Bros & Shows - Ain't No Party Like a Space Party (Summer House Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

What's up Bros? We are back with Summer House and in this weeks episode, the vibes in the house overall are pretty solid. Everyones seemingly getting along for the past couple of weekends. Kyle and Amanda are in a good place post therapy, Carl and Lindsay haven't fought, things are going well. West and Ciara are still figuring things out but with this new modeling contract it sounds like both sides are a little unsure of what their future may look like. Carl and Danielle are in a good place as well but we see Danielle overstep with Paige during a night out in regards to her relationship with Craig. Paige claps back in a confessional and asks that Lindsay "takes her friend back because we've made a mistake". Carl and Lindsay discuss their future and Carl's offer to rejoin Loverboy, and while we don't agree with Lindsay often, we both felt that in this scene she was correct in her sentiment. She's ready for Carl to pursue a tangible career even if that means going back to Loverboy but Carl gets a little hot/ cold with her about it even though he seemed excited at the premise with other people... Is this the beginning of the end?? We all know it's coming so its only a matter of time... All in all, this season is hitting on all cylinders and having some fun nights with the crew going out is always enjoyable. Time Stamps: Intro (0-6:00) Summer House (6:00) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros.

For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell. joined as always by the one and only Joel M. Scoots. Okay. All right. There we go. The Sixers tonight. That's the best thing I do. Joel M. Guter? No.

M. B. I try to get that. It's after Joel M. Bed. Yep. For those that don't know. Sure is. There you go. Yeah. I mean, it's the best time of year, right? Playoff sports, heating up. Bravo. Heating up. We got a little summer house to talk about today. and look, I need to get myself back in the playoff shape.

I am not there. No? I'm still hung over from Saturday. I can see it in your eyeballs. Uh-huh. And my eyeballs? Yeah, I can see it in your eyeballs right now. I don't know.

Are you putting more emphasis on eye or balls? I'm not looking at your balls. I'm looking at your eyes. I can feel it on my balls. That's fine. My eyeballs. Oh, welcome to the brabros. Yeah, so I'm not hungover.

And it actually reminded me. It was pretty funny today when I was watching. I wrote this. down and now that you just pulled this out already did you watch the right summer house i did okay i did job i watched the right one um we're going to do martha's vineyard later this week don't you worry if you are not watching that yet and you're listening to this i don't know why you're not it's such a good show and it's a great season so far so like do yourselves a favor start watching martha's vineyard please but what i was going to say is because page was really hung over in summer house day

and I was going to make the joke like have you seen the there's like a TikTok or a skit where the guy like that's a bachelor party and all the dudes are like about to crack a beer like the next day and the one guy's like yeah man I'm just like really hung over and that guy comes out of the door like way down the hallways like what's that yeah I'm not hungover because I don't drink yeah that's you yeah and then the guy's like yeah no we know he's like yeah don't miss that feeling like it's you popping out down the hallway while I'm just hung over on the couch it's just like it's a it's a it's a it's a rope for sober people where they get to say that all the time and I've stopped saying it honestly because I went to avoid that where it's like every time people are like oh I'm so hung over it's like don't miss that it's like yeah we know we get it thanks bud but I don't miss that so

no anyway I built a garden today I feel very accomplished built my garden and what else did I do this weekend I've done a lot of shit since we got back from Italy catching up yeah but like I wanted a chance to like ease into it nope my life will not permit that I do too many things, and I just got thrown back into the ringer.

I'm exhausted. I've been back from vacation for five days. It feels like I've been back. I guess it's like a week now. I feel like I've been back for two months. Yeah. I know you're waiting for the live show, which, by the way, live show, 5'3, make sure you get your tickets down in D.C., union stage. Tickets in the bio.

We'll plug in. I know you're waiting for that live show. What a plug. But you need a haircut. I know. I'm looking at it. It's wolfing out, brother. I know.

Well, I'm going to get the sides cleaned up, but I don't think I'm going to get the back. I do need to get the ears cleaned up. A little mollity? Not mollity? Because the front is long as shit. Yeah, it is. So I can do like the slick back maybe. I don't know.

I'm not sure. Slick back or pushback? That's a really good way. Did you use to be a piece of shit or? I'm going pushback because slick back implies that I'm an asshole. Yeah. So push back. Good call.

Yep. But I do need to get the sides cleaned up because my sideburns get wild. That's what I was looking at, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I appreciate you. I know what you're waiting for. Yeah. You want a fresh cut. That's it.

Just to clean up here, but I don't know what to do back here. Well, look, for everybody out there that thinks that it's easy being a guy, it's not. This is what we deal with. When you have to get a haircut, you ought to make sure you get a haircut like a week before whatever event you're doing, because it does need to grow in a little bit more to look a little better. Yes, I know. That fresh cut look just doesn't look great, especially in the summer you get tan lines. Oh, we're off and running, baby.

No, but all things considered, it's been a solid week it's been a solid week of Bravo it's nice to kind of get back into the swing of things a little bit with our main shows Vanderpump Villa is a blast but I like getting back

to like our bread and butter a little bit somebody pointed out and it is weird like we haven't done a housewife show in a long time none of them are airing right now I know that's a good point I know that like

and obviously we're going to do this before the live show but I know the Potomac did heat up during the reunion a bit yeah so we don't regret dropping Potomac because it sucked the whole season but you know the reunions of the reunion and obviously you got a little bit of closure for some people who aren't going to be there anymore i.e. Robin and Candice. So we'll get into that. I don't think we're ever going to really

review that. We're going to talk about it in the live show really. Yeah. But I guess the next housewife show that we have coming up is just Jersey. Jersey's coming up and then oh see at some point. Oh yeah, Dubai. Byes on the horizon. I'm looking no. Hold on. Cautiously optimistic. No, no, no, no. Not even no nowhere optimistic i'm curious that's all i'm curious how they've had so long since season one they i don't know i mean some people like love to clap back at us and say i don't know why you hated dubai dubai was garbage it was hot garbage who's saying that in the comments somebody said it and i was like that's so interesting because i didn't know that people enjoyed dubai and i'm curious with the time that they've been given have they figured some things out did they watch the tape

that they watched some game film and come back with a different mindset in season two because a few of them were in interviews and stuff saying now that we got on our feet wet, like I kind of know how to navigate a little bit better. It's going to be a different season. And they were also catching heat from other Housewife franchises that they weren't pulling their weight. So I'm curious if the pressure has made them rise to the occasion. Are we going to get a different kind of show or is it going to be kind of the same bullshit where they're leaning on the fact that they live in Dubai the whole time?

I know I want to blame a lot of that just on production and leaning into the whole Dubai thing because let's be honest, that just didn't work after the first two episodes. It was literally episode too. I was like, oh, pretty, and there's like nothing. And all the other issues that we had leading into the show that we had a lot of questions about specifically,

you know, what kind of behavior can you actually get away with in Dubai? Apparently not much. So I don't know. I'm not even optimistic at all. I'm actually a little scared that because they were getting so much heat from the other franchises, They're going to try to lean into it more and produce more inorganic drama, which never fucking works. So, I don't know.

You know what? I'll worry about that when that show drops. Yeah, but like I said, I'm curious. That's all. Curious. Just a little curious. I'm Dubai curious to see how they do second year, sophomore season, because to me it's make a break. Like, if it sucks, you got a can it.

Yep. But regardless, what it was. We're here to talk about Summer House. Yes. Thank you. We're here to talk about Summer House, and I love this season. I think that it's bringing a lot of the former summer house to light, where it's like, yeah, this is why we watch the show for the partying, for everybody getting along.

We want drama, for sure. Right. And we're getting some drama. We're getting drama throughout the house, which is nice. But none of it ever since Carl and Lindsay have kind of settled down a little bit, you're not getting like the dark stuff, the heavy shit. We've had a little bit of a reprieve from it, which I've really enjoyed because in that time. We know where it's going. We do know where it's going.

So, like, we're kind of gearing up for the downfall at this point. But since we know that's on the horizon, it's almost better that we're getting some party scenes, some lighter scenes. Everyone's getting along. We get to focus on kind of more trivial stuff, like who's going to swoop in on Joe the balloon guy instead of, are they going to get married or are they, like, heavy shit? Yeah. So I would rather talk about Joe the balloon guy for a couple of weeks and then get back into the heavy show. A couple of weeks with Joe Balloon Guy. We're going to have two weeks of Joe the Balloon Guy.

We had one tonight, and we're going to have another one next week. That's two Joe Balloon guys. Might be two, too, too many. Should we call my Joey Loons or something? Joey Loons. Yeah, I like that. I like that. But let's get into this.

I'm just, like, rambling now. Let me get my Italian-made leather notebook out. No big deal. You just ditch the leather immediately. So when I write in it, I leave it on, but it's easier to navigate without it. Yep. But it's just a cover. It's a, and it smells good.

I really hope that sniff got through the mic. Oh, you don't have to double down it. I think it caught it the first time. Well, now I can, like, edit it in if I have to. It's all about the effects, all right? Quality sound work. Can't figure out how to use the soundboard, but can edit in a good sniff. Yeah, I'm a Foley artist.

But let's get into Summer House this week. We start out, and everyone's driving there. We see West and Sierra, they're still vibing. But this is interesting. And we talked about it a little bit before how the market. modeling contract was going to affect their relationship, and they bring it up, which is interesting. Because West is like, you know, we get a confessioner like, yeah, just sign the two years, and it's going to be international.

Their Sierra says that. And West is like, you know, I heard from Complex, and hopefully that works out. We do know that that did work out. But the fact that he's aware of that, and that was kind of our prediction. I wonder if that threw a wrench into things as to where they stand now. Yeah, I think it did. And we see this a couple times, whether it's the two of them talking and the drive up. West talking to Sierra's manager a little bit later.

He's got it in the back of his mind already. So when it popped up last week that we knew Sierra was signing this contract for two years and it was going to be international. She's going to be traveling and this and that. Immediately it just clicked just based off of how West was talking to us when we interviewed him a couple of weeks ago. So everything's falling into line. And again, West is, he's a really good dude. I know that this is a fucking weird thing. People are trying to find skeletons in his closet.

He's too good of a person. They're digging? People are digging. And they're not finding anything. And that's what it really comes down to. It's like maybe he's not as good a person as we think. Until you find something that says he's not a good person, shut the fuck up. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Well, they're trying to prove him guilty. Why? That's the thing. He's not on trial. He's on trial for being too good of a person. It's nice to have a nice person on the show. Look, do I think that maybe he could have like some fuck boy tendencies, like in there somewhere? You get that with Jesse.

Like the two of them came on the show. West is a really sweet, nice guy. We are shipping him in Sierra. That's a thing. Shipping? Shipping, yeah. What is that? You don't know what that means?

No. It's like when you're supporting a relationship. You ship them. Yeah, you ship them. That doesn't sound positive. Yeah. If I ship something, it sounds like I'm sending it off. I don't like it.

Shipping it off to Promise Land. That's a, I don't see it that way. All right, well, I'm just telling you how it works. I don't stand for that one. How about that? Anyway, but you get that with West. And then Jesse's the other side of that coin without being a dick. Yeah.

he's he's an admitted fuck boy from New York just bops around he's a finance bro he's everything that you expect but he's still not an asshole yeah because he's up front about it he's up front about everything and he's he's a lovable asshole if you will so that's perfect so we get a little bit of two of them getting up there just leave west out of it yeah i i firmly agree we like west i think everybody likes west i think that's the problem you can't be too well liked around here but we get gabby coming back and she is fresh off a trip to Texas where her parents just moved and I guess her sister has a boyfriend now

which has ramped up the pressure on her finding a boyfriend. So she's coming into this weekend. I'm not going to say with goals, but she's definitely feeling the pressure of trying to find a dude. And I don't know if that's the dad. I don't know. I don't know if that's Lindsay pushing it. It's Lindsay pushing it, but also

trying to find a boyfriend if you're Gabby and we know based off of her first season she kind of broke down what her standards are. She seems to have, hold on. She's definitely like alleviated her standards one and two, and I wrote it down... That doesn't mean that you go for the balloon guy, though. No, not...

That could just be a fun summer thing. Don't disparage balloon guy, Joe. We don't know. Joey loons. We don't know what he does, okay? It works with balloons. What do you mean? Maybe it's a very lucrative business.

I am not one to put somebody's profession down because I do not know the ins and outs of the balloon game. What's his job? Balloons. I feel like you're being condescending. I think you should leave. Skit. Oh.

Yeah. Tables. My bad. My bad, I missed it. But I wrote it down later when she gets back to the house. And Jesus, you attack you the microphone? I don't know what happens. You need to go to sleep.

No, I'm fine. Sixers tonight. Everybody relaxed. Yeah, everyone calmed out. But I wrote it down when she flips over the couch and, like, slams into the coffee table. Yeah. Gabby's hit her stride. I think she came into the house.

And for certain personalities, I think coming to this house is probably very intimidating. It's a lot of big personalities. You've seen them on TV. You've got to fit in. You've got to also meet them or match their energy. I think she had a hard time with that last year. I think you're finally seeing a comfortable Gabby. I'm really enjoying her when she's on the show.

I know she hasn't been there like every weekend. Yeah, I think the big thing is that she's liked by everyone. Yeah. You don't have anybody in the house that's actively disliking her or the girls being catty towards her. She can kind of mix around with really anybody in the house, which is more than you can say about a lot of them. Yeah, it's a good thing. Mostly the veterans, the people who have been there for years.

Yeah, we're seeing a little bit more of people like Paige and Lindsay coexisting, but to the extent that Gabby's doing it where she's able to go around and have meaningful conversations with everybody, that's what you need for a housemate. Yeah, no, I've been enjoying her this season a lot, but we get to the house and Danielle and Lindsay are getting ready to go out, and they are back on good terms, at least for the most part. It seems like they're, I don't know if it's the same relationship they had before, but they are friends again. And, you know, the last couple of weeks, weeksends, the last couple of weeksends for Carl and Lindsay have been solid. They haven't really fought in front of people, even their camera in their bedroom, like, they're getting a long one-on-one. Yeah. But I thought it was interesting. And this isn't even from a, like, Team Carl or Team Lindsay standpoint.

This is neutral, just looking at their relationship as a whole. She's like, yeah, I finally got some space. And, like, we're doing really well. It's like, ah, you don't see the problem with that? Like, you guys have gotten space. from each other and things are going better. Yeah, I don't know. When it comes to what Lindsay's talking about when it comes to the relationship, I take

everything with a grain of salt. She says bad things that are going on in the relationship and has this like carefree attitude towards it. Yeah, that's true. I don't really know what the hell's going on there, but everything they're doing now. And look, we're thankful for the fact that it's not deep, it's not dark, it's not scary shit that they're talking about anymore. It still seems so bizarre.

And I know that this happens a little bit later, but when he walks in, and we already know that they're not having sex. When he walks in and he goes, wow, your butt looks great, babe, I want to have sex with it. What, what the fuck is that? What is that? What are you doing, Carl? I miss that. What do you mean you miss that?

I don't know if I was writing something down. Oh, Jesus, dude. No, it's right before they're getting ready for the alien party. Lindsay's getting ready. She's in the bathroom. He walks in and he goes, wow, babe, your butt looks great. I want to have sex with it. And she goes, oh, babes.

Like, no, no, no, no. I'm so glad I didn't hear that. He's overcorrecting, obviously. I think he realizes now. or maybe somebody had said something to him about them not having sex. So he's like, oh, I got to ramp it up a little bit and act like I'm doing this. I don't know what the fuck's going on. That just implies that.

They're not having sex. That implies, yeah, that implies he's never had sex. How's that work, Carl? That's fucking funny. But Daniel's not really in a dating place. She said she's just geared in on the business. She's hustling. And she's starting to take shots of people.

And we see it more later with Paige. but she says, you know, and it's a valid point, granted, but she's like, couples in this house aren't making me, like, want to rush into a relationship, which is very valid. Well, I guess, like, Sierra, and West, if you're going to call them a couple, that would make me want to rush into a relationship, because that looks really sweet and nice.

But she's looking at the serious relationships in the house, which are both not doing very well. So I just thought it was interesting that they're rekindling this friendship, and she's like, I'm just going to take a quick dig right here and then move on. Lindsay takes it in stride, actually, I thought it could have gotten a lot worse. But the next scene is a TikTok game that I want to try. I love this game.

I want to try it. Yeah. It could take us a while. We're going to try it four times. Okay. And you just name a word, right? Any word. Any word.

Yep. No hints or anything. No hints or anything. So it's three, two, one, and then we both say a word. And then what you do is you find the similarities between the two and try to meet at a middle point, which is the same word. Let's try five of them. Okay. Ready?

Three, two, one. Car. Skipoll. Okay. three two one NASCAR oh we're going opposites now okay i see i see where we're going yeah three two one joel mb left turn uh left turn yeah nascar we keep going back and forth now you're going car i'm going basketball we gotta find what's the middle ground this is hard this is really difficult okay okay we got two more tries we're in between basketball and nascar we got to find

the common ground yep okay oh i'm fucking lost i think we picked two really hard ones to try to come together on three, two, one. Formula one. Closer. All right. Closer. All right. You're thinking of what I'm thinking here?

I don't know, but we're going to try it. Ready? Last one. Three, two, one. Pit stop. Red Bull. Oh, fuck. Oh, Red Bull's a good one.

Damn. I think we got the gist. Yeah, we'll try to get in next week. Yeah, this is a new segment now. New segment. New segment. Yeah, I love. New segment.

Steal a game that we saw on TikTok. Not even. I saw it on TV. But up next, we see Kyle. and Amanda and their vibe and they're doing well post therapy. That was their only therapy session that they went to, period. Yeah. Because I

saw them and watched what happens live a couple weeks ago. They never ended up going back, but they also seemed like they were in a good place and watch what happens live. So, I think that they subconsciously set the tone for the house. Like, when they're doing well, the house tends to do well. And I love

when they're doing well. They're much more enjoyable to watch when they're vibing together instead of at each other's throes. I think it's because they get everybody else involved. in their shit. Like Amanda goes and talks to Paige, she talks to the rest of the girls. Kyle goes and talks to literally anybody about what's going on. He'll talk to a guy on the street about his marital problems, which is funny, makes for good TV. And that's pretty much just where it is.

So if they can at least keep it indoors and not spread it out to everybody else, they can be okay with it. And it's kind of weird to watch Lindsay and Carl where last year they bogged everybody down with their shit. People were getting involved because they were scared of what the fuck was going on. Now it's just Kyle and Amanda. You would think after like eight years of this that the rest of the house wouldn't let them affect what's going on. But for some reason, it still always pulls them into it. I know. And maybe it is because they walk around and talk to everybody in the house about it.

I don't know. I'm curious. But we get a night out and Gabby's on the prowl. She's looking for her dude. Lindsay and West talk about Sierra. And this is where we find out more about like our theory of did the modeling contract. Derail some things or push things further down the road. and he says, you know, I could see it moving forward,

but because of this contract, like, I'm not really sure where we stand. Yeah. We're going to get through the summer and see where they go from there. We got the same answer from them when we interviewed him. It was we're working on things. So to me, it's looking more like what you think where everything's amicable. They had a great summer, but it's like, you know,

you're going to do your thing. He's starting his new job at Complex. Maybe now it's not the right time, which is a shame if that is the case because they just seem to work so well together. Yeah, and it'll all end up working. working out at some point because the truth of the matter is next summer you're going to be in the same house again. Yeah. So you're going to be back together and those emotions are going to come back up. So as long as they're still, at least in a place now and look, I mean, we're going to start

filming in what, almost less than two months now, they're probably right around two months, right around Fourth of July is when they start. So you're going to be back in the same house. And yeah, I mean, Sierra is still going to have things that she has to do. West is still going to have things that he has to do. But you're going to see each other for the most part almost every weekend. Yeah. So if it's meant to be, they'll rekindle it a little bit or maybe they're they've kept it at some sort of long-distance thing or, you know, see each other whenever we can. We hope that they end up together because they're sweet. Yeah, I agree.

But we get a scene with Kyle Page and Danielle, they're inside of the bar. Well, I want to ask your opinion on something before we jump into that. Danielle's running around the bar. Yeah. Talking to dudes, saying, are you single because I've got a single friend over here? What do you think about that? I think that she, that's her move. Yeah, I don't like it.

I think that she does that because then the guy's like, who's your friend? but wait, who are you? Yeah. Yeah, that's a move. Yeah, that's definitely our move. I don't think I have an issue with it. I think that... I think it's awkward.

But look, a lot of the game that we see on these shows are awkward. You know? It is what it is. I think it's, maybe it's just from my perspective. Like, I wouldn't go around to other groups of girls and be like, hey, are you single? My friend's single. Like, no, I don't think it's a terrible line, honestly. Because then, one, you find out who is single.

Two, you see if they're interested in the friend. and then you play the devil's advocate, like the matchmaker, and be like, oh, no, I'm not interested. You can play coy a little bit. And maybe that works out in favor. Maybe it's just because Danielle was doing it. That's why I had a problem with it. Perhaps.

Perhaps. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't think that was the worst move in the world. But, hey, Michael. Hey, Tom. Well, big news to share it, right? Yes, huge, monumental, earth shaking. Heartbeat, sound effect, big.

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or I guess Kyle brings up Craig and Kyle. Yeah. And, you know, this is the first time that he's heard some uncertainty in Craig's voice, and he's curious, like, maybe could you make Craig a little bit more comfortable with this whole thing? But we've heard this same conversation. since Southern Charm.

Like, this is not a new, there's nothing new again. There's nothing new again except for that one conversation that Craig and Kyle had a couple of weeks back. Yeah, but he's said the ship before. Yeah, he's definitely said it before, but for one reason or another, Kyle leaned into it a little bit more this time. Yeah. So I think it's just because Craig didn't immediately deny wanting to potentially move

on from page if it's not the right fit. Yeah. So I think that's what he's kind of focused on. And again, look, it's a TV show. so he wants to talk to Paige about this because we don't get a whole lot of conversations with just the two of them. Now, obviously Danielle budding in towards the end.

That's a different problem. But Kyle and Paige talking, I'm okay with that because that's still like best friend adjacent, so, you know, whatever. And he just wants to get something out of her. And again, we still have to do the same song and dance when it comes to Craig and Paige. So here we are.

And Danielle jumping in is the wrong move. Absolutely. Because, and look, we have a job to do. We analyze these things. I would say the page hit the nail on the head. She did. She saw what her role was last year with Lindsay and Carl. It didn't end up well.

So now she's keeping her distance from them, getting closer to Paige and Amanda and whoever else because of all that shit that happened last year. And now she's interjecting herself into Craig and Paige. Look, I get it from the TV perspective, but you're not friends with Paige. You're in no moral high ground to start talking to her about what she should do with her relationship, let alone say something like, well, I feel like you're giving him nothing. I know. She was very firm in her stance of what they're relationship. relationship was and it's like how much time have you spent with the two of them like you're not in charleston with them you're seeing them on the weekends together you're basing it off of not a lot

of info maybe basing it off of what the info we have pretty much what we're watching yeah which is watching it on tv what we see on socials what people are talking about yeah so i don't think that you're the the end all be all of where they stand and i thought we got more out of page in this conversation than we have in the past because she's like i know i'm going to marry this man yeah and i wanted to be like tell him that, that would probably go a long way. I think she probably has. I'm sure they have behind, like, here's the biggest thing we need to take away from these two, Craig and Page.

They're fine. They're fine with where they're at. At least that's what they tell people. And like you always say, until there's a break in the case, we don't have to keep doing this. No. Because there's no new information present. But yeah, she takes it a step further. And Daniel goes, well, you have his balls on a mantle.

I was like, damn, you're taking shots. I said it earlier. does that even mean? I think it means like... You like to look at them every once in a while and be like, they're mine? No, I've heard like balls in your handbag. I think it's comparable to like balls in your purse, like that kind of thing where like, yeah, you kind of lead him along when he'll do whatever you want him to do.

A mantle implies that you like to look at them though, you know? I mean, yeah. If you want to display like serial killers, like displaying body parts and, you know... Yeah, if you want to take it absolutely literally, you fucking weirdo, no. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't take it that literally. No, understand what she was trying to say. Well, it was weird. It was weird.

But you get what she was trying to say. to do with it because you just broke it down yours what do you mean you now i'm starting to think that daniel might want to do something like that i don't know god you're an idiot but you can watch kyle throughout this whole scene his face is like oh shit and i think that it's a combination of what you were talking about where now she is distancing herself from the lindsay and carl drama i think she has gotten to a place with amanda and page where she's like oh we're all tight so i can In her mind, yeah, sure. In her mind.

Yeah, I think that if she looks at the season, you would see it more like, oh, you guys are starting to bridge some gaps, like you're getting more comfortable. Things are going well. Let's not rock the boat. Instead, let's rock the boat with Craig's balls and really get into this. And I think that she overstepped. I don't think that was her place to say that. And Paige clocks are later in her confessional, and we'll get to that.

But they get back home. And this is where I wrote in my book, because Gabby does a whole. flip over the couch, lands on the coffee table. And I was like, Gabby's hit her stride. And not because she's drunk falling over. She's just watch her in the after party. Yeah, watch her in the after party. She's dancing, vibing.

Kyle's like, you make sitting down look hard, which is one of the funniest lines of heard for a drunk person. I'm going to use that in the future. But she did. Like, it's good to see her. We already talked about it. But it's just nice to see that she's fitting into the group. She's viving with everybody.

Kyle and Amanda, they had a great night together. They were partying, which was fun to watch. It was just a fun night out. And we don't get a lot of those anymore. We don't get a lot of fun nights out. Usually we do get a fun night out, but there's no footage from it. They're not allowed to go in the park. So at least they finally figured out which bars they can go to and bring the cameras along.

I just, I find it surprising that bars and the Hamptons are like, fuck, yeah, come film. It's the Hamptons. That's a good point. They don't need the business. Yeah. Valid. Valid. That old money shit, they're like, get away from here.

Yeah, too, too. Yeah. Yeah, we don't go to the Hamptons. We go to Wildwood. Yeah. Bring your cameras wherever you want. Yeah, you could bring whatever you want anywhere. But actually, no, there's no cabanas on the beach this year.

Did I tell you that? No, I doubt. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, that's a problem. It's only in North Wildwood because they have no beach. Oh, really? Their beach is, like, pretty much gone, yeah. We're North Wildwood.

I know. What happened to the beach? Storms? The dredging didn't work, and a couple other things, yeah, so they just outruled. The other problem is that a lot of people, and now we're just going North Wildwood talk, a lot of people get there at, like, 7 a.m. and set up their whole big fucking thing, and then people can't sit there. Careful.

Weedy wakes up. Early. Okay, you can't do that. Well, that guarantees you get a good spot. Sure. Now you can bring your chairs there. You can't put a cabana up there, though. You can still put your shit there, so I don't, I feel like that's, well, then what's

just the big cabanas? Why? I don't know. People are going to get sunburn. It's not safe. You can have one eight-foot umbrella. Just beach tag it. I agree with that.

Just make beach tags. I've been pulling for beach tags for wildwood for a long time. Yeah, I think the beach tag. It's all. It keeps on the trash out. Only the classy wild people get to go. Like myself. Yeah.

But anyway, the next morning, we get page hungover, and this is where I wrote down, like, make the joke about it, don't miss that, you know, but you ruined it. But, oh, well, Gabby got a number the night before. Good for you, Gabby. Turns out to be a gay man, but hey, you're trying. Baby steps. Baby steps. We're moving in the right direction.

Danielle got some number, she said, but Lindsay brings up Joey Lunes, balloon guy Joe, and that I did see, she seemed to, a little more interested in him than she probably should be. Yeah, she was very excited about Balloon Guy Joe. She was excited, but she's also trying to hook her friends up. So I actually didn't have a lot of issues with Lindsay this episode. No, neither did I. Honestly, even when her and Carl were talking, I was leaning more towards her side of things.

And we'll get to that later. I'm kind of hoping that you were leaning towards Carl, though, because I wanted to get into a healthy debate. But, okay. No, it's hard to debate that one. We'll talk about it in a minute, but the stage is set between Gabby and Danielle, and I totally forgot. We got a flashback to it later on in the episode. when Gabby's saying, like, I'm not going toe to toe with Danielle over this.

And initially, I was like, oh, you don't think you can take her. I was reminded, I forgot about that scene last year. Gabby's like, yeah, that guy you hooked up with? She's like, oh, yeah. She's like, yeah, he was actively cheating on me with you. Yeah. Oof. I forgot all about that one.

That's a big one, especially now that they're going toe to toe over balloon guy, Joe. So that's an interesting little tidbit to add to this mix. But we got a pool convo with West, Amanda, and Pate. And this is about the lack of sex between him and Sierra. And he asked them, like, were you guys when you would go out? Is it like first night, first date, you're hooking up? Or do you wait? And a man's like, no, it's like two or three.

You got to work for a little bit. And they're like, why? And he's like, you know, it's weekend six and we still haven't had sex. And I think a big point that was made is like, well, how many dates have you been on? He's like, well, two. It's like, all right, well, that's not that long. And the biggest thing. and I think and I hope this doesn't get lost.

I didn't get from West that he's like, I need to fuck. Like, we need to figure. No, not at all. I think it's more so like it's bringing out insecurities in him where he's like, oh, I don't have a job. She's used to dating older men. I'm younger.

Am I not enough? Like, is that why we're not doing it? I don't think it's so much just to like get his rocks off. I think it's more so insecurities creeping through. That being said, it's one of those things, man. It's like, if she's not ready to have sex, then you're not having sex. Yeah, and that's completely fine.

I also think the approach of talking to her friends about it because they like you, so they're going to be able to talk to you on a real level, is way better than trying to force the situation in Sarah. Absolutely. And she probably would appreciate that too, because you're coming from a different perspective of, I just want to make sure that we're good because I feel like I've been doing everything the right way, and I don't want to push those boundaries with you,

but I'm going to talk to your friends about it because they talk about everything anyway. Yeah, I think that's the right approach. I think you're trying to, like, take the temperature and make sure that the lack of sex is not due to what he is currently. Yeah, it's not indicative of whether or not she's interested. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that that's the root of it. But Carl and Danielle start chit-chatting.

And I don't think that they ever had a problem. I think that that problem was rooted in the fact that Lindsay and Danielle had a huge falling out and Carl's engaged to Lindsay. So that's where everything happens. So you can tell that I think both of them are psyched to, like, be back in each other's good graces. But that's where Carl brings up the lover boy thing. and getting back into business with Kyle, and she's like, well, have you talked to Lindsay about it?

And he's like, no, I'm actually really nervous to. And as we've seen in the past, she's not the most supportive of his hopes and dreams. However, this is a real premise of a real job. This is different than I'm thinking about opening up a non-alcoholic sports bar. This is actually tangible. This is something you could probably start doing tomorrow. Yeah, exactly.

So I think it's a different situation than what we've seen before. but but then we get to page Amanda and Sierra and they're talking about the sex stuff again because Sierra hasn't obviously heard this conversation so they're filling her in as to what happened they have to take a quick pause because West comes in while they're talking about it and I thought it was even funnier that they're like

we're talking about you and what you told us earlier get the fuck out of here in your alien suit which was a great suit by the way but he bounces and they're chit-chatting about it I thought Sierra made excellent points here she's like it's so interesting to me that people are so quick to hook up but so slow to share their feelings like i'm not going to share my body with you if you can't share your feelings with me i was like that makes total sense and she also hammers home it's like look if this is

something that he needs from me like to move forward it's like that's not how this works when i'm ready to have sex we will have sex 1,000% absolutely there's no pushing that timeline when you're not prepared to have sex and that she's well within her right to say all of those things. The only thing I was like, oh, interesting is when she says, like, what are we even doing here? Like, we make out on the weekends and during the week, it's like, you're dating. That's what that is. You're dating. You're hanging out on the weekends. You're hanging out during the week. That is not saying, like, yeah, have sex by any means at all. It's just when you say, what are you doing? It's like, to me, you're seeing each other. What else do you do? Yeah, no, I would

fully agree with that. So I didn't really understand what she meant by any of that because, I mean, yeah, They only went on two dates, but I don't think that's counting, you know, the times that they're hanging out during the weeks. Like, I think she's physically saying, like, actually planned out dates with reservations and stuff because we've seen them hang out multiple times during the week. And we've seen them hang out in a group during the week. So they're still seeing each other in the city. It's not like, oh, wow, how was your week? You're talking all the time. Right.

So Sierra not understanding what's going on was confusing to me. Yeah. Because I think you guys have talked about it. And we're going to get a scene in the next week or two. where Paige is saying, are you hooking up with other girls to West? So I think that's what it's going to come down to is what do you guys both see it as?

And they need to have that conversation, obviously, and then you'll get a little bit further. So look, I don't care what pace they're moving at because I like them together and they're not starting any drama and I don't really care about any of that. It was just a little confusing to me that Sierra doesn't really understand

what's going on. Yeah. If you don't understand what's going on, then why are you still calling him when he's away and FaceTiming him and hanging out in bed together? like that's confusing to me it's confusing again not if she said that the west west would have every right in the world to be like well i'm confused what are we yeah like again that is not

saying anything about the sex part of it that's only about like yeah they're not boyfriend and girlfriend yeah that's just it's interesting like dating right oh don't start that nonsense again the fucking labels you and your fucking labels i'll never understand that it's really you in your labels you have the issue with labels i do i think they don't get it yeah because it's all semantics it like makes you feel better about a situation without actually changing the situation in any way, shape, or form just because you slap a different label on it does not mean it's different.

That's dumb. That's counterproductive. Whatever. It's so stupid to me. We move on. Balloon Guy Joe, he gets there. Yeah, Balloon Guy Joe shows up to put the balloons out for the party. Danielle immediately goes up and talks to him.

Gabby needs a minute because she wants to present her best self. She's like, I'm not going to meet this guy for the first time. Like, sweaty, setting up a party. Like, let me get my shit. together at all. Putting down some chicken salad, you know. Yeah, you know, you got to, I get it, which is totally fine. But we get to the space party. We get a Chris sighting. I was so excited to see Chris and they didn't blur them out or like, have like a background shot of him. He's still in the good graces. He's just not on the show. I miss Chris. I do. The dad jokes.

Honestly, like, and I know that there's already a problem with how many people are in that house, but like somebody like Sam, getting rid of Sam doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. I keep getting reminded of her. Really when I see Gabby, because the two of them came on the same season. I don't there where Sam, like Sam would fit in well in this house. I think with, especially adding West and Jesse, like, that would be a lot of fun. Unless, you know, Jesse and Sam start hooking up, then that could throw the whole thing off. But either way, I think that they got rid of some people that they shouldn't have gotten rid of.

I agree. You could have Chris come up on random weekends because he's fun. He's got good rapport with everybody else. You can have Sam come up on random weekends. I think they kind of missed the hit on that one. Chris could have filled the role that Corey was playing where he, like, shows up. No, no, no, no, no, not saying bring Corey back. I'm saying that, like, that role of he's going to pop up there every once in a while,

and then he's going to go back. Like, I could do it with a little bit more Chris and some awkward dad jokes in my life. Yeah. But regardless, the laser tag blow up thing. We need to look into that for a fucking set. That's the coolest shit I've ever seen. Like a blow up laser tag? At first I thought that they were just going in there and it was just going to be like nothing in there.

Same. It was a full course. And then I said, oh, well, they've just got guns out there because it's a space party. It's going to be fun. No, full laser tag. Yeah. Sick. I want that.

Fully in on that. Let's have a party for no reason and get that if we can. But balloon guy Joe, Joey Lunes, shows back up. He gets all dressed up, looking good, shows up. And Danny... You think dressed up and looking good? Is that what you're saying? I think compared to backwards hat, getting ready for the pool party.

I also don't appreciate, and we talk about it every time it's a costume party. Don't be the guy or the girl that shows up to the costume party. So when you put up the balloons, you know what you're doing. Yeah. I meant more so like, ask somebody and be like, hey, you know, I'm coming to this party later. Do you got anything for me? Put something on. I agree.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying more so he clearly tried to get cleaned up because he knew he was going to meet some single ladies. I don't appreciate ever when there's a costume party that you're too cool to dress up for the party. Just lean into it. Wear something. I thought his jeans could use a few more holes. Yeah, definitely get some more holes in those jeans. We need more holes in jeans.

I think that everybody can get behind that. Sure. I think that's actually coming back. jokes aside. I think that's a thing again. Yeah, I think multiple holes in the jeans. That's like high school for us. Yeah. I used to have a pair with a big old hole in the knee. Girls wearing holes of jeans, that's always been fine.

It's the guys that wear the holes in jeans. I'm like, now. It's a tough look. It's a tough look. Yeah, I agree. We get a conversation between Derek and West. Derek being Sierra's new manager and obviously has her best intentions at heart because, one, it seems like they're friends now. And two, she does well business-wise. He does well business-wise. He's definitely got her best interest at heart. And he's giving, like, the dad talk to West.

Like, what are your intentions with by Sierra? Pretty much. I thought it was kind of sweet that he at least started it off with. I've heard a lot about you. And it was all good stuff. I didn't have a problem with this scene. I know, no, not at all. I can tell he's got Sierra's back.

Just really hammering home the fact that she's going to be on the road a lot. Yeah. And it's going to strain your relationship if you want to build it to that. Correct. And I wonder how that affected them moving forward at all. if that conversation is in the back of his mind. It could be. I mean, this whole thing, obviously, it evolved within one weekend.

Obviously, Sierra reached out to West at some point and let him know how the meeting went and what was going on and, you know, kind of what you can look forward to, at least for Sierra being in the city for the next couple of months and years. He already started having second thoughts. He's already had issues. He's talking to Paige and Amanda

about the sex thing. Now he's got this on his mind, and then he runs into Derek, and Derek's talking about a little bit more so. It is a lot to deal with within one weekend. It's a lot. lot. It is a lot. He hasn't been there as much, though, recently. So it's like, here's everything. Yeah. Like, blah. But that'll tell you a lot about him, honestly. If you give a dude like that much to process about a potential relationship, how they respond to that's going to be very telling. Yeah. Like, if he's really into it, if he's going to see where things go or if

he's getting kind of tired of like Sierra, apparently not knowing where they stand, like that kind of stuff, it's going to be interesting to see how, like, his response to getting pressure to little bit into what he wants and what his intentions are. So we'll see how he responds. But we get a scene between Gabby, Lindsay, Page, and Amanda. They're sitting talking about Joey Loons. And they're like, where is he? It's like, oh, well, Danielle swooped. I love this move. They're like, well, you get back in there and you swoop them back. Let's get everyone swooping in. And she does. But Joey Loons is kind of a dork. Like this dude. He's like, why would you even ask me if a hundred a shot?

Just fill them up, baby. Like, all right. Tone it down. Yeah, tone it down a little bit. And I feel like that's the whole thing is they're pushing Gabby into the situation. And she's, it's not that she doesn't want to be in it. It's not that she doesn't want to go talk to Joey Lunes. She just wants to do it on her own terms and everybody's kind of forcing her to do that.

And I just think it's really funny because she starts off the weekend saying, my dad wants to know when I'm going to get a boyfriend. This is not a boyfriend prospect. No. not because of his profession because we don't know what else he does I don't like disparaging people I imagine it's just balloons maybe it's lucrative

sure whatever he doesn't seem like the type of guy that you're going to get into a relationship with he doesn't seem like the type of guy that Gabby wants to vibe with Danielle's just going to bob around look Daniel doesn't even give a shit she's talking to him

as soon as Gabby goes over she goes over and starts talking to two guys that she met at the bar last night so you can get in there you can do whatever the hell you want I think it's just the added pressure of Lindsay really wanting which is so weird this isn't coming

from a friend thing, like, oh, I really want you to hook up with this guy? It's a living vicariously. Lindsay thinks that he's hot. Yeah. It's living vicariously through them. Yeah, and that's all she's really doing. And anybody can tell that.

As soon as she starts talking about the guy, she starts glowing talking about this balloon guy. Like, come on. Yep. But Paige and Amanda start talking about the Craig conversation that Paige had had the night previously with Danielle. And she calls out, and she was ruthless about it, but she calls out a lot of the issues that

I had with the scene that you seemingly have with the scene as well. It's like you're telling me about my relationship, like job, relationship, all these things, all these personal things. You have no job or a boyfriend. I have both and you're going to give me advice on what to do. And I think the biggest thing to take away from here is when she says, this is kind of fucked up, but it was funny when she's like, tell Lindsay to take her friend back. We made a mistake.

But the craziest part, this is the second time we've seen this. And mind you, Paige and Amanda have not been cool with Lindsay in a very long time. There have been a lot of contentious summers, even before Carl and Lindsay were together. Take that out of the mix. They were still not always getting along. This is the second time that they've said something along the lines of, I see where Lindsay was coming from last year. I kind of get what she was saying when it comes to Danielle. And I think what you're getting is Danielle getting too comfortable.

You got too comfortable with two people that weren't that close to you. You started to get a little bit closer. And now you just shot yourself in the foot because you overextended yourself. You shouldn't have talked about the Craig thing. Because say what you want. All right. Say that Paige is checked out. Say that she leads him on, whatever.

I don't agree with any of those things. I think that that's just their dynamic and they're cool with it, whatever. But she will defend. Craig she will defend herself very well to the end of the earth like the things that she is passionate about she will go after you about it always provoked like she's not one to throw shade randomly usually usually usually but if you fuck with her like she's capable of throwing a haymaker and that's what she does right here in her confessional she's like we made a mistake back the fuck off stop talking about it and I think that was the craziest thing to me and I don't know

if it's, maybe she felt like she wasn't doing enough this season? It might be that. Honestly, the thing with Danielle, I think in her mind, she's bigger on this show than she actually is. And in reality, she's been gone for two weekends and I didn't notice that she was gone. Like, that's truly, I feel like that's how all viewers watch the show. Danielle comes back and you're like, oh yeah, Danielle's on the show. And when she gets involved in other people's shit, it's like you're not really, especially

coming off of last year, you should have the idea of, all right, I need to have an easy year. I need to have fun because at the end of the day, this show is about having fun. And if you're able to run around and have a great time, a la Jesse, a la West, obviously West with Sierra is a little bit different. But if you're able to do that on a show like this, that's really all we need. There's enough going on with the other marriages, the other big relationships in the house. We don't need any more of the forced drama. We don't need you to force yourself into those situations where you're talking about it because we have enough already. Go have fun and have yourself a relaxing summer.

You don't have to get involved. Don't get involved. You don't have to. You already shot yourself in the foot 50 times last year with Lindsay and Carl. You already did it. You've done it with Amanda and Kyle before. You've done it with everybody else in the house. You should just be looking forward to having a nice easy summer.

You're not important enough to jump into these relationships with these people because this is what's going to happen. The real mainstays on this show are going to sit down and say, what the fuck was that? And then they're going to gang up on you. You're not doing yourself any favors, and that's what's going to happen. And look, I think Danielle's tough enough to be able to handle it when there's retribution and people go after her. But it's not something that we want to watch at home. We're going to look at that and be like, all right, Paige and Amanda are going after you.

You kind of deserve it. Yeah, she's definitely tough enough. She can weather the storm, but it's like you didn't have to bring it upon yourself. Like, this is your own doing. Now you're going to have to deal with it because you felt the need to interject when he didn't have to. And that's where I'm like, in my head,

like she had to have felt like she needed to get involved more. Because she wasn't doing enough. And her role in the past seasons has been that person. That's like, hey, what about this? Are you guys actually good? Like, poke, poke. Yep. So now she's reverting to old habits rather than, like you said, just have it.

She was doing great, too. She was having a fun summer. Oh, great. Yeah. I mean, great as far as, like, her, not in getting involved with stuff. Like, she was just going out, having fun. During the Volvo Fall Experience event, discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design that leaves plenty of room for autumn adventures.

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offer, but he treats it as though, because in his confessionals and stuff, I think this is important to note because, yeah, we are normally team Carl on this show, especially throughout this whole season, but it was interesting to me how he presented it to her, because it was very different than how he's presented to other people on the show, how he's presented it to us in the confessionals, because the way that he frames it to her is more so like, yeah, we'll see, I'm not really sure about it, where in my mind leading up to this conversation, he's He's pretty much in. He's just trying to figure out how to, one, tell Lindsay and two, make that final decision of, yeah, okay, fine, let's give it a shot.

Yeah, the vibe that I get from at least this perspective or this part of their relationship is Lindsay has given him a very long leash on figuring out what you want to do because obviously, you know, he's going through sobriety and trying to navigate all of that, of course. But when it comes to his career, and we've seen this from Carl a million times on this show, he never has any solid idea of what he wants to do with his career. and he hymns and halls at everything that he's going to be doing. I think Lindsay's done a pretty good job of letting him go. And yeah, she's getting frustrated now because you're coming up with ideas of like, hey, I'm going to start a brick and mortar non-alcoholic sports bar. Sure, like, if somebody else did it and it popped up, you'd be like, oh, that's a pretty cool idea. That takes years of development and all of this money for something that might not work out.

All I'm asking you to do is just find a job. Yeah. Not find a passion and do this. Like you're not in a comfortable enough position to do that, especially in this relationship or even financially. I assume so. So Lindsay's giving him enough of a leash. So now he's coming back with something that's very concrete, very plausible. I think she did a good job of navigating that too, even asking him like, look, you did this last year.

It didn't work out. Are you in a good spot right now to do that? Do you think you can actually manage that? And even then, Carl doesn't really have an answer. He's like, I want to go see and see what it's all about. You know what it's about. It's very straightforward as to what it's about. It's you working with Kyle once again.

So how does that make you feel? And he still doesn't really have an answer in that moment. and he takes the this is like Carl playing the victim during all of this and look you can analyze their relationship as much as you want pick your side whatever we do think that Lindsay in a lot of respects is a monster yep but in this moment you get to see the other side of the coin you get to see the other side which is Carl not really having any sort of idea of what's going on and when she says look like and this ties back into the sex thing when she says look I'm turned on by somebody who has that chase for life I've got somebody who wants to have that drive to go do

something important crushing life crushing life he plays the victim he's like you don't think i'm like no carl you're not crushing life i'm sorry but you're not you don't have the job you're doing a lot of really amazing things in your sobriety you're sure yeah but you can leave that side like that's what i'm saying is like yeah you're doing a lot of amazing things but as far as you know making that next step into okay well what's the next five years look like things like that when she speaks from the perspective of look we're about to get married i need to know that i and myself I'm taking care of, that the kids are taking care of. It's not saying, like, oh, I need a sugar daddy.

It's just saying, like, hey, I need a mutual partner. And, you know, when we do have kids, are you able to support us all? Like, could you do that? I thought it was interesting that she took the approach of it turns me on. And I questioned it. I was like, that's weird, though. Like, you couldn't just say, like, I, this is what I want out of my partner. I think it's trying to motivate.

It's probably trying to motivate, but I think it's what it's also doing is bringing in. And we talked about this with Kyle and Amanda last week. when they're fighting about something and there's like seven different things on the table that they're fighting about and they don't even realize that's what they're doing. I think that's what's happening here too

because we got a glimpse into why this relationship doesn't work. And Carl, you've known Lindsay for how fucking long. You've been engaged to her for only a short amount of time during that span. You have an idea of what she likes

and what she doesn't like and I think everything's kind of coming to a head now where they're not having sex. So she's tying in the sex aspect to something else. And it's all interconnected, of course. but I didn't really have a problem with her bringing that up because that's another sticking point

that they're having issues with her now. I didn't have a problem with it. You thought it was interesting. Yeah. That way until I said it to Dev and Dev's like, I think she's just using that like to try to somewhat motivate and be like, hey, if you were out there crushing it, I don't know if our sex life would be a problem.

Yeah. But the overall... I think Carl's the problem with the sex life thing, though. Well, the overall consensus... Just based off of that one comment that I saw. I want to have sex with that. I want to have sex with that. That is interesting.

But the overall consensus for me watching the scene, because even when she gets done kind of telling her where she's at, she's like even if it's with lover boy, like I just need you to make a move. Like I need this timeline to be shorter. I think she's well within her right to say those things. At no point that I think she was overstepping,

being rude, condescending. He takes it that way. You can tell he takes it that way. But I thought that as a partner, especially as your fiance, she's allowed to say these things. Right.

Like, hey, let's fucking move it a little bit, bud. Like, you have a prospect now. This is a real prospect. I know it has to do with working with Kyle but all that we've seen from Carl is excitement over this potential idea but when he goes to talk to Lindsay it's more that I don't know then you get the last confessional with Carl and he's like you know it's just hard like I never feel supported it's like look there's a lot of times this season you could say that she's not supportive a lot yeah this is not one of them no she was

being supportive she was telling you this is what I need from you even if it's doing that I just need you to fucking do something yeah and I think that's fair I think we've seen that over the last couple of weeks too, honestly, and this is kind of funny because it's been a season long saga of when is the turning point and when do we see it. We're seeing it slowly but surely, but it's starting to point in the direction of Carl's the one who's getting the cold feet. And look,

I get it. We're a couple of weeks removed from the whole what are you on conversation that happened on sequential Fridays. Of course that's going to happen. But now there's other aspects of your relationship that's coming to light and it looks like Lindsay's trying. In that respect, she's trying, and she's trying to do other things. And yeah, I know we can like hone in

on the certain comments that she makes about him being out of town for the week and her loving her space or whatever, that's fine. I don't really give a shit about any of that. She's trying to help right now for somebody who she's viewing as her partner for life to set up a life with. And you're not really trying to find a career. You're just kind of like backing into something with lover boy and whatever. And for him to play the victim in this, I'm like, he's looking at any opportunity to say,

I don't know if this is the person for me. Yeah. I think his mind's already been made up. And look, if his mind's made up because she's, She's accusing him being on drugs weeks ago. Fine. Then lean into that and just hold on to that. That's fine.

But don't start spinning these other things when it looks like Lindsay's trying to help the situation and say, you know what? Maybe she's not the one for me. I'm like, I think she's being supportive. Yeah. And see to Erratel, you guys hate Lindsay. Yeah.

Look, we will see it from both sides and we're presented with the information. But, yeah, I was on her side here. I was like, yeah, that's fair. What you're saying is fair. And I think the biggest point that she gets there is she didn't get heated. Nope.

Everything was concise to the point. She's definitely a little confused, which is fine. Yeah, she was. And I think that, you know, as we know, Carl ends up going back to Lover Boy, and it seems like it's doing well for him, so good for him. But, yeah, it was an interesting scene. I was confused by it. But let's get in some questions.

All right. Let's start this one off with Miranda E. 412. Curious, have you guys ever had Lover Boy drinks? I have. I know Steele hasn't tried the non-alcoholic yet. No, I have not. I have, I don't really care for them. I think they're just like watered down Twisted T's,

and I don't even like Twisted T's. I missed the entire Seltzer craze. I never had a Seltzer in my life. I never will. Never will. We get an old-fashioned Mary Boink Kill here from Sabrina Sabah 1. Carl, Kyle, Jesse.

Ooh. Boink, Mary, Kill. I'm probably going to, damn that's a good one I'll probably marry Carl because we're both sober and that would be an easy transition fuck I guess kill

Jesse just because I've known Kyle longer but and point Kyle but I think you know what Jesse's probably a good bang yeah no I'm going I'm going Boyk Jesse marry Kyle Kill Carl

Okay Yeah We usually agree on those That's interesting I know Oh this is a good one This is kind of like an all-encompassing Bravo one

But Zoe Cudla Polay Says if you had to pick One episode of any Bravo show To show a non-Bra watcher What would it be? Oh man Any episode It would have to be a

Like if it's It's one of our friends, one of the dudes that we're trying to get into it. It's got to be a summer house, Vanner Pump, or Southern Charm. Oh, man, it would probably be... You could do recent history if you... Because a lot of the episodes from, like, older seasons just kind of merge together. Yeah, I would say if you showed them, like, Southern Charm when... Honestly, probably the first episode of Southern Charm this year.

And again, this is recency bias. but because they could get the gist of it when the dudes are sitting there and JT drops the news in the bar that Austin was sleeping over at Taylor's house and like that whole thing kind of sets the stage but you get the dudes and like then you get to see Charleston and stuff like that either that or yeah probably that's the other ones like actually fuck that I would go back to season one Vanderpump rules show them the first episode first two episodes and just see the that dynamic between jacks and stossie and that's what got me hooked because i was like what the fuck am i watching this is nuts probably that yeah i think if it's one of assuming it's one of our friends because it's just it would get too tough if it's like one of our friends and we wanted to show them like mid seasons like of roney or something they're not going to be into it no no you got start the housewives aren't just aren't going to work but housewives is like for anyone out there trying to get yourself a brav bro you got to save the housewife shows for later on in their

career you got to start with the vander pumps the southern charms the summer houses i'd probably go and i don't i don't remember which season this was but i'm going to go summer house when kyle and luke almost came to blows oh that's actually a good call yeah there's a lot they were out and they were hammered all day and then it ended up with that so is that the one where carl then runs downstairs yeah that's outside yeah that's probably that one you got to you got to do something with like some testosterone in it unfortunately this is kind of funny because i just said this about uh daniel but bridget jay said did anyone else not realize the gabby wasn't in last week's episode i didn't no i just didn't no but that was no no shade to gabby i just like

there's a lot going on and i don't really when she is on it she's she's very pleasant and enjoyable to watch so it's not a knock that you didn't notice her she's also not getting involved in trivial bullshit we've seen her kind of be the referee for a lot of things actually which she's that she's having a good season in my mind she's doing exactly what a slightly newer member of the should be doing it's like take your time you'll be a mainstay at some point but you don't have to jump all in you can't because not everybody is west and jesse as well like those guys fucking just slid in that that doesn't happen very often and one last question here from christie jedlickey this is for me specifically who would you want as your wingman from this cast probably west

i mean that's just an easy one yeah west or jessie um west or carl or i'm sorry wester kyle West or Kyle, yeah, because Jesse, I feel like would... He might try. He might try to steal my girl. Yeah, West, I think, would actually be like, hey, let's get you a lady tonight. Yeah, absolutely. But, yeah, that's all I got for questions. Well, as Shooter said, in the beginning of the episode, we got our live show coming up soon.

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