Bros & Shows - Arryk vs Erryk: TWIN FIGHT! (Part 1 of 2) (House of The Dragon s02ep02 Full Recap)
Episode Date: June 25, 2024What is up thy Bros? We are back in Westeros for episode 2 of House of The Dragon. This seems to center around the family aspect as well as the passing of the guard... We see the aftermath of the dea...th of Jahearys and things are falling apart. Alicent and Helena take part in a funeral procession through Kings Landing to garner support for Aegon. Meanwhile, Rhaenyra and Daemon get into it after she learns of his part in the slaying of Jahearys resulting in Daemons departure from Dragonstone. Criston Cole and Alicent both struggle with guilt for boinking while Jahearys was being slain. To rectify this Criston... without asking the king, or the hand, or the council, or literally ANYONE of importance... sends Arryk to impersonate his twin brother Erryk at Dragonstone in order to assassinate Rhaenyra. Make sure you tune into part 2 of this episode to hear the conclusion and the epic TWIN FIGHT! Time Stamps: Intro: 0-7:00 HoTD: 7:00 Introducing BravBros Members! Offering exclusive access, bonus episodes, monthly Q&A zoom and more! Use the link below to join! https://thebros.memberful.com/join This episode is brought to you by Quince. Spruce up your wardrobe this summer without breaking the bank! Go to Quince.com/bravbros for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Oh man, it's 8 o'clock.
And so that'll make it a...
Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brof Bros, your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody.
For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only, Vagutes.
What's up, dude?
Vagutes?
Yes, Vagut, like Vagar.
All right, that's fair.
All right, I'll take it.
He wave finally fucking broke.
Kind of.
It's all right.
I mean, it's not 99 anymore.
So that's great.
But going outside, not fun.
No, it's windy as shit today, too, and I'm growing cornstalks in my garden.
Yep.
And they're getting like three and a half feet tall.
And I went out there and I only saw two.
The other two got blown over.
So I had to reinforce the ground with more soil.
Fun.
To keep those bad boys up.
I'm very dedicated to my garden.
All right.
Good.
It's very peaceful out there.
It's like I've learned it's kind of cathartic to be out there.
I spend a lot of time in the garden now.
Good.
Big homesteader.
Big, uh, high garden guy.
Big high garden guy.
Yeah, as you...
Steal Tyrell.
I'll take that.
Nah.
No?
If I could join a family, oh, that's a good question.
If you could join a house, which house would you join?
Which timeline are we looking up?
Game of Thrones or House of the Dragon?
I think all encompassing.
You have to ride that lineage.
Let's say it's, yeah, in between.
Between the two.
Probably Dorn.
Okay.
Wow.
Rettel.
Yeah, you can expect that.
Okay, fair enough.
They kind of stay out of a lot of the fights, too.
They just get to enjoy their wine and hang out.
Yeah, but then you get your head crushed.
Well, someone gets their head crushed.
It's not exactly, it's not like I'm Oberyn.
I didn't say I am Oberyn.
Are you Oberyn?
Could be.
Your Pedro Paso?
It'd be okay.
Yeah, I'd be right with that, yeah.
That's fine.
And then you just get your head crushed.
It's all good.
No big deal.
I think I would choose.
That's tough.
I think I'm stark.
I'm just a stark kind of guy, you know?
It was just brooding.
Brooding, loyal.
Just, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, all right, that actually works out pretty well.
No, no.
But as you can tell, we're talking Thrones talk here today.
So we are going to get in some House of the Dragon.
This second episode did not disappoint.
I love this show.
I love that we get to cover this show.
I love that people are listening to this show.
This is a lot of fun.
I don't know how you're feeling about it,
but I am thoroughly enjoying myself.
Well, I'm pumped that it's back.
And we started to tease it a little bit.
We actually would just talk about it.
randomly during bravo recaps a couple years ago when the first season was out now we actually
get to cover the entire show it makes sunday nights it makes the weekend much more enjoyable because
usually you're just kind of winding down on sundays making a nice dinner prepping for the week
maybe going to bed a little early not with house of the dragon house the dragon's back on a nine
you are pumped up and ready to roll yeah and i got to like pace myself during i get so excited
at the morning that takes all day to get to it at night but to keep yourself busy all day yeah
I have been, you know, I had my men's league on Sunday,
don't worry, still out there, relive in the glory days.
Not hurt yet.
Yet.
Yep.
Yet, I'm catching this Sunday.
It's going to happen eventually.
It's nothing you can do about it.
Yeah, I know.
There's going to be a day where I'm not going to be able to walk very well.
But look, we got to do what we got to do to stay young, just to feel young again, you know.
That's why I'm out there.
I'm waiting for a call from the Phillies.
I haven't gotten it yet.
No.
But here's to hope.
Yeah, you keep us posted on that one.
I need to address one thing.
Well, two things.
One thing.
Two things?
Let me adjust two things.
Yeah.
So up first, I need to adjust our odds a little bit.
I want to move Renara down.
More likely to be killed.
I've got a feeling.
Move her up the list?
The top of the list is who's likely to be killed.
Okay, then Renera needs to move up.
I got a vibe.
I don't know.
This episode, I caught a vibe.
I don't think she's making it.
I don't think she's making it to the end.
I think she's going to be, I thought she's going to get whack this time.
Honestly, I thought that.
And clarify for me.
Aric or Eric?
Who's the bad one?
Aric.
A.
Okay, cool.
A bad, e good.
A bad, e good.
I can fuck with that.
So I thought that he was going to get her.
I really did.
I was like, this would be awesome, sad, but awesome.
If he gets in there actually pulls this off and then gets killed.
I figured he would get killed by Eric at some point.
Spoiler alert.
I figured that would happen.
But I thought he had a chance to actually do it and then get killed.
And that would just cause such chaos and everything.
Right.
So that being said, she was that close.
I wouldn't be surprised if Thrones does a Thrones and takes her out.
Yeah, that's a possibility.
I mean, once, we'll get into this a little bit later,
but once you saw the Masaria saw Arick walking up,
you knew that Reniro wasn't going to die.
Somebody was probably going to end up dying.
There's probably a couple people along the way.
But as soon as she clocked him and knew exactly who it was
and stopped her guard instead of continuing to her freedom,
it's like, all right, well, Renera is not going to die,
but other people are going to die,
and obviously we're going to have the twin fight,
so that's going to be awesome.
We did not have the twins on our death pool.
No, we didn't.
They weren't big enough at the time.
Obviously, you know, one episode into the season,
there's going to be newer characters,
and we knew who they were, obviously.
But they weren't big enough for me to put on the death pool at the time.
Well, you missed out.
Yeah, I mean, I guess we could have put their odds at the same
because we, just based off of you starting the episode,
you wouldn't have known which was which anyway.
Eric and Eric, well, that was the thing.
I was looking at subtitles,
and then I was like, wait a minute, they're both named Eric.
And then I was like, oh, they're R and Eric.
It's A and E.
Yeah.
A bad, are you good?
Yep.
There you go.
Because A bad has an A in it.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's how I remember it.
Don't go any further.
Good.
Goody.
Goody.
There you go.
You always take it one step too far.
You could have just stopped there.
That was even a stretch to begin with, and then you had to keep going.
And said, no.
Goody.
But don't worry if you are waiting for some Bravo content to drop.
We are still covering all of our Bravo shows.
I couldn't help myself today.
I usually don't post Roanjay stuff on Twitter.
And I was like, you know what?
I need to poke the bear just a little bit.
I'm glad I did.
There was some very funny comments.
And it also just reinforced the fact that Jersey fans, like, not the majority,
but there's that small minority of Jersey fans that are just fucking nuts.
They are.
It's crazy.
The comments we get are crazy.
I didn't respond to any of them.
Good.
You'd be proud of me.
Good.
but I just reading them.
I'm like, God, you take it so seriously.
You don't even know these people, people.
But I enjoyed myself.
I just wanted to test the waters.
It's still crazy.
So that's good to know.
But we're not here to talk about Bravo today.
We're here to talk about House of the Dragon.
So let's dive in.
Let's fly in.
Right.
But I thought the overall theme of this episode
or what we're starting to get
is the transition really from the first season's cast
and who was in charge
into who's going to replace them this season.
I thought that this was like the transitional episode
where you're really seeing the weight of everything
start to fall on the new leadership.
Agon, Allison, Renera, so on and so forth.
You're starting to see that it's setting in like,
oh, shit, we're in charge and, oh, shit,
our actions have ramifications.
So I thought that that was interesting
to watch the character development here,
as well as the replacing of the old guard,
even get auto shipping out, which you called early.
Nice job.
So I just think that they do such a good job in these shows of setting up the storylines.
And I think that what this show is doing better than Game of Thrones did,
Game of Thrones would take a very long time some episodes to get you to that point.
I feel like the House of the Dragon does a good job of not speeding it up,
but making it more interesting along the way.
You don't have those slow moments.
Yeah, and it is moving a little slow, especially for something that's been highly touted
as an action-packed second season.
Pretty much everybody thought that this is when all the war battles, everything,
all the dragon battles, all of the, whatever you want to call it,
starting off with blood and cheese, you're like, all right,
we're going to hit the ground running.
But there still needs to be plot developed.
You can't do it too quickly because it's not Thrones anymore.
But I would actually say that it's becoming more and more clear that this is,
yeah, it's a story about, you know, a fractured family kind of going against each other.
they're weakening the Targaryen rule that's been going on for hundreds of years,
things like that, obviously.
But really what this story is about to me is essentially lovers turn to enemies.
Where you watch Alison Renira, who were very close as friends,
very close, you know, essentially family in the beginning.
You could even say that maybe they were in love at one point in time.
Now you're watching them completely separate.
And you're seeing how Allison and the rest of her family underneath of her
are how they've developed based off of how she is as a mother.
to Reneira's side where you get, you know, Luke is dead, but you still have Jace out there,
and Jace is interacting with Damon's kids, and there's two new kids that we already know,
which is, I think, uh, Aaron?
No, it's, no, no.
Um, Rinear's kids are Viseris and I want to say Agon as well, or Ares.
The one that they're bringing in from.
No, no, that's Allison's son.
That's Darren.
Yeah, Darren.
But you're seeing how Allison as a mother compared to Rineara as a mother.
Oh, you mean the two kids?
she's playing with.
Yeah, yeah, those are her two babies with Dan.
Yeah, yes, yes.
But yeah, you're seeing how those actions have ramifications where Allison was not
there as a mother two, kid A, kid B, kid C, and how they are completely fucked because
Allison's not there.
And then you see on Reneera's side that Jace is doing the right thing and he's learning to,
you know, love his betrothed and talking about how he misses Luke and he's even opening
up about how obviously Harwood Strong is his dad.
So there's a lot of things going on there that she's able to.
to be there for as a mother and a queen where Allison is not.
So it's interesting to put those two storylines side by side.
Especially when you take it back to season one and you compare the two of Allison being
forced pretty much to get married to Viseras after Otto placed her in the throne room with him
to try to.
By the way, did you see who everybody is comparing Otto to?
No.
Chris Jenner.
That's really funny.
There's a lot of really good memes going around where it's Otto as Chris Jenner saying,
after blood and cheese, what I really wanted to do is kill them.
But as a manager, I want to spin this.
That's actually really funny.
That's on the nose.
But I think that it's interesting when you compare the upbringing of their children
to the fact that Allison was forced into marriage, pretty much, as a teenager,
to get married to Vassaris, and then she has the kids,
so she wasn't really ready for a motherly role.
Meanwhile, Renara, she got to choose.
And then they forced her to marry the sea snake's son.
But even after that, when they, quote, unquote, kill him.
You know, he's not dead.
He got shipped out of the boat.
Lanor.
Yep.
But she got to choose to marry Damon.
So I think that that is also important to note their paths were set differently.
And that will also affect their motherhood and all of those things.
So I think you're right.
It is lovers pitted against each other.
You can even take it deeper than that where, you know, Kristen Cole.
He was in love with Reneira.
Now he's with Allison.
So there's a lot of bad blood amongst all of these people that used to be close at one point.
They're related.
Blah, blah, blah.
So, yes, I agree with you.
And I think that's an interesting perspective to look at it.
But let's jump into this episode.
And we are in post-Jahara's death mode.
And everyone is reacting to it.
They're getting everybody rounded up at the castle.
And I thought that this scene, although quick, was super duper important, especially how I just said, I feel like this episode is like the replacing of the old guard.
Because you see Agon in his, what is that, his bedroom?
I guess. Essentially, yeah.
And he's taking a sword to Vassaris's
statues. He built that into it. His Lego set.
His Lego set. Yeah, his medieval
Legos. And he's taking a sword to everything,
which we saw he carefully curated that.
He didn't make any of it, but he would carefully
study the designs and all that and get the stone masons
to make it for him.
Constructing Old Valeria, which, if you
think about it, his goal in everything
was to create a peaceful
kingdom, and I feel like that was
reminiscent of what he was trying to do.
Rebuilding Old Valeria the best that he could.
but he did a good job maintaining peace throughout his rule.
Now you got Agon, this young pissed-off kid who has a sword.
His son just died, and he's taking a sword to all of that.
And he's pretty much negating all of Vassaris's work.
That was what that scene meant to me.
But we get a quick touch with Amon, and he's going through the room that him and
Kristen Cole were hanging out in, where the map was on the table, and all the coins are gone.
And he notices that the coins are gone.
What is that what, but nothing really comes of that.
So essentially what that is to me is,
They are, I guess, foreshadowing Amon's.
This is the best way I can do it.
Amon is going to die eventually.
And in that one shot, you get him picking up the coin.
He's got his one eye completely out.
He's got another coin over here.
He covers the other one.
We know that when you die in this world, you know, during this time, they do put coins over your eyes before you die.
So that's a foreshadowing of him dying.
Now, what I don't understand is, and I had to pause it and look at it and try to figure out which coin it was, I believe it's the Dornish coin.
and I know that Dorn is not yet involved necessarily.
So I do want to see how that comes into play
because there's no way that it would just be a random one.
Like if it was a Stark coin, it would be like, okay,
Cregan Stark might be the one to kill Aemann.
That would make sense to me.
But it's a Dornish coin,
so I don't know what that has to play.
Is somebody from Dorn kill him?
And we don't know anybody from Dorn yet.
So that's something to keep an eye on for me.
That's really the only thing I got from this scene, though.
That's a lot, though.
Yeah.
I mean, if that's foreshadding the death of A man,
if he does get killed by somebody from Dorn,
then you get a,
you get a little point we should keep a point board of correct predictions correct death
predictions i like that a lot but we get auto and alison and they are just trying to come to terms
of everything that happened and this just shows you who auto is love him or hate him and i don't like
him i don't think a lot of people like him this is the guy that you want as hand of the king he is
immovable in this moment your grandson just got his head cut off and he goes we mustn't be shaken by
this it's like well you could take a sec
You can take sick and be like, damn, this is kind of heavy, but he's not.
He is so good at either compartmentalizing or just like pushing emotions to the side for the kingdom.
He is focused on the kingdom.
For better or worse, he has the bigger picture always.
And he's trying to continue his lineage, of course.
That's the whole reason for usurping the throne and putting his grandchild on the iron throne.
But it does show a good hand of the.
the king. Every crisis comes opportunity. The crisis hits. He immediately turns it into some other
opportunity. Yeah. Let's go ahead and send out Ravens and let everybody know what's going on here
so that then they can start to turn on Reneira because who would kill a four-year-old or a five-year-old
in their crib. Renira, what? Renira the cruel. Let's start changing her name. Let's do this and
that. So he's a master propaganda guy. So look, I don't, I see you won his hand to the king for sure.
I agree. I don't, I think that he knows that Reneer didn't do this. I think that he is,
probably dead sit on the fact
that this was a Damon move.
I don't think that he thinks Renaird it. I think that he's
using this to spin it because... I don't think it matters
that what... He may think that it is. He may think
that it's not, but he knows exactly
what he has to do in this moment. Yeah. And he also
knows that Agon being king, he's going to
be throwing a tantrum up in his room right now,
smashing anything that he can't his hands on,
and no one else is really going to be able to do anything
because they don't know what to do. They weren't
prepped for any of this. None of the kids
were prepped for any of this. They were never set
to rule. They never cared about it.
So he has to try to hold everything together because he's the only one who knows what he's doing.
Yeah, that's a good point.
But there's a couple things during the scene that I want to discuss.
And the first one is the child is dead.
He's in no more pain.
Is that implying just that he was in pain while the act was occurring?
I thought that was a weird line.
Right?
It didn't really make much sense to me.
I don't think he was in pain to begin with.
Or is that more of the he's not going to have to carry the pain of being the king?
or being a heir to the king.
That's the only thing I can think of, yeah.
The second thing, and she's so fucking stuck on this,
and in the grand scheme of things,
I don't get why banging Kristen Cole,
I'm calling him KC from now long because it's easier for me.
You know it's a C.
Is it C C?
Yeah.
Oh, I thought it was K, like Kristen.
No.
All right, so C C squared.
Yeah.
So C squared.
I like that better.
C squared.
C squared.
It's not the end of the world that you're banging this, dude.
And I think that maybe what, because she says,
the gods punish us, they punish me,
implying that her sins of hooking up with C squared
is causing all of this backlash.
Now, is that being set up to try to show the difference between
the dudes in this world are allowed to do whatever,
sleep with whomever, have bastard children,
the women are having a much more difficult time to do that,
or maybe they feel a bigger pressure where they're not allowed to do that?
Because we know they're not.
Like, it's looked at differently.
I think it's very quick to,
we can do this very quickly.
She realizes that if she wasn't banging Kristen Cole,
he would have been upstairs.
Is that it?
That's all it is.
And she is a very,
we are led to believe that Allison is very religious,
and she's always lighting candles for the dead,
and she's always going for prayer,
whatever the hell she's doing.
So I think that she feels like the gods are punishing her
because she's doing this to, you know,
she's essentially forcing,
or at least she might feel like she's forcing Kristen Cole to do this,
and he's taken an oath to not do that.
Put oath in quotation.
Yeah, I know.
Who the fuck?
His fucking cape is clean.
He's a little ho.
Yeah, his cape is clean.
It's all nice and white.
But, you know, his character's not.
So him doing that, you know, he's an oath breaker now and she caused that.
She pulled him away from his duties.
He wasn't there to stand guard.
So that's why this happened.
So I think she just feels, not nearly as much as we see later with Kristen Cole,
but what we see with Allison in this moment is she feels a lot of guilt for this.
Yeah.
If I wasn't doing that, I might still have a grandson at this point.
But right now I don't.
all right okay i can get down with that but we move on to the council meeting and agon's on one
obviously he's as you said throwing shit throwing a tantrum getting pissed off laris more than
anything he's mourning the death of his son which yeah it's understandable i'm there's wouldn't
have done no visceris would have felt it but he wouldn't have shown it no whereas agon is going
to show all of it because he is purely running on emotion he doesn't have the ability to
separate the two and again just looking at this
room, the setup in this room. You're like, all right, this is the new guard. This is who's controlling
the kingdom now. He was never prepped to be king, though. How often do we see these, like, he even had
Jahris last week in the small council, again, as a five-year-old messing with Thailand, funny,
but at least he's there and he's trying to say, like, he's going to be king someday. Let's try to get
him inundated with this stuff because Agam never was. He was at, you know, the brothels, he was
getting drunk in the streets. He was missing. He was doing whatever the hell he was doing. So he never
learn how to actually properly
handle his emotions and being king.
Well, he was technically not the error, though.
No, he wasn't. Yeah. Everyone
was implying that he was supposed to be the error, but
that's probably
why he wasn't in there, but also I don't think
Vesaris gave a shit. I think Vassaris was
focused on being king and didn't think about the next
one up and was also so confounded on
who's going to take over, because everyone's telling me this
and that, but whatever. Larris jumps
in and we find out that blood was caught
with the head. I don't know how
you didn't get out of there. You have plenty of time.
There's plenty of time to get out of there.
Too big of a guy.
You think?
Too big of a guy.
He's just, you know, eyes are drawn to him as he's trying to leave.
Okay, that would make sense.
If you see that big guy with a sack with blood coming out of it, yeah, probably.
You got to think about your escape.
This is why I said, he's a big dumb idiot.
Well, when you said last week, Assassin, I was like, well, whoa, whoa, let's not go.
The Assassin gets away.
Yeah.
The Assassin sneaks out of this whole situation, but you start.
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I have to see paranoia creeping in because Agon, now he starts questioning everybody who had a hand in this.
and this is where Otto works his magic.
He starts to spin everything.
He, Chris Jenner's the situation.
We need to tell the realm that it's Reneira.
And he's, Agon is against it.
He doesn't want to be seen as weak, but sorry, pal.
You are seen as extremely weak right now.
Someone just infiltrated your castle, killed the heir to the throne within not very long post Vassaris.
No, it's not.
It's definitely a little longer than that, maybe a few months?
Let's say two months.
Okay, yeah.
The only reason that I would say that,
That is just because we're now seeing, I mean, what, Jeharis is five, so.
Oh, you think it's years?
I don't think it's years, but it's definitely at least a few months.
Okay, we'll give some kind of months.
Some kind of months, yeah.
But they're discussing how to handle this situation.
He wants to do open casket funeral where he shows the entire kingdom what Renera is capable of.
Again, this is a whole propaganda spin.
He's trying to turn anybody that was doubting Agon as being the rightful error against Renera.
Everyone's not on board with this, understandably so.
It's a pretty crazy thing to want to parade down a dead kid whose head was sewn back on.
So I get that part of it.
He's not wrong as far as this being a good play.
But again, this is where you see Otto is fully enveloped in the game.
He always has been, always will be.
He's thinking kingdom first.
I don't even think it's family second.
It might be family fifth.
I think it's kingdom, kingdom, kingdom, kingdom.
his lineage, then actually giving a shit about the people in his family.
Yeah, that's probably true.
And I think you could even argue, and this line might support that a little bit,
I think that he is actually excited about this opportunity.
I don't think he really gives his shit that Jeharris died.
He's not showing any emotion.
And he says, Jehires will do more than a thousand knights in battle.
So I think this is just all an opportunity for him.
Then he sets the pieces.
He says, we need Alicent there.
We need Helena there.
King Agon, we can spare him.
Why?
Because I think just because it's going to speak more to the people, seeing the queen and the queen regent going through the streets, showing their emotions, crying, look at this mother who lost her child.
Right.
This queen who lost her child.
King Agon doesn't need to be there because that's not what they expect of a king.
Again, this just goes into the gendering between the two and what they're allowed to do and what they're not allowed to do.
It's not necessarily important for the masses of King's Landing to see Agon going down and, like, cry.
because a king shouldn't be crying.
I think that's more what it is.
Okay.
The last time we saw a parade like this,
it was shame.
Ding ding, ding, ding, shame.
So it was nice to see another procession
through King's Landing,
even though this one.
And I think they did this on purpose
because they wanted you to think it was going to happen.
When that thing gets stuck,
I was like, if this kid's head falls off.
I was waiting for it.
I was waiting for it.
But look, I think that the entire procession
was a really good way of showing Helena's anxiety.
Yeah.
And we talked about this last week where she has completely lost her grip on reality and what's real and what's not and what the hell's going on and all of her visions that she's having.
It would have been incredible if the kids had had fallen off and rolled through the streets.
That would have been wild imagery to show that even more.
But it really was just to show you where Helena is.
And I feel like where she's dealing with her anxiety of all of this going on now.
Like she got like huddled up with Allison just jumped into her lap.
It became a child again.
So now she's going through all of this,
and it's really tough to watch.
Yeah, and I think that when you get the scene right before this,
where Allison goes to Elaine and says,
you need to join me with this.
Yeah.
You see the difference of their focus as to what they're concerned about
because Helena is mourning the loss of her child,
not the air in waiting.
She's mourning the loss of a kid.
Allison is trying to put the pieces of the kingdom back together
while also being concerned about her own selfish endeavors,
because in that moment, she has to say, by the way, what you saw last night,
like, hey, you really think she gives a shit that she saw you banging Casey,
C squared, Kristen Cole, that hoe, she doesn't give a shit.
No, she doesn't give a shit, but she has at least come to grips a little bit
because we did see her last week at the end saying they killed the boy,
and now it's, you know, they killed my boy, or my boy is gone.
Yeah.
It's changed a little bit, and she's at least coming to some sort of terms with this,
but anything that she, any goodwill that she's figured out
or any sort of mental space that she's figured out
over the last couple of days, completely gone after that procession.
I agree.
And there's two things I want to note.
One, she snags that statue, that little statue as they leave the room.
That never came back yet.
I'm curious as, I thought she was going to maybe use that to maybe off herself,
maybe off somebody else.
Maybe that was protection.
I think it was just more to show, you know, a mother morning,
grabbing one of his toys.
That was it.
All right.
And then the other.
thing, because it comes in later with
Ranera, she
looks up as they're throwing, I wrote
confetti, obviously it's not confetti
because this is not a celebration.
What it is, though?
Sad Fetty. They're throwing
Sad Fetty down on the
procession, and she gets
hyper-focused on it, and
you just see the little pieces falling. I still
want to see one of her visions. We don't
see anything that she sees. Is that
a vision? Is that her having a moment?
I think it could have been, or it could have been her having a
full-on mental breakdown. But here's
what I wanted to draw back to. Fast forward, Renara is sitting at Dragonstone and she's staring at
the window and she's staring at the dust as it trickles down. It's a very similar scene.
I want to know, because look, nothing in this show is by accident. They do that on purpose. I want
to know what the parallel is there. Is that a moment to connect these two because they're both
parents where in this moment where she's looking at the sad fetti come down, she is in a funeral
procession. On the flip side, when she's looking at the dust come through,
She's sitting with her two kids at Dragonstone.
Yeah.
She does it a couple times, too, because even later than that, when her handmade is doing her ponytail or whatever she was doing,
she kept walking away and looking at things and walking away and looking at things.
I think really what it is is it's their depiction of showing these two characters lose their grip on reality and start to slip more and more into the madness, whatever that might be for each of them, and showing that they're not fully there mentally.
They've had a lot going on.
They have a lot on their minds.
things have happened to them
and they're slowly
kind of moving away
from everything.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, I'm just,
when I saw this scene
with Renera later,
because I made note
of her focusing on the sad fetti
and then when I saw
with Renair,
I was like,
okay,
this is something.
I'm not sure what,
maybe we'll get a call back
to it later on.
But moving on,
we get blood
and Laris are in the dungeon
and he lets it slip.
I was hired by Damon.
He outs cheese,
the rat catcher.
Oh, that big pussy.
I know, dude.
He couldn't even go through
a little bit of torture?
He folded.
before he even got poked by anything.
And he, you know, Laris comes in,
and of course he's got, like, the serial killer rollout.
Oh, yeah.
Dexter set up.
And Agon is actually the one that comes in to punish him.
And I don't think there was anything meaningful about this,
you know, other than Agon wanted to.
Somebody pointed out that it was the same tool.
Now, I could not, it might not be the exact same thing
that he whacked them with.
It's the same thing that Joffrey used to beat his birthday present
in, like, season two or three of Game of Thrones.
Oh.
but I don't think I don't know if it was the same one it's the king's thing it could be but maybe that's possessed then yeah so that that turns you into it well between that and later bala's using a bolt and I'm like is that the crossbow that we saw that Joffrey was using but it wasn't because it didn't have the line on it I it's there's too much of this shit going on with game every time that they show like a weapon or something like obviously the main weapons the ancestral weapons like Kreegan Stark had um ice that big fucking Valerian steel sword so there's always things popping
up like that but I'm too close. I'm getting too close to the attention to detail that I think
everything is connected. Yeah, I know. I do the same thing. That's why I write down shit and then I have
to look back and like, that's probably not a thing. Probably not a thing. There was one last week.
I already forget what it was that I wrote down, didn't mention. I was like, nah, and then I was
reading through Twitter or something and somebody called it out and there was a whole threat. I was like,
damn it. I did. I did see it. But I wish I remembered what it is. But
anywho, we get to Dragonstone. And their reaction to all this, they're finding out the news.
and they're recapping to Harris's death.
Obviously, Renair is denying it because she didn't ask for that.
However, I thought it should have popped into her head a little quicker.
Maybe a little quicker.
A little faster to put the pieces together.
Denise figured that one out.
She figured out instantly.
By the way, just take a peek to your right.
Damon's smirking.
He's smirking at this whole thing.
It's not rocket science.
But she peeks over at Damon as Renice pegged them very quickly.
And she's like, oh, bingo, light bulb.
I loved the transition from scene to scene with this, too,
because they're obviously going through it,
and Reneer is talking about why would I kill an innocent child?
That's not what I wanted.
I specifically said I wanted this person.
And Damon is for a while there enjoying this, thinking,
oh, you know what?
She might like this at some point.
Maybe she'll be okay with this at some point.
She's not.
And as soon as we see her expression change,
it just flips right to the next one.
How the fuck could you have done this?
It was a mistake.
It wasn't.
You were ready to say, you told me a son.
for a son and we saw and look I always watch the recaps too whenever we're going through
this it's probably the only show that I ever do this with but actually watching this is last
week okay great this is these are things that are going to be important once again they highlight
that Damon stopped and looked up and smiled at the end of that with what happens if we can't
find Amon Reneera asks him the exact same question what happened if they couldn't find him I don't
know I told them to go through and try to find Amon it's not a mistake you told them specifically
And it's just drawing this parallel to how he was with Vassaris, how he has been his entire life, where he's not always fully truthful.
And he is a bit of a dog off his leash going and doing whatever he wants when things do fall apart.
He improvises.
We saw it last year during that battle down in for the narrow, what was it, the narrow sea when he got crowned king of the narrows and he went after the crab feeder.
He improvised.
He improvises.
And a lot of times it works for Damon.
And this time, I would argue that it's still.
did work technically, but not in the way that Reneira wanted to present, and she is the queen,
he is not the king.
That is correct, but I do think that he has this weird sense of, he thinks what he's
doing is correct.
Yeah.
For everybody, for Reneira, for him, obviously it's self-inflicted, and I think for his own
personal gain more than others, and he can't get out of his own way.
Like, those crazy thoughts and feelings are always there, but his intention is not.
bad yeah which sounds funny saying his intention is not bad killing a child but his his aim is not
to fuck everything up he thinks that that's the right move and if you go back to season one his
answer is always let's kill somebody let's be violent whereas as we saw faceris a better way to
rule is with a softer hand yeah but that's his idea of what ruling means and making moves and
playing the game this game of thrones if you will this is what he's trying to do so i think that
his intentions, again, funny to say, his intentions aren't wrong.
The way he goes about thinks he's so impulsive that he doesn't give a shit about the ramifications.
He thinks, okay, if we get a kid, any kid of Allison, this is going to be some kind of retribution for what happened.
And Renaro will at some point, like you said, be like, oh, good move, Damon.
Yeah.
But this whole scene between these two is such an important one, I think, to set up their dynamic.
because as we've seen over the past two seasons,
they've always had a very conflicted relationship.
You can tell Renair has been in love with them since last season.
That's very obvious, very apparent.
You can also tell that, as she says,
she doesn't fully trust this guy.
She wants to trust him,
but it's impossible to do so because even when you think you know him,
he'll go and kill a kid.
So I think that watching them try to battle with each other
and also not ramp it up.
And that's the only person I think that Damon can have this conversation with
or any conversation with where he's being challenged and not escalate instantly.
Yeah.
No, I fully agree with that.
He doesn't fully escalate.
He knocks a couple of cups over, gets in her face.
But he doesn't take it to the point that he usually would with anybody else.
And I think this scene's really important because one, obviously, it ends with Damon being
cast off from Dragonstone.
Go to Harron Hall.
Go treat with them.
Figure it all out.
Do what you have to do in your own Damon way.
but you can't be here and you can't be part of the council right now
because we need to figure out how to clean up your mess.
But I do think this is important for Rainera's character development as queen
because she's too soft to actually be queen.
You can't sit there and say, well, we don't kill kids like that.
What just happened to your son?
They just killed yours.
You need revenge.
You need to show that you're still strong.
You need to show we can get into your castle and we can kill your kids in your sleep.
As weird as that is to say, you need to show some power and do that.
You should be sitting here saying,
this is going to be a PR nightmare
everybody's going to be like, what the fuck
we're killing kids out. All the tabloids are talking about it.
You just, and now you're a kinslayer, you're all this and that and whatever,
and you can spin whatever you want into Reneer of the Cruel.
But she does need to get a little closer to what Damon's level is.
And again, by casting him off, you're leaving yourself vulnerable.
Because I would disagree with what Otto said last week when he was talking to Amund,
saying that Amund and Vagar are the biggest and most fearsome threat in the entire realm.
Amund and Kraxies are.
that's real.
Damon and Crack's.
I agree.
Damon is way more seasoned.
He's way more feared.
And we see it a little bit later
with Amon's in his little weird scene.
Damon is not afraid of anybody.
No,
you do need him to be there
and you need him by your side.
And as soon as he leaves,
you now have a threat
where somebody's coming to kill you.
If Damon's there,
that probably doesn't happen.
So that's the thing that we need
to keep our eye on.
And again, I actually saw,
I don't know if you watched the after show,
but the director of this episode came on,
or maybe it was the showrunner,
came in and said,
we're going to see how Reneira struggles without Damon in the next couple of episodes.
I did see that.
So you don't have to agree with him all the time, but you do have to at least embrace his craziness
because that's going to get you to where you want to be.
Agreed.
And I think that what the duo is when they're together and what we've seen for the entirety of the show thus far,
they are a package deal.
So that is an all-encompassing king, if you want to say, or an all-encompassing queen.
They are one.
whereas if Renaro wants to rule solo,
she has to be able to prove that she can do it without Damon,
that people will still fear her, revere her,
and respect her without Damon there.
And I think that the presence of Damon, like you said,
belays a lot of threats.
A bit of a deterrent, yeah.
It's a deterrent for threats.
It's a deterrent for people to press her,
and she needs to be able to stand on her own two feet.
I think this is a big test,
even more so by her highlighting the fact,
like, do you accept me as the queen?
Do you accept me as the rightful heir to the throne?
Is this all a big tantrum because the throne was stolen,
and from you and given to me.
Damon handles it fairly well in the beginning,
and then he says,
like, pretty much you know that Vassaris gave you the kingdom
just to piss me off, right?
And that's kind of the breakdown of their communication
because she just flat out says,
I can't trust you, I can't trust you,
sends him off the Heron Hall.
Which, again, as we've heard,
that is going to be the deciding factor of this war.
And a Damon scorned,
is a Damon you don't want to fuck with?
Like, he's going to go get things done.
It's almost an inadvertent great move to get him out there riled up.
He's going to go do what he needs to do.
Damon as a tool of the throne?
Fantastic.
Damon on the throne, a little scary.
Yeah, and I think that she's worried that she can't control what he's doing,
and that's probably part of this,
because she wanted Amon's.
He didn't deliver Amon and said he killed a kid.
So she's worried, okay, I have Damon on my side,
but I can't actually control him.
And I would say you actually can because the way that we saw you guys interact,
you poked every little insecurity that he had.
And usually that would end with him being the aggressor.
And instead, he got up and he was willingly leaving.
You kicked him out and he left.
He didn't stay.
It didn't cause a huge commotion.
So you do have a dynamic with Damon that no one else has had in this show.
No one else has been able to, quote unquote, control him.
But having him on your side is really important.
And yeah, maybe that was a little bit of you piss me the fuck off.
Go do something good for me.
and he'll go get Iron Hall, he'll get the foothold that they need in the war,
and then come back and say, here you go.
Am I forgiven though?
Maybe that's what she's hoping, but I don't know.
I don't think he's going to come back like that,
but I agree with you where they have a connection.
They have more of a connection than anybody else in the show.
They're arguably very similar to one another,
whereas Damon just leans more towards the aggressor side
and Renera leans more towards the peaceful side.
But their temperament and I think how they operate are so similar.
I think that's what this scene is highlighting.
Is there differences, but also their similarities on how close these two characters are?
And say what you want, Damon loves Reneira.
Reneira loves Damon.
That's been apparent for two seasons.
So this was a super important scene, I think, and I think it's going to set up a lot more.
I do think that Damon's going to go just fucking scorched earth in a good way for Reneira.
So that'll be exciting to watch.
I hope so.
It's got to happen.
Especially in the Riverlands when he gets to Heron Hall.
Like, that is the toehold.
They keep saying it.
So that will transpire, I believe.
But we move on and get Reneira and Bela,
and Bela being Damon's daughter.
She sends her to go watch King's Landing.
Now, Jace had wanted to go do that.
He wanted to go scout, make sure that they weren't making any moves.
She said, no, quite clearly she doesn't want to lose another kid.
Yeah.
I thought it was interesting that Baila was the next woman up, though.
Well, look, I mean, you can't send Reneas.
I'm just trying to roll through the dragons that they have at their disposal.
Bela is really the next one up.
Her and Moon Dancer, that makes the most sense.
And she is capable.
I mean, we saw her shooting that crossbow later.
It's not about capability.
I don't think it's, if you were going to go down the road of she's going to send Damon's daughter out there,
and that could be like a, I'm going to put your daughter at risk.
I don't think she's trying to do that.
No, I think this is honestly her showing, because that's her stepmom, if you will, if you want to say that.
Step mom, step aunt, both.
Stepant.
Stepant.
Yep.
there we go um so no i think no would that be a half half aunt she's related to damon
yeah so it's not a step uh whatever it's blood yeah yeah yeah it's gross but no i think this is
just next woman up and she's next in line to go do that okay but i think it there's no way that
there's not more to it because if she gets whacked now damon's gonna have a dead kid now damon's
gonna lose his shit now there's a lot of dead kids this is apparently the season of damon actually
cares. He walked right past her in the hallway. Whether he cares or not's irrelevant. That's an
excuse if he doesn't care. He can say, they killed my kid. Yeah. It'll still have
repercussions regardless. I don't know. But Damon leaves on Correxis. Caraxis. Caraxis.
Not Syracis. Not Syracus. Call your primary position for Syracus. He heads out on
Caraxis, so he's headed to, I believe, Harren Hall. We'll find out hopefully next week. I don't
want a week without Damon. I need Damon. Matt Smith is just fantastic.
So let's not have any
Damon free weeks.
No.
That's how about what he's doing next week.
I just hope he brought his hoodie with him.
Yes.
Need war crimes.
We need war crimes from Damon.
That keeps this show going.
It sure does.
Keeps the audience going.
Definitely does.
We're, yeah, we're deplorable people.
But we get a very quick scene of
Helena and Agon crossing the stairway.
One's going one way, one's going the other way.
They don't speak.
They just share a glance as they walk by.
Now, do you think that
this was they are not ready to address what happened. Do you think this is a
quiet nod to each other? Like, yeah, we're on the same page as fucking sucks. I'm
really sad. What do you think this scene meant? I think it's that. I think it's the
quiet nod. And part of this was
watching the after show with the actor who plays Agon said
you can see that they have this sort of relationship where they sort of
share a look. They look at each other. There's a nod in there and I keep going my way.
She keeps going her way. I think that's their relationship. They're
They're never really together, and we saw that, obviously, last night when Jiharis was killed.
He's sitting in the throne room with his boys.
She's alone with the babies, so there's just no connection there.
But I think they do understand each other.
And if you watch it closer, you can see Helena walking up the steps.
They share that look.
He points that he's going to continue walking forward.
He keeps walking.
She just kind of nods and then walks up the steps.
So I think that is their rapport.
Acceptance of some guy.
It's acceptance.
They're both grieving in their own ways.
It sucks.
And they're not ready to actually.
Maybe they never were and they never will be, but they're not ready to, like, come together as, like, a traditional, you know, husband and wife and grieve together.
Maybe this would be the caveat for them teaming up.
Maybe this is not the last we've heard from Agon.
Agon's-
Unless Elaine is completely gone, which is fine.
Which could happen, but I could also see Agon making a push at some point of trying to be confident, trying to be a big player in this game.
I don't think it's going to work out in the end, but I could see him at some point trying to step up.
And maybe they team up.
Maybe that's a faction that we have.
Oh, I could see him hopping on Sunfire and going to Haring Hall himself.
I can see that.
I think we even got a clip of, like, what to expect this season,
him riding into battle or riding somewhere fully suited up in armor.
So I think we'll get him reacting, but that's how he rules.
That's his whole entire MO is reactionary.
Anything that happens, oh, here's my reaction.
I'm just going to fucking do it because fuck it, I'm the king.
And that's going to be his entire rule.
So I think what you get from Helena is the potential to, nah, she can't control him.
What am I kidding?
No, she can't.
Yeah, yeah, fool's dream.
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This next scene of C.Square, Kristen Cole is just standing by and watching as they
break down Ja Harris's bedroom.
And they walk the mattress out and it's covered in blood.
and I think that he's having a moment where he's realizing how much he fucked up,
where if he was on guard, if he was doing his job,
I'm not saying he would have saved the kid,
but we'll never know if he could have saved the kid.
So we're seeing that way on him.
And look, he's the biggest piece of shit on this show.
Yeah.
Hands down.
This guy sucks ass.
And it's all because you're pissed off that a teenage girl wouldn't leave with you
to go to the free cities.
Pretty much.
That's what it all comes back to.
That's really what it all comes down to.
And obviously he's a shitty person.
I did see, and there's a shitty person.
real people out there
who were commenting
on all of his
Instagram comments
saying fuck you
I hate you
is real the real life guy
real life guy yeah
stop
yeah people are morons
yeah the what's his name
Fabian Frankl
he had to turn off
his comments on Instagram
he's not a real person
this is but honestly
that's a nod
to how well he plays the character
great
oh he's great
don't let me
yeah I'm not gonna be one of those people
the character's a dick
yeah
the actor's phenomenal
yeah
that's banana land
I can't imagine
watching a show
about fucking dragons
and then being like
No, no, absolutely not.
No, I believe in a lot of weird shit.
Dragons, no.
What do you mean?
I could see.
Like a dinosaur that resembled one, maybe.
But like a fire breathing medieval dragon?
No.
Well, I didn't say medieval.
Current.
You know.
You're saying there's current dragons.
Current dragons.
That's ridiculous.
Called a bearded dragon.
That's a lizard.
Called a kimono dragon.
Also a little.
lizard no wings no fire you're losing me in between Kristen cold talking to
Allison which is the next thing we get this is where you see the quick cut to Reneer with her
kids and the castle statues and I don't know if that was a nod to Viseris's structures in
his room the kids are sitting there she's got her own little structures this own little kingdom
with the dragons involved the kids are there that's when she looks up and sees the dust
this is the moment that I was talking about so I don't know if that was a
nod to her being capable of being that leader, that queen.
We cut back to C squared and Allison, and her first thing, as she asks him, have you told
anyone and accuses this guy?
Like, obviously he hasn't told anybody about this because that would make him look like
shit.
And now she's trying to place blame because she feels like shit.
They both just feel like shit because they realize that their decisions have ramifications.
Once again, the new guards coming up.
I didn't realize that he was going to be made hand of the king later.
alert but this literally is the new regime taking charge and realizing oh fuck when we do things
people die it's not like before where we can fuck around oh this is fun i'm sneaking into your room
at night no you're this is wartime baby oh it's the same thing is what the uh the woman in the brothel
with amen says a little bit later when a prince is angry the rest of the people the poor people
the free folk the small folk they're the ones who suffer the most yes everybody's starting
to realize that. All these little young
idiots that kind of grew up and didn't know
what the hell to do with their power and now they have a bunch of
power. Everything that they did
actually impacts other people and I think they're starting
to realize that. They're both so
guilt-ridden but it shows you that
neither of them have the balls
to do anything about it. They're always
going to blame somebody else. They're going to try to find
their way out of it. They're not
embracing this head on and they're not
even talking to each other about it. They're just going to
continue doing what they're going to do. No, they have
weird moments of silence and then they're mad at each
other than they anger bang, which we get at the end of the
episode. They're incapable of one controlling
their impulses. By the way, are we going to fucking end
every episode with the two of them banging?
I don't want to.
Here's the thing. If they committed
to that bit for an entire season,
I would respect that. I wouldn't.
That's too much. No, no. I hate them. I'm saying,
if they just were like, this will be a little fun thing that we're
going to do, just end each episode with these two hooking up.
I would have respect for the showrunners.
I don't think it's a fun thing
to watch. I'm with you there. It would just
be funny if they're like hey hey like if that was a little hey people are going to hate this i like
we get like some serious plot twist of them two minutes later it's just two of them banging and then
credits roll yeah like that's what i mean there's just a quick cut it makes no sense it just
ended it there what why they keep doing this and then they're like giggling while they're watching
it that would be funny to me but like you just said they're both so guilt ridden and we see that
immediately after as christin cole goes to the king's guard and is looking for somebody to place
blame on and he sees
Arix sitting there
and the notice of the cloak
I think is important because he's standing
there with his white clean cloak and he looks
ahead. Arix cloak is
covered in mud, potentially blood
so he is
literally
dirty because he's doing his job
on the flip side. Kristen Cole is
clean because he's not doing his job and I think
that that's what's setting right there. So to
make himself feel better
he's like you need to go change that
because what did he say?
it down, a white cloak is a sign of our purity and sanctity.
Yeah.
Sir, wipe your face.
It's still wet.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, shut the fuck up.
You don't get to be the one that's pointing fingers at anybody for breaking oaths.
He has a dirty cloak because he did his job.
Yeah.
Your clothes is clean because he has a dirty cloak because he was at the funeral procession
taking the child that you couldn't save down to the dragon pit to go finally die or
like get his body burned by a dragon.
as is custom for the Targaryen house.
Just like the way you said that,
get his body burned by a drag.
Yeah, that's how that works.
You didn't do any of that shit.
You stayed up and felt bad for yourself the entire day
when you're the reason why this happened.
So don't go after our boy Eric,
which, by the way, he's not bad.
I don't like to call him the bad one
because he's fine, you know?
He made a decision.
He made a decision and there's still love between the brothers,
so I'm okay with him.
And he also stood up to Kristen Cole
and I really liked it in the scene
where as soon as he stands up
says, where the fuck were you, Lord Commander?
Everybody else clears out.
I know.
I love that.
Everybody's packing up.
Nope.
We're getting the hell out of here.
Someone's going to die.
Yeah.
Nobody did.
But I, okay, I'll give you that where Arick is not a huge piece of shit.
Fine.
I think he just, they both picked allegiances.
And they actually, I think that's even a nod to that where he's trying to challenge him.
Kristen Cole's challenging him as to not being honorable and not upholding his honor.
He flips it on him and goes, actually,
I am the most honorable.
I split with my brother, who I love, by the way,
because I believe in King Agon,
and I believe in this throne.
I don't believe in Renera.
So I stood my ground because I chose the honorable path
to stay with the King's Guard instead of flipping
like my brother did.
It breaks my heart, but he chose his path.
I chose mine.
Go fuck yourself, Kristen Cole.
Yeah.
I think that even gets under Kristen Cole's skin
because he's incapable of doing that.
He's going to follow whoever's banging him at the time.
He's just a pissed off teenager
that got broken up with.
Yeah.
And now he's getting the ramifications.
He's a pissed off teenager that got broken up with that keeps getting promoted within his job for not doing his job.
I know.
It doesn't make any sense.
No.
Does that anything good?
We all know somebody like that.
Yeah.
That's an idiot and they just keep getting like moving up.
You're like, how?
Even he's surprised that he keeps getting promoted.
He was stunned later.
Yeah.
I wasn't, once I saw the scene unfolding, I was like, I know what's going to happen.
But he was baffled and he should be.
You got the air and waiting killed.
Yep.
You piece of shit?
Because you got to bang everybody.
Yeah, and this is when he unveils the funniest fucking plot ever.
You're just going to go in and you're going to act like your brother.
Yeah, I know.
I saw somebody tweeting out that it's essentially this was Kristen Cole's plan and it was the two Lindsay Lohan's, it was just parent trap.
It is parent trap.
That's exactly what it is.
You're going to go in, nobody's going to be able to notice.
You look exactly like them.
You'll be able to figure it out.
In my mind, I'm thinking the entire time, what if they dress differently?
What if Reneera doesn't do a white cloak?
What if he's not wearing the same armor?
What do you do then?
What if he walks into the room and he's standing there?
Yeah, like there's so many fucking variables that you just did not think through.
You're just rushing to any sort of plot that you can to try to fix your wrongdoings.
And you're going to use someone else to do your dirty work for you because you can, again,
because you're in this position of power where he has to do whatever you're telling him to do.
I would have liked it if Aric at that point in time said,
what is the hand think about all of this?
What is the king think about all of this?
Obviously, the king probably would have agreed.
Brilliant idea, because I'm an idiot too.
this sounds really good but no
he has to sit there and it sucks
because he just sat there and told
Kristen Cole I had to split
with my brother and it breaks my heart and I still love
him and Kristen Cole's response is
how about you go in there and you go kill
his queen and pretend to be him
pretend to be him and if you see him
you're also going to have to kill your brother
yeah great call cool
high five do it for glory for triumph
yeah no and I think that Arick realizes
I don't really have a choice here I have to go do this
so fuck me
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