Bros & Shows - All of the Sutton, Kyle just ain't the Same (RHOM Full Recap, RHOSL Full Recap, RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: November 25, 2023

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Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros.

Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, SteelRoy. Russell, joined as always by the one and only Black Friday Magouter. What's up, dude? Gobble, gobble, bitches. Turkey Day's over right into Christmas. It feels weird because it's only like the 24th or something. Yeah.

But I feel like that just gives you an extra week of Christmas time, you know? So let me get this straight. Your anti-Christmas stuff before Thanksgiving, but the second it's over, now we're cool. Darn Tootin. That seems jaded. Why? Because what's the... The holiday's over.

I understand that, but I put up my Christmas. Christmas lights beforehand, you had a problem with it. Two weeks before. One week before. Six weeks before. You were in Christmas mode right after Halloween. There's nothing wrong with being a Christmas remote. I'm confused, I guess.

So the cutoff is literally Thanksgiving Day. So Black Friday, now it's Christmas season. Correct. Do you have B 101 on to listen to Christmas tunes? I did, actually, on the way over here. Yeah. This seems, I don't like this. I don't know what your problem is.

I have a problem with you, honestly. What's your issue? I just fucking told you. Let's hash it out. just did i just did you're not saying anything different look i i i think that what i'm doing is the correct way i honored the holiday of thanksgiving until thanksgiving was over and now i'm on to christmas season okay is that okay with you yeah that's fine that's pretty practical well anyway this is our second time recording today because earlier this afternoon we recorded

a interview with one craig conover from southern charm winter house summer house i'm sure there's other ones in there. A lot more. But it was a great interview. We had a blast with him. That interview will be out on Monday. So you'll be able to listen. You'll be able to watch on YouTube.

But we had a blast with them. We got into some conspiracy theories. We broke out the tinfoil hats. We talked about Shep. We talked about Austin. Page. You name it. We covered it.

Yeah. So pretty much is like nobody's surprise. We are complete boys with Craig. Yep. As everybody predicted. He's a fellow bro now. He even laughed at the idea of him being an original brav bro.

Yeah. Well, I mean, technically, he's more of a brav bro than we are. We're Bravo experts. According to some, we are Bravo experts. Some might even have gone far to say, iconic, not I. Somebody said iconic. Not I, but somebody did. Nope.

Honestly, somebody said iconic, and I could not keep a straight face. And Shooter got it tattooed on his butt cheek. I did. I'm more of a thigh tack kind of guy, I think. Really? Yeah. I've been thinking about getting a tattoo recently. Stop.

Yeah. That's awesome. What are you going to get? I don't know. I've always said that it's got to be something that means something to me. You know, I'm not going to get some dumb ass tattoo that means nothing to me. You're not going to get like a feather or a tree line. I don't know.

I've seen a lot of feathers. You know what you see a lot is the tree line. Why? Lots of people get trees. I don't know. I'm not sure. I guess if you work in the environment or something, maybe you. No, it's pretty much the ones you see a lot are clocks, trees, arrows, quotes.

and uh well the funny thing is what i was thinking of was getting for the anime that i really liked oh really yeah like one of the um the panels from the actual book okay but the funny thing about that is all the ones that i saw online have like in japanese like whatever they're saying in it so it could be mistaken as one of those fake japanese quotes oh like the ones that you see online where it means like general south chicken or something and they're like i want something that says honor because I live a life of honor and it's in Japanese because they're honorable people

I watched this one video and it was hilarious and then yeah they broke it down further and said no no that's actually just says general sales yeah stuff like that it's a risk to get

like a foreign language on your body I will say that unless you know the language then you do whatever the hell you want sure absolutely but for mine because my quote on my ribcage is in pottootomy

like it's the actual language I this is how after my disaster of a first tattoo this is how thorough I am, I emailed the head of language for the Potawatomi tribe for six months before this man got back to me. Refused to get the tattoo until he cleared what it said in perfect Pottawatomy. Why didn't he get back to you quickly?

I don't know. Do you have to do research? No, I just think he was probably like some asshole wants to get a tattoo in our language. I mean that, yeah, objectively speaking, that is kind of an asshole move, but I appreciate the thoroughness. It's not because, like, I even, like, I broke it down from him. I was like, I'm part of the Higbee tribe from the Pottawatomy. citizens of the Pottawatomie Nation located in Oakland.

I was like, I'm really one of you. I think your specific situation is completely fine and completely warranted because it's just you being thorough and making sure you have the right thing. Yeah. The general idea of reaching out to a pathologist, no, not path. Speech is pathology? No, it's a linguistics. I took linguistics in at Ohio State to forego taking a math class.

That's how much they helped me since I was an athlete. You don't like math. Well, they're like, what are you good at? When I got there, you have an academic advisor, and you literally sit with this person as an athlete at Ohio State. They're like, so, what are you good at? I'm like, math and history. Like, what are you bad at? I was like math and science.

Like, all right, cool. And they dumbed down your schedule so that you hit your credits without having to take a math or science. That's really funny. If you've ever heard Steele try to go through how much of a percentage we are through a season, you'll understand. It's just, that doesn't, I'm like math and it. Damn it. history and English, like, great. Like, I'm really, really good.

I was always great at English. I was in, like, honors, all that stuff. But math and science just doesn't click. Yeah, I feel like people's brains are wired that way. You're either really good at math and science or you're really good at history and English. Or you're just dumb and not good at anything, but you're, you might be good at something. I don't know.

Everyone's good at something. Those are the people that get General Sal's tattooed on their bodies. Yeah. Full circle. Full circle. Let's go. But it is our Friday episode. It's coming to you a little bit later because.

of the holiday, so we apologize, but not really because we were in turkey hangovers or comas, but we are going to get to our Rosen Thorne. So why don't you start us off today there, Magoutz? Oh, me? Why don't you start us off? Because I actually am still looking for my thorn. I had it and lost it. All right, no problem. I've got two, and they are from Apple. They're both podcast reviews. I'll start with my thorn. So this one comes from, I'm not supposed to read the name, but it's a three

star out of five. And the title alone is my thorn. And then I'll read it. But it's interesting question mark. Annoying question mark. It goes. I typically like the pod. It's good to get guys perspective on these shows. But lately with the Salt Lake recaps, you guys are so far up Monica's tail. It's making me crazy. I get that her mother is trash. But at least her mom has the excuse that Monica's dad left her high and dry why Monica was little. Now allegedly she's suing laser lab, Angie stole the ring was going to turn state's evidence against JS plus cheated on her hubs

with her brother-in-law. She's fun TV but stop riding her jock. She's not good people. Oh my God. That's fucking incredible. Actually, and we'll get to Salt Lake later, but I do actually have a different opinion of Monica. Yeah, no. And like, look, our opinions change throughout the season with

most people. Like, it's always fluid around here. So these are the funny ones to me when we get reviews where they, like it's a differing opinion. If you are a fan of the show, we talked about this with Craig earlier. If you're a fan of the show and you leave a less than five-star review because you differ in opinions, but you still enjoy the show, you are effectively, what's the word, affecting us in a negative way? Effectively affecting us. You're effectively affecting us. You use both words. How you like me now,

English. That English. There we go. I've actually got a couple different ways to go on this one. My first one's a thorn of a thorn. Wait a minute. I didn't have a rose. Am I jumping the gun?

You're jumping my guns, bro. I'm sorry, I'll stay off your guns, pal. Oh, I know. My rose goes, and this is from AMHB 2010. And she says, hubby not happy. Tried for years to get my husband hooked on Bravo, so I'd have a guy's perspective on these shows. Well, I don't need it anymore.

after finding the bros. They are funny, and their perspective is always interesting. Love their recaps, and I love Steele's voice, which is a plus. You know, without laughing. Which is a plus because I know it irritates my husband every time I say it. By the way, I gave Zach another chance after listening to the bros. Great follow-up there. Wow.

See, that's really funny because didn't we have one like two weeks ago? That said, I gave you guys another chance because of Zach. Wow. Yeah, full circle once again. But I love the fact that she says to her husband, I love Steele's voice, and it makes him mad. It would make me mad, too. I mean, I'm mad.

I'm talking to your husband now. You see what you did? You refuse to watch Bravo with her. You send her our way. This is your fault. Got to listen to Steele's voice. You listen to me now. I hope you listen to this.

And hey, watch Bravo with your wife. Then she won't listen to my voice as much. That's a good point. Well, she'll still listen. Let's not be wrong about that. Maybe that guy will start to like your voice too. Yeah. Right?

Sure. Yeah, why not? All right. Watch bravo with your wife, you butthole. All right, let me go. I've got a lot of different paths here. I'm going to start with a thorn-thorn, which is a real thorn. Then we got a rosy-thorn?

No, there is a rosy thorn somewhere in the middle. All right. Thorn-thorn. Somebody on YouTube told me to stop saying that Juan and Robin's relationship is an arrangement. They did? No. Yeah, absolutely not. I won't.

No. Can't make me. What a weird, okay. Yeah, don't tell me what to do. Yeah, first of all, don't do that because then he's, even if he's going to go way further the other way. It's going to go so far that way. You think I have any credibility? I'm going to, I will take this podcast

down with me just as a bit. Just because he thinks it's funny. Yes. Yeah. I probably do that already. Into a rosy thorn. There's a guy on Twitter. His name's Lou Dogg. Oh, I've seen Lou. And Lou, Lou was going through it on Monday night for the Chiefs

Eagles game. Yes, Lou Dogg has talked shit to us before about the Braves and the Chiefs. Which, you know, Now, I'm just going to come out and say it. Cheer for the same fucking city, for the love of God, people. I don't understand cross cities. I guess, like, maybe if you live in a town that doesn't have pro sports, you want to just kind of branch out, but at least go to the same city. Yeah, stay local.

Like, Braves, Chiefs fans don't really make any sense to me unless you're just, hey, a frontrunner because the Braves won the World Series in 2018 and the Chiefs have won two Super Bowls in the last five years. That sounds like a front runner to me, Lou Dog. Bandwagon. But the rosy part of that is he, he was. was sending us all these chiefs gifts and talking about holding penalties and hoping that we're happy it made me happy well the funniest part is his tone early on was like ha we got you we got you again eagles and then as the game started to turn he started to keep posting and it it slowly got sad because the chiefs lost birds nine and one suck it chiefs suck it chiefs but my rose rose rose

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But that's the behavior that we want. Yes. None of this is that fucking series. No, we're just making fun of things, honestly. As long as we're not making fun of you directly, unless you're in the royal family, like if, well, you know, Prince Andrew wants to come out. and say, hey, the bros shouldn't be talking about that.

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But we are starting off with... Miami. And we are back in the southernmost tip of the United States with our ladies of Miami for what's been a pretty solid season. Is it the southernmost tip of the United States? Continental. The continental, U.S., yes. Okay, you're that guy? Key West, I think.

That's really annoying. That's, okay. I guess you're right, but that's, you're like the guy when it's like 1.30 in the morning. Actually, I think Hawaii's more southern than that, too. That's why I said, I agreed with you, the continental U.S. This is what I'm saying. You're that guy when it's 1.30 in the morning and someone goes, oh, see you tomorrow. They're like, actually, that's today.

That's you. No, I won't do that because I've got anxiety about staying up too late, and that doesn't want to make me think about tomorrow. Actually, it's today. No, I'm more like, actually. Christmas season doesn't start until after Thanksgiving. Yeah, you're that guy. You're just that guy.

But anyway, we are back with the southernmost tip of the continental United States. There we go. Just the tip. And we have a charity basketball game for Make a Wish, Larsa, and Marcus are putting it on. But we start out with Nicole and they're taking a little basketball lesson. And the bank's open for Nicole. Oh, the bank's open. She's hitting bank shots all day.

and they're talking about baby talk baby number two and there are moments with these two where I'm like you are too normal for this crew I fully understand that you know what I mean just for this crew it's just for like bravo TV in general get along too well their relationship is too strong they have a good head on their shoulders like even the approach of like the marriage and the wedding they're like yeah you know what let's just knock baby number two out first then we can focus on it's so pragmatic and like normal that I'm like you guys and like I fully believe that they agree with all of that thing too because it's one of those things that we see it all over the place not just Bravo somebody is has a strong opinion about waiting to get married because they've

got kids coming on and the other one doesn't really agree but they just kind of go along the ride they are like mutually agreeing to everything it's insane and there's no cracks anywhere and the funny I love these scenes though when you get a third party like the basketball instructor and they're making sex jokes oh yeah because I want to be in their head where, like, what they're thinking. It's like, she handles balls all the time. And he looks at the guy. Trying to recruit us or? What do you want him to do there?

Be like, hell yeah. And like, give you knucks or like. She sure does. Yeah, I bet she does. Like, high five. I don't know. How do you react to that? I have no idea. Honestly, you're the personal trainer. You ever trained couples and they start making some jokes? No. No, I haven't run into that yet. But if I do, I'll talk about it here with you. Thank God. It's all we need. the next scene we get the opera lesson and I got to give it to Julia I appreciate the commitment to this because first of all the dude that was there for the lessons fantastic like that's what I did you think about a suit it's Miami man yeah shorts the short suit in Miami I feel like is a move I think I it's funny because I actually saw oh we saw a guy in L.A you may have not seen him there was a guy who walked in with like the no I saw it he had a suit top with shorts on Shorts on. The shorts were short shorts.

Oh, it was really weird. Maybe it's more of just like an L.A., Miami, fat. If you're in like a fashiony area, maybe it's like a New York City thing, too. Yeah, it could be. I didn't care for it. The reason I couldn't care for it was because it matched the suit top. So it looked like he went and took his suit pants somewhere and got them cut off and hemmed. Oh, you don't like it because it matched.

Yeah. Oh, so you'd be cool if it was. If you've worn like normal, like, khaki shorts with it. But that's not the same thing. That's not a short suit. The short suit is what bothered me, yes. Hypothetically speaking, if we had a show in New York City at the end of January next year, hypothetically speaking, wink, wink. 2024, yeah.

2024, end of January, like the last week of January. It could be a good year for the boys. Somewhere like Times Square, you know, just spitballing. Just spitballing. Just spitballing. Throwing things out there. If we were to do that, would you wear a short suit with me? No.

January, it's cold as shit. Okay, that's fair. A fucking winter cyclone going to roll through there And we're going to look like idiots with short suits on Okay, that's fair But if it's not that, can we wear short suits at some point? Yeah, okay, yeah. After you get your legs are tan, you know?

What does you get your thigh tattoo? Yeah, a little thigh tat. A little thigh tat. I gotta get a short, real short. Oh, you got to get on my level. I'm seven inch in seam. I actually dropped down an inch every summer. I went to six inches this past summer and I'm going to five next year.

I've done five. It gets a little short. Five gets it. When you're sitting down especially, you got to wear some compression shorts. Yeah, I don't want the boys hanging out. Yeah, nobody wants the boys hanging out. But the next scene, wow, what a tangent. We get Alexia and her boys.

Unfortunate timing. But Alexia and her boys, and they're at Frankie's oxygen chamber therapy. And I love Frankie. He just seems like every time I see him on the screen, he brightens my day. Yeah, he has such an incredible attitude. He really does. And the fact that he fell asleep in there while they were doing it. Just like, he's just relaxed

and having a good time. But I feel like that goes to show us what we talk about with Alexia all the time. When we get her in these situations where it's her with her family, I'm not even putting Todd into this because Todd's an asshole. When Alexia is with her boys, she seems so much more relaxed. And they're relaxed around her. We get so much out of them. There's no chaotic energy that we're used to seeing with

Alexia. just a nice scene and you can tell frankie is so relaxed that he just fell asleep yep he just feels so good and safe he just fell asleep that's great yeah but i mean those scenes nothing of note really happened here it's just i like to point him out because alexia gets on my nerves but it's a good reminder of how much she has to deal with like i can't imagine when they showed the pictures of frankie as a kid you know before the accident it's like you forget that he hasn't always been this way and i cannot imagine the strain and how difficult that is on the family overall and alexia personally and her brother or sorry her other son like i i've i've had my opinions on him just because he seems

you know a little rough not on the show enough for us not really care about an opinion and i don't want to just be negative for the sake of being no and i'm not that's more what i'm to my point is like i know we did that last year right like just i guess seeing this it's a reminder like this family's been through a shit ton and you know to be constantly reminded because you have to take frankie to therapy you got to help frankie out out like those reminders of what happened it has to be really difficult so it was good for me to see it just a reminder but i want to get to the sprinter van so they take a sprinter van to the make a wish basketball charity thing which immediately anytime i hear sprinter van i'm like it's going

to turn bad these never turn out well right for better or worse i mean it's good tv but i don't know Why didn't even like a small confined space for a little too long? Or two hour. What's the, what do you think of? I don't even think it was two hours. No, it was. They said it was a two hour drive to the place. But what do you think the limit is for a non-confrontational sprinter van time-wise?

Seven minutes. Well, no, there were nine minutes. At nine minutes, somebody had to get off to go to the, well, it was Marcus that actually had to get off to go to the bathroom. That's so insane to me. Adriana was already farting and the things got weird within nine minutes. So I'm going to say seven minutes. All right. Well, I'm going to go.

Seven-minute ditch. I'm going to go eight. Okay. eight minutes but as you just said they're on the bus and adrian announces to the entire group i had corn today so i'm very flatulent i didn't know corn made you fart i don't think it does i didn't think that it does but she says that i had corn i'm going to fart on the bus which is gross like you shouldn't you should never announce that don't do your best to hold it in and if one squeaks out and you got to take it and like bite the bullet me like i'm so sorry guys i my stomach and this is how you do it

If it squeaks out, you say, I'm so sorry, my stomach's been a little iffy. I apologize, but that was me. And that's parting etiquette by Steel Russell. Yeah. Or you just don't say anything, and you look around and go, oh, my God. No, you don't do the smelted delta thing. You got to keep your mouth shut. You just stare at the floor.

Until somebody accuses you and then you just kind of look around. And then you cause a huge scene. So it's not me. But I thought it was interesting that everybody on the bus is like, I'm not going to talk about Gertie's illness. And I'm not going to talk about Gertie's illness. And it's so uncomfortable knowing that everybody knows. Gertie doesn't know that they know. And Larsa's sitting in the back, like the evil mastermind, even though she's not. But she's told everybody. I can't get over how disgusting that is. She's told everybody and you can tell, she's not going to say a word about it.

She already told everybody and somebody else is going to end up spilling the beans and it'll eventually get back to her. But this is the thing about Larsa. If you felt open enough to tell everybody about what's going on with Gertie behind her back after you were told not to you should also feel open enough to announce it again on the van. That's a good point. Instead, she just sits there with a smirk on her

face in the back of the van and doesn't say a word while everybody else is struggling with the idea that they're now in a van with Gertie knowing what's going on and nobody wants to speak up. Larson is not going to be the one to speak up because she just put these plans into motion and I just cannot part of me can't wait to see what she does when she gets

called out but at the same time I know I'm going to be so angry. She's going to flip it that like it's somehow not her fault. Now she's the victim. What do you want me to do? You didn't feel comfortable telling them. So I felt like I needed to because you need support. She's going to gas like Gertie, the person with cancer.

Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be brutal. Yeah, she's terrible. But as they're in the bathroom. We need to go through two fucking episodes with Larson. I know. She popped up in Beverly Hills. Damn it.

But they are in the bathroom and understandably so people are talking shit about Adriana farting. And they're not even really talking shit. They're just highlighting. what she said like yeah i can't believe she's on this bus farting that's gross yeah anybody would do that in front of her behind closed doors if you announced that to the group you have put a target on your back that you're the farder of the group people are going to say things because that's gross and it's marisol too and marisol could have gone so many different ways with that because she

fucking hates your guts and all she said was you're farting on the bus which is true so we get a confessional of her and she's like on like a mic on the outside of the scene and she's so upset like they're talking shit they're talking behind my back again and she gets on the bus with like a chip on her shoulder and shit pops off because she has an attitude by the way i agree with marisol and i'd never thought i would say that no i would do the same exact the only difference is the minute she said it on the bus i would be like that's fucking disgusting don't do that yes go take an uber you're not sitting on the bus with this farting the whole time yeah exactly but we need to discuss before we get into the full sprinter band like the todd talk and all that shit

we got poop talk again and pee talk and a reminder and this is just proof I called it three weeks ago I said Todd's got a pee fetish yep and no kinkshame in here live your life but she's like she shows a picture of that dual toilet which everyone's seen the meme and she's like I would love to get this because like I love pooping and peeing in front of Todd and Todd loves it's disgusting it's foul but like only furthering there's look When it comes down to it, okay, when you really break this down, Alexia, you are confirming that your husband likes golden showers because there's now too much evidence. Yep. We have too much evidence on TV. Honestly, I'm moving past golden showers. I think there might be more there. I don't want to say that one. A little poop plank.

Nope, nope, nope. I'm sticking with the golden showers. Yeah. Because I can live, I can sleep at night with that. I think that's the least of our worries right now. Look, hey, hey. If Todd was in that Springer band, he'd be sick. sniffing around

when Adrian is farting. Ew, bro. I like this fan. I hate it. I hate it. Todd, I thought you had a problem with Adriana. Love her now.

What's that? Gross. Anyway, we're talking about Todd and the person in the group that was allegedly talking shit that comes out that it was Adriana. Now, this is confusing because we thought that Adriana

was lying about the when she was leaving the building. She's like, yeah, I asked Todd, you know, is it a problem with the marriage, whatever? You have time to get your marriage back on track, and he said, you hit it on the nose. Lisa confirms. Yep. So now we have confirmation that that actually transpired, which does make the comments weird that he's putting the blame on Adriana.

Now it's confusing. I mean, bottom line, Todd sucks. But I'm confused. I'm super confused. And if you're going to suck and we're going to have to call out your behavior for sucking, at least give us something to point something out. Yeah. I don't know where the hell to go with this. And I do think that Lisa could have spoken up a little bit more,

but I feel like when it comes down to Adriana versus, whether it's Marisol or Alexia, nobody ever wants to get into the middle of that. And I do understand that. Sure. Kind of want to steer clear. But you were there with Adriana. You can step up and say it. I mean, it was a Todd impression, right?

It was. Or an expression is what she's. I think she said impression. Not impression. Yeah. Yeah. No, she said it. If she said impression, she met expression.

Yes, exactly. And I was wondering why. You don't know Todd's expressions. You don't know Todd's expressions. And, like, she gets pissed about it. That is a Todd expression. It is a Todd expression. And, like, but I think that Alexia is correct in saying, you're just jealous of what I have.

And you point to material things and you point to this, you point to that, whatever. At the end of the day, Adriana is lonely. She is angry at her friends for having a life that she once had. And I think that it projects itself on her insecurities when she's talking to the rest of the group. And I think it's. it's not doing her any favors do i have a little bit of sympathy like the the ever most slight amount like the iota like i feel bad slightly but she puts herself in these situations she cannot figure out when to talk and when not to talk like she always makes the worst

times to like take up a vendetta against somebody and 90% of the time it's so unfounded unnecessary and then she wonders why the group turns on her and then when she talks to somebody else that wasn't present, the story is always different than what actually happened. And that's what drives me crazy. Yeah, it drives me insane. And I agree to the extent of mostly it's just tough to watch people gang up on one person. Sure. However, Adriana puts yourself in that position all the time. She did not need to come back into the bus, talk about people talking about her farting when you're the one who brought it up. That's what kind of kickstarted everything. Even what you're saying about Todd is true, you could keep your mouth shut because you're

You know, one, nobody's going to step up to defend you. Lisa was there. She didn't say a word until she absolutely had to. And two, Marisol and Alexia get off on going after you. Yeah. Especially in an environment like this where everybody's just sitting on a sprinter bag. Don't give them ammo. Don't give them any ammo.

Just keep your mouth shut. And she goes and immediately just starts crying to Julia every single time it happens because Julie's the only one who has compassion for her, which is okay because we saw that in the scene with the opera singer. Adriana was fine in that scene because her and Julia are actually friends. She wasn't that annoying. She's a pretty good piano player, it looks like. So you can get that version of Adriana.

Maybe the rest of them will kind of back off, but she sticks her foot in her mouth all the time and then says, wo is me. Like, you started it. You started it. And then talking to Julia, she changes the story entirely,

says that Alexia was the one causing the scene, says that they're coming after her. She paints it like she's the victim again. It's like, you incited this. This is your fault. And then takes it to the level of, we are not inviting Alexia or Marisol to Martinez,

has, like, beat cancer party, which is crazy. It's crazy. It's like, look, you might not get along with them, but those guys do have a friendship with them. And this is about Martina. This is about the fact that she beat two types of cancer. Two, get off of, like, literally get off your high horse here. Like, I don't care if they hurt your fucking feelings.

This is deeper than that. It's also not really your place. You should let Julia do that. If Julia feels compelled to not invite them to the party because of what they did to your friend or to Adriana, then that's okay because you know what, that's Julia's choice. You don't get to dictate that by saying,

well, I don't really want Marisol here. Okay, then have the party somewhere else. Correct. You offered to have the party here because you want to be in control and for all the reasons this deal just said about talking about how Adriana is very lonely and she just wants things to do

in her life and I get all of that. But you can't put yourself in a position of power, if you will, just so you can say, oh, I don't want Alexia Marisol here. That's exactly what she did. and we can all see you through that. Yep.

And we get to the game. It went about as well as I thought of. Yeah. And that first guy had a pretty good jumper. I don't know who that was. The one dude was rain and threes. Yeah. No, I'm not talking about the rest of the play.

Yeah, the rest of the players are at play. There's a reason why the housewives started on the bench. And there's a reason they only played a total of five minutes collectively and scored one point, which was Julia, actually. But after the game, they get to the clubhouse and they're singing, happy birthday to Alexia. It's so funny to me. Adriana like leaves the room she's like got her back turned like fixing her hair like I'm tired of

this shit and whatever she goes up to Anthony and she's like you have silent luxury and I love anthony's reactions because you can tell he's like Jesus Christ like I don't want to do this shut up he's like now you're going to see loud luxury and he's like huh like it's such an off-putting lazy I don't know like I'm okay with Adriana's actions in the sense that she wanted to remove herself from Alexia's happy birthday thing because you know what if I don't like somebody yeah I'm not going to go sing happy birthday to them and see them get get a gift, but she wanted to come back in to prove her point that Alexia is with Todd so that she can get fancy things.

Once you start praying on somebody else's downfall to, like, go into your theory while also trying to strike up a conversation with Anthony who doesn't like Todd, but Anthony's a sensible enough guy that he's just going to steer clear of Todd. That's the thing. He'll be cordial with him and move on because he's a fucking normal person. He got a nine-minute apology video, so he's cool now. Yeah. What was it original?

Was it six? I thought it was nine minutes. I just hope it keeps going up. Let's just keep talking about it. 20-minute apology video. But once you start recruiting people into hate on somebody else, which is what Adriana does all the time, the only person who ever falls for it is Julia,

and I feel bad about Julia because she's just a kind soul. Yeah. You can't go over to Anthony and try to pull him in. You're going to be able to see this. This is my theory on what this is. He's not going to agree with you. You know what that turns into down the road? Adrian is going to be like, I was talking to Anthony about the same thing in the clubhouse.

He said the same thing. He agreed with me. It's like, no, he didn't. He didn't even awkward laugh. Look, I've said this before about a lot of people that I don't like. I'm going to do this for one time for people that I do like. Nicole and Anthony, get the fuck off the screen. Yeah, get away from these people.

Get off this TV show. Get away from all of these people or you guys are going to be very sad. I agree. That's really funny. But, I mean, other than that, like, the only thing that I know we're going to hear about. And as soon as it happened, I was like, fuck. when Adriana eats shit on the floor and falls, I was like, this is going to turn into a four week long injury.

My wrist hurts, my ankle hurts. I think Kiki actually did spring her ankle. Kiki, yeah. She was not. She was planning hard. She wasn't complaining. Right. And she's not one that's going to bring it up 15 fucking times.

Adriana is going to be like, even Marisol fucking bit it. And she got out. She's like, ow, like brushed it off. She talked about it at a confession. She's like, yeah, I hit my head too, but, you know, whatever. We're going to hear about this injury. She's going to show up at the reunion with like a body injury report.

Yeah, with a neck brace in a wheelchair like Mike the situation and she's going to come in with a whole bodily injury report that she got from some doctor that she paid and hand it over to Andy in some big bedazzled folder or whatever. Actually. I think that's what's going to happen. You guys were laughing at me falling on the court. This is what happened.

I think that's a really good, really good presumption. Assumption. What is the word? neither of those prediction prediction words are hard but that takes us on to Roslick and this is an interesting episode

and we're getting more Monica a lot more Monica and I'm curious how this is going to shift like our opinion on her and obviously you're doing your best to live in a vacuum and keep the outside noise outside Yeah, I'm not

My feelings towards Monica have changed Okay And from this episode Adding into all of the other things that have popped off In the actual show so far Okay But I'm still getting to the same conclusion What's that?

That I don't really trust Monica And I think she's sneaky and I don't like her Oh wow That is it? That's a pretty big shift But let's start off with Heather She's facetabbing her daughter And she's talking about a luncheon that she wants to have Mrs. Post book reading, so she wants to keep this, it's kind of a

celebration of the book reading, I think, is what she frames it as. And she wants to do it Mormon-themed. And all I can think about with Heather, honestly, and I'm sure it's a really difficult thing to come to terms with or to change how you live, she misses being a Mormon a lot. I think she does. And I think she said that too. And I think that she's kind of conveyed that. And we talk about how Heather has these intentions, but she just goes about it the wrong way all the time. But there are, we get bits and pieces of it when she talks to Lisa about Jack going on a mission trip. And you know that she's knowledgeable about how everything works. Sure. And a lot of the things that she talks about with the Mormon church, she says sort of happily. Yeah. Like she has good

memories of being in the church. I think she feels so scorned because of how it all ended. Sure. But that's still, you know, her childhood. That's still what she was used to growing up. And when She looks back. She looks back fondly on most of it. I don't know if it's most of it. Maybe not most of it. She looks back fondly on parts of it. Yeah.

And look, I think that a lot of it has to do with her being away from the church for a long enough time that she's slowly starting to realize a lot of the aspects of the church are just not healthy. Yeah. And she's now thankful for that. Sure. But something like this where, you know, you're wearing a bonnet and turning milk into butter. It's like a fun, playful thing.

And maybe she did that when she was younger and she looks back on that fondly. So I think she misses the community of it all. I think that she misses. being included in the things that her family and her friends are doing. But I don't think that she would change the thing. No, no, no, no. I don't either. I just think it's interesting that everything has to be Mormon-themed with her when she is the quote-unquote bad Mormon.

But we move on from there. We get Monica with her daughter, and her daughter's going to prom. This scene to me was produced, not by production, but by Monica. And I think that she told her daughter to say the thing about the photo albums. I think that she had the photo albums at the ready to break them out. And I think that it's interesting when you compare Monica to Linda. And no, I don't think that Monica's as bad as Linda. However, you're going to learn certain things from your parents.

You're going to learn how to pull on some heartstrings. You're going to play it up for the show. You're now playing the game, but you're overdoing it, especially given the things that are coming out now, it calls into question a lot. Because you break out this photo album of you at the prom, you growing up, all that stuff, and you talk about how Linda ripped out the pages of your dad

and got rid of everything and burned it, cut it up, whatever. Then, out of left field, you pull out this other photo. The sentiment is very sweet, sure, absolutely. But you pull out a photo album in which you have taken all of your daughter's baby pictures, put them in there, you and her, pictures of you younger, all that stuff. And then you took the time to add her biological father. Yes. Great. I understand what you're saying.

Your biological father was kind of ripped out from under you. You weren't allowed to see the pictures of him. You don't know what he looks like, all those things. you don't want her to have to go through that same thing. That's fine. That's a sweet sentiment, like I said. However, is this the time and place to do that on national TV to put your daughter in the limelight to garner sympathy from us, the audience? I don't know.

I think that what we're getting right now is just a late, sort of like a later scene of what we expected a newbie to do in the beginning. You know what I mean? Like with Angie's forced ass conversations with her kids and with Sean at home that we pointed out over and over. we don't need this anymore because she sucks at it. Yeah. I don't think the Monica sucks at this. I think you can look at it two ways. I think that I'm not even saying that she's doing this to garner any sympathy.

I feel like you either side with Monica on her family aspect or you don't. You either look at it like she's playing it up for the cameras and she's trying to get sympathy from the viewers with her situation with her mom. Or you look at it and say she has a fucked up situation pretty much across the board with all family members. and she's just trying to do right by her daughter. I actually thought that this scene was kind of nice. This is not where I started to lose, Monica. This, so for me, both can be true. I think so, yeah.

Okay, so, like, I'm not saying it's a bad scene. I'm not saying that it was inappropriate. I'm saying I do think she used it to her advantage. Yep. That does not mean it's not a touching scene. It does not mean that it affected her daughter in a positive way. That's where it's like this weird middle ground. Like, I get what you're doing.

It's a sweet sentiment, like I've said 15 times. I get that part of it. I guess for me, it's just more so. it's treading that line for me where it's like all right when it comes to this close personal stuff involving your children and having your kid on TV to discuss it and your kid get worked up to the point of tears yeah we want to see this stuff yeah we want to peek behind the curtain of like what goes on in your house and see you be vulnerable but for me it treads the line of opportunistic and I don't love that so that's why I'm right I don't think that it was completely nefarious but at the same time I'm like I wasn't the right Oh, you know what? I mean, I was chalking it up originally to a, this is just a typical newbie housewife scene where they're trying to show, okay, you know, this is my family life and I'm a really good mom. Here's a scene about me being a really good mom and being, you know, objective to everything that's happened in my child's life and showing you and showing you this is how close my daughter and I are and this is what we can share and this is really nice and this is how you can get to know me. However, usually we do get that in the first and second episode. I just thought, thought, you know what, this is kind of late for something like that, but I guess it makes sense. She just never got around to doing it. Yeah, no, I'm kind of leaning the other way.

I'm leaning on the side of, why is this happening now? Why is she doing this now? And it could be a conscious effort, which we talk about all the time. Monica might understand how the season is going for her. And even though she is a newbie, she might already have that in the back of her mind, saying, maybe people aren't going to really love the whole me and my mom dynamic. Maybe they're not going to really love me going after Lisa and being very childish. of my insults, let me have this moment to show I am a really good mom.

Well, if you play it that way, now she's hitting all the facets of being a housewife. She is important. And also rewarded. Did you see the reunion seating chart? Oh, yeah. She's chair one. Well, so is Heather. So I think that's more recency bias for what's going on.

For sure. It could be. But at the same time, you have to put up a decent season to be chair one. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, it has. Like, look, you might hate her. You might think that we're stupid for talking about the way. have up till this point you cannot deny that she is pushing this show forward she's very good

for tv she's great for tv so moving on from that we get sean and angie on a date night angie if i could physically hand her an award for like most remarkable comeback in housewives history i would she seems so more comfortable she's so more comfortable so i i was i was chewing you ever chew on the inside of your cheek totally yeah i was doing she's so more comfortable than we've seen her in the past she's starting to open up it doesn't seem forced anymore at times like she's she still has her moments but overall I think she's gotten past this awkward phase of trying to do too much right and she's letting us in which is all we need it and Sean is doing nothing Sean is a tough watch he is a guy but you know what he fits right it's so funny he fits right in with the rest

of the husbands except now we're getting more out of set weird yeah we are getting more out of set but that's almost because of the podcast so it's like forced hanging on by a thread it's okay Oh, I thought you were just saying that, but yeah, the podcast is named that. Nice. But they're sitting down at dinner, and it is awkward as shit. And I don't think that that was production. I think they sat there in silence until the drinks came out. And we get a Mead Rare Plus order.

We don't get those a lot. What is? I was going to ask you. That means that Medium Rare Plus is like, I want it medium rare, but lean further on the rare side. Okay. I'd rather it more rare. And that's like an official, you can do that? Yeah, no, it's a thing.

Okay. It's like, have you heard of like blue rare? Yeah. Yeah. So like it goes blue rare, rare, rare, medium rare plus, medium, medium, medium, so on and so forth. I'm going to try that out next time. Yeah, go for it. But next time I have you cook a steak for me.

Yeah, exactly. But this is their first date in years. And the way that they're talking and I think that she almost let it slip a couple of times, I don't think they've had sex in a couple of years. Yeah, I don't think so either. I'm trying to figure out their dynamic, honestly. I can't tell. It's hard to pin down, man.

I was thinking maybe Sean is kind of pissed off at Angie for being on this show and he doesn't really want their lives under a microscope. But see, if that's the case for me, now I'm just jumping to the rumors again. I'm like, all right, well, do you want this? Yeah, but I think that's, I think that's also why. He doesn't want their life under a microscope because there is more there. He doesn't, I mean, one, he doesn't seem like the type of guy that wants to overly share anything. No, he doesn't.

Just in general. But he, he like, high-fived him when he got in the house after being at this, quote, salon and then left the dad and Angie to eat a lot. Yeah. There's too much going on here to ignore to just chalk up as he's a boring dude. He does not want to share like his willingness to not share on camera

is wild to watch and it's not the typical, okay, you just have no personality, but it seems like there's way more there whether he just hates Angie and doesn't like their life together. I think that's it. I don't know. I kind of got some of that but that's the problem is I got a little bit of that

I got a little bit of he shutting down because he doesn't want to talk more so that there isn't more information that's coming out about him. And there's a little bit of maybe he's trying to hide the rumors. There's so many different facets to watching a fucking show like this. We have to watch these shows like this. But I can't put my thumb on it. I have no idea. I have the same exact thought process.

I will say, regardless of all that, watching them have the conversation, Angie breaks down a little bit and she's crying. It's just like they're two ships passing in the night. They have their daughter. That schedule's crazy for them. You know, she's got her shit going on. He's got the salon and all that nonsense going on. So, yeah, their life, they have kind of grown apart. And they're trying to discuss how to find a way back.

And to Sean's credit in this moment, he's like, we need to make time. It's time we made time for us. Like, we need to refocus this. And could it be for the cameras? Maybe. But overall, to see them get to a point where they're at least both recognizing the elephant in the room. Like, hey, there's a disconnect here. We need to figure out a way to navigate back to each other.

Yeah. Or the sadder part of it, maybe we've grown apart and maybe this isn't. Yeah, it could be that. But, like, why every time, we've seen for, you know, the last year, we've seen a lot of these types of scenes where it's somebody not, like a marriage is kind of, maybe not falling apart, but obviously there's not a lot of intimacy going on there. Why does it always seem like the husband just doesn't give a fuck? I don't know, but it could be a lot of things.

Like, you try to put yourself in that situation. Like, there's no passion. There's nothing at all there that shows. to me that these husbands are even trying to figure it out. They just seem like duds and they're completely dumb with it. They can't be bothered with their wives' emotions in this moment. It's like, this is a real fucking

thing that's affecting your life. Show us a little something, dude. Don't just sit there with your arms crossed the entire time. Like Justin did it with Whitney. We saw it and I love, look, I love Pabbitt, but he did it with Jessel. There's just nothing there. Like, they're not acknowledging, they're acknowledging the problem,

but it doesn't seem real to me. It just seems kind of fake like they don't give a shit. Do you want my actual theory? Sure. So I genuinely think that a lot of times when these shows start, or even if they're not on the show, when these relationships start, I think that a lot of these women started out as, you know, a housewife to a wealthier person. Okay. I think along the road, especially being involved in Bravo and they're seeing other women start their businesses, they're starting podcasts, they're launching products, they're launching all these different things and they're all trying to be successful. and stand on their own ground, which is amazing. And a lot of them have been very successful at that

and have launched some incredible businesses. I hate to give her any props, but look at Bethany Frankel with Skinny Girl Margaritas. This is a platform in which women can go on and make a name for themselves and start some pretty incredible businesses. And that's awesome. And I think that when we are able to check into these marriages

and see what's going on further down the road, we're five, 10, 15 years into these marriages, I think what we're seeing is these women becoming more independent. And I think we're seeing them have their own businesses, have their own lives. They're no longer leaning on their husband's wealth and trying to live off of them. They want to stand alone. And I think that's an incredible thing. But I think that these husbands have a hard time processing that.

And I think that their defense mechanism is to shut down because I don't know this person. Right. We see it with Whitney and Justin. Whitney has two businesses now. She's trying to do her own thing. Justin's used to having the mom at home, the home-cooked dinner, wife on call. Now he's having a hard time transitioning into, okay, well, now we're on the same page here. We're on the same level.

I don't know how to do this because this is not the person that I married. And like Whitney says, sometimes people grow apart. And I think that a lot of these husbands that have a lot of money, when they see their wives start to better themselves, I don't think that they're not rooting for them. I think that feels like they're not rooting for them. I understand that. And maybe not. but I think that when they see them come out the other side and they have their business, they have success,

they have financial independence. I think they're left with this big question mark of like, who are you now? I don't know this person because I haven't taken the time to get to know you along this road. Yeah. You've been on because you've been leading on your friends and business partners or whatever.

So now I'm at a point where it's like, what the fuck do I do? This isn't the person I married, which isn't a negative thing on their part because these women are improving themselves, but the men are left with their thumb in their butt. Like, I don't know what to do now. You think it's a generational thing or do you think it's a little bit of a Mormon church thing?

No, I think it's definitely a generational. But I think this spans different franchises as well. No, it does. Yeah. But you look in a different one, like a more positive one, Heather Dubrow and Terry. And Terry's obviously makes a ton of money from doing plastic surgery, but she's still able to focus on her own thing. And Terry's very supportive of her. And you see their relationship flourishes.

They are happy together. It's funny. I think it's just because we see so much of the other than we do of Terry. sure we see so much more of that so it's just so hard to put my minds in that kind of thinking where it's like you should be happy you should be excited you should be supportive you should be ecstatic because it means okay you know what it's not all on me like somebody like Justin who was fucking unemployed because of his non-compete and he was excited to go back to work and he was just laying on the couch for like days on end he should be excited that his wife is making money instead he's like I feel less than a man that's got to be some like generational bullshit that I'll just probably never be able to understand but I don't like it That's the problem. That's my theory on... I think it's a really good theory. I think it's a really good theory,

but I'll tell you what. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. Look at me. I don't like it. But the next thing I want to talk about,

we get Angie and Whitney at dinner. And why I want to talk about this is because these two are going to connect on this because they're both in a similar spot. Yeah. As we've seen with Justin already, and we're going to get to the podcast shortly after this, there's a huge disconnect between these two.

And we've talked about it in the past. We've heard Whitney. talk about it. I actually appreciate her being so open with everything now because it's easier to decipher somebody that's kind of hard to understand a lot of the time. Yes, she is. So it's helpful that she's just talking about it. But they both resonate when Angie's like, yeah, we sat down at dinner and I didn't know what to say. And Whitney's just nodding. She's like, yep, the awkward silence. Yep, totally. I know what that's like. We saw that with Whitney and Justin sitting down. They didn't talk for the first 30 minutes because they were waiting on their drinks. Yeah, but we find out

that for their anniversary, they went away together, Whitney and Justin, and in that moment, it was so awkward while they got to the house or whatever. They literally had a conversation in which, should we continue this? Is this going to work? And that is a big bombshell because obviously we're thinking that at home, right? Like, it's just going to work out, it's going to pan out. We don't know. But this is confirmation from her.

And then she furthers it by saying it's hard being monogamous. And I'm like, whoa, we just touched on full. different things. Yeah, this is all out. Yeah, like, you're really in a tough place, especially if you're questioning if you can stay faithful, you're questioning if you should still do this. To me, honestly, and I don't root, I hope they can figure it out for the kids' sake, for their sake, I never root against the marriage. I think that's fucked up. To me, the writing's on the wall. Yeah, I mean, the writing's definitely on the wall, and this is, I appreciate who Whitney is this year because who knew, going to therapy for your communication skills would help you be a

her housewife for the viewers right she's able to convey her actual feelings and what she's going through and obviously you know it sucks but it also does really help especially for a housewife when you're going through something very serious like this because one it makes us it helps us to understand where you're coming from who you are and why you do the things that you do in the current season but she even in these situations when she's talking to angie in the past she wouldn't be able to know she would ask a very dumb question that would probably come off as very rude instead she's already thought about this and it is an eerily similar situation

that her and Justin are going through so she is actually a good point of contact for Angie they might have completely different viewpoints they might end up in completely different situations with their marriage but Whitney now I feel like through her therapy through talking to Justin the fact that they're actually sitting down and discussing things

it sounds like it's all kind of unraveling and she's now telling us like all of her thoughts we're getting the whole it's caboodle. But it's not, yeah, and it's not even in like the typical Whitney fashion where it's word, word, just coming out all at once. It's pretty sentient. It's pretty sentient. And that's, that's salient. Salient, I think is the correct way. We're having a hard time with words. Why do we try these words? We don't know what they mean. Anyway, I think that with Whitney, it's all just kind of completely coming out. And the fact that it's just so on point

and she moves on to the next point and it's so like perfectly placed and again and again and again, it kind of blew me away. Yeah, same. Because one, we're not used to Whitney being that clear. Two, there's so much to unpack. And it seems like she's unpacked a lot of it already, which is crazy to see, too, because now we're seeing the aftermath of it all, and we're understanding.

And it seems like Whitney's kind of at peace with all of that, too, which is even wilder. And sitting there with Angie, I felt a little bad, because Angie's just trying to navigate her marriage and figure out, you know, it's been a while since we've had sex. We don't really get a whole lot of alone time. And Whitney's over there, like, it's really hard to be monogamous. Yeah, I know.

And we're like, fuck. Angie's just having a hard time right now. Like, she could be in a Pavit Jessel situation where it's like, I really love my husbands. We're just having a hard time postpartum with the kids and everything at home. There's no hope. Yeah, Whitney's like, honestly, they're not going to try anything anymore. It's really hard to be monogamous.

I would just give up right now. Yeah. Like, fuck. Angie came here for support. Not that kind of advice. Not advice. But moving on, we get the podcast scene with hanging by a thread. We got Meredith, Seth, Justin and Whitney are coming on to be guests.

And I think it's hilarious. Anytime we get a scene with Meredith Marks, we have to brand. We have to show the brand. She puts out some cookies with the M on it. Like, anybody's going to buy those. And her microphone, everything's stamped. It's always a branding. You got Seth answering the door in his podcast headphones.

Exactly. And, you know, I think here's, I finally figured out why these two grossed me out when they're, like, lovey-dovey with each other. It's because they're PC about it. I don't care for when people, like, edit. dirty talk, I think it's grosser. Instead of just being gross. If you're going to be gross, be gross. But don't say

Meredith, you're a dirty, stinky boy. And he's like, I am a dirty, stinky boy. I'm like, it literally makes the hair on the back of my next end up. You just say like, yeah, I'm a naughty little bitch or something like that is funny. And it's really funny when you bring in somebody like Whitney too. And you start talking about

where's the weirdest place that you guys have ever done the dirty deed? And it's like, let's just fucking say sex. That's not what they said. Please tell me what they said. Where is the weirdest place you did Whoopi. Don't do that. Just say fucked, say banged.

Are you just turned on as I am right now? Yeah, but I'm trying to calm down. Whoopi. But it's so funny, you get somebody in the room like Whitney who's going to probably be a little graphic and probably be a little vulgar. And you can see that they're a little uneasy, but they look like fifth graders talking about sex

and they're like anxious at the prospect of hearing what Whitney's going to say. That's the question. Don't ask the question. What is your podcast even about? I don't know. Whoopi, apparently. Whoopee, but...

At least they finally hit record. No, but my favorite part is Whitney again. Why are we your first guest on a podcast called Hanging by a Thread? And Justin goes, every marriage is hanging by a thread when you really think about it. I'm like, you are the worst husband. He honestly is the worst husband. You suck, bro. How is that your response?

I think they both know that their marriage is over. They do, too. And they've come to accept that. But that's what pisses me off about this scene because then when they get into it, they're talking like, oh, he always supports me. She always supports me this, that they're singing each other's praises. I'm like, you just so had a scene with Angie that monogamy's next to impossible. You guys talked about getting a divorce already. And now you're going to sit there and prop each other up.

And yeah, obviously you're not going to go on a podcast with two other married people and drag your significant other. But at the same time, like the hypocrisy to me was really annoying. Yeah, it's incredibly annoying But I think that Seth and Meredith knew exactly what they were doing Oh yeah Let's have Whitney and Justin on Because we know that their marriage

Is literally hanging by a thread Let's have them on and they can talk about it This will get good numbers They're just using their podcast to their advantage But that's what Meredith's fucking storyline Is so far this year But the thing with her dude You can say a lot about Meredith

We do say a lot about Meredith She's smart She's very intelligent She knows how to play the game her way It's a very specific way she plays the game she is i just don't care for it i don't either it annoys me it's not my favorite like gameplay approach but at the same time she tends to come out unscathed and she uses these people like this i think she does but she's getting now to the point where people aren't trusting her

and i think that's why we're not seeing her so much in these situations because they don't trust that she's going to help them and actually advise in a situation we're getting the pairing off of Heather and Monica are over here and then Heather and Lisa are over here and then we've got Angie and Whitney going out and Whitney and Heather hanging out like there's never the one-on-one situation and I guess we get one next week with Lisa

and Meredith but there's never a Meredith one-on-one situation anymore because they don't feel comfortable talking to her because she shares their secrets with other people and holds on to them until she needs them and everybody kind of figured that out I fully agree with what you're saying I'm just saying

I think she knows how to play the game but I think she's in for awakening. Okay. I can get a bore with that. If people aren't going to tell her anything, then there goes her entire MO. That's a good point. It's a good point. But we get to the Mormon party with the bonds and the aprons. And Monica says hi to Lisa when she gets there. And Lisa just flat out ignores her, which is like, at the very least on all housewife franchises, people can say the worst things in the world to each other. When they enter the room, you at least get the fake hey, or sometimes it's like the rude. Like, oh my God, it's so. So great to see you, but like the flat out ignoring that everything she's doing right now is bugging me, Lisa.

It really is, too. And that's what sucks about it. And I know we didn't really get to talk about the scene with Heather and Monica sitting down talking about how they're planning the trip. And Monica agrees, yeah, all right, we can squash the thing with Lisa so that we can go on the trip and we can have a good time. It says you need to apologize to Lisa. Yes. But Monica agreed. And Monica's like, okay, yeah, all right, whatever.

Lisa has the sit down with Heather, same type of thing, even though there's a little bit of push. back so you know it's going to happen and if you're monica and you show up there you understand and even though we didn't see that i'm assuming that heather said i'm going to go talk to lisa too so that you guys can mutually agree to squash it and everything will be okay monica goes into this thinking okay heather talked to lisa there was no issues there so we're going to be able to squash it i'll walk in and i'll say hey Lisa immediately shuts down i hate that move i do too i can't stand that move because it's putting heather in a shit position because she just tried to play peacemaker and you're immediately throwing that away Lisa doesn't care

It doesn't care because you know what? And I'm so fucking excited for next week when Whitney calls Lisa out for only caring about herself. But Lisa only cares about herself. I agree. And this scene plays out. It's bizarre. And we get to see them do a bunch of Mormon stuff. And it's about what I pictured would be happening at a Mormon party, the turning butter than making the creepy hanky dolls.

But when they sit down at lunch, we do the Who's on Your Wagon game, which I always got to play the games. Why, but why do they always have to be the games that are going to erupt in a fight? So you would say it's shady, it's shady, not reasonable? It is shady, not reasonable. That's correct. But they're sitting there and we do the who's going to kick off your wagon. And Lisa immediately goes out to Monica's, I'd keep everyone who loves women. So buy Monica.

It's like, if you want to take a dig here, by all means, the setup is there. We're playing, kick somebody off your wagon. You can kick her off your wagon, that's fine. We know you don't get along. Yep. Why? You do not have to go any further. Anti-women.

It's such a leap. It's such a goddamn leap. And it's like, now you're painting her as somebody. It doesn't support women that's anti-feminist. Like, it goes so far beyond. But if anything, you could do the same thing with Lisa because guess what? Lisa was causing a ruckus during Whitney's thing last week where Whitney's kicking off a new business. You're supposed to be there supporting women.

Correct. What did you do? You made it all about yourself. And then you walked. away from Whitney without saying goodbye. What did Monica do? She checked in, said it was a lovely day. You look really great.

Thank you so much for having me. I'll see you later. You guys were in the same disagreement. Yes. One person thanked Whitney, said that she looked great and had a great time and wished her luck. Yes. Lisa made it all about herself and left. You're not supporting women, Lisa.

Period. Sucks. Yeah, but that's... Anti-women Lisa. Let's start that one. Oh, Jesus, no. But she immediately starts going after Monica and saying, you called your mom, the TED Bundy thing, keep, oh my God, if it keeps coming back, the fact that you don't understand metaphors

and analogies is not a reason to keep using the same ammo. She doesn't even understand serial killers. She doesn't even know. She's like, that's somebody who ate a bunch of people. He murdered them and then he ate them and you called your mom that. First off, that's Jeffrey Dahmer. All right, if you're going to play the serial killer game, get the serial killer, right? Ted Bundy was the very charming, very outgoing guy that would trick women into thinking that he liked them and get back to their place and murder them.

His attractiveness is also overblown. I agree. I don't understand that. People always say he's attractive. You see a picture of me like, I watched the Bundy documentary and people like, he was just, I think the... He's not even 70s attractive. He's like, you know? That's such a funny term, and you're tied.

You know what I'm saying, yeah. But, no, get your serial. If you're going to play the game, play it right. Yeah. But she's can't, I guess what bugs me about it so much is the lack of understanding at what that statement was from Monica originally. And this isn't even me getting on Monica's side defending her. I'm going to in this scene, but not because I don't think she's full of shit, just because

this scene really suck to watch. But as it starts to get more and more intense, and I appreciate Angie breaking a glass to get everybody's attention, she was trying to cheers, it wasn't working, and she just spikes the wine glass on the ground and everyone shuts up for two seconds. but the whole point of this is to invite them on this Bermuda trip yep right and all the sudden as Lisa's spewing just as much

bullshit at Monica if not more Heather's now turning and this is the Heather I didn't want to see again I figured we would and here she is again and I think that it's like ingrained in her that she needs to latch on to somebody it was with Jen Shaw previously

Jen Shaw's gone who's the new HBIC from an outsider perspective it could be Lisa Barlow just because she's the cool kid in class. She's now cool with Lisa again, so they're trying to figure their shit out. She's not going to scorn Lisa.

She immediately goes like making faces at Monica, that Monica's being crazy. She says, you're being crazy right now. It's like, look to your left. Lisa's being a fucking disaster. Tell her to shut up. She's being so rude. She's saying horrible things,

and Monica's firing back. This is not a one-sided thing. This is both sides of the table. Tell them both to shut the fuck up. Agreed. And it doesn't make any logical, sense because Heather's the one who started with the we need to

squash this so that we can have fun on the trip I want Lisa to come on the trip I want Monica to come on the trip we need to make sure that you guys are good before we leave you can't pick sides no nothing more there's no more new evidence that has popped up Monica didn't say anything meaner than she's already said and she's

only going back at Lisa because Lisa started it if Lisa had just said hey originally maybe things would have smoothed over but no she didn't Lisa continued it obviously it's a shady fucking game to play but we see it on every show so i'm not going to spend a whole lot of time talking about that but of course lisa's going to say i want monica off and you know what if she was really going to squash it she would say maybe i would want whitney off because whitney's going to talk too much and i don't

want i want a little silence on my trip yeah that would be funny maybe whitney wouldn't think it was so funny but the rest of us would understand instead you took another dig at monica who you're supposed to be apologizing to if i'm heather i'm pissed i'm furious at lisa we had a discussion about you apologizing to Monica. Monica apologizing to you, and we move on. She was never about Lisa apologizing. It was always about Monica apologizing. She's not giving her the chance to apologize.

No, she's not. But at the same time, they both, if anyone's apologizing, they're both apologizing to each other. They both have things to atone for. Heather pulls Monica to the side to be like, hey, let's figure this out. I want this trip to work. You need to come with us, blah, blah, blah.

Lisa comes over. It's a bullshit apology, but things are kind of squashed. And this is one of the things, you know, love or hate Monica. This is why I like Monica because it didn't work. Right. She sits at the table and she's still upset and like she says some weird shit, but

I get the point. Yeah. And the bottom line is, I'm not going. I'm not cool. Just because she came over there and gave me a half-assed whatever and then sits at the table and says, we're fine. Monica apologized. No, she didn't. You went over there to squash it. That's what happened.

Then you come back to the table. Monica doesn't bite. She says, I'm not fucking going heather completely flips now she's team lisa fuck monica that's where heather's at again i don't care how you feel about monica the heather wishy-washy picking one side because it's with the cool kids and pick on the other person is my least favorite heather we saw it all last season i was sick of it then if this is the way heather turns after such a great return to grace i'm going to be so bummed yeah it's going to be a huge bummer i'm i'm upset with monica for a different reason you're going to let Lisa Barlow

get the best of you. Come on, man. You had so much promise. You were supposed to be really good at this. I got kind of tired of like the teenage insults, sure, but you can't back down to Lisa Barlow. Now you're giving her power and we already don't like where she's going this season. Her head's getting way too big and she just beat you.

She just got you to the point where you said you're not going on the trip that you suggested, obviously with Heather in some sort of mutual agreement. But it was still supposed to be a, a trip that maybe you could host a little bit, get your feet wet in the hosting game as far as House Wave goes, you back down immediately. And I don't think Lisa, yes, it was annoying as shit to watch. It was hard to watch because Heather flipped.

But from Lisa's perspective, she didn't say anything more than what she said in the last couple of weeks. Why is this enough to ruffle your feathers so much that you're now going to back down to Lisa? I don't want to see that because guess what? No one else is standing up to Lisa. At least not right now. Next week, it looks like Whitney. I'm okay with that because you know what?

You can go insult Whitney. I don't think she's going to care if you insult her. Whitney seems to be in such a crazily good place. I'm one good episode away from being Team Whitney Rose. Yeah, I'm already there. I've been there all the way. I'm like right here. I'm almost there.

I've been there for different reasons. But now I'm actually there for she's doing a great job this season. She is. And I think the funniest thing in this scene, and then we're going to go to Beverly Hills, this is how much of a pick me. I'm the coolest. I'm the smartest person.

Lisa Barlow is she knows they're going to Bermuda because Heather has told her when they're playing the guessing game pulling that stupid shit out of that little jar trying to figure out where they're going Heather's like what beach is at pink sand and Lisa's like Bermuda

you know you're going to Bermuda keep your mouth shut up you don't sound smart but she took the opportunity just sounds smart and intelligent which is hilarious because it's dumb guess what we all know that you knew about this beforehand.

So the viewers don't think you're smart. We think you're an asshole. I was like, of course you did that. Of course you couldn't just let it go. You had to be the way to figure it out. I mean, I was getting kind of tired of them guessing wrong anyway. Totally. I'm not.

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That's where I want to be. Hey. I was done with it. I didn't want to keep going. I didn't want to do the voice. Oh, yeah, you can go there. Yeah. I was trying to.

I thought you were going to do the high pitch. Like, look at me. That's in the song? Yeah, dude. What part? Right after that's where I want to be. Oh, yeah. me yeah okay I did it for you oh there you go I mean I also did it when I told you what

it was so I ended up doing it anyway I tricked you into doing it okay you're all right yeah you did trick me I'm Meredith Marks do don't trick me I don't like being tricked let's talk about the hubspin the hubspins what are we talking about Beverly Hills hello we start out we get the continuation of Sutton and Kyle and to sum it up no Sutton does not seem okay in this scene. But for me, I didn't appreciate Kyle's approach either. We're going to get further into it later on when they talk again. But we get a visit from Erica's mom. I didn't know about Erica's mom. So it's interesting now it plays in. And I wonder if that's because all of the other shit's out of the way with Tom. And now she's like, all right, well, time for new

storylines. I'm introduced my mom to the show. Maybe. I mean, she says that her mom comes out every year once a year to visit for a few days they are it seems like the same type of person they seem like the same person which is very hard to stay with the same person for four or five days because i understand you're going to get to a point where you want to butt some heads yeah and i get and like they're only 18 years apart so that has to be an interesting dynamic as well like she says you know we were we were more friends than we were parent daughter like she would go clubbing with them when she's like 15 you know whatever we're not got to dive into kind of funny yeah we're not going to dive into the dynamics of their relationship unless we have a reason to do so.

But the first thing I really want to talk about, we get Garcel with Jade, and they are discussing the Jack's conversation that we saw on the beach. And clearly, and I knew it would come back up again, but this is something that's clearly affecting Garcel, and understandably so. And I'm glad that Jade, at least, is seemingly the exact opposite of Jacks. He's just chilling, cooking steak, and he loves his mom and, like, whatever. All he wants in life is for his girl. friend to sleep over. Absolutely not. Absolutely not, dude. What a ridiculous request, by the way.

Well, at least Ashley was allowed to go to the premiere. That was cool. I think, of course she should be allowed. I think Garcel was excited at the premise of like hanging out with her. Look, he's just trying to push some boundaries. It's really funny to see the two brothers going after it where you've got Jack's just kind of seeming like an adult. Yeah. Approaching things from the emotional intelligence of somebody that seems much older than me, even me. The funny thing is, if that was Jack's asking, I feel like he'd be like, so my girlfriend's going to sleep over. Yes. We're going to stay.

We're going to need you out of the house for a few hours. Yeah. We're going to do our own thing. So I'm going to need you to go elsewhere. Yeah. And Jade's like, a kid. He's like, can't you sleep over? Like, and we find out that she's doing a screening for her movie, Black Girl missing.

She's an executive producer on it. And it's, you know, as we always say and we sing ourselves praises, especially when it comes to her professional life, like she's killing it. So, like, this is a cool thing for her. But we get to Crystal, and we've been wanting more of Crystal this season. So we get her and hip-hop Rob and a little bit more in depth on the Jeff scenario with his ex-fiance. Yes. Jeff is back in China and he's having lunch with VV, I believe is her name, in Shanghai.

And I got to say, Rob's candidness, love it. Yeah. No, I really enjoy it. This is a different type of husband on TV. A different hubspin. Hubspin. Obviously, we know that their relationship's really good, but we now find out that Rob and Jeff are also very close. Yes.

And they share a lot. They travel together, and he has a bit of insight into what's going on with Jeff and Vivi and how he feels about it. It was heartbreaking to watch. I know that we watched the first scene where they sat down at lunch and we got a little bit of a glimpse into what happened with Jeff and his ex-fiance and why she wasn't able to come to America. while we still don't really have all the details there, you get the emotional dynamic of the whole thing and where Jeff currently is. And I get it.

It does get me to a point where I watch Crystal seemingly be a mother to Jeff. More or less, yeah. And she just wants what's best for him. She wants to protect him. But that being said... At the same time, like imposes her will a little bit. Yeah, but all that says to me, because I know Crystal is a good person

and she wants what's best for her brother, it says that there's way more to this story than what we're getting. I think so. And I think Crystal knows more, but at the same time, Jeff is also very close to Rob. And Rob is saying, let him go do this. He needs to sit down and talk to her. He's going to be an emotional mess right now.

Maybe we don't need FaceTime up, but, you know, do what you're going to have to do. I didn't think that was the appropriate time for FaceTime. No, I didn't think that was an appropriate time for a FaceTime. But again, heartbreaking to watch because he's going to see her for the first time since that happened. And he's already crying when the FaceTime is answered. And I think the interesting thing to me here is one, I appreciate that Crystal's able to hear criticisms from Rob

and take them in stride and also like actually hear him. And also say who fucking asked you. Yeah. But in like, you know, which was a serious statement. Yeah. But it's also like they respect each other enough to be like,

hey, this is what I think. Right. And Crystal respects him enough to hear it. Maybe not love it. But. And Rob's got a good point. He's like,

Jeff wants to stand alone. He wants to live his own life, make his own decisions, whatever. And Crystal's like, you know, I'm very protective of him. And she also alludes to it being a cultural thing.

And which is, you know, fine. And I get where she's coming from. I understand the premise of it. Well, when you hear the story, it's hard not to place blame here. And obviously, I'm not saying that Crystal flat out was the reason that they broke off the engagement. Right. But the overwhelming pressure to get back to the States, get back to the States and leave your fiancé in China. I can't imagine the strain that puts on both their relationship.

The good thing here, when the FaceTime ends, Jeff's like, I love you both. He clearly leans on these two a lot. And like you said, I do think it's more of a, I don't want to say mother, son, father, son with Rob and Crystal. But it's definitely the big brother, big sister aspect, if not father, whatever. But I think it's going to be interesting to see it play out, just how this is going to affect their relationship with Jeff. Right. This conversation is going to go with Vivi.

We love Jeff on this show. Yeah, we definitely love Jeff. So, like, I want the best for him, too. but I think that it's going to be interesting to watch how it affects Crystal like is she going to be able to let him go and kind of live his own life make his own choices for better or worse

and again I think the big takeaway for me the dynamic that this family has overall is good it's definitely good it's just we're seeing like two different thought processes here where it seems and that's why I kind of hint at the fact that there's got to be a little and more to the relationship that we're not getting to maybe why it ended overall. Maybe it wasn't just the fact that Crystal was pressuring Jeff to get back to the States

and said pretty much leave your fiancé behind. You need to get here. I don't care about her. There could be way more there because, one, I trust Crystal as a person. So if she has that kind of reasoning, there's got to be a reason why she's doing it. Rob has a different thought process of you need to let Jeff live his own life and be his own man. And yes, maybe it's not what's best for him to go see Vivie right now. it's not what's best for him to potentially spark another relationship with her

and try to figure it out again. Maybe it is. But maybe it is. And we're not going to know that until he goes and does that himself. We can't make the decision for him. I agree with both lines of thinking. I do. I also appreciate that at the end of the FaceTime,

Chris is like, I feel bad. Like I do feel that. So she is taking accountability in this whole thing. And at the end of the day, I do believe her and Rob what's best for Jeff and what Jeff wants. So I think this is going to be interesting to watch a plan. Well, I really appreciate the fact that,

after the FaceTime, even though clearly they disagree on what's best for Jeff and what he should do, they're still cool. Totally cool. Love to see that that's not driving a wedge in between their relationship. Love a healthy marriage around here, but we get to Sutton and Jennifer Tilly. I'm glad I, she can keep coming back. Bring me more. Oh, yeah.

She's great. Need more Tilly. Need more Tilly. But they are going to see Santos, who we heard all about in our interview of Sutton. If you haven't seen yet, go take a watch, take a listen. But they get to the Kyle conversation. and this one was easier for me to break down finally as far as why everyone's so concerned about the exercising and the not drinking and the extremes of everything

because it just highlights the changes right we're getting a lot of very drastic changes for me I was putting too much emphasis on the fact and it's because it's so close to home but I was putting a lot of emphasis on the fact that people have a problem with her not drinking yeah and that made me mad so I wasn't able to see through like what the point of it was this was able I was able to see through it here where it's like okay the point being you're making these major changes in your life all at once and that alludes to one thing and one thing only you're going through something something's happening you're changing some phase in your life and there's a reason for that there's a caveat here that

we do not know what we do know there's been rumor after rumor in the press about mo we do know you haven't been wearing your wedding band there's questions here and you're in the limelight you're going to have to answer these questions and i'm just i'm curious how this is going to continue to play out yeah everything kind of points to the fact that it seems like there's more going on with sutton that she's kind of deflecting and going at kyle for agreed because if you are a friend of kiles and you see all of these things and we don't really get that soft of a touch from really any of the women on this show no they're not the the like even dureate who's very close to the situation And Threat also has something going on with PK.

So there's just things all over the place. I would have liked it a little bit better if instead of Sutton playing the defensive and doing the name him, name him, name him over and over again, you know for a fact and you tell us in your confessional and you tell Kyle that clearly something's going on with Kyle, apply a little bit of a softer touch and maybe you'll actually get further and find out. I know that Kyle's going to deny pretty much everything until she's blue in the face. maybe eventually we're going to get a little bit more but that's not the right way to go about it you can't be an asshole and just be on the defense of the whole time and yell back at Kyle you should sit there and say

Kyle you're acting erratic right now what the hell's going on with you tell me what's going on with you don't go at her like that the same way that she's going at you you're not going to get anywhere it's just uncomfortable to watch I agree and I think that you said it perfectly because all of these women have shit going on behind the scenes

they will all be defensive right because they're dealing with their own shit They don't want anybody to unearth what they're going through because they don't want to talk about it, clearly. So everyone plays defense. Sutton's clearly got something going on. She's playing defense. She's being a little bit erratic

and she's being coming on too strong. But the other thing is she's sitting down with her best friend, Jennifer Tilly. I agree. It didn't seem like there's anything going on. Who you're going to tell? I mean, I think there's something going on, but you're sitting with Jennifer Tilly. Jennifer's sitting there really just listening because she's being a good friend.

Yeah, totally. I need Sutton to say something. something to her. If you are going through something, you should be confiding in Jennifer. You shouldn't be just focusing on just Kyle. That's my point. Defensive. No one's going to take that opportunity to just flat out say it. And I want to move on to, you know, get Derreet waiting for Sutton. They're going to Garcel's screening. And we had previously some face times and some conversations between Sutton and Garcel, Kyle and Dorit. And all it is is pitting the other one against the other one. Yeah. Sutton's FaceTime. It's not listening. Kyle is changing.

everything, what's going with Kyle on Kyle and Doreet's FaceTime, it's all about how crazy Sutton was the other night. I don't know what's going on with her and like the elevator thing and blah, blah, blah. But we get to Doreet waiting because Sutton's the only person that I know

that when she wants to level up her social media, hires a full-time photographer. Yeah. To just follow her around and take pictures. I think we should do that. No, we can't afford that. No shot. Let's start a Go-fund me.

Go-fund me for a full-time photographer for the problem. I feel bad for whoever has to get that job anyway. I know. You don't want to hang out with us 24-7. No. I don't want you to hang out with me 24-7, actually. I like my alone time.

Well, you're the one that... Never mind. I'm not doing this. I didn't say 24-7. I just said sometimes, you know? Well, they're full-time. Just enough for us to be late to parties. Oh, okay.

I like that. Fashionably late. That's taken it to another level. But on their ride there, and I don't ever want to take away from anybody's trauma. Because your trauma is your trauma. But I've got questions. Doreet's upset because she finds that there's going to be a hundred people at this screening.

A hundred people that Garsell knows. He knows these people. She invited them to this thing. This is not a bunch of randoms. Dereet has an issue with that because she has PTSD from everything that happened. Okay. Do you think that's why she didn't press Sutton? Because we got that conversation with Dorete and Kyle talking about Sutton, obviously being in a weird place.

In the past, we would see Dorete immediately open up with that. I disagree. I think she would have opened up with that. if there was another person in the car. I think one-on-one, no. Okay. I think one-on-one, no. All right, I'm good with that.

My follow-up, you weren't uncomfortable going to Magic Mike with a hundred strangers? Yeah, you weren't uncomfortable being in Las Vegas? You know what I'm saying? I'm just like the timing in which she chooses to break this out,

again, if she's going through it. She did this, when did she did it for Sutton's store opening last year? That was another thing. It seems like it's more about paparazzi. than anything, but I don't know, man. It's just like, for me to pick and choose when it's affecting you is weird. I'm trying to figure out why these certain situations where photos are being taken and it's an opening for something.

Those are the things that seem to affect for the most. Why? But when they get there, like, someone makes a noise and she's like, wah! Come on, man, there's no, like, you weren't doing that when you got some dude swinging his dick around the stage, like right behind you and there's some random bumps into you. That's a good point, paparazzi out in that. L.A., start swinging your dicks around. Maybe you can get some pictures a treat.

No, Magic Mike, dude. I know. She's afraid of the paparazzi in just L.A. I don't know. It's just, I had to call attention to it. Again, I don't want to take away from what she's going through. It's just interesting, the timing in which she has a problem with crowds. I agree.

But I thought this was really cool of Jacks to, and this is the most mature kid I've ever seen in my life, honestly. But he is talking to Crystal and he's like, I want to go clear the air with Erica. Like, I'm just going to go. You want to come with me? 15 years old. 15 years old. and more emotionally mature than you and I. But he takes the time to go over to Erica and just clear the air, say, hey, we're cool.

Erica apologizes to him. He accepts the apology, smooths everything over. Garcel is an issue with the fact that Erica didn't go over there first. And for me, I disagree. I've got myself defending, dude. I'm defending Erica, and I hate who I am now. Me too, because in that regard. There's two different moments, too.

Well, going back to the scene with her mom, when her mom kept pressing her about questions about Tom. Yeah. And then she says, you need to just leave it. and you need to heal. Shut the fuck up that. You're the one who's asking questions. Don't bring it up. Leave my girl Erica Jane alone.

Whoa. You know? Wow. But then the same thing happens with Garcel. Erica didn't have a chance to go over to Jacks. She just got there. As soon as she got there, Jacks,

you should, if anything more, you should be applauding Jacks even more because as soon as Erica showed up, he had the thought, I want to go over and clear the air right away, brings Crystal an ally to go do that. Not to mention, you just told the whole group, you don't trust these women around your kids.

Yeah, that's a little weird for me, too. I don't like that either. It's a stretch, right? That was a stretch for her to be like, she should have done it first. It's like, can't she just be happy that it happened? Yeah. And can she be proud of your son? I mean, she was proud of his son.

But just be proud of him. You don't have to take that opportunity to throw a dig at Erica because I don't think it was warranted there. Because also, Erica was impressed by the fact that he came over right away since his praises and confessional. Yes. What a wonderful kid. Great job, Garcel. Go to cut to Garcell's confessional. I really wish Erica did it first.

Like, dude, come on. Yeah. Come on. but we get to the screening and Denise Richards shows up. I found out I was reading an article. Nobody knew she was going. She just showed up. Production didn't know.

Carcel invited her. The crew had no clue she was walking in. I don't. I read that. I don't know. The timing is a little suspicious. I'm just saying. That's something that production would do.

Okay, Denise, we're going to hold you for a few minutes. Let everybody get seated. and then we're going to send you it. I agree, but I could also see, because I've seen scenes from this season of these, and she is erratic. She is, like, stirring her words. Like, so could I see her just showing up?

Yeah, we're really good. But regardless, she shows up, and then we get a quick scene of Kyle and Sutton sitting down. And the minute they sit together, this is my issue with Kyle. And I agree with Sutton here when Sutton's like, this friendship's a farce. You don't respect me, treat me like a little sister.

And instead of Kyle being like, I don't treat you like a little sister. sister, period? I don't treat you like a little sister. Don't flatter yourself. Every time that these two have a conversation, Kyle has to take it upon herself to belittle Sutton. Yep. Even if Sutton's wrong, we can agree. Sutton was acting a little crazy the other night. Yeah, sure. But if you truly are her friend as you claim to be, how come every time you guys sit down to have a heart to heart, you have a little stank in your voice? Why can you not just hear her out and give her honest feedback as her friend? Why do you always have to take it to a level of

this person is less intelligent than I am. This person doesn't understand things the way that I do. I don't have the time of day for your bullshit. Why can't you just figure it out? Why do you have to be the way that you are? Because that's your friend, man. If that's your friend, you sit there and try to figure out what's going on. If you're nervous or afraid of what you saw the other night, hey, I'm genuinely worried about you.

You just acted a little bit off. You were just a little bit weird. I don't get it. Are you okay? Can we talk about it? That's the same thing that I was just talking about that Sutton could have done with Kyle. I agree. But in this scene, Sutton is doing that.

Sutton's like, hey, I want to talk to you about things. Like, I have questions. What's going on with you? I think you can't. It's too little too late, though. You can't start off like that and then change your tune. I agree. But for me, if you are truly friends, all right?

I don't think they are. They're not. I think Sutton even said that, right? I don't think that Kyle's a good friend. Right, but I don't think that that's because of Sutton. No. I think that's Kyle's fault because of what I just said. I think that Kyle treats her a certain way.

that she's lesser than on an intelligence scale. We saw it with the Diana Jenkins thing last year. We saw it up in Aspen. Nobody ever defended Sutton except for Garcel. Now we're starting to see that people are getting a little bit closer. And we're even seeing Doreet be closer to Sutton, which is kind of weird. Kyle's not doing that. Kyle has always kind of steadfast in this relationship where she is belittling Sutton.

She always does it in a way that it's like a big sister that's looking at Sutton saying, you don't know how the world works. I'm going to show you how the world works in a very condescending way. Yeah. That's how Kyle talks. to Sutton, but it doesn't excuse either's behavior. They're both just, neither of them is going to get anywhere in this conversation. I don't know who can sit down because I don't think, I think Doreet's too afraid to sit down

with Kyle and say, what the hell's going on with you? I don't know what's going on with you and there's so many things going on. And maybe it's because you can chalk it up for Dorete and P.K. being in a weird spot, so maybe Dorete doesn't feel appropriate doing that. I think Garcell's eventually going to do it, but Garcell's on this weird kick of, I don't trust you with my children. Right. So I don't, the timing's just not adding up right now for me and I don't like it.

I don't care for it. it's just it's frustrating honestly to watch and i just at the end of the day these two are not friends they shouldn't be friends it's not working and for sutton her point saying if we were friends you would confide in me and this is what light bulb moment me because that's when i realized all right clearly kyle's going through a lot and we see it in the media we see it everywhere her and maricio have split all that stuff she's not talking to a soul about it yeah She is keeping everything to herself. And love her or hate her, I don't care how you feel about Kyle.

Anybody that's stuck in that spot, that sucks. Like, she's clearly between a rock and a hard place, doesn't know how to deal with it. She's turning to not drinking. She's turning to not exercising all the time. She's turning to all of these extremes, Morgan Wade, all of these new things in her life, which in moderation, great. Yeah. however when you find out and like i guess by sudden saying it flat out like she's not confiding in me i'm like wow she's not talking to anyone yeah so to deal with this shit on your own having that

constant battle in your head trying to take care of yourself and i've been there where you get stuck in this moment where you're like i don't need anybody else i can figure this out of my own i don't trust anybody else it's a shitty spot to be in because that's false nobody can do it on their own. Everybody needs a supporting hand. So in this moment, I felt for Kyle because I know she's going through a lot. I don't like how she treats Sudden and other people in general. I don't like that she seems to think she's better than other people a lot of the time. However, knowing what she's going through, knowing what she's dealing with, knowing that she has no allies, she does, but she refuses to see them. It's just this whole season where we can usually pinpoint the direction,

we can usually pinpoint who we're going to like, where it's going to go at least a little bit. Right. I'm lost. I'm really lost. And we're in a weird position, too, because if you just heard that a friend was going through something and they were lashing out in the way that Kyle is and their erratic behavior keeps popping up, you're going to feel really bad because you know something deeper is going on. But we're watching reality TV. We are. And she's not doing the things that we want her to do.

And it's very frustrating to watch. I just want you to give us some straight answers. I want you to stop treating your friends like shit because you're going through something bad. Everything that she's doing, it's excusable. It really is. If you're thinking about it in a pragmatic way, what she's doing is a cry for help. A lot of the things that she's doing, she has nobody to confide in, and she's not doing yourself any favors, but I fully understand why. She's in a shitty position.

I guess that's the hard part is you understand why. Yeah, but this is reality TV and it's frustrating the hell out of me because we just want answers. I just want you to open up to one person. I don't care who it is. It would help you so much. I know. And for that person to assumingly be, Morgan Wade, why? Why?

He doesn't know you. No, just because you stalked her on Instagram? Like, that doesn't make any sense to me. You need a friend that, like, will tell you. It's more and more behavior. More and more behavior that I just don't understand. And again, I'm saying that I can excuse it because of what she's going through, but she's not giving us anything.

and it's got to be really frustrating because I want to support her and I want her to feel good and I want her to be happy but she's not doing herself any favors and she's leaving like a wrecking crew behind her while she's going through all of this and it's really hard to defend her you can support without defending I think

I agree with that. I think at the end of the day you can support without defending so that's kind of where I am with Kyle I support her and I want her to be happy but I'm not going to defend her because all of her actions are really pissing me off no I agree and I'm not a Kyle fan I'm not even saying that What is that? What do you mean? I don't like the original Kyle fan.

Yeah, and then last year I was off that bandwagon real quick because she was such an asshole. Well, the bandwagon stuck, bud, because you were driving the bus. And now nobody's driving it. Good, leave it there. That's not my point. Who would you throw off your van wagon? That's actually a question. I was going to say, that takes us to the question portion of the show.

Of the brav bros, who would you throw off a wagon? I'd throw myself off. I would throw you off too. But from Susan M. Flowers, who are you kicking off? your wagon in any or all currently airing franchises. So Miami, Beverly Hills, Potomac. A lot. I'm throwing a lot of people off that wagon.

You only get one. Only one? Oh, man. I don't even have to think about it. I don't. There's just so many. There's too many choices, which is... Larsa, get the fuck out of here.

Yeah, Larsa, for sure. I'll go with a different answer, different friends. franchise. I'm tossing Kyle off. Really? I'm annoyed. I'm so frustrated with Kyle. Interesting.

Get off the wagon. I actually don't even care about your separation anymore. Okay. All right. I knew this was going to happen to. Yeah, I figured it would happen to you eventually. You heartless bastard.

I just don't care anymore. Suez Greg Brown. Shooter and steel. That's us. What color bonnets would you pick for yourselves? Kelly Green. Yeah, Kelly Green for sure. Kelly Green all day.

Kelly's red, maybe. Maybe maroon. Nah, I looked good and agree. I said it last week. Powder blue. Oh, powder blue. That's nice. From Lulu Grams, was Monica actually the antagonist

or was everyone else gaslighting her? She was definitely being gaslit. She was being, both are true. She was being gaslit, but her behavior over the last couple of weeks, she kind of deserves when she gets. I don't know if she deserved that shit there. It wasn't that bad.

In the grand scheme of things, we've seen way worse. It wasn't that bad until everyone else took Lisa's side without saying anything about Lisa. I don't, well, Heather took Lisa aside actively. The rest of them were like, quiet, which I hate. This is also a problem. You're on a reality TV show. Stop, stop being quiet.

Talk. Pick aside. From Pineapple Becks, not a question, but I think Heather sued Monica first, and she counter sued. Oh, really? That'll be fun. Then they said, get Monica on. Should we have Monica on? Should we try to do that?

We should probably get the answers before we decide. That's a good point. can get Monica on and just to have her tell a story. Oh, interest. I didn't know that. Thanks, Pineapple Bex. Thanks, Pineapple Bex. Let's do one more.

From, oh, this is perfect. From Valu I Sayow, 27, sorry if I said that wrong. Do you find it difficult to critique Sutton and her behavior now that you've had her on your show? No. No. And we've had conversations with her about that where we said, look, we love you. But if you're an idiot, we're going to call you an idiot. If we have anybody on the show and they have bad.

behavior on the show, we will rip them. Yeah, I agree. Yep. And, um, that's all we got. Oh, no, I'll do this one. From Abigail West 21, where's the best cheese steak in Philly? You got to go to Angelo's. Got to go to Angelo's.

Angelos is the best one. If you want the neighborhood vibe, uh, classic cheese steak, go to Delisandro's. But if you want the best one, it's, it's Angelo's. I want to try Ishka Bibbles. I heard Ishka Bibles is really good. Yeah, I heard it's a new one. Oh, yeah. It's, um, are you telling me this?

I don't know if I did it. I don't know. It's been a long week. I don't know. Yeah, but it's supposed to, fuck, where was it? It's, um, if you're going towards 30th Street Station, whatever that road is, or JFK. JFK. Yeah, so if you're on there, it's in that big building on your right with the apartment. Oh, okay.

It's like in the lobby there. It's supposed to be, Phil told me about it. Okay. It's supposed to be bombed. All right, cool. We'll let you know what that's called. I'm starving. My stomach just gurgled.

Yeah, it's a Chinese. Don't forget to check out our interview with Craig on Monday. It'll be out early in the morning so you guys can check that out. And just. stay up to date with the Brov Bros. Socials because we have a big announcement about a big thing we're doing potentially in a city just north of here called New York City. Hint, hint. We hint about it earlier. Just take the hint. You know what we're saying. We can't say it yet because we haven't done some certain things. Just take the hint. All right? Take the hint. Get off

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