Bros & Shows - A Traitorous Cliffhanger (The Traitors Full Recap)

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

What's up Bros? We are one week away from the finale and we were left on a cliffhanger that could decide the fate of the entire game. We finally say farewell to Tom Sandoval, and if you say you didn't enjoy him on the show youre lying. With the numbers dwindling, Danielle and new traitor Britany set their sights on Gabby. It looks like Danielle is drawing a lot of speculation as well. During the mission we take a walk down memory lane to decide who will be the Seer. The seer having the power to find out the identity of one player. At the roundtable all eyes are on Danielle and Gabby as both plead their case. Dolores cant help but waste her vote as she casts doubt on Ivar. After deciding to vote against Gabby, the Traitors make a solid move and shift their vote to Ivar to avoid suspicion. The vote ends in a tie between Ivar and Danielle. With the tiebreaker coming up, we are left on a cliffhanger that will more than likely decide the outcome of the season. Will it be Danielle? Will it be Ivar? Who claimed the title of Seer? We shall see this week at the Finale/ Reunion! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. A cliffhanger, dude. They're going to end it on a cliffhanger before the last episode. Before they reveal the sear, we got a cliffhanger. We get hit with a cliffhanger. And look, I'm not going to dig too deep into spoilers.

But the good thing about this episode is it is very difficult for us to spoil anything. Because no one went home. There's a spoiler. No one ended up going home this episode. Well, I technically in the beginning. But, you know, aside from that, no one else went home. So we can't spoil it, guys. we got a review on apple that was you guys spoil i don't know what to do anymore i don't know

what to do we can't help spoiling we're supposed to recap the episode what are you on from us bros and shows i gotta have me my pros and shows bros and shows bros and shows i got to have me my Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only shooter, bagueter. Are you a traitor? Are you a faithful? I'm feeling pretty traitorous.

I think this was a better episode. So I'm feeling pretty traitorous. And it's very funny. Obviously, we knew what was going to happen. We got the tease at the end that. Danielle was going to bring in Brittany. Brittany's going to meet her. Brittany on her way down even said,

hey, this is a pretty stupid idea. Why would you do this if you're Danielle? Before she even knew it was Daniel. So, yeah, we all agree with you, Brittany. We don't know what the hell's going on. No, we don't. And it's going to be interesting to see how that part of this whole thing plays out. But I do agree it was a better episode.

It was entertaining. Obviously, we were hit with that big cliffhanger at the end. it was funny watching, you know, the big brother army come after you last week because you just don't like Danielle. Apparently that's a big fucking problem. Yeah. Guess what? We don't give a fuck.

The fact that there's a big brother army is a problem for me to even wrap my head around. It's so funny. People still want to. Look, I'm not, I don't want to shame too many people, but like, I don't know. Whenever like the survivor comes in, it's like, yeah, all right. Like, I can kind of understand the survivor aspect, the challenge things. any of those shows that have been on for like 30 fucking years at this point, I'm still surprised when somebody goes online and starts talking about like,

Big Brother 75 was so good. And I'm like, how are you watching that still? Like you go on CBS every day and watch that. That's insane to me. Look, I won't show shame. That's kind of the basis of this podcast. I won't show shame.

Watch what you want to watch. I don't care. But it was very funny to watch the backlash. We should start a second podcast called show shaming. and we just pick a new show every week that we're surprised they exist and we just make fun of it the entire time and then we just see if people like get mad at us yeah that would be fun well yeah but anyway back on track this was a good episode and we start out with the reveal of daniel being the traitor to brittany big shock but what i did like from the turret scene

as they're sitting there do i love that this is the remaining traders it's not my favorite but but at the very least in the turret for the first time the entire season we get strategy they're talking about how certain things might affect certain things if we vote for this person that means we have to go for this person at the round table at least they're speaking strategically finally and it's not yeah let's do this and then they go to confessional it's like i'm going to kill that traitor and i know they're trying to kill me like it was the first time that at least we had cohesive conversation discussing a game plan that i can get on There's some semblance of teamwork in there, which I even said it to myself after watching

the turret, oh, this is what it should have been the whole season. The entire season. Petty squabbles, yelling at each other, backstabbing, all of those things that, yeah, in the beginning when there's four traitors, it's like, okay, that's kind of fun. But like, you know, get back on task. Now we actually see how the game is supposed to be played because it's two people that like each other and they're actually talking about things that matter, talking about, like, What is this going to do?

If we get rid of this person, what's the fallback? If we get rid of this person, is there an advantage? That is how you're supposed to do it, not just, hey, let's get, which I'll never forgive them for. Let's get rid of all the housewives right off the front. Like, why? They're going to provide the most entertainment. And that's my problem with these like the big brother, survivor strategist people.

It's like, yeah, we got to get rid of the stupid people. It's like, the stupid people make great content. The same people that are pining for Danielle to win are also saying, Tom Sandoval is hilarious. It's like that's what we need. We need stupid people in there that are going to bring funny moments. So that's what the whole thing is about. It's not this huge like gameplay because I hate to break it to you guys.

Danielle sucks at gameplay. She has been awful. I don't know what she's on on Big Brother because I don't watch Big Brother. I'm an adult. That's where I am. I love that now we have just Shooter versus Big Brother is probably my favorite thing to come out of this. I know you don't. They're so annoying, man.

I don't know. Survivor people are actually good. I like the Survivor people. line they're nice they're normal but the people for big brother like weirdos like i had no idea i had no idea until you look into it last shit i didn't have to because they commented on our shit and i was like oh okay there you go like you warned me about it and i just sat back and like like shooter thinks like jesus christ he's catching straits left and right because he doesn't like all the locations oh yeah you know it's actually a better show than big brother real world so

yeah that was a great show i did watch that but they're just discussing obviously what they're going to do with this, with this murder and they recognize Dylan and Dolores are probably their closest allies. This is such an important note. Let's kill Ivor. He's the least traceable. That's what I've thought this entire time. That's what most people have thought this entire time. He's so innocuous. He's not a factor. He's clearly not a traitor. Like, he's just there. Every time in the past, his name has been brought up to kill. It has been because it's just an easy one because everyone knows he's a faithful it's just going to be a quick like he won't be missed is the whole right that's been the sentiment of iver the entire show that should be like

the number one strategy let's get rid of people that have no chance of going home at the roundtable obviously this is a bit foreshadowing but that's what i thought that they should have been doing the whole time like all right yeah nobody believes that dolores is a traitor she doesn't have it in her the way that she's talking no one's going to believe that they all think that she's a faithful same with Tom. Like, yes, Tom brings entertainment because he's an idiot, but everybody thinks he's a faithful because of how chaotic he is, because he just jumps around from person to person with conviction because that's what Tom is. Let's get rid of people like that because we're not going to have a chance to get rid of them at the roundtable. Keep the fringe people

because that'll at least provide us with some cover. Now we're actually seeing them consider things like that, which is smart. Yeah, which I, like I said, I'm glad we get actual strategy in the turf the first time. But they land on Tom or Gabby. It seems to be the, it's Tom Gabby or Iver, but Tom and Gabby threw Daniel's name out last week. So they take center stage. The funniest line of the turret was traders are not supposed to go after traders coming from Daniel and the confession. I'm like, that has been your game plan, the entire show.

So that's really funny. Once Bob went out, you looked at Boston Rob. And then once Boston Rob was out, you looked at Carolyn. Like, what are you talking about? You started in the entire time. So yeah, I know. So whatever. But we get to breakfast.

Dylan is now, we've seen him wake up a little bit. You know, obviously he's been cozying up to every single trader in the house. But he's starting to recognize, we saw last week, he's recognizing that he might be around for a reason. Maybe he got too close. He's being protected. So at the breakfast this morning, he's like, I'm just going to be suspicious of everybody. He still has this loyalty to Danielle, but it is not the same as it used to be where he's like, oh, I'm not going to vote you out.

Now he's more speculative about the entire crew that's still there, is good. And as everyone's talking, Dolores is still stuck on Sandoval, of course, and I don't know why. It's just Dolo hates Tom. Like, she's sitting at breakfast talking shit about Tom, which I get. Like, I'm sure it's irritating being around him that much and like staying near him for that period of time. But I don't know what he's done to warrant that much suspicion. So that I'm like, here we go. She's going to waste another vote. But we find out Tom Sandoval has made his departure from traders never thought I'd be sad to see Tom go I was sad to see Tom go I was like look just for entertainment purposes I know only like he was I wanted him to hang around anyone that claims like

if your hatred for Tom Sandoval is blinding you from the entertainment that he provided this season that's a you problem I am not saying he's a good dude that has nothing to do with who he is as a person he was just entertaining you just sometimes got to give credit where credits do he was entertaining especially in a send-off. He's like, I fucking knew it because I'm the most threatening. I didn't know it'd be so good at this game, but I was valued and I was respected. And that means everything to me. It's like, you were none of those things.

You were the group jester. You were an idiot. And thank you for the entertainment. I cannot wait for him at the reunion after he has a chance to watch all this back and see what people were saying in their confessionals, see what people were saying when he wasn't around about him and how stupid he is and how terrible his gameplay was. He's going to be in denial just because. because we know Tom Zanvall very well based off of all of the things that we've had to do.

We basically had to psychoanalyze the guy last year. So here we are watching him and we're entertained by him. After all the shit that he put us through personally, we had to work on it every single day. We still are entertained by Tom. He is a funny individual. But I think that when it comes down to it, oh, wait, quick, quick PSA to everybody. Because I saw this, Andy Cohen confirmed that there will be the finale and the reunion are dropping next week. So, buckle up.

And he's a producer on this? Yeah, he does the reunion. He's the reunion host. No shit. I didn't know that. This is my first run through. Oh, that's exciting. Yeah, yeah.

So he's the reunion host. Obviously, he's well-versed in that world. But yeah, he confirmed, I think I'll watch what happens live earlier this week. Yeah, it's a double whammy. We get the finale followed immediately by the reunion. Yeah. So I can't wait for that. That's going to be a riveting night of television.

But I can't wait for Tom at the reunion after seeing all of that. And then having to face everybody who's just going to point out how bad he is at the game. And he's, I know. It's going to be so exciting. He's going to spiral. It's going to be interesting. No, he's not. He's going to deny and just act like that's not true. Yeah. That's what he does. We've seen it a million times. They just are threatened, but he's still going to lean on there threatened by him, even though the game's over.

Yeah. So that'll be fun to watch. But Alan enters and sets up the rest of the game that we have to look forward to. As we know, we're getting close to the finale. So this is the last roundtable revealing an identity, meaning whoever you vote out, this is the last time you find out if there are a training. or a faithful, meaning this is the most important vote that you've had the entire time that you've been here. So let's make sure, Dolores, that we're focused on people and numbers. We need numbies.

You need strategy to get somebody out effectively. Don't throw a vote away. Don't throw a vote away. I might be spoiling, but don't throw a vote away. That would be a silly thing to do this late in the game. Tom's not there. Did you see the theory that Tom and Dolores actually had some sort of coalition where they were voting for each other and acting stupid the entire time just to get through the end.

I wish that was true. I wish that was true just to get our Bravo people together. But that's not Dolores. Dolores is a woman of conviction. She is not going to change based on whatever strategy anybody else is coming up with. Nope. She's going to play her game. But we also find out about the seer.

And what the seer does is they will have the opportunity to have a one-on-one meeting with somebody and find out whether or not they are a traitor or a faithful and that is all based on the mission that they're about to do whoever makes the most money gets to be the seer and the last part of this is we won't find out the the identity of the seer until post roundtable so that way there's no unfairness here so that's a lot on the line a whole lot on the line and before we get to the mission itself we've got some speculation you know post morning we got to we got everyone's got to wander around and speculate so the first meeting is Gabby and Danielle. Gabby's already sold on Danielle.

She doesn't need any more evidence. She is dead set on it. She's seen too much. So you see this conversation. It's just awkward as shit. And on the flip side, Danielle is gunning for Gabby because she knows that Gabby is onto her. Brittany's aware of that as well.

So it's pretty much traitors versus Gabby, Gabby versus traitors. But Gabby does not know Brittany's a traitor. I don't think anybody does. I don't think anybody does right now because Brittany's gone through it the last couple of weeks. Danielle kind of replaced her for. going through it at the round table, but nobody's really suspecting Brittany at this point. I think that it would have made sense for Gabby to, because just think about how everything plays out. Whenever you have these one-on-one meetings, there's only six people left, I think. So you've got

a huge castle, six people, you're going to have these one-on-one meetings. Every other meeting that we saw, whether obviously we can put aside Brittany and Danielle because they're traitors, every other one-on-one was, who do you think it is? Who should we vote tonight? When Gabby stands there with Danielle, she's not doing herself any favors by not trying to throw her off the set. Like, hey, who do you think it is, Danielle? And see what Danielle says back to her. And then you could throw out a random name. If you end up throwing out Brittany, that could be kind of funny because it could split them a little bit.

If you end up throwing out like a Dylan or an Ivor or Dolores, whoever you decide to choose. Oh, you thought Gabby should have done more preemptive work here. Yes, I do think so. Yes. Because if you're going to stand there awkwardly and there were two different situations where she sat next to Danielle and didn't say a word just did not say anything didn't let on that she was doing anything you have to throw her off the scent because otherwise she's just going to assume you're coming after her because you're not talking about it or you don't trust her i see if you throw out like

hey i'm thinking dylan because boston rob kept him along for a long time maybe he's part of it he's acting like he's like always on edge every time we have a round table it's the hardest decision he's ever made in his life i think it could be him he could be a good actor his brother's an actor something like that i don't know i just threw that together in five seconds you could do that Gabby, I think it would have made sense for her to do that just to at least throw a little wrinkle in there because, look, I think Daniel's still going to come after you, but like, it could put a little doubt in her head, like, ooh, we've got Gabby a little messed up right now. That would be interesting.

I don't, I personally got the vibe that they're dead set, like, they're going to vote one way. So I think anything that she said would have been, you know, fruitless, but could have been, you know, that's worth a shot, I guess. You're right to try to point fingers in different directions, but you get Dylan and Ivers. talking. Danielle comes up. And Iver is locked in on Danielle. In this moment, I was like, shit, he's getting swayed a little bit because Dylan brings up Gabby and Iver's like, hmm, interesting point there. And I'll just keep going. Let's keep running through it. Gabby and Brittany sit down and Gabby's got a lock on the rest of this game. She's like, there's probably two traitors left.

My eyes are on Dolores and Danielle pointing to the traitor on traitor violence that we saw before. We got that clip in the beginning of the episode where she highlights the fact that the vibe between Danielle and Carolyn was very much the same as Bob the drag queen versus Boston Rob. You could kind of feel that same tension. It was the same sort of argument back and forth, which is a very good point. And it's like very good evidence enough to get Brittany worried. So Brittany goes to Dylan. This is, I think, where they may have lost the step, the traders. Because of this Bambi defense that they, they, Brittany keeps bringing up, like Gabby surrounding yourself.

It's a lot like the coffin thing. Like, it's the same type of situation where it's like, okay, why are we still talking about stuff that happened like four or five days ago? I know. Like she made friends. And none of the bambi's. And none of the bambes were traitors. So like what? You think she just insulated yourself with other people?

Like, no. Why would you do that? And got rid of all of them? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The Bambi defense, I didn't think was a great one. And that seems to be Brittany's only attack against her is like you only got close with those people. It's like you're only close with Danielle now.

And Iver was only close to Sam and like we could do this for everybody. Everyone's found their little group in the house. That's kind of how this game is gone. So I didn't think that was the best way to do this whole thing. You get the second awkward silence between Gabby and Danielle. It's like an awkward sit off like who's going to budge first. But we're headed to the mission, right? And at this point, with the conjecture going on amongst the faithful, I'm like, these guys are

fucked. Like, they're not even close to pointing out who they should be pointing out. They're not pointing the finger at Daniel at this point. They're not really pointing the finger at Brittany. No one expects Britney. So on the way to the mission, I don't have a whole lot of hope for the faithfuls. I'm like, I think you guys are going to miss this one again. Yeah.

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We get to the mission itself. It's like memory lane, and they're going through three different activities. I was disappointed. I thought it was going to be like things that happens during the stay at the mansion. You know what I mean? Or have like somebody come out. It's like, oh, Tom said that. I remember Tom saying.

Like things like that can kind of, maybe I'm a little jealous or a little selfish. But I would have to be involved. When we play these games, I want to have some fun too. I don't know. You're not showing us. They didn't show us where the skulls were. Like we didn't get to play the little roulette thing, like a little randomization. We didn't get to do anything.

So I don't know. I like to play too. What's wrong with that? They're not there wrong with that. I get it. I get you saying. We start with the clowns. and each clown is holding a balloon.

It's either got black shit in it or gold shit in it. If it's gold shit, you win $500. It's black shit. Incredible. Yeah. Great description. I mean, let's keep it simple, stupid. KISS, that's the game.

And they do this wacky dance. So you can't, like, they reveal who they are. And then they do this hole. It's like when you're at a ball game and they do like the ball under the hat and you got to follow the hat, which one's got the ball under it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, we get to the game itself. and I'm just going to go through the end of the game.

Danielle Banks 500, Dolo Banks 1,000, Gabby Banks, nothing, Dylan Banks, nothing. Brittany Banks, 1,000, right? So then we get to the baby dolls. If you pull the string on the doll, it reveals an amount. If you pull it again, you keep going as many times as you want. Eventually, if you pull too many times, it says you're too greedy, you get nothing. After that game. And at this point, Dylan needed to do.

to win this one. I really needed Dillard to win this one. And he really had an awful showing because in this one he pulls the strength too many times. You should have racked out. I have a question. I have a question about this one. Was this 1,200 additional dollars to your pot or was it adding 200 at a time? Because I was confused. Like, I don't know what the total is. I was trying to figure it was obviously. We don't know how many people got how many gold coins at the end that I've got a thought about that too that I think you're going to agree with on me. I think that that middle one was a little confusing. Like, I know that, say, you know, Gabby had zero dollars, but then it said 1,200, like, is she have 1,200 total? And then, yes, so it is like, I don't know. So that,

that part was very confusing to me. So every time it goes up, it was confusing for me to until he said the totals at the end, um, of this round. It goes up 200. So you can either have 1,400, 1,400, 1,600 or 1,800. It's not like you get 1,200 and an additional 14. No, no, I wasn't even saying that. I was saying, is this compounded on the first round as well? Yeah, so it's that. Danielle had 500. So, now she has 1,200. 1700.

Okay, so it is that way. All right. Yeah, that you compound each game and the, the winner at the end with the most money. Yeah. And then he didn't do a live update total between round two and three. No, he didn't. I wish he did.

I wish, I wish they just had it on like the side of the screen or something. But yeah. Leading into the final hoist the cages thing, just because we don't know who wins this, they keep it hush, hush after the gold coin thing. I will give you a run through. So Dolo's got 2,400 total, Brittany, 2,400 total, Danielle, 2,500 total,

and I believe that Iver has 500 from game one because he lost the pull thing. So it's Daniel in the lead, Dylan's got $0,000, Britney's got $2,400, and Dolo's got $2,400. Everyone else has zero, all right? So we get to hoist the cages. You go dig through a bag of old wet leaves, which I'm sure smelled like, ass and they get yeah they made us think that it was poop like the door she said just straight up poop i i believe it's just like a few compost leaves for a while they smell like shit no yeah yeah and you go dig through a bag you find a coin you strike me as a compost guy oh i'm getting into

the compost game i knew it yeah this year this year well it's part of my homesteading uh initiative at casa de russell i'm getting solar panels getting a compost pile getting all let me posit a good strategy here see if you agree with me if you are say Gabby or Dylan but mostly Gabby you know that you're on the hot seat you're on Danielle's trail she knows you're on the trail you're probably going to get at somebody's going to go after you at the roundtable you have zero dollars you have no chance of winning this you are not going to mind 40 fucking things Dylan doesn't have any money either give it to Dolores and then at least Dolores has who's $100 behind Gabby, she's going to have not only her coins, but your coins. It gives her a better

chance. And it shows, hey, I've got $0.00. Like, I have no chance of winning this. I'm not even going to try to win anymore. But I'm going to prove to you that I'm not a traitor by doing this. Here you go. And then you can become the seer and you can see what's going on. I think that would have been a good move by either her or Dylan. Dylan, a little bit less so because I think everybody thinks that he's faithful anyway. But he could have done the same thing. Or Gabby and Dylan could have done it. Like maybe Gabby gives it to Dylan and then tries to do something that way.

Like throw somebody off the scent, try to get your name exonerated, if you will, by doing something like that when you have no chance of winning. I like that. I like that a lot. I'm curious if they're allowed to add to someone else's pot. Yeah, we don't always get all the rules. Yeah, which is silly. We should get all the rules.

Just tell us everything. Yeah. My only issue with that giving it to Dolo is we have. have seen her repeatedly vote she would go to iver yes and she would ask him it's like i'm a faithful and it's like well fuck now where do we go yeah that's why going with her based on her previous votes i don't have a lot of confidence that she will use the the seer role the most effectively whereas if you give it to dylan or if dylan and gabbie team up and you give it to gabby they have been more speculative about everybody whereas dola's been

stuck on ivar and time the entirety of the game so that's what i think but i do i like that i wonder if that was a possibility um and they should give us like every detail because we find out after the fact we'll speculate on things and then people have the fact that you can't do that's like well they didn't say that so how are we supposed to know anyway pre roundtable discussions are happening we're speculating after the game we do not find out who the seer is until post roundtable we're not going to be let in on uh who won the whole thing if it's It's a traitor. I think it's going to be very hard for the faithfuls to win this game.

If, yeah, well, I'll try to save who gets the cliffhanger at the end. But we still know who gets kicked out. Yeah, exactly. We don't know who got kicked out so that we can't spoil this possibly for anybody. But yeah, I agree with you. If a trader gets the Seer ability and they're able to get another faithful out at the roundtable, it's game over. It's pretty much a rat. Like, you can't do anything at this point.

So the pre-round table speculation station. Dylan and Gabby are chit-chatting, and Gabby lays out her evidence for Danielle. Great move, astute observations, the Danielle and Carolyn in the wine cellar, catching them early on. And if you remember, Dylan went in shortly after that. He was looking around for the little coffin. Remember that? Yep. So I wish that came back.

I don't think it did. Like, he didn't reference that, which I wish it had because you've been like, oh, my God, wait, Danielle was there. But anyway, Jeremy saying her name last before he got the book. and then the traitor-on-trader violence that we saw at the roundtable previously, that could have been the same thing as we saw with Carolyn and Danielle. All great evidence, good observations. Again, good gameplay finally coming in in this second to last episode. We finally see people using real tangible things.

I was stoked about that. That does definitely push Dylan further on the fence because he was like probably leaning more towards Gabby. Now he's like, shit. That's compelling enough for me to second guess myself. So that was a very strong move by Gabby there. That was essential. I think they're keeping her in this game, potentially. But Dylan and Danielle are talking.

And he's like, it sounds like it's going to be you or Gabby tonight. And she presses him. And she's like, are you serious, Dylan? And then look, maybe people in that, like, this is why I have given her credit because she still is around. And for some reason, like her stuff's working. And we are playing the hindsight game here. her defense and being like oh my god dylan i'm just so hurt all of that like if i see that

i'm going to be like oh i don't believe you i don't believe this at all and i don't think dylan fell for it either based on his vote later i don't i don't think he did either and look the reason that i don't like daniel is because i feel like her gameplay is super sloppy and more personally she annoys the shit out of me all of her antics just annoy me and i i get that Like, if that's something that's going to get her to go far in these types of games, fine. But for me personally, even if I knew like 100% that she was a traitor, I'd be so annoyed with her, watching her shake on the ground after something like that. Like, get this woman out of here.

I can't deal with her anymore. Same with anybody else. Like, I don't care. Iver pisses me off half the time too because he's always going after women. I don't want to see that shit either. Get Iver out of here. I would vote on people because I simply don't like them. And that's pretty much where my allegiance is.

would be. So when she does this, like I understand that it's good gameplay because Dylan is somebody who has been playing pretty emotional the last couple of events. You can pull on the heartstrings for sure. Talks about it every single roundtable for the last like three now where he's even said to the rest of them like, hey, I'm torn and this is going to destroy me if we're wrong. Thankfully, they were right about Carolyn last week, but he's still like very mixed up and he doesn't know what to do. So it is smart to play on his emotions. But I think at this point in the game when there's only six people left and you have to get. somebody out at this point or you guys are toast i think he's trying to put them to the side so i don't

know i don't think it worked either yeah i i mean the one thing i will say and dev pointed out it's like that is kind of daniel's only move with dylan at this point and with everybody at this point it's like she needs one person remaining to be under team wearing on her grandkids to everybody so yeah that is right so but by going after just dylan by focusing it on dillard because Everyone else seems to have their mind made up. That's her only chance to sway somebody. So again, I guess it is the most logical approach. But you have Brittany talking to Danielle,

and it's clear that Gabby's gunning for her. Dylan's open to the idea of voting Danielle out. You finally see these two start to panic a little bit. They've been so sure of themselves. They were driving back from the mission. Like, oh, my God, this is a fantasy. It's all coming true. Like, they were so on cloud nine, and now they're brought down.

They thought they had the numbers. Yeah. It's so crazy, too, with six people left. one person now obviously dylan can potentially sway iver they're starting to think a little bit more like holy shit like we have to get to iver first and this is when it's really funny too because it is such a big place like when there are what do they start off with like 15 of them or whatever 14 16 i think it was 14 then plus boston rob and then it's probably 16 let's say 16 whatever so there's a lot of people in that house and now suddenly there's only six and there's eight rooms

that you could possibly be in nobody knows where iver is he could be in the bathroom for all we know he's just sitting he didn't move at all he stayed on the same couch the whole time and brittany running around i thought it was great editing with brittany running around like in and out you could see you're going up and down the same hallway going outside to yakety sacks like darn it yeah yeah it's like oh man that would have been so on brand for the u k too that would have been fucking awesome but the shocking part iver may be the difference maker in this game. He may be the reason that the faithfuls have a chance because of his conversation with Brittany here. Because she obviously is trying to push people towards Gabby to help out

the traitors overall. And she's like listening to Iver's defense. And Iver has a decent defense. He's like, Danielle stopped shaking yesterday when she was going after Carolyn. It was the first time I've seen that and she was super focused, super locked in. I'm locked in on Danielle now. Brittany has an emotional response to it. I don't know if I can do that. I don't know if I can handle this. Like, it's going to crush me.

And this line right here, it was, but the line right here, if the vote goes a certain way, it's because of Iver saying this, it's a game. It's a game, sweethears, what he says.

First off, Sierra did say that a couple of weeks ago about somebody got voted out and she was talking about Danielle again, saying, it's a fucking game. They're not really. did like what is that and this is daniel once again using those like over emotional moments to try

to sell the fact that she's a faithful and it's just starting to get to a point where people aren't believing it neither hasn't done a lot so far this was probably the best thing that he's done this to this point anyway this could be the difference maker and whether or not they vote out a traitor because i think this line might it resonated more with brittney than i think she was expecting i think she's like oh shit you're right it's a game and then she starts thinking back like okay i was versus Danielle and Big Brother. I betrayed her. What's going to happen next?

Like, there's a lot of pieces there. And I like, that's, again, this was one of the best episodes of this season because of things like this. We're using strategy. We're using speculation. We're actually discussing real things. We're not just being like, I got a gut feeling on this one. I like your gut a lot.

I'm going to go with your gut too. Fuck, what do you mean we were wrong? I was so sure that his gut was right. Like, that's what we've been doing. And now we're actually using evidence to break down certain things. So I enjoy that. But we get to the round table. We do find out the prize pot sitting at $166,800 at this point.

We're reminded this is the final banished reveal. So make sure you get this one right. Deliberate. So everyone starts talking. Brittany goes first and brings up Gabby via the Bambi defense, as I call it, using the Bambi group to single her out, saying you didn't get close to anybody. Again, I thought that was fairly weak. It just everyone has their allegiances in the house.

So this was not my favorite approach. But Gabby jumps in and points at Danielle. I thought she did okay, but I thought she missed pivotal evidence. The same thing that you laid out to Dylan is what you should have laid out to this table. She brought up the Carolyn thing. It seemed like you had more evidence there that you were privy to more, which points to you being a traitor. That was traitor on traitor violence.

It was very tense like Bob the Drag Queen versus Boston Rob. Danielle defends saying I was quiet up until she attacked. me so they're both i mean we knew this is going to happen they were going to defend they were going to defend but dylan starts to side like he openly starts leading towards gabby iver he decides with gabby obviously and then daniel and i thought this was a misstep goes for the girl next door defense we've had this one already this one we've already we've already done this we've tried to use this and i thought the bambis honestly yes and i thought gabby handled her shit really well because she's like, well, we've done this before.

She points out, and like her defense ended up being everything Daniel says. Yeah, I think, I think her secondary defense was so much better. I think that she laid out enough there. And I think that she understood, like, I probably have Iver. And it seems like Dylan is leaning my way as it is. So I'm just going to lay this out right now. I'll see what she says about it. And I thought she did a good job by saying things, you had so much conviction going after Carolyn.

We don't know if you're just staying within the realm of the game or you know these facts for absolute because you're up there in the turret doing the same thing that we saw bob the drag queen and boston rob do it was pretty similar you guys were going after each other with facts and you were both very sure about what you were saying so it makes a lot of sense so i think that was a pretty good argument but her secondary argument when they come back to her is so good it was so eloquent it was so straightforward she wasn't scared at all she was so smart about everything that she said just putting it right back on daniel's lap i think daniel handled it really well too i think it was one of the better back and forth that we've seen in a round table where you can tell that neither of them really

give a shit about the other they just don't care we're just going to rip it off right now there's nothing left to lose and i thought both of them were playing such a good game at this point talking about both of uh both of each other's strategies yeah i'll give daniel credit here i thought that this was the best gameplay we've seen from her up until this point i thought that it was a it was anytime any player tries to lean on emotions or feelings to defend i think that's when i get red flags that's how I watch this show at least. Yeah. And her big defense, though, after all,

because she's laying certain things out against Gabby, Gabby did a great job kind of volleying back at or whatever she was throwing at her. But when she says, like, I don't have the stomach. I can't stomach being a traitor. I'm like, well, you don't get to dictate whether they could get picked to be a traitor early on in the game. So for you to say that you can or cannot stomach it is irrelevant to the game. You need to be able to do it if you're picked as a traitor.

You've been on these game shows before in Big Brother. So that's when my red flag radar is always up for anybody on this show. If you're going to try to defend with, I couldn't handle that. I'm like, I don't believe you because if you were in that position, you would have to try. So that's an irrelevant argument to me. But we get to the vote after Dolores ruins everything by saying, I'm going up to you, I've heard. I'm like, why do we do this every week? Why do we waste votes?

I have a theory about this one. And I know a lot of people, because we have questions at the end, I think a lot of people are going to ask us our thoughts on it. So I'm just going to do it. You can go through the votes and then I'll go into my theory about this whole thing. Okay. Well, we get to the voting. And Danielle gets three votes from Ivor, Gabby, and then Dylan actually gets swayed enough to vote for Danielle. Big move there.

The best move that Danielle has done this entire game was switching her vote to Iver. And I don't know if she gave Brittany a look or something across the table. Like, hey, we're going a different direction. I don't know what happened there. So that's my theory. What's the theory? So the switchup is the theory. So when Dylan sat down with Danielle, we saw them start to scramble.

They're freaking out. I think they pivoted on a dime. We don't have the votes anymore for Gabby because we know that Dolo is going after Iver. Again, Dolo, huge woman of conviction. If she says before the roundtable, I'm thinking Iver, she's going to go in Iver. She's gone after Tom for four episodes with no issue at all. He got voted. He got killed last night.

she didn't even bat an eye she didn't say oh shit i was wrong about that she just wanted tom out of there so she's going after iver no matter what anybody else says and a fact that she ended that whole thing it's like okay if if do if dolo goes after iver in this and she puts a case on iver we flip we just go right for iver because at least we know we'll have three and the rest we might be able to get dylan to go after gabby and then we have the numbers immediately i think that was probably the smartest and it was a little risky but i think it was the smartest move that they possibly could have done was flipping at the last second because it threw everybody off we've got this huge thing against gabby brittney brought up gabby brittany's kind of left out on an island now because

she's the one who brought up gabby and then she switched to iver it looks a little weird i hope people it looks a little suspicious assume we know that brittany's going to survive this round anyway because nobody's voting for so i hope that somebody comes back to that and says wait why did she switch that's pretty bizarre no matter if you know daniel or iver are the ones who go out but i did think this was probably the smartest move that they could have done at this moment. With Amex Platinum, $400 in annual credits for travel and dining means you not only satisfy your travel bug, but your taste buds too. That's the powerful backing of Amex.

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I don't know. She was just playing defense the whole time during that. Roundtable. That's what it looks like. She's like, hey, you know, Gabby came after me. I was just defending myself. I wasn't saying, I was suggesting she could have been. But yeah, I think Doloswadne. That was a smart move by Danielle.

It was her smartest move of the game. It was her smartest move of the game. And it's good gameplay there. And again, I wrote after this scene, I'm like, finally using logic. And that's about everybody at this day. We're finally breaking this down pragmatically instead of, I got a feeling. So that made me happy. But it's our first draw.

Of course, leading into the last week, we get our first draw of the season. and each person gets to plead their case. They don't get to vote, obviously. And the remaining four are left to vote. So I ever pleads his case. I didn't think he did a bad job. I think that he shouldn't have said much. He's just like, look, guys, I've been this guy the entire time.

You haven't, no one suspected me until now. Like, this is dumb. Don't waste your vote on me. If you do, we got two traitors left and you're screwed after this. There's no way you win. If you vote me out, you kind of said that. Yeah. He pretty much said as much as, yeah.

That's what he said. So it's like, that was like, that's perfect, leave it there. Danielle's only play is to sway Dylan's vote because she's expecting Brittany to vote for Iver. There should be no question mark there. They left on the same page. They got to this point. Like, that's got to be the move. I'm not even considering Britney at all.

But does not remember or does not know that I ever had that conversation that, hey, it's just a game. Brittany catches a look from Dolo across the table. Yeah. Dolo maybe actually unintentionally saved the day. I wanted to talk about that. And look, this could all just be smoke and mirrors. We don't know what actually happens because that is the cliffhanger. We do not know where Brittany's vote goes.

And obviously she has the option of either another draw, which leaves it up to chance, which I hope is just a coin flip in the most traitorish way. And it's a crazy fucking coin flip, like a massive coin in the middle of the table pops up. And Alan just goes over and like pulls a lever and it drops out. I don't know what happens. I just want something spectacular if we get there. But I did want to focus in on Britney's, talking about the look that Dolo gave

where she had these big eyes as she describes them and looks right at Danny and I'm like oh shit wait a minute that just means that she's aligning with Danielle I think I mean it's Dolo you guys have been with her for a week she's not going to

change her vote why would you think and Brittany led on like she thought she was changing her vote to Danielle so maybe she saw this as an opportunity like hey if I don't vote for Danielle right now people are going to be on me people are going to think that it's me. I think there was no world in which I thought that she was switching her vote.

Like I didn't think Dola was doing a look to be like we're going after Danielle, Brittany. We're changing this. But that could be just because of how she's played the game up until this point, also being like a Jersey fan, like knowing that she is above all else loyal always to a fault. So I wasn't expecting the switch up. But Britney's so rattled right now because she's going through her head. It's a game. I do need to get somebody out.

I need to think about myself a little bit. But I also like pledge fealty to Danielle. So I don't want to fuck this up. But she's rattled enough in this moment to take that and be like, what did she mean by that? Are we going on Daniel? Should we just get Danielle out then on the last remaining traitor? But at least I'm still here. No one expects me.

She did a lot of thinking in that little time to write down her boat. we get the vote and we're left on that cliffhanger because dylan was not swayed by daniel pleading he sticks with his his gut there daniel gets one vote from him one vote from gabby dolo goes for iver and in that moment brittany jaw drop yeah oh shit which could be editing of course it could be a million like it to us of course sitting at home we're like oh did you switch up because you didn't want to be left out on that island? Right. So it's going to be interesting.

Obviously, we get hit with like a TBC to be continued and we're finding out the year next week. We're finding out who gets voted out. If somebody gets voted out or if it's left up the chance and we flip a giant coin, me personally, I think that that table looks like a roulette table. So if it like drops down and faces come up and they spin a big ball, I would love that. That would be cool. But there's a million things you can speculate on.

again you're also at the the will of the editors they could have just found that that image of brittany going and that could have had nothing to do with it i stopped as they were going through faces from like the scenes from next week where it's like they flashed everybody's like headshot moment and i thought they left iver out and i was like well they already told us so i stopped and like rewatched it no they they have all six remaining so we don't have any anything to go off of the except for looks, but then you're also, like I said, you're playing into the hands of the editors. We don't have a lot to go on here as far as who got whacked, if anybody got whacked, or are we doing a coin flip? So that this will dictate more than likely whether the traders or the faithful win.

This decision here, because if Danielle gets whacked, it is uneven faithful to traders. If Danielle stays and you get rid of Iver, now you have to assume. that Danielle probably also won the seer just based off of, you know, she was up a hundred points. She's going up against, I guess, or Brittany. I mean, Dolores has either one of them. The chance is the only one with a chance, really. And I just don't see Dolo digging through enough piles of leaves to find coins.

I don't know. I'm not going to say, I have no idea. I'm just saying, like, I don't know because that's also going to dictate a lot. So it's either two traders versus three faithfuls and they have the chance to murder one of them tonight or the end of the night so it'll be two on two is very different than three on one right so this will dictate the entire game here i believe yeah but it was a good it was a really really good episode yeah now let's get to some questions from hm falkner if brittney didn't switch up or vote i'll be annoyed with the cliffhanger i think we all will just because yeah they left

us on a tbc and it's not going to have a payoff i do hate when that happens so yeah i I think we were agreeing with you there. From Chris Tenreece. I've been a pleasure to work with, in quotes. I'm a little sad to see Sandoval go. Are you guys? Yes, he was entertaining. He was.

Yeah, he really was. And from Max June, it's Sandoval still a piece of shit? Yes, like, both can be true. Yeah. That was the funniest part when we posted that thing about Tom being entertained. People were like, he is the most deplorable human, blah, blah, blah. It's like, look, guys, we're not saying he's a stand-up citizen. We're saying he was fucking funny and fun to watch on a show and who'd have thought his redemption arc would come from the traitors.

We thought he was going to be a shit show and he was, but in tremendous fashion. It is what it is. The best fashion possible. And I love that he thinks he's now redeemed. He thinks everybody loves him again. No, this is a standalone event. You were very entertaining. We don't hate you nearly as much, but that's just because time has passed, not because of what you did in the traders.

Correct. Yeah. It can be that simple. uh from christa hernandez 84 did dolow purposely make brit think that she was voting for daniel i fucking wish but no i think so i just i don't see that at all i really wish it off of her previous gameplay i don't think so no yeah and we've been hoping and praying that dolow has just been playing a completely different game a different strategy than what she's letting on this whole time we always thought that she had a dinner there is a chance that she's vindictive towards tom and she is not listening to

anybody else just making up her own mind i think that's probably more so the case let's do one more all right from hildita la del barrio no question just gabby killed it i thought she did i thought she handled herself very well in that moment i think that she did a good enough job to potentially sway this vote because again if brittney's sitting there like racking her brain who do i vote for iver or daniel and she goes back to gabby's arguments i think there's enough presented there where if she votes for daniel it doesn't look suspicious like i think there's a lot of reasons that she could vote for daniel uh yeah but but i i just don't know if that's gonna happen it would be insane if she fucked daniel over in big brother and then does it again in traitors

that would be the most traitorous shit ever and that's the name of the show so that's what we're I mean, that's what I'm hoping for. I'm hoping that it's, because I want the faithful to win. I'm team Gabby and team Dylan. I want them to win. You can get Iva. Alivar is irrelevant to me. He always has been.

If he did enough here, great. He's still kind of, like, kind of an asshole. My thing is like, we love Dolo, but Dolo has not been playing a good game. You played a bad game. I want the people who have tried really hard, who have played a good game in my mind to be the ones who win. Danielle has not played a good game. She was built with this whole trader thing. She was dealt that hand.

She's played it terribly. And she's gotten lucky because the faithfuls are idiots for the most part. And she was vindictive towards the other traders. And it worked out in her favor. But I still don't think it was a good gameplay. And I don't think she deserves a win. Brittany can win. I'd be okay with Brittany wins.

I just want Danielle to lose. Yeah. And I think that I will always land on the side of credit where credits do. I don't think that she's played a good game, but she is still standing. And it's gone into her favor time and time again. Is that luck? is that just this wacky way she's playing the game? I don't know.

So I'm not going to say that, but I would. I'm team Gabby, team, team Dylan all the way. So I want them to wait. One more thing that we do want to talk about. Did you see the rumor running out there? And it could be from Carolyn's camp. It could be from the survivor people. People are saying that Danielle broke her NDA and told Brittany that she was a traitor early on.

I saw that. I don't know. I mean, I don't think I believe that one. Yeah, I just don't. If you're going to throw out a substantial claim like that, like there should be solid evidence. Like we've, we've learned there would be repercussions.

Like if we found out what it like did they not find out until they were editing the show and it was already over with like maybe, but I don't know. I don't believe that. Like they saw it. They would have seen it while we were going through it and there would have been some sort of penalty. So I,

I've dealt with enough Bravo rumors in our tenure to in my like we are at a place where if you're going to make bold claims, you better have substantial evidence to back it up or I'm not going to buy it. So, yeah, that one, I don't know. I think that that's part of the people don't like how she's playing the game. So let's throw this one out there too. Like that one, yeah, I think we're on the same page there. You can just be, you can be a hater and not make up rumors.

Just look at me. Yeah, look at shooter. Yeah, shoot a big brother. It's my favorite, my favorite new thing. Player hater's ball. But you got anything else? Nope. No, that's all I got.

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