Bros & Shows - Angel and Kiearna: The Sad Sister Duo (RHOP Full Recap)

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

What's up Bros? RHOP is going great. The majority of the cast is vibing, Stacey is an absolute star, but two of the women are having a tough start. Angel and Kiearna continue to feed into one anothers negativity. Now we agree, the photoshop convo was really mean. But in the housewives game you gotta have thick skin. In what seemed like a genuine apology, Gizelle attempted to smooth things over but to no avail. Wendy catches the flu while theyre out and about but not before they celebrate her b-day with a cake. Kiearna excuses herself from the event and the wedge between those two and the rest of the group is growing bigger. Jassi is stepping up in a big way and she and Kiearna get into it at dinner and we are left with a big cliffhanger... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Sex? I was going to say something different, but yeah, no, that's it. That's how we should start it. Bros and shows. Brows and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Bros and shows.

I got to have me my bros and shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by Nevis Shooter. Damn it. No. It's proud of you for work. working Nevis in.

Yeah, I was trying. Nevis shooter, Magouter. I swear there's something... Anticlimactic. Yeah, well, I got less emphatic because I thought it was better. I started to say it didn't flow. You know how to make a guy feel good about talking about Potomac, I guess. Sex?

There you go. With me, by the way, in case you weren't sure. What? What? Okay. I know what Stacy did. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

With me. Yeah, now I understand. Right, guys? Ha-ha. Everybody? Yeah, what a time. Really trying to have. we're really starting to fill out on how we feel about everybody this season.

Yeah. Yeah, it's starting to really hammer home. Rose and cons are really coming into vision here. They are, and that's what's interesting about this season. It's a good season, and I think that most people will agree with that. It's one of those seasons, though, where it's being carried by one crew, and they're doing a great job, and then there are not just one, but two stragglers. Sore thumbs.

Yes. It's a good way to put it. Yeah. There's definitely two stragglers. It's going to be, I think, a season of not even ups and downs, but there's going to be a couple episodes here and there that are like, all right, could have gotten more, but I'm okay with it. But I know that it's going to be a good season,

and there's enough going on where I'm okay with that. We haven't had one of those seasons in a while, honestly. That's what I was trying to say, but you said it way better than I did. Okay, yeah. I feel like for a lot of these seasons, a lot of the franchises across the board, it's either every episode's a hit, every episode's a clunker. We don't get those in between ones where we're living and dying every episode. Yeah, you're right.

I think that that's what we have with the Tomic. This is a solid season. And I think that's important to note because we don't need bangers all the time. We can have a season where it's up and down and we're talking through it. And at the end of it, we kind of come to our conclusion, like good season or bad season. We don't need it to be all hitting all the time. I think, like you said, we've just gotten so used to, wow, this is a terrible season. wow, this is an exceptional season.

There has not been any in between. Bravo will find success when the majority of the shows are in between and then you get some really good ones. The problem is with this huge dichotomy of good and bad now, it's like we start a season and you can get the temperature immediately. Like, well, I don't want to watch this anymore because I know where this is going. It's predictable. I think the temperature is a good sign when we're looking at individuals on the cast and saying,

are you producing or are you not? I guess producing isn't the right word for that. usually works with sports, but for this, it's more, I don't know, there's a long production going on. Yeah, I know, but producing has a bad connotation when we talk about it in Housewives, and that's not what I meant. It's more, are you bringing it or not? Do you fit in or not?

Correct, yes. Are you a good addition? To be fair, Stacey doesn't really fit in, but she's doing a good addition to the group. There we go. That's what we're looking at. I like seasons like that because you can dissect them or we can get into like the actual conversations and where we stand with everyone. That's why we got away from power rankings, probably.

That is why we got away from power rankings. One, and it just became a little too meticulous. Yeah. Now we can get back into them, maybe? Not yet. No. Well, that's the other thing, too. When I'm talking about weighing the options and seeing if you fit in or not,

I'm not just talking about the newbies. I mean, yes, we are going to talk about the newbies and if they fit in or not, of course. It's everybody. But everybody's up. It's a contract year. Yeah. It's always a contract year. It's an episode year now.

Sure is. That's what I'm saying is their episode to episode now on their contracts. You got it, yeah. Just make sure everyone knows. Let them know. But let's get into this episode. And we pick up right where we left off from last week with the Chris Samuel's revelation. Stacey, her first line, and I love that this is her first line.

I adore Chris. Great friendship. You know, we were both going through divorces. We have a lot of things in common. We're just really good friends. He's a great man and father, she says. And Ashley's trying to paint it as though they're a boy. Yeah.

Right. And I love Stacey, which this gets glossed over. A lot of her great work gets glossed over. She's like, well, if you were a guy, wouldn't you tell somebody that you're dating, trying to date me? I was like, that's a good line. That's a really good line. And honestly, to be fair, I don't think for the audience that's listening right now for Ashley and Giselle, they wouldn't. No.

That would not be something that somebody would be proud of dating Stacey because they have this weird vendetta. I still, I can't quite prove it, but I still think that Giselle really enjoys Stacey. And I think she understands that Stacey can take it and she likes it. I'm going to use different examples throughout even this episode and probably throughout the whole season to try to prove. Are you really? I know exactly what you're talking about too. Yeah, when they bring Wendy the Care Package. Yeah, Wendy the Care Package.

When she's talking about Angel a little bit later and this night, she's talking about, oh, yeah, it was good to see her actually kind of bounce back. Now, obviously, that didn't work out. But I think what Giselle does is she knows Stacey can handle it. She's okay with that because Giselle is producing in her mind. She is trying to get those moments on camera. She knows how these shows work. And she doesn't have to be buddy, buddy and partner in crime with a person like Stacey. But she knows she can handle it.

So, yeah, if she throws something her way, good. But earlier in the season, I'm over the divorce talk. I don't really fucking care. That wasn't too Stacey. That may have been to Ashley. Might have. That may have been to the crew. That may have been to the cast.

Like, we're done. Table it. This is stupid. I don't want to do this anymore. Fine. This was a little different. For Ashley, for whatever reason, she's got an axe to grind for Stacy, which becomes more and more apparent as we go through all these episodes.

It's annoying. I'm done with it. That's why I wanted to get checked. Because she feels like she's just doing this from a cloud. Not chin checked. Although somebody very nicely gave us a whole description in our DMs. It was so awesome. I really appreciate that.

I forget her name. But that is very important to note moving forward because Ashley, you're on the hot seat for me. I agree. And I feel like you need to do more and get involved in your own shit. Stop going after Ashley. I agree. but in her to do less in what she's doing currently. Yeah, she's only going after Stacey.

It's just annoying. I thought she was going to get money and be like this carefree, like, whoo, that's not happening. No. It's not happening at all. I do think that she got the money. Dev and I were talking about it earlier. Deb made a great point. She's like, she got this money, and now she thinks because she's rich, she's HBIC.

She thinks that she gets sort of like Wendy some letters at the end of her name. Now she's a castmate, but she's a prestigious castmate. That's what she, yeah. I don't have to worry about this. I can do whatever I want. I can do not the carefree, do whatever I want, but I can produce whatever I want. That's what it feels like. I don't want that.

But Stacey handles herself very well in this, and this happened and played out exactly how I would want it to. Stacey answers immediately, confirms that she knows Chris, confirms that they were talking. Why wouldn't you want to date me? And then that can end. We can move on, and we can get back to the task at hand. Why are you stepping up to block Giselle? We're talking about Giselle's love life here. I'm glad Wendy didn't let that go later.

That was good that she, Wendy, I know she's going through. It sucks, yeah, I know. Great season. But you know what it is, too? Her and Stacey are close. So that also kind of sucks. Yeah, it's a bummer. Maybe she'll beat the allegations.

Who knows? Maybe Eddie'll take the fall. He goes to JLC, stays home. Sadd Eddie. Oh, man. Now this one, and there's a list, a long list of things that Angel did this episode that I'm not so sure what she's doing on this show. But for her to say, he's not like that in regards to Chris Samuels. She says that Bobby was a mentor, I'm sorry, that Chris was a mentor to Bobby.

Her example that she used, Bobby went on an official visit to Bama. Yeah. And Chris played there. So he hung out with him for a weekend. Maybe two days? Yeah. Like an official visit, you're not like, you don't keep in contact with the people. No.

Trust me, I went on a lot of them. maybe, like, there is a world in which they're both from the same area, so they have, but she didn't speak to that at all. There might have been acquaintances. This is just when, Wendy, this is just Angel stepping up and acting like, oh, fuck, I'm really on the hot seat right now. They're really coming after me. Let me just do the one thing that I know and they're talking about football.

Okay, Bobby played football. There's a connection here. I can just act on it and I can speak on it as if I know what I'm talking about. And then you immediately discredit yourself in the confessional. Yep. Again, you don't have to do that. No. You can just say, yeah, you know, Bobby and Chris, they have a history together. We've talked a little bit here and there, so I know what's going on.

He met Bobby at Alabama. Yeah, like, who do you think you're talking to? Not us, because we know what we're talking about here. Oh, yeah, it's a tough, tough line. I like that Stacey lays down the law. She's like, listen, and listen, good. I'm back with my husband. Let him know.

Tell him, put this shit the bed. We don't care. We're dumb with this. And to try to throw Monique in there to stir up more. shit it's like who cares what we said last week you don't know me oh my god i can't even talk you don't know monique second episode you don't know monique you weren't on the show with monique they were that doesn't mean that you have to hold yourself to the same standard i i can't even be talking to her ex-husband because she was on the same show that i'm on five years ago six years ago

who gives a shit yeah it made absolutely no sense and it was such a move to be like well what about monique it's like she never met her yeah and i love that she's like hopefully i will one day maybe go one day. She handled it so perfectly. I'm just going to live my best life in my nameless rope. God, you're a star. So fucking good, man. She's so good at this. It's the perfect hire. I know. It has to be Andy's best. He said

that when he was on Caller Daddy. Yep. He said that the best new housewife edition that has been made was Stacy. He loves Stacy. And we love Stacy and it works up. Everybody loves Stacy. I'm still, I really think that that's what Giselle's doing. Ashley's just not getting it.

And I think that, because I was concerned, I think you were to a little bit early on this season with Giselle, because we were seeing some green-eyed bandit shit starting to peek back out. This episode, Giselle, is the Giselle that we need. Yes, she settled right back into the role that she took so nicely last year. Yeah, it was great. It was really great. She was back to her, back to fire in all cylinders. Yeah, it was good to see. But Stacey ends the scene with, you want me to be someone else so bad, which is a great line. is.

And that you're right. I don't need Angel to relate to it. No. I can relate to why. Why? In what capacity? You're trying so hard right now. Like, just stop.

Like, just don't, don't chime in. By the way, you handled, we're talking about last week again, they were being mean to you and talking about filters on your Instagram and you had a terrible, whatever reasoning or response to that. You don't get involved now. You missed. Yeah. You just swung and missed. You need to recoup.

This is when you get into trouble in the Housewives world, is when you know that you fucked up and you know that you were delivered something on a silver platter that you can turn back on them and say they were being mean girls, which we always circle around that. Instead, you didn't do that. You missed, you know you missed,

and now you're trying to do too much. You're chasing your bet. Never chased your bet. God, she did it so many times this episode too. It's so sad to watch. You're doubling, tripling, quadrupling down in a bad hand. It's not good. Not good play.

They do a little... Shindig for Wendy's birthday. They got a cake and a bunch of stuff back at the room. So they're going to go back and play a game. I thought it was a bad move for Keanu to leave. I agree with everybody else. It's just a tough look. You're alienating yourself from the group and why?

The reasoning makes no sense. I did it for my friend Angel who was going through it. Angel stayed. She's still there. She's still there, which could move by Angel immediately. It's my words right afterwards. But you're doing it because I don't know why, actually. I think it's because of the Wendy thing.

if I had to guess, but to say that you're leaving because you're tired and you don't want to deal with it because of what Angel just went through is stupid. Because she's still there. Yeah. And the Wendy thing is not a big enough deal for you to separate from the group entirely. No, it's not. You're a newcomer. Yeah.

You need to be entrenched in the group. Look at Stacy. She is completely entrenched in the group. Yeah. And they're shitting on her most of the time. Yeah. But she takes it in stride and stays with the group because that's what you need to do to establish yourself.

And it's such a bad time to do that, too. You do need to have a sense of urgency. Like you just said, you are new. I know you're resting on your laurels because you do think that you haven't made right now. But your replacement is right the fuck next year. She's doing really good. She's doing a great job. Jazzy is killing it right now.

She's involved in everything. Everybody seems to like her. I don't know exactly what's going to happen on her bachelorette party a little bit later in this trip. It looks a little bit of a meltdown, but we'll have to see how it plays out. You know how they do those tricks all the time for those trailers. But she's doing a great job right now. And you're going to bed? What are you doing?

No, she's going to sit in a blanket. Yeah, I know. That's the worst part. That's actually kind of relatable. Like, you know, I've had enough. But I'm not on a housewife. That's what I'm saying. If I want to go back to my villa and sit in the blanket and watch some TV, I'm going to do that.

Different story. I'm going to feel great about my decision. Yeah, me too. I'd be snuggled up next to you, pal. Damn right. But they're playing truth or drink, which reveals this launched Tia into a different stratosphere of how much I love them. She's the best. She's phenomenal.

She's great. She's great TV to go and add Stacey. And then you add Tia. Just, I mean, great work. Great work. It makes me want to forgive them immediately for Angel. Because I never do this. But I do think this isn't Bravo's fault.

I think it's just Angel's fault. Yeah, you too. Yeah, I think it's self-inflicted wounds. But Tia has a crush on Rachel Maddow. Fucking hilarious. Amazing. So good. She's witty.

She looks great in a pantsuit. All right. I get it. Give him my number. No, don't do that. Don't do that. I'm just kidding. Why is that so crazy that I wouldn't like that woman?

It's like, you're talking me into it. Yeah. It was incredible. Absolutely incredible. Now I guess to Jazzy. And this was one of the dumbest questions I think I've ever heard in my life. She's about to marry Darius. They are about to be wed forever.

18 days. And you want to ask, no infractions right now, though? Hey, Michael Darby. What the first? fuck are we doing here? Why are we giving her the third degree? We have pictures of your ex-husband in his tidy whitties in a hotel room with another woman and you defended ad nauseum this man. No, he didn't do it. He said that he got drunk and fell asleep in her room. You don't get to ask these questions. We had to sit through your divorce for 10 years. And by the way,

the way that Jazzy handled this was perfect. It was great. Absolutely perfect because this is what we just saw Stacey do. Just be truthful. If somebody's going to give you a shady question, be a little truthful and stand in it and say, you know what? No, there isn't anymore. I think there was before, but not anymore. And we're getting married. Boom, done. Great, great response.

Shut up, Ashley. Like, the fact that that's the funniest thing with Ashley in particular, the routes that she decides to go are always directly impacting her. Like, there are things that she has gone through that she then uses against other people and doesn't see the hypocrisy in it. Because she sees this sense of, I've been. through it so I can speak on it because I know the experience, but somehow

she doesn't understand how ironic that is. Correct. That's what she's doing. And look, we're never going to forget. There used to be a time, and it was probably about four seasons ago at this point, that people used to just ignore Ashley. She used to have that Whitney role. I used to just say her and Whitney on Salt Lake are

the same person, because there's just a little fly that's going around asking shady questions, thinking that they're doing a lot, and people can just shoe them away. That's why we had to bring in Deborah and Sesame Street. And Deborah is Sesame Street. That's why we had to bring in her weird group of friends. You didn't have people to bounce things off of. Yep.

And I don't know how she got to the point that she's at right now, but it doesn't mean that we have to treat her any differently. We just need her to go back to her role of what she was good at. Last season, she had a good year. Last season she had a good year. She's getting a little too comfortable. That's that money. I just need to get those feathers ruffled.

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Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. Question goes to Angel. If you could kill anyone here, who would it be? This was a good move. Very good move. This was funny. This was fun.

She picks Giselle because, you know, I was so nice to you. Then you called me a catfish. Because here's the other thing. And it confirms everything you said last week as far as testing goes, Giselle, she doesn't care at all. She laughs at it.

She goes to a confessional. She's like, good. Like, you loosened up. You're having fun. Like, this is what I wanted to see. This is why I've been pressing you. Like,

everything she's doing is for a reason. It's calculated. Yep. She's trying to see how you respond. That's why she's warming up to Stacey. She's trying to rattle her and she's unrattelable. Take a note. Take a note.

And again, for Giselle to go to her confessional and just say that plain as day, this is good. This is a good bounce back. You did a good job. You have to realize in the moment, because even I said it while I was watching it, I'm like, oh, that's a good move. That's a way to ingratiate yourself in the group. Everyone's now laughing.

You're part of the group, and you're taking a little too far. You were standing up and screaming at her at one point, but you were laughing. It's fine. Everybody sees that you're having a good time. That's all anybody wants to see. This isn't, in spite of what you might think, I don't think this is a catty group of women that are going to judge you on every turn. No, they like to put. They shit on everybody.

They shit on everybody equally. They have a couple of shady comments. Some of them cross the line, and then that's when we get drama. But that's how this crew works. That's how it's always worked at this crew. That's what you have to realize. If you can just kind of roll with the punches like Stacy's doing, you'll be fine. You have to have thick skin in Potomac because they're going to poke.

It's a lot of fun because they're witty as shit. They say funny things. If you're going to be part of this crew, you have to be able to handle it. I don't think Angel can handle it as the next day is going to prove. But Wendy points something out, and this is why you don't leave Kearnah. You leave yourself open. That's what she did, because now Wendy gets to say something like, once Kearna left, Angel a Rose. Yep.

Yeah. And we can't deny that. Hard to say anything otherwise. Especially when the next scene, well, it's not the next scene, but we know later on. You know what happened right after that. Angel goes back to the room. And this is what I said last week. They're going to their villa one-on-one, and they're feeding into each other.

and they're saying all these negative things and they're giving each other this gravitas where it's like, yeah, fuck the rest of the group. It's like, no, you guys need to figure out a way forward with the rest of the group because sitting in your villa as the sad duo, as Wendy points out, is a bad look. Yeah. And honestly, it goes back

to the first episode when we met Angel. We were both confused. Why is this Kearnas friend? Yeah, now it makes sense. Now it makes a ton of sense. But again, oh man, I'm going to talk myself into blaming Bravo, aren't I? Probably.

Yeah, it probably was a bad call. I don't know what to do. No, just sit on it. Yeah, I'll just sit on it for a while. It's fluid. Yeah, it's fluid. Everyone goes to bed and we wake up the next morning with Giselle, Angel and Kiyana. Actually, just Angel and Kiarna and Giselle arrives to their villa.

Knock-de-knock. Walk on in. Like three times this episode. I don't know what this is. She repeats herself. Knock-knit-knock. Yeah. I'm here. Captain Savahoe, which is one of my favorite lines.

but Giselle walks in, Kearna lets you know, hey, we're just talking shit about you as she leaves. And I, at least, was under the impression that we had squashed this, that we were cool. That's what I thought too. So now Angel's crying. And I do think Giselle was genuine in her apology,

especially if you go back and know who Giselle is, this doesn't happen very often. No. So she sees that she's upset, and she's like, oh my God, look, it's a new day. I definitely didn't want to hurt you. and angel, and this was confusing, again, I don't know what their relationship is.

I was under the impression they just met. She's like, I looked at you like a big sister, and right away, because of what you said, like my whole entrance into this group is fucked. Two parts here. One, what? Giselle's, like, was it just immediately? Like, oh, she's kind of like the mentor of the group?

I think that's probably what it is because they didn't know each other before this. Okay. And then, two, she's not controlling your destiny with this group. She's challenging you to rise to the occasion, which you did. Yeah. And then now, and I'm not saying you can't be upset about what was said because it was shitty. Time is done.

Right. Done with it. Like, once you respond and you make a joke about it and you're, I don't even want to say it was self-deprecating because it really wasn't. You were just responding to Giselle in a funny way in the middle of a game. It's done. It's over. Everybody in the group views it as done and over. Even Tia, she's got here.

And like her excuse later, and I know she talks about it later, but I'll lump it in here, where she says, you know, I just had some time to sleep on it and I felt differently in the morning. I get that, but this is where you have to realize this is housewives. We have to move on quickly from things. Yeah. And honestly, I would say even for most groups of friends, if you're in a group of friends and you respond with a joke at some point, everybody now realizes, cool, we're good. We can move on.

You don't get to then wake up the next day, have a conversation with Kiarna and feel bad about it and bring it back up. Rehashing does not work. Ever. Rehashing never works. We never do this. You can't go back once you make a joke. It just never works. No.

And Giselle, you know, relates to her. She's like, because she talks about how she was a red carpet host and how important appearance was and how much that rattled her. And Giselle's like, look, I can, I can resonate with that. And by the way, and this, you can dissect a little more and what she body. Was she not? I don't know. I'm not going to say she was or was not. I think the whole thing was shady and mean.

I don't think that the Photoshop thing should have come up in front of everybody. It's like slightly in a gray area of being mean and shady and body shaming. Yeah. I just like it's not the time and place was the biggest issue for me and I'll stand on that. But she says you're a beautiful woman. And I was saying like who is this woman that I'm seeing on Instagram? So it's not the beautiful one I'm looking at now. I thought even after that, okay, we're squashed.

Yeah. Like, it was a little weird that we had to have this conversation, but if that's what Angel needed to move past it, fine. I'm not going to give you a hug. This is housewives, again. Yeah. Like, we need you. Giselle is offering a hug.

Give a hug back. We just need to be able to move on from it. Like, in real life, sure, fine. Your life, like, yeah, whatever. Call your husband, and I did like Bobby's reaction to it. He's like, good. What are you fucking kidding me? Like, they're all, like, 60-year-old women that probably do this face-toon stuff all the time.

I'll come down there and give him a piece of my mind. Okay, cool. That's fine. But that should be it. Yeah, have a vent-setsch with your husband and then squash. Yeah, just be dumb with it. Like, I don't really understand going back and forth. And again, like, yeah, it's easy for me to say from the third party just watching from over here.

But there's so many different things that you could have said at that time. And you could have even done it again. Giselle gave you another opportunity in the morning. You had the opportunity at night where you look like you squashed it. But she's still sitting there with you and she's not immediately just shewing you away. She's not immediately negating your feelings. She's listening to you. You now have another opportunity to say, I don't know why the fuck they picked that picture.

It wasn't me. I didn't post a picture and say, I'm on Potomac. I picked my picture myself. Why did they pick that picture? They could have picked this one or that one. And it would have been enough to let the whole thing blow over. Yeah. But you're actively now choosing.

And Kiarna is too, to hold on to this shit. I have a theory about that later. It never works. No, it doesn't. And to then go to a confessional and call the conversation shallow and unnecessary and then throw a dig in there. It's like, and I have a husband. Yeah. all right cool

Giselle doesn't and she doesn't hit like one of the best housewives on TV right now like some of these things can be written off as new person jitters

it's really really tough to do that when Tia is doing so well I know because you guys have been around for the same amount of time you know each other the same amount of time

and she is shining so perfectly and you're not and we could be somewhat yeah like look at this a little differently and be like all right we'll give you some time

but you're doing doing so much and you're commenting so much and trying to be shady, but also getting mad that people are being shady. Yeah. It doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Yeah, and every single conversation you try to bring back to yourself being upset about yesterday. And we're on to today. Yeah. We don't care anymore. It's a new day, as Giselle said. Yeah, she tried. Brand new day. Yeah, we just need you to move on. Knock-de-knock. New day. But the ladies all get together and Kiana and Ashley are talking. And Kiana's very upset on Angels' behalf. So now we have two people upset about the same thing that we thought was over.

And the bummer. It really is. It's just frustrating. The rest of the episode is so good. I know. They bummed me out so much. And Kearna points to her disconnect with Jazzy and Wendy, and she's upset that Wendy brought up what she had said. I was so confused because we don't know what was said.

I still don't know what's going on with that. Because even at the end of the episode, they talk about it. I don't know what you're talking about. They haven't said what they're talking about. Yeah. Is it going to be like some great reveal? No, it's not. My guess is that it's something off camera that we're not privy to yet.

The production doesn't even know yet at this point while we're watching this. So they can't force them to say exactly what it is. And they're going to do some big reveal and hope that it's big. And it's not going to be. Unless. Unless she alludes to the fact that she committed insurance fraud. Yeah. That would be a winner.

That would be the only one that would make any sense that would actually hit. And it's like, oh, fuck, yeah. we're getting this, that would be great. There is a 1.5% chance that that's what it is. If it happens, Kiarna changes her season entirely. Immediately changes her season. I don't think she can bring Angel with her, but she changes her season. No, she definitely can't, but that's Angel's fault, not Kiarna's.

And now Stacey's pointing out that it's bullshit that Kiarna wasn't there to celebrate Wendy. This is what I was saying. You leave yourself open. Now Stacey's commenting on it. That's a tough look. Angel arrives, and it's these comments. I appreciate Giselle's apology.

We're going to leave it at that. Why are you so combative? Why is everything such a big deal? I don't know, because I have a really hard time separating, not knowing anything about housewives and how they operate, and obviously watching millions of hours of housewives. This doesn't work. No.

And the fact that you got an apology should be a win. Yeah, especially from Giselle. Me screaming while watching this, shut up. It's done. She apologized. Move on. You don't get apologies from Housewives, ever. They rarely come, and when they do, you savor them.

And you move on. You move on. And if for whatever reason, Giselle isn't moving on, then you can point to the fact that she apologized and we were moving on. Yeah. That's the only thing you can do at this point. You don't get to hold on to this. No, and don't say things like Bobby's about to hop a plane.

The charter one. Yeah. She's, oh. Ooh. boo you know what i i think last week i did think that the starter comment was innocuous it's definitely not no it's certainly not but her only talking point is bobby massey yep that's her only comeback to everything and she talks about money in this episode five grand i got this my voice is cracking bobby yeah again mm-hmm but i got a thousand dollars from greg said put

a stack on it greg greg i think actually gave her like a hundred bucks He gave her a bunch of, he probably gave her a bunch of five, so it looked like more, you know. It was like six, five wrapped at a 20. Yeah, that's exactly what it was. We'll spend it all in one place. Bring me back my change. But Giselle recaps the night and Tia's confused. She's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I thought that this was all good.

I thought we, we turned it all around. We did too. He did too. So did Jiselle. And then Wendy, again, great season. It's unfortunate what's going on, but great season. and she points out there's a consistent cloud around those two. I was like, you're 100% correct.

They bring an air about them. Even when they're beefing with each other, it's just tough to get through. Yeah, and it's like this sad sister duo. And it's like, that's exactly what it is. You get these two bummers in the corner that are trying to make everything about them. And I know what they're doing. And this goes to what I said last week about them being in the villa.

The more that they're talking to each other one on one without outside influence, without the other ladies chiming in, they're getting emboldened that they're in the right. This is what happens. We've seen it in so many different shows. Tamara does it a lot. You get hooked on a storyline or something that you think is hitting. You think you're winning over the audience.

You're getting a sympathy vote or whatever. And you double down, triple down, quadruple down under the same thing. I see, I don't think this has anything to do with the show. No? I think these two people are just very miserable. Oh, okay. I think that they feel like they've been slighted. And once they feel like they're slighted,

they've been chin-checked by the group, so to speak, they're done. Okay. They're just kind of like together in their own misery, and they feel like, you know what, at least we have each other. And they're both talking about different issues, but they're feeding into each other in just vibes alone. Yeah. And it's tough.

Yeah, it's not great. And it doesn't bode well for the rest of the group, and it doesn't bode well for the show, because if we have to continue to do this, they're going to get annoyed with you two. And then you're alienated. And then you two are going to get annoyed with them, and then you're alienated. and then we have to endorse scenes of the two of you talking about it when we just want to get back to whatever the fuck Stacey's doing. Yeah, pretty much.

Way to sum it up. Writing's on the wall. So let's go to Alexander Hamilton's house, who was born in Nevis. I learned a lot. Then I've seen Hamilton. I didn't know he was born in Nevis. I did think that it's probably kind of funny now because there are, I'm sure, a lot of people

that are surprised that Alexander Hamilton is white. Yeah. Like just because of the Broadway? Yeah. Like they are like, wait a minute. it. Who the fuck's this guy? But of course, we have to talk about Angel again and this whole bullshit that we're

stuck on. And Jazzy says to Tia, because it's Tia Angel and Jazzy talking about it. And she's like, well, you acknowledged it, Tia. And Tia's like, well, yeah. I mean, I thought it, but I wouldn't say it. Which is kind of my point with the whole thing. It's like, Jazeel, like, if you want to bring it up, take her off to the side and be like, hey, calling it out in front of the group is kind of gross.

Yeah. And I stand by that. But we don't have a rebuttal, so let's go to football. Look, I was an OG Wag, not because Bobby was a starter for 10 years, but because I made an effort with the ladies. I don't believe you because we're not seeing that here. No, and again, this is what I'm saying. Like, I don't think this is for the show.

I think this is just who you are as a person. And if one person on the, I guess, whatever team he was playing for, one other Wag made a comment, you probably got salty about it. That's what I'm seeing here. So I don't believe that you were the person that approached all of them. You just told us the night before that you have a hard time approaching other people and getting into groups. So now you're telling us that you led the way and you were really good with that. Or maybe when you were a wag, it's year nine.

Bobby Massey is a name in the NFL. So when new wags come in and their husband is a one of the ropes because you're in a position of power. And they probably gravitate towards you because they understand that you've been there. Yeah. You're Bobby Massey's wife. Yeah. And I wouldn't say that if I wasn't watching what's going on right now and your inability to incorporate yourself into this group. Now we're painting a picture where you were very comfortable when Bobby Massey was a ninth year starter and you could show these new women the ropes.

But now that you're coming in from the ground floor, you don't like it. Right. You'd rather be in that top position, but you're not there and you have to work there and you can't work there because you're doing too much. You're demanding respect that you haven't earned from this group. That's the best way to put it. Yep. Correct. Yep.

and Tia and Jazzy point out there like, well, last night you were all bubbly. And then you got with Kiyana and you get all like bummed out. She's like, first of all, I wasn't bubbly. I was annoyed. Didn't look like it. Looked pretty bubbly to me. Then we recap the scene. You're going giving everybody hugs.

That to me says bubbly. But I love that they do that. And then they show like, rewind. And we go and what does she do immediately after? She walks into the room with Kiarna who's sitting there in a blanket. it, and they talk, and instead of Angel going, we squashed it, like we were laughing. It was mean, but I'm over it. Kiarna leads off with like, and Angel's like, me, yeah, and then it goes back to the

kind of like, and then they're like, yeah, and then they high five over it. And this is going to be the downfall of you both, is each other. Because you're feeding into this nonsense that you guys are in the right and you're not. This is boring, and we're over it. Unless, like you said, what happens with Kiarna and Wendy actually comes to fruition, Everything changes. I could immediately see Kiarna getting to the top and having all of that, not bringing Angel. Oh, yeah.

Like, they give me weird vibes as a friendship where they're happy to be miserable together. Yes. But one of them being above the other doesn't really play, and they're just going to butt heads. I could see that. Yeah. I could definitely see that. We'll see how it plays out. I'm actually really curious now that we came up with that theory.

But we get the curly girl crew, or clubhouse. Damn it. I just wrote CGC. This is one of my abbreviations don't Early girl crew, yeah But is it the curly G.C? I thought they named the house. No, that was the pink pussy house.

That's the other house. Oh. That's Ashley's. I don't think they named the curly house. I thought it was the curly girl. But then Ashley also had curly hair, so now I was really confused. Ashley also acknowledges that after saying,

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and maybe the worst king in British history. Vulgar History's new season is all about the Regency era, the balls, the gowns, and all the scandal. Listen to Vulgar History, Regency era, wherever you get podcasts. Wendy, and I'm glad she did this, brings back up the fact that Ashley blocked for Giselle last night. She was about to discuss her, man. Ashley, you saved her, and Ashley tries to do it again because she goes after her stage. She's like, well, you point the finger at Giselle. It's like, are you kidding me?

Giselle and you point the finger at Stacey. That's all you've been able to do thus far, Ashley. You haven't had anything else going this season. You just keep going after Stacey, which all of us hate because we love Stacey. And none of your points land either because Stacey's such a star that she just lets it roll off of shoulder. And she's like, I'm on to my next thing. I don't have time for you. But she says, you be lying to Stacey.

Now, as of now, all we know that she potentially lied about is T.J. Yep. She didn't lie about the. divorce as we've gotten proof of that. She didn't lie about Chris Samuels as far as we know and I don't think Ashley has a smoking gun there to be like, ha! I know you guys

banged. All she has is that he asked for her number. Yeah. She asked for his number, whatever it may have been. That's it. I guess what? If they did boink, who cares? They're both single. Doesn't matter. I also know for a fact that there's no way that Ashley's so close with Monique that this is a problem.

I don't think so either. She wouldn't have brought it up like that. Yeah. Just trying to be shady. And It didn't work. So move on. And to say then, because then Stacey goes, well, Giselle's lying too. And then somebody goes, well, she's lying by omission. It's different. Yeah.

We're playing the semantics game. I hate when we play the semantic game. I love that game here. It's the worst game to play on these shows. But apparently she lied about Chris Samuels, which again, and I'm glad that we don't get into it because Wendy steps in again and goes, no, no, no, no, no. Jazeel's got to answer for this. You can tell that she's uncomfortable.

and she actually lets us in a little bit. We don't ever get this. No. Ever. Not even on Love Hotel. The way that Wendy went about it was the right way to do it because she didn't do it in a weird, shady, Giselle's lying, she's doing this and that. She did it in a way of, I just want to see what's going on.

Just very curious about you because you're an empty nester now. You got a lot going on. Just answer this one simple question. Has he met the kids? Has he met your daughters? I'm not going to answer that. We know exactly what you're doing there. They know Giselle very well, and they know that she would much rather not talk about this,

but she will if you force her to talk about it. And that's all you need. And as long as you present it in a, I just want to see what's going on in your love life. I want to make sure that you're good. And Giselle starts talking a little bit more about how her dad just wanted to find the right shoe that fits or whatever it was. Comfortable. We can all just have a good time and talk about it. Everybody feels good, and we're good.

You just have to move Ashley out of the fucking way. Yeah, exactly. And Wendy even gives her more flowers. And she's like, you know, I know Giselle protects her heart. But as my friend, I'm so happy for you. I'm happy that you're happy. All these nice things. Even Giselle's like, wow, I think Wendy and I are actually friends.

So big moves happening here. Yep. Again, the timing sucks because she might be going to jail, allegedly. But she's having a great year. She really is, yeah. It's really funny. But let's get to lunch. I just need you to stop talking.

Mm-hmm. I'm having a good day. Bobby sent me $5,000. You're going to a flea market. What are we doing? Why are we talking about $5,000 cash drops? And I love that Giselle points. She goes, you know, Bobby this, Bobby that.

What about you, Angel? Like, we don't care. Yeah. I don't care about Bobby. We want to get to know you. It's like all she talks about, too. Like the reason that the Potomac ladies are who they are is because, as Jazeel says, they're bad bitches. They're standing their own two feet.

We don't need husbands on this show. We never have the only times husband have, wow, the only time husbands have gotten involved are the only times we've really hated this show. Yeah. Don't need them. Yeah, we definitely don't need them. And that's not like getting you any brownie points with the group because your husband gave you $5,000.

I don't care. Why are you bragging about it? And it's also $5,000. Who gives a shit? And you're going to a flea mark. Ashley's just got millions of dollars from her divorce settlement. We've only heard her say it once in a concessional. It's shocking, too, isn't it?

Very shocking. I don't know why I just put that together. I would prefer that. I would, yeah, I would actually prefer because of how much we endured with that divorce that she talks about how much money she got and how much better she is nonstop. And stop trying to plant seeds everywhere else. Just talk about your money. Yeah, do one or the other. I don't really care what you do, but like enough of both.

But for this, this is meaningless. You're going to a flea market in Nevis. As whoever says, I think it was, it was Wendy. It was Wendy again. These t-shirts are $12 and $35. What are we doing here? Name dropping, money dropping, charter plane dropping. Tia talks about her and Rob meeting.

They met in London, I guess, and the group asked, you know, what was their pushback? Because as we know, Tia is Nigerian royalty. And so Rob is not Nigerian. And she was like, you know, I thought it would be fine because he's black. But it turns out that even being black, there are still cultural differences there. For example, like how the kids talk to the parents. And we've heard about this from Wendy over the years as well. This was very insightful.

Yeah, it was. I learned a lot. And, you know, you get the, her daughter. She's like, can I bar your lip cloth? She's like, oh, bro, like, nah. And she's like, first of all, I'm not, bro, I'm mummy. I love her accent. It's so good.

Then, you know, with Rob, obviously, American kids speak to their parents differently. As you guys know at home as well. So it's just interesting. Like, here's the thing, and this is the difference, right? Because we're going to constantly do this all season because you have to because they're both newcomers. We want to learn more about Tia and her life. Yeah. I don't care about Angel in her life.

No. Because I haven't connected with it. And again, if Angel did well, yeah, it would be probably pretty interesting to hear how you traveled from place to place while he was going from team to team and how did that work and what was the dynamic with your families. That would be interesting to hear if you were doing well. Yeah, and you developed an outdoor, like, glamping thing. Sounds awesome. It's not that we're like obsessed with royalty or obsessed with what Tia was doing before because of what her background is. We're obsessed with her because we know what she's going through and we also enjoy her on the show.

how's it going over here? We've only met Rob once, and I want to know more about Ross. Same. Because of Tia. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. And now I don't care about Bobby Massey.

Correct. And he was a grateful. Which is a shame. Yep. But they're headed towards the Bachelorette evening, I think. I got confused because then we go to dinner after the party bus. Yeah, I was a little confused by this, too. We're doing more after the party bus?

I think we're doing more after the party bus and then the Bachelorette things the next day. Oh, you don't think it's after dinner. They're continuing bachelorette activities? I don't think so because they get changed. I think there's a. boat involved at some point. All right. Maybe it's a, I don't know.

That's just my question. But Wendy's feeling a little ill. She lets them know right now. Obviously, we see her later. She has to tap out. We go to the Artisan Village. And this is where you get the line. What are you going to buy at a flea market for $5,000?

She says that and then she gets sick. Angel, again, Bobby centric. Leads to a good moment, though, so I'm not going to hold it against her. She's like, I just texted Bobby sex. because when I get back you know he tagged or Bobby texted me sex

I don't someone texted somebody sex Again I don't care who who said it to who because I don't care and Stacy

it's like well what if I text and I'm going to call him this forever so just deal with it female Timo what if I text Timo sex I was as curious as everybody she's so fucking funny man she has no shame

no and I love that about her but like I wanted to know Yeah. It's like, what is your relationship like behind closed doors? So as she, and this is what I love about Stacey, too, she will lean into bits. Like, even stuff that is so outside of her comfort zone, she's like, ah, this will be funny. Yeah.

So she texts Timo, sex. And he responds with, you want sex? Sex with me? Question mark? With the selfie? Yeah. And he goes, I think you have the wrong number. Funny.

I'm on Stacey's side. I think he was joking around. I think he was joking around. thing is that serious. Ashley, of course, is like, ho-ho-ho. I got to go tell Giselle. Let me get out of here. I got to go find her. Where is she? Where is she? You'll never believe what just happens. Jezell just laughs it off.

Yeah, she's like, I love that Stacey comes running out right away. Stop talking about me. I know what you're doing. Because that's a funny reaction and that's a normal reaction. What Ashley's doing is not late-hearted. It's trying to bully Stacy, but she is unbullyable. Giselle's not even feeding into it. She just laughs it off and walks away. Yeah, it's just a funny moment. And it was.

Trying too hard enough, Ashley. Yeah, dude. I get no. hope by the way that this ends because when she was on watch what happens live she was still going after stacy so i think it's the whole season i just don't get it i don't get it either it's so tone deaf peanut butter and jillis all love her yeah that's all it's got to be you've been on the show for a long time and stacey's gotten more attention than you ever have on this show so and also andy loves stacey and does not really care about you uh well facts yep and then the ladies do a nice

little steel drum lesson they're playing the drums. Wendy, good sport comes up there and at least hits the drum a couple times. And then we get to Wendy in bed. And Giselle and Stacey bring her like a little care package with some ginger rail. Vell and Stacy. Did I say that I said that, right? Yeah, it is. Yeah. And this is one of those moments that I put an asterisk next to because of what you said. The vibe here you can tell, there is a mutual respect. Yep. Okay. Giselle definitely wants to poke and prod, but you're seeing that she's warming up to Stacey because Stacey is going through her crash course of like, can you take it, can you take it? She's starting to realize like she can. She will never flat out say ever that she's friends with Stacey, but she's

cool with Stacey. Definitely cool with Stacey. It goes back to last season when they were roomies. Like yeah, Stacey probably annoys Jaze, but in a funny way. It's like, I can tolerate you because I know you can go through a lot of stuff, but you're going to make me laugh every once in a while and people are going to take notice and be like oh look at that warm in your heart stacey's involved and stacey's going to point it out it's just it's going to always be like that and it's great yeah it's a great do they're dynamic those two now that we've gotten past the jazelle just like oh not that she was overdoing it's joselle and stacey first seats reunion it's got to be it's gonna be unless this kiana wendy or yeah wendy goes the reunion

i really hope that she sends it a video call like uh karen did last year though i hope she does it exactly like completely the same same green screen same green screen same outfit maybe Karen will let her come over and film right there no no not in a million years I get if this is a great season and then we bring Karen back into the fold that's what I'm really curious yeah very very curious because you know she's coming back but let's go to dinner with Mr. Sunshine

I love Mr. Sunshine I want to go there so bad yeah because of Sun, they just call them Sunshine. Yeah. Which makes me think of, remember the time. The name tags in Mr. Sunshine. Remember the Titans? Oh, yeah.

That's great. I remember the Titans. Yeah, I remember the Titans too. Yeah, me too. I do want a Killer B's shot, though. Same. I think it's just like rum punch. I looked it up.

I said it could be a Mezcal-based drink, which I wouldn't like. I hate mescal. But rum punch, I'm in. I want to try it. You could have punch. Thanks. Thanks, Dad.

You can smell my breath after. that used to be my go-to joke when we went out I would just grab people's drinks and smell them but anyway here we go again new scene and who speaks first other than Mr. Sunshine am I going to be on the menu again

I honestly I really thought that this was like a production trick because they do that for coming up show angel saying that nobody says a word like nah it's it's not that awkward it's not that silent they're going to make a joke or follow up and try to make her feel comfortable nope no the best thing that happens in this jazelle being joselle i know what you're doing angel i'm not going to give that to you instead i'm going to say eh the night's young you're not done yet you've just gotten started like that's the funniest part you think this is hard yeah this is child's point yeah they haven't even gotten into the real shit yet but jazelle brings up the the fact that Wendy was offended at Chiarna leaving. And it gets super confusing.

I almost said super confused because I'm so confused. Her reasoning is that she was tired and upset. Angel stayed, so again, that doesn't make a lot of sense. They all thought that Angel was good. And she's like, well, then she told me that she didn't have fun. And that's Stacy pointing that out. Now Angel goes, well, it was cool, but I'm still upset. And that's where we get the line of, you know, slept on it.

And I think Tia's like, and you woke up mad. She's like, yeah, exactly. It's like, okay, this is the best way to do it is what Tia says. She's like, look, if I was doing that, I would want a friend to tell me. And Jazz is like, you do that. You do that. She's like, oh, God, I do. She's like, oh, thank you.

Yeah, that was like the perfect exchange. Yeah. It was perfect. That's what we need. Yep. Right? And I agree, Angel, that the way that it was presented, I've said it. Five times now.

Yeah, it was fucked up. I'm with you. I agree. I think she should have pulled you the side, if anything, and mentioned it. Yeah. There was no reason to do

in front of the table, but you have to be able to roll with it. You can't get stuck on this because it's going to be your downfall for the entire season. And now Kianna's upset with Jazzy for bringing up the Wendy conversation that we don't know about.

Yeah. And Jazz is like, well, I know you did some shit. Are you jealous of me? Kiana's like, no. Say it. I don't know if I said it

But if I don't want to cop to it If I don't know And I just like Well that's a good point babe So you really want me to say it Yeah say it Seen Yeah

I think Pretty much I mean there was like a lot more Back and forth Between the two of them Oh Jacqueline's involved Who told Keanu That Jazzy thinks she's a snake

Yeah And that immediately to me I'm like we need to scrap This storyline Jacqueline's involved Yeah which means me is probably involved So stay away from that At all costs

And then they go back and forth again about like how many kids did he have when he was with this woman before he got married to you. Oh, well that's funny. And at least I've got a ring. It's kind of funny that her big sticking point was, you said that he had two babies on me. Was it one? Like,

still a baby. Something happens. It's honestly, until we find out exactly what the fuck's going on, it's just going to be confusing. All we know for a fact is that Wendy, between a 1 and 5 scale of how upset she'd be, she'd be at 8.4. Oh, yeah. A lot higher than 5, you know, 1 through 5 scale. That's like 3.4 higher.

It sure is. People say I can't do math good. Now, you're good at magnitudes. Thanks, bro. Let's get to some questions. From Ryan MacD. 15. Which chateau slash villa would you want to party with? The Curly Girl Club Clubhouse crew

I'm not sure who they are Yeah I'm not really sure who they are But that one above and beyond Yeah Because I do think that Ashley's probably fun So like Yeah I'd probably go to the Pink Pussy Palace

I think that one got cut off So I can't read that one Was it a good start Look it looks like it was K Lookerwood started off With something about Angel's husband But then it just kind of stopped Read it

And there's not All right fine I'm so sick of Angel Bringing her husband and everything, you know they don't care? I guess. Yeah, we might. And I feel like there's more there.

All right, here we go. From hi, my name is Sandy. Are Stacey and Timu faking it or are they so weird it works? I think they're weird. It works. Yeah, I think they're weird. And also, I don't care really. Yeah.

It doesn't matter. It's fun. Did they say Timu or Timu? Timu. Yay. Sticking. From L. Hodges 6. Are they going to move on from Picay?

on Stacy. Only Ashley is picking on Stacy now. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah. I hope that at some point Stacy gets her lick back and then we can kind of just have a little bit more balance because Ashley's annoying me. Yeah. And I think Jazeel, this was not bullying this episode. We saw, they turned a corner because we were calling that out. We didn't like the gang up. We didn't like the bullying because there was bullying going on. Yeah. We didn't see that this episode. I think Stacey's just too good and she wore Giselle down. And I also do think that Giselle was testing her.

I think that you nailed it last. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Giselle was definitely testing her. This is an interesting question from Lorraine Promo. 10-year starter on the Broncos or a bench warmer with a ring. 10-year starter. Bobby Massey? Bobby Massey or Darius. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, what? Let me just put this out here. Did Bobby Massey Winnering? Was he in Denver with Peyton Manning? I don't think he was there in 2016, or 2015, whatever year that was. Darius was on the practice squad. Yeah, he was a little different than a bench warmer.

Yeah, he did dress for the Super Bowl. He's also on the, technically on the Cowboys, but. Yeah, he dressed out for the Super Bowl, but I think most people do on that one? Yeah, he was doing the padded pants with no... He didn't have the shoulder pads? He didn't have shoulder pads. Was that because it was after the game,

he just put his jersey back on? I thought he was. actually out there for the Super Bowl. Maybe. I don't know. And look, we're not going to sit here at disparaging. And your starter got me, what did we say, Bobby Massey made like $55 million, I think? I thought there was a three in there, $53 million.

$53 million. Whatever. I'd rather have $53 million in the notoriety of playing, starting for 10 years. Put it this way. You can walk into a group of people at no football and drop Bobby Massey's name. And they'll be like, oh, yeah, he was great. Also. If we do that with Darius, they're going to go, who?

I'm not going to say this is going to happen, but there are a lot of Super Bowl rings. and circulation on various markets from Benchwarmers because they sell them so that they can make money. So, yeah, 10-year starter. I'm totally going to go see if there's an Eagle Super Bowl ring that we... There absolutely is.

Should we pull our money together? Yeah, why not? Put it right there. Probably like 20 grand. It's probably not like crazy. Yeah, we'll put it right up there. Okay. Josie Thibair, T-bear, I always say that.

I always pronounce the H. Do you think Giselle and Ashley should be on the next season of Potomac, yes. I'm not even saying that Ashley should go away. I just want her to change a little bit. Actually needs to be on this show.

She just needs to do what she did last year. It was so much better than this. I don't need power hungry, rich Ashley. I need rich carefree. I have so much money. Let's go do some stupid shit, Ashley. Ooh, from spammy. Not a question.

Intro help. Champagne Fluter Magouter. Wow, good for you. You're supposed to send me those and I use them and give them and give you credit. Yeah. That's phenomenal.

That's a really good one. Well done. Very nicely done. From Amanda Lynn Gamer, this season is giving me life compared to OC. That's a really good way to put it. It's giving us life. I'm happy we ended on this. We watched, both of us watched OC first.

Uh-huh. And we said in our last episode, OC felt, it was a 54-minute episode that felt like five and a half hours. Potomac was 42 minutes felt like five minutes. Yep. All right. We'll do one more. here, just looking for a good one.

All right. From Leanna Palazzo. Why do you think the Jazzy isn't a full-time housewife? A combination of things. I mean, a few things. They clearly had one spot. They wanted new blood. Well, yeah, they had three spots, technically. Oh, the other two. I'm talking about

Mia leaving. Emotion. Oh, Karen, Mia. And then they added an extra one. But, yeah, partially because they wanted to bring new blood in. And I think if it was between Kearnah and Jazzy, Kiara was always going to get that. And I think that's also, if you look back last year and that might have been a product of what was going on in her real life as far as, you know, I don't know, Super Bowl or trying to figure out shit with Darius or a combination of the two, Jazzy wasn't involved enough

last year to give her the nod. An NFL player versus Greg. Right. More interesting to go with. Greg's kind of interesting. Not in a good way. Well, I think it just comes down to Kiarna. had a bigger role last year.

We actually got invested in her storyline with Greg. Yeah. It makes the most sense. All right, let's give her the bump. Looking now, it seems pretty clear who they should have chosen. But they kept Jazzy around as a friend of. So if she does really well, swap. Yeah, and we weren't expecting that.

I think the big thing that we all need to remember, and I think a big reason we're not going a little lighter is the fact that Angel is involved. So she's dragging Kiana down as well. And Kiarna may be dragging her down. I think they're dragging each other down. Yep. But if Angel wasn't in the mix and Kiarna was just doing what she's doing, I would just be like,

I could be sophomore slump. She might be fine. I think because you have the duo doing it and they're feeding into each other so much, I don't know if we're going to see Kiana able to bounce back. Yeah. She has a much bigger hill to climb now than she did if she was just solo doing the same shit.

Correct. So, no, no. that's why. Yeah. Kiarna got the nod and not. Keep them all on the contract, though, so they can change things.

And I don't think that if they go into next season and all of a sudden, Jazzy's full time, Kiarna is a friend of or not on the show, no one would bat an eye. No, and I think that it makes really funny content if you demote Kiarna and promote Jazz. That would actually be hilarious.

So we would really love that. There's a free storyline right there. But all in all, it's a really solid season. We're just seeing some hiccups that you get in a reg. This is a regular good season of Housewives. which we're cool with. So I'm curious.

I got a lot of question marks that we need to fill in, and we will continue to do so. We will. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. Well, that's our show, bro. He's got to go.

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