Bros & Shows - Ashley's In Drag, Mia Gets Dragged (RHOP 1/26/25 Full Recap)

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

What's up Bros? In this episode of RHOP, Ashley has her big performance. Mia and Karen have a big blowout at the Drag King performance. Stacey causes some confusion when she switches sides from team Karen to defending Mia. Kierna lets us in on some more struggles between her and Greg, and it appears that her presence on this show is a major concern for Greg. That and Gregs overall demeanor and general bad attitude makes him a real keeper... Wendy gets a huge opportunity to go to the White House and interview Karine Jean Pierre. Stacey throws Karen under the bus (rightfully so) when she reveals to Mia that Karen told Stacey to not befriend Wendy, calling her self absorbed amongst other things... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I mean, at this point, I'm ready for the season to be over, I think. And I got confirmation at the end of this one that we have one episode left. The season finale is approaching finally. I don't know what happened to me while watching this. I went through the same motions that you did. But by the end of the episode, I think things got a little bit better. I don't hate it. I don't hate it.

You're just ready for it to be over. Because, well, I think we can point to some key reasons why... There were parts that I liked, why in the midst of it, I didn't like it, and why I liked it at the end. We'll get to that. Yeah, we'll get to all of that. I'm your co-and-shows, Bros and shows, I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Brose and shows.

I got to have me my Bros. and shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Shooter McGavin. What's up, dude? Not a lot. we are, as we said in the intro, getting to the end of Potomac. Yep.

We're seeing this one through. We've, uh, ups and downs. We've hung in there. And, uh, this episode was an interesting one. There was a couple of scenes that felt like they were so goddamn long and painful. And then it started to speed up towards the end because things actually started to change for me. So I don't know how to feel.

Yeah, no, I get it. I think that this is, this episode is actually a good representation of what this season was. Yeah. It embodies what. the season was, because there are things that I like. There's things that I'm like, all right, I fuck with this. And then as soon as certain people get on the screen, I'm like, and now I hate it again. It's not even, yeah, yeah, actually, it is certain people.

I think that we got to see finally a lot more from the newbies. Stacey in particular. Yeah, and even Kearnana, I guess, sharing a lot. But, you know, a scene that Kearna was in was one of the most painfully long scenes that I've ever been a part of. We could officially say, before we move forward, uh, fuck Greg. Yeah, dude. Officially, we've been towing the line of dropping it, and now I think we can officially just say fuck it and fuck Greg. Yeah, yeah, we got here.

I don't think we even really need to say a ton more about Greg at this point. We've got him for who he is. He speaks for himself. He speaks for himself, honestly. We could just do a dramatic reading of what he said, but we're not guys like that. So we're not going to do a dramatic reading of what he said because I couldn't believe it. And I could not wait for that scene to be over. I felt so bad.

And yeah, that was the moment that I clicked my phone and I'm like, how much fucking time did we have left for this? I can't do it. And we still had like 20 minutes left. So, yeah, I don't know. It was a weird episode, but not terrible. No, all it does for me is give me hope for the future because if you take out the one component that we're going to talk about very soon, there's a lot of pieces here. That's what we've been saying. When it got really bad for those few episodes, we kept talking about everyone,

and try to see through the bullshit and see that there's still some good stuff here. I think that this, like I said, this episode's a good representation of that, so let's jump right in. And it picks up where we left off last week at the Drag King party. And it's Mia versus Karen. They're hollering back and forth at each other.

And the sentiment really is she's been lying this entire time. And yes, it's time to call her out. And the thing that, you know, you can call it growing pains, perhaps, because Stacey's new. she's also trying to be as neutral as she can throughout the group. She's trying out to pick sides.

But I thought it was really strange that she jumps in and she's like, oh, this is an ambush. Like this isn't fair to Mia. You haven't been around Mia long enough. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's pretty much what I got from it too. And I think what's happening here with the group, we always say Stacey is way too nice to be in this group. Yeah, she just is.

And obviously she changed a little bit in this episode. We got to see a little bit more from her. But in this moment, I'm still thinking to myself like, God, you were just too nice, and I think we saw the ladies finally just hit their breaking point with her. With Mia. You know, no, not with Mia. With Mia, they're dumb with Mia. Oh, everybody's done with Stacy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, all right, too much niceties. You are way too nice for this group. Do you not realize what she's been doing that she's been talking about this and putting us in an emotionally, like, I don't know. An emotional chokehold. Yeah, pretty much just forcing it on us. And now she's been lying for weeks. And she's just holding us at ransom right now for all of the things that you. she's been telling us. Now she's telling us to shut up and not talk about her kids.

Right. We're just reiterating what you've been doing the whole time. And now we have new information. Yes. And bringing it back to you. And now you're telling us to shut up. Because you put all of them in a position to defend you for an entirety of a season. Come to find out they were defending lies. Correct. So yeah. Stacey's still defending lies. And that's the problem. Like, look, this is part of the process. You know, and I think that it's very, very keeping that Stacy being a newcomer falls for somebody shit like Mia because look that's the type that Mia is for these shows like she's going to bamboozle you she's going to trick you into thinking that she's telling the truth you're going to feel bad she's going to garner sympathy

and she knows it I don't really get it though because have you really seen any any instances of Mia really being nice to Stacy or like no but she also hasn't been mean she hasn't been mean at all but she's just been Mia Mia is only mean if you're like going to go after her or if she feels like she wants to go after you. Right. Otherwise, she just lives in her own la-la land and spouts lies. I think that a part of it is, again, Stacey, for the entirety of the season, I mean, she's taking some funny jabs here and there.

She's trying to maintain this neutrality and this niceties with everybody in the group. She doesn't want to step over that line, and she doesn't want people to step over that line, so she's trying to still keep the peace. But again, what we have here is she lied to everybody in the group. Right. She's lied on TV. She's made them look stupid. And Stacey, this is how Housewives goes.

You bring it up in a public setting when the rest of the group is there. And she has to answer for herself. Correct. Not to mention, Giselle and Karen at this point, Giselle's just finding out she's fed up with it. Karen's fed up with it. So they bring it to her attention. And then for Stacey, if she wanted to do this or stay neutral or stay out of it

or just try to defend it, like she should have just not spoken up. She shouldn't have spoken up once Mia started going after Carrot. She's like, what about Raven? Like, let's get a paternity test on Raven. Also, as soon as we bring it up to Mia, she brings up the fact that Karen's drinking. That's nothing to do with it. Like, all right, you've been sticking by Karen as, you know,

later in the episode we talk about this a little bit more. You've been sticking by Karen this entire season. She says bad things about Karen, but you're still on Mia's side. Right. At that moment, you could have heard what Mia was saying and said, all right, Mia, you know what? I can't be over here anymore if you're going to do that. If you just said that and somebody else had heard you,

then at least everybody else would be like, all right, you know what? She is just trying to be nice and she's just trying to stay near the person that she feels like is being ambushed. But once you turn, then Stacey has to walk away from her. But you're Karen's friend. Yeah. You were brought in this show as Karen's friend. That was a rhetorical right. Yeah. I knew she was. Yeah. She was brought in this show as Karen's friend. So this is a weird move to stick up for Mia and she's like, bring it to the mother, not the group. That's a great call. You're right. In 99.9% of scenarios.

What happened was Mia brought this to me. the group. Mia brought this to everyone, to the world, to anybody watching this show. And also that's what you were saying, too. You have been around Mia long enough. If you brought that to Mia in a one-on-one, it is not going to go the way that you think it would. No, she's going to flip

it, gaslight, move. Like, she's never going to admit fall. Yep. So the best way to do this is to hold her to the fire in front of other people and watch her reaction. And it is what we knew it would be. But Stacey, for whatever reason, falls for it. She's like, oh, she's going through so much. It's like, no,

No, no, no. You're just falling for her shit. And you're putting yourself in a bad spot because now Wendy calls out Stacey. Like, whoa, what the hell is this about? Karen's pissed off. So the people that you actually want to be close to in this group, they're pissed off at you now. Yep. Because, as you said, you're too nice.

Yeah. And you never would think that being too nice would get you in a hole. In the real life. In the real life. In the real life. In the real life. In the real life. In the real life.

In the real life. But we're not in the real life. We're in the reality life. Correct. So it was interesting to see her finally put herself in a bad spot. She's done a great shot. She got through 16 or 17 episodes skating by without being in this spot. The funny thing was now we can go back to why Giselle was rubbed the wrong way from Stacey from the jump.

And it's like maybe Giselle saw something in there that she just didn't like. Yeah, perhaps. I think that it's the overly nice. I think Giselle's always going to kind of be like, me. Yeah, I don't know about that. She's got a little bit of an edge to her, you know. So I think that's probably it. But we get to the drag king show.

The mentor, I apologize for not knowing the name of the drag king that taught Ashley. Ash, T-O-P, as I like to call her. Whoever her mentor is awesome. The whole thing I actually really enjoyed this drag king scene, I will say this. I thought Ashley, I thought she actually performed well. I appreciate that she was all in. She's clearly proud of this. It's something she's wanted to do.

it's also a way for her to express her bisexuality and she feels represented. All in all, I was all for it. I liked it. I thought it was entertaining. I cannot imagine doing that in front of my family. No. That's wild.

Yeah, that part of it's wild. Uncle Lump, what's he doing there? Yeah, Lump was there. But you know what? She had the support of her family. She probably talked to them a bunch, and that's, it's Ashley. They were all gassed up.

They were, and she is 100% authentic for herself. Totally. That's what we want to see. And she committed, too. I like that she committed, Because how many times have we seen a housewife performance, not even the ones that consider themselves as actual singers? We've seen Ashley not commit. We've seen Ashley not commit.

We've seen this happen time and time again, and it usually falls flat. Or they just don't put in the actual work that they need. Right. Right from the jump when she comes running out. I'm like, damn, she's doing a great job. Yeah, she locked in. She locked in. So props to Ashley, I thought it was a good performance.

Again, I can't imagine doing it in front of your family. But it took a lot of courage. And Josh. Yeah, and Joe. Well, hey, big points for Josh. Oh, yeah. She mentions it, too, but, like, I even wrote it down. I was like, points for Josh.

Handled it very well. Hey, feel my dick. Yeah. Oh, what the hell? All right. Look, he handled it well. I thought he moved up a lot of notches in my book. He seems like a nice fella.

So I'm curious where those two are now, actually. They're still dating. Are they? Good. All right, nice. Even after she went through that whole dating show, too, which we still haven't seen. Oh, right. Right, right, right.

I wonder if this is any ramifications from that show. Did they meet on the show? No, the show was after Potomac filming. Okay, all right. Gotcha. Gotcha, gotcha. Well, we're a post show, and Wendy catches Ashley up on what they all know about Mia now. That it's all lies to the point where we're now questioning Gordon's episodes.

Is he having the episodes? How frequent are the episodes? How bad are the episodes? We have no idea. And, of course, Thing 2 is in the group and goes, well, Gordon lies a lot. It's like, Jacqueline. Fuck off. Yeah, I'm happy that's the only thing that she was able to.

I need to. Because she was just lurking in the back, lurking in the back. They're ignoring you at this point. Honestly, the only time that they actually have to answer Jacqueline is when me is there. Yes. If Jacqueline's there by herself for whatever weird reason, they just ignore. You can. That is the right approach.

You can successfully just ignore her and she just will go away. And it's such a last-ditch effort from her to be like, no-uh. And it's like, dude, the cat's out of the bag. Everyone's going on. But she got a reunion look. I know, dude. It's whatever. She's pregnant.

Jacqueline is? Yeah. Well, I mean, congrats. By PP or... Oh, who knows? I'm not going to speculate on pregnancy. Or Gordon. Who knows?

They're going to claim that all three of them are probably involved, so who knows? Well, I will say congrats on being great. I'm not a bad asshole about that, but yeah, I'll be... Wait. It sets up for another paternity scandal next season. Yeah. Oh, no. Works so well this year.

Let's do it. Let's run it back. Run it back. The more annoying one. Great. God, I hope not. But you got a little sit down between Giselle. Karen, Ashley, and Kiara.

This is one of the scenes. Like I said, I didn't like the first scene other than Ashley's performance. I like that. I didn't like that we were going back in with the Mia stuff. I started off with like a bad taste in my mouth. Then we get to this scene. And I'm like, all right, this is fine. Because I like hearing Kiarna.

I like seeing all of these, like this is a nice group to get together and have a little lunch, have a little chit chat. And obviously they run through Mia stuff and that they're all bamboozled. And look, everyone's eyes are open now. So that's the silver lining. That is the silver lining. They're going to go after her at the reunion. She's going to have to worry about Jacqueline defending her.

Yeah, I guess. I don't know. Also, I guess the main silver lining is we don't have to wait until the reunion to find out the paternity test. Although there's a scene a little bit later where it's like, is it still in question? I don't know. 99%. Dude, that was so fake. There's still a percent there.

I think it was 99.9.9. Actually, it's like could still be. There's 99.9.9. And that was the fakeest fucking scene I've ever seen. I hated that scene so much. We'll get there, don't worry. But Keanu talks about Greg and immediately starts crying, which is obviously a bad sign, and it brings up living together. She's like, this has been really hard.

And the biggest thing that they have to work through is the fact that she's on this show. And I think the biggest thing that I took away from it is her saying, it's important to me. I'm like, well, that's important. Correct. And she's like, well, Greg doesn't see it that way. And you get a little clip of him saying, or I guess, It's her quoting him, perhaps. Was it a clip?

I don't know. But you get a quote from Greg where it says, I've done all I can to support you. I can't do any more than I'm doing. Yeah. That's a bad sign. It's a really bad sign. And I don't understand anyone when they come onto the show

and their significant other who seemingly knew about this and, you know, quasi signed off on it. Not that I'm saying that you need permission. But if you're going to stay with somebody and they're still, you know, they're considering moving in together before this show starts. So, you know, they've been dating for a little while,

but still, if you're uncomfortable with this as a Greg, then maybe try to figure it out before they start filming and don't shut down and then blame her for all of this. Well, the funniest part of it and we'll get...

Or don't sign off on being on the show. That's it. You don't have to sign the release for it. It's like he are to go. But that maybe puts her in a bad spot because then she doesn't have

the dynamic of her with her partner. Yeah. When we get to the scene with Greg... Go date her. There's a lot of answers. You know what I mean? There's a lot of answers, and what he's doing is honestly the worst possible play he could actually do.

But I love Giselle stepping in here and saying, look, I'm going to talk to you like I would talk to my daughters. Don't let a man take that from you regarding, you know, what she wants to do, her passion, what she wants to do with her life. Like, Kearnas is a successful woman. She has her salon. She's an independent woman. She wants to be part of the show. She wants to build a name for herself. I'm sure she wants to use this show to grow her brand as a lot of...

a little bit, yeah, which is totally fine and respectable. But if you don't have the support of your partner during that, that's really fucking hard. And she even references, like, she's made a lot of concessions for Greg. Like, she's done a lot of things to try to make him happy. And you know what? She deserves the same in return. But what I took from this scene, and I just wrote at the last thing I wrote was, I like this vibe. I like these scenes.

I really like a housewife show. Because this is something where we've got a newbie here who's being vulnerable, who we've seen kind of go down this so it's been her storyline moving in with Greg having some hardships with the relationship trying to figure out her way on the show you're sitting down with people who have been on the show for a while that understand what comes with it

that have also had weird relationships that have had very weird relationships they can sit there and we're not getting the petty like yeah I don't know what to tell you about that like they're actually being genuinely helpful they're trying to help and you've got Kearna who just opened up who's even now trying to see it from both sides

saying look I get it and that's being a partner which she is Greg is not correct so she's showing us that she can be that good aspect yes of the relationship well Greg cannot which sets up things for a little bit later but we also just get nice scenes out of everybody else and these are the reprieves after something that happens with Mia that we roll our eyes at that we're tired of hearing we get to something like this and you're like all right you can build around this yes of course there's still going to be pettiness yes of course there's still going to be drama there's going to be catty attitudes all

around but you need things like this to happen and they have to show a a genuine interest in each other's lives in order to grow that. This we don't get with me and Jacqueline. Agreed. This gives the show substance. Correct. Depth.

And you need that for a successful show. If it's just like Mia's shit that we've been watching, there's no depth and nobody wants to watch it. No, you put it on MTV or like, oh, sorry, caught astray over there MTV, but you put it on something else, like A&E or whatever.

E. E. I don't know. Just not Bravo. Yeah, some off-brand shit. This doesn't, it just doesn't track. But don't worry. jump right back into some Mia's shit because the next scene is my least day. With

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Oh, this is it, the day you finally ask for that big promotion. You're in front of your mirror with your Starbucks coffee. Be confident, assertive, a real thing. remember eye contact, but also remember to blink. Smile, but not too much, that's weird. What if you aren't any good at your job? What if they dim out you instead? Okay,

don't be silly, you're smart, you're driven, you're going to be late if you keep talking to the mirror. This promotion is yours. Go get them. Starbucks, it's never just coffee. We're a scene of the entire season. We get Mia and Inc. Mia's picking up. This is your least favorite scene of the season? Yeah,

because it was fake, it was overproduced. I don't need... The same scene that we saw like six episodes. So it's a good term. Yeah, I know. Pick them up at the airport. Then we've got to switch sides because the Incast to drive. Call my ink. To adjust the seat for about five minutes to get a close enough to the steering wheel after Mia drove.

Hey, babe, did you get my text, by the way? I gave you the script, right? Yeah, did you read it on the airplane? Did you practice it in the mirror? Yeah, okay, great, great, great. Did you see the mirror? Or, like, they do have children's bathrooms in there. Go to the family restroom.

You should be able to see the mirror. There's a little stool you can step on. Yeah, get up on the changing station. But. You know, they started out with, oh, we're going to pick up the kids, right? It's like, I know what you're doing. You're trying to sound like you're a caring, quote-unquote, father. I want to take them to the game tomorrow.

She's like, oh, let's do that. Let's all do that. I don't know. They didn't clarify. Because he's not going to a game. I don't know. Like, it's just such a weird thing to say, but then they bring up Gordon. And he's like, oh, and it was horrible acting from ink.

He's like, Gordon texted me about the paternity test, by the way. And I wrote immediately fake, fake scene. This is fake. This was such a bad delivery. And, and, yeah. And, you know, he told me that he found out a couple weeks ago. And ink, whew, I got pissed off at this, too, because you have no say with these children. Because you're not the father.

Just because you were brought into this weird love triangle via Mia does not mean you get a say in what's going on with the children. And he's like, I don't think he took it. That's bullshit. And that's a weird thing to say. And then Mia's like, well, I mean, check. your inbox. We do have the actual... Well, Mia has it in her inbox because she's the mother. I thought

she forwarded it. Or maybe... I don't think that she's opened it. She said it's in my inbox, but you know... But she seems to have looked at it because it's 99.99% pointing towards Gordon being the father, and it's like, it's just so confusing to watch her

try to rationalize this as though anybody's going to take her side. Yeah. Because she's like, I don't know why he would have got this done behind our backs. Why do you think, Mia? Because you were drawing it out to make a storyline. You were going to leave your kids in the limelight, to give yourself a storyline, leave this all out in limbo just so you could talk about it the whole season and then at the end of the season finally do it. Yes.

And you thought that was going to be incredible. Yes. Gordon said, fuck that. I'm Jeremiah's father. You're going to hold this over my head. I'm just going to take him one of the 50 times that you're out of town because you're going to Atlanta to hang out with ink or you're going on a cast trip or you and ink are going to. the fucking Bahamas, whatever. I'm going to go take my son and go get the paternity test because you refuse to do it.

Yep. It's very clear. Everybody, this actually makes it so much more clear after what we saw last week. After the scene with Ray and Gordon sitting down, he doesn't seem like somebody who's ready to snap every five seconds. No. He seems like you're just painting a weird picture of him to build this fucking storyline because your whole life is the show. It's embarrassing. No, it's ridiculous.

He's an absolute loser. I mean, it's defamation borderline. And for Ink, again, to, I don't know why he decided to overstep this scene. I don't know why they thought this would land. I don't know. He's like, why is he involved in the decisions? It's like, because he's the fucking dad, bro. That's why.

Why do you think you have any say in anything that goes on with this family? Just because she picked you back up after you got dumped, whatever six years ago, who gives a shit? You don't have any calls. You don't have any relation to these children. By the way, she was so quick to get rid of you and try to fix it with Gordon once all this shit came to light, this relationship was a sham to begin with. Yeah, until, you know, it pops up again in two

years or something. Yeah, more than likely, because you can't get rid of a rink. Speaking of that, what the hell was the call thing, where he said that he clearly said, when I call Gordon. He said, before I call Gordon. Before I call Gordon. He's scared of Gordon. And Mia goes, wait, why are you going to call Gordon? Then he got mad. No, then he got

nervous because she was like, let's call him, pretty much let's call him right now. He said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you talking about? I didn't say I was going to call Gordon. Yeah, why are you calling Gordon? It's like, you literally just said that. Yeah, the whole thing was bizarre. It was so crazy. He messed up there and then I feel like he just like panicked. Yeah, and he has the balls to say, I'm a real

respectful person. Are you? Yeah, I know. Because you are in their life causing all kinds of turmoil and chaos. If you were a respectful person, ink, then when you said that you needed to pull away because it was getting confusing like eight episodes ago when the whole pool scene

happened, you would have actually pulled away and let them figure the fuck out. He has to change his name, by the way, right? I would hope so. Can't be incognito anymore. Yeah, you're not incognito at all. Maybe now it's ink like the pen, I-N-K.

I don't fucking know. I don't really care. I hate that he's been on this show. I hate that this has been a storyline because you know what? At the end of the day, this is what pisses me off the most about it. We have spent, I don't know,

hours and hours and hours watching this. We have spent hours and hours and hours discussing it. Only for the answer and the final product to be, it didn't fucking matter. You know how much time we spent on Ink and Mia? Too much.

Way too much. And the big payoff is none of it mattered. None of it fucking matter. We could have skipped this whole storyline. We could have just not talked about it. I know. And instead we wasted our time

watching it. I wasted time writing fucking notes about it. And I think that's what's so frustrating from a show standpoint, from a producing standpoint, who the fuck is producing this show? Right.

It's crazy to me that after the flops you've had, had two seasons in a row, this show almost getting canceled, the producers looked at these final cuts and went, this is fucking gold. This is what's going to bring Potomac back into the glory days. Is this storyline, this garbage fucking storyline with these garbage fucking people, that was our move to try to bring this show back to what it's supposed to be? You have great cast members. Wendy has had her best season yet. Giselle has had her best season in years. Karen, I hate what she did with the DUI, but she's fucking entertaining. Ashley's

bringing it now because Michael's no longer on the show. Kiarna's a great newcomer. Stacey is the strangest newcomer we've had and she's killing it. And this is what production looked at at the end of all of this filming and went, this is going to do it. Let's highlight fucking Mia and some

five foot DJ from bumble fuck Atlanta. Like, who cares? By the way, he's probably not even like a main radio station in Atlanta. He's probably like 109.9. Like, that what? You don't know the radio stations in Atlanta. That could be a really good one.

Sorry if that is. I'm just going for, like, the highest number I can think of on a radio station that I probably won't listen to. It's just crazy. And you know what? Yeah, I blame me in ink. But I blame Potomac production for the past three seasons, dropping the ball, missing the mark, thinking that they know better than the average American because this is fucking dumb.

And I feel dumb for having had to watch it. I feel dumb for taking notes about it. I feel dumb for fucking talking about it with you for hours on end, trying to figure out who's the fucking father. Guess what? It's the original. The OG. It's fucking Gordon.

This was not a goddamn storyline. Mia is awful television, and Inc. And Jacqueline are just her fucking stupid minions, and all of them deserve to never be on TV again. Never be in the spotlight. Delete your Instagrams. Get off of social media and fuck all the way off.

I haven't ranted in a while. Oh, God. Can't believe Atlanta radio caught a shit. stray. Sorry, Atlanta Radio. I said bumblefuck Atlanta Radio. So, like, the outskirts. Yeah. Because Atlanta Radio, I'm sure, is great. I would imagine Atlanta Radio itself is probably

phenomenal. It's incredible. Except Inc. I tried to clarify. Not Maine Atlanta Radio, that's good. I will say, going into this episode, I thought we were going to get a ran on Greg. I'm happy we got the ran on this. You might get a ran on Greg, too. It's not going to be that heated. The whole thing with Greg, though, is... It's not rantworthy.

He's just an asshole. Yeah, he's not really... True asshole, and Kiarna could do so much better. He's not rantworthy, in my opinion. So we'll go get... The ink and mea situation definitely is. Just, it's... It's, oh, it's so infuriating.

And it's infuriating. Like, I wish that we could interview some of the production members of this show and just be like, what was our thought process here? What were we trying to do with this season? Making an exit interview. Yeah, seriously. Get rid of them.

Get out an entirely new production company. So for the sake of this show, please. But moving on, we get Stacey and Ashley, and they are at the ASPCA or something along those lines. It's a shelter, and they're going there because Stacey's putting on a fashion show with the dogs to try to help them get adopted, also promote her friend Vivian. Is it Vivian? Vivian, yeah. But her and Ashley have come a long way, which is nice to see. and I think if you watch their first interaction back,

I do think Ashley came in a little hot. Ashley definitely came in a little hot. She's been on this show for too long. Yeah. That's the problem. And she came in terms of reality TV. Right. So as soon as it's,

Stacy's like, hey, I'm going through a divorce. This is what's going on. Ashley's like, so am I. God, it's been so crazy. It's like you've been going through a divorce for 15 years. Yours doesn't count. Yours doesn't count anymore. You shouldn't be emotionally stressed out anymore.

You shouldn't have emotions. Just a waiting game at this point. But I think she used that immediately to her. her advantage to talk about Stacey in the show. And Stacey's like, what the fuck? Yeah, no, that's fair. That's fair. But it's nice.

They just missed. They did miss, but it's nice to see them come back together because they do have a lot in common, especially as far as like the relationship shit goes. And, you know, she's going through the divorce stuff once again. And you can see the jealousy in Ashley's face when she's like, it's our second mediation. We've got one more to go and we're done. And now she's like, what the fuck? Yeah.

I've been doing this for six years now. I'm talking about taking out an article. Yeah, we were only married for two years. And I've been in litigation for. 10 make that make sense I've got two articles ready to go I got a spicy one and I've got a clean one what do you want to hear? I thought that was

funny I thought that was that part is with the love of God release the spicy one yeah because I would have there's kids involved there are kids involved and not that you know you can't figure it out by watching TV no I don't know I think that I think we all would really love to read the contents of spicy one

in regards to Michael that would be just release it on Instagram yeah kids don't see that As we found up from Beverly Hills, kids do see that. So maybe, I don't know. Her kids aren't old enough yet, but either way, yeah. I don't know what the answer is.

But Stacey is talking again about the fact that she waived her right to child support and there's no need for it. And this has gotten to a point now that, yes, we discuss it. And yeah, we need to bring it up because it's a topic of conversation. At the end of the day, do we think that it's smarter for her to protect herself? Yeah. Do the rest of the ladies on the show? Yeah. But like Stacey said, she's.

She knows her marriage. This is her decision. I, from what I've gathered, from how she talks about her ex and the fact that he seems to be very well off, I don't see a situation in which Arabella is not taken care of. Yeah. I just think for everybody on this show, as well as most of us at home, we're like, just in case, though, dude.

Yeah. Just in case, just protect yourself a little bit. It almost seems like she wants to just, again, it's Stacy, so maybe she's just being nice. I think she just wants it to be as amicable as possible. So if that's going to come up, and maybe his lawyers brought it up, maybe he brought it up, and it was going to be a point of contention, and she just decided, you know what, I'm already going to go ahead and get alimony.

So I think you're going to do the right thing when it comes to our daughter. Let's just leave it at that. You can see it going that way. We can really speculate on it. But there's no need to. This is now the second time that we're talking about this, and she seems pretty clear cut on. She said, I know my situation. He's going to handle it fine.

Yeah, so it's no longer our business. Correct. It's kind of how I feel about it. But let's get to Greg. Oh, Gregory, because holy shit, this was what we needed to finally make a decision of what an asshole he is. Yeah, we saw this one coming. We did, we did. But it was so borderline ambiguous, like, where it was like, all right, yeah, he's clearly not the best.

And he's clearly got some antiquated ideals on how a relationship should work that we don't agree with. And he also probably doesn't really want to be on camera. It could have ended there. It should have ended there. It should have. Because the funniest part about this is Greg is clearly so concerned about coming off a certain way on TV. You would think he'd be more cognizant of not coming off a certain way on TV. But you would think if he was so concerned about not coming off a certain way on TV,

he'd be much more cognizant of the fact that there's cameras everywhere. And even in the car ride, there's a camera right there, Greg. Right there. And I know that he knows that there's a camera right. right there. And I think the approach that he was trying to take is, I don't want to have our arguments that we have at home on the camera. One thousand percent.

But you can do that without being a dick. You could just talk to her. You could just talk to her. And I understand like, this is why it was just so painful because I know Wikiron is trying to do. And again, she's new. She's very new and she's just trying to discuss with Greg

what they're going through because she just had a discussion with the girls about what they're going through. She's trying to do her job. It does make sense. She's trying to do her job. She's doing her job. It's a continuation of a conversation that now we're seeing right back with Greg. Yeah. He doesn't want to have the discussion on camera, but you can say it in a nice way.

You can maybe change the subject. I don't know. And then we'll just get the hint. I guess. You can be a nicer person and just be like, look, I don't feel comfortable talking about this right now. But that's not okay either, though, if there would be on the show. And look, he's a huge dick the entire time. We don't know for a fact before Kearnas started filming if he actually,

was like absolutely not like I don't want to do with any of this. Are you a Greg sympathizer? But then I guess he still had to sign. I'm still trying to wrap my head around it because like I get it. Like we get questions all the time at the end of these episodes. It's like if your wife or girlfriend wanted to be on one of these shows, how would you feel? It's like, I don't know. If you wanted to do it, I'd support it.

If you want to do it, you support it. But like, do I want to be on it? Maybe not. Do I want to have like arguments on it? Probably not. So there's like definitely a lot of situations that go into it. But you still sign the release to be on it. Maybe just let it go.

It's like four months. of filming. It's four months of filming, but you have to give more if this is what Chiarna. If you want to be in this relationship, right? Yeah. That's what it comes down to.

If you want to be part of her life, this is a part of her life now. That's why I said, just break up with her if you don't want to do this. Honestly, because that's the only real answer because the other part is she's like, there's things we have to talk about. And he's like, like what?

It's like, dude, we know. Yeah. We already watched a scene. And like, that's the other part. Do you think that it's not going to come out? And also, you being this weird and dismissive with her is only going to play worse for you. And now she has to try to make you feel

But she's like, don't get upset with me And he goes, Jesus Christ I'm like, fuck you, Greg Yeah, it turned very fast Relax Like look, we understand You're frustrated You don't want to have these conversations on camera

We can leave all the things That you know, you sign the release in the past You don't have to be an asshole He's just being such a dick You can just talk to your girlfriends Like now it's, we're just thinking even worse We're like, you don't even like her No, it doesn't appear that he does

Or nothing to do with her He just wants like a 19, like 50s housewife that stays at home and cooks and cleans and does the dishes. And that's not Kiana. She is a independent, strong businesswoman. This whole conversation, the entire scene is just you telling her you don't like who she is. Correct. I don't like what you're doing.

Break up with her. It doesn't make any fucking sense. Stringing her along. Yeah. And they get to lunch and it's like, oh, we've come a long way. And he's like, I don't know. We already go over like pretty much the same thing. It's like, okay, Greg.

We actually met around here. She's trying to throw her. you a bone. She's trying to help you out. And you don't even see that. And here's where he lost me in time. I mean, he already lost me at the Jesus Christ and like the car interaction. That was when he started like, I was like, all right, fuck this dude. And then when he's like, look, this is so dumb. I hate, I can't believe he said this and believes this. He's like, look, I'm a man. You're a woman. We just see things differently. That's just how it is. It's different lens. It's like, okay, dude. All right, go hang out at the men's club then and talk to your boys about this shit. Go smoke a Stogie

and fucking have a, have a blast. Like, this is such a dumb-ass thing to say, especially, especially to, one, your significant other that you just moved in with, and two, your significant other that you should know is proud of the fact that she is a business owner. She is a strong, independent woman. This could quite possibly be the worst thing

that you could say until you make it worse. Yeah. Just calm the fuck down sometimes. What? What? In my head, I'm, like, going over if I said that to Dev. Like what the ramifications would be. I just don't fucking understand it.

Like you said, you're worried about your image. You're worried about how you're going to come off on this TV show. You're worried about these cameras being around when you're having an intimate moment. When you're talking to your girlfriend, talking about life, getting through an argument. How are you going to be this bad about that? I don't know. This is your performance. If you're so fucking aware, you're in a microscope right now.

Yeah. You're looking at this saying, holy shit, I do not want to deal with that. any of this? There's a full-sized camera in front of you at the table. Yeah, like, what are you doing? Like, be, you're very aware. We know you're aware of it. How are you this stupid? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. The whole point of you not willing to be honest was clearly because you wanted to protect a certain image about yourself and you single-handedly ruined it. You're the, you're the problem. Now we're obviously, we're going to start speculating what you were actually thinking. One thousand percent. What don't you want out there? I have no idea. What are you

worried about? This is sketchy, Greg. You have another family. Pretty shady, Greg. Pretty sketch i heard you know allegedly he's got a family down to miami wow i look i don't know this is what happens when you're on these shows and you're an asshole now we speculate now we don't like you and we're to speculate about the worst yep because you're an asshole gregg and that's how we feel and especially when kirona says things to you trying to have a conversation goes i shrink when i'm with you and he goes that's strange that's strange that's strange and you wouldn't have caught that if you didn't have subtitles on because you didn't hear it and i i've read it i was like mumbled there what do you mean that's strange she's telling you how to you how

she feels and she just wants to be seen and the fucking cherry on top the the what is it uh pier de resistance sure is that what it is i don't fucking know sure speak french the you're gonna get stuck on this one just leave it at that the fact that he says this sentence this tops every single thing that's happen because she says, I feel dismissed. I feel like you dismiss my feelings sometimes. And in trying to deny that, he dismisses her feelings in real time. I don't dismiss you. You just did. You literally just did. I've never dismissed you. I don't dismiss you. Dismissal within a dismissal? It's dis disception. Yeah. Yeah. That works. It was wacky. I was like, you dumb fuck. You literally just did what she told you you do.

On TV, once again, you could not have had a worse performance in one scene to completely throw you under the bus. You were already, like, leaning under the bus. You just jumped under a train, actually. You know what? Actually, I think it all, it's starting to make sense now, why he agreed to be on the show. Why? He wants control of his own, and he fucked up massively. Yeah. He wants control of his own image. He doesn't want... He doesn't, yeah. Talk to me, actually. There's an opening, actually. Yeah. Ink is gone. Yeah, you're definitely taller at least.

But he wants control over the narrative. He doesn't want Kearnah in these scenes talking about him saying, oh, we had a really big argument. We're not really sure how it's going to go without him being able to speak for himself. This is him speaking for himself is you've made things so much worse. If that's all that happens, you know what Steele and I would be sitting here talking about? Well, it's kind of stupid that like he's not on the show. We don't really get to see him.

And honestly, when Keiarta talks about him, we don't really care because we don't need him. Right. That would be the extent of it. of our conversations about it. Now we care a lot. Now we care a lot. So the point that I'm making up an extra family that you have down in Atlanta as well. Especially your biggest problem, Greg, is that we really like Kearna.

Yeah. So we're definitely invested now and fuck you, Greg. It's like, the jackass. It's just so funny that his whole goal is to not look bad. And then he made himself look the worst he's looked all season. Nice job, Greg. Way to go. But let's get to the fashion show.

Stacey's getting ready for everything. We get to meet Vivian. They're actually at the store, so Vivian's storefront. And she sent the invites with Arabella. It was a cute little invite thing. And Karen responds and says, I will support, but I'm not going to be there because of your actions and comments at Ashley's. This is something that I've always liked about Karen.

This is why up until this season I was always a huge Grand Dame supporter. I can't be anymore with how she's dealt with everything. Did you hear she fired her legal team? And that's why her sentencing got pushed to February 28th or whatever. Yeah, because she's facing up to two years in prison. But anyway, I do like that she will, she will stand by her laurels. She will send a text and say, this is why I'm not coming. Because you disrespected me.

Go fuck yourself. And I like that. And Wendy, Ashley, and Giselle are there. And they're talking about Karen's rejection and everything. And Wendy is the most inquisitive. Because as we know, Wendy feels the close. closest to Karen. They've shared some moments. The word feels. It's an important key word because

Stacey makes the biggest mistake of her housewife's career in trusting me at the end. Yeah. Look, we'll get there. We'll get there. Because I have similar takes, I think. I think I have similar takes as you. Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure. This fall get double points on every qualified stay. Life's the trip. Make the most of it at Best Western. Bestwestern.com for complete terms and conditions. During the Volvo Fall Experience event, discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design

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Granted, we did see Stacey stick up for character out of the season, so I'm not going to fault her there. But in that moment, you should have stood by Karen or just bow out. Correct. You didn't need to jump into that whole thing. But Giselle jumps in. And I don't know. I'm assuming that this is a response to Stacey's reaction to Mia. Yeah.

That's what all this stems from, because this was a stretch even from Giselle's standards of trying to start. I loved it. I loved it every second of it. I didn't mind it. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. Giselle has earned this, by the way, this year through her actions. Totally, I agree. Because we haven't seen this side of Giselle since last year with, like, Robin.

Yeah, there's petty stepping stones to get to something. Yeah, the petty stepping stones is perfect because she has earned it. She's had a great season. So if she's going to do this now in the middle of this to a newbie, love it. Loved every second of them. Yeah, it was the leaps that she goes to to make this a sticking point is something that only Giselle could do and have it somehow pan out. Other people would fumble the bag along the way.

She does not because she's like, you know, the first thing that rubbed me the wrong way, Karen introduced this group to Vivian. They've been friends for a long time. It's like, okay. So Stacey's supposed to check with her before promoting Vivian's shop on TV. Love that, Pettyness right away, yep. And then Stacey's like, I've known Vivian longer than I've known Karen. I'm like, that's valid.

And Wendy's like, this is a weird sticking point, but okay, let's roll with this whole thing. You should have reached out to Karen to ask. And then she goes, and also, what the fuck not one time did you say do you want to be on stage with a dog i thought that was weird it was weird it's very bizarre like hey but hey we're going to go meet at uh vivians to make sure we get our dresses so that we can walk and we're going to be walking with a dog oh you thought the invite was weird yeah your team joselle here yeah what that was bizarre she didn't ask them up front like hey by the way do you guys want to walk up here do you want to walk with the dog

you're taking as i i would feel like an asshole if i didn't want to do it it's a you You're trying to get it. Maybe I don't want to do it. Maybe I just want to sit in the crowd. Do you hate foster animals? Nope. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, I knew you were going to spin it into this. It's pretty easy to spin.

You need to ask everybody. You hate dogs? In a normal setting, hey, by the way, do you want to walk in this fashion show? Well, this is an easy conversation that doesn't need to be turned into it. Why didn't you ask me first? I'm saying Giselle, like, blew it out of proportion. I know what she's doing. Uh-huh.

And I appreciate it. And when did she send the invites? What is it? The day before? I didn't know that you hate dogs. I love dogs It doesn't sound like it Yeah

Doesn't sound like it Let's go see Here your dog goes to Right now You want to go see Who Louis goes to Definitely come over to me No shot

Thousand percent No shot Because I show him love By the You have a baby You love your baby More than you love your dog It's a wild turn

You keep my family's name Out of your fucking mouth I'm about to Will Smithia You bitch You know where I was I'm rattled now Oh The whole point

That she's just trying to cause a stink because she's upset about the Mia stuff, which I get. And I also appreciate how she was able to kind of meet this whole story together into this. And she's like, I didn't know you were into charities. The best one. That is by far the best comment. Imagine somebody having Wendy's response to it too. It's like, what? Yeah. Imagine like a human being having a firm stance against charitable donations. This whole thing is very weird to me because I didn't even know you cared about charities. And I had to say, I'm like, what?

And then she goes, you did donate to mine. I'm like, oh, nice. Like, there was people online, too, that were going to the G&A event to try to get like apparel or something and, like, maybe donate. The whole website's down. Oh, really? They're like, oh, yeah, look at this. And I'm like, it's still funny.

Leave it alone. It's funny as shit, especially considering, Giselle, you kicked her out. Yeah. Why would she donate? Like, the easiest way to get a donation is not kick somebody out. Yeah. But, you know, it's a bummer. because Ashley did go to the van with the QR code.

Clearly nobody used it. So they had the opportunity to donate. That's a good point. It was just, it was a great scene. And for her to tap out of the fashion show and say, you didn't ask if I was allergic or if I had PTSD, what if I got bit by a dog? This is when Stacey showed up too.

Yeah, I know. Do you have either of those things? Yeah, she's like, I might. I might. You don't know. You didn't ask. I got bit by a dog when I was a kid. And then you go to confession, she goes, I might have lied.

Ha! I'm like, this is great. It's great. This is great. It finally fell into this. like beautiful little like campy scene where it's just so funny like nobody's really being hurt in the scene

there's no emotional torture we're not talking about kids or anything it's just petty bullshit that I love this is what makes housewives great but this is another reminder of what this show has there are pieces here and if you weave together the scenes that we've talked about emphatically

all of them have been mealless they've all been just multiple ladies in the group having a chit chat having a petty moment like this is what we live for and it's so easy production i hope somebody from production listens to us i hope so i really i really do because yeah i shit on them but like for fuck's sake yeah you have a good product i do not see a scene like this and say wow what's this scene missing that's making it so good two people yeah two people but whatever it even leads to a

great statement from stacey where she's like karen just wants yes woman around her i'm like she does Yeah. So the way you got there was kind of strange, and that's Giselle's fault by setting this whole thing up. But you are correct in that, where she does want troops around her that are going to prop her up no matter what. So you see, this is kind of a coming of age episode for Stacey. It's like a Pokemon evolution.

Yeah. Yeah, sure. I like that. I love Pokemon. So let's use that. And that is like legitimately what you're seeing. You're watching Stacey step into the next level of being a housewife. Correct.

She's tried to be nice. She's starting to recognize that you can't always be nice and shit gets petty and you got to be able to combat it, I thought she handled herself pretty well. She handled herself very well. Yeah, I thought she did a good job, but we get to Eddie and Wendy, and this is actually really cool, especially considering where the Dr. Wendy show started. Remember when we were talking about that originally? Oh, yeah.

Just like, I don't know, I don't know what this is. We're going to read this space. What's the show going to be about? I don't know. What's it called? I don't know. Something with my name in it. Okay.

Legitigic put it to Dr. Wendy. Yeah, something. Yeah, Dr. Wendy show. Works. But. for her to secure Corrine Jean-Pierre, KJP, this is a big deal.

You get to go to the White House. I love fucking Happy Eddie is my guy. Like him coming outside with a shit-eating grin on his face and he's like, all... Yeah, he's like, this is a stand-up moment. We've got to stand-up for this one. This is awesome.

And it, I mean, it genuinely is really fucking cool. And to see the show go from... He just wanted to say I got off the film with the White House, by the way. 100%, which I don't blame him for her. It's a cool line. It's a cool sentence to say. Yeah.

So for him to say that and relay the information to her she secured kjp i mean it was really cool and i that interview is obviously out already so you can go watch it and see her do her thing but again to watch the the evolution of the dr wendy show nobody saw it coming nope but here we are she's in the fucking white house it's a beautiful thing tip the cap nice job nice job dr wendy but let's uh let's finish the episode on a on a bad note with uh mia yeah okay cool that's what we have to do yeah because we have from the cast members that are doing a nice job this season, we have had relationship problems,

a relationship pow-out to figure out the problems. We've had a real view of that relationship falling apart. We've had petty nonsense amidst the housewives over an argument about walking with dogs at a fashion show. That is a perfect episode. And then you throw on top of that a great scene where one of the housewives on the show had a dream for their own thing

and now they're going to the White House to see that dream come to. fruition. Yeah. What more do you need? Could have ended the episode there. That would have been a lovely. And we do, we've already kind of shared a look that this scene is pretty interesting.

It is. This scene's extremely interesting because of Stacey's role in this scene. Again, the evolution of a housewife, if you will, because they're talking. Of course, Mia leads it off Gordon spiraling. He seems to always be spiraling, except when we see him. Then he seems okay. Gordon's spiraling. I literally wrote, yeah, sure.

Yeah. uh-huh and whatever you say you know she's upset at gordon for sharing personal family matters that's the most hypocritical thing i've heard on bravo and i've heard some crazy shit in the tenure of our podcast yeah you brought this to the world mia much worse way a horrible way at the gna event the way that gna event the way that gordon brought it to the show is a father standing up for fatherhood yes and not being painted as some manic person that has a lot of problems. That puts his kids in danger.

That puts his kids in danger. That's, yeah. You brought this to our attention. And now you're going to say, I can't believe that he would bring personal matters up in front of other people. No, you opened up Pandora's box. He's just defending himself. He's just defending himself.

For like six seasons now. Yes. And you've also... You joke about it. You've... You put your fucking children in the spotlight this season. They're going to have to watch this shit someday. There's...

Again, if you watch Beverly Hills, this... will go to show you an eight-year-old. Doret's eight-year-old tracked down an Instagram post about their parents being separated. You don't think that Jeremiah, when he's fucking 14 years old with a laptop or a phone, is going to be like, hmm, Potomac, Mia. Go back and watch up.

You can watch Season 1 episode 1 of O.C. Is that 17 years ago? Yeah, dude, it just sucks. And that's what we talked about the entire season. It just sucks. So for her to say that you brought Family Matters up on TV, It's so dumb, but Stacey steps in and goes, I just felt like you got ganged up on and friends should seek to understand,

not put you down. It's like, again, dude, you have not been around me enough. At this point, I'm like, what are you doing, Stace? Yeah, it's, I'm like, you're taking a misstep, and this is important. It's important to have these moments because she's going to learn from, I do think she'll learn from it. For the beginning of this. Yeah.

I'm okay with how it ends. Oh, me too. Fully fine with that. Yeah, me too. She's getting, because now she's, she's not. She's now forced into drama, and she's going to have to figure out how to kind of wheel and deal her way out of being on the wrong side of history, which we've seen many housewives. Oh, yeah, they can do it any time. But sometimes they falter.

So watching Stacey climb out of this one's going to be interesting because she, I was like, ooh, you shouldn't have said that. She lets slip to Mia about Karen's warnings about Mia. That one, I'm like, all right, that's going to bite you in the ass a little bit, but at least. it's about Mia. Karen's going to be pissed off at you, but you're trying to get back at Karen right now. That's at least, like, relevant. And, you know, in the conversation

where you've been forced towards Mia because you took her side, quote, unquote, you were just being nice, whatever. But then Karen decided to get some retribution. So now you're being forced to Mia. You're sharing a little bit of information about your friend Karen about how she feels about Mia.

Nothing that we don't already know. Yeah, this is relative to the conversation. Your biggest misstep was dragging or one of your best moves. your best moves, yeah. Because you're now stirring the pot. You're now getting involved, and we don't hate that. Yep. I figured we had the same outlook here.

Uh-huh. As far as the shit you're about to have to deal with, huge misstep. As far as value to the show, great decision. Yep. Because you tell Mia that Karen warned you about Wendy, saying that she's self-absorbed, only out for herself. Meanwhile, you get a cut scene to Wendy, who's like, I need to invite Karen to the White house. It's a whole circle moment. She invited me to get the key to the city. So this is

like my way to give back to her. Flashback, it's like Wendy doesn't know these things. And Mia defends Wendy, of course, because it makes her look good. Yeah, that's all she was doing. Yeah. That's not because she actually cares about. Not at all. Not even kind of. And Stacey's like Karen tried to poison her about Wendy. And she did. She did. And that's the other part of this you can look at is this is technically Stacy being a girl's girl. Yes. And it is also technically a misstep by Karen. Correct. By warning a newbie about somebody else thinking

I don't know who's going to come after me and this is how I viewed it. This is before the season. We already know about the DUI. We already know what kind of storyline and what arc she's going to be on for Karen. She could have just been trying to garner support from a newbie saying watch out for this one, Mia, who's

obviously going to go after Karen, and watch up for this one. It's interesting that she was thinking about Wendy though. I know. Because I figured, yeah, you might want to say look out for Giselle based on her track record with Robin and everything else, unless she already talked to her, look out for somebody else, but I didn't expect her to say look out for Wendy

because Wendy always has Karen's back. I know. So it just seems really odd, and this is how Karen actually feels? That's strange. Especially, again, Stacey came on as Karen's friend, so I could see her divulging a little bit more to her than she would.

But, yeah, I thought that was weird, and I'm really curious how that's going to play out. Yeah. So, yeah, that's why we said in the beginning, this is a strange episode, and it does embody what this season has been, bright spots littered with bullshit that we don't want to watch. Yep. Get rid of the bullshit, and you have a decent show. I agree. Let's get to some questions.

First up here from Bridget J. What does next season look like to you? Me and Jacqueline are gone. Yep. You have this cast return. You bring one newbie in as a full-timer, and you find a friend of. Yep, fair enough. From Jay Bay, the Hut, 713, power rank top three worst dudes in Potomac.

Oh. Michael Darby's. Michael Darby will always be number one. Juan Dixon number two. Yep. Fair. Agreed so far. Like number three.

God, but TJ still fucks me up. T.J. is an asterisk. Yeah. Because T.J., for all things, like, yeah, he's weird. Yeah, I think he's playing Stacey. But we haven't seen any, like, overly damning scenes with him. Ink would be three, I guess. But I don't even want to put him on the list because he doesn't deserve to be on the list.

I think that's my list is one Michael Darby, two, Juan Dixon, three, Greg. Yeah. I think that's a fair love. And that's entirely Greg's doing. Yep. we got a lot of proclamations on here a lot of people just waiting for the season to end a lot of getting rid of Mia I'm done with Mia I'm done with Mia no more Jacqueline fair fair fair let's see somebody asked a couple of questions here so let's go with

Drew Blackwell photo said why on earth did Stacy need to ask permission to work with Karen's friend that is I think that's more Karen than Giselle by the way Yeah, Karen would a thousand percent feel that way. Well, you saw the scene. Talk to me beforehand. Like, where they're both? And also, what were they doing? Were they getting tea?

They're both, like, dressed up and like... Yeah, right? They didn't have their hats on. Yeah. I don't know what they... Is that just a scene that got cut? I've no, I think it had to have been. Hey, we're going to do a scene at a tea shop.

You're going to wear some crazy hats. Maybe the ones that you got in the first episode. Oh, yeah. A little callback. Oh, this sucks. There's nothing here. Yeah. I'd rather be over there.

Yep. Let's go over the station. That's probably what happened. And then you see her reaction, and I guarantee she's like, how dare she go to my friend? It's like, well, she's her friend too. We'll do one more here. This is another one that's more of a statement, but it is relevant to all of our shows from S.K. Hara, don't go to law school. I would love to be your behind-the-scenes legal consultant.

See, we've got people pining for that. If you think either of us would go to law school. Yeah, I was just goofing. I was just saying just so I could go to law prom to see if it was real. We wouldn't go to law school if we were of, like, a younger age. Of age. Well, I mean, you know, fresh out of college, I still wouldn't go to the... We don't like school.

No, schools. Schools for fools. Look at me. That's a good way to end it. That's our show. The bro's got to go. Later. Goodbye.

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