Bros & Shows - Alexia and Marysol Stay in Seville(Part 1 of 2) (RHOM Full Recap)

Episode Date: August 29, 2025

What's up Bros? The ladies of RHOM are still in Seville. Alexia and Marysol have decided that they wont be going on Julia's trip. Don't worry, Julia is totally fine with it... Lisa gets word that she ...is officially divorced. Kiki and Adriana are still at odds from the ratchet/ wretched debacle. Stephanie is upset at Alexia and Marysol for not going on the plane. In Marbella, Julia asks Derek to be the godfather to her kids. Things escalate at the Plaza De Espana when Stephanie calls out Alexia. It turns into an all out argument as everyone chimes in about everything. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:23 none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. Stephanie, climbing her way up the ranks again. I like Stephanie. This was like, this is why Miami is so good because we just get continued chaos and they're bringing up old fights. They're being petty to each other. And none of it's annoying.
Starting point is 00:00:47 It's all just random and full chaos. Nothing ever seems to die, but it's not just like stupid things that we don't care about anymore. It's just simply two people that probably don't like each other. It's a bit of a power struggle. That's the thing. You know what? I'm going to save it for the pod. Do it.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Bros and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Bros and shows. I got to have me my Bros. Shows and shows. Do it now. Good morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:20 And welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows. I'm your co-host. Steel Russell, joined us always by the one and only ice coffee McGee. What's up, dude? If you're watching the YouTube right now, this is a great coffee glass. Oh, wow, American Psycho. Do you like Hue, Lewis, in the news?
Starting point is 00:01:37 I, yes, I do, and I like the movie American Psycho. But before, we've done this before, but we're doing it again. Do you think that that movie actually happened, or is Norman Bates Schizophrenc, and that whole thing was made up in his head? That's the big theory. Yeah, Norman Bates might be Schizophrenc. fernic. Oh, wait,
Starting point is 00:01:59 Norman Bates, sorry. His last name is Bate. Fuck. What's his name? Patrick Bavon. Patrick Baitman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:09 So the problem with American Psycho Discourse is that film bros and douchebags have ruined that movie. So, like, guys like that aren't really even allowed to like the movie because we just
Starting point is 00:02:21 immediately get accused of being assholes. But you and I can just sit here and talk about it. No, the whole thing was in his head. He didn't kill any of it. but he's just a little crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I think he killed a couple of people, but I think some of them were in her head in his head. No, that's, that's, hey, that's the reason for it. But yeah, I think I didn't read the novel, but I think the novel goes a little deeper on that. Yeah, we don't read. I'm a visual learner. Let's, we've gone over this before.
Starting point is 00:02:47 If you're going to hand me a transcript of like housewife shows, I'm not reading shit. I'm watching. You can't even read. I think that's the best way to do it. Let's just do it this way. For the people, we're going to get fucking hate for the,
Starting point is 00:02:58 actually i'm not making fun of readers but i'm not i respect the hell out of them yeah good for them especially you sit at the beach steals down the shore right now i'm gonna join them a little bit uh the decorations behind me i love it i just love beach house decor because like even when it's you know a house that like people put into like my parents live down the shore but they still have to have and i don't really understand it but like where's the line where it's your house that you live at full time when do you start putting up like normal stuff not just all beach stuff like you want to have the beach stuff up in the summer do you just like start swapping down pictures and signs and stuff or do you just leave that like where you have a storage bin of like summer fall winter spring i don't know i feel like
Starting point is 00:03:43 you move down to the shore to feel like you're always on some sort of vacation and that in title or not in titles but that entails having beach decor all over your walls because if you start putting up normal stuff then you're going to feel like you're just at home you know what i mean and you want to feel like you're kind of on decay. You could say the same thing about a lake house. Like if you live on a lake, do you have signs around your house that say, caution,
Starting point is 00:04:06 lake nearby or... Yeah, or life's better at the lake. Life's better at the lake, which, you know, life's better at the beach too. So... Lake my balls. Well, that one stays up. That actually goes up exclusively around Christmas
Starting point is 00:04:19 and Thanksgiving when families are coming over. But, yeah, actually, you know, that's a really good point. You can just sit there like Thanksgiving dinner when you got your weird uncle who wants to get political and you're like, hey, read the side, buddy. Lake my balls, Val. Did you not see the side when you walked in?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Oh, okay. Check it out. Okay, Uncle Dennis, you can fuck off. But before we get into Miami, we have a live show coming up on Thursday, September 11th, that's 730 at the city winery in Philadelphia. Tickets are only $20 to $25. So make sure you head to the link in our Instagram bio. Get your tickets today.
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Starting point is 00:05:12 And we will see you at the show. But let's talk about Miami. Again, we love this season. I've heard there's some mixed reviews online, but I think it's great. Like, I love this episode. You get some great interaction. reflections. Stephanie continues to just be this ebb and flow for me where like one episode I'm out. This episode I'm back in. But Julia, I can't. I can't. I fucking just straight up
Starting point is 00:05:40 can. We said this last week. I think when we saw the trailer, we kind of went through what this week's episode was going to look like. And I knew that there was going to be a pretty sizable chunk of this episode is nice things that Julia is doing. getting a godfather for her kids that she just adopted and they're going to try to make it so sentimental I could not get through that I was just like I just simply don't care and you know what what's his name Jeremy
Starting point is 00:06:09 is that his name Jeffrey? Jeffrey is his husband his husband who is he's on vacation or something right he has to work in Miami or some shit I like Derek a lot I think Derek is great Derek is a fucking he is a movie character bro like that was so funny
Starting point is 00:06:27 I could see him actually being like a James Bond villain at that house I could see him and and his temperament you know he he pulls you in with the warmth and then all of a sudden he's got a secret layer under that big old house in Mabaya also I'm not even gonna wait to get to that scene him inviting all of his friends over
Starting point is 00:06:47 while the housewives are there is so fucking funny like a couple of those guys are definitely just like divorced straight dudes that are just like oh yeah let's go with Larson Pippen there? Let's see what she looks like. What are we over here? I've been subscribed to her only fans for like two years. I saw like when they first walked in, I'm like, oh, these guys think that they're going to have a great time over here. It's like a fucking speed dating. This is love hotel in Spain. Yes. But no, I knew that like a huge chunk of this episode was going to be
Starting point is 00:07:15 sentimental, Julia, having a sit down with this guy, you know, talking to her friends about it. And I simply just don't care. I simply don't care. It's not, it's a lot different than like, you know I don't know say we switch her with Tamara if Tamara was doing something like this I think I would still care to some degree I'd be like you know what you're a terrible person but like you're still an integral part and you're not really like Julie is a bad person like an actual bad person Tamara's just an asshole and like a lot of people like assholes so that's fine Julie is just a bad person so I don't care this doesn't hit and it was about 15 minutes but thankfully the other 30 minutes of this episode really hit it was really good it's really camp I love love the little squabbles that we get over and nothing ever dies here yeah and i love the the split group i love ditching out on a forty thousand dollar airplane like that kind of stuff is where really starts to move the needle but let's jump in to this episode and we're in the lobby and say what you will say what you will lease is on time okay so maybe it's working i don't know maybe that's just a little bulliers i think she's a little light yeah do we call it bullying i know
Starting point is 00:08:23 that's like a big word. No, because that's a, that's a little, uh, forced persuasion. Humiliation. I like that. I can get on board with that. I think because you see it here and then I think later she's late again. So if you just give her a little light persuasion, but you do it daily, you might get some, some step in the right direction for her when it comes to tardiness. Um, but yeah, I, I think she heard the message loud and clear after last night when we sat down and started drawing diagram. of the plane to see who could sit where, which was ridiculous. But that's kind of led to where we are. Yeah, because the very next scene, we hear in the lobby that Alexia and Maristel are not going. And we hear that from, who is it?
Starting point is 00:09:07 It's Lisa and I think Kiki's down there. Stephanie's not. Okay, so the person hosting the plane ride is not down there. Everybody seems to know. Julia is already spinning it. She's already spit in the narrative. That was the big, that was so embarrassing. It was so fucking embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Before we get to that part, though, we get Alexia and Marisol talking and like there's this is a tough one for me because like there's parts I agree with uh you know she drops the mini Mussolini comment which is pretty funny and I agree like that we talked about it last week that was a ridiculous ridiculous I don't even know what to call it but like sitting down and doing the seating chart threatening to leave people now I didn't take her seriously as far as leaving people like I didn't think that that was real I did see why Marisol got pretty tired of whole thing and walked away yeah but i didn't ever think that i thought it was one of those moments
Starting point is 00:09:59 you know shit gets heated you've been drinking a little bit you've got your crew and you guys start talking shit you get a little rowdy you get a little over the top you probably wake up the next morning oh yeah it wasn't it's not that deep but like in the moment you guys are feeding off each other's negative energy that's what i got from it but i both oh go ahead yeah no i i would have i think we would have all benefited from a an extra scene of marisol and alexia sitting down deciding that they're not going, you know what I mean? Because I do want to see what the power dynamic is between the two of them, because in my head, the way that it played out, Alexia was down to talk to Stephanie and joke around
Starting point is 00:10:34 with Stephanie about who's not going. And she was excited to get the it itinerary. But I think we, I mean, it was very visible. Marisol was not into it. Marisol hated it. She just wanted another drink. She couldn't believe that we were doing this. It's getting too far.
Starting point is 00:10:47 So I think she woke up and was like, I don't want to do this. This is insane. Which, by the way, this is the most related. thing I've ever seen. Do we really, I don't give a fuck if there's a private jet. Do I want to just let
Starting point is 00:10:59 the chaos go away for just one day? Like they'll be back tonight. We'll go to dinner. Give me like six, seven hours of just some peace and quiet and let me go explore this beautiful city.
Starting point is 00:11:10 That's the most relatable shit ever. And I totally understood. But I am happy with the way that it turned out a little bit later. But I think we would have benefited from a scene just to see because we usually see Alexia making the orders,
Starting point is 00:11:22 barking orders, saying, you know, I don't want to say barking too loud because, you know, Rottweiler, Chihuahua type of thing. Yeah, here we go. I'm an eagle. All right. But, like, I do, I do want to see these moments because I do genuinely think that Marisol was the changing vote with this.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Marisol was the one who probably came in. It was like, I don't want to do this. Like, that was too much last night and tried to sway Alexia a little bit. And Alexia agreed. We usually see it going the other way. So I do like to see that because we always have those two together, but it seems like Alexia is kind of the lead dog. And when it comes down to it now, it's,
Starting point is 00:11:53 Like, I think Marisol does have some sway and she can say some things. So I just kind of wanted to see that, but it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things because it's enough to get everybody just on edge. What the fuck's going on? Why are they not allowed to go? I think it's the perfect feud because on one side, you can understand where they're coming from. Like you said, it's very relatable.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Give me a day on vacation away from the group. Like everyone knows when you travel the ton of people. There's like the third or fourth day. You're like, I don't want to see these people anymore. I want to be with one person. All I thought about was me and you. All I thought about was me and you. We 100.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And it's like, can you guys shut the fuck up? Seriously, just shut the fuck up. I am hung over. We're in a beautiful city. It's a nice day. I want to go walk. I'm going to grab some coffee. I'm going to go probably take in a sport.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I don't know if there's a bull running around here. We're in Spain right now. Maybe there might be a bull running. I want to do something fun that doesn't revolve around this group of people. Go ahead. Or an itinerary. I'll tell you exactly what would happen. You and I would wake up before other people.
Starting point is 00:12:56 We would go get coffee and we'd be like, let's just keep walking. Turn your phone off, we're in a different country. Nobody can purchase. Yeah, exactly. But that's why this is a good one. Yeah, sorry, dude.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I can't pay my roaming fees. But that's why it is relatable. Because you have on one side, you're like, I get it that's fucked up to ditch the airplane, especially because they were kind of the driving force behind it. But I get it. And on the other side,
Starting point is 00:13:21 you understand why the group would be upset. So it's the perfect kind of feud because you can kind of jump back and forth. But when we're in the lobby, or actually, before we talk about the lobby, back with all the other girls, this dynamic between Alexia and Marisol, I used to think that Alexia was not the ringleader, but kind of pointed them in a direction. What I do firmly believe now, Marisol is the mastermind. She just goes along with Alexia because sometimes it's easier to just nod your head than to battle with her. But when push comes to shove and a decision has to be made, Marisol points Alexia where she wants her to go. Like, we're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And Alexia makes almost like you have to make Alexia believe it was her idea. Like she does, she sets it up. So Lexi's like, yeah, you know what? We shouldn't go. Marisol's like, good idea. Great idea. Let's not go. So I think that she's actually the one that's pulling the strings.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And we're starting to see that more and more. But let's get to the lobby. You know, everyone's down there. They thought things were fine. Stephanie arrived. She thought they were good because they were, she was keying with Alexia. night before. You can tell Marisol was visibly upset and didn't want to be there. Alexia wasn't like that. So clearly Marisol got in her ear a little bit and that shifted her
Starting point is 00:14:30 focus of all this, but Stephanie's really upset. Kind of understandably so. And then Adriana arrives and Kiki is just firm colds. I love that. It was so petty where it's like, I'm not even going to look at you. I'm not going to acknowledge you. And the awkwardness starts immediately. Go ahead. I like the way that they do that, though. This is pretty much how. things should be handled. And I love that it's with Adriana, too, because she can go to a confessional and say whatever she wants. Like, you know what? I see the Kiki's putting up a border. I don't want to go over that. But in real time, she's absolutely just going to poke a little bit just to see if she can get in there. And she'll go to her confessional and be like, I didn't do any
Starting point is 00:15:08 of that. I just, I understood what was going on. I recognized the situation and I sat down. She'll talk to me when she talks to me. But in real time, I'm sure she was like, right, Kiki? You agree with that. Right, Kiki? Like, just trying to get a rise out of her at all just so she can start that conversation so that's really funny too but again i mean we talked about all of that and we talk about it a little bit more later but we talked about the night before it was funny it was truly was funny and it was just two people who again were on a trip that just start hating each other because you're so together for so long and it seems like you can't get away from a person you just start fighting it happens it's it's whatever and they're going to be able to move past it but it's just
Starting point is 00:15:46 that's good stuff that's good tv that's what i want to see i agree I completely agree. We're getting a lot of really good, pointless feuds that I'm enjoying this season. They're not getting annoying, which I really appreciate. Yeah. Goodbye. Summer movies, Hello, Fall. I'm Anthony Devaney. And I'm his twin brother, James.
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Starting point is 00:17:45 Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, And in which case, it calls us. But we get on the sprinter van. So Julia's take on this whole thing. It's Julia's Day, right? We're spending $40,000 on a private jet to fly 22 minutes to go see Derek and Jeffrey, the Godfather thing.
Starting point is 00:18:05 We're setting this up as a big Julia moment. This is kind of her highlight of the season I'm imagining. Alexia and Marisol are her new best friends. You know, they've been this trio. And you and I said, there's going to be a day. where she's going to be on the outs now this should be that day she should be pissed off if this was anybody else if this was lisa larza anyone else in this crew this is a big fucking deal this is gertie this is world war fucking three but it's her new cool kid friends and she's like you know what
Starting point is 00:18:38 i totally get it i'm totally fine with it i'm not upset at all i see where they're coming from you know what i don't even want to go anymore i don't even want to go do i want to go hang out with my friends because they're my real friends guys that shit was just straight up embarrassing it was embarrassing it's embarrassing and i like the two the two things that come from this obviously one the rest of the crew actually recognizes that they see that there's an imbalance if this was anybody else julia wouldn't be this cool with it the other part of it is it's just embarrassing like julia had an opportunity to potentially bounce back a little bit and again i you can't really correct the things that you're doing outside of the show
Starting point is 00:19:16 But in the show's format, you have an opportunity here to not show favoritism, to not bow down, which is what we're accusing you of doing. And what your friends are accusing you of doing, by the way, over the last couple of weeks in the show, you now have an opportunity to flip shit. Well, what the fuck? Bounce back. Treat people the same way that you would treat other people. Then it becomes more balanced. Then you have people like Gertie coming over and being like somewhat of the voice of reason. You know what?
Starting point is 00:19:41 If they don't want to come, screw them. They don't want to be here for you. Adriana can step in. Like you can get back into a better group of friends where you're not just chasing these people that again, we assume that they're going to burn that bridge at some point. They're going to completely just cast her out and then she's going to be stuck alone. But you have an opportunity here to at least ingratiate yourself with the fans a little bit by bouncing back and not holding people to a different level when it comes down to some shit like this. Because I feel like this, again, you know, I'm on Alexia Marisol's side thinking I don't really want to do this. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:20:11 but you're still trying to be a good friend. You can hold their feet to the fire. They can say they don't want to go because they don't want to do things that Stephanie wants to do. They don't want to follow her rules. But really, they just want to stay back and just get away from the chaos. Both things are kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:20:25 But you can still hold their feet to the fire and at least look like you're trying to work everything out with the whole group rather than just projecting favoritism. I completely agree. It was a huge missed opportunity and it was embarrassing. And as they're talking about it, Julia is mad at Stephanie. Like Stephanie,
Starting point is 00:20:44 it's your fault they're not here because your delivery can be bossy and blah, blah, blah. They didn't want to get left behind. Which, yeah, she made that threat the night before. It's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Like, come on. I just, I can't see it being taken that seriously. And, you know, Larsa steps in and she's like, and of course she steps in, but she's like,
Starting point is 00:21:03 she's damned if she does, damned if she doesn't. Like she's trying to be nice. She's a kiss ass. She puts down some rules. and now she's a hard ass. Like, what do you guys want? And there is a middle ground.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Like, yeah, the jettiquette stuff is ridiculous. And I would have the same exact sentiment towards everything going on. At the same time, like, she is spending $40,000 to fly 22 minutes for Julia. You know, and I think at the end of the day, and I'm glad that the rest of the group takes it this way, too. Like, they have some sense. If you really are her friend, you can put this shit to the side. Larsa and Lisa put their stuff to the side. Adriana, Kiki, they put their stuff to the side.
Starting point is 00:21:39 everyone put their shit to the side to make this flight now as we know alexia and marisol are more selfish than the other people they're out for each other and that's it and i thought that this would be that moment where it's like yeah see we told you so but no that we're just giving excuses for them which sucks but giving excuses but again like the excuse is and this is i don't know if it's masterful or if marisle and alexia just started talking and julia just kind of pulled out little details like oh it's not because they don't want to be with me it's because they don't want to do was what Stephanie wants to do. That's really all of this.
Starting point is 00:22:11 So she's just passing the buck. But in reality, it's kind of fucking genius because you're creating drama for the show, which is great. And you're also getting a day to yourself. Like, I know truly the reason they didn't want to go is because they just want to hang out with each other and just enjoy the city. Oh, yeah. They just had an excuse.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And relax. And now they have a built-in excuse. And that's, you know, lo and behold, Alexia was on board the night before. Once Marisol starts talking about it, it's like, okay, do you want to just like relax here and not deal with all this shit. Cool. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Let's go have ourselves a day and CBE and we'll just move on. That's all we're going to do at this point. Yeah, you like that? Yeah, we're just going to have ourselves a day. Oh, wait, we've got a built-in excuse here. Let's blame Stephanie a little bit. We're not really going to throw her under the bus. We're not going to make this the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:22:57 We're just going to say we feel uncomfortable with everything coming to a head last night with what Stephanie was saying. And then let people read through the lines and then they just convey whatever they want. And it works out on both sides. because now you give Stephanie some ammo as well. And while you're on the plane, Stephanie has the opportunity to stand up and say, oh, they love you so much, Julia. They love you so much. But they're missing this because I have rules because I said,
Starting point is 00:23:20 don't scratch the seats, blah, blah, blah, because I have jetic. They care more about making me look bad than they do about you. And I was like, damn, that's a good line. Stephanie's climbing the rankings once again. But we get to Marbea and that house, dude. is just comically large. Like, it is unbelievable. They got the pool right by the water.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It looks like a James Bond villain house. You're 100% correct. And we meet Derek, who is just a character. Like, he's, you know, coming in close for the smooches. Did you see how he hugs? Oh, yeah. He even asked Larsa for a cuddle. Yeah, can I get a cuddle?
Starting point is 00:24:00 She's like, oh, I'm a great cuddler. I'm a great cuddler. Yeah, absolutely. Why not? I've seen the house. Why not? Come on in for a cuddle. Could you imagine?
Starting point is 00:24:08 if he just lived in like an apartment in this place. That'd be so funny. Do you think I'm sure Bravo probably had to like scout some things like, all right, yeah. Oh, this is this is a great house for housewives. Yeah, why not? We'll come out here and film all day. But in reality, it's like if he lived in just a one bedroom apartment
Starting point is 00:24:25 with his husband and they had like a dog and they lived in like a high rise somewhere over there and they don't even bother going up. They're like, all right, Julie is leaving for the day. We're going to follow the rest of the crew in Sebilla. We're just going to go ahead and do this. would be that would be a much different scene but no instead he's got the white lotus hotel and he's got like a full staff there it's all of this yeah this part i was like oh he's like yeah she's like my like my hot waiters around here like waiting on me hand if i'm like
Starting point is 00:24:53 that i mean it's funny but you know what do you guys think about my boys yeah i was like oh that's an interesting way to call your staff did not realize that your staff is all men these are just eye candy i get it now yeah hey hey no judgment here but I guess they met in Miami, and I'm imagining Martina had a lot to do with this one. I don't know, but they met in Miami. They've been very close for a long time. They grew up with their girls, and now they're going to be the godfather of the boys, as we know, and Julia Summers there every year, which is, I'm kind of jealous.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I'm not going to lie. But we keep getting the line from Julia that we're not giving her daughters enough time to adjust, which is a crazy line. And like, I've tried to play devil's advocate on this one and be like, okay, I understand when it comes to adopting kids, especially in their circumstance, like there can be things that happen where it's like you get a call the day before. And it's like, hey, we found somebody there. You need to take these boys today. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:48 But I wonder what the lead up to that was. Like, I have questions about multiple things. And you brought this up before. Like, okay, is this about the kids? Is this about their current barrage on Twitter, you know, being transphobic and talking about in vitro fertilization and all that other weird. shit that Martina's on about right now. Like, it could be a list of things, and I don't really know, and I don't know if we're ever going to get the answer to that.
Starting point is 00:26:14 But there is a scene coming up that I thought was slimy. But, yeah, I have a lot of questions when it comes to this. I'm sort of in between where I don't know if I want the answers to it, because that's when it starts to get to, like, I can't imagine that the daughters are going to come on the show and explain their side of things, right? And we might get an appearance on, like, social media where one of her daughters says something and like put something out there and then everybody knows what's going on i don't know if i even really want that either just because like rule number one keep the kids out of it to be
Starting point is 00:26:44 honest but a lot of it is the lead up i think when we think back to her and martina talking about it martina was staunchly against it i mean she was going through chemo she was trying to figure out life and what it looks like after that and julia was just an empty nestor just i have no purpose in life i don't know what to do which you know it's fine i understand that part of it and you want to adopt things accelerated in the off season. We didn't get to see what that was like. Was there a falling out with her daughters? Did she not keep them in the loop?
Starting point is 00:27:12 I still keep coming back just because it's funny and I like to make light of situations that she sent the Zoom link and they were in a different country and didn't see the Zoom link or they got on late. And she said, you know what? You're going to read it in the press just like she did to Gertie. So maybe she did that to her daughters and her daughters hate her now. That's a possibility.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I wouldn't put anything past her. But there's some sort of inner family dynamic that I don't because I don't care about Julia it's not that I don't care about this it's just she needs to stop fucking talking about it like seriously you just need to leave them alone that's the only way that you're going to be able to figure it out as a family is if you let them go in peace and don't trash them on your housewife show don't talk about how it's a one side of battle how they don't understand and it was too quick for them and they need to adjust like yeah at some level I agree they do need to adjust because you do have these boys you
Starting point is 00:28:02 did adopt these boys. And if they want to be in your family and they want to continue to see you, they're going to have to adjust. They're going to have to deal with it. But we don't know all of the other little things that could have happened along the way. We don't know how they feel about what's going on on social media right now between her and Martina.
Starting point is 00:28:16 So there's a lot that we don't really get. All I would say is stop fucking talking about your daughters. If they don't want to air out their shit, you shouldn't do it. You're pulling a Tamara judge and we know how that ends. So maybe slow your role a little bit. But while all this is going on. We get more information about that affidavit at dinner because we get confirmation that Lisa is officially divorced. Finally,
Starting point is 00:28:41 her and Lenny are officially on the outs. Do you think that was the affidavit that she had to sign the night before? That's what I think. Yeah, I do. And that's like giving more. I don't think it was. Here's my theory. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yeah. I don't think she reads those things. I think Jody does. And Jody says you have to sign this like now. And I think she goes, okay, and then she signs it. So I don't think that that she knew what it was until it was signed. And Jody's like, hey, that's why Jody calls her. Do you see the message from John or whatever?
Starting point is 00:29:13 And she's like, no, you're officially divorced. And she goes, okay, okay. Yeah, right. Okay. We've been doing this for three years. What do you mean, okay? How about a yay or a woo or like a shot? I don't know, a little more celebrate.
Starting point is 00:29:28 I get that she's probably like, whoa, like it shell shocked a little bit. it's over but at the same time she literally goes okay yeah i don't get it because like lisa's not that calculated she just kind of does things that come to her mind so i don't think this was a move where she you know felt like everybody was against her the night before so now she's like you know what screw it i'm not even going to tell them but i genuinely i think i agree with you honestly i don't think she even read it i think that and look there's something to be said with these long drawn out divorces, you know, you can be somebody like Ashley Darby, who is every fucking episode. Yeah, I understand. There's different things you have to figure out with the kids and all
Starting point is 00:30:09 the money that gets involved with it. I get that. And there's going to be pushback. And you've got meetings. We hear about everything along the way and we get so tired about it. And last season, it was mostly just Lisa complaining about Lenny because Lenny was probably making her life miserable. And that's fair. I think along the very long course of this divorce, she probably signed a million in different documents, it just got arduous at some point, and she didn't realize what the fuck was going on. She doesn't really, I think when you're in the midst of something like that, it's probably hard to see the end of the road.
Starting point is 00:30:38 You know what I mean? Like, this is never going to come. I'm never going to deal. Like, I'm never going to be done with this. And that it just kind of happens. And I think she was a little shell shocked, so I don't think she saw that coming. But I like that she sits up and says everything because then it provides context to the night before. And you might not see it that way, Larsa.
Starting point is 00:30:56 You know, you think you got a penny comment. and your confessional. She's just going to keep talking about Lenny anyway. You've been talking about Marcus for your storyline and it's a guy you dated for like six months. Yeah. Like, let's be very honest. He started a podcast with the guy. You dated him for six months. It's already a weird situation with who he is and who your ex is. But let's not talk about that. You're still talking about Marcus as your storyline. She had a whole ass husband with kids and is going through a divorce. Who was on the show for a while? With MX Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot track side. So being
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Starting point is 00:33:16 Just clap. Just give her a cheers and move on. Don't be so petty because I think in that moment it's like, oh, fuck. There's a reason why she was doing that last night. I can't really get on her case about it. what am I going to do for a storyline now? Am I going to just push back on her now that she's divorced or am I going to have to switch gears and go after somebody else?
Starting point is 00:33:37 I think that's what Larson is thinking. Everybody else is like, thank God. This is great. You're done. And it provides context. Now we understand why you were being weird last night. We're good. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:33:46 And I think everybody's able to move on with Lisa, which is what we want. But I think that's what hung Larsa up. I think she was like, shit. Like that was actually serious. Everybody's going to understand this and they're going to be able to move on. And I give Lee the pass in her mind. Pass isn't even the right term for this.
Starting point is 00:34:02 This is just, it's celebratory. Like, good for you. You're done. And I like that she maintained her cool in asking Larsa. She's like a cheers. No, make the little cheersy poo. No,
Starting point is 00:34:12 nothing. Okay. Didn't make a big deal out of it. And Larsa looks like shit. And she makes that confessional line. And she just looks bad. I thought it was hysterical. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:20 I love that little of pettiness. Yeah. But like in real life. When she's doing that in real time and trying to cheer Larsa. and she's refusing to do it after she just finalized her divorce, everybody else is going to see that. Why is Larsa being so petty? Maybe they'll start to just quietly turn a little bit because even Stephanie was like,
Starting point is 00:34:37 hell yeah, this is great. Yeah, exactly. And so the ball is kind of in Lisa's court now. And Larsa, as she does, deflects. Yep. Hey, what about Alexia and Marisol, Julia? I don't hold it against them. Why, though?
Starting point is 00:34:52 This is a big deal. This is the meanest thing. Like, someone's done this show in a long time. think and Stephanie points out like how nuts that is that's pretty crazy and that's funny because in the beginning we saw Stephanie and Julia getting close right Julie was making an effort to do that we saw Julia Alexia Marisol trying to get close we saw Stephanie trying to figure things out all this is doing is pushing everybody further apart and I don't even think Julia recognizes that that now you just got left out from your your core two that you want to be a part of in Alexia
Starting point is 00:35:22 and Marisol they clearly don't care that much about you on the flip side you've been trying to snuggle up to Stephanie, who is now anti you because of this whole ridiculous thing. So you're starting to find you. And we called this like in episode two, right? Julia's going to be left out on an island. She's not going to have any friends. And she's doing it to herself. And you're watching it kind of transpire.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And if it continues down this road, she's going to have a come to Jesus moment with Alexia Marisol. It is inevitable. And Stephanie's going to be like, fuck you. Now, the only thing that like for cast dynamics, you have to have that. your brain. I mean, we're watching it in O.C. with Jen right now, where she's identifying, okay, do I really want to just, like, be a good friend to somebody like Katie, who's going to fall apart and everybody hates her and then alienate myself? Or do I want to just wash my hands
Starting point is 00:36:12 of it and move on? Because I don't think anybody in this cast, if she were to be upset that Alexia Marisol stayed behind, they wouldn't give her shit if she was upset about it. If she hoist her opinion and said, yeah, it's fucked up, like, whatever, not going to let them ruin my day. They would identify that. They would then move forward and she would probably have more support from the cast. But this like just unbelievable ignorance that she's exhibiting right now is wild. And it's going to alienate yourself. Because you're chasing these friends, you're going to end up on the outs when they burn that bridge and you just treated them like they were so much higher than everybody else on the cast. When you try to go back to an Adriana who still
Starting point is 00:36:50 might accept you back. She will. Seems like that kind of person. But when you go back to a girl, when you go back to the rest of the group who, yeah, you're not that close with, but they can be your friends on the cast. They're going to remember this. They're going to say, you put them up on a pedestal. If any of us did that, you wouldn't have done that. So that's not fair. And Gertie was tight with Julia for a long time.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Did you burn that bridge early in the season? So, yeah, you're going to be left alone. We're watching it happen. It's going to happen. Pay attention, everybody. But we're back in Sevilla. And you see these two enjoying the piece, as they say, which I think is really funny because the way Alexia is,
Starting point is 00:37:24 is talking about it. Like Marisol, yeah, she's not the harbinger of chaos. Like, she is pretty mellow most of the time. She tries to stay out of the drama. So,
Starting point is 00:37:32 like, I get it from her aspect. Mm-hmm. But Alexia is the one that's saying it. It's like, it's nice to just have, like, the peace and quiet. It's like,
Starting point is 00:37:39 you can't act like you don't bring the chaos. Like, you're part of that problem. Marisol can hang her hat on that, but you can. So I thought it's funny how this is getting painted. And you know how they work with each other. You know how Alexia sees things.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Like, she's never in the wrong. But it's just, it's interesting, but not nearly as interesting. And this was so funny because I was writing and I wasn't paying attention. And I hear Marisol face-timing with Richard. I'm like, okay. Richard, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah, it's Richard. I'm like writing down FaceTime with Richard. Old day. I look up, it's fucking Richard Branson. Yep. I was so taken aback. I like, because I was watching it on my phone. I was, you know, I should have been working, but I was watching it on my phone.
Starting point is 00:38:22 and I was locked in like had it right here as soon as he popped up like fucking what who no way Richard fucking Branson sir Richard Branson sir Richard Branson he's incredible that's rich rich that is not like a oh yeah I know him through friends or whatever and we're just going to stay like the idea of going into I guess it's next week or the week after that we'll probably be there for Marisol's you know, I guess wedding gift or whatever it might be. Oh, this is Richard Branson's yacht. This is Richard Branson's house. That would have been sick. That would have been
Starting point is 00:38:57 awesome. Would have been cool. It would have been very on par for the rest of the housewives. Like, oh, we're in this house. It's beautiful. It's owns by. But instead, we not only get that, we get a FaceTime with him agreeing to be on Bravo. FaceTiming Marisol. They're close. They're fucking friends.
Starting point is 00:39:14 And that's cool. I love that. Richard Branson. Like, that's crazy. I will say. not that's right yeah they have that flight that like goes up to the edge of space and comes back down i it's so insane that it was so nonchalant i do think it's funny though because it does look like in the scenes from like later this season or next week whatever that is it looks like all i did was stick them on a cruise which is still like cool but like in my head i was thinking it was like a yacht to like one of the islands like i go do that using this is as a comparison to the way that
Starting point is 00:39:48 Stephanie handles her private jet is very funny and this is like it's just perfect timing you know what you can do on Richard Branson's yacht you can fucking eat you can smoke cigarettes you can do whatever you want you can poop if you want to who cares he doesn't give a shit because he's that rich Stephanie you have to take off your shoes you have to do this which both is fine by me like I understand why Stephanie wants you to take off your shoes while walking into the private jet sure I understand and by the way we've now seen this jet twice they fuck they party on that thing like she's not really it had nightclub lights yeah like she's not really that strict if you think about it she wants to fucking party on that thing which is awesome so
Starting point is 00:40:29 all she's asking is don't be an asshole don't fight on the jet for 22 minutes and take your damn shoes off but when you compare that to uh just smoking a cigarette and taking a poop with rich richard brins and puts things in perspective for little less yeah and it makes marisol look a lot cooler like this is how you and I think that the way and this is how dev describes it and I think it's like Marisol is a very wealth whispers kind of person yeah you know and I really appreciate that about her I love Marisol like I do think that her and Alexia are assholes but I also love Marisol I do think like she's got a big heart in there she just kind of yeah no I've I've I've loved Marisol the cocky thing I think the first season that we were covering it worth in a little bit but it seems like that's all she was bringing to the show And so I was very confused, but this is, what, three seasons in for us covering this? I love Marisol. Yeah, no, she's great. Hi, I'm here to tell you about Good Morning Night Vale.
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