Bros & Shows - A RHONY Snoozefest in The Hamptons (RHONY Full Recap)

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

What's up Bros? We're back with RHONY and unfortunately we continue to get more of the same. The gang heads to the Hampton's and luckily Erin is prepared with the food this time. Raquel was supposed to ride with Ubah and Sai, but claims they refused to let her ride up front due to her car sickness. However the text reveals that wasn't true, and this is the kind of drama that we're dealing with this season... Ubah clearly still has an issue with Brynn and how she outed her relationship with Oliver last year. But she points that energy to take up for Sai, who is still having issues with Brynn telling Jenna she hates her. Brynn and Sai sit down to squash it, but Brynn gives a blanket apology, doesn't let Sai talk and then we get 3rd 4th and 5th parties joining the conversation so absolutely nothing gets accomplished. We get to learn a little more about Raquel and her background as an art curator and then we get a bizarre story from Rebecca about her ex boyfriend, high school boyfriend and losing her virginity. Why we haven't discussed the scientology of it all yet I have no idea. When they return to the house, Ubah lets Erin and Jessel know that she doesnt trust anyone, she's sick of people saying one thing to one person and then twisting their words to someone else. It escalates at breakfast when Ubah goes in on Brynn on behalf of Sai? Although when Sai gets to breakfast she doesn't seem all that bothered... The episode just ends there and again, we're gettin the bare minimum thus far. The drama isnt interesting and we're worried this cast refuses to just be themselves. This show is lacking authenticity and we are starting to get worried about the future... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I don't need the spotlight. Hi, I'm Karma, and yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by the one only shooting my goots. What's up, dude? You know what I thought about was, and this is just because I'm hungry, I need to start

bringing snacks to this. No. Then I realize that I can't because then I don't. I chew into the microphone, so it's a problem. You chewed gum one time when we were recording, and, like, five people were like, why is he chewing gum? This is, this is exhausting. And then I started thinking about snacks that I could have that wouldn't make a noise.

And the only thing I could think of was a gogurt. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, but then you get like Milky Voice, and I hate that more than anything. Milk voice? Yeah, yeah, it sounds like you drank a lot of, like the Patrick Mahomes kind of. You know, you get like the dairy in the back of your throat. Like, no, I don't fuck with that. That would probably piss me off more than you, like, snacking on corn nuts.

Well, whatever. I was just thinking about snacks and stuff just because I needed something to do during this boring, boring, boring show. And snacking is usually what I go to when I'm bored. Yeah, look, we talked about a little bit before we recorded. Did I think it was their worst episode yet? No. Is it good? No.

It's not great. They can't seem to find their footing. It seemed like they were trying to this episode with some things. And it felt like they were getting derailed by Uber a little bit. It's just, it's, it's too choppy. I don't know who's friends with who. I don't know if they get along with one another. I don't know if they like each other.

I don't know what the storylines are. Like, what are we going for this season? Who's talking to who? I don't know anything. I'm fully ready to just say it's a casting issue. I think they just completely swung and missed on everybody on this cast. Even Jessel? Jessel's not doing anything.

Jessel is great. Jessel is bubbly. She's fun. It's a good time when Jessel's on screen and she's doing something. But we're three episodes in right now. And the only thing that I can point to is when her and Pavitt went out on their date to a nice little, where do they go? What kind of rest of? Oh, to the bow bun place.

Oh, it's a bow on place. They were getting, bow, or no, they were getting, was it bond me or was a bow or was it? I think they were bow buns, but either way. Yeah, Mama's buns or something, something like that. Yeah, and that's really it. Like, Jessel's good. She can be part of the cast, but the rest of the cast isn't doing anything. Like, I don't know what the structure of this show is supposed to be.

Is Aaron supposed to be the middle? Is Aaron supposed to be like the lead on this? I don't think she can handle that. I don't think she has enough going on. I don't think she's sharing enough. I don't think she can handle when drama kicks off. Uba is a complete miss. I just, yeah.

What's going on? Uba's a cast because of her cousin. That's really the only thing that I can think of it. You think she's a Chanel just because of Chanel Ion? I think that's all it is. I think it's like, wow, Ion is great in Dubai, even though that first season of Dubai, stunk. She was great this year on Dubai. Maybe Uba can step it up in her second season too.

No. Uba just, she doesn't share anything. She's too secretive for a fucking reality TV show. It drives me insane that we can't talk about this guy that you're dating, that you're going to get mad at Bryn for bringing up that you're dating a guy that you're trying to hide from your reality TV show get with the program it pisses me off is what it and look and nobody's i know you said today because we talked before the show about how boring i thought it was and you said that people were a little mixed which is better than usual

yeah mixed reviews which is that that's that's the problem mixed reviews are an indicator of people are okay with it i think yeah they're fine the people that are watching it are fine with it but that's the big thing and that's the big struggle right now and you're right and That's what sucks because up until this episode, I think, everybody had some hope for Uber, that she could turn a corner or that she had an interesting enough life or an intriguing enough life to really kind of push the numbers and push us forward. And I think we're starting to realize maybe she can't do it.

And maybe a lot of this cast can't do it. And that's upsetting because, again, we want this show to be good. I see avenues where they could improve and it could, get better. But the lack of sharing is a big problem. The lack of there's no depth. How about that? There's no depth to this show. And you need depth for a successful housewife show because you need something to root for. You need a specific person to root for. You need a storyline to latch onto that has some meat on it. Because if you don't have that, what are we watching? We're just watching a bunch of non-interesting scenes about some topic that they're upset about for a little bit

that's not really that deep. That is just kind of a transplant from last season. Everything we're seeing this season is issues that began last year that weren't really problems. It's two housewives not getting along. That is the standard. That's nothing new. You need to learn how to live in that realm and be okay with having a weird friendship. With having a friendship with somebody that's built on, I kind of hate her, but we get along in person, and that's okay. I'm going to talk shit about her on the side, but face to face, we'll be fine, we'll blow up at some point, we'll get back together and be friends, something else is going to happen, remind me why I hated that person, and around and around we go.

And we like that. We like to watch that. We like to watch when there's actual stakes in the game. There does not seem to be that because it seems as though if everybody on this show decided to get up and walk away today, nobody would be that bothered by it. And that's a problem. Yeah, that's a huge problem. You're not going to cling to anybody.

You don't root for anybody like you just said. And from top to bottom, I was just going through it in my head. There's nothing salvageable here. There really isn't. Unless they have complete personality like shifts overnight or a transplant in personalities that it makes them good for reality TV, there's just nothing here. They have nothing. And it's sad to watch because it's rony.

and nobody's watching too by the way ratings guy is back guess what the lowest we've got four housewife shows on right now potomac and oc are high up in like close to 700,000 watchers which is awesome uh salt lake still not really sure why but they're around like 400 this last episode of roney was high 200,000 that is a series a series low it was a series low last week too at another series low this week so here we go nobody's watching there's nothing to dig into there's nothing to talk about i texted you right after i watch it and just said what did i just watch because it didn't feel like anything it was just it was a blur usually when we watch shows that we don't like it takes forever to get through them like OC last year it was an absolute

task to watch these episodes day in and day out to go through them because it felt like i was watching two hours of tv and i didn't know what to do because i hated everybody and they were like 54 minute episodes a lot, which I was not on board for. This was a 42 minute episode, and it felt like it went by like that. And you know why? Credits rolled, and I was like, oh, it's happened. Nothing happened at all. What are we doing?

You've got a new housewife. We know nothing about. What's up with Becky? Becky Minkoff, she's a Scientologist. Let's talk about it. How about that? Something. What did she do this episode?

Nothing. I think she could- talk about her weird virginity story. And, like, that was actually the one part of this episode. I'm like, okay, here we go. Like, this is what we want to talk about. And then they just stopped talking about it right away. And then the dinner scene's over and we go back.

And it's like, all right, we're going to get back into Sion Brin and then Uba's going to interject yourself. It's like, what is going on? There is no structure to this show at all. It is absolute chaos and not in a good way. Usually we root for chaos. This is not good chaos. This is annoying. This is boring.

I'm just kind of sad watching it. Yeah, I need manageable chaos. I need, I thrive. in that. Like, that's where we live. We want that. We want it to be chaotic, but pointed and deep to a certain, and we're talking reality TV. It doesn't have to be like extra deep, just something. It needs to be more palpable than what we're currently getting. And it's not good, man. I mean, they had an uphill battle from the jump. We tried to rally behind him last year because they were going up against the OGs and a lot of shit talk before they even came on the scene. So I'm here for that. I'm always going

to root for the underdog and be like, hey, let's give them a shot. They're getting their chance. They're not doing a whole lot with it. And it's simply because they don't want to go that deep. They don't want people to get to know them. You're not going to connect with an audience. If you don't let us get to know you, we said this before. That's what the OGs were great at. Ramona, Dorinda, Sonia, Luann. They didn't care. They did not care what you thought about them. And that's what you need for a good housewife show. It seems like they care a lot. They care way too much. they care way too much about what each other think about them for them to actually go that extra mile and they're worried about resolving it or they're not resolving it and then moving

on or you got sigh with the sci 2.0 shit which is it getting on your nerves yet because it's still pissing me off not it's not because you have uba as the spokesperson so that's pissing me off because we're not really hearing from sigh on the matter well that's i even going to a confessional and saying well you know sigh before would have been like what the fuck we're talking about what i can't even remember anybody's name god damn it we're talking about somebody not wanting to get into the car rquel rquel not wanting to get into the car which seems who gives a fuck who cares why is this a main topic of this tv show nobody gives a shit and then sye has to go to her confessional and say well you know if it was me before i would have been pissed off and actually called her out for it

but the side 2.0 i'm just going to let this slide and i'm not going to do like what what are you talking about What is this? I hate it. You don't have to get mad at it anyway. It's not that big of a deal. It was a miscommunication that you guys sorted. As soon as she got there, you figured out what happened. She said, I'll drive, implying she'll drive your car, you thought, all drive means I'm going to drive myself.

That's all. You cross wires. That's it. It's done. But it continues. And that's not fun. That's not good drama. It's so boring.

Like you're going up against the OGs on a cornerstone show. This is a pivotal show for the Bravo Network. You have to perform and you have to take notes from your predecessors. They didn't fucking care. That's why they were phenomenal. That's why they're iconic. That's why each individual New York housewife has their own big ass following because they were so fuck it.

Throw it against the wall. See what sticks. This is great. This is great TV. I want to see somebody not care. I want to see Durinda, Bluestone Manor, be fucking Durinda. because she does it so very well. I want to see Ramona be a fucking idiot

because that's what she does so well. These current cast members will not get into who they are and that is not the groundwork for a successful show, period. I do have an idea that I want to float past you that will never happen. What do you think about retiring the summer house girls, bringing them over to Roney,

keep Raquel and keep Jessel with them? And then we'll get a whole new cast at SummerHouse. And then we can just have people that we like and we know they can actually bring the drama. We've talked about that. We talked about like a Lindsay transplant, like which I'm still for. I'm just saying that bring Lindsay, bring Amanda, bring Paige, bring Sierra, throw them all in there. And then put Jessel and Raquel because I do like Raquel. She's like a small glimmer of hope, but she's a friend of.

Like that's it. Jessel can't carry a whole show of duds. She can carry a show if they're average. but these women are duds. They're just boring. They need to step it up. And yeah, I actually like that.

I think that there's something there because you have a cast that you know, a cast you can relate to, likable characters, people you're root for. And we like seeing the Summerhouse cast in New York City. That seems like a built-in pipeline.

All right, you're done on Summerhouse. Off to Roney. That makes sense to me. Lindsay, new baby, new man, you're on Roney. Boom. I would watch that. And the thing about having a great last thing.

Yeah, that's a very great glass. And this is an emergency because this show sucks. Bring her over. Get them out of here. Plug them in and see what happens. It's better than watching now. If you plug Lindsay in immediately because of who Lindsay Hubbard is, she's going to push the needle.

She will drive the show because she knows what the fuck she's doing. Love her or hate her, she will be good on that show. Yeah, that's an easy fix. Bring them over. Start bringing back people that we know. I am the first one to say, don't go the route of just plugging you. in oh geez but at this point if we're breaking glass in emergency okay fine bring somebody back to bring them the road the old card to bring them back no no no no no i'm not doing that better than

this i they need to figure out something or it's not going to last and that's a shame like if this gets paused rebooted again i don't know if it comes back they need to start looking at other cities not cleveland but other cities i know you're still rooting for cleveland i don't i don't think it's going to happen i just don't think it's going to happen i'm i'm for it'sburg Have you seen the guy on TikTok or does the Pittsburgh accent? The yins. He's a yinzer. Yeah.

No. Real Housewives of Philly? It's great. Get him over on the main line. It's fucking great TV. But whatever. Let's talk about this episode. As we know, it starts out with the drive.

And you get to find out that now we can talk about Oliver a little bit. But it's still, now I'm not interested. Now it's like, all right, like, he's got a house in Greenwich. And he's got a room for you. You're afraid to jump in. paint on or something like yeah but i know we're not going to get more out of you on this topic so like what are we talking about but i was thrilled to see the spread when we get to the hampton house i'm glad that we're making adjustments from last season you need that's all about adjusting it's all

about making moves to be better the food sucked last year with the fringles and caviar incident so you have 15 different options great move loved it but this is where we get the breakdown of rakell and she's upset she tells Aaron oh like they said that I had to sit in the back and take some dramamine and I couldn't drive with them when we get like we'll just sort this out now so we don't have to talk about it later when we get the breakdown of what happened we get the text and I'm actually glad here's the thing the side 2.0 could work I'm here for a sigh that wants to change if the rest of the cast was bringing it because now you have room to be like all right

did you actually change let's see what size all about but instead sigh who normally would have pushed the issue, and that may have been more entertaining, is now choosing peace and just breaks out the text and goes, look, I said, come with us, we're leaving at 930, didn't hear back from her. And that was after this I'll drive debacle where it's like, okay, you thought she meant something else. The minute Raquel gets there, it's sorted. There is no reason to cause a scene anymore, and yet people continue to bring it up. It's going to, this is going to be painful but let's break it down okay i don't know why we're doing this but we have to do i just wanted to do it so they never actually said sigh and uba never actually said we're sitting in the

front seat we're not going to move you have to sit in the backseat obviously rakel just kind of made that up which whatever weird weird no not whatever weird move weird weird weird move weird weird move told erin who you know is going to tell fucking everybody that is her M.O. With some stank on it. Anytime. Yeah. She's definitely going to do it like sarcastically.

I had a question mark at the end and then kind of wait with a little stank face just like, hey, what do you think about that? Pretty crazy, huh? So pretty stupid. And yeah, nothing comes of it. She never actually said that. Raquel ends up driving herself. Seems like she was okay.

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Oh, this is it, the day you finally ask for that big promotion. You're in front of your mirror with your Starbucks coffee. Be confident, assertive, remember eye contact, but also remember to blink. Smile, but not too much, that's weird. What if you aren't any good at your job? What if they dim out you instead? Okay, don't be silly, you're smart,

You're driven. You're going to be late if you keep talking to the mirror. This promotion is yours. Go get him. Starbucks. It's never just coffee. We find out that Uber, and we knew this last week, she still has an issue with Bryn,

going back to last year with the Mr. Connecticut thing, still has a major problem with it. And it transcends Uber now. Now she's apparently against the entire group. But before we get to all of that, we do get to sit down with Bryn inside. And this is Bryn's M.O. Because she immediately starts the conversation with, look, I'm sorry for everything I've done to hurt you.

Non-specific, doesn't point out, like, if you're going to apologize, have something to apologize for. For starters, say, hey, I'm sorry for X, Y, and Z. Not, hey, I'm sorry for everything that I've done. That's a blanket statement. That means nothing to me. If somebody apologizes to me with that, I'm saying, okay, you're not sorry at all. You don't even know what you did wrong. side 2.0, again, I will give her credit here, is handling this fairly well because she says to her,

hey, you haven't heard my side yet. I want you to hear what I have to say, and then we can move on. Bryn doesn't want to. She's very much the person that's like, we're good now, right? Thumbs up. Okay, cool. No, because you have to hear the other side of things. And this is where Bryn gets frustrating for me, if you're going to dish it out. And she does. And she knows she does. She likes being that person she likes to stir the pot she talks about liking to stir the pot if you're going to be that person you have to be able to sit down and hear the ramifications or you can just blow it all up and say fuck you i'm not listening to this and walk away instead you take the middle ground approach of no no we're cool we're cool even though i still haven't heard you talk i'm going to give you a forced

hug in the kitchen after now everybody's getting involved well that's getting involved well that's my whole complaint about this show, too. We don't really get those resolves, those resolutions sitting down with just one-on-one. Aaron is always involved. It's Aaron. Aaron walks over. Aaron is not involved at all. You don't need to go mediate. You don't need to do anything. Bryn starts off the conversation, like you said, basically by saying, hey, I just want to say this up front. Like, I want to be good friends with you. I want to be cool with you. Okay, that's okay. That part's fine. But then she follows it up with immediately. We should be able to handle this very quickly. Why? Based on what? Based on what? And bringing Jenna into it is fine because Jenna's involved. Jenna's the one who was or Bryn told Jenna what Cy had said and then started the whole thing. And that's why Cy's pissed off because you broke confidence and probably changed some words around and maybe paraphrase a little bit.

So bringing Jenna into it is fine by theory. But bringing Jenna into anything never solves anything because she doesn't fucking commit. I liked her move here. I thought it was shady intentionally. Only because she goes, I don't remember. To be involved. She doesn't want to be involved. She does not want to deal with it.

And that's my problem with Jenna, too. I've got a problem with everybody on this cast. So this is just what we're going to do. Aaron coming over, there's my problem right then and there. You're not involved. You're just going to dilute the situation even more. Nobody's going to know what the fuck is going on. You've got Bryn acting like a four-year-old and leaning back and just talking over people,

putting her hands over her eyes, talking like, oh, yeah, I don't need to hear any more of this. That's not what happened. Of course, blah, blah, blah, blah. like her right stop like just sit there and listen let sigh get through all of this jenna's not helping erin is certainly not helping and then like you said yeah it ends with a little forced hug in the kitchen nothing actually happened no that that was like a brin that that is that that is exoneration for brin a forced hug from brin means that brin is now cool if si people laugh yeah yeah but sigh has more to say on the matter i didn't mind jenna's response if it wasn't intentional

Like, if that was shade where she's like, oh, I don't remember, but she's planting seeds. That would have been great. I think you're right. I don't think that was intentional. I think you're giving her too much credit, yeah. I'm not. I'm saying if it was. I'm saying, I'm saying if.

I'm saying it definitely was not. I'm saying if, but. You're still hoping that she turns into something. I'm saying if, motherfucker. But should we get to the gift bags? This was funny. This was actually funny. Yeah.

This is where Jessel gets a Botego bag. She's about to open it up and flashback to last year. the lingerie disaster where she got some lingerie wasn't happy with it. Said she looked like a Christmas tree. Jenna actually gives her a Christmas tree costume. That was good. That was great. And gave her the lingerie too.

Great move. That is a nice move. That's a good friend move. You made the joke, but you also got her something. So she's not left out. And I actually messaged Aaron, and I'm curious if she's gotten back to us. What the fuck was the murder painting in her child's bedroom? That's a good question.

what was that that's going to shape her children's lives why is that in there why is there a picture of a of a kid bleeding out on the floor and then i thought did one of the kids draw it and i have so many questions yeah i know that's like you see that in horror movies is that what abe spent all the bitcoin on that's funny that this is what we got from bitcoin it's uh it's an edgy artist that Murder painting. He paints children murdered, apparently. That was, that's what all I could focus on for like a large portion of this episode was, what was that painting and why are we not talking about it more?

I hope we get an answer. But we get to dinner. And that's the thing, dude. We're already like almost through, which is shocking. That's what I'm saying. This is Shatica was over in a blink. And I don't know how fast. But we get to the dinner.

And we get to find out about more about Raquel, which is very interesting, her coming up as an art. curator as a person of color, her struggle with people trying to, or people not selling to her and her being able to still put together this great portfolio that people wanted. She started showing it in museums and other galleries. And then she became a curator and putting together art collections for people. Great. That's super fucking interesting. Super cool.

She is awesome. Yeah. So let's dive into that more. Let's talk about her more. Or let's press Rebecca Minkoff. Hey, Scientologist. Just what the fuck's going on with that? Like, there's so much more here.

And that's on level. Let's talk. Let's talk Thetons. Like, there's stuff here, guys, but nobody wants to do it. And I don't get why. Rebecca, coming on this show when you're on the chopper to the Hamptons. And they're saying, hey, how do we approach this? Which is the wrong move.

I've thought about this now. That is the wrong move. That is a non-housewife move. You do not ask up front, how do we handle this in the media. you just do whatever the fuck You just handle it You just handle it You start talking about it on camera

And see what her reaction is That creates a good story And that creates a little bit of friction Between the two Instead you're going to be nice and polite And say what do we say to the media She was already on edge about it She her answer to that question

Was like oh yeah yeah Yeah like you don't get about it I'm going to give you very vague answers here No push her Push her into the Like I don't like it We praise them last year for resolving things, and I'm going to say this almost every episode, praise them last year for

resolving things very quickly. We thought it was a nice little change up. It's not. It's just not. I don't like their approach anymore. They're too polite. It needs to be there. It needs to be a middle ground here where you're not afraid to push.

It's on a T, guys. Like, it's right there. She's a Scientologist. Let's talk about it. Please, she doesn't want to talk about it. Even better. Poken annoy her. Perfect.

Bug the shit out of her until she snaps about it. And we get a full-blown story about how she got dragged. dragged into this crazy church. Yeah. Great TV. It's right there. Guys, just stop being so gentle and scared to jump into shit and get involved. Get messy.

That's the thing. That's the best tip you can get. Get messy. Learn to play in the mud. It's fun. That's where the good shit comes. But we do get to talk about Rebecca a little bit and her past. And she's talking about her living situation.

She moved in with a guy just because of her apartment. They broke up and she got kicked out of the apartment, her old room. I wasn't sure if she got kicked out before she moved in. It was confusing. I don't really know. I like to think that's what happened. She had all of her stuff ready to move in. They broke up before she moved in.

But her old room was gone because Brad, of course it's Brad. Why wouldn't it be Brad? Brad, the high school boyfriend, took over her old room in New York. That was no longer available. She lost her virginity to Brad. and this again guys more start asking because this is weird oh childhood is i need more it's fucking weird as shit she's talking about losing her virginity at 16 she's talking about this weird deal that she thinks is like normal when she says my parents made a great deal with me either if you don't

do drugs we'll get your birth control it's like one how do you know she's not doing drugs two if she's going to be sexually active why the fuck wouldn't you get her on birth control or at least offer it to her if she wants it like what are we talking about here what a bizarre conversation to have with your parents and then present it to the table like everyone's going to be like oh yeah i had that same convo with my mom nobody had that conversation that's weird and you know what's weirder keeping the bed you lost your virginity on when you're in your 40s you know what's the weirdest is nobody asking follow-up questions that's great like guys what are we doing like you can ask just ask just

ask anything and get her going. She's a new housewife. We need to understand where she's coming from. We need to understand who she is. If she's offering this crazy information, this very personal information at a dinner table, your job as a housewife is to follow up with that. Ask her more. Get her going. See what she says. It sounds like there might be some shit in there that you guys can discuss. I don't know. I'm not a housewife, but I know that's how it works. Is she hung up on Brad. Is Brad weird? Why do you have the bed? Let's talk about that. Is Brad hot? Is Brad a Scientologist? Did he get you into the church? Is he hot? Yeah. But if she's clearly like awkward about this, this is where you need to take like a Roslick approach.

Look at Bronwyn with Brittany. She sees an opening because Brittany's stuttering and not sure what to say and just jumps in and fucking pushes her to get her frazzled and it works. You get not only a good performance out of Bronwyn, but you get a good response from Brittany because it's so unhinged and makes no sense. But it's entertaining because you're like, who the fuck is this chick? This is wacky. I like this. You have the opportunity with a newbie, Rebecca Minkoff right there saying some weird shit. And you guys are seemingly like, okay, that's cool. That's your experience.

That's a great experience. No, dude, that's weird. The conversation she had with her parents about drugs or birth control is weird. the conversation about her having the bed she lost her virginity in is weird these are strange things it's strange to go over to jenna talking about her 17 year old son and being like oh my god he's not having sex like what grow up you live in new york city like what the fuck are we talking about he's 17 like people have conversations with the kids about sex like what the fuck like it's 24 make them inform them so they know instead of being like he's not doing it that's crazy talk

these are all things that we can discuss at this dinner table that I will be listening to and happy I will be happy to hear these conversations but instead we're not going to do that we're just going to brush off and move past it and get back to the fucking house and we haven't talked about anything they haven't covered anything and they're talking about britt and si and uba takes this this firm stance of one everybody's a pigeon out of nowhere And she thinks that that line is gold. She's like, oh, I got something good here. I'm going to keep saying pigeons because that's what all these women are.

They're all pigeons. It was good in the trailer when she said it one time. It's like, oh, that's kind of funny. She doesn't know what the hell's going on. How many times did she say it in this episode? At least five or six because she carried it over in the morning, bro. Yeah, carried it over into the morning. She thought that this, I don't even know if I even think that she thought that this was going to be iconic or something that people

could look back on no i don't think she just got stuck on it and she's actually frustrated with the way that these women are doing things and we've pointed this out already they're not doing much they're not doing a lot in the realm of housewives it's the bare minimum they're they're barely talking to each other about these things and you're that upset about it that's when i immediately thought to myself she doesn't belong on the show we've had the inkling in the past that if she's not going to show up she's not going to perform if she's not going to open up and tell us about her life then yeah she doesn't belong on the show. If she can't handle this and she's still talking about last season where Bryn did her job for her by bringing up her boyfriend. Correct. Then you don't belong on the show.

You can't handle it. It's okay. That's fine. It sucks for us watching it, but it's okay for you. You can just walk away. Yeah, it's hard to watch how she approaches things because the stance that she takes, she starts out with, yeah, you two are my girls. I can talk to you, but I can't trust anybody else or those two being Jessel and Aaron, but everybody else I don't trust. And then she says, I can't trust anybody in this group. I don't want to open up in front of any of you. It's like, well, then you can't be here. And also, as you just said, this is not even high level house wifery that we're watching. This is not that snaky. This is not that conniving. They're not moving behind the scenes. This is the bare minimum that they're doing to each other. You need to be able to take this

with a grain of salt and not get so worked up about it because it's not that deep. Yeah, they're lying to each other. That's what this show is. And it's not even lies. It's false truths. I told her one thing. I spun it to you. I still want to be your friend.

I'm just, I'm a little shady. I'll quote Bronwyn. I'll quote Bronwyn once again, who's a fucking newbie. If you guys are allowed a little mess, you have to allow me a little mess as well. That's what Housewives is,

allowing a little bit of mess on all sides of the street so that we can get entertaining television. If you're not capable of allowing for a little mess on both sides and coming to terms with it at the end of the day, then we're not going to sit here and watch it anymore because it's not working. And she takes this firm stance when Bryn shows up and that's where she just doesn't really let other people talk. And it's not like a fun argument. It's not like two people going back and forth. She's just saying everyone in this group, you're all lies. Jenna says one thing and then says another. Bryn brushes sigh off doesn't listen to her.

Sy's speaking and Bryn doesn't want to listen. Bryn's trying to let it slide in the moment, trying to move on from it. Again, you're not allowed to do that either where you're just like brushing it off because you have to answer for some things and you haven't.

And you refuse to engage to a certain point because I don't know. I don't know why you won't go to that next level and call Cy out. If you have a problem with Sai and how she's handling it, even though she is in the right here, then let's get into it. Not a blanket apology.

and when she doesn't accept it, you turn into a child. And that's what happens in this scene. Bryn and Uba cannot articulate the arguments to one another because they keep talking over one another. And then they literally go like, nah, nah, nah, nah, da, da, da, da, da. Holding their ears like children. I'm like, what the fuck are we watching right now? Then nothing was accomplished.

You didn't push a storyline forward. You guys literally held your ears like children and said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's what that's how this ends up. That's how that ended. Yeah, that's how the center of this episode in the middle of all of Uba's stuff ended because Brin inserted herself thinking she was just talking about Bryn and Cy, which, by the way, Bryn, if you're going to just try to sweep it under the rug, you're going to try to give Cy a hug at the end of it and say, oh, we're good now. Everything's fine. Then you shouldn't feel like your ears are burning that people are talking about you. If you truly believe that everything's okay and you get to get away with it because you're Bryn, then why are you worried about this?

you're not and then if you're if you are actually worried about it why don't you handle it why don't you actually address it and handle it you don't do that to uba you don't come down and start yelling at her because you think that they're talking about you they're not they're talking about uba's problems which by the way don't matter either like it just they were talking about brin they were saying that like brin's brin is talking about everybody yeah it's it was the whole group that uba was referring to but yeah that's a moment where you guys can hash this out and she keeps just going back to look sigh apologized to me we're good it's like side didn't really have to apologize to you if you're looking at this if like who owes who

an apology you both could have apologized and moved on if there's two different sides of the story but you didn't allow for anything to happen and then brin goes she didn't even apologize then we get the text from errands like yes she did it's very clearly i'm very sorry for my behavior last night side 2.0 whatever so that's the issue is we have resolve they had attempt to just deny it and not address it and then move on. Yep. It's like, well, what are we moving on to? There's no resolution.

There needs to be either a quick resolution, as you said, or go after each other. But instead, you just decide to not discuss it. It's no longer being talked about, which again, then I'm fine with that. If that's the route we're going, brushed under the rug and move on. And that's how this show is going to go, okay, let's do that. So we're able to coexist. Instead, you get breakfast the next day, and it's mayhem because nobody can get a word in. The new Mitsubishi Outlander brings out another side of you.

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She was getting ready. It's not like she left. It's not like she was refusing to leave her bedroom. She was just taking a long time getting ready. And yeah, I don't blame her because maybe she just doesn't feel like dealing with the shit, But again, this is a housewife show. You need to deal with the shit. So that's going to bother me.

But yeah, I don't understand why Uber immediately takes it upon herself to start going after Brin, start going after everybody in the group once again. Like, I don't, I just don't get it. I don't understand where she's coming from. And this is when we get six more pigeon lines. And it's like, what's happening here? That's why this, as soon as the scene ended, I texted you, I'm like, I don't know what that was.

I just don't understand it. I was shocked because as the scenes playing out, credit started rolling. I'm like, yeah, it's it. it's over like what happened at this breakfast and that's the biggest problem with this show everybody speaks for everybody else nobody has the face to face and when they do there's third fourth and fifth parties there to interject i don't need interject i don't need you to speak on sai's behalf so i can come out to the table and talk herself and she tried to and then uba said she calls brin a snake which okay fine but it's just not landing

because now it's just talking over everyone's talking over everybody half of the table's trying to vibe out and just let it let it lie uba's trying to ramp it up brin's trying to ramp it up it's just chaos and not when you can't follow it when it's not followable if that's a term sure that's when it becomes but that's when it becomes frustrating because like what am i supposed to latch on to here she's calling brin a snake okay that could be good for later like these two get into it i guess but I don't really know if that's going to be a sticking point. But watching Brin and the way that she handles things, it's not going to be good later because she's just going to ignore it. And then when she doesn't like something,

she's just going to start talking over them, walk away or act like nothing happened and then try to force an apology or lack thereof and just force a hug. The groundwork is being laid here where we can point at things and say, well, maybe that'll be important later. Maybe that'll be good later. Maybe they'll get into it. Maybe this can be a storyline. But we've watched them go through similar situations and it never works.

It never plays out how we wish it does on a show. Because they don't actually get into it. I know. It's annoying. And like with this whole thing, yeah, it's quite clearly going back to last year. All of this sigh shit, all of the problems you have with Bryn is not because of sigh. It's because of what happened last year and Mr. Connecticut getting outed because people

found out about Oliver. So if that's the case, fight your own battle. Go out there and do your own dirty work. I'll watch that. Fuck yeah. You want to ride for your man. and for your secret life, great, then defend it. Don't go out there and defend Sai, who's fully capable of defending herself,

comes out in a little tennis outfit, like, what the fuck's going on out here? Comes to find out. She's the topic of conversation, even though she wasn't there. And like you said, Uba paints it as though Si's not even coming out because she's so upset. And then she strolls out with a plate of food like, hey, guys, totally normal. So what the fuck? Let her do it. It's just weird.

And all of a sudden, boop credits. I'm like, okay, that's it. What happened? Literally nothing. We accomplished nothing. We had interesting topics come up, immediately glossed over, not discussed. Fights aren't happening because everyone fights for the other person. Nobody knows what's actually going on or how people actually feel about it because they're not allowed to finish the conversation across the board.

Aaron interjects, Jenna interjects. Jenna is the only one that tries to not interject. I take that back. Aaron's always over there trying to talk about it. You get all these third parties. We need one on. ones that do not end with a, I see you, I hear what you're saying. I see you and I hear what you're saying.

That can't be the case every time. It just simply cannot. And the two people, you know what? If you get Uber and Bryn and they hash it out, I'll fucking watch that. Absolutely. But not if there's the caveat of I don't want to do this. I'm out of here. I would watch that all day.

But we're not going to see it because neither of them buy in fully or Uber's fighting somebody else's battle. If you have a problem with Bryn because of last year and we're still talking about an issue from last year. Let's squash it now. You guys hash this out one on one. Everyone else go out and get ice cream. Let these two hammer it out and we'll watch that. That'll be entertaining. And then just talk about Scientology. That cherry on top. Boop. There's an episode. That's a great episode. But no. Nope. That's not what we're going to do. But let's get to some questions. From MLO, 1969, just a great statement. Why is Rebecca here? Unless you're going to talk about

Scientology, waste of time. Agree. Let's get into it. What do we do? from maperham 3309 is uba grinding your gears are just me the whining is too much i already deal with the toddler yeah it's it's not landing it is but i mean you could also lump uh brin into that too it's just yeah it's not fun to watch which leads this question from bailey francis brin is chaos delulu or narcissism which one i don't i won't claim narcissists i don't think yeah i delusional and chaotic yeah but i don't think she's narcissistic yeah yeah chaotic and a little bit of delulu i think she's used to getting by and like getting a pass with her like cute act yeah and so she doesn't ever have to actually cop the things i think she's just used to that yeah but i don't know

if i'd labeled narcissistic i just think she's kind of in her own world and when it doesn't go her way she doesn't know how to act so she says we're good and forces a hug yeah yeah i would agree thought this is a fun one from christie jeddlicky if zucchini can be a safe word then what would be your safe word what's our safe word cactus because they're that's a good one i like that you're pricking be too much no you don't have to say that you don't have to go any further no i was mine always goes to spamoni and that's from uh from semi pro or we could do we could do the safe word from euro trip oh uh under uh it was it you say it's like this long bring out the fish of raymond yeah i watched that movie i was like i don't know 15 yeah that's not

good movies were different back then you know i feel old saying that back in my day we had euro trip they went to a six club at amsterdam i was a fresh been in high school uh i want to do this one last from anna dot bomb let's face it they're not housewives what would you rename this instead uh acquaintances of new york um yeah yeah uh familiar forest friends forced friends of new york is funny um Um, yeah, that, I don't know, co-workers of New York.

Yeah, the co-workers of you, the co-workers of New York. The co-workers of New York would be a great name as of right now. I'm still, I'm not optimistic. I'm not cautiously optimistic. I want it to be good. I'm going to root for it to be good. The current way that it's going, this will not succeed. And we will see a shake up in some regard, whether it's a pause or they can't reboot it twice.

I think that's admitting too much failure. Yeah. But you're definitely going to see some changes coming if they can't get it together. And I think the saving grace last year was Jessel finding her stride. And you're not going to get saved by that again. That was a one-trick pony. I don't think she's a one-trick pony. I think she's great for TV, but I think she needs a supporting cast that can meet her at that level.

And I think that's why you're not getting a whole lot out of Jessel this season. She doesn't have a whole lot to play off at the moment. Yeah. So I don't know. Hopefully it turns. Hopefully something pops off and they kind of hit. their stride and figure out how to be messy and not be so concerned about how they're coming off because you can't like that it's just not it's a recipe for disaster yeah no it really is and i

just don't know where they go from here but i mean obviously per usual we're going to hold out hope we're going to hope for the best and if it works it works and that's great for us if it doesn't then it is going to be a long season sure is pal but uh uh Other than that, you got anything else? Nope. Now, brave bros are out of here. Peace. American history is full of infamous tales

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