Bros & Shows - Are Mia and Jaqueline Ruining RHOP? (RHOP Full Recap)

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

What's up Bros? Potomac is back and we are not thrilled with where its gone late in the season. For the most part this season has been solid and has done a good job getting Potomac back to where it used to be. However in the last couple of weeks and into this week, the Mia storyline has really begun to bog the show down. In this episode, it starts out with Mia tracking down her kids. While of course we are sympathetic to not knowing where your kids are, as Ashley says so well in this episode, there are just always discrepancies when it comes to Mia's stories. While shopping in Panama City, Ashley calls out Mia for her treatment of Gizelle and Gizelle's daughters from the night before. Instead of taking accountability, Mia simply says IDGAF... causing Ashley to step back from their friendship. The ladies go rum tasting and once again we are forced to sit through a discussion of Jaqueline and Mia sharing men. I think we speak for everyone when we say we truly do not care. If that's what you're into, great, no kink shaming here. But we do not need to discuss it anymore and Jaqueline becoming Mia's mouthpiece for everything has gotten so tired that this show has stalled almost entirely. We get more info on Kierna and Greg and while we are still out on Greg, she does seem happy and excited to move into their newly built house in 4.5 weeks. Dinner erupts into another battle against Mia and Jaqueline because multiple ladies question her behavior and choices regarding Inc, Gordon and the kids. She doesnt do herself any favors when she says things like shes going to see Inc immediately after landing from Panama when just 12 hours ago you werent sure where your kids were... Gizelle says her piece as well but it all seems to fall on deaf ears. We will see if they can right the ship before we get to the reunion episodes but we need the actual stars of RHOP to step up and finish strong because all in all this was an enjoyable season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody.

For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Bros and Shows. I got to start working on our Bros and Shows. What's up, dude? Not a lot. I feel like it's been like a month since we've been in the studio. It might actually be close to. Holidays, man.

Yeah, holidays kick the shit out of us. I love, I figured it out today because I have a love-hate relationship with the holidays. Yep. Welcome to the holiday cast. I love the moments. Right. The memories. They're irreplaceable.

They're incredible. The holidays overall kind of suck when you're older. Yeah. There's just a lot of doing stuff, traveling. You're tired. It's the logistics that really suck. Yeah, I'm tired all the time. Just constantly tired.

didn't help that I went on vacation for 10 days in the middle of the holiday season, but won't do that again. Yeah, I'm starting to feel like a human again. Yeah, I'm feeling a little bit more recharged. Granted, I still have a three-month-old, so I still don't feel totally human. She's sleeping really well, so I can't complain about that. But we're not here to talk about the holidays are over. Get over at everybody. Move on. Turn the page. Cut the court. We're here. Surprise you didn't wish everybody a happy New Year again. That was our first podcast in 2020. and you're acting like I'm one of those people that does it for the entire month of January.

I don't like that either. I think that's stupid. I think that for our first cast, that's what I'm calling them now. Past? Holy fuck, that word sucks. I hate, I hate, I want to stop and restart right now. What an, oh, that's awful. How crudy.

So many choices there, and cast isn't one of them. It's just, it's not even the worst of them all. It's just not on the list. That sounds awful. Anyway, it was our first pod Of the year Jesus Christ Fucking streamers

Yeah, dude, our first Twitch of the year No, it was our first podcast of the year So I thought that made sense I'm not going to say it every time But we're here to talk Potomac Or as I like to call it the Mia Thornton show apparently But I have Something in this room that was given to me

By one of them, Dev's cousins You know her well Yep, yep Shout out Cody I need you to find it because it pertains to this show. Cold. Cold. Warmer.

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bugs in the background in honor of T.J. and Stacey. Isn't that nice? Yeah. So that'll remind us forever. He's never going anywhere. So now whenever you're remote podcasting and I say, are you alone, you say, no, I'm never alone. I've got bugs here in my case.

Yeah. I got bugs locked up. Uh-huh. Yep. So I thought that's a lot, TJ. You ruined Bugs Bunny for us. You can blame Cody. So yeah, there you go.

Bugs is in the studio with us to talk about Potomac. And before we get into it, there's been a lot of discussion about Potomac. There has been an article written by essence about Mia's involvement in the show, dragging the show down. Now, what are your thoughts and feelings on Mia with this show with this season? I feel like I wrote that article. Yeah, right. Like, it brought me back to two years ago, three years ago. Obviously last year, the last season that they had was a dumpster fire to begin with, and everybody was to blame.

But before that, when it was still okay slash pretty good sometimes, the only fault in the entire cast was Mia. The only fault in their stars. The only fault in their stars, yeah, I didn't want to say that because it's a really sad book. But, yeah. You're going to laugh twice because of how this story starts when I was playing baseball. Australia. We were on cross-country flight, and we used to booze pretty hard on those trips. Yeah?

And I was hammered, and I hadn't seen a Faultner Stars. So it was on the movie thing. You can fucking love Eddie Red Bain. I was like, oh, that's not Eddie Red Bain, is it? No. What? Fultonar Stars is Shailene Woodley? It's Shailene Woodley, and what's his nuts?

He was in, like, the Divergent movies, and I think he got in trouble for some online buying stuff. Oh. What's his name? Whatever. It doesn't matter. The point is... No, no, no, no.

Fuck, what's it? It's a weird name. Just watch the Divergent movies recently. It's the brother. It's Shalene Woodley's brother in the Divergent movies. Oh, Ansel Elgore. There you go. Yeah, yeah, okay.

So he's in it. He's the one with cancer. You know, there's not a third movie to that? They just stopped production because the second one was so bad. Divergent? Yeah. No, it's divergent. Divergent?

Insurgent. Insurgent. There's three. There was supposed to be... I know. No. There's supposed to be another one, whatever the fuck it was. I watched all of them.

I was excited to watch the last one just to see how it ended. You know, you have to see how something is, even if it sucks. And then there was none. I looked it up, and it was just, it was in production, and then they just canceled it. All those post-apocalyptic, like, dystopian coming-of-age teen movies, watched all of them. We'll always watch all of them. I don't know what it is about those fucking movies.

But back to my main point, I was hammered watching a fault in our stars on an airplane, cross-country in Australia, sobbing. like uncontrollably ugly crying. Yep. So that's my relationship with that movie. But there's nothing like a drunk ugly cry too. No, it was bad. It was bad.

It was a bad night. But anyway, back to your point of the essence article. Yeah, so I felt like we wrote that about three years ago. So I believed every word of it. I felt every word of it. And one, when it came back, obviously Bravo's been off the air for fucking a month, it seems like. I forgot they were even in Panama. I don't know to say Costa Rica at first, but they were in Panama.

That's because I forgot where they were because it hasn't been on in weeks. we start off immediately with me, and I'm like, okay, all right. Throughout the entire episode, I tried to just isolate Mia. I've been trying to do that because she ruins the show for me. And you just can't because it seems like every storyline hinges on what Mia is going to say or do or whatever's going to happen. And she is bringing the show down. She really is. Her and her stupid-ass minion, and it's not just a problem of, all right, then get rid of Jacqueline.

Like, why did they empower her in the cast? Why do they make Mia more, I guess, safe, if you will? Because no matter what she does, Jacqueline's always going to step up and protect her, as we see in this episode. So you can't just get rid of Jacqueline anymore. You have to get rid of Mia. There's just nothing here. I get that, like, there's enough captivation of Ink and Gordon and the kids and everything. There's not.

If you got rid of it, the rest of the girls would thrive. She brings them down. So I do believe every word of the essence article. Yeah, I think that you have a cast on Potomac now with the newbies in there. Stacey, Jazzy, Chiarna, they're great, they're interesting. They know how to do this show well. They're captivating when they're on screen.

They're getting involved in some of the bullshit. They're having a very strong first season. I want to highlight them. I love this new role that Giselson. I love this new role that Wendy's in. They're all firing on all cylinders. And then you come back every single time to Mia and this bullshit with her kids and Ink and Gordon.

I don't care about that. I think that it's a sub-part. plot that's not worth our time because first and foremost, I don't believe half of it. Neither does the cast. So we talked about in episode one, like, we shouldn't be privy to this information. These kids are going to see this one day. This is fucked up. I'm glad that the group is now calling that out, like at the dinner.

But there's so much more in this show than Mia and Jacqueline. And their stupid bullshit that they bring along with it. I want them to focus on the new girls. I want them to focus on Giselle. I don't need them to focus on Karen, especially given how she's, treating this whole DUI thing. I think it's deplorable. I don't want to talk about it anymore. But everyone else on this show is doing their job and they're doing it really well and we get bogged down by this unnecessary Mia and Jacqueline threesome ink talk going down like four play

in the show. I don't give a shit. It's not like, oh my God, that's wild. It's like, I don't want to hear this. I don't care about this. Let's talk about the other ladies because they're doing a tremendous job. Stacey is an all-timer newcomer. Yeah. Like in she brings such a weird perspective to housewife shows that we haven't seen in the past. Usually they try too hard. Usually they're just not funny or they're not authentic, whatever it might be. Stacey is all of that. She's authentic.

She is funny, unironically. In her own way. She's not even trying to be. And she is very funny. And she just brings this weird new dynamic to the group that I feel like is getting overshadowed by shit that we don't care about. Just like you said, it just doesn't matter. And I feel like the last red flag for Bravo when you're casting for Potomac next year.

is that Ashley Darby, who has always been able to skate between both sides and talk to both sides and go back and forth and be able to move around freely, she is even annoyed by Mia and walking away. Like, she can't even find a way to turn what Mia is talking about into a storyline for her, which is something that Ashley's always excelled in, to my dismay. But she's not even doing it. She has to walk out of a store because she's done with Mia's shit. So, like, that is a huge red flag for somebody who's always been able to do that. Ashley can't even do it anymore so get rid of Mia just get rid of her we're done with all of this she wants to be the star of the show she's always always wanted to be iconic everything that she said she always felt like oh my god this is my big moment and she just did it time and time again and it was

so tiresome but finally the cast started to rise above it and as soon as that happened mea's bogging everybody down yep so it sucks it really does and look it's still been a solid season I'm not like throwing up the flag now and going fuck we're in trouble yeah well it's it's flattening out they need to yeah they need to yeah they need to to shift the focus away from this hopefully i know they need to tie a bow on it next episode i'm okay with that they need to finish the conversation at dinner because it's still in the middle of the conversation but after that i hope that they shift focus to the other ladies in the group because i think that there's way more there that's way more fun to watch you know what we still

have to do what paternity test but why it's going to take up a lot of time at the end no just do Just the construction of these shows, we're in the cast trip. We're going to come home. We're going to have like three episodes left, maybe. Yeah, I guess. Probably two, honestly, because it's already at 13. We're going to have 14 back and badama again. That's usually 16.

And then 15, 60. But at home. But one of those is going to be pretty much entirely Inc. Gordon and Jeremiah. Yeah, I guess so. And look, it's going to suck. Well, I guess if that's the case, let's say we've had 12 out of 13 of the episodes have been great. Yeah.

So if we have this. and the rest of the season's, man, I'm okay with that. I do like that. And I know that, like, the Essence article is part of this, but I do love that both of us are sitting here in the one Mia-centric episode that just, obviously, last, I don't even want to call it last week, we'll call it last episode, ended with Mia and the kids' drama.

But this one was very Mia-centric, and immediately we're like, nope, nope, nope, don't do it. It sucks. I felt it, too, like, this is starting to flatten out. I don't know what to do. And while I'm looking online for a picture to use, and obviously I ended up using her tagline, which I thought was funny,

because she did say ink is permanent. Is it? Yeah, it doesn't seem to be. So it washes out pretty easily. But, yeah, I was going through that, and the discourse is just everybody's going against Mia. And a lot of people are talking about how Potomac is flattening out or even just sinking.

And it's like, it's not really, you're just too focused on Mia, which is what the producers want you to do. Correct. We don't want to do that. They just need to remove the issue from the show. Mia, Jacqueline, get them out. Yep.

and then leave it honestly you don't need anybody else let this cast go for a full season without those two see what they got and then you know you can shuffle around but for the love of god do not replace me here with robin i saw people calling for that and i don't know what we don't need robin back this jazelle has been delightful yeah jazelle without robin has been a treat i don't think we need robin back in the fold maybe candace can vibe with this group like i'd be open to that if she wants to return after having their baby i don't know like i don't know i don't think she can vibe though just because like we we see a different wendy this year too We see a different Giselle, and that, you know, it's not just because Robin's gone.

I think Candace not being there, too, is part of it. And I like Candace a lot, but I don't know if she's built for this show. Well, I mean... We'll see where it goes. You have to start with getting rid of me. Get rid of Mia and leave. Get rid of Mia and just see what you have. Well, no, start with Jacqueline, then get rid of me.

I don't even want to grace her with a get rid of her. Just get rid of Mia and Jacqueline will follow. Just pull a, what is it, Milton from office space? It gets fired. Put her in the fucking closet. Put her in the basement and just forget about her. Like, we're done. Yeah, what's the storage area?

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And right where we left off, me and Jacqueline talk about the kids missing. And again, we addressed this however long, last year, but when we talked about this. That's worse than wishing people happy New Year all January. You know what the funniest part is? That was not intentionally that joke. I was just saying it's been so long. You were actually saying it's been so long, but it's been a year. It just so happened to work out.

But look, the kids are missing. And I think Ashley says it best later. Obviously, we're all sympathetic to what that must have felt like. And I'm sure she was actually panicked for a while. I don't want to discredit the feelings that she was going through during this whole thing trying to track down her kids. But again, as they start to raise questions later, and I'll save most of that for when we get to those scenes, the way she handled this is interesting. And it's just more of Jacqueline coming to her defense and talking on her behalf and speaking on her behalf. And she's like, I know what you're going through.

Other people in the group don't, but I do. It's like even in a scene where you're one-on-one with her, you have to remind us at home. home that you're her main girl. It is not reminding us at home. That is how she is. Yeah, it's just like... Cameras are not. That's what me is going to say. No, that's what Jacqueline said. I mean, that's what Jacqueline's going to say to me. Yeah, it's very pick-me

and that's how she always is. Yeah, it just drives me nuts, but we get to the sprinter van. I don't want to waste too much time on that scene. And they're headed to Panama City, and we get a little checking with Kearnan and Greg. Again, we are... We had to do a 180 on old Greg, given some of the behaviors. He's definitely not the worst person, but he's

Definitely not the worst. But he's definitely not as good as we hyped him up to be in the beginning of the season. Well, he seemed just like a sweet, quiet man in the beginning. We were feeding off of Kiarna's energy. She just kept talking about him. She's still talking about him and how much she loves him. She loves him a lot. And that's great.

And I hope that they're great. But, you know, we thought he was going to be a lot better. Yeah, he's not. That's what I guess that's it. We thought. Chiarna's fault. Yeah. Blime her.

I think we thought Greg was going to be better. How about that? But they're adjusting to the movement. It's been 90 days since they moved. moved in together. Their new house is done in four and a half weeks. I think that will mellow things out. Because Greg's place.

Exactly. They need a little bit more space because she's moving all of her stuff in. Greg was not. They're just watching those. Clearly, he's lived alone for a while. I think maybe that's the root of some of it. I don't want to give him too much credit. But new house in four and a half weeks, that should shake things up.

But Karen has a little wrist, wrist. Wrist for lay. a list for Ray on how to love her properly. And the first thing, of course, is opening doors. Of course. Of course.

Gentleman thing to do. You used to do this for me. Keep opening doors. What's the general progression from opening doors? Probably thanking her for things. Maybe acts of service. Nope.

It's conno lingus. That is an act of service, actually. It's actually going down to the village, which I thought was fucking hilarious. That is funny. That's a good. It's a good charitism. It's a good charitism.

It's a good charitism. I thought, and that's... Visiting the village. That's again, what's hard with this show is because Karen is so good at her job. Yeah. I have to be reminded sometimes. Like, no, she's being a really shitty person right now. You need to be reminded by Jacqueline?

No. Okay. All right. No, that's... That's the reason. That's how you know. Jacqueline is just the worst. If anybody else at that table had said that, I...

Not me. I actually. No. Me and Jacqueline... Giselle? Oh, my God. If Jel said it, that would have been lovely, perfect, such a funny little scene instead. No.

That's Jacqueline, and she ruins it. And that was a good dig. That was funny. I know. Anyone else says it. Jacqueline says it. I groaned, and the rest of the room is shaking their heads. Like, oh, here we go again.

But Ashley talks to Jacqueline. Jacqueline brings up Mia's issues, and Ashley understands. But again, this is when she starts to say more, I think, what we're thinking at home, as this is all transpiring three weeks ago or whatever when we were introduced to this scene, she's like, I get it. Like, that's terrifying. I would have a very, very, very. adverse reaction. If I learned that my kids were MIA, I think anybody would, at least any good parent would. But she questions it. Like, how is she so calm and collected right now? Like, she's in the back of the van. She seems totally fine. And I think the overlying sentiment here

is her saying she's got to do something about it. If this is a potential, and I know it's a weird situation with your ex and if he's manic and all those things, it's hard. But you don't do anything about it. And I think that's something I hadn't really thought about until Ashley said it. I was like, that's a good point. Like, she hasn't made any moves to fix the situation? No, no, she hasn't. She also, and I know that I'm nitpicking here.

Knitpick away, sir. But last week, I don't give a shit. Last week. That's easier. She had said, oh, he took her to her, like, their old, they took the kids to the old nanny. in West Virginia or Virginia? And we got zero context at all. Yeah. This week, it's, oh, I'm so close to her. Yeah. And then you finally call, I guess, her daughter and that's who you spoke to and the kids are with the mom and like whatever. We didn't know that. If you said, yeah, they took her, he took the kids to their old nanny and it's just this woman that is no longer employed by you. That's what we all felt. That's how we all thought. That sounds like a bunch of different situation than like my very close friend. my very close friend.

Now it kind of paints it in a new light. And I'm not saying that Gordon isn't the right at all. He's still the father to the kids. You're not divorced. He still probably was watching the kids. And he was probably pissed off that the kids were with Jacqueline's kids. Yeah, maybe. Jacklin.

You think that's what it was? I'm not putting it on the kids, but that's Jacqueline. I don't fucking trust her. Well, let's put the kids with her kids. I don't know what the hell she's doing with her kids. It's probably peepee watching them. I don't want peepee watching my kids. Pee.

Oh, I forgot about Pee Pee Pee. Yeah, I don't want Pee watching my kids. So, yeah, maybe he just went over, got the kids, and brought them to somebody that he trusted. That's the thing. That's the thing. You have to communicate. But it's still Mia. So I'm still having a really hard time where I'm like, yeah, no, I feel bad.

Like, that is scary. You don't know where the kids are. Gordon might be manic. I'm not sure if he is anymore because Leah lies about everything. Leah. Leah lies about everything. The whole thing is just, it goes out the window immediately. It just gets so murky.

As soon as it gets resolved and you find out where the kids are, and then we find out that your best friends with this person. It's like, okay. It just changes it. And that's, I guess, you know, Mia, or sorry, Ashley points it out again because she goes to check in with Mia while everybody's shopping. And she's like, so what happened? She's like, well, he dropped the kids off here.

And then he went off to Martha's Vineyard. And I'm like, what? When did that part of the story come in? And that's when she points out in a confessional. And she's like, look, of course I'm sympathetic. And I think this is probably how the majority of a majority, I can't talk tonight. majority of us at home feel yes we're sympathetic that must have been horrifying for the however long it went on if you're trying to find your kids tees and peas i get it but there's a lot of

discrepancies in the past with mea and then we get a montage of it and that's when it's like okay i want to feel bad i do feel bad but we're adding to the story again now he's in martha's vineyard. How did he drop the kids off and get on a plane to Martha's, whatever? There's just discrepancies. And Ashley, feeling those discrepancies and also feeling a certain way about how she handled the shit with Giselle, talking about Giselle's kids, calling them sluts, which was scrubbed from the show, which again, why do you scrub it if it comes out anyway? I don't know. I think it's, it's one of those things that it's a lot more harsh when you hear it on TV. Hearing it through the grapevine is still, like, Giselle's been on the show for how long and she knows how it's going to

work. I want to protect the kids by all means. Yeah. So I think it is a way of protecting the kids because coming out on TV, there's going to be a lot more backlash versus people who are reading articles online. Yeah, I guess. It was like kind of knock out like a couple, I don't know. Like if you heard that Erica told Garcell's son to fuck off. Yeah. Through the grapevine, it wouldn't have been, like when we watched it, we're like, ooh, fuck, that's fucked up. The difference is we would question the Erica thing. We're not questioning this. No, no, no, no. But this happens. This definitely happened. But whatever. It's, it's, it was refreshing almost to see Ashley this episode.

This was the most, like, on the nose that she's been. I think I've ever seen. Yeah. Like, she was hitting everything that I was thinking. She's like, all right, look, because of these discrepancies, I'm going to raise some issues here. First and foremost, she's like, I would have left immediately. And I think that most of us would have, even if this was the situation, you found the kids, I'd be like, fuck this.

I got to get out of here. I can't concentrate on this trip. But she calls her out for the comments to Giselle saying, you know, you're taking zero. accountability for what you said that was pretty fucked up and me is like you know what i got so much going on right now i really don't give a fuck that's just the wrong answer yeah and it's it's ironic considering and they talk about this later on at the dinner you're so concerned about your children understandably so joselle's concerned about her children like how do you not put two and two together big oh i care about my kids joselle cares about hers but here i am talking

shit about her kids right that doesn't make any sense and she's trying to equate the social media stuff to people talking shit about her kids. They're not. They're not shitting on your kids. They're shitting on your decisions to bring these dudes around your kids when we don't know which way is up. And I'll save. It's hard. There's so much that I want to talk about it. It is hard because it does all come together. And I thought the same thing. You have to keep in the back of your head what actually happened the night before what Mia actually said to Gisal about her. She called them sluts. And the rest of that table who, they're all mothers. Yeah. They all look at her immediately and they have disdain for me

you don't do that and they want answers they want her to address the elephant in the room they want her to face the music whatever you want to say and she's not doing it now she's falling back on the I didn't know where my kids were this morning okay it's resolved now your kids are with somebody that you trust

and know and you've actually contacted them you should be done like I get that there's going to be residual factors going into that and you are still like a little stressed out and a little nervous about it fine you still said some deplorable shit last night that we haven't forgiven you for and we're not going to use this as an excuse because now we know that this is all settled and Mia is not going to address it because me and never address this thing she will never

actually apologize she'll always say that's how I felt but she needs to face the music now and she's not and I think that's where Ashley got rattled with her I agree and Ashley I think this is a bigger turning point than it it looked like because it's just her walking out of the store yeah but Ashley bowing out of the friendship with Mia as you talked about earlier on that's a big deal because now Mia's only anchor is Jacqueline, which is not an anchor. She's a buoy. She's a untethered buoy. She's a sinking buoy.

Yeah. The buoy got, there's a hole in it and it's sinking. So, like, the removal of Ashley and Mia, that is tough. Like, why do I need Mia back for any reason now? She has no ties to this group. She's not tight with anybody. Karen tried. Karen bowed out.

Giselle tried. Giselle obviously bowed out because of the kid stuff. And that's the other thing. When you go back and look at what Giselle was saying, and every time these conversations come up about Inc, about Gordon, about the social media, 99.9% of the time it appears to be coming from places of concern, from everybody in the group.

No one seems to be throwing shade at what you're doing. They're more confused because, well, you told us this, and now you're doing that. That doesn't make a lot of sense. These decisions you're making are concerning. We're your friends. And then she lashes out at them. for having an opinion on it.

Yeah, and we're still in the same place at the end of the episode, and that's why it's so tough to discuss this in a concise way while we're working through this episode because we're still in the same spot at the end because she's still not addressing it. And Giselle finally says,

well, no, she still has things to answer to it. Absolutely. She's not doing that. Correct. She's just dancing around them into her mouthpiece is just going off. So it just sucks because we're not getting any answers, which means we're never going to progress past this.

We're never going to get past this, and this is just going to be a sticking point during the reunion. For the next three. we're all going to groan about. You're going to hear a collective groan throughout America watching this and internationally. It's just going to suck and I don't want to deal with it.

No, I don't either. But the funniest part, newby, Stacey, you know, she's new. She doesn't know. She sticks up for Mia. She's like, look, guys, Mia's going through a lot. It's like, yeah, she is, but you don't get it. You haven't been around. This is her MO.

And that's when Giselle jumps in and says, look, she doubled down. She had the chance to apologize last night. Instead, she doubles down. She apologized, like, off camera. Again, that's later. Stacey bites on me as shit, which is just funny. But I will say the amount of cat calling is concerning. Yep.

People saying, get my car, like, concerning. Yep. I don't know Panama. I'm not going to speak on the safety in Panama. I will say, I hope everybody's cool because there's a lot of men hanging out of doors and cars saying things to these ladies walking down the street. Well, it might seem funny. Yeah. It's a ha-ha.

And then Wendy's like, we're going to be on first 48. I'm like, that's the vibe I'm getting. That is the exact vibe. Yeah. Thankfully, there's cameras. a lot of people around. Yeah, we should be good. But did they bring William, the security guard?

God, I hope so. I hope he's there. But we get to the rum tasting, and I was proud of Karen. She orders a ginger ale. I was proud of her for two seconds. Two seconds. Then she goes to a confessional, and then she dropped even further in my book. I am not sobriety.

No. Fuck off, man. I hated that confessional so much. But they give Wendy some gifts. She gets a little dildo. Oh, no, it's a bong. It's a bowl. It's a little bowl with a little ashtray in the shape of a banana.

that one was actually kind of nice. They were thinking of Happy Eddie. Yeah, it's happy. I know. That's a good gift. Just watching her try to figure out what it was. And then they all go, oh, it's a bong. I'm like, close enough. That's close enough.

And it just shows none of them smoke weed. You prude. You fucking nerds. You don't know what a bowl is? Come on now. But after Karen orders the ginger ale. I'm like, hey, yeah, good for you. You're figuring it out.

And then we go to the confessional, and all that goes out the window. She's like, I don't have to be sober. I just don't want to drink with these bitches. I'm not sobriety. I'm like, having seen the videos, the body cam footage, as a sober person, yes, you do need to be sober. You crashed your car, you got a DUI for the second time, Karen, and now you're going to go in a confessional and say that you don't need to be sober. No one knows what they're talking about. Everyone's just trying to say, oh, good for you, Karen.

I don't need that bullshit. Like, what are you talking about, dude? your videos are awful. They're horrible. You got denied in court. You lost. You lost your case. Now we know why she wanted to go to court.

She wanted to suppress the video. Yeah. Oh, is that what it was? Yeah, definitely. I mean, I don't know what her... The whole thing gets dismissed. Like, yeah, I mean, if that body cam footage comes out, then it's through some weird back channels.

But because it's an ongoing case, yeah, it's going to come out. Yeah, but she's disputing it to this day. She's saying that she doesn't understand why the jury didn't side with her. Like, I don't understand. It's such a strange approach to me. to deny when it's like, bro, we're watching the fucking footage. You look, you are wasted. I felt like the ginger ale thing, and I know that maybe we're like looking a little deeper into this than we should be,

but I thought the ginger ale thing was I don't want to hear from them. Yeah. I order a drink. I don't want to hear Giselle judging me. I don't want to hear Wendy's make comments. Absolutely. I don't want to hear me and Jacqueline at the end of the table saying something. And then she goes to the confessional and she still has to uphold the Karen.

She still has to say things like that. No, I agree with that. So I think that's kind of what it was, where it wasn't, you know, look, in the past, I think she probably still would have drank the rum, but I think it's just she doesn't want to hear the comments at the time, but she still does believe what she said in the confessional. I agree with that. I think that's an astute observation there, Goetz. But we do a little imitation game.

I ranked him. Kiarna doing Stacy was a seven out of ten. Kiarna doing Mia, I gave an eight out of ten. Okay. With the bottle of liquor. Jacklin doing Karen, I gave a two out of ten. Two out of ten. Wow.

Because it's, I thought you were going to go negative on that, honestly. I thought two was pretty harsh. Yeah. I thought you were going to go negative, too. Okay. N.A., not applicable. There you go. There you go.

Stacey doing Ashley, eight out of ten. Wendy doing Giselle is a nine out of ten. Yeah. So, Bravo. Everybody, nice job. I did enjoy that. But we get a little bit more about Kearna and Greg. And this is my point.

with the newcomers you have these weird relationships you have this dude Greg we're still trying to figure out we're all off on him a little bit given his recent performances you have this random weirdo actor friend tj that's this is all you need man

you don't need the other shit with ink and all that and immediately every we're talking about kjana going this trip to the bahamas with gregg we're talking about jazelle getting left in porto rico on a on a getaway like fuck yes like this is great I'm loving this, and then immediately I'm back down to fucking earth because Jacqueline's, like, the whole point was the trip is a good litmus test, an early trip to see if you can, like, stay with somebody for an extended period of time. Agreed.

Yeah. Great observation. But Jacqueline, like, tries to be cool, and she's like, or it's like, it's like when he's done in two seconds. I'm like, no, it's not. What are you talking? That's not. Nothing to do with anything. Zero.

And then she's like, well, it's a wop. Ask Mia. I'm like, oh, here we were doing this again. now we're doing that you guys hooked up again do you do you think that anybody at the table cares you've heard them groan every time you guys talk about this they're talking about it tongue in cheek like they're not being serious they're making fun of you for being such a moron us at home are all groaning going fuck we're going back two years now we're going back to 2022 when this show fucking tanked because of this stuff that we're talking about again and then we start talking about who's hooked up with who ink did you did he go down on jacklin guess what But even if he did, I really truly do not care. I could not care any less about the ongoings in Mia's shower. I don't care. Like, I'm so sick of them bringing up this stupid shit.

Like, great. You guys are kinky, fun. Oh, my God. Congratulations. Like, what do you want? Cool. You guys aren't prudes. It's not cool.

And the funniest part is, like, Mia's over there. She's the only one laughing. You can tell she's loving this. And then it goes to a confession. and she's like, Jacqueline just needs to zip it. She needs to stop. She needs to shut up. I'm like, you love this shit.

You love the fact that she's highlighting this. You think it makes you, again, iconic. She is so focused on being iconic that she is everything but. That's what it's giving me. And I'm sick of this shit. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. But we get to the van to dinner. Everybody changed at the restaurant.

I can't imagine how long that took. For any of these shows that we watch when they get ready, because you got glam, you got this, you got that, everything's got to be, you know, you got to look good. If this was a single bathroom, they must have been there for five hours. I would have said, I'll go last, and you can find me at the bar. I would have been hammered by the time that everybody had. Just drinking rum. I've done one of those kinds of, like a whiskey testing.

It's a terrible idea. It's awful. People get like flights of whiskey. Like, first off, flights of wine is like, that's the end of it. You do flights of beer is the top, and it's enjoyable. Sometimes you don't like the beer. Sometimes you do, and maybe you get a little bit more. Fine, you're not going to get too plastered.

No. Wine, it's a little dangerous. You're tiptoe in there. You get a little too dangerous there. You start getting into liquor. I know people that do like vodka tastes. Yeah, it's a rat. I don't taste the same. Yeah, trust me.

They all taste like Burnett's. Every single vodka that I drank, and I try them all. They do all tend to, they taste like rubbing alcohol. Here we have a pinnacle whipped. Well, that really tastes like whipped cream. This tastes exactly like funfetti cake. What the fuck did they? putting this thing.

And then he started dipping further into like whiskey and rum and stuff. Like, no, you're just going to get hammered. Once it turns into dark liquor, that's when you have a bad time. That's when people get. Going to have a bad time. You're going to have a bad time. Yeah. When I would get like brown liquor drunk from one of those things, I get a little

rambitious, yeah. But look, it made for a funny, I like the scene. Again, the whole thing was fine until Mia spoke up or Jacqueline spoke up on Mia's behalf. I was like, this whole thing sucks again. But they're in the dinner van and Mia FaceTime's Inc. And of course, like, it gets sexual like that. And what she says, she's like,

I miss you so much. I'm going to fly home. The minute I land, I'm going to get on another flight and bring you this Panama P. Everybody on the bus goes to a confessional. And it's like, go home to your fucking kids. You were horrified this morning that they were M-I-A. You could not Oh, that sucks. Mia, M-I-A.

Yeah. Damn it. Damn. That's an unintentional pun. I wish I could take back. Yeah. But you're so panicked about your children, the minute you get home to get back to them, you're going to go to Atlanta to see Inc. and defend it by saying, well, my oldest lives there.

I'm going to go see Joshua. Like, that's totally normal. Because we all remember Joshua. Joshua is accounted for. We know where Josh is. Go find your kids. Get them out of West Virginia or Virginia. wherever the fuck they are and take them home what are we doing here it just shows you where her priorities are and i think that she forgets where she like what she says because that is such just bad foresight it's just bad gameplay because let's do her priorities though it's at

the top being iconic nice number two is showing off sex stuff like showing off her sex life i understand that we got the first one together yeah no that's fine she does that the time, though, it's, it's, I have to have an iconic saying, I have to show all these women that I have sex all the time and I got to talk about sex all the time. And then, you know, it's kids, but mixed in there above kids is probably creating more drama. Yeah. And other people's lives. Yeah. That's how, that's where her priorities lie. And everybody knows it. But anytime that obviously kids are involved, you're still going to show some sympathy, especially in a show like this, because they're all mothers and they're all going to check in with you and they're all going to be

concerned when you're concerned. Once that stops and you start talking back, going back to the top and going back to sex life and being iconic, they're going to grow and they're going to move on and they're going to get annoyed with you. And that's what we see and we're all annoyed with it right now. I can't stand it. I can't stand it. But meanwhile, Stacey's FaceTiming T.J, the face-to-face times where they hold the phones up was ridiculous.

It's like, Inc., say how to T.J. It's like, stop. It's like, I can't see him. Can you tell him to crouch down? Yeah. It's not how FaceTime's working. You don't have to hold it up that high. It was just so dumb.

You think ink FaceTime's like from up here to make himself look tall? Or no, from down here. He definitely does it from his foot. And then he points it up. Yeah. So he looks taller. He's got like a little cell phone holder on his ankle. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

Yeah, that's that's it. He's got a tripod, like, shoe, and he sticks his phone down there, makes him look taller. But this should be a major red flag in my, I think it's very small, but I think it speaks volumes. Because T.J. looks at Stacey, who looks phenomenal. And he's like, you look really cute. I'm like, oh, wow, compliment. That's nice. points to camera at Mia, his pecks are out, I guess.

Good, nice, T.J. He's got nice pecks, and she's like, oh, your pecks are out, huh? And he's like, your pecks are out. I'm like, okay, time out. You can comment on Mia's boobs. You call your girl cute, then comment on another woman's boobs. But you're too afraid to be sexual? Wouldn't it be worse if he said, like, your tits are out?

Your boobs are out? It doesn't matter. The fact that he's commenting on it, saying that he's looking at her chest. Oh, I look at this a different way. The fact that he called them pecks is. crazy. I think that, no, I think the fact that it's the fact that he's looking at her chest, commenting on it. Yeah. Okay. Meanwhile, calling his girl cute, but commenting on another girl's chest. Yeah. He's afraid to be sexual because of God or whatever. I didn't find that sexual at all. He called

him pecks. I'm just saying the fact that he's looking at her chest, but calling his girl cute, I thought that's a red flag. And then the fact that Stacey, like, she's so sweet and innocent. And I want her to protected in this little Stacey bubble. But she's like, oh, I've never seen those pecks. I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. You're not in trouble. You're not in trouble.

You're so safe. You're the safest. The only time you're going to see his pecks is when he wears mesh shirts on watch what happens live and shows his nips. But he's, don't get me started. I just, I feel so bad for Stacey because she's such an incredible woman, top to bottom. We ever have her on, though? The first question is going to be, have you met bugs bunny?

I think we need to try to get her on. I would love to have Stacey on, but I think she's so phenomenal. I think she is so far above T.J.'s weight class that it's wild, that she's stuck on this guy. And it's wild. The wilder thing to me is that T.J. thinks he can do better somewhere. Like, go try this shit with any other person in the world. They're going to be like, you have a what on your bed? Bugs Bunny, go fuck yourself.

What are you talking? You don't want to kiss me? Okay. Yeah. Are you good, bro? Like, get me the fuck away from this. You have a therapist. Yeah, do you need one?

Are you committed? Like, fuck this guy. I'm so sick at T.J. And I think that it's more so because I love Stacey so much. And I watch these scenes and she's like, oh, I'm in trouble. I'm like, oh, bless your heart. You certainly are not. Somebody out in California is in a lot of trouble.

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It's the second time we've seen like post-drink. Yeah. She brings up something a little shady. And she brings up the fact that she saw Kiana's case come up in an article or something like that. Which we saw Kiarna flip out. No, obviously Ashley brought it up. It was a different.

It was a different sentiment because Ashley's like, where's the scar? Yeah. You have a scar? is a different sentiment. Yeah, whereas, like, with, and also, on the heels of that conversation in wherever the hell they were, like Norman, you would think maybe you don't talk about it? You would think. I agree.

But Stacey's just like, hey. But because it's Stacey. There's no stink on her, though. Right. Yeah. Because it's Stacy, it lands better. I do think it ruffled a little bit. Like, I don't think she was thrilled to bring it up.

No. But she does talk about it. She's like, yeah, and everyone's like, what case? She's like, well, I'm suing Debra. I thought it was disrespectful that I think, Giselle's like, oh, that's still a thing. It's like, yeah, she assaulted her. So it's a thing as long as Kiarna wants it to be a thing. Yeah.

And she says that she soon... She wasn't there that morning. She was still coming back from graduation. Oh, that's right. She just kind of heard about it. Oh, so maybe that's... Maybe it wasn't a shady comment. Okay.

I've been looking too far into it. But she has one criminal suit against her and one civil suit. And she's always like, well, she has no money. And I'm with Kiarna. She's like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. You want to do this. Sell your house?

Yeah. You're going to have to figure out how to pay me. Because you're going to owe me money forever because you want to wanted to smash me in the head with a bottle or whatever the fuck happened. So, yeah, she gets whatever's coming to her. The fact that Sesame Street came on the show and decided to do this, now you got to deal with the consequences. So, yeah, Keanu is suing her.

Sue the shit out of her. Who gives a fuck? You deserve it. But Ashley, being overwhelmed at shopping, I think Stacey throws this one out there, too, doesn't she? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, so Stacy's just, she's getting into it. Yep.

And she tells the whole group about Mia having a rough morning and Mia fills in the rest of the crew. And I'm so glad that it took this. turn where we've been questioning it nonstop. Why are we watching this? Why is she doing this? Why is she talking about her kids like this? Why is she putting them in these situations? It seems pretty fucked up. This is the first time that the group has spoken on it from this perspective. And Wendy's like, look, I'm concerned as a friend and about your children. Wendy says, I'm concerned about your children as a friend. I'm concerned that Gordon's still around them. I think that's a problem. And Mia, and like, this is where you can kind of sympathize.

And if she didn't have all these discrepancies, it'd be different where Mia's like, well, what am I supposed to do? It's like, that's relatable. Yeah. This is a very strange situation. Yes, I can't imagine trying to figure out what's right. Keeping your kids from their father, that seems fucked up, but keeping a father around that's going through manic episodes, that also seems like a bad idea. Yes, this is a tough spot. I respect that. I don't even know how to, like, navigate that. So I get that part of it. But then Karen jumps in and she's like, look, when this happened to me, I made a statement, I showed up with the cops,

I got my son back, that was it. I'm like, all right, respect there. Giselle, she speaks up and she says, look, you're concerned about the well-being of your kids. I'm concerned about the well-being of my kids, too. It's like, all right, here we go. So this is a good scene that Mia's involved in, but notice she's not talking. Nope.

Isn't that interesting? Other people are talking. I'm locked in. The minute she does start to go, I'm like, I don't care. Yeah, she's lying again. But Mia says, I apologize to you last night. Giselle points out, yeah, you did it off camera. And that funny thing is a lot of times we say off camera apologies mean more because you're

not doing her for the show. Not in this case. No, because you're doing it to save face because you don't want people to see you apologizing to Giselle because you want to think that you still have the upper hand on the show. You need to apologize. You called her daughter's sluts. That's horrible because they snuck boys in, by the way. Come on, they're teenagers.

Who gives a shit? That does, that's the most... I don't think there's anybody that's on Mia's side in this either. There should not be. Like, there's no reason for her to have done that. All she has to do is just take accountability for everything. But Mia, I would argue she triples down because she goes, look, that was a bad example to use, but... And she, you don't follow it up with a butt, and you might be okay here.

Or say that it's a bad example to use. And I'm sorry. What? Yeah. A bad example to use for what? for telling a woman that? Comparing the situation

of this all comes back to the social media stuff because of the comments about her showing Ink and Gordon with the kids the day after the GNA event. They're just not connected at all. They're not.

They have nothing to do with one another but she's trying to hold on to this thing that it's like, oh, well, you portray your perfect life on Instagram. Like, again, what do you want her to do? Go on Instagram live and be like, my daughter snuck in boys last night.

Like, no parent's going to... Here's the ring camera footage. Yeah. No parent is going to do. going to do that. All we're going to do is parents is highlight our children on social media. I'm not going to post something about my daughters in a negative light because I don't know. I see a lot of weird

shit on TikTok, so I wouldn't put it past a lot of people. That's a good point. That's a good point. You could make a TikTok dance while your baby is going to RSV. That's a move you could do. That's happened before. And then spend years being baffled why there's so much backlash.

Secret Lives of Mormon Live, Season 2, coming out soon. Fuck, we got to cover that too. We got a lot to do. coming out until like probably summer you think i hope so no because they're running the this is just a little sidebar they're running the uh season one on abc this is not a plug by the way it's not a but we do have episodes from that it's on abc yeah they're putting it on abc oh it's good so it's week to week uh-huh thank god but that's season one that we already watched oh we get to do it again we get to do it again boom you guys are all missing because we only covered the first three episodes you guys asked we will hey hey we're going to feed you baby birds

Yeah, I'm excited for that. But I think it's hysterical that Mia says it was a bad example to use, and I'm sick of my socials being scrutinized for being authentic. Yep. Are you fucking kidding? You went to a group of ladies at a G&A event and talked about how awful this situation has become. You need ink to go away for a while so that you and Gordon can figure out what the hell is going on for your kids' sake. And when you said that, everybody at home went, that's the right decision. You shared way too much in that conversation, but that's neither here nor there.

It was the right call. Distance yourself from this boyfriend, figure out your shit at home, go from there. The following day, Gordon and Inc. are sharing a drink while the kids take a dip in the sink. Had to do it. The sink being the pool. So that's not authentic. That's not authentic at all. In fact, it's the opposite because you are saying one thing and then showing another.

So what you're doing on Instagram is apparently what everyone's doing on Instagram is showing the highlight reel, which is fine. But then don't push Giselle and her kids into it because you're trying to defend yourself from your weird behavior. Because nobody can track when you're telling the truth, which is why when your kids almost get kidnapped, you don't get sympathy. You're the problem. Yeah, and that's why me is just a full-on enigma when it comes to being authentic, which is very funny that she's going to bring up being authentic. She's probably the only one on the cast whenever she starts talking. and we all question her. Is it real or isn't not?

And yet... Is it reasonable or is it shady? We will never know. Probably because Robin will never come back to the screen. So who cares? We can listen to the podcast. Could we? Do we have time?

No, we never have time. But with me in particular, she will always say, I don't care what you think about me. I'll always tell you the truth. And she does tell the truth about her past. Anytime somebody tries to bring up her being a stripper, all of the things that she might be a little embarrassed about, she's not.

She should be. She will. She shouldn't be. But then when things get into what she's actually bringing to the table, what she's actually bringing to the show, those are the things that we're questioning being authentic. So that's why we have this problem with you. And she seems to not be able to wrap her head around the fact that nobody thinks you're authentic. Literally.

You can say you're being your authentic self, but we still have a lot of questions about it. Why do you think that is? Probably because you're not being authentic. You're inauthentic. She'll just, she'll never actually realize that. And until she can actually realize that, that might be when she's okay on the show, but she'll never realize it. So that's why she has to go.

Yeah, I agree. And I think that this was Ashley's best moment that I think I've ever seen on the show because she speaks up and she does it. That's what's interesting. She does it in a respectful way because she says, I wrote it down almost verbatim because she says, Mia's doing things unconventionally that goes against a lot of our belief systems. That's a way of saying, Mia's doing a lot of weird shit and we don't agree with it. And she goes on to say, we're concerned about the decisions being made that they aren't best for all parties involved.

Which means we're concerned about your kids because you seem to be putting them in fucked up situations. She says this. This is very eloquent. It's a very nice way to say, hey, the decisions that you're making regarding your children are alarming to all of us who are mothers and all of us at home who are watching. Stop putting your kids in these situations. If you're going through it, we were your friends. We were here to help. But then, of course, Mia has nothing to say, and Jacqueline jumps in to defend it once again.

And everyone at the table finally is like, shut the fuck up. Giselle jumps in, she's like, shut up, stop, stop, stop. Jacqueline's trying to say, she's going through a lot, she's going through a lot. And Giselle points out, yeah, because of things that she has done, she set these things in motion. She is now reaping what she sowed, and you can't jump in and defend it. Yes, that's the craziest part. Her kids were missing this morning. they were missing that's a real thing that you can get sympathy for but you have somehow flipped it to people questioning your decisions as a mom because you have no accountability whatsoever and you have this little mouthpiece on your right that's trying to speak on your behalf that nobody takes seriously because she's not a serious person she's a caricature like get these two off the show before they ruin it and look this is going to be the problem for mea this has always been the problem for mea

She is in the midst of so many different things, and she is now pissed everybody off. And like I said before, they're all mothers and their natural reflex is going to be, I'm concerned when you're talking about your children being in a bad state. Yeah. But then they have the issue of, well, Mia is the one putting them in a bad state. Correct. And then you try to talk to Mia, and you can't talk to Mia. Whether it's Jacqueline jumping in, just telling her everybody that she's in a bad state of mind right now so you can't talk to her.

Okay. Well, you can't be the one in her ear because you're just a yes man. all you're doing and all you're saying to Mia is hey everything you're doing is perfect don't worry about everybody else I get you babe I understand what you're going through because you just want to crawl up her ass and live there that's where Mia wants to be

or that's where Jacqueline wants to be with Mia he wants to be there too much everybody else is still in that weird juxtaposition of like I don't know if I should be concerned for you or if I should be pissed off of you for what you said last night about Giselle's kids or if I should actually point the finger back of you and say this is your problem

you're doing all of these things we're not calling them out like yes now we're being there's a lot of animosity in the things that we're saying because we're pissed off because we're trying to get through to you and every time we try to get through to you you tell us off yeah that's pretty much where we are right now but we can't just sit idly by while you're complaining and you want sympathy when we've been telling you for weeks now and months now you're the one putting your kids in this situation by bringing them through this weird life that you've built for yourself and you're the one at fault right now yeah you can't get sympathy from us and that's why we are where we are and that's it's just annoying there

even watch it is and you get the montage of jacquelin up mea's ass like coming to her defense and it's never it never works it has not once worked but the best part the cherry on top there's two cherries on top of this uh this sunday in panama the first one mea's saying that everyone's a miserable bitch at the table and literally everyone has had a pretty great trip other than you they've all been viving together they're laughing they're having fun they had a good time at the rum tasting they're still laughing at the table so no none of them are miserable you're projecting and the second one when they talk about 613, which is, I guess, a blonde hair color. Supposedly.

Stacey and the confessional throwing shade. I'm like, fuck, yeah. She's getting it. She's figuring it out. And I love that. She throws shade at Mia. She throws shade at Ashley. She says that Karen is the only one that should be 613 blonde.

That's good stuff. Keep it up. Newcomer of the year potential. Like, she's been great. But it ends with Karen saying that Mia has a lot of friendships and relationships to rebuild. she's got to fix a lot of stuff and repair pretty much everybody in the group yeah she doesn't have any friends left except for jacquelin that's not a good place to live because like you said she's just saying yes to everything so what i don't need is this i don't need three episodes of

mea mending relationships i don't care i want three episodes i want let's just chalk up next week to what it's going to be yeah wrap it up it looks awful it's going to be shitty yeah i watched it's going to it's going to suck Let's wrap this up. Let's finish strong with the other ladies in the group. Get to the reunion. Slog through it. We know it's going to get bogged down by this stuff.

It is what it is. Overall, I want to end the season on a high note. I hope that they are able to shift the focus. I hope, I know this is what's going to happen. It's going to ramp up with the G and ink thing, and it's going to get to like a breaking point. And then the season's going to end so that we can go into the reunion to talk about it. Yep.

That's what's probably going to happen. I don't want that to happen. Because they do not need to be the focal point of this show. It will. But there's so much more here. And I think that what we can take away from this to the people that are saying that Mia is sinking Potomac, look around everywhere else. We have a lot to build on here.

There's a lot of potential. There's a lot of promise in the newcomers. Let's just get through the end of this season. We got a breather. Let's get into next season. Let's hope for the best. Yep. I'm with you.

Let's get to some questions. First up here from Sarah Polarty. Is me regretting her tagline since the breakup with ink? No. No. Yes. He doesn't regret any of it. Yes.

Yes. Yes. But you will never admit it. No. Would you say, it looks like ink, that ink washes out pretty quick. Yeah. More of a point here from, I'm just being Frank. Hey, Frank.

The scene where Ashley leaves is awkward because they edited me as comments out. I guess they're saying from last week's episode. No, this is her walking out of the store. Yeah, I know. I don't think, I don't think. think Mia made comments while Ashley was walking. I mean, she did, but, like, I don't think those are the editing out comments. I think it's what she said to Zelle.

Oh, yeah, editing out that. And we covered that. But I also think that even without that, like, there's enough there from her commenting on Giselle's kids again without just saying, sorry for bringing your kids into this. Yeah. From Max June 3, should me be fired? Yes, absolutely. Fired.

Not this bullshit. She wasn't asked back. I don't want to hear some weird, see some, like, screenshot of an email that she was going to send to Bravo saying she wants to take. take a step back. None of that. I want actual confirmation that she was legitimately fired. Not asked back. I wanted to walk out onto the reunion set and Andy go, what are you doing here? Yeah, that would be great. That would be great. From Sarah Hills,

if you could replace a present Potomac housewife with the previous one, who would you switch? I mean, Mia is out. And then my two, they can't coexist. But it would be either Monique or Candice, probably and they can't be on the show together for obvious reasons yeah um i would throw monique back into the mix yeah she was great i really enjoyed her uh obviously we're kandis fans around here as well but yeah that's one of those two for me and then shooter monique yeah but yeah that's an easy one who do you kick off me i can get the fuck out of here uh from zoi cudla palais why is kiana a housewife she brings nothing is it a payoff so she doesn't sue

Bravo, too. No, I don't mind you. Interesting point, though. I mean, she's not doing a whole lot. She asked on because of what happened at the end of last season? It could have been, but I think that given... I don't think she has enough room to grow with all this Mia bullshit. I think that's the problem.

I think that if she was given more of a stage and she would be able to do more, I think that this Mia stuff is bogging... She's not having a chance to grow. She would reset it perfectly. Mia is not bogging the show down. We would be able to make a decision on that. I think she has enough. I think she is, she's fun to watch when she's involved.

I enjoy her on the screen. I think she deserves another chance. I think everybody on this cast deserves to run it back next season without me and Jacqueline to see what they have. Yeah. We'll do two more here from Diana Maria. Do we need a complete revamp of RHOP before it's too late? No. I don't think, yeah, I'm in agree with Steele.

There's no reason to do a full revamp. You just have to get rid of Mia. Guys, don't be blinded by Mia. That is the problem. It's really hard to do, I know, because I'm having a hard time. Yeah, but she is the problem. Everybody else in this show deserves to stay for at least one more year, and then you can make that decision.

But we don't know. And last one here from Lolliegager 926. Do you think me and Gordon are back together and that a lot of the drama is fake for the show? Potentially. I think they are. Supposedly, now that she's done with ink, she's trying to rekindle the marriage with Gordon. I don't believe I don't believe any of that. I just don't believe any of it, but more than that, I don't care anymore.

That's the big part. Just completely over it. I will, for the second question, I do think that a lot of the drama with Mia is fake. It's definitely exaggerated, yeah. I think that there's some truth to it, and I think that it's all blown out of proportion to fit her narrative. Definitely. But, yeah, I'm with you. I don't fucking care.

But, yeah, that's all the questions we got. Well, I don't have anything else. You got anything else? Nope. Well, Rob Bro's out here. Later. Calling all Booklovers. The Toronto International Festival of Authors

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