Bros & Shows - Angie K. Wife Swap is TV GOLD (Wife Swap: Real Housewives Full Recap)

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

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Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host, Neil Russell, joined as always by the one and only off-grid McGrid. What's up, dude? This is the worst thing to happen to Lisa Barlow since sitting court side of the jazz game. Not getting picked for this? No, the fact that Angie got picked for this. Oh, yeah.

This is the best and most positive PR that a housewife could ever get. I agree. Well, I don't know about that. I agree, yes, because. of how she handled it. Oh, yeah, because of how she handled it. This could be the worst PR as well. For the other three remaining.

I really want to say two because there's one that I just am not interested in. Yeah, I know, Emily. The thing about Angie, and I figured this going into it, like, she's such a nice person overall that I figured she would be into the experience. I didn't think she was going to, like, turn her nose up at it. Yeah. Now, let me set it up for you at home if you haven't watched this show yet. Obviously, it's a classic wife swap.

scenario. But we're not going housewife to housewife, a shooter said, Angie K is swapping with Lindsay Flake. Lindsay and Tanner Flake live out in Chalice, Idaho, and they live off grid in the cool, like I wanted to swap. This is all like right up my alley. As soon as I saw where they lived, I knew that you would want to swap. Yeah. I have zero interest in that. But as far as the makes for a good episode and a good story, it was perfect. What was your thoughts going into it. When we actually saw the off-grid house,

we got the set up. You know, Angie's the one doing it. How did you think she was going to handle it? I thought there would be, now look, I did think that she would buy into it

because it just seems like that's the kind of person that she is. And when we had the pre-conversations, the pre-swap conversations between Angie and Sean, it seems like they were completely bought in. I expected a little bit more complaining from Angie, didn't see one.

Not one complaint. Like, yes. She didn't want to eat the ox tail. Yes, she didn't want to clean out the toilet. Fine. Those are normal things. But she didn't really complain. She bought into it fully.

And again, the way that she handled this, if you came away from this episode after watching and didn't like Angie an astronomically amount more, that astronomicalical amount more, astronomical amount more. If you came away from that episode and you don't love Angie a lot more than you did before, just completely change it. Yeah. Then there's something wrong with you because the way that she bought into it. And you can tell with the people that were associated with it.

These aren't camera-ready people that swapped. And Lindsay did a great job. We'll get into her and the way that she was dealing with everything back in Salt Lake City. But when Angie got there, this family didn't know what to expect. They all thought she was going to be prissy and just completely uptight and rich and snobby. And she wasn't. They bought into her right away. They all loved her.

Yeah, the kids initially said, what are you expecting? They're like spoiled little brat. And you would have been right about a lot of the other women on this show. But Angie is not, she never gets spoiled. But I thought the setup was interesting because you get to see, you know, her and Sean, amazing PR for Sean as well. I've always liked Sean. Like, I've never had an issue with him.

I love Sean now. Yeah. I love that he is like locked in with Elektra. They're hanging out. He wants to spend the quality time with her. And we interview Sean beforehand. It's like, well, what do you want out of this? It's like, well, I need Angie Kay to chill.

He needs to settle down a little. Sean calls his wife Angie Kay. Yeah, Angie Kay needs to chill, chillax. and hang with the fan a little bit more. He didn't actually say Angie K or relax. His underlying sentiment is she's always go, go, go. I want her to be able to take a step back and just kind of chill out. He says chill out a lot.

So that's the goal that he has for her. And it does seem like I know we see Angie do a lot. We don't really get to see like the housewife duties. Yeah. You know, like the cleaning the house. It was actually kind of confusing because I would have imagined that she would have had somebody cleaning her house. No, she's locked and doing all of those things.

She just does it the whole time. And I think it's also very funny because Sean wants her to take away from this experience. I need to hang out with my family a little bit more. Instead, what we do is we send her somewhere where she has to work. That's a good point. She has to do a lot of shit. No pun intended, because she does have to get rid of the shit from the toilet. But she has to do a lot and she kind of just puts that into motion right away.

Yeah, you know, you're doing it as a family. Everybody's got their duties and such. But that's also what, yeah, but that's also what Angie wants too. I guess she probably doesn't really want that because we saw in the first scene that she was cleaning something that Sean had already cleaned and a lecture and Sean were just laughing at her about it. But still, you would think that maybe she would go away and spend some time with another family and be like, wow, this makes me miss my own family, which it kind of did. But instead, she was also doing a lot of house duties. So it was very funny. But I think the caveat for it all is once the chores are done, there's no distress.

so it's all family time. Yeah, yeah. So you're forced to relax. Yeah, that's a good point. There's no screens. Right. No screens, no running water, no shower. The setup, I don't know.

I tried to rack my brain, like, what other housewife could have handled this one? Heather, maybe. So the funny thing is when I was thinking about a dream cast for this show, Heather and Terry came to mind right away. Because that would be, oh, you mean Heather Gay. I mean Heather Gay. Oh, I meant Heather Dubrow. Not that Heather Dubrow could handle it. this. But I want to see Heather in a situation like this and I want to see Terry in a

situation like that. I would love to see Terry get switched into that situation. Would have been like husband swap would have been funny. Yeah, that would have been really funny. I'm dreading the Joe Gorga swap. So that's the other thing that we have to talk about is there are three more episodes. We do know that things got a little shuffled because Wendy's, I guess they didn't really want the whole episode to just be about people ragging on Wendy and they thought that maybe by postponing it for a couple of days was going to change. change that? I don't know. At least they're not putting it in the vault with that. Oh, the Roney. Sorry, the Ultimate Girls Trip. Yeah. So we still are going to get that. We're

going to get that on Sunday. No idea when the Melissa episode airs because they said that's the one next up. Might be tonight for all I know. It's funny when you look at the cast. Obviously, Angie, Wendy, very interesting. See how that goes. Melissa, not excited about it. Emily, just zero interest. I don't. And like, it's weird, too, because I don't really like Melissa for that. matter. We've actually had a really good run here where we haven't had to talk about Jersey at all. I know. It's been really nice and calm and easy for us. But I'm still interested in seeing how Melissa and Joe handle it way more than I am about Emily and Shane. I think Melissa's swap is intriguing to me. Yeah. Like I'm curious to see how she handles the whole thing, who she gets swapped

with. Joe's involvement, I don't care. I really don't. Yeah, we already know how that's going to play out. He's going to be annoying and played up and try to do the most for the cameras. So I don't know. and I don't know when that airs either. Wendy is allegedly on Sunday, which was going to be Melissa, so like you said. It does kind of make sense that they would do because I think this one aired after Salt Lake

on Tuesday night. Oh, really? So then Potomac Sunday night, Wendy's right after. It would make sense. Jersey obviously doesn't have it. So then Emily would be next Thursday and they would just do it over like two weeks.

It's a very interesting release schedule that they don't just have it week to week. And I don't think that's necessarily Wendy's fault that they switch that around. It's just kind of weird that they did it this way. It's like a one-off show that they're like, Let's just plug it in.

I don't mind that. No, not at all. Actually, I think that's kind of over it right away within two weeks. Yeah, get it done. Get it done. But it's broken up into phases, sort of, because phase one is intro to the family and you follow the family rules, therefore laid by Angie wrote out, and I love that we get a call back to the scroll.

That was really funny from 2024. We break the scroll out, and it has all of Angie's rules. This is what Angie does. This is Angie's day. you got to follow it to a T, and you're not allowed to change anything. So let's start with phase one. Angie arriving at the house was, you had to have known, or maybe she wanted it to be like that ridiculous, like pulling up in heels.

I do think that she wanted it to be that ridiculous. She leaned into it, right? It's not like she knew that they lived off the grid. She just knew she was going to Idaho. It said in the letter that you live off grid. Yeah, but I don't think Angie really knows what that means. And it's actually kind of funny, too, because watching her talk to Sean and a lecture about it, they had questions.

Sean seemed to know what he was talking about, but immediately discredits himself a little bit later when he's like, oh, yeah, she's just like a poster child for REI. They don't have an REI within 100 miles of that place. So that's wrong. That's what they would hope to be. But anyway, they have an idea of how it works. I think that Angie's just Angie.

I mean, she's going through her closet looking at cowboy boots. She's got all these things. She's got her, do you want to say the word that you don't know how to say, the French designer word? Oh, I already forgot how it would. There you go. That was pretty good. Yeah. How did you say it before? You said it very weird before. For the record, I know fashion brands.

Givinci. I was called it, Kvinci. Yeah. Yeah, Jiv and she had all of those things. And obviously, you know, we're going to see a lot of that over the course of the show, I think, where they're going to be still doing their own thing and still showing up in heels to places that don't really need heels. I think it's just funny. And obviously, it makes for an incredible picture. It was. I mean, it's a great photo op, and you look at her standing in front of this. cabin. This big cabin in the middle of a valley in Idaho. It's a gorgeous property, but we're going through what that entails. And she notices the bathtub, for example. They don't have a shower, so they have a bathtub, which is like a fire tub, I believe. Yeah. I didn't see the

fire roaring underneath of it. No, so how you do it is you set it up the night before, light the fire overnight, and by the time you get to it in the morning, the fire settles so it's not too hot that you can't sit in it, but it's not like a brazen bowl type of situation. Or if you like, sit down on the bottom and burn your ass cheeks, you know? Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't do that. So you set it at night. By the time you come in the morning, it should be nice and warm for you to get in there.

But they had no running water either, which means no real toilets. So they have one of those like camper toilets where you just like flip. It's like a diaper genie we somized before we start recording. You like push a lever down and it just like trap doors shit into a trash can. Yeah. Yeah. So nothing she's ever used before. On the flip side, Lindsay now has a bidet.

She's walking through this house, which. it's such a drastic shift for these two because Angie's house is like a museum like a postmodern museum so going into that from where she came from is really funny too and I thought Lindsay handled herself so well on camera

yeah she really did it almost seems like she had been on camera before I love when she walks into the house and still doesn't know who it is and has to go track down the family photos and be like oh it's Angie okay that makes sense so she has some sort of understanding

of the housewives but not obviously to the extent that any of us do while we're watching this. She just kind of knows who's who and then takes a picture and looks at it and it's like, okay, here we go. I guess we're just doing this. Walking around was very funny, though. I know. Because she walks into a lecture's bedroom.

She's like, well, it's like the size of my entire house. And it's nicer than my entire house. But whatever, I'm going to make do. She seemed very comfortable right away. Yeah, she didn't seem like it was out of place, like obviously out of place, but not uncomfortably out of place. Like, she seemed like a good candidate for this show, which I want to. Do you think that they find these people?

Do they have to, like, apply? I would imagine you have to apply. They don't just pick you out of a hat. But that's what was interesting, because she clearly has some knowledge, only because when they're flipping through the message in the beginning, they find out, like, their location. Like, Andrew gets a text. It's like Chalice, Idaho.

And on the flip side, Lindsay gets a text and says Salt Lake. So she starts running through the housewife. She goes, oh, maybe it's Lisa Barlow. Maybe it's. So she knows Lisa, which if you know Salt Lake, without being like as far as we know Salt Lake, you would probably know Lisa. Yeah, for sure. So maybe she's like a fair weather fan kind of deal.

This would have been perfect, too, because Lisa did just say last week that she would love to be a farmer. I don't want to... It would have been incredible. There's no chance that she would have taken this as well as Andy. No, and I don't want to subject a family to Lisa Barlow. That's a good point. You know, like the poor husband would be ignored for three days. Yeah, that's a really good point, too.

Yeah, I don't get any cell service out here. Do you guys have Wi-Fi? Oh, God, that would be insufferable. Yeah, that would be a lot to deal with. But either way, Angie's walking through the house as well. As you said, she looks and goes through the bathroom, realizes that there's no running water. Immediately her entire brain just shifts to, how am I supposed to shower? What am I supposed to?

I have to get into that tub. And the little girl, Hazel, I think her name was, the five-year-old, was just running around. Like, you can get here, you can go to the hot springs. This is the best thing ever. You got options, baby. She was so funny, that little girl, because before, Before Angie shows up, she was not into it at all. Just didn't want her mom to leave, didn't want anything, wasn't going to take to Angie at all.

As soon as Angie gets there, she's attached at the hip. And Angie was great with it. She was great with all of the kids. And that was a big part of it, too. And she was in her confessional, like, you know, I missed this time with Elektra. Being on the floor with my baby was like my favorite time. So she gets to relive that for a few days. The boys, I thought, were hysterical because they're a little protective of mom.

Tanner is leaning into it. I don't think he was inappropriate or anything. No, not at all. It was just really funny, you know, he would make some comments. And they're like, well, whoa, dad. Yeah. You're married. Yeah.

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Now that's a mountain of entertainment. But yeah, I thought the kid's thing was interesting. I thought she handled all of that so well. And again, the reason they're off grid and she starts to learn a little bit about the family is Lindsay suffers from rheumatoid arthritis. So she changed her entire lifestyle. Found a much more anti-inflammatory diet, which led to let's grow her on food, which somehow led to let's just homestead. Yeah. I would love to know how we got from.

Yeah, because they were showing pictures of their house and it just looked like a normal suburban, like cookie cutter type. the house. And they sold it and moved out and went off grid. Yeah. So, well, good for that. I want to just know the steps to get there. Like, all right, let's eat organic. You know what? Fuck it. Let's just live off. They probably did what Lindsay was doing towards the end of the episode, like had an outside garden, much like you have. So you might be on that path right now. I'm working my way to get it off grid. Your wife is no, there's no chance you would ever do that. No, Dev doesn't want to be off grid. She's a good sport with everything. Like, she would go camping and stuff with. Sure, yeah. But yeah, as far as like full off grid life, probably not. Yeah, I'm not going

have to record a podcast off grid too yeah that would be difficult you know a little hot spot going yeah it's solar i've planned it out amelia you do have it really planned out and that is actually exactly what they're doing they run on solar energy out there too do you know how much sunlight my house gets i'm getting solar panters on my roof at some point yeah well it lindsay even said like all of the things that she's going through with all the chores she's steaming all of angie's clothes she's wiping everything down she goes over to the coolest dishwasher i've ever seen in my life that you knock on, just knock on it twice. Oh, yeah.

Sean's reaction to that was great. Oh, yeah, right. Just knock on it twice like you're knocking on the door. I thought he was fucking with me. I thought he was fucking with her. Like, I thought he was fucking with you too. Well, I thought he was fucking with the audience as a whole. And then I was like, are you messing with her?

And she literally knocks and boop. Yep. That was the coolest one. But the entire time that she's doing that, she's just talking constantly about, well, you know, this isn't how I would use water and this isn't how I would use electricity. Meanwhile, on the flip side, you get Angie. Well, it makes me think about, like, how much water I waste while I'm brushing my teeth. And it's like, whoa, look at this.

It's working. Good balance going on here. It was pretty crazy, like how everything kind of jelled and meshed, even though they were far apart. It's like, this is what we want you to get out of the experience. And she actually got that out of the experience. The answer was just, okay, cool. Yeah. Like, it wasn't, there was no pushback.

Which I think that this episode being the first one is probably the best course. and again, you know, not going back to the wedding thing, but maybe that's why they shuffled it a little bit because Angie fully bought it. And it's a good introduction for the audience, rather, to look at everything and be like, well, look, this is what you can get out of the experience. Look at Angie, she's such a good sport. Look at Lindsay.

She's great around cameras and doing all the things that Angie's going to do. And then when we get into the other housewives, maybe it's not so easy. Probably not. I imagine, I think Melissa will be a decent sport at the end of the day. I don't think that she's going to be, like, wildly old. overbearing. Wendy's a flip of a coin, honestly. You might get PR Wendy

the entire time, honestly. You probably will. I can't imagine it's going to be like anything. Genuendy. Yeah, genuine. That was, thank you. Emily's going to, like, I'm just worried about is she going to just say mean things to the husband

the whole time? They're just going to like, well, this is what I do to Shane. I'm really, and I know that our audience is going to make us watch it. I don't want to fucking touch that episode. 45 minutes of just Emily? No, thank you at all. How do you think she got picked?

I have no idea. The other question is, when did they film this? Because I do wonder if the whole camping trip in the beginning of the season was because Angie had such a good time. She was like, hey, I had a great time. She did say something along the lines of like,

you know, Sean wants us to go camping and he got a camper a while ago. But I do wonder if this is the actual root thing. Or she knew she was going off grid, despite her acting, like she didn't know what was going on. I was like, let me start with camping. Yeah, maybe, because I, again, I don't know when each thing was filmed. I'm sure we could figure that out.

I get the vibe that this was filmed before Salt Lake. I like to speculate more than actually looking it up. It would have been like an off-season activity, I would imagine. I would imagine, yeah, it's between the two seasons, is what I'm saying. Not after we finished filming. I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. But either way, again, she was a great sport.

So those first 24 hours, all the house rules, do all the things you have to do. the first night was kind of just like a bit of a wake-up call now obviously we don't like see them go to bed and like sleep and stuff like that which i was kind of curious about they don't sleep together no i know they don't sleep together but they didn't like we didn't get to see and i don't think that angie even bothered showering or bathing for those three days i would imagine she probably just used that hot spring when they went there yeah the hot spring um we did see her kind of digging into a bowl of water which i immediately said is that a good way to use that water. Are we sure? Yeah, if you're washing yourself. I guess. Yeah, if you're washing basin. Yeah. You never used a wash basin? No. Not an off the grid kind of guy. Mm, no. Very much on the grid. Some people will survive in the post-apocalyptic world. Not me. Take me out right away. I have no interest in a post-apocalyptic world. You're going to come to my house. Yeah, I won't make it to your house. It'll be done. I'll come get you. If I'm not, I'm going to be pissed. I'll come try to get you out a fair amount.

Well, docks you. Docks me up. But no. Post-al-apocalyptic world will be very funny because if I do make it, I'm going to be so angry the whole time. And you will because of that. Yeah. You're just going to be the pissed-off guy in the corner like, God, I want to be here. Yeah. And yet somehow you make it all the way to the end.

Yeah. What is the end? Dying of old age in a post-apocalyptic world. Yeah, probably dying from like radiation poisoning. Yeah. At like 45. Or I become a morton jail. Or you become a ghoul from fallout.

Yeah. I do have goolish tendency. Yeah, he could definitely be a ghoul. This is the season, too. Of ghouls? Oh, yeah, I guess Halloween. Yeah, ghouls, goblins, and ghosts. Where are we?

We get to see Angie carry out the poop bag. I'm still curious about hauling the water up the hill. This seems to me like a story that you hear from old heads all the time where it's like back in my day. Because they have a gator, which is the little like four-wheeler. Maybe there's no road to get to the hut. Maybe there's no road or. Or they just take it super far and they would have conserved gas for the gator, too. Oh, maybe.

So unless it's electric, but then you're conserving electricity. So either way, maybe it's just a conservation type of thing. We've got legs, don't we? Nah, that wouldn't be me. I agree with you. I do think it's a little played up because we did hear about it a couple times. Yeah. And it did seem like there was an easier way to do this, but no, maybe not.

Maybe not. I don't know. I just, I would use the vehicle to get it up and down that hill. But we get to see a little Angie activity. She's like, I want to go do something fun. They go to the hot spring with the fam, and then she wants to go out to get a meal. Treat these kids to a meal. We find out they've never had dessert.

Bullshit. You think? I'm called bullshit on that kid. They've never ordered dessert. Yeah, but I'm still calling bullshit on that kid. I think that is number one. That kid is what, like 10 years old, 12 maybe? I don't know.

They didn't give us the ages for everybody, just Hazel. but that kid is playing it up. Oh, I've got a new mom. Let me just tell her I've never had dessert before. Come on, let's just do it. And Tanner's just like fucking whatever. I don't care. He was a good sport, too.

He was a very good sport. Everybody was really bought in this episode, and that was very appreciated by me. But yeah, so that's when the rules switch. And obviously on the other side, we've got Lindsay for that whole second day, doing all the Angie stuff, you know, getting her hair done, feeling pretty, getting some nails done, just having a good time. You can tell this was probably the most uncomfortable that she was.

She's like, yeah, this isn't me. I'm not doing this shit. I was curious if she was going to, like, get swayed at some point. Like, you know what, I kind of like this. Yeah, I was thinking that. I was actually thinking after the first night when she finished all of her chores, that she was going to go sit with Sean and a lecture and, like, watch TV. I was hoping that she was going to stop doing the chores and go sit.

Yeah, like halfway through the chores, just be like, fuck this. Why am I steaming a t-shirt? Let me go sit on the couch with my fake husband and daughter and just watch TV. That sounds way better. It means like they were watching something cool. It has a great cast. I don't know what it was. Great cast.

Who knows what it was. But either way, not a whole lot happens over there. And yeah, day three, we're playing under my rules now. Damn right. We're going to do exactly what I want to do. And what Angie wants to do is take the whole damn family out to dinner. Mm-hmm. Or lunch.

It was lunch because then they go out, they go out for a night in the big city, as Tanner says. And on the flip side, like you said, we're going off grid. We got some tents in the backyard. We got a red snapper. We're going to gut a fish. And we get an appearance from Mary. What an appearance it was. Incredible.

I'm so glad that they got her to go. Yeah. I don't even care if they had to pay her a shitload of money for that one scene. That was perfect. And the timing, it was almost like a movie when she walks out the door and they all like simultaneously spin around. They're like, hey, as they're gutting a red scorer. God, somebody's here. Yeah.

She's like, oh. Somebody stopped this crazy lady gutting a fish. Sean seems into it I think he's stoked about the off-grid lifestyle To a certain extent Obviously not all the way Because they couldn't make it through the night He wants to go hiking and camping for a weekend

Glamping Yeah He wants to glamp a little bit And clean a fish Correct But not clean all of the fish And this is actually where my theory Of when this was filmed

And what happened afterwards started When Mary walks out And sees yet again Which we saw in the first episode of Salt Lake That a fish is being cleaned And then she has all these questions Doesn't want to touch it. Loves Red Snapper.

But no, I'm not doing it. I don't need to see the babies. I don't need to see the uterus of the fish. She's just making shit up at this point. It was very funny. I'm trying to map it out now. Given her reaction of fly fishing, you think she would have referenced this

if this had been filmed prior. Yeah. But it's Mary. I've seen this before. Yeah, that's a good point. We do know it's summer because it's 95 degrees. Correct. We know that they film in the winter

and spring months in Salt Lake. I'm going to venture and say after, actually. I'm going to say that this was filmed before, but who knows? That's the thing is it was a weekend of shooting. So they could have had this whole thing edited within like two months. Yeah, that's a good point, too. So we probably will find out at some point, but, you know, it's not really that important. We're just stuck on it.

I just think that we would get a reference of it during the season from somebody somewhere, even if it's just to plug the show. Yeah, that's a good point. Or, but again, on the other side, we could have gotten a reference from Angie about like, oh, yeah, this is kind of like when I went camping. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, so either way, no matter what, we didn't get a reference either way. But this is the shit that we get stuck on, guys. It's upsetting.

It's upsetting. We need to know. It has no correlation whatsoever, but damn it, we have to know. Got it piss me off. But anyway, Lindsay wants everybody to live on the grid, or off the grid, rather, with tents outside, no screens. I love it that they're setting up the tents and a lecture still got like her phone, just kind of help me playing TikTok videos or something. She was like, yeah, I'm going to go put this inside the lecture. It was a pretty good sport.

I mean, she's a teenager. The fact that she bought in at all is impressive for a teenager. She was a good sport. Like with the garden, she finally leaned into it. And you could tell, I don't even think it had anything to do with the activities they were doing. No. I think that was just teen angst, like, oh, I don't want to do this. Fine.

And then she does the garden. She's like, I mean, it's kind of fun, I guess. Kind of fun, I guess. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it's not like they actually slept outside. They made it to midnight They gave it the old college try Gave it till midnight

They were out there for about an hour Trying to fall asleep Nope not working Night dad See you later I'm going to my room She went or he went inside too Yeah no they both went

Yeah they both went It looks like Lindsay stayed overnight Which is kind of funny Probably But either way Very funny stuff The main course here is Angie and Tanner's date night

My God What an experience that looks like I want to go to that bar Real bad That bar rocks That bar was incredible the fact that there were two dogs just sitting in the bar stools. So cool.

That used to be just a painting in my brain. Now it's real. Dude, that bar is called Bux. B-U-X. B-U-X. B-U-X. And that place looked fucking awesome. Maybe we have to take a road trip. I would love to.

Are you kidding me? We can go fishing and hunting in Idaho and then go to that bar and I'll watch you drink. That sounds like a blast. Sign me up. Yeah. But watching them out together was funny. you can tell that he hasn't been out in a minute he's fucking gassed up they're drinking just straight whiskey on the rocks which is so funny and they're dancing together and his realization is just because we're off the grid doesn't mean i can't plug in every now and then and i need to take my wife country dancing fuck yeah i love that it's a great great realization there sir it was and angie had a great time she did it was funny she was dancing she was having fun she was singing along she's the what did he say the uh The classiest little thing to ever walk into this park?

It's just thing ever walked into this. Uh-huh. And he calls that place. That's my favorite part. It's a genuinely sweet. He's like, I gotta go out in the city more often. It's like, big city living. Big city living.

Down at books. Well, I don't blame them. That looks like a great time. It did. It looked like a blast. You know what's better than the one big thing? Two big things. Exactly.

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snackologist we were born to be. Mates is back. Mike and Tom, eat snacks. Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. Call us. I look like a really good time. And after that, we get like the sum up of everything, like what we learn from this whole thing. We go to Sean, check in with Sean, who again, And probably one of my favorite house husbands now. Just watching him be a normal dude was pretty great, honestly. Watching him do his thing at the salon. Yep.

Watching him hang out with Elektra. And he gets one ding, one strike. Because as he's going through this realization of, you know what, I don't think that I do pay enough attention to what Angie does around here. And Lindsay helps him with that realization as well, which is cool of her to be like, you know, in this note, it just seems like she does a lot. It doesn't feel appreciated all the time. she was crying while reading the scroll

about Angie not feeling appreciated and Sean's like you know what you're right I take it as she just can't slow down but at the same time it's a lot of upkeep for this house he was so close to just being like great great realizations top the bottom

he's like you know maybe the the upkeep and the nagging is worth it I'm like ah there's so many different words we could have used the upkeep and the I don't know throw in any word honestly any word but nagging persistence persistence yeah uh inability to turn off obsessiveness yeah I guess that's a little it's toe in the line it's still better than nagging still better than nagging yeah

whatever it could have been yeah one little thing one thing there but all and all good realization we go to Angie who's saying goodbye to everybody and it's giving out Greek sunglasses I want a pair thank God yeah we had to get one I'm so happy that they're there. That's a two-for. Uh-huh. Big sunglasses and the Greek flag. Yep.

You've been officially Angie Kade. And I think that was also my favorite part of Lindsay going through her shit. I was like, what do you need all these big sunglasses for? It's a little look. I like, Angie's explanation for them. You know, sometimes my eyes are just a little puffy, so I'll wear these big ones, just cover them up. Like, all right. That makes sense to me.

Totally works. But you're seeing a different Angie at the end of this. She has no makeup on. She still looks fantastic. She's leaned into this experience. She's emotional. She loved the kids. She got a lot out of it.

She's like, you know, the thing that I learned is, one, like, I'm standing here barefaced and I'm not bugging about it. I'm like, who cares? And I need to be able to check out and just hang out with my family sometimes and just be present. I think that sums up everything that she got out of this is like, be present. Yeah. Which is beautiful.

Yeah, it was beautiful. And obviously, the two of them do get back together in Angie's house. Not really sure which one I would have preferred, either. Angie's staying there and Lindsay coming home. I think that one would have been better. But obviously it's easy to say because we didn't get that. So we get the meeting up in Salt Lake City, just kind of going over everything.

And again, Lindsay was great. Yeah, she was. She had a great camera presence. She didn't stutter. She wasn't nervous. She was just kind of talking with a friend at this point. And they hadn't even met. That was the best part.

They hadn't met yet. And they felt like they knew each other. In my head, I was literally going. I hope that they stay in touch. I think they do. Dev actually told us before that she had the whole family over to watch the show.

They all came down to Salt Lake and then Mary and Heather came over to watch it too. So that was just this week. How nice is that? That's so nice. Yeah, I want them to be like this weird modern family now

where they all just hang out all the time and then... I want that to be a future Salt Lake City trip. Oh, fuck yeah. They're going to Idaho. And they just like camp out. Oh, by the way, look who's here.

Lindsay and Tanner. That would be so sick. Yeah. And then pay Lindsay and Tanner a big fat check. Yeah, for living off land. Yeah. Well, no, like to be on the show, just be like, bang, here's 50 grand. They would probably make that stretch for like five years.

Oh, my God, yeah. That would be sick. I just want them to be taken care of because I really liked everybody in their family. And watching those two at the end was so sweet. That's what the shocking part for me was. How much substance is in this show? It's like, it's emotional. There's, there's perspective.

It's all about balance, gratitude, all these crazy lessons that they've learned in, like, a three-day, 42-minute episode. But it, like, it clicked. And when they're talking to each other, you know, Angie goes first, she's like, look, when I showed up, I saw the bathtub. Like, I thought sad. And this was such a good line. She's like, but then, like, after staying there, I realized these kids have everything. Like, that's beautiful. On the flip side, Lindsay's like, I thought I was going to be hanging out sipping margaritas all day.

She's like, but I can't imagine, like, the cameras you always have to be on, all the stuff you do all day. That was a good little fourth wall break, too. It was being like, you must be exhausted with cameras following you around all the time. That's not something that we usually hear. Usually it's the opposite. Usually it's, oh, who gives a shit? Like, oh, you get paid a ton of money to have cameras follow you around. Whoop.

No, I was acknowledging how hard it must be to be always on. Uh-huh. Yeah, I thought that both perspectives were great. It was impressive, the two of them. I just don't see any other housewife. No, I don't. I played that game. And again, the only one that I could come up with was Heather and Terry.

and that was just because I think it would be funny. That'd be funny. But the rest, I just can't see them doing it. I'm really racking my brain here. I don't give a good sport. Giselle would be a good sport for sure. But it wouldn't be like this. She wouldn't be buying into it like Angie is.

I don't think so either. I think she'd just be a good sport and funny. I mean, there are like, I'm sure there's a couple of housewives that you could probably plug and play, but it wouldn't be that interesting. Like, Angie Kay is a very captivating person. She's huge right now on the best show on Bravo. So that helps obviously a lot. Yeah, you could throw like a Gina in there and she'd be fine, but I don't care what

Gina's doing. Much like I don't care what Emily's doing. Yeah. And yet she gets me. Every one of our episodes just turn into an OC bash. I can't believe that show's still fucking on. I saw a meme and it was the Rose from Titanic. It's been 84 years.

I see it all the time now, actually, because people will tweet about it. And then the quote tweets will just be like, this show's still on. The season's still going. What are we doing here? Anyway, let's move away from O.C. But yes, very, very fun. I also love the structure of the show, 42 minutes for a whole weekend, and we're done. Get it and move on.

They could have milked this to like a three-part series. It's got an three episodes. It's not exactly my thought. This could have been three episodes of Just Angie, three more episodes. They could have gotten 12 episodes out of this easily. Instead, they didn't do that. They did the thing that Bravo never does, which is, let's just, condense this, make it highly entertaining

for 42 minutes, and then be done. It's pretty cool. It worked. It worked. And it makes me cautiously optimistic for the rest of this series. I think it's going to do really well. I mean, a lot of people are talking about this episode. A lot of people are talking about Angie Kay, the show in general.

I do hope that they have the right cast for this first season. That's where I'm concerned. Melissa can be concerning. Emily's going to be terrible. I know that Wendy is a wild card. If Wendy is good enough, and Melissa's okay, you're okay. And this will get a second season.

And then we can start playing the matchmaker. We can start playing fantasy of who we want for the second season. What works the best? What are we going to do? So it's going to be very interesting to just keep an eye to that. Obviously, it's all dependent on ratings. So the Melissa episode's going to do well, but just because it's Jersey. Yeah, and it's been a while since Jersey's been on the screen.

That one will do well. I just wanted to hit the same. And it might be, it's going to be different just because it's Melissa. Yeah. But, and Joe's involved, which is going to be fucking irritating. But I do think that they're on to something here. I will say this, this show does not get a second season or even a discussion of more seasons without this episode being what it was. Correct.

Very good point. This premiere put them in such a good spot. Yeah. Like, I was baffled with how much I enjoyed it. No, so was I. Honestly. Let's get to some questions. Yeah.

Let's see what kind of questions. our fans have. Yep. That's a familiar question. From Bella GR 1985, did steal cry? I almost did. At the end, yeah, when Angie was crying,

I got choked up. Yeah, I was surprised at that. I was like, wow, what the fuck? It's a 42-minute, like, one-off episode. I feel like I've known this family for both sides. So, yeah, I did get choked up.

Sometimes it works. You didn't even notice a shooter was with me when it was ending. Yeah, I wasn't paying attention. really. I was playing with the baby. From J. Bay, the Hutt 713, do you think this was the inspiration for the RV trip?

It could have been. We were trying to figure out the timeline. We don't know. Depends on when it was filmed, and I will not look it up. No, that's a good point. This is not a swap question. Why is Brittany so tone-deaf when it comes to her daughter? Wrong show, Michelle. No, it's fascinating. I mean, I did just put these up like an hour and a half ago, and who knows how many people have watched it.

And an unrelated question from E. Elizabeth 13, guys, opinions on Jays versus Dodgers from a Jays fan. If the Dodgers win, baseball is ruins. If the Jays win, it's back on. Yeah, Jays, I'm cool with winning the Dodgers bought their roster. It's not fun that the team that just spent the most money with absolutely no regard for the salary cap and the penalty they have to pay for it. Also, them winning in a sweep. Somebody said, I think it was Jeff Passa. Passan?

I never know how to say his last name. He did say that that has huge ramifications in the collective bargaining agreement that's going to be up in 2028. If the Dodgers win? Uh-huh. No, it already has because they already got to the World Series. And in sweeping fashion, it's going to fuck everything up. It's ridiculous.

Like, this is not the NBA. You can't build super teams. Like, it's fucking bullshit. They tried to do that with the luxury tax and the salary cap. And the Dodgers are so wealthy. They're like, we don't care. We're going to go sign the greatest players out of Japan. We're going to sign the greatest players in the U.S.

We're going to sign the greatest players from the Dominican. And we're going to have an absolute super team that you have to be. That's why it was the fact that the Phillies were seven and three against them going in to the World Series. I was like, are the NLDS. I was like, we actually are the only team that can take these guys out. And then we did what we did. Yeah. Yeah, pretty embarrassing.

Thanks for bringing it up. up that question was. I haven't talked about baseball since that day. Yeah, I haven't actually, I watched Game 7 on Friday night, but I haven't watched it on Monday night. Won't do it. Yeah. Don't care. I hear you.

But anyway, so we don't know when these episodes are coming out, so we can't tell you when to expect them. But we will try to get them out close to when they air? Sure. You know, our schedule right now is ridiculous. Yeah, it's all over the place. But, yeah, great show. Wasn't expecting it. Angie Kay, 10 out of 10, Lindsay Flake, 10 out of 10.

And the family's involved 10 out of 10. You're right, though. Like, they should start doing this with struggling housewives. Yeah. And it's like, hey, here's your make or break. They're either going to love you after this or you're officially done. Yep. Well, stay tuned for the next one.

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