Bros & Shows - Ain't No Party like a Mozz Party (RHONJs13ep02, RHOMs05ep13, VPRs09ep02, SummerHouses07ep02)

Episode Date: February 17, 2023

The Bro's are post Super Bowl loss but we're finally starting to recover... Up first we are back at the Summer House for a very rough start to the Summer. In an uneventful episode, Lindsay and Carl's relationship has changed the dynamic in the house. Kyle and Carl's relationship is strained and Carl considers his role in Lover Boy. In Miami, the ladies have a peaceful day on vacation minus some potential witchcraft. In Vanderpump, we finally get to see some movement over at Schwartz and Sandy's. Tom and Katie are still trying to navigate their relationship and Raquel is on a journey to find herself. Finally, in Jersey the drama with Teresa and Melissa continues. Marge and Jen have it out and the Mozz Making Party gets a little hectic... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host. Steele Russell, joined, as always, by the one and only, shooty-mogoodie. Starting off the funny one, I guess. Well, I'm fine. Everything's fine.

We're fine. Everything's fine. We've got a note for all the sickos, all the scumbags that are tuning in this week, just to hear me and steal cry. It's not going to happen. You know what? We're over it. I'm definitely not over it.

I'm still very much under it. I'm working through it, though. You know, it was tough. I will say probably the, my highlight of the Super Bowl was the amount of our listeners that messaged us and commented and simply asking if we're okay, saying that they're not even football fans, but they were rooting for the birds. We had people in different countries that don't watch football saying that they were birds fans on Sunday.

So like, that whole response was pretty cool. It took something that was like really, really shitty. I was like, oh, that's kind of sweet. At least we have support. I mean, there was obviously some other people that were not as cool. And fuck you guys, but other than those select few, it was a nice response. No, yeah, you're right. It was one of those things that I can't believe that I was even thinking about it.

Well, I was thinking about it before the game. You know, what was I going to tweet out from the Bravo's account that night? And I decided to just wait a day. You know, I was quite intoxicated Sunday, and it went from happiness to just complete misery. And I was good. Honestly, Monday, obviously very hungover, tweeted out, you know, give us a little. some space and like you said there was a lot of people that were like feel for you hope you guys have a good week after all this and all that shit doesn't really help but i guess it made us feel a

little bit better and i was good honestly really i was good i had my cathartic like all right great season we're good and then i saw jason kelsey oh yeah crying i was like fuck me i'm depressed again but you know what it's a work in progress we're getting there it's a work in progress and what other people that are not philly fans need to realize is this is what we live with all the time. We got a... Sixers season down. Now we got another one to let us down probably in a couple of months, but we'll say.

It's what they do. Our teams will get very far and build up our hopes and dreams and make us feel untouchable and then break our hearts. And that's what being a Philadelphia fan is. I'd like to say that we're used to it, but... It still sucks every time. It really does. But moving on from that, have you watched Jenny and Georgia?

No. No, I just flew through you. Oh, we just started it. started it. Yeah, so they did the first half thing, so six episodes now, six episodes later. Okay. It's great TV. Honestly, I hated it when it first started. I'm like, this is stupid. Growing on you?

Yeah, no. Now I'm like, for what it is, this is so fun. We watched the first episode today, actually. I like that they're going to a different direction. It's more like a murder mystery, which is kind of fun. I like that a lot. But real quick, because I'm sure we have listeners that watch Jenny in Georgia. So you'll appreciate this because it's

one of those things that I know it's TV, but the attention to details, you know, like when they blatantly fuck something up, I'm like, why? It doesn't make sense. So, the town's up in arms about the school budget for the majority of both seasons. Like, the school budget, for whatever reason, is a big fucking deal to this town.

Okay? Yeah. So they're allocating funds because Georgia's marrying the mayor and, like, they're going to this whole thing where they're allocating the funds. They need to cut back on the school budget because they need money for other stuff. The theater department in this school. When I tell you, first of all, that kids are the most talented kids in the world.

We haven't seen a cast like this since, like, high school musical, but it's not a musical thing. Wow. Second, their director slash choreographer clearly knows his shit. Like, this guy can't be cheap. And third, the set design is that of Broadway. So I'm sitting here, and I'm like, okay, well, hold on. What the fuck are these parents paying for?

If this is what the tax money is going to? What is the school budget? Honestly. I don't, at least half of the school budget is going to these plays, and it's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. So if you're a Jenny and Georgia fan, pay attention to the play. Because if you need more money for the school, run a normal school performance. You don't have to blow it out the door for this.

People coming in and buying tickets from everywhere. Maybe. But maybe it's like their main profit stream. I don't know. Maybe the tickets are expensive. But it just pissed me off. I'm like, okay, well, you can't ask for more money if this is what you're spending it on. The costumes, they have like real leather.

I'm like, you can't wear real leather costumes in a play at school. That's crazy. I don't think, first of all, I don't think I've ever heard you make a reference to high school musical before. Oh, I know the first one verbatim because Riley was, my sister Riley, was like 11, I think, at the time. So it was on repeat. I mean, repeat. I could probably close the movie. That goes to show you the people that were like, stick to what you guys know, reality TV, not sports.

I was like, oh, this is starting to fucking add up. I guess this is our lives now. This is our life. This is what we chose to do. It's what we want to do for a long time. So welcome, Shooter, to the rest of your life. But let's get into it. Little Rosen Thorn, and there's obviously a major thorn that we're both sharing this week.

And I'm going to start out with my thorn. All right, because this one made me mad. And, like, the thing about this week, of all weeks, if he chose to come at us, like, I was not in the mood. Okay, I'm usually not in the mood. You have to pull me back sometimes from over responding to comments I don't like. but this one pissed me off a lot. I only went back twice.

I only went back twice. But it was on TikTok, and it's from the Andy video. And we said last week, like, we don't hate Andy. We've never said we hate Andy. Like, we just have qualms with Andy at certain points, and we call them out on it. You hate Andy? No. No, I don't.

Yeah, no. I'm trying to wrap my head around. I don't know. I'm all over the fucking place, but I just now realized that when we do the Rosenthorn, I usually look at, like, videos that we posted in the last week. I, it never even occurred to me to go back. Oh, well, here's the thing. Because there are more comments compiling.

Oh, yeah. So I see it now, like, with, like, Twitter notifications. I'll see somebody comment on something from, like, six months ago. And I'm like, yo, get with the times. We're not talking about Dorit anymore. Well, since, like, I run the TikTok, I get the TikTok. Yeah, no, yeah. So, like, people will comment on shit from, like, seven months ago.

Jesus. All right. But this one came back from the Andy video. And I'm not going to read the name because you don't deserve the credit. he goes, what we're not going to do is have two straight guys attack Andy. Y'all need to sit down. I responded, now we'll probably stay right here. He responded, well, what's not going to happen is two cis straight men trying to tear down

one of the most prominent gay men on television just because he doesn't like your fave. Replied one more time, and I just said, we don't have faves. We also like Andy. We comment when we disagree. Glad to see you're so open-minded. Like I said, we're going to stay right here. Because, like, dude, I love your interactions with trolls, though. Like, I just can't.

Like, dude, like, first of all, I hate the fact that he started both with what we're not going to do. And what, well, first off, he called us straight. Then the second time he called a cis straight. So I do wonder what the third level would be of that. I really only speculate. What was the one last week? Cis hat. Cisette.

So cis het straight. Cis het straight. I'm not kind of redundant. I don't know. I just want to know what the third level of that is. But, yeah, your interactions with the trolls always make me laugh. Why? Because you get so offended.

I'm not offended. It's more just like if you hit me with a bad comment at the right moment. Like, if I'm in a mood, I'm like, well, fuck you. Like I. And this one just pissed me off. And it's honestly, it's his phrasing just because he started the first one off with what we're not going to do. And then he goes, well, what's not going to happen? Like, we get it.

You're trying to sound tough. You don't sound tough. Also, probably one of the guys early on that was like, I got to be on this show, man, I've got a lot of opinions. It's like, fuck you. Yeah. And this is why you're not on the show. But anyway, on to my rose. And my rose is from Twitter.

And I like this one because it was not in response to any of our posts. It wasn't in response to anything. It was just the morning after the Super Bowl. And at Missy Pink 05 comments at Brab Bros. Checking on the Brab Bros after last night. I'm from New York and kind of rooted for the Eagles for you guys. The fact that somebody took the time to wake up and go, fuck, I need to check on those guys. Like, you were right to check on us, first of all.

And second off, thank you. It was really sweet. It is really sweet. And we got a lot of that after the NFC championship game. People were just, they weren't tagging us in anything. They were just, you know, tweeting out there. Somebody check on the broad bros because they may have, like, party too hard the night before. It's like, yeah, all right.

We appreciate that, too. A little wellness check. So that'll bring me right into my rows we're going to start off with, because it works exactly with what you just did. And this is from Giselle's stylist. Hey, I wonder if she's actually her stylist. I hope so. She said, I'm so sorry about, I don't know what this is also.

It's quote unquote, the birds, yeah. People did that all day. I don't know. That's not a quote unquote of birds. It makes it seem disingenuous. Now I'm like, do you know what we're talking about? Probably not. I'm sorry about the birds.

The Rob Rose had my entire family rooting for the Eagles. I'm a diehard FSU Seminole and transplanted Chicago Bears fan and I was rooting for Philly just as hard. Never thought I'd wear teal, which we wear midnight green. Midnight green, whatever. It's close enough. It's the thought that counts. It's the sentiment.

I'll take it. So that was really nice. It made me feel a little bit better about misery. And then your thorn came in to rip you down again. Yeah. Well, unfortunately, there were a lot of thorns this week. People seemed to think that we were like taking a really hard stance on Teresa versus Melissa. We were not.

All we were doing was just discussing. And you idiots went through there. And we're like, fuck you guys. Melissa had to go through hell for 15 years or absolutely you got to take Teresa's sides. We were just discussing the sides. Like, God damn. The more surprising thing to me was how split it was.

It seemed to be like right down the middle. Yeah. No, that's actually a pretty good point. And one of those that came through, and this one actually pisses me off. And look, like we get this for a lot of the shows. But Jersey, like I've watched a lot of Jersey. And you've watched a good amount of Jersey.

I already know which one you're going to say. And it's just from someone just said, these guys need to watch back a few seasons. We've been fucking watching this show. Like, we don't claim to watch from the beginning for a lot of these shows. Like, that's kind of why our opinions and

our input on these shows is pretty genuine. And it's a fresh take for a lot of people, and I think a lot of people appreciate that. I don't fucking know. But this is something that we've watched a lot of. Like, I'm pretty knowledgeable on Jersey because before even watching it, like, I would hear other people talk about it because it's a premiere show.

And it's also close to home. and we also know a lot of people from Jersey and we're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. But this is like, that one kind of pissed me off because we actually do watch that. So, yeah, we did watch last few seasons. And again, we weren't even taking a hard stance on it. We were just saying, hey, it's fucking wild to see Teresa apologize.

It's wild to see her not scream and yell at somebody and, like, flip a table in their face. Has she turned a new leaf? She's swallowing her tongue when she's talked, like before even saying anything. She's sitting there completely straight-faced and talking about, like, a new path. It's crazy to me.

It's like a new person. So we talked about that. Yeah. Which, that's what we do here. We talk about these things. So, like, I was right there. I saw someone else say, like, yeah, these guys sound like newbies or something. It's like, first of all, it's the premise of the show is us diving into this shit.

But, like, Shooter said, we are somewhat knowledgeable on Jersey, and we were just reviewing the scene. Exactly. But anyway. But there was one that pissed me off. And this is probably the one that you thought it was. You're scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find something positive about Teresa. How about having an independent thought and not trying to please the toxic fandom to gain views? Well, if we were doing that, it was split down the middle, so we could have picked either side.

If we were picking a side, which we didn't. Yeah, that one just kind of pissed me off too because it's like, all right, this guy, I even looked at it and I'm like not engaging with this guy because I looked at his replies and he was going after like athletes, musicians. If they said something, he just put like a troll comment out there like, this dude gets. off on trying to get somebody to, like, bait or trying to bait somebody into talking to him. It's like, nah, it's a good thing that you kicked me off of Twitter. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the next day I would have seen that, like, nah, we'll stay right here, buddy. And then like 15 more messages, like, dude, he's got seven followers.

Leave a load. Yeah, you have. All right. But let's get to the news. And we got some more drama coming out with Brandy. And it seems to be getting worse and worse for. her so I guess at some point in the night one of the producers she went up to him and said like do you want to fuck me later more or less which whoa and I guess they tried to sweep it for a while they were trying to not I guess she knows the producer and they were acting like oh she was just joking but I think it got a little more a little more uncomfortable than that and then it comes out that I guess the whole thing that happened between her and Caroline was in a bathroom like not on camera not anything like that she tried to touch her in multiple places like just really gross bad bad allegations and if any

of these are true like she's done done you can't come back and you shouldn't be able to come back if those are true no and i fully agree and am i surprised by this not really because we watched her what was the butler's name marco marco yeah we watched her with like margo talking about they're like trying to get his shirt off and shit and at the time it was like oh okay and like people liked it and i'm like that's fucking weird but i think you commented on this show Yeah, I absolutely did because I thought it was fucking bizarre. But yeah, no, you're completely right. If there's any truth to all of these things, which there's a lot of these things,

then she's got to be done. And whatever tape they might have with her in maybe she pops up or she was planning on popping up in Beverly Hills or O.C. or whatever, they're just going to have to scrub the whole thing. Just whack it. She's not worth it. She's not polarizing enough. She's not fun enough.

I don't care. Just get rid of her. I agree. I agree. And up next, I know we said we wouldn't talk about it until it came back around because we needed a break. But there's been a lot of stuff with Kyle in the media recently, and one thing stuck out to me. In Hollywood life, she was quoted saying that she wants the show to be more fun. And I know we talked about her previously saying that her all-star team would somehow now include Sutton and Garcell.

She's now saying, like, I just wanted to be fun again. Is this false hope for you? Or is this, like, maybe a glimmer of hope that maybe we can move past what we went through this last season? If I'm being entirely honest, I pay you for. Fully over, like, I'm good with Beverly Hills right now. You just don't want it. No, no, I want it back.

Oh, yeah, me too. I'm fine. I'm, like, actually kind of happy that it's coming, like, they're filming again. I'm like, cool, this is great. I'm actually a little excited for the new dynamics. Like, I've even been seeing pictures and, like, videos of Erica walking around talking about whatever. And I'm like, fuck, yeah, Eric.

yeah what are you talking about and also all these dickheads who are out here saying like we don't we don't go after like or we go after Erica too hard and we don't go after this person or whatever I actually saw a video of Erica last week where a paparazzi guy was talking to her about Tom and she's like I'm just not ready to talk about it and then she's like I just said what I'm not ready to talk about I'm like fuck yeah Erica yeah you shouldn't have to you know what last year we ripped her but last season wasn't sufferable if you know we've got no Rina just stirring up dumb shit I'm actually kind of looking forward to it yeah no I'm starting to get there, too. I think I'm getting ready for the new dynamics. I think it will be a much more interesting show without Renna in there. I think that Diana's not coming back either, right? No, she's, no. So I think that with this new crew, and if they are focused on at least attempting to have more fun, not attempting to ruin each other's lives, then we're in for a much better season. Now, do you think that Beverly Hills is kind of like Philly Sports, where we're getting our hopes up, and then we're just getting a crushed again? Well, it's us, so yeah, definitely. We're only set up for failure here but two more quick things and um the first one we got to say

au rovois to captain lee is hanging it up i don't know if he was forced out by bravo i don't know if it's a health decision on his part i don't know if the health decision was used against him to kind of get him out of there i hope not but look he's been a like a staple in bravo for a long time. Great run. Yeah, it's been a hell of a run. So, Captain Lee, we salute you, buddy. Maybe we can get you on the show one day.

Yeah, that'd be great. It'd be kind of fun. We'd have to wear, like, a Cat and Lee shirt. Oh, I thought you're going to wear, like, yacht gear. I was going to get on. No, no, no, we have to wear one of his, like, signature shirts. Oh, like a Tommy Bahama shirt. Yeah.

I'll get some loafers, too. Yeah, we have to dress like Cat. I think he'll appreciate it. I think he's a dude that maybe retired. Oh, I don't know. I think he's a no bullshit kind of guy. He might not be retired down. He might, you know, maybe he'll just flip a switch and just be full on time with Bahama guy.

Do like the Andy Reed, like the short sleeve Hawaiian shirt at all times, like fully unbuttoned, and he's just like ready to enjoy life. I guess we'll have to find out. We'll start working on that. But the last thing, we are two days away from Jen Shaw entering prison. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and that's it. I'm not talking about it anymore, but that's just a statement of facts.

Smell you later. Yeah. Enjoy. Six and a half years. Maybe they'll put Salt Lake on hiatus after that year. and then you can come back. But we are currently in a season of premieres. A lot of things have been coming out,

and we obviously have to review all of them. But after watching Summer House, I don't think we have to dive that far into this. There's one thing that we need to talk about, but other than that, I don't feel the need to recap the whole thing. No, I mean, after watching this, the episode, it's like there's some people there

that are worth keeping around in some capacity and the rest of them, like, I don't really care. No, I think it's, you know, let's dive right in. So the main issue in the house is Lindsay and Carl and Kyle. Okay, like that seems to be the center focus

and it's pretty much focused, I think, around Lindsay and Carl. So how do you feel about like the Maya thing? All right? So like, I guess they were on family feud out in L.A., and then afterwards she hit him up, like, hey, let's go smoke some weed. Yeah.

Lindsay lost her shit and like went off on Maya saying that she wanted to bang Carl and like she's overstepping and like she did I mean we watched last season I never really got the idea I mean like Maya once yeah like I just never really understood it and Maya is like trying to kind of ingratiate ourselves or trying to ingratiate herself with this crew still like she was new last year she was fun but she didn't really do a whole lot. So she's just trying to be friends, I think, like, I don't really think it's that big of a deal, but I'm not surprised that Lindsay flipped out because that's, like, her personality. I'm not surprised at all, but I thought it was super shitty when Maya, first of all, I thought I was sketchy that Paige was like, you should go talk to Carl, not go talk to Lindsay. Yeah. I thought that was a little shady. Could be Paige just trying to stir us the shit.

Like, she does that. I know. It might be like, I'll go talk to Carl about it. I don't know. But Carl's response to this whole thing was terrible. Yeah. She goes and sits him down and has this conversation. She's like, look, and first off, I thought that Carl felt scorn that he hadn't talked to her in a while.

I haven't talked to you since L.A. And she's like, well, yeah, because Lindsay made it pretty clear, I should not talk to you because I'm overstepping because I want to hook up with you at some point. Carl's like, oh, I never heard that. But instead of being like, you know what, there's so many different ways he could have went about this and he picked the worst way just to be a total dick about it. He's like, you know, I'm in a relationship now. I'm trying to respect her boundaries. So, like, I don't know what to tell you pretty much. Like, fuck you.

Yeah, I just don't understand it. I mean, he could have also just been like, look, I didn't know about any of this. Pretty much what you just said. Why don't you go talk to Lindsay about it and squash it? Because we have to fucking live together most of the summer. Yeah. Let's not have this be a huge issue. But I don't really understand.

I kind of want to talk about the Lindsay and Carl relationship. I will get into that. But in this situation, And yeah, just go tell Maya to go talk to Lindsay, squash the beef, figure out what it is. And look, if Lindsay wants to hold on to it the whole summer because she does that, let her do that. But at least you get to say your piece. And then you can go back and tell Paige and whoever, hey, I talk to Lindsay, she's not letting it go. But fuck it, whatever.

I don't care because this is what she does. Exactly. Like, that's all you have to do. I guess if you're Maya in that situation, too, you kind of have to use your brain and be like, look, Lindsay flipped out when I tried to text Carl to see if you wanted to smoke. I can't now go back to Carl when I've got the issue with Lindsay She's just going to see me as like skirting around her Let me go talk to Lindsay about it

So everybody's wrong in this situation I think the big overlying factor of this is I don't really give a shit Oh, I don't fucking care It sucks I don't care, I didn't care about the whole episode I was texting you during it like this is ridiculous This is stupid

So here's my big thing with Lindsay and Carl All right If you are happy in your relationship And if you guys are moving forward with your life that's fine, go do that. No one's rooting against you guys. Even Kyle, like, he wants you guys to be successful. He's saying that he's been checked out.

Like, Carl's been MIA with lover boy and all these other things. So that's not the problem. And they seem to think that that's the problem. The problem is just because you've turned this new leaf, all right? And now you're in a loving relationship with a guy that you really care about. Does not mean that you're suddenly better than everybody else in the house, Carl, just because you're now sober. And this is coming from a sober person, just because you're now sober.

in a loving relationship that you're excited for and you're not doing these crazy things anymore does not mean that you suddenly get to be a dick about it. You know what you're walking into, right? Like, it's the summer house. There's going to be loud music. There's going to be parties. You don't have to sit there when Kyle's setting up the speaker and make passive-aggressive

comments about it. That's fucking stupid. And have your back turns the entire time. Right. Then for Lindsay to say that the text message from Maya talking about weed was problematic because of his sobriety when that's not the reason that you gave to Maya you told Maya it's because she was overstepping and she wanted to hook up with your guy which one is it because those are two very different things and you can't fucking use sobriety as like a weapon or a way for you to be like

oh well you were messing with his sobriety so of course I stepped in that's not what we heard that's a really good point yeah and it's fucking ridiculous and the last thing I'll say on it I'm I'm being sensitive here because Carl's gone through a lot and he's having a hard time staying sober and I respect that. I appreciate that. Like, it's hard. No, that's a good point. I just think that the show overall,

just to kind of touch on the Carl Kyle dynamic that's going on here, it's kind of funny because, like, we watch these shows with a bit of a different perspective now. After talking to a couple people, like Chris, you know,

we talked to Sutton, Crystal, talking about like the filming process and the editing and everything. And like, when I sit there and like, I'll watch it with Colleen and like, we'll talk about things. She even said, like, do you think that,

Carl and Lindsay are really that disgusting of a relationship to watch, like overbearing and annoying as hell and they think that they're better, or do you think that Bravo's producing is just kind of playing up the whole Carl Kyle thing? I think there's a lot there with the Carl Kyle thing. I really do think that maybe Carl just needs to step away from lover boy to let his relationship and friendship with Kyle flourish again, because I think that the dynamic of working with your best friend who owns, or I guess owns part of the company,

runs the company and you're below him. He expects a lot out of you as a friend and he expects a lot out of you as an employee. So it's kind of tough to break between the two, especially when you have that past that Carl has where he was just hammered at these parties going to see clients and then not showing up to work the next day, not doing any work.

And Kyle stood by him because he was his friend. Like that whole relationship working is just, it's not working. No, it's not. So maybe you do need to, just in a productive way, sit with Kyle and just be like, Hey, man, I'm kind of checked out on this. I just don't think that this is a good fit for me anymore. I think it's kind of straining our friendship.

I think I'm going to take a step away and go do something else with my career. Kyle would understand. Like, he might be but hurt a little bit because he's like, dude, like, I took by you, whatever. Kyle is kind of annoying. But at the end of the day, like, if you guys want to be friends again, you probably do need to walk away from all that. So that's kind of my feeling on the whole thing. But overall, again, I can't stress this enough. The show kind of sucks.

The show sucks. They went to bed. at fucking what 1230 that night and the next day they were just stressing about working out at 7 a I'm like I'm sorry and you've seen me like when you go on vacation like you don't go around the fucking house you're gonna go work out in the morning

you don't go around the house and you're like start checking things out like all right we're doing this like no I'm staying up until two playing beer pong and I'm gonna sleep in and then I'm gonna go to the beach and I'm gonna eat a fucking bacon egg and cheese that's terrible for me but it's gonna make me feel better this is kind of like a Carl being kind of a dickhead and he's the whole dynamic of the summer house has changed we want to watch parties i don't

want to watch people go to bed at 12 o'clock in their mid 30s and then wake up at 7 a.m and work out that's boring to me that's a real life that's not on bravo that's what i do every fucking day yeah like i don't want to watch that shit and you bring up a great point because this is kind of the dynamic with our friend group just as far as when we go on like framley trips framley Framly, but when we go away together, like, I'm the sober guy in the house, and that's fine. And there's some, nobody gives a shit. And, like, there's some nights you guys are, like, partying late, and, like, I'll check out. I don't say anything about it.

I work out most of the time when we're there. I don't say a fucking word. I walk out the door, and if people are like, hey, where are you going? I'm like, oh, I'm going to work out. And if they want to join me, feel free. Yeah. But never, ever, ever. Fucking boot camp.

Never be the guy that walks around the house going, you're coming tomorrow? There's room. We got room. We got space. If you wake up and you're out there. It's not like, of course you have space. Leonardo of fucking Da Vinci stayed at your... Stayed at your house.

Like, of course there's space outside. Like, you live in a huge house in the Hamptons for the weekend. There's space everywhere. Oh, they mean space in the class, you dickhead. What class? Barry's boot camp is like a... Oh, really was? Barry's? I thought it was Carl that was doing it.

No, it's Barry's boot camp. See, that's how checked out I was. I didn't care. I was like, this is so dumb. This is so stupid. And also, you know what, Carl? You're not Barry, buddy? Don't check in and see who's...

going and who's not just fucking go you coming you coming no they're gonna get drunk and sleep in because that's what we watch this show for i don't i don't go to bed early they all because they killed the fucking vibe dude you can't ruin the vibe and then expect to just jump on i know i think this is on bravo bravo should have just cori should have been like a full-time cast member because you know what cori can go booze hard and then go workout the next day it's the best of both yeah and you know what when i saw cori from the scenes from this season i was excited i was like thank God, this guy's going to be there. Bring some new life into it.

Just to mix it up a little bit. Like, we are watching a show with, like, four couples in the Hamptons. That's not a show. That's not a show. No. That's fucking TLC. They're going to go get brunch. They're going to, no, I don't even think it's TLC.

I think it's nothing. It's just, it's not a show. No. And I don't want to see it anymore. Although I think they did replace, who was your boy, who you were like, ah, he was so nice. He was a good thing. Oh, Riley? No, Alex. Alex.

Yeah, they replaced him with the Marine guy, I think. but the Marine guy seems a little more fun. The Marine guy... I don't even know his name. Chris. Checked it, Chris. Yeah. Chris was...

In the beginning, like, my first impression, I was like, no, I don't know. I don't know. And then I loved how he dropped the Marine line because, like, you know, if a guy was cocky and like an asshole, he could have walked him like, oh, yeah, I served or whatever. Instead, he's like, oh, Barry's boot camp tomorrow, which now you know is a real thing. I knew what Barry's boot camp was. I just didn't know that they were going to that. I thought it was Carl's camp.

No, no. He's like, oh, Barry's boot camp. He's like, oh, no, I went to real boot camp. And then that's how it came out. I was like, oh, respect. I like that. I like that move. And thank you for your service.

And he was also the next day, like, playing with a huge bottle and, like, hanging out. Like, he was fun. So I'll give him something. I think it'll be fun when Corey comes in. I just don't know if this is. And you see, like, a lot of chatter of people. They're kind of checked out, too. I mean, we'll just kind of see how this goes and we'll monitor it.

We're in for a dramatic season, for better or worse. I don't know if it's going to be captivating or not, but it's going to be tumultuous. So buckle up. but now we're off to Miami people said there's a comment about the air horn they're like oh my god I laughed out loud when I heard the Miami horn good yeah so it played but um not much to talk about this episode no and it's kind of fine honestly I mean I would say overall I really do think that the dynamic of the whole group changes when Marisol is not there.

And it's because Alexia doesn't have her little minion or a little monkey, I fucking hate when they say that. And Alexia was a different person. Like she didn't have that one person that's always just ride or die with her. So she mended relationships and she was fun. Nicole had a great trip plans. They went to the Bahamas. The president of the fucking resort welcomed them and took them to their presidential

suites thought that was a really nice touch the rooms all look nice nobody's bitching about their their beds or anything it was just a nice trip and they got to go do some fun activities and everybody split up a little bit you can see a little bit of tension between alexia and adriana forming yeah but overall nobody really had beef with each other except for talking about witchcraft and it was kind of a nice reprieve because we know that like next week even though they teased it last week i thought we were getting at this with the alexia fight yeah it's a little buffer i think next week seems like it's going to be brutal. I did not know what Adriana said to Alexia until I saw that.

Did you see the clip for the beginning? No. Oh. I kind of want you to see next week. Well, you've got to tell me what she said. Essentially, she said, well, there are repercussions when accidents happen. You know that from your son. What?

Yeah. Oh. Yeah. So now I'm like, all right, fuck that. Like, yikes. That's really, really, really, really bad. Oh, my God. Really dark, yeah.

And I don't know why they played it now. I don't know why they showed the clip of it before the episode today because they did, I guess they did like, here's how things went, and then like, we're going to peel it back, and then we're going to go to Bahamas and show you how it goes. They should have just kept that for shock factor next week, but yeah, that's pretty fucking rough. So, Adriana's fully okay to go completely haywire on Adriana. I'm sorry, Alexia is okay to go fully haywire on Adriana. Absolutely. I can't believe she said that. I'm like actually rattled right now. That's crazy. Oh, my God. Yeah, she has every right right now. I'm speechless right now. I don't even know where to go from there. What a fucked up thing to say. Yeah. No, I mean, so thank you. We got a nice calm episode this week. I will say there was one. Oh, yeah. We're talking about the episode. There we are. The one thing that that kind of makes a little bit of sense now. After seeing the scene,

with Alexia and her ex-husband. Yeah. With her two sons. She's like, yeah, you know, like they really like them. I really want to make sure that they have like a good relationship with their father, blah, blah, blah. It brought me back to a couple weeks ago when Alexia was talking to Nicole about her father. And I was like, oh, so at least she does do what she preaches. Like she wasn't just like interjecting and being like, oh, you need to do this.

I'm Alexia. You have to do what I say. She actually really does it. Like her ex-husband went to jail twice. Yeah. She said goes to school twice. Yeah, he went to school twice. You should have his master's now.

Yeah, 10 years will do it. But, you know, I guess hats off to her. Like, she still wants her kids to have a good relationship with their father, despite, you know, what's been going on in his life, and she's not just pulling them away. So, you know, good for her. Yeah, no, I'll give her credit where credits do. I mean, we always do.

Are you coming around on Alexia? No, I'm not at all. I'm not at all. I feel terrible for her for what was said to her. But no, I'm not. I am in no way, shape, or form coming around, Alexia. We'll see how the end of the season goes. Don't lump me in with you here.

But this is the thing is, like, we do come around on people that piss us off in the beginning of season. Oh, yeah, usually. Yeah. There's usually at least one or two that we'll be like, oh, okay, I get it. But I agree with you. The reprieve episode was really nice. I enjoyed this episode. I just didn't think there was, like, a whole lot to discuss.

I thought that it was fucking hilarious that the center focus of this episode was whether or not Adriana put a curse on Marisol. Yeah. But it was dead. And then I got really confused. They all take it very seriously, yeah. I got really confused because Alexia was explaining it. And she was like, it doesn't matter what you say if your intentions are different. So it's like, you can even have the best intent.

And then she got like muddled because she's like, you can have the best intentions. But if you don't truly feel it, so it's like, okay, by this theory of cursing somebody, if at any point during you giving them like positive reinforcement, you have any inkling of a bad thought. Even if you don't feel that thought, it just might even pop into your brain or it might just be in your body somewhere. You're going to curse them. So if I say, I hope that you win a million dollars tomorrow. But if anywhere in me is like jealous or anything, then I'm cursing you. I put the evil eye on you. I guess, yeah. I mean, I don't want to dig too deep into it because maybe we'll end up, like, cursing each other by proxy.

I don't really, you know. That's not curse each other. I don't want any of that action. But I thought, like, hearing them discuss it, like, they're all pretty much knowledgeable of it. It was interesting. I was like, all right, this is pretty cool. But, yeah, other than that, like, that's pretty much it.

The rest of the, they went down the tubes. You had the golden girls on one side. You had the fun girls on the other side, and everybody seemed to get along, and that was kind of nice to watch. I thought it was hysterical, though, that Adriana and Alexia are coming to some sort of, like peace offering amongst each other. And Adriana even says, like, yeah, when Marisol's here, I feel like it's tough. And out of nowhere with a megaphone, Marisol pops in.

Of course, the fucking megaphone. I know. Every time. And then Alexia immediately pops up. Smell you later, Adriana. I'm out of here. Yeah, that's the thing is. And again, like Marisol's a friend of, but it doesn't, it's all budget oriented, I think,

that like Marisol's in every fucking episode. She's in the episodes more than some of the other one. Yeah, it's just, it's got to be budget-oriented to that they don't have to pay her as much as the other housewives or whatever. But, yeah, you can see that immediately. Like, Alexia just turns cheek, runs the other way, talks to Marisol, and then it's on next week.

Yeah, well, rightfully so. Fuck that. I can't believe she said that. I'm still, like, I'm still recovering. Holy shit. But now I see why you wanted me to see it, like, live. Yeah, I didn't want you to hear it from me. I would have called you like, dude, what?

But that takes us to my favorite of all time. My OG, my heart of hearts, Vanderpump rules. What did you think, episode two? Well, we got to watch the episode together. It was delightful. I know. We got a little watch party here. Yeah, we snuggled up close, one blanket.

We didn't do that. No, I'm still enjoying it, obviously. I like that it's doing well. because this is one of those things. I don't know if you ever look at the ratings and, you know, you're the ratings guy, your ethics and stuff. It's, I mean, it's higher rated. It has way more watchers, or I guess viewers, you should say,

than, like, Salt Lake did, obviously way more than, like, Southern Charm and other things. So it's nice to see a non-houseway franchise do so well. It has so much interest. Almost like I told you it would. Almost like I said, this is bigger than you think it is. Yeah, but you didn't have any analytics to bring. to the table, you were just like, it's so good, dude. I watch it all the time.

Big numbers guy, big numbers guy. Yeah, big numbers guy. Yeah, but I'm thoroughly enjoying it. That's refreshing to hear because it's my favorite. If you didn't like it, we would probably be finished. The podcast will be over. No, there's still time. We start at Schwartz and Sandys, and that's kind of what the whole episode centers around, and they're getting ready for the Daily Mail party, and they're not opened yet.

They're not opening yet, but this is their first event. So it needs to go off really well, obviously, because the Daily Mail is a big publication. So if they fucked this up They had like a runway and everything Or I guess red carpet Red carpet Yeah Runway?

I don't know Are you? Am I okay? Maybe because Oh the page A walk in the page Yeah yeah yeah yeah That's what it was okay

That's how they look into the psyche of shooter right there But we get introduced We've been introduced to Greg before He was in last season But Greg is their partner What do you think of Greg? I don't know It's just like

At first, I'm like, he had no idea what he was getting into. No. He doesn't even realize there's a show going on. He probably just heard from Lisa, like, this is a really good opportunity, and he just invested blindly, and now he's practically shooting himself in the foot with all this. But now I'm like, I think he knows that Schwartz and Sandys can be huge. Yeah. But he's now playing it up with the cameras.

Like, these guys are idiots. They don't know what they're doing. They don't know the business at all. And he has to have this conversation with Lisa. So, like, I don't really know. I can't really get a gauge on him if he's actually a savvy businessman or if he's now trying to get, like, a little bit of fame on the cameras. It's just, I'm a little confused by the whole Greg thing, but it's a very serious dude.

And I am not surprised at all that he rides a motorcycle. No, that was the least surprising reveal ever when he's like, I fill off my motorcycle. I was like, Greg, you would drive a fucking motorcycle, buddy. I don't like Greg. I think Greg is a hard ass. I think anybody cut him off or you think he just like? No, he probably, like, fell over trying to get the kicks. standoff or something stupid.

Like, no, I don't like that whole, like, grizzled man of the business where he's like, you kids don't know any better. Like, oh, this, you'll lose your house, you'll lose your wife, you'll lose your kids, you'll end up living in a car in two years. It's like, whoa. Living in a van down by the river. Exactly. But it's like, look, you definitely knew exactly what you were getting into when you went

into business with Tom and Tom. Yeah. What Tom and Tom are and what they are not, okay? They are very good for publicity. They have a massive following. They are famous on TV. They will fill your fucking bar. That I promise you.

What they are not is savvy businessmen. So for you to go into this with them, you should have known that you're going to be pulling most of the weight as far as the business side of things go. Just fucking pump them up. Get them so excited to be the face of this shit. Let them pick a couple of things, like a couple of walls, maybe some tapestries, whatever,

and then let them go publicity. it and then make them feel like they did a lot of things. Give them enough space to do what they're good at. Because they are good at that. They will fill that fucking place, I promise. So for him to take this stance now where he's like, first of all, I think it's shitty to bad

mouth your business partner on TV regardless of how you feel about them. Like, that's a shitty fucking look. Don't do that. Especially to Lisa Vanderpump who kind of like fathered these kids into what they are now as far as their business goes. So for you to say to her, they don't know anything about this fucking business means that she

didn't teach them anything about this business, which means you are inadvertently shitting on Lisa Vanderpump now. She agreed to an extent. I mean, she's pretty much just saying what we're saying right now. Sure. Where he just didn't use them properly. So if anything, this goes back on you, Greg. Let them do the decor because it is a representation of Tom and Tom.

So you guys take care of the decor. I'll handle ordering things. I'll handle the business side of things. You guys make this look like Tom and Tom, make this Schwartz and Sandy's. Get out there. Get us publicity. go do some book signings or whatever the fuck you guys want to do to, like, pump us up. I don't know if they're writing books.

It's a pretty simple way. Maybe they are now. Well, he wrote, I guess Sanneville did write a cocktail book. So, yeah. Like, you just go, get out there, promote us, and they would kill it. Let them make, design it. You figure it out. You order the shit for it.

But like, it's just the whole, Greg, no, I'm not team Greg. Yeah, I feel like it's a pretty easy business plan right there, Greg. Yeah, Greg, we could fucking open shorts and Sandy's. without your stupid fucking hat. But we have to talk about old Pete. Pete and Raquel are still plugging away, and they had one of the most awkward dates I think I've ever seen in my life. And this is coming off the heels of their last date,

which was also super fucking awkward. I mean, it's never good when you're carrying over a not funny joke to another date. No, you got to look. This is my casual shirt. Like, dude, enough. Yeah, we got it. It landed once. I'm so surprised he didn't order not.

Yes. Here's those nachos you wanted to. That would have been better than the casual shirtline. I think it would have been worse. You think it would have been worse? Is it the delivery? It's everything. There's something to that.

The whole thing. There was something to the nacho thing where if like she sat down and like he goes to the bathroom and says, hey, I need you bring me some nachos. And as he's sitting there, like they come out and he's like, uh, I'm doing a hand motion now. I know. I just don't think so. I just, I don't fucking know. Nothing he does. seems like a good move.

He has no swag, all right? Pete has no swag, and I used to feel a different way about Pete. After tonight, and it was literally because of tonight, I feel bad for Pete. I think Pete just wants love, and Pete's just like, he's the bridesmaid. He's never the bride. He's the stepping stone. Hold on.

I think I don't feel bad for him because this has put my mind in Pete's mind for a second. He has that discussion. I get you a ponytail. Yeah, please get me a ponytail, leather jacket. he has that discussion with Lisa 74 seconds before Raquel comes over and dumps him, essentially. In his mind, Lisa also talked to Raquel. Oh, I did not put that. He didn't see the smirk.

He made a little smirk when she came over, and he's like, I get it. I understand. He thinks that Lisa also told Raquel that they shouldn't be dating. He told, or Lisa told Pete, that they shouldn't be dating. So now he's like, I get it. We don't want to date. I wouldn't be surprised if the next couple of things. episodes you see Pete still like

kind of working on the background like maybe maybe we can do this off camera maybe we can do this like on our own man I didn't even think about that but that's a great call because now we don't have to feel bad for Pete because he thinks that this is all well not anymore we can feel bad for Pete today now I feel bad for you today yeah he probably hooked up with another bartender

at a different bar or something he's just branching out his weird hookups with all the service industry people eventually he'll make his way to Charleston the food and Bev over there But I was trying to tie in the food and bed thing. Yeah, so I guess I have to feel bad for Pete tonight after him having to watch that. But at the time, I didn't.

That's fair, I guess. I don't know. I just, I want him to be smoother. Just a little bit, man. Just a little bit. But, like, that's when I start to get in my brain, you know, I'm an emotional person. I'm like, maybe Pete, like, struggles with this. Maybe, like, he has a hard time going on date so he can't ever, like, move on to the next level.

I'm like, maybe Pete's really lonely. Like, maybe Pete just wants, like, a nice girlfriend to, like, spoil and shit. This is where my brain goes when I watch these things. Well, I mean, he did, like, go out to lunch with her. Like, yeah, he's hooking up with her when she's blackout at work, or after work, rather. But he's not just limiting it to that. Like, he wants to go out on dates. He wants to have some fun.

So maybe he has been misunderstood this whole time, poor Pete. There, there you are. Hey. But moving right along. Then we get a quick scene with Kate and Lala at, um, powdered and sugared or something bronze and powdered sugar? I thought it was a donut shop, honestly.

Yeah, that would have made more sense to me. At least eat donuts while you're doing it, but yeah. But not much happens in this scene. They're just kind of talking. I did want to comment on the fact that Lala, it's very apparent to everybody in the group because Lala brings attention to it again.

Like the dynamic between you and Schwartz is fucking weird. Like, you guys need to figure this out. Because we find out that Raquel has set boundaries with James, where she's like, no dog. Yeah. No me?

This is my dog. No dog. Yeah. My dog. Fuck off. Yeah. So it's shocking to me that Raquel can firm... She didn't even know what boundaries were.

No, she legitimately... She said that Sandoval had to come over and say, literally. You have to lay some boundaries and she goes, what are boundaries? Literally, did not know what they were, still had the wherewithal to be like... It is funny that and talked to Raquel about that, but he didn't talk to Schwartz about that? I think. Well, he did. They talked last week where he's kind of like...

The shared custody thing with the dogs is so weird. It's... I see. just be a way that like Schwartz can still go see Katie like pretty much what James Kennedy said later where he's like yeah what do I want to do like every fucking week go over to Raquel's

be like hey I'm here to get the dog hi Raquel how are you like no fuck no I don't want to do that and like that makes sense if Dev and I got divorced I would go see Louis yeah all right that's fair but Schwartz going over to Katie he wants to go say hi Katie how are you like what's going and he wants her to ask like how's the

bar going like that's true that's the whole dynamic there and Katie's allowing it maybe she wants to also have that interaction. Maybe she just doesn't know how to set boundaries. I don't know. But you would think that, like, maybe they would have a better. I just don't know. I also think is a little murky.

I would like to point out that we are aware that Schwartz and Katie's marriage is different than James and Raquel's meeting. I mean, they did get engaged, but obviously there's more there. Yeah. But I'm just saying, like, they need to, I'm sure we'll see it shake out, obviously. like it'll get figured out accordingly because I just watched Schwartz watch what happened live like last week and he was still saying that he goes over

once a week and gets the notes. No, with that part, obviously. I'm just talking about like the overall dynamic, the Bubba. Like him pulling her aside to talk about stuff and like that kind of thing where like you need to let her go. And I'm not a Katie fan, but Schwartz, I think that

the main deterrent here of moving on is Schwartz. I don't think it's Katie. I think if Schwartz pulled back, Katie would be able to move on. And I think something has to happen, like an event, such as maybe... Raquel? To be the catalyst for all of them. Sure, sure. Like, right now, they're just kind of living and awkwardly living.

But if something bad happens, like, hey, I told you not to hook up with anybody in the friend group, you did. Caput. Yeah, so that's what we're looking forward to, I guess. So one way to put it. Plainly. Yeah, but then we had a really weird conversation with Lisa. and I was confused by her tactics here

and I you've now noticed that because we don't watch most of these shows together I think we've watched together like two or three times Shooter sits quietly and watches a show I have to comment so I'll turn and like say things and he just like ha ha which isn't very fun for me but because I pay attention and I try to make sure like you too well how do you feel how would you be like engaged to me

Colleen also likes to talk during shows and like we have to talk now we like we'll pause and I'll be like what did you say That's what Dev does to me. She'll pause the TV and go, and then if I keep doing it enough times, and I get it, I would do the same thing, but she'll pause and be like, dude, and I'm like, oh, yeah, right, right, sorry, I'm sorry.

That's what subtitles are good for, though. You can still read what's going on on the screen and here and the other multitasking. What? For me. Oh, because I still get to know what's going on on the screen and you get to talk. I don't need to hear them talk.

I was like, yeah, well, that's exactly what I do what I watch with the subtitle. That's what everybody does. does they watch and they read. No, I like to just listen when sub pedals are on. I just like the aesthetic. You like, oh, you like the TV getting blocked in certain positions? Okay, whatever.

Anyway, back to the conversation with Lisa. Why did she feel the need to be like, you had to have known? Like, why would you dig in on her about that? Like, she's clearly going through a lot. And you might, like, you may feel a certain way about Lala and I feel a certain way about Lala. But regardless, like, she is going through it right now. And yes, she clearly does understand, like, wow, I must have had a lot of blinders on to not see this shit. Why would you continue to poke?

Yeah, I feel like after the first comment was made and Lala kind of like, I don't want to say, lashed out. I feel like she gives Lisa probably way more grace than she would give anyone else. Which is fair. And I get that. That's fine. Like you wouldn't be who you are without Lisa. So whatever. But after the first comment and it didn't go well, Lisa is.

just kept going at it. It is kind of like, why, why are we doing that? She's like, what, no, no, what about the first time? Like, think way back. Like, why are we going this far back? Yeah, let's traumatize you. Yeah, let's get in there. Let's make her sob. How many suppressed memories do you have about this? Like, let's get in there. I want to figure it out. Like, no, fuck off. The producer in here, you're like, no, no, keep poking, keep poking. Maybe. A little more, little more. Maybe. I mean, but that does beg the question, like, is there a producer there before Lala shows over, or shows up to Lisa's house and says, hey, I want you to dig a little deep.

Yeah, we want you to grill her on the shit. Just grill her because you have a different relationship with Lala than anyone else in the show. And we want to know, how does she feel about this? And Lisa is just like, all right, cool, we'll do it. That's a possibility. We just debunked it. Yeah, well, maybe not. It could just be just completely ignorant to all of the signs and just being like, I want to know.

Maybe she's just so curious. She had to keep poking. It's a possibility. But this is when we get to Raquel's new apartment. and they're having like a ladies night, Arianna comes over, Sheena comes over. Sheena,

passive aggressive as fuck, I thought. Yeah. When she walks in and goes, wow, you have everything you need. That's such a subtle way to say, hmm, this is small.

I can see everything without moving. Yeah, what the fuck, dude? Like, we get it. She just broke up with James. James, I guess,

paid for most of their shit, which I, you know, hats off to him there. But she's out of her all. She doesn't know what to do with her life. Right. She can't do pageants anymore because of Donald Trump.

Yeah, what? He decided that 26. She put it so weird. I don't know. He decided that 27 is too old. It doesn't sound like something he might say, but she was like, 27 is the last year of your prime or something.

It was like along those lines. A weird phrase sounds like, what the fuck, like, why in the world? Here's the hard thing for me to figure out. Is this an actual rule? Like, can you not? That's what I was saying. Maybe beauty pageants are like government sanctioned events. There's no fucking way.

But it would be state by state because each state does it. I guess this year. see there's some government funding probably. Because they're Miss California. Yeah, they're Miss California. So I'm an idiot. And then eventually it's Miss USA. Huh. Interesting. Yeah.

If anybody knows the rules of pageants, and if there's an age out. Some fact checkers. We need some fact checkers, so let us know. And I do want to give a quick shout out to Allie, who I didn't think I would like the first episode. She stands up for Raquel as much as she can. She obviously can't overdo it because that would be weird.

But James also needs to shut the fuck up about Raquel. He does. But I did think that it was nice for her to say Raquel's very sweet. And when James was trying to shit and her like, oh, well, she's, you know, she's at the bar. She's at Sir, she's making out with Pia. Like, they're inseparable. And she's like, no, they made out when she was drunk. Like she very quickly is like, no, no, no, don't defame her.

No defamation here. She's got to be tired of him talking about her. Like, if this is how much he talks about her on camera, I can't imagine how many times he talks about her just making reference to her because he doesn't give a shit. No, he doesn't. The thing is he does not,

he has no filter, and he really doesn't care what other people think. So if he's thinking about Raquel, he's just going to blurt it out. And if you're Allie, like, good for you that now you're standing up for Raquel in some regard. But you got to also just be tired of it. And you're in a shitty situation

where you get to beat all of these people at one time at his DJ set. He can't even be there with you. Not that he's much of like a, an ally in any of her car? No, because he's just going to fucking poke the bear. Yeah, he's going to poke the bear and he's going to go do some dumb James Kennedy shit. So you don't really have somebody there to, like, hold your hand and meet all these people

and get you through it. You have to go do it on your own. So good for her being independent. Yeah, it kind of sucks that you spent the majority of the time not talking to the other friends. You talk to the ex-fiance. A little fucked up, but I guess good that her and Raquel can be on some good terms because at least you know James is going to help it. No, he's going to make it worse.

But at least they're cordial. And I have a question for you. Are James and Lala going to hook up this season? Probably. Right? Because I felt like last episode, we didn't talk about it. I was pissed we didn't talk about it. But I feel like she was planting seeds.

Like for her to bring up the fact that they hooked up while Raquel and James were dating and while she was dating Randall and like to kind of put that in his ear because you know where James Kennedy's head goes immediately. Immediately he's like, oh, I got a chance. Yeah. And she knows what she's doing. So I think that she has it out for for Allie and James. I don't think that she's excited for them.

I think that she's going to try to swoop. Tonight we saw. I don't think she wants a relationship with them, though, because if you listen to Lala talk and she talks about, oh, I met this nice guy and we've been texting all week, but I'm not going to go on a one-on-one date with him. I'm going to go group setting because I don't think I can do a one-on-one date. Like, I don't think she's ready to go dating. I think she just wants to have fun. And right now in her current, like, tumultuous state.

after Randall, I think she's looking for something familiar, aka James. Okay, that's fair. So that's easy for her. It's an easy transition. She still wants to hook up with somebody. Here's a guy that I've hooked up with before. It's been a lot of fun. Yeah, I'm not drinking anymore, but I could still see myself hooking up with him.

I don't give a shit if he's dating this new girl, whatever. He's not engaged to Raquel, so I'm not, like, ruining an engagement. I'm just ruining this fresh relationship. I don't give a shit. I could see Lala doing that. That's a pretty great assessment. I think that that's on the nose. I'm with you there.

but cool back to the party we're at the daily news party fuck the daily mail party oh my god um you put that seat in my head did i say it first you said it first a while ago so now i can't cut that part so when later you guys won't hear it but just know that it happened you will not hear the daily news part but it happened it didn't happen no fuck you but it's like you're crazy you're losing your mind but there's two things two conversations i want to like hone in on here Okay, number one. Ariana's in the bathroom with Katie and she's talking about maybe, I can't say her that straight face, maybe now that this weight has been lifted off of Sandoval's shoulders,

the bar's opening, maybe we can have some more time with each other. Maybe we can get back to like being together and quality time. You're literally talking to somebody who believes that her marriage was ruined by this bar. Yeah. And you're telling her how excited you are that you got over the hump and can now enjoy your husband again. Zero social awareness. Like, go talk to Sheena about that. Don't talk to Katie.

No. Katie's still, like, reeling from this clearly. And that leads us to our next conversation. But, like, have some feel, dude. Like, what are you doing? Talk to anybody else. Say that to literally anybody else except for Katie. Like, I felt bad for Katie.

I felt really bad for Katie there. And I don't feel. positive vibes towards Katie right now, but I felt bad for her. Yeah, and like, I feel bad for later on too, and this is the next thing I want to talk about, is her and Schwartz are discussing just the bar and, like, you know, it gets sentimental,

or it gets not really sentimental, it gets emotional, but her and Schwartz are talking about the bar and ends up getting emotional because he's like, you know, I don't want you to think that I chose this over you. And she goes on to say, we chose a lot of things over me, which, you know, there was a lot

on both sides of the table, I always thought watching these two, they'd never seemed like it was a great relationship. They seemed to make it work because they wanted to make it work, but there was always shit going on between the two of them. Neither of them were in the right. They both tended to be in the wrong multiple times, just they took turns who

was wrong, in my mind. But to see them, like, this is real, right? This is an actual divorce. They're working through some pretty heavy shit, and she's clearly grieving still, and he is trying to work through like, oh, fuck. Maybe this was what ruined us. Maybe this was the final straw.

He also didn't get to go home when his dad was sick and, like, his brothers were there. Like, I think that it's really hard to, like, take a stance, right? And I don't, I think people should shy away from, oh, I'm team Schwartz or, oh, I'm team Katie. Like, it just, it's team sucks, right? Like, it's just all fucking sucks.

And it's sad, regardless of how you feel. Like, I don't, again, not a huge Katie Maloney fan. I felt for multiple times this episode. I'm like, yeah, that's really fucking hard. Schwartz, I feel for him. He's kind of stupid sometimes. Like, you feel for him because he is also a very genuine guy. So it's like, fuck, man.

Like, both of them are slighted. We need to just give them some grace, I think, other than being like, oh, well, I'm team Katie. Like, fuck Tom. Yeah, I don't, team Tom. Fuck Katie. Yeah, I don't like aligning myself. And there are certain situations where it is possible to align yourself with one side or

the other. And you can take a firm stance. Like, we don't, there was one comment, actually, that stood out to me that somebody said that we shouldn't be dying on this hill. I don't think you and I will ever die on a hill. I'll be very quick. We change our stances a lot just based off of the information that comes out. And that's what makes us great.

Humble. Yeah, but in this situation, like, yeah, the bar strained an already kind of broken relationship. So they broke up. So let's just, you know, we can nitpick some things if it's really annoying and Schwartz is still calling her Bubba and she's still kind of like allowing things or she's being me and mind is back, whatever. Right. We can nitpick those things, but overall, just, fuck, I just say let's leave them alone. And I'm talking to the producers, just let's not harp on this the whole season. I get, like, yeah, they were together for 12 years, married for five, they're now divorced.

It's a big storyline. But it is going to get very tired, and it's going to kind of suck, like, to watch because it's depressing. It's just genuinely sad. Yeah, and hopefully they, I mean, Raquel's going to, like, that's going to be interesting to watch. I'm okay because that brings in a new storyline into, like, the main storyline, I guess. And it'll kind of, like, distract a little bit between Katie and Schwartz. And I don't think they're going to talk to each other for a while after that. So that might actually be good.

Yeah. Yeah, no, you're not wrong. These conversations are just a little tiring and a little rough. Yeah, they're emotionally taxing. Yeah. Last but not least, we are back in. Jersey, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the season. I'm really glad that Jersey's back.

I think we needed it. We definitely needed it, yeah. And it picks up, like, right where it left off, we're still quarreling between Jen and Dolores, and Dolores is kind of, like, trying to explain her side of things. Because, no, she didn't give Jen the time of day, but like we said last week, like, you can't talk shit to everybody else at the party and then assume that Dolores is going to come up to you with, like, waving a white flag. Like, you set the table there.

So Dolores is like, did I not stand by her this time? Did not stand by her that time? We get cutscenes of every single time that everybody's talking shit about Jen, everybody. And Dolores is like, no, don't say that. Stop saying that, blah, blah, blah. She's standing up for Jen multiple times. And we hear her later, and I thought it was a really, really good rebuttal

when they're like, well, you know, she felt a certain way because she took the time to come to your house. It was a charity event. Just because you guys were at odds. She still wanted to support. And Dolores is like, by me inviting her to that, that's me somewhat extending an olive branch

to where it's not my job anymore to fix this. Like we're on the same level there. She showed up for charity to be a good person for charity. I invited her still because I didn't want to be a dick too. Yeah, I think that's a good point. And it's also, it's sort of an olive branch. I don't know.

Like at the end of the day, it's for charity. So just kind of put your petty bullshit aside and go do the thing for charity. Because obviously, I would imagine that, Bill was probably talking about it. Maybe not, actually. I can't really see Bill Aiden sitting back and being in here. I can't wait for the calendar shoot.

I can't really see him sitting back and talking much, period. Yeah, I don't think he says a lot. But, yeah, you still showed up. And it wasn't, it was at Marge's house. So I guess you didn't feel the need to, all right, I'm going into enemy territory or anything like that. Like, yeah, it's Dolores's event. But it's not her house.

So you don't have to go talk to her immediately. But I agree. Like, just get the conversation. over with. And if you have beef, try to figure it out. Or don't. I don't care. But don't go talking to every single other person. And then, like you said, expect everything to just be, okay, let's go discuss this now. Yeah, let's go figure this out. It's not going to happen. You're just going to piss off Dolores. And out of all of them, like, yeah, Teresa might scream and everything, Dolores is probably the last one that I would want to piss off. When she stood up in that

pool, oh, I got scared. I got scared too. Like, she would hit me. Yeah, no, I wouldn't fuck with Dolores. No, absolutely not. So, like, it's just not a good move. And I think this is part of it. You kind of see, and this is an interesting theory, actually. You might like this one. Jennifer and Teresa's friendship is kind of blossoming a little bit, right? Yeah. Teresa's kind of taking a step back.

She's not being as crazy, not as loud. You're going to be called a Teresa Stan. Well, no, hold on. What if she's talking to Jennifer and she's getting Jennifer all right about? You got the whole Jennifer, Teresa, going to meet Marge's ex-friend, which we'll get into, kind of figuring things out. but Teresa's not really getting angry about things. No, she's not.

What if she's letting Jennifer do her work for her? But it would be interesting just to see if maybe Teresa's taken a step back and she's letting Jennifer take a little bit of center stage here just to see how that goes. She might see some of that. And we're going to tread lately. Yeah.

Just because I don't want to be accused of standing for somebody. But we do get a quick cut to like Joe and Melissa and I guess Melissa had to go present at the MTV Awards with Teresa. And there's a couple of things I want to dive into at this juncture. If you'll entertain me real quick. I'll indulge me. You'll indulge me? Thank you. So ever since, like, the off season, there's been conflicting reports coming out of both parties, right?

Both camps, the Melissa and Joe camp and the Teresa and Louis camp. The one thing I can say is that Teresa and Louis always have receipts for their shit. Yeah. Melissa and Joe don't. And that is a big red flag because they're talking about this trip out to L.A., whatever. And when they're kind of discussing it amongst themselves, Joe takes this whole, like, sob story.

Like, you know, our parents are looking down from us. Our parents are looking down us right now, and they're heartbroken, and, like, it's just sad. Like, we're probably never going to, like, reunite, blah, blah, blah. When they get back from this trip, Melissa tells Joe, like, oh, it's fine, whatever, like, kind of blasé about it. We were on stage. It was just whatever.

Teresa tells everybody at the party later, like, oh, we had a really nice time out in L.A. Yeah. I'm like, oh, well, those are two very different things because of how, like, shitty their relationship is. Like, both of those carry a much different meaning. Now, the whole thing about the seating chart comes out later. We literally just saw, before we started recording, an actual picture of the seating chart. not only does it have Joey and Melissa across the table from those two. There are multiple pictures from that night of Joe with Teresa's daughters.

You like that? Of Melissa and Teresa, like, oh, Joe and Louis? Like, everyone's intermingling. So this is just further pushing me away from Joe and Melissa. And I know all those people are like, oh, they put up with this shit for 15 years. They're supposed to just cave now? No, they're not supposed to. just fucking cave now, but don't keep throwing out allegations and shit if there's stuff

to back up Teresa and Louis. Yeah, it just furthers the idea that they're just playing this up hard for the show. And that's what people tend to talk about. And again, like, we're not standing up for Teresa. We've watched the show. We know how terrible she's been to Joe, to Melissa over the years, how many issues they've had, how many times they've gotten into fights or their spouses have gotten into fights or whatever. All we're saying is, Teresa is making Teresa is saying things that seem a little more plausible

and when you have backed up receipts and you have pictures that show otherwise it's kind of tough and you touched on it with Melissa coming back from the MTV Awards her and Joe had a discussion where Melissa said it was just really awkward

it just didn't feel right blah blah blah blah blah and like you said Teresa was like oh yeah it was great like yeah we were cordial it was fine like there really weren't any issues she said we had a really nice time together I believe that. That's the problem.

And, like, I don't know why the fuck I believe Teresa over anyone else. But when she keeps bringing up receipts and text messages and whatever, and it shows that Teresa is right, I'm going to start to believe that she's right in a lot more situations. And I do believe that Melissa and Joe are playing it up for the cameras. And I do think that, look, I don't know where they are as a family, but that's got to fucking suck, right? Especially for, like, Teresa and Louie, Louis comes into this family, and he just wants to try to make things right with everybody. and you've got Joe and Melissa over there playing shit up

for the cameras that they don't really mean and then when the cameras turn off they're being all lovy-dovey. Like, no, that's not going to fucking fly and it's going to really just muddy the water moving forward and that's going to suck for everybody.

And here's my big takeaway and you look at a lot of people are saying like, oh, Louis's controlling. Oh, Louis's this. Oh, Louie's that. Oh, Teresa's this. You didn't see what she used to do. Like, Louis has a pass.

Louis has this. But all that stuff, okay, we watched this from a current perspective. We understand that things happen in the past, right? Everybody these days wants to post on their social media and shit about growth, about change, about becoming better, about being a better person, right? We could be potentially watching that in real time. I don't know. I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm not saying that this is all 100% truthful. I'm saying, are we at a point now where we're watching a husband potentially try to help his wife be a better

person, Teresa trying to actively be a better person where she's saying to her friends, I'm seeing a therapist. She doesn't escalate situations when shit's popping off. We're now at a point where we're like, oh, it's all horses shit. Like, we can preach and promote this shit on Instagram all fucking day and post some stupid fucking meme about it. But when we actually see it in play, we're going to question all of it and just say absolutely not. We're not going to say, oh, let's give this time and see this shit play out. Let's see if this actually turns into something. We're going to just quickly be like, fuck you, fuck that. We know who she is. We know who Louie is. fuck them. That's bullshit.

Yeah, and I think that drives me nuts. That kind of goes with the territory of, we talk about this all the time, like, you view these people on TV as characters essentially. Look, Joe and Melissa might be characters. Maybe they are doing all this shit for the cameras and they're doing something completely different behind the cameras. Who knows? But to sit there and like you said and actually watch Teresa apologize and hold

and hold her tongue during certain situations and talk about therapy and watch her and watch what happens live where Andy's trying to get her to talk some shit and she's not and you can see like Louis's kind of like losing his shit because he's a little nervous to be on like it's actually kind of nice to watch I don't know I don't know what the fuck

happened I have no idea but it's actually kind of nice to watch Teresa on TV and be nice and not be a huge because look last year our complaints were every single time that somebody had something to say Teresa would blow the fuck up and we're like this is getting tiring

I mean, it's enough. But if she's really going to turn another leaf and she's going to actually be nice and good situations, and then if somebody completely disrespects her or her family, then she blows up, that's more enjoyable to watch because it doesn't happen every fucking episode. And when she does, and I'm sure she will explode at some point in this season, because it's inevitable, let's be honest, it'll be much more enjoyable to watch because we were waiting for it. And it's actually the right time for her to do that. Like, that's what we want.

That's why we watch these fucking shows. So I don't know. Everybody else who's going to sit there and be like, oh, you're on Team Teresa, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, shut up. We get a quick peek into Jen and Danielle comes over to her house. Danielle is going to be a fucking star. Yeah, I think she has a lot of potential.

She could be great. You know, she reminds me of two people if you mixed them up. Okay, mixing them up. Carmella from the Spronels. And Margot Robbie from Wolf of Wall Street. You take them and put them into one person and you get Daniel, the Duchess. I'm going to call Danielle the Duchess from now on. I can see that.

It's just she gives like that vibe. Like she's very Jersey in a good way. Like she's really funny and like she brings a good energy where it's light. It's like she's enjoyable to watch. She makes me like smile when she says some shit. I'm like, oh, that's pretty funny. Like I like her, I like her family, like their interactions together. Like the kid, he's like, oh, because when I'm older,

can be British, which, you know, sure, shoot your shot. Yeah, you can be an actor. Dream big dreams. And he's like, she's like, oh, you can be British. I'm here. She's like, he's like, he's like, mother. And she's like, oh, that's nice. Fuck her.

I was like, hey. People are probably pissed at a kid who was saying fuck, but whatever. I mean, it is funny. And like I said, like she has potential. I think Rachel also has potential. I do too. I don't really know about Jennifer. And we'll get there.

I love Jennifer Fessler. We'll get there. I've got a bone, really big issue there. But I love that Danielle, one, she wants to host a party. Two, she's just super real. She seems very authentic. She walks into Jennifer's house and she's like, holy shit. I didn't realize I was at like the, what did she say?

The Caesar's Palace of Ramis. And then when she's talking about her house, she's like, Jennifer's house could eat my house for lunch. Like, I am nervous to have these women over. And I'm like, I get that. Like, that's pretty fucking real. and I like that. And the biggest play of all time was not inviting Jackie to the Bacorella party. 100%. Absolutely don't. And she is so right on Jackie. She was looking her up

and down. And she had that. She was looking for every newbie when she walked in. Like, I'm now a friend of. Like, I'm going to get demoted. Let me see who's replacing me. I've got this girl here, this girl here. Like Daniel's absolutely right. That's exactly what Jackie was doing. And you don't want bad vibes at your house. No friends of at my house, all that Jen Fessler is, but she's a new one. So let her go. And she eats mozzarella like a fucking weirdo. But, yeah, have everybody else. Don't invite Jackie over because it gives the wrong image

and you don't want to share screen time with her. Let her just kind of go away and be a friend of. And we're going to see her later. But I like Danielle a lot. I do too. And as she's at Jen's house, they FaceTime Teresa. And I guess that at some point, Laura is her name, reached out to Jen and Teresa and said,

hey, I've got some dirt on Marge that you guys need to hear. And Danny's like, oh, did you hear it? And both of them fell, or no, she says, is it about Marge or is there somebody else involved? And they both go silent. Like, awkwardly, to the point where I got awkward because Danny's like, um, uh, it was a bit of a long. It was long pause.

It was a long pause to, I actually had to rewind it two times. I thought I missed something. I was like, oh, no, they're just, maybe. I don't know, but they, they get this dirt on March. And this made me change perspectives a little bit about the initial conversation between Teresa and March. Because initially I was like, why the fuck would Marge go immediately to Melissa

afterwards, right? Like that's shady. For Teresa to do this is also shady. Yeah. So, neither of them are correct. Shocking. Like, they're both, I don't even think that they don't want to trust each other. This is where it led me.

I don't think it's that they don't want to work things out. I think they're both so scorned over the years. They're like, oh, this is bullshit. I need to protect myself. so I need to get some ammo on the back end so I can make sure I cover myself. They play this game long enough. They know how to play it.

I think that they both, in their heart of hearts, like, want to work this out. I just think that they can't get out of their own fucking way because they're just like assuming somebody's going to backstab the other one. It's a possibility, and they are perpetually correct about that, too. They are. And, yeah, I don't know. It's going to play out, obviously.

The funny thing will be that if, say, Jennifer, I mean, we kind of see Jennifer and Marge's buttheads a little bit, But when that happens, like, is Jennifer going to feel okay bringing that information to light without Teresa's okay? Because I do still feel like she's going to talk to Teresa and be like, can I bring this out? Or like, are you going to feel? Because everybody knows that, well, now everybody knows that Marge's friend Lara talked to both Teresa and Jennifer. So now Marge, yeah, like you said, like she's squirming because there's some shit out there for sure. But it's years and years old.

So like, you know, how's everybody going to take it? Who knows? I just can't really see Jennifer doing something without Teresa's okay. Here's the thing. She wouldn't intentionally. She could 100% get so emotional that she slips. That's kind of what I'm thinking. Yeah, that makes sense.

She could 100% get so pissed off that she slips. Yeah, that makes sense. I could see that happening. I think that's probably what I was thinking. Yeah, and I'm sure that we will see this come to light during the season. I say that now, and then we're going to get a Heather's black eye, situation once again. I won't see that.

This week we get. And that takes us to the mozzarella party. We did get a quick little interaction with Paul and Dolores along the way, which I'm a big fan of Paul. Yeah, I like Paul a lot. Seems like a real man's man.

He seems open to the idea of having a good relationship with Frank. He's just like, look, this is how it is now, which he's 100% correct. Like, yeah, that you and Dolores are together. You should set boundaries. Frank should respect those boundaries. Period.

Like, that's fine. I agree with that. Makes a lot of sense, yeah. Totally. As long as Dolores is happy, Frank's going to have to learn to be happy with her. That's it. Good. Yep.

Done. But to the Mutz party. And Danielle knows what she's getting into to a certain extent. Like she even says, like, I'm crazy for having all these women here, but whatever. Here we go. And if anyone says my house is cute, I'm going to be pissed. Yes. The first person to walk in the door.

Oh, that's so cute. And she just kind of like slaps her knee. And I was like, oh, that's funny. But before Jen gets there. We get all the ladies around the table, and Dolores is there. And Teresa, and this is why we keep talking about it, is the one to say to Dolores, do you think there's a way through this? Like, do you think you guys can, like, talk it out, figure it out, at least come to terms? I'm like, who the fuck are you?

And then she uses an example. He's like, I've been talking to my therapist. And you can see the look on every woman's face there. They're as shocked as we are. So why the fuck are we catching shit for it? Everyone's surprised by this. Yeah. You got to think that they're way more cautious than that.

optimistic. Oh, for sure. For sure. And we can be cautiously optimistic because we want the show to be good because we enjoy watching the show. They're definitely way more just cautious. Like, let's see where this goes. I don't really know how to feel about this, Teresa, talking about therapy in a positive way

and helping others resolve their differences instead of just picking teams and then piling shit on. Exactly. And Dolores is having none of it. Yeah. She calls her a see-you-next Tuesday. is completely over the Jen situation and just wants to, like, move past it. I think she's cool with not being cool. But when Jen gets there, that's when Danielle brings up the Jackie thing

and how Jackie's kind of an asshole, which she was being an asshole. She up and down to you when he walked into the party, and that's why she's not there. But everyone, except for Jen, Aidan, is wildly turned on by Giacomo making mozzarella. Yeah. Like, it was a full sexual experience to the point where, like, women were biting their lips. Like, like, oh, my God, like, Giacomo and that cheese, man. Like, I never thought that that would be so hot. Were you turned on?

No. Not at all? No. I mean, the mozzarella turned me on, the actual mozzarella itself. Yeah, I mean, I got a little hot involved. Yeah, I was like, I want to watch this scene very intently because I love mozzarella. So, yeah, I was definitely into that. I'm not going to call it mozzarella.

No, there's only... I feel like I'm not Italian side. There's certain people that can get away with saying that. Like, Dev's mom, my mother-in-law, Susie Q, she can say it. And she says it well. She says, Mutz or Mutsuil, and that works. I cannot. I can't do that.

You definitely can't. Definitely. Way too fucking Irish for that shit. No, I liked the Mazzarella up until Jen Fessler just fucking attacked it with her mouth. That's where we're getting to. I just can't stop thinking about it. I know. I politely put it out on Twitter.

None of you sickos better repost that video because I don't want to see it again. We had like six people put the clip up there. What did you think was going to happen? A bunch of fucking asshole. What did you think was going to happen? Our listeners are a bunch of assholes. If I had my own Twitter account, I would have posted it on there just to piss you off. I just don't get it.

She was clearly. Was she trying to be funny? Yeah. That's no. To multiple people asked on that Twitter. She said, like a Velociraptor attacking a piece of meat. Like, does she eat all food like that? No.

We watched her eat a sandwich. No. We watched her eat a sandwich. She didn't eat it like that. She was clearly reacting. I'm going to think about it. She was chomping about it. She was actually now that I think about it.

She did make a little way. There you go. But she clearly was reacting to an uncomfortable situation because Marge and Jen are fucking getting into it. And with the biggest pet peeve I have, weaponizing therapy? Yes. Don't do that. First off, she's like, you have marijuana paranoia.

Oh, God. What the fuck? Okay, boomer. Like, what the hell is that? No. I actually forgot how much I disliked Mark. I know until she started like in the off season we were talking about her. I'm like, oh, this could be a lot of fun.

Like Marge Jr. Marge Jr. She's out. I think we just had, it was so playful calling her Marge Jr. That we had a lot of fun with it that I thought that I liked her. And now we're watching her and I'm like, fuck. No, but I don't like anything she does. I don't either.

And they're yelling at each other and Marge does the thing. She's like, you need deep therapy. Like, you are in no place to tell anybody to go to therapy. One, two, don't tell anybody to go to therapy because it's, fuck. up. You're pretty much saying she doesn't have a mental capacity to operate in the world, that her way of thinking is incorrect. What runs her whole body is wrong, is what you're telling her. Pretty much. Look, is she a little off the rails? Yeah. Do you have the right to say that to her? Fuck, no. Shut up, Margaret. And then she goes into the pool. Now she's gaslighting. Like, oh, my God,

I just tried to talk to her. I just tried to talk to her. No, you didn't. You talked over her. I love when people do that, too, and they talk loud enough so that the other person clearly hear them. And, like, we just got done arguing, and now you're going to go talk shit over there. It's one thing to be like, she just said this, I said this back, and just recite the facts because the other people may have not heard it, even though you're yelling, in,

sorry, Danielle, in a cute backyard. Oh. To be out there and not, my backyard's not any bigger. I'm just making a joke out there. Sorry, Danielle, if you're listening. But to sit there and then spew more nonsense, as if Jennifer's not going to fucking hear it.

Well, she wants her to hear, but that's stupid. She's gaslighting. And, like, I thought that Jen had a really funny comment. She goes, who needs a Karen when you have a Margaret? I thought that was curious. That was great. But this is when Dolores gets brought into the picture. And, again, Dolores, not the one to fuck with.

And if you're going to go after her, definitely don't say Dolores who. Yeah. That was, when she said that, I ought to be went, ooh. Yeah. You can't. It's not going to go well. No. When you say that to somebody, you are.

trying them. So Dolores turns out of the pool real quick. I ducked because I was like and she comes over and actually cools down. I thought she's going to come in a lot harder than as I thought. Yeah. Dude, Jen Fessler coming in like, guys, guys, guys, can't we all just Dolores turns around? Not the people or the place, honey. Like this is not going to go over here. This is not us. You need to go back in your corner and eat your mozzarella. That was a, that was funny as shit. I was like, yeah, you will not get that nice approach is not getting through to these ladies. It will not happen. They will figure this out on their own time. Go eat your moots. Mm-hmm.

But that takes us to the question portion up first from Oscar Salazar, fellow brof bro. Thoughts on Teresa leaving, gets her own spinoff, and then Caroline comes back. Hmm. It would depend on what the spin-off is. Yeah, there's a lot of... You got to leave Jersey. in good hands, which looks like they're kind of starting to do. They're taking the initiative and putting, you know, younger new blood, housewives in there.

So I'm a fan of that as long as jerseys in good hands. If jerseys in good hands, Theresa could have a spin-off. Yeah, sure. But you got to leave the flagship maintained. Can't lose Jersey. Not now. We already lost Roney. Can't lose Jersey, too.

From Erica Hallie Jerome. Do you think if Melissa and Joe were finally off the show, we could see Teresa thrive? I think Teresa's been thriving. I think she's doing fine. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I mean, new Teresa we're talking about.

If that's what we're talking about, then yeah, probably. From Jamie Lynn with like six ends. Do we love or hate Raquel? Your thoughts on Raquel. Do we have to pick one or the other? No. Gray area in the middle somewhere. I like her.

leaning towards like i think we're about to see like potentially a dark season out of her i think she might go through some shit this year trying to find herself yeah so we might we might see you know a much different rakel than we're used to but i like her yeah i like her right now from zoe coo the play thoughts on james drinking again i'll take that one um first off great job pronouncing that name she's asked questions before okay so you didn't have to tell me that i know but i'm an honest person um look anybody that chooses sobriety for the reasons that he did that he wasn't liking how he acted when he was drunk i think that it's a very dangerous game to play i don't really support it i think that if you're going to make that major change in your life because of the person you were

when you were drinking it's never going to be a great idea a lot of people are sober for a long time then they dip a toe back in and they're good for an extended period of time it's not like it just the first drink they have they fall off the wagon and they're just like unhinged but at some point it tends to rear up again and things get unmanageable and next thing you know you have a massive drinking problem again so no i don't i don't like it i don't think it's a good idea but i'm also not here to tell them what to do it's his life and it's his decision to make sobriety is up to the individual so i'm not here to point fingers either way Last question

From NDRWSP Should Teresa flip a car Like the Rogue Philly fans I've seen Teresa get mad enough before Where it looks like she's got Hulk strength And she might be able to flip a car So if she can do it I'd like to watch that

Yeah I'd like to see it too Not all Philly fans flip cars by the way No But you know You keep talking We'll come flip your car There were college students Probably from whatever town you're from buddy

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