. She's just

sat there so angry and again I get it Kyle went about it the complete wrong way at the dinner so if I'm Danielle Carl's friend I would be pissed and be like dude not here not the time not the place done but don't sit there and be like he feels underappreciated and underpaid he's

fucking lucky he has a job. And I'm sure he gets paid pretty fucking well. Absolutely. Here's my thing with the whole dinner. And it goes back to the conversation that Maya and Lindsay had on the beach in which Lindsay doesn't let to get a word in. And like, when Maya's saying, like, I've never been talked to like that in my life, I'm like, that probably happened. I've seen

Lindsay do that a thousand times to people. She loses her shit and she can't like... I was partially on Lindsay's side door. Oh, no way. I was very, very, very condescending. And Lindsay was not... After Lindsay was not... After Lindsay, she kept talking over. Yeah.

No, see, we're not going to see eye to eye on this one. I just think that, I don't, you know, Maya's, I can take her a reliever. I just thought she was super condescending. She was repeating the things that Lindsay was saying in a very sarcastic tone. She did the whole bitch thing, which I always fucking hate. It's like, no, I call my friend's bitch. It's like, oh, you called her a bitch. You called her a bitch.

Let's be real. You called her a bit. That kind of irked me, but I know who Lindsay is, and I know that she's gaslighting in some way. so I didn't really like the whole conversation I didn't really enjoy it at all but we promised you we'd get here eventually and we told you to buckle up it's a reunion episode

we got lots to talk about we're two opinionated bros over here we can't fucking help ourselves but we're at the Rop reunion and I love that they because one of my biggest pet peeves with reunions is that they like tiptoe around and the first episode is like bullshit

and we don't get anything Yeah. I love that they just kicked it off with the Robin and Juan and the reasonably shady episode of Robin, like, saying what actually happened. But the one thing to note is the seating chart. I guess all of the women were confused as to, like, where they were sitting. I like that they mixed it up. I like that, you know, some people over here, some people over there. Yeah, like that Andy referred to it as a puzzle. Yeah. You guys are, at any given moment, you guys are not on good terms with each other. So it really is a puzzle. I don't know who to sit next to who. And we have. have a whole team that tries to figure that out. Oh, I do need to announce. And if you're watching us on YouTube, you see it already. But I wore Chris Bassett brought us those shirts that you saw in the beginning of the reunion with Candace on and says, not today, Satan, not today, ankles, not today, neck. And I'm wearing that shirt proudly. I had to, you know, braw it out a little bit and cut the sleeves

off. But yeah, first thing you did. First thing I did. Actually, I just flexed and they came off. But we start with Ashley. All right. Ashley is the first one on the chopping block. And Obviously, we talk about her divorce or lack thereof. And, yes, after hearing her and Michael's situation, how do you feel about that? Like, would you be comfortable knowing that your ex had a key to your house? Your ex is Michael Darby. Yeah, I mean, that definitely muddies the water when it's that guy.

So just for the sake of the kids and trying to have like a copesthetic relationship with the children's father and vice versa, I think it's okay. Now it's Michael Darby, so it's sketchy. But in the perfect world, I think it's entirely okay as long as the boundaries that are set are actually met. But again, it's Michael Darby. So it's like I keep wanting to be like, yeah, you know, that's fine. Like they are obviously going to have their father growing up and at the end of the day it is kind of his house.

But if the boundaries are there and they work, I think I'm supporting it. But again, it's Michael Darby. If time has showed us anything, you know? Yeah. Like, there's sketchy. I'm having a hard time. If sketchy shit can happen with that, man, sketchy shit happens.

Sketchy shit's definitely going to happen. But I will say, we give Andy a lot of shit on reunions. He went after them today. He was good. And he was good. I don't know if it's because this season, pretty much all of the women were on some sort of spotlight for some shitty behavior or some sketchy things going on there.

and Andy's got a lot to work through so he's got a ton of material and he doesn't like, it wasn't like Salt Lake where he has to draw it out of them. There's a lot there and they're all going to start like getting on each other immediately.

So I think he has a little bit of help and I think that goes with the cast and I think Potomac's great for reunions because they all will just chime in and start digging at each other. And they kind of do Andy's job for him in some capacity, but his questions and then immediate follow-ups

I thought were pretty good. And I know people are going to be like, oh, what is Andy? your fucking pocket now. Like, no, I think he just did a good job this time. Yeah, no, we'll give credit where credits do always. And if he wants to get in our pocket, he can get in our fucking pocket. But how about the pre-nup?

What do you mean it didn't work out? It's all that coming out. Yeah, me too. Of course he loopholes you out. What was the worst business talk? Was it Ashley talking about the pre-nop or was it Mia talking about her business? Well, neither. Here's what bugs me about Ashley.

I just got to answer flat out. Mia, Mia was worse. Mia was worse because like... I'm still fucking struggling from that one. Me too. Meas was worse because Ashley is, one, expected because Michael Darby's a fucking snake, and two, you know, she clearly just didn't read the fine print. That's all that happened there. She didn't read the stipulations.

She did not have a lawyer look over it and say, like, hey, this is going to fuck you out of all of the money. But you can't be surprised at that because earlier this season, when they were talking about the divorce, she still never learned. She didn't take, well, when she went to go get legal counsel, or at least some advice, the lawyer that she spoke with told her absolutely not. that would be a terrible move to buy a house jointly with the person you're divorcing. And she went and did it anyway. Because Michael's probably here like, no, it's fine. It's fine.

Maybe she did actually talk to a lawyer about the pre-nup. I can't imagine that Lump didn't urge her to go do it. You better go fucking make sure that you get some money out of this if it doesn't work out. And she's like, I'll have a lawyer take a look at it. Lawyer takes a look at it. I would absolutely take these things out. Let me go talk to Michael about it.

He says leave him in, so I'm going to leave him in there. Like, I just, I don't know if Ashley's not bright enough or is just, like, a walkover. But it's just, I'm, I'm just not surprised whatsoever. I'm not surprised either. I feel for her a little bit. I mean, that kind of sucks. He put up with Michael Darby for how long and, like, he don't even get a payday out of it. Like, that pulls.

But we come back to, like, a little clip of, like, do you feel sorry? And I'm glad Andy brought this up. Again, point for Andy. Yeah. for saying to Candice that she's the least accomplished out of the group. Our girl Candice had a huge year. She got her master's. She dropped an album.

She recorded a music video with fucking Trina. Like she had a massive year. Instead of just being able to like swallow her pride and just say, you know what? I apologize. Period. Move on. She has to double down because Ashley Darby is going to Ashley Darby. And she's like, at some,

point, I think that you just got to take care of you. You've got to be able to take care of yourself. Like she said that in the past. And Candace brings that up again. She still doesn't put it together. And this is what bugs me out, Ashley. It's like what you accused Candice of doing by living in a house that her

parents paid for, you're doing the same fucking thing. And you're saying that you stand alone. But dude, what's your job? What do you do? How do you make money? TikTok. I'm dead serious. I'm not trying to be an asshole here. Like, what do you do? that Candace is a recording artist, okay?

Like, she has income. For you to say that you have to stand on your own two feet financially is crazy to me, especially to Candace of all people, because she had family money? What the fuck out of here? You have family money now. Like, that's literally what you did was marry a gremlin, aka Gollum, aka the worst fucking human being on earth, because he had money. You didn't walk into a bar and see that bald-headed man and go,

god damn i need me a piece of that you did there's a fucking problem there although what's his sign oh what's his sign i'm done with it i'm moving on and we get to mea all right and i will be honest here and i know that you were a tough critic on mea i was too you much more so than me are you going soft on mea not going soft on mea but i thought her end like last two to three episodes of the season i thought she was good i thought she was making progress to the point where I'm cool with her coming back next year. Like, I think that she can continue to grow. But when we start diving into Mia's financials and her business,

one, not that surprise, too. What do you mean that your brother wrote you out of the bank account? Yeah, it was it was G's brothers, which, I mean, that's just not sure. That's not how that works. She also says that she owns 40% of the company, but she only has one seat on the board. No, no, no, no, no. Somebody else said that she had 40%. She said it's actually more.

Which would imply that you own close to half the company. I'm not surprised that I missed that because I was... She put my mind in a bottle. The whole fucking thing from start to finish was an absolute catastrophe. And I hate to say it, but the best point made the entire time was Giselle talking about embezzlement. Because it all makes sense now. But, dude, to throw out such a wild allegation... Did you not have a oh shit moment?

Mia did not lash out at all. Which is even crazier. Which means it's probably true. Let's be honestly. Allegedly, allegedly, for sure. I don't want lawyers. But for, like, it all makes sense. Like, you're spending money on very, very stupid things.

You're renovating a house that you're renting. It makes absolutely sense. So glad that they called that out. You have a house in Charlotte and another rental property in Charlotte. Why? That doesn't make any sense. It sounds like, geez brothers are like, who the fuck is Mia and why is she doing this? Like, you know the G.

is sitting there like yeah go ahead put all that money into that rental property that we don't own go ahead and do that go do this you're the CEO you better step up and do whatever the whole thing made no sense she had no idea what she was talking about i i went from feeling bad to wanting to like look up my old business textbooks just to like reiterate like the things that i learned because i feel like she deteriorated my mind i had no idea what happened in that like it seems like the longest 40 like they should have done the broad thing where they start the music and just start kind of like skipping through because when she was trying to talk and going from sentence to sentence she was contradicting herself back

and forth and back and forth and not and just making shit up but how are you not well versed on like you have you should have a story going into it no no but I know she did have a story and she forgot the story oh you think that she just blew her lines yeah interesting I think that like and Colleen said I think somebody coached her up and then fucked it up somehow she made no sense also Colleen's a big fan So if you want to be a fan club of Mia, Colleen's coming around. No, no, no, no, no.

She felt bad. No, no, no, no. I'm not a fan. You're getting there. Not even close. I'm saying that she did enough for me at the end of the year to warrant a comeback. Yeah, I actually agreed with that part.

Are you in the fan club now? I don't like her. I'm not going soft on her. I think that that was maybe the dumbest, like, two minutes of television that I had to watch. It was hard to follow for me. There's too many board members Then not enough board members Then too many board members

And then I didn't understand The voting system didn't make a lot of sense to me I don't understand whose votes She owns more than 40% of the company Then she would have more than one vote That doesn't fucking make sense But anyway I don't know

It hurt my brain too But they're now living in a penthouse In North Bethesda Which if you know Bethesda at all Like I can't imagine what that is a month So like if you're running out of money And living off your savings Maybe don't rent a penthouse

in one of the more expensive areas on the East Coast. Got to keep up the good looks. I guess. But then we get to Candace. And obviously, Candice and Chris took kind of the center stage for a vast majority of this season because of all the nonsense. And I will say before that, Giselle has offered to have sex with Andy if he is 60

and still has not had sex with me. So, you know, that's very nice of you with Giselle. We'll see how that works out. Hey, no comment. Yeah, you'd start an only fan. Uh, Patreon. Patreon.

Put it behind the paywall. We get to Candace. And immediately we bring up the allegations. And it, it grinded my gears so much when, and a lot of people don't know this, you're going to know this next Monday when the interview with Chris drops.

Chris showed us the DMs between him and Giselle. We have read them in person on his phone. We know what happened. We know it was said. We know it was not said. For her to say that him saying, if I made you feel uncomfortable, is an admission of guilt, is crazy. He said, if I made you feel uncomfortable, I'm sorry, which is acknowledging her feelings. It's not saying, hey, I made you feel uncomfortable.

I'm sorry. Saying, if I did, that wasn't my intention. That's not claiming, oh, I did something wrong. And there's a huge distinction there when it's something that's this touchy, when it's this potentially problematic. semantics are important. Very. And for her to write out of the gate, and he admitted it.

Thank God, Andy, and production, once again. They have Chris's back, and I'm really grateful for it because Andy's like, that's not really admission. And this is actually like, Andy's not playing favorites, and I can't tell, I always try to look for his favorites.

I don't think he has any favorites except for maybe Karen, I guess, who, by the way, looks like she was ready to fall asleep the whole time. Yeah, she didn't do shit. Maybe she'll take center stage, later, but whatever. Well, it's going to be her and Cherise is going to be a big thing, which I don't really care

about. I don't really care about that either. But to see Andy step in so quickly, be like, well, that's not an admission of guilt. I didn't take it like that. Let's elaborate on this. And I was thankful for it. Candice was definitely thankful for it. Giselle, not so much.

She was just kind of talking. And then you get Wendy chiming in, also saying, like, this is what you do. Yeah, and it is. And take down husbands. Like, you're known for this. If it was a one-off situation and this happened, we might give you, like, a little bit of leeway on this one. but you've done this before it's a pattern yeah and at this point we know better and we're not going

to do the same shit that we usually do we're going to call you out on it and i just don't think that joselle did anything to help her case i don't really think that we got anywhere and it sounds like next week we will get somewhere because at least the husband's come on chris will come on and it sounds like chris has a lot to say well we know what chris said yeah but we can't say Yeah, but Giselle goes on to say, like, she would apologize for calling him a sneaky link. And, you know, Candace, she's so articulate and she's so good at talking shit. And then she goes too far. And she may have said something about Giselle's uterus, which was, you know,

twice. Not warranted. But Giselle continues to, like, take this stance that she's in the right. And she says, I'll apologize for the sneaky link comment. Candice says, shove that apology up your ass. literally and you should like that's such a a cop out of what you cause this season and if you'd be like yeah I'll apologize for calling my sneaky link like I didn't mean that well by you putting that out into the universe on TV you could have ruined his career his life

if if candace wasn't ride or die for her man and didn't trust him implicitly yeah and they didn't have such a good marriage that could have fucked up so many things had she had one inkling that any of that was true of any of the shit that Giselle was talking and it goes flashes of different things of her saying shit thanks once again to production like you can't just do that

to people's lives and this is where you know people want to talk about like oh you guys forget the reality aspect of it like we have now crossed that boundary there this is reality TV and we sometimes need to remember that but these cast members need to also remember that while this is reality TV

these are real lives I thought that was actually like perfect timing too because we had multiple people on this show at the reunion talking about when cameras were rolling. Wendy brought it up about Giselle. You waited, you sat on this for how long and then cameras started rolling and you brought it up. Candace said the same thing. I've seen you multiple times in the off season, if you will. You came to my album release party. You could have told me then if it really made you feel uncomfortable and then you get Robin's dumbass chiming in.

Oh, she told me when she got in the car. Like Robin, two months ago you sat down with me and. Chris at lunch and said, yeah, she mentioned it, but, like, I didn't see it as, like, a big issue. You were backing up Kansas and Chris at that point. Now you're going to sit there and completely switch teams just to be an ass. Like, it just makes no sense. Left out the best line that she had. What was the best line that she had?

Wait, Candace are? No, Robin. Can we all agree that a married man shouldn't be alone in a room with another woman? Oh, my God. Hello. Jesus. I like that. Hello, Glass House.

I'm surprised Andy didn't say something there because Andy. Tell one that. Andy went on to the Victoria. and error thing and being like, I don't know. At this point, he didn't know that the wand shit hadn't come out yet. The reunion was taped before that. God, that would... He had no idea.

That would have hit so hard. But you cannot sit there knowing that. Because Robin knew and say anything. I know you're trying to back up your green-eyed bandit, but what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. But that is like a really good point with this is they're all

quote-unquote breaking the fourth wall. They're all talking about production. They're all talking about when the cameras are rolling. People are doing different things. Like, we talk about it all the time. Is this real? I'm not going to say it. Don't fucking say it because Eminem will sue us. Eminem will sue us. But it's, is it real or is it for the camera? Did production do this? You did it. I couldn't help it. Or did they edit it to make it look like this? Like, there's so many things that we talk about. And yeah, I'm sorry, but we can't look at it like a fictional show. These are real fucking people and there's real

repercussions to the things that they do. And it sounds like Giselle has ruined marriages before, probably for the sake of her show and her storyline and all that dumb bullshit. So I'm happy that people are calling her out on it. I'm happy that Andy's not just sitting there and playing favorites this time. I'm actually looking forward to the second round of this reunion. No, I am too. I think it's going to be good.

I think that we got off to a good start. And I, like you said, there seems to be enough this season that both reunion episodes are going to be good and you know we enjoy the season overall like i think there's there's two because the third one was going to be the robin interview oh god which was the same as salt lake was going to be the third one the jen shaw i don't think we're going to anything out of that interview no and i don't know if they're actually going to like air it like that anymore probably not um no i mean overall it was during the season there was times like fuck there's a lot of drama going on i can't keep up but you kind of get the payoff at the end because okay the

reunion is good. There's a lot going on. Most first episodes, the reunions stink. Like, they're slow. Like, we're building up to the big drop next. But this was a good episode. That takes us to the question portion of the show. And we got a lot of questions.

So we're going to take as many as we can. We can take that many because it's a reunion app. And it's already gone too long. But let's start it out here. From Miranda E. 518. Would you watch? a series of just the Jersey husbands. Love listening to you guys.

Love you too. No, I don't think there's enough there. You don't? No, it would have to be like four episodes, maybe a miniseries. Ultimate Girls Trip type type. Like, what about an ultimate dude's trip? An ultimate bro's trip. We can go.

We could go. All right, fine. I'd have to, actually, no, I wouldn't watch, actually. I would just go. Oh, I definitely cannot watch myself on a Bravo show. I wouldn't want to see how we get edited. I think we would get the shaft. yeah we would definitely get the shaft yeah the problem with bravo and these ultimate boys trips

girls trips whatever they always make them go too long like four episodes short and sweet it's fun yeah just get in get out i agree i would watch that oh counterpoint from regan adrian should the husbands get confessions and do they get too much screen time i like the husbands in jersey I feel like they get the right amount of screen time. There are other shows where I don't think that the husbands deserve any screen time, Salt Lake. I don't think they need confessionals now. Maybe, like, if it's a Chris thing,

where he has to defend himself, absolutely. If I start to see, like, Louis in a confessional and Joe, like Joe gets a lot of confessional shit, like, no, that's where it's going too far. From Amy Dubrowland, Robert and Giselle, who should get demoted? Robin. Robin.

So until, no, not even until. I think Robin, if it's those two, look, say what you want about Giselle. She's good for the show. She is good for the show, and I do kind of want to see her standing on her own without Robin. It would be an interesting dynamic to see her alone. Yeah. All right, two more, two more. From M. Kelly 630, are you team Frank or team Pauley?

You ask us to this a week ago. It would have been different. I know. Now, last week I probably would have been like neutral, Switzerland maybe. This week, I'm slightly team Frank. I just like Frank a lot. I like Frank a lot, too. I didn't love the interaction with Paul.

I think that he could have done a better job. I'm not anti-Paul by any means. I understand where he's coming from. I just thought that could have gone better. So I'm Switzerland still. I'm down the middle. Okay. Leaning towards Frank because I love Frank.

Yeah. But that does it for us. You got anything else? No. Oh, no. Well, as usual, follow us on Instagram at brav underscore bros, follow us on Twitter at brav underscore bros, and follow us on TikTok at brav bros.

Is that right? Yes. One of them doesn't have an underscore TikTok. It's just brab bros. Yes. Right. Also, we are on cameo. We just did one tonight where I was featured in my apron.

It was great. That's all that you don't need to know anymore. Fucking nightmare. Maybe I'll post it. Maybe it'll post it because it was pretty funny. But other than that, be on the lookout next Monday for our Chris Bassett interview. It is going to come right on the heels of part two of the reunion. So after you hear from him at the reunion, you'll be able to really get his take on how he felt about this season.

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