Bros & Shows - Austen and Craig Break Up? (Southern Charm Full Recap)

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

What’s up Bros? In today’s episode of Southern Charm, things still feel disjointed on this show. Friendships are fleeting, everyone seems like they’re just showing up for work. It’s lacking for some reason. But we pick up with JT and Craig sitting down for coffee. Craig reiterates that he heard him say the B word, and JT plays it cool in hopes that the truth will come out. Honestly, from what we have seen from JT other than his rough start, we don’t believe he deserves a whole lot of hate this season. Molly and She meet up and it appears the two of them are getting a litttttle flirty despite Shep and Sienna allegedly getting more serious. Austen brings Audrey to meet his parents for the first time, and answers a phone call from Madison letting him know about JT and Craig’s coffee date. Salley has everyone over for a party and her and Taylor have a sit down that ends with Salley telling Taylor that everyone told her not to trust her… Taylor may not be everyones favorite, and maybe Gaston sucks, but she’s still catching a lot of heat for stuff that the majority of this cast has done in the past. Craig and Austen sit down to chat and Craig drops a bomb on him when he mentions buying Austen out of Pillows and Beer… Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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victory Mondays we've had in a long time. And I would be remiss not to say that, especially considering I'm surprised you're alive. So go birds. I've got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Bros and shows. Those and shows. I got to have me my Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I am a co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only grumpy goots. The grumpy gush gooots. What's up, dude? First off, go birds.

Go birds. A hell of a day yesterday. Yeah. I didn't lose my voice out. That's good. But you were boots on the ground. We got a full-blown snowstorm during the game. Some would argue snowball number two.

It was a, look. we're here to talk about Southern Charm. Don't get it twisted. But it is playoff season in Philadelphia. We are in the NFC championship game next week. So you're not to deal with it because go birds. That game took years off of my life. I can't imagine being there in the snow while watching that.

I was at home doing laps. It was fucking hard to get through that game. Yeah, four of us went. We just kept switching seats the entire time. Oh, good. try to get the juju going um yeah dev changed her her shirt at one point uh i took off my hat at one point i think that's what finally did it i so the funny thing was i didn't have my hood up the whole time and the guys that sit behind us also had hoods on but did not put them up and right

before sequins run in the snow in the fourth quarter we all put our hoods up so oh that was okay i was yeah so you're welcome everybody or that's the thing or you hate me because you're not a birds fan but either way you're welcome yeah you're welcome because we're one step closer to the goddamn Super Bowl, but we've got to get through next week first with the commanders. But yeah, Victory Monday shoots is a little seepy, cranky, happy boy. There's a lot of emotions going on.

Yeah, there's a lot of emotions, way too many emotions, honestly. So I'm going to funnel that directly to Southern Charm, and we're going to have a great time. Yes, yes, we are. Yes, we are. But before we jump into this week's Southern Charm, I need to echo what we talked about last week,

there's just something off. I feel a sense of uneasiness when I watch each episode. Is that just me or is that, are you feeling that? It's hard to say. I mean, we just talked about my emotions being all over the place. It didn't feel as uneasy this week. Yeah, so last week definitely felt weird. We talked about that in our last episode for Southern Charm.

It just, there's a weird feeling like a dark cloud that's hanging. over it. And I can't really pinpoint why. We thought that maybe it was because Austin and Craig are at odds. But everybody seems off. It just has a weird feeling. And now I'm feeling off because they're feeling off. So it's secondhand coming to me. And I don't, I don't care for it. I'll tell you what. You're a second hand off. You know, okay. So the more I thought, I thought about it a lot. I've thought about trying to pinpoint what's going on with this season, why it feels a little different why it's not quite hitting the same because it's still solid right i look forward to it every week i'm enjoying the season i think what it is everyone seems to be giving

like just vague answers it doesn't seem like anyone's fully bought in it seems like every friendship right now is disjointed and when i broke it down more i'm like okay well there's merit to that because shep austin and craig are still weird because of shep shit over the summer right or last year. Craig and Austin are weird, obviously. Taylor's weird with everybody. You've got two newcomers in the group. So they're getting their feet wet. They're trying to learn the ropes. They're trying to find their click. There's no solid friend groups. There's no three people you can point. Yeah, maybe that's it. You know, usually we have clicks. We're like, all right, Austin, Craig, and the boys are hanging out. Madison and her crew are hanging out. You know, she's got Miss Patricia, whatever. There's not that solid ground of, okay,

This is a crew. Everyone's kind of floating around and they're cool with one person, but not cool with another person, but that person's cool with that person. So they're not totally cool with that person. It's just disjointed right now. There's no flow. That's it. There's no flow.

There is no flow. And honestly, we haven't had the entire cast together since the first episode at the Carolina Cup. That's also true. That is a good point. We just get these little factions. We have conversations about things that happened when somebody wasn't there, whether it's Craig or J.T. or Austin or whoever it might be,

we're having these parties where, and I'm not going to say that JT's like a main character, but the party at Sally's house, the party at Sally's house in this episode, there's no reason why JT wouldn't be there. It doesn't really make a lot of sense. And then we are constantly talking about Taylor and Gastone, and it's like, oh, where's your boyfriend? Why is he not showing up? Now, I know, obviously, it would be very bizarre if you were at Sally's house, but he's not showing up to anything. And then we just have one-off scenes with just the two of them talking.

And it's like, what is going on here? they can't all be together it's sort of it's very similar to a uh a fractured housewife show where yeah like potomac last year now i'm not going to say it's as bad as that because that was one of the worst seasons of television i've ever watched but it has that feel to it where you guys can't all be together whether it's not you know inviting someone specific or you guys are in a fight it's just really weird yeah and from what we've gotten from j t this season i understand that he might have thrown the B word out there somebody somebody message Justin said do you think it's when he said savage because he said she didn't take the cane or

whatever savage do you think that was misheard as bitch savage that's but I'm honestly trying to like figure it out because here's the thing with JT we are known JT haters we all wait for two years she's she's savage she's a bitch she's savage see she's savage she's savage she's savage see but it could she's so funny I hate that we have to do this though yeah well it doesn't track and here's the thing okay JT's not our favorite JT is not anybody's favorite but from what JT's given this season he does not deserve the cold shoulder like he's getting the scenes that we have him in he's not that well I mean he deserves it from Madison that's for sure for Madison absolutely because of

the implication. Yes, without a doubt. That's a standalone. Okay. And if she wants Craig and other people not talk to him because of that specific instance, fine. The bitch thing is hearsay. I don't think that should be held over him. But when you see them in these scenes, we haven't had like a JT weirdo scene in a while. And it's like he doesn't deserve to get blacklisted from every party. We need the cast together. Whether they're annoying or not shows function better when the cast is together whether they like each other or not's irrelevant you need to put them all in the same place and we've been avoiding that because there's fractures in the group and that's a dangerous place to go we've seen it as we just said we've seen it in housewife shows when you're

fractured it makes for tough content so i don't know that's what my brain was doing the whole time like why does this feel so weird yeah that's definitely part of it and uh you know we pretty much start right off in this episode with that and talking about that with craig and j t sitting down together just getting some coffee and i did think that it was weird last week that craig immediately while talking to ship said austin's going to hate this and i didn't really get it i'm like whatever like figure out what it's about and i feel like once you've explained it to austin he'll be like well that's insane that's jt i don't know if he said it or not but kind of weird that you know this is all going around and you guys had to sit down to talk about it but austin later in the episode

was furious so i was really confused about that that that didn't really make a whole lot of sense that was a little too petty for me but you can tell that Craig has no idea what's going on just zero clue walking in like all right what is this about i'm going to sit down with j t jt's just letting him talk for a little bit and it goes into the theory that i think i had last week where i don't think that craig is saying that jt called her a bitch at the golf simulator i think that craig is saying he heard her say it at the carolina cup because he's still in this scene does not say anything about the golf simulator everybody just assumes that that's when it happens and when jt was talking about it but i said before i'm like there is a chance that he was walking away

when Patricia refused the cane at the Carolina Cup and said something under his breath. And maybe Craig heard that. Because even then, Craig is talking about the Carolina Cup way more, and he doesn't even mention the golf simulator. So I think there is something lost in translation here. And editing is obviously pointing us in a direction of no audio found, which is still very funny.

But I don't think that's what he's talking about. And we still don't even get to the bottom of it. No, he's like, I got beef with you. And it's this whole bitch conversation. And when they start getting in, Craig stands by what he heard, j t stands by that he didn't say it yeah but j t's plan is to just play it cool sit tight and let the truth come to light at some point which is again different than the jt we've seen in the past so when he's doing that he's not causing a scene he's like all right dude whatever we're good

like high fives it out and just goes to confessional like we'll wait and see let him have more time on the show which i never thought i would say but if he's performing that way like like he's not doing the other shit that annoys all of us like yeah i don't see the reason that he's getting blacklisted but we move on and we get molly shepp and turtle the rescue dog turtle somebody adopt that dog is very cute but shep's driving by like pulls over hops out of the car is like i was driving by i'm like oh who's that babe and this scene it seemed kind of flirty to me On, like, Molly, Molly clearly states like, yeah, he's a catch. I, he's up here for me.

So she's definitely interested. Shepp was giving it back, I thought. He was definitely giving it back. And, you know, he talked about his girlfriend at some point in the conversation, but he was very flirty. And I think in, like, his actual nature is pretty flirtatious to begin with. So I, look, it took me a second here because I was already laughing. I love the, uh, the setup production.

Oh, I was just driving by. We're just scooting around the corner. and I saw some babe walking a dog. I was like, I got to pull over and check her out. Very unlikely that you are miced up and they have audio of you in your car talking if this wasn't planned. But they tried. He wasn't miced up. Yeah, he was.

He was not. Go back and listen. You can hear him so well. Come on. They have a boom mic then. They have a boom bike. So now he's just driving around. He's like, who's that day with production?

Here's this salty Magoutes from yesterday. Look, if you go back and watch the scene, he projected well, I don't think he was. miced up in the car i mean it's irrelevant they knew she was going to be there the scene was set up all right i thought you were going to try to gaslight me in the sinking thinking that it was organic okay i don't have the energy pal but good boy well you don't call me that don't call me that ever again um you just threw everything off i don't even know where i am the interesting thing about her talking about herself and then she brings it back so i was like all right she is a little more self-wear because it's sad to listen to her talk about herself.

She's like, you know, no one's cat calling anymore because I'm getting up there. You know, she's 36. And then she says she's been celibate for a couple of years because of age. And then she's like, you know, I gained weight, which again, is so crazy because she looks fantastic. But she follows it up with this is Charleston. It's a land of Peter Pan garbage men that I don't have time for. She's like, yes, I could go out and get laid in heartbeat. I don't want to because all these dudes suck.

I'm like, ah, there it is. Okay, that makes more sense to me. It's a car call. Yeah, probably a good call. Maybe date outside. Everyone that's doing the best is dating outside of Charleston. Correct. Even Austin's doing better now and she's from Charlotte.

Yep. So I don't know where Brett's from, but he's definitely not from there. So again, it appears that the problem is intermingling within Charleston. But speaking of, yeah, yeah, there could be a blueprint there. No, you might be odd to something. It could be a blueprint there. stop being incestuous in uh in charleston if the person you're dating has hooked up with more than three of your friends don't date them that should be the new rule on southern charm and southern

hospitality yeah anywhere else it would be you know like one would be the cutoff but charleston we'll give you a little bit we'll give you three you got a three person buffer you know more than three that's that's a problem but brett and madison quick uh check in here on his appointment and again, not sharing a whole lot. You can tell Madison wants a little bit more, but she respects it, which I respect. And I just, these scenes are tough because we don't have a whole lot of information.

You're just having a respect off with Madison. She respects it, so I respect it. I do respect it. And I respect that you respect that she respects it. But what else are you going to do? I'm just saying, I wish that we had more info. Obviously, it's their info to give. We just, oh, for sure.

I just want Brett to be. okay and like watching Madison struggle through trying to pull information out of him but then also understanding like he's not ready to talk about it or maybe he doesn't have the info it's just shitty like it sucks I hope that he's good and we haven't heard a whole lot of info regarding this whole thing except you know she appreciated the well wishes yeah I think it's a bit of a longer journey and and you know that they're consistent with it they're not really sharing a whole lot the fact that he's even really sharing it on the show to begin with given the circumstances given all of the things going on and really their reaction currently i'm surprised he's even telling us

on the show like obviously madison's going to be a little out of it and she's going to make her mind's going to wander elsewhere so it's good to have that context but yeah i mean when it comes to things like this like the fact that they're sharing it all is great we want them to be okay but we don't need to know anymore if they don't want to share yeah you know what we're not digging there are weirdos there's enough weirdos out there that are probably clamoring for more information it's like back off not your life no we don't need to dig and speculate on this one let's just wait and see what comes out but taylor rod and tyler get together for a little belated birthday dinner for taylor and chicken parm a little chicken parm at the house nothing wrong with that but they're going over

you know the party and why i got canceled she's like yeah after talking to my mom i just didn't want to be around people which is fine you know giving everything she's gone through again we talked about it last week where i think a lot of people not forgot but Yeah, I forgot, I guess, that everything she's gone through with her brother passing away and, you know, Shep again, fucked her over royally. Royally, yeah. I think that my whole stance on Taylor, which is crazy to me, this whole season has shifted. I feel bad for Taylor now at this point. And I feel bad for her in the current situation because she seems to really like Gaston.

She's talking to Rod about it. And Rod's like, well, you know, apparently Gaston, called Sally and was talking shit to her and then Taylor's like what the fuck is that like she called him which given her reaction later by the way I do think she called him correct so the craziest part to me was then reading on socials and stuff people seem to be taking Sally's side I'm more on team Taylor here I don't know if Gastone's a good dude he doesn't strike me as a stand-up citizen no he definitely doesn't I think a lot of it has to just do with the history of Taylor there's a lot of people watching

the show that just had enough of her last year and the year before. Yeah. We're kind of over it and like, yes, we understand the implication of what Shep did to you. We get all of that. But you're still doing the same shit. There's no growth there. You're still like sort of

gaslighting yourself into thinking that Gastone's a good boy. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. How is that? You're stuck on. I don't know why. Oh, my God. I was waiting to call you a good boy again. I don't know. I just kind of slipped out. But, yeah, she's gaslighting herself into thinking that he's a good man and he's going to be a good boyfriend.

I think that's maybe where I was going to go, but he's not. I mean, like, we watch enough of these shows. Anytime that there's smoke, there's fire. If he's still even contacting, if he's accepting a call from Sally, fucked. Like, I know Charleston's weird, but like, no, absolutely not. And we know that, you know, there's exes involved and Sally's boyfriend also hooked up with Taylor. The whole thing is bizarre. Don't get me started on Andrew yet because, Jesus.

Christ. I can't stand that guy. I don't like that guy. But either way, I think that people are just over Taylor and Sally is new. So they're giving her a chance, which, you know, whenever people, Bravo fans typically give people a chance, it means that they're going to ride or die for them for a couple of weeks and then maybe change their tune. So we'll have to see how it goes. But I think that everybody's kind of realizing together that Gastone is not a good dude. So we're going to be on the other side of it. But at the same time, like, I don't know. I need more info. other than a he said she said from a cast member, a new cast member of the show that I'm starting to not trust. So I'm taking her word for it over Taylor's word for it. There's just a lot of nuances. Then you add to the fact

Taylor's mom seems to be pretty supportive of this Gaston guy to the point that she calls him at what point I guess and Taylor's mom's a bit of a weirdo though. Yeah, okay, fine. But my point we saw that last year with Olivia. That's, oh yeah, with the lake and the praying and stuff. But

Taylor gets a surprise invite to Sally's housewarming party. Yep. I don't believe that this was a nice invite. I think this was a shady fucking invite. I didn't like it especially. Shady or producers made her do it. I don't know which, but still shady. Maybe a little bit of both. I don't know. I don't trust Sally, dude. I don't like her. There's something there. There's something shady there. I don't see it, but you know what? I'll support you. I respect. I'll

take that side. I just, I won't go as far as I don't like her yet. I I think there's something shady there. So we'll stay tuned. But we get to meet what? At what point do we just let adults do what they're going to do? Well, no, you brought this up in the past, dude. Not just with Paige and Craig with other people where it's like at some point, it's like you've got to stop trying to give advice to certain people because it's like they are grownups.

I think it's just so funny. Like we have we have gone so deep into this. Yes, usually when it's guys, I'm like, nah, that dude's definitely shady. But now we're even going into girls. We're like, Sally could be shady, who knows? Sally is shady, dude. I don't know. I don't trust her.

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And that could be wishful thinking, but it does seem to me like he's actually growing. He's trying to do a little bit better, which would make sense as well with why he's having a hard time with Craig because he wants to be friends with Craig. He also, I believe, looks up to Craig in some ways, but he also feels discarded by Craig. So all of this is Austin's arc this season is making a lot of sense to me. It makes a lot of sense, which is more than we can say for the past. And anytime we get the opportunity to roll the Austin's past relationship blunders real. Oh, you always have to see Madison walking out of the bedroom.

Everything that he's done, it's just so good. Having all of those clips just ready to go whenever we need them is the best. There's also 20 other ones you can use. Oh, yeah, there's so many. But still, Austin is growing, I think. I think. it's his own doing or other people are you know i guess hands off but forcing him to do it i don't know and i'm not going to speculate as to what's going on there i just wanted to be a better boy you know

yeah just be a be a good boy why why is that this episode i hate this you're you know the show made me this making me feel weird now you're making me feel weird if i feel weird everybody has to feel weird yeah i don't like it at all but madison calls with rye and lets Austin know that Craig was spotted getting coffee with J.T. Spotted, huh? Yeah, spotted.

Somebody saw him on the street and called Madison. I thought this was so stupid. This was crazy, but Austin's reaction. Shepp told someone, that's what happened. Or JT told people. Who cares? Or both.

Spotted is very funny. Yeah, spotted having coffee. And the way that Austin takes it is as like a fuck you to him because he just said to Craig like we don't even get coffee or drinks or anything anymore you never hang out with me and then he's going to get see that coming i so i did a little bit i don't think that it needed to be this big of a deal but again when you get to the party later Craig did a terrible job explaining the

situation he just said that there was things that weren't resolved and it's like just tell him i said he called patricia bitch he wanted to tell his side of the story but i i i i i I was going to say pat and then I was like patricia that's a that sounds like a name of a band patricia patricia but yeah I don't think Craig did himself any favors with the explanation I think that Austin is just hypersensitive right now because he feels like he's losing his best friend so he took this to heart I get why Madison's upset because sure JT implied that they were going to have an affair in Jamaica and all that stupid shit so Madison being upset I get Madison being upset with Craig for going to the thing I get it Austin I think he's just

just sensitive right now to anything Craig's going to do that seems shady or seems like it's against him. He's going to take it personally. And honestly, given the conversation that happens at the end, can you blame the guy? Yeah, no, definitely not. And I think that I still have an issue separating what I would do and what I would think versus what these guys would think. I have to put myself in their brains, which is very tough to do for people like Austin who, you know, we think very differently. I don't think that I would really care that much. It'd be like, oh, well, there's probably a reason to it. And instead, he went right off the defense. So I didn't see this coming at all. I laughed a little bit because it is a little over

the top. But I think that's the place that he's in right now. He feels like he's being rejected by Craig. He's being pushed away. Obviously, the scene at the end is very tough to watch. But he's sitting there feeling dejected. And then to find out that Craig is having coffee with your mortal enemy who in the beginning of the season, he's like, yeah, whatever it's JT, I don't really care. Now you can see his actual feelings. Like no. Well, that's also because Craig told him that JT was talking shit at the golf simulator. So that was more recent than the Carolina Cup when they were

quote unquote fine. Yeah, I think it just points to it's a very sensitive Boston right now. He's losing his friend and he doesn't really know what to do. And you're going to get these reactions out of him when he hears like you said, he's having coffee with his mortal enemy won't even have coffee with me. Fuck that guy.

Little bitch. Such a weird dynamic too because he walks out of his girlfriend meeting his parents for the first time to talk to his ex-girlfriend about a situation going on with his friend or maybe not friends meeting with his mortal enemy and he's out there having a real conversation away from everybody else about this with madison very funny audrey doesn't seem to care that much thankfully it could be much worse than it is but it's really not it's charleston so who cares it's just charleston it's just charleston thanks you know hashtag charleston it's a charleston thing yeah it's a charleston

think it's just a Charleston thing but we get the sallies for the party set up it's her new house tired of paying rent hey i get it i hear you been there yeah shooter still doing it look it's part of the process i like paying rent that's the thing some people enjoy you do that you have a landlord people take care your maintenance and shit like that i get it i rented for the majority of my life but she got herself a house and we get to learn a little bit more about her she was 22 and engaged to a guy that had the house he had the cars but everything was in his name 25 days before the wedding, she gets a DM that this dude is cheating on her. So, to her credit, she goes, fuck that, calls it off, bounces.

We've had single Sally ever since from what it sounds like, and she's kicking ass as far as her career and everything goes, so she don't need no man. So, kudos to her for that. Does she need no man? Or she needs a, she needs a man, Drew. Yeah. Not a good boy.

Dude, I do not care for it. I like him less than you saying, good boy. Yeah, and the funny thing is he didn't do anything that was incredibly bad or awful. There's something really weird. The vibes are so off on this guy and it made me feel strange. And again, I don't like feeling weird. I don't know, no, because then you force it on other people. This is a real thing, everybody that's listening.

He, you think that this. This is just for the podcast. He does this shit in person. If he's in a weird mood, he fucking makes it weird. And then he smiles and giggles, and it will just, like, walk away and disappear and come back in an hour. That's the Magooner that I've grown up with. It fucking drives me up a wall. But before we get to Andrew, we get to Craig and Paige.

And they're FaceTiming. And again, you know, I don't like to do this ever. But how much of I do, I obviously believe that there is a problem. them between Craig and Austin completely separate from anybody else they're just they've gone separate ways i think Craig is too focused on business and can't see the friendship through the woods and i think that austin honestly dude at this point i'm struggling to find out where austin's at fault here with Craig like especially after this episode to me it seems so blatantly obvious that he just wants to be friends with Craig again and Craig just doesn't have the time for

it but when i watch scenes like this let's say Craig's having those notions he's getting irritated about the podcast. He's getting irritated about Austin's way of life. He's getting irritated about their friendship overall. Then you have page telling Craig, essentially, you don't fucking need this guy. You guys wouldn't even be friends without pillows and beer, without being on the show together. At what point do you dissolve pillows and beer entirely? Strike out on your own with like Craig and friends or something like that. I think that what's going on is Craig has turned so much into business, Craig. That's it. There is nothing else. And there is stresses that come into starting something like a business with your friends because you have different

outlooks tell me about it yeah because you have different outlooks you have different schedules you've got different things going on i you know for somebody like them i would imagine it's probably a lot easier because you know i don't austin just kind of sells beer so like what else is he doing but i guess he's doing too much for his social life Craig is working a lot so once we cross that line into the business world Craig is immediately putting pressure on it it's making Austin weird it's pissing Craig off because he's not this isn't what he wanted to do but I doubt that Austin has really changed that much since they started doing the podcast like it's probably just as much a priority now as it was before but Craig is now feeding into it even more thinking oh this is a business that

we really need to like manage and we need to work on it we need to make it go better and Austin's like I'm okay with how it is and that's okay that is fine but they don't fucking communicate that's the problem they never communicate anything and then when they finally bottle everything up and They're like, oh, yeah, we really need to talk about this. One of them goes way too far. That's what happens. So it's just not conducive to a good relationship. It's not conducive to a good business.

It's not conducive to really anything, honestly. They're just stuck. And that's kind of how they are. And that's how they've always been. It's just now you're throwing a business into it. And Craig is freaking out because he's business, Craig. Yeah, I agree. I agree with everything you said.

It's just when you see the conversations being had this season specifically, you're not seeing a lot of, like, I'm not getting animosity and shit stirring from Austin. I'm getting him, like, pleading his case. Like, hey, dude, I missed the shit out of you. And Craig, like, it's falling on deaf ears. He's not understanding the root of it. He still thinks that.

And that could be past experiences. Like, it could be one of those things that at some point he's just fed up with it all. He doesn't want to give him the time of day. Yeah. Okay. Maybe. But when I watch the scenes with Austin, it's like, again, I'm seeing a dude that's like, I miss you.

Come back to me. how do we make this work so yes you're right they don't communicate very well that's the root of it all but i feel like that first conversation at craig's house austin did enough to communicate his side of things craig refused to hear it yeah i think that's fair to say yeah that's that's the vibe i get but now we get to our guy we get to sally and andrew and you know typically she's with a businessman the guy that's no bullshit no nonsense but this guy really likes to talk it's a big talker it's all about feelings there's something this is the guy

that brings his guitar to a party absolutely without a doubt yeah and there's just something snaky about him where it's like he gets away with being like oh I'm earthy I'm fucking calm I'm artsy and shit I got a hair tail I got a fucking

ternetail I'm here for a good time all the time and I'm going to take care of you because I also talk about feelings but meanwhile he's got 16 different chicks in his DMs and he's given the same spiel to each one of them, which is confirmed later by Taylor, where she's like, he wanted to be exclusive, but he was still like hooking up with a bunch of chicks. I'm like, I believe you. I 100% believe you. And if you pressed him about it, he'd be like, look, man, we're just animals. We're not

meant to be monogamous. He's that guy. Yeah, look, we don't know for sure if he's doing that with Sally, of course. Taylor finds herself in that situation all the time, though. She, like, invites that kind of craziness into her life. So I wasn't surprised by any of that. I just can't figure out what it is about this guy that I just plain out don't like. There's just so much there. He came on the screen. He didn't do anything yet.

And I already didn't like him. I don't know. I didn't like him. And then he, he's got a weird aura. Yeah. You got a bad aura. Yeah.

Something about you. It's been a bad aura. But he doesn't help his case because his first interaction with somebody other than Sally. Shep walks in. And he's like, oh, I think we've crossed paths. It's like, do you really want to talk to the guy that hooked up with your girlfriend? And Shep's like, oh, yeah, Sally, he's like, Ann Taylor.

I'm like, all right, dude, put your dick away, you fucking weirdo. Why are you flexing on Shep that you hooked up with two of his exes the first time you meet the guy? What a strange approach. What a slimy approach. Congrats on the sex. He only lasted two hours, as Sally said. So, yeah, that doesn't need to be spoken of. No, and we know with Shep, the actual coitus was probably less than five.

minutes. So it was an hour and 55 minutes of her trying to get him back out of the house into an Uber and go home to which he was bewildered by. So what a weird thing to do, especially in Charles. I feel like it's an unwritten rule. It's like we're not going to talk about exes because I know you probably hooked up with somebody

at this party. So let's just leave this lie. The Sally thing, if you want to make a joke about that, because she's present for it and she's also kind of like, yeah, whatever. She kind of like started that too because she even said, yeah, it's me. All right. Weird. sure weird but fine we'll leave it there but when you go further in andrew and he's like and

taylor i'm like fuck you you you you gross guy you're not a good boy and i don't care for it i don't like you your shirts or your goddamn ponytail andrew and something tells me you're going to prove us right at some point in this season time will tell but i think he wants he wants to project like golden retriever energy and he is not a good boy no he's more of uh what's a dog with like he looks like he's up to something he's cute but you're like hmm i don't trust him did you just say he's cute he's cute but i don't trust look he's not you think andrew's cute he's not my type okay but i could see what is your type let's get into that oh if i was to date a man um i i would imagine probably like similar to me you know

yeah yeah i would imagine i think so more masculine i think it's like looking in the mirror probably yeah that would make me happy as you know you fucking dick what about you who's your if you're dating somebody who's your type let me think I'd probably go

tall dark and handsome I think that's always a safe approach yeah I think I think I would go with probably masculine I don't know that's into it's a good long tan and handsome actually let's go sponge bob we'll go sponge bob straight out of toaster yep but anyway after that bizarre interaction Craig arrives and immediately you know

says hi to Austin but like high fives them and it loses focus and he's like what's up he's like sorry zoned out i'm like that's just kind of a dick move dude like that's such a weird thing to do even if you guys are at odds why would you why because Craig gets anxiety and we've seen this all the time he talks about his anxiety all the time so he was probably really anxious knowing he had to walk into this because it's the only time he's going to see Austin because he refuses to go on a one-on-one sit-down with him. So I'm going to go do this at Sally's housewarming party. I've got a real conversation for you, and I am nervous about it.

So I'm going to zone out, but I wasn't really zoning out. I was just stressing about the conversation. And then I told you I was zoning out to just downplay it. But it was just such a strange start to it. And you can tell that the energy is already off. Austin walks into this. He's nervous too because he hasn't seen Craig. He wants to talk to him about the JT thing.

He's really weird about it, but he's probably going to forgive him if he talks about it. and then he starts off like this, it's a guy, right? I feel bad for Austin right now. Yeah, same. That's all I'm getting to now at this point. I'm like, I'm just feeling bad for Austin

because I don't understand what's going on. But Whitney, Austin, Madison are talking about the J.T. coffee thing. Again, Madison, rightfully pissed off. She feels betrayed by Craig because of everything that J.T. implied about potential affairs, whatever. So she calls Craig over to have a little chit-chat. And Austin's like, dude, it felt like a gut punch. this was such an easy thing to explain away.

I get it. I just met up with him to try to figure out the bitch comment, whether he said it or not. That's all it was, no deeper than that. But this just shows how fractured their relationship is because the way he describes it, just digs the whole,

he's like, well, it just felt unresolved to me. And I'm a business owner in this town. Everybody knows, okay, and we love Craig. I'm not going to, I'm not going to say we're not Craig fans, but at the same time, it's like, dude, everyone knows about sewing down south. Everybody knows that you're crushing it.

Everybody knows how successful you are at this point in your life. No, one person named J.T. walking around Charleston badmouth, and he was not going to affect your business. No, you don't need to remind all of these people that you've come up with who have stood by you, by the way, in some pretty shitty times. You don't need to remind them that you're a business owner either. That line to me stuck out more so. where now I'm thinking, okay, does he just think he's outgrown as this entire friend group?

He's on to bigger and better things than that time for this shit. It's a possibility. I think Austin put it the best way what he said. What do you think JT's going to walk by and throw a brick through your window? And like he laughed it off a little bit, but is that really what you're thinking right now? Like you're really talking about JT, who is, by the way, on a reality TV show that you're on, all of your businesses out there. The things that you did years ago is bad for business and it's not biting you in the ass right now.

so why do you care like that is just not a good excuse it's jt it's just bizarre to me that he didn't go into this conversation saying yeah he wanted to sit down to clear the air because he's upset that i'm telling people that he called patricia a bitch and i didn't realize that he was upset about it so we talked about it i heard what i heard stand on business craig go ahead do it but that's all you have to do just explain that and then move on because now you can be like yeah i don't know i'd rather just not deal with it so i just had to sit down with them and you know that it is what it is it's j t i don't want to have to like rev him up and go crazy like he did last year i'm afraid of that so let's just leave it at that keep him at an arm's length and then that's where we are

that's all you have to say everybody's sitting there i don't care what whitney thinks madison and uh austin sitting there will agree with that and just say yeah all right that makes sense bizarre dude very weird dude let's keep him far away from all of us until he works his way back in and apologize to everybody and if madison's over him completely rightfully so go ahead everybody else can just ignore him that's all you have to do but instead Craig is almost like talking about the benefits of being friends with JT at this point where it's like yeah no no we don't have to be friends of him come fishing with us I'm like don't do that right now he she's pissed that you had coffee with him no he's not going to get in a boat this guy talked shit

about your friend for an entire season yep which was bizarre it was such a strange thing and then he started off this season the same way. No, he don't want to go fishing with him. And no, he doesn't need to go fishing with him, by the way. And no, this is not defending Austin's behavior last year because he fucked Taylor over too. I forgot about that. Like, Taylor really got smoked.

Maybe that's why I feel bad for this season. But you don't need to, it. Craig is actively trying to make it worse, is what I'm seeing. He's actively saying Austin's overreacting. Austin needs to grow up. The JT thing's not. a big deal just come fishing with us on the boat shepp walks over he's like chef he's mad at me because we're going fishing with j t and shep's like oh it was craig's idea but anytime someone

offers fishing i'm going to go i'm not even upset with chef yeah uh shep's like fuck it fishing great gone and i don't think austin registers that he doesn't care that ship's going it's just about craig and the fact that craig brings it up in this moment is dumb and to further it later when he talks about the podcast and we'll wait to get there because we have to talk about Taylor and Rod getting there, but just everything to me looks like what we're seeing in Southern hospitality with Will and Emmy. Will's trying to make Emmy break up with him. And I think Craig's trying to make Austin push away from him.

Yeah. Comparison. Look at you. Boom. Charleston. Nice. Yeah, I mean, from Austin's perspective, it's as if he's choosing to build a friendship with JT who nobody likes and Madison is starting.

is staunchly against him but you're choosing to build a friendship with jt to make everything okay instead of focusing on protecting and you know saving our friendship so yeah it's hard for us and not to look at that and be bewildered and a little pissed off like i i get that i understand it like i get it is it an overreaction potentially but it's an overreaction that you can settle as a friend or even a former friend and be like dude it's not that deep don't stress about it It was, I wanted to find out his side of the bitch story because I heard it and he's still denying it and fuck that guy. Now everyone's happy, but no, you take a weird approach. It's like, I'm going on fishing with him and you just fucking throw your old friend under the bus.

I didn't care for it. I really, it's weird to watch, but Taylor gets there with Rod and that's where she lets us know a little bit more about Andrew and the fact that he wanted to be exclusive, but he was still hooking up with other girls, which again, 1,000% believe that's going on. Yeah. And again, I think that he probably set it up as like, this is just who I am. I'm fluid, man. Like, I'm one with Mother Nature, brother. Yeah. And, and it's beautiful creatures. Don't be weird. I'm going to bang this other chick. I'll be home later. It's not deep. It's just. You ever just appreciate the beauty of the world through another woman when you're with another woman exclusively? You wouldn't get it. You're not deep enough to understand. I meditate for six hours. a day because I'm unemployed. That's the vibe that he gives me.

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you're the host and i don't agree you're like i was gracious enough to invite her to my house it's like oh thank you so much for inviting the ex of your current boyfriend over to your house like you're so gracious and kind it's a weird situation i understand why taylor may have waited to say anything and then she does eventually go back over with rod and says thank you for inviting me do you have a minute i don't want to impose at your house but let's go have a little little quick chit chat because we got to sort some shit out and and they start to discuss what happened over at craig's party and taylor has an issue with sally introducing herself as gaston's ex there's something to be said there because yeah i think that's a fair one shit right i i especially

considering she's in a new relationship so why are you going into this group now talking about Taylor and her current relationship with the if your problems with Gastone okay fine maybe he did you dirty maybe you have a bone to pick with him it's not Taylor's fault unless unless there's some overlap which they're quite could possibly be as she alludes to so that yeah i i'm pretty sure there is overlap there and she's probably still but heard about it but i agree with you you're in a relationship and we just had to listen to you say how much you like this weird dude andrew yeah But you're salty about your ex-relationship because he's with another girl on the cast in Charleston. Oh, my God.

Wait, Andrew is homeless. That's why he walked into her house. And she's like, oh, just let yourself finish. Like, I got a key now. He probably had a key made. He just shows up there. And she's like, when are we going to go to? He doesn't wear shoes.

Or he wears flip-flops all year round. Burke and Stocks. Oh, definitely Burke. Definitely, Berks. Yeah, Jesus sandals. And, yeah, she's, I get, she's asking him frequently. When do we get to go to your apartment? He's like, I'm renovating.

My kitchen's getting redone. I'm in a lot of places right now. Yeah, I've couch surfing for research, for a book that are... Let me take you to this beautiful place I know. It's under a palm tree in the middle of the park. Don't worry about the cardboard everywhere. It's just nice to sit down on cardboard. This is my meditation, Matt.

What's that shopping cart full of cans? Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Those are my meditation cans. I do sound baths with cans. Checks out. But back to Sally and Taylor. it gets confusing when she brings up the phone call.

You said that he called you. You called him. Her response to that is we had a phone conversation. Correct. That is not denial that she called Gaston. That's confirmation that you called him. Correct. Correct.

Which is bizarre. That's shady. She's shady. I said that earlier. Like, why do you say that? She's doing weird shit. It would make sense if. you didn't just sit down and tell everybody like you've been talking shit on gasstone since day one so it would make sense if it got back to taylor and then gastone and then he reached out and called you i think that's why nobody really questioned it i don't know i mean they showed the clip from last week she kind of said the same thing but i don't know if she specifically said that he called her it's no no she did she did flat out said gaston yeah gaston called me and told me to keep my name or his name out of my fucking mouth yeah the old will smith um i i

Yeah, it is, it's definitely shady, but I don't think that anybody really even questioned it because they're like, oh, yeah, you've been talking shit on him. So it does make sense. It's a bad move by him, but it does make sense. If you called him and you're talking shit on him, what do you do it? Like, why? It's the whole thing is bizarre. It's like you're obsessed with this guy who's not your boyfriend anymore, who's dating somebody else. And we keep hearing that it was a very toxic relationship.

You guys were like crazy. So it makes sense, but, you know, unfortunately for Taylor, she's collateral. savage like i i don't know where you go from here unless you just move out of charleston all together southern hospitality dude send her down to the minors for a little while it's still vibe better with t j or yeah t jesus in that one scene then she has with anybody on this cast since the beginning of her tenure on southern charm so i well with rod and tyler too but ron tyler yeah now but that's it you know that's her only saving grace is those two and i don't see why she's still getting shunned.

Other people in this group have done worse things than she did. So I just don't understand it. But I think it's insane that a newcomer comes in and says to Taylor, it's like, well, a lot of people in this group told me not to trust you. Let's really break down how fucked up that is the year. Like, hey, the people that you hang out with regularly for this show, they've told me not to trust you. And you don't tell her specific name.

So now she's left to look around the party and be like, oh, God, like who's talking shit. Obviously, you can point to Shep because he's still hung up on her and every chance he gets to disparage her about her choices. He takes that opportunity, which is so hypocritical. You don't even get me started. You're going to comment on somebody else's choices.

He gets pissed off when he finds out that she hooked up with Andrew. Like, brother, are you fucking serious? Let all of it go. Especially considering let's go through your track record moron. Like, what are you talking about, Shepp? Yeah. And I get to Taylor alone. And Taylor has to do she has to go through all of this which sucks but again what is sally trying to do like you're

trying to hurt taylor who's in a vulnerable place who shows up at all these things without her boyfriend obviously her boyfriend's not going to be there because it's sally's house she has to fight on her own and she went through a lot of shit last season and the season before and shit fucked her up why is sally trying to hurt her like i just don't get it i don't understand the obsession like throwing it out there the overlap would be the only reason yeah that's all i can think of them if it overlapped and she was in love with gastone after three months and there was overlap and she feels slighted by taylor that's one thing and we get the the clip from next week at the end where it kind of points to that because uh who says it is it j t says to sally well yeah

and then he ended up choosing taylor yeah to sally so then maybe j t still ride or die for taylor yeah i know which you know what at this point at this point she needs a back up yeah that's fine especially if Sally's gunning for her and that by the way would explain everything where it's like okay you're pissed off because there was overlap and you're like it's two different stories if Taylor knew yeah you can be pissed off at her yeah but if it's just this scummy dude gastone that didn't tell her and cheated on you with her that's not her fault like yeah i don't think it's fair to hold a grudge against her obviously we'll will i will try Sally can't get to Gaston, so she's trying to hurt him in a different way?

I don't know. Now, yeah, that's good. I don't care to watch it. Thank you. Well, earlier, you're like, oh, you're on Taylor's team? Why do you think Sally Shady? This is why. I don't know what you're talking about.

I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, my God. I got short-term memory loss. I think I got hit by a snowball yesterday. I got a bad brain, coach. Got a bad brain. The snow froze the brain. Yeah, you got CTE from sitting in the stands and an Eagles game.

Honestly, honestly, if you're going to catch CT in the stands in some stadium, you probably couldn't. Did you see the guy that backed up his car in front of Xfinity straight into a cop car? They got pulled out and held at gunpoint last night. Holy shit. No. He's going, he's flying. Is that broad the one like X-Vosier and Citizens Bank is across? Patterson, probably.

That's Patterson, yeah. He's flying. He's reversing down Patterson, full speed, into a cop car, boom, four other cops. top cars surround him and pull him out and hold him at gunpoint jesus christ what did that happen after the game mm-hmm no i got i got out of there right afterwards i hit the subway immediately yeah smart move smart move but let's finish this episode up because vanita decides to jump in the pool yep needed can swim but i guess you jumped in got some water went down the wrong pipe she's gasping for air Craig jumps in saves her like a hero pulls her out of the water he did almost like a dirty

dancing he picked that was pretty impressive it was a drop out of the water saves her and i in my head dude i'm like wait a minute okay crags loosened up now he doesn't seem so uptight when he gets out of the pool and every scene that we've seen him this season he does seem so buttoned up maybe that's part of the weirdness that's going on so he seems a little looser it puts on one of Andrew's shirts puts on one of Andrews shirts which he thrifted probably it's got to be something like sifting into his body from Andrew, too, that's making him a little bit better. Like, ooh, a chuli oil or something. He's definitely got CBD oil everywhere.

Oh, my God. That shirt is coated in probably THC cream. Uh-huh. So Craig's probably stone now from putting on Andrew's shirt. But Austin, I think, sees it as an opportunity because he approaches him lighthearted. Like, look at the hero. I'm like, oh, yay. Okay.

Maybe Vanita almost drowning was the icebreaker. We needed to have a real conversation. I don't know if. I don't know if you've been there before, but you have a couple of drinks and you get into the pool. Sometimes, you know, you just kind of forget how to do stuff. You are an OG pool boy. You and have pool boys for life. Uh-huh.

Fucking cheers in your 40s for two hours. Especially in night, too, night swimming after a couple of drinks. That's, yeah, there's a lot that has to be done well there. Look, it happens, right? It happens. Thankfully, somebody was there to get her out. But I am cautiously optimistic as these two sit down together. I'm like, all right, cool.

Granted, in the back, my mom. mind. I know he's about to bring up the podcast thing, but for whatever reason, I'm like, maybe this is what they needed and they can just talk. No, it turns immediately into business again. He's like, well, you think I'm boring. It's like, let's run back what he said, Craig, because that is what you heard. I'm boring because I don't drink anymore. Let's go back to the actual conversation. He's trying to find ways to hang out. I invited you to golf. I don't want to golf. I want a garden. I don't want to golf for five hours. Okay. Well, he tried. He stopped calling you to go to lunch because you assumed that was a call to go get drinks, right? So I understand that

past experiences will train you a certain way to think, all right, I know what he wants. I'm not doing that. But at the same time, if you watch the conversation, it was fairly black and white, him saying, I want to hang out with you. I've tried to hang out with you. I've stopped trying because you don't have time for me. Craig hears that as I don't have time to drink. That's not what he said to you. So now you enter this conversation all buttoned up again and say you think I'm boring and you say I'm not making an effort and I think that you're too loose. So what do you think we would have to do? Because we have a best friend pod and when the chemistry is not there, there is no podcast. So for me to buy you out, if I was going to give you a number, what would that number be to buy you out of the podcast?

It's insane. It's crazy. Like it just shows you the lengths that Craig will go. to just have a clean split. Just, you know what? I'm done. I don't feel like battling anymore. I don't feel like dealing with it. I don't want to work on anything. It would be so much easier.

And this is what he gets into his head all about. And that's why he's so nervous and he's zoning out when he walks in. He wants to have this conversation. It would be easier to sit down and have a conversation about your friendship, fixing, repairing, and then fixing the podcast on top of it. But immediately, he just goes to business. And he's like, you know what? I don't want to deal with it anymore.

Let me buy you out. And it's a flex. too because he knows if he looks at Austin and says look it doesn't look like you even want to do this you're hung over half the time you always show up late you want to do it from your house you don't come over to my place anymore all these things he looks at it like this i can probably give you a number to buy you out and i will flex on you that i am doing successful or i'm very successful in business so it's it's just such a leap that i didn't expect but like we should have seen it coming because that's pretty much craig's mo for the last like two years he goes to this crazy conclusion

instead of just coming into the middle. Hey, let's sit down and talk about it. I don't want to go to get coffee with you and talk about this. I just want to buy you out and be done with it. It's like, all right. So easy to move on. Yeah, what if you sat down and said, all right, here's what I need from you. This is what I haven't been getting.

Can you do that? On the flip side, hear Austin out. Again, Austin came that first conversation and I thought that he voiced his side of things fairly well and he was completely disregarded. It's happening again. Austin stunned. He's like, wait, what? What are you talking about?

at no point did he see this coming and who would you went from having a weird relationship now trying to figure out if you're like close anymore to nah podcast is over to which i point back to the earlier scene when he's talking to page i'm not saying that she put this idea in his head i'm not saying that she's the driving force i'm not saying any of that Craig makes his own decisions for sure but is it being partially influenced by that because if you watch he never questions anything she says like oh you know like we've been pretty tight for a pretty long time because as she said, if Dev was telling me all this shit about you, I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I've known shooter for 20 fucking years.

Like, maybe him and I just need to talk it out and figure out what's going on. That'll never happen because we tend to be on the same page, which is why this works and we won't have a pillows and beer situation. But at the same time, for everybody who was wondering if we were going to have a pillows and beer situation. No, there, don't worry, guys. I can guarantee you we'll always be fine. It'll never be an issue. Don't worry, guys.

Yeah, between me and this idiot over here. We'll always love each other. Oh, yeah. I fucking hate him when he's hung over and cranky. But that's regardless. That's regardless. Did you say I'm not a good boy? You're a bad boy.

You have to say it. Oh, well, that makes you feel nice in the pan area. What the fuck? You know what? I retract my previous statement. We're done. We're done. I'm going back to brav bro.

See you later. Brov bro. The brav bro. It would be the saddest podcast at first. Me alone talking about Bravo. No offense to people who do that. No, there's a lot of people who do it very well. I just don't think.

If either one of us were the brav bro, it would be the saddest thing in the world. Yeah, that is not a reflection of other solo podcasts. That's simply you and I. The dynamic works. That's something we need to look inward about. But, I mean, that's pretty much the end of the episode. It's just, it's such a leap.

of a friendship again disregarding everything that you guys have been through together in one conversation when Austin's not even expecting it like let's go back over Craig's track record he's done a lot of fucked up stuff over the years and these guys stood by I'm like you just

they deserve the same that's all not that he hasn't stood by Austin through some dumb shit because he has but that's the dynamic they've been there for each other pillows and beer worked for a reason that's not sure done because you had a weird year like you guys need to just put your heads together have a conversation hear each other without getting mad at each other because you're misinterpreting things or you you have a preconceived notion of what the friendship looks like you guys are boys it's a brotherhood fucking figure it out

the show's better when you two are are clicking the show's not as good when austin and craig are at odds simply that's just because then you have chef fucking mediating that's a nightmare like And we just need the boys to put their heads together, have a beer, lay on a pillow, figure it out. At what point do we turn entirely into, yeah, it feels weird to this is just not a good season, because I'm worried about that. We're teetering. I don't think we are yet. I'm still in three. We're definitely not there yet, but I am nervous.

Two to three episodes away, probably, if we don't see a shift in some of the dynamics. And I think, you know, the root of that again, the Austin and Craig thing, because it throws wrenches into other things. I don't know. It's so disjointed because Taylor... I think the funny thing is they have another business together. So, like, they should be fine. They have multiple.

They're invested in other restaurants other than, by the way. And also, Pillows and Beer is still a thing. They're on tour. That's a good point, too. So they must have figured it out somewhere along the way. I just, we need to get to that point if it's coming up in season. Yeah, because we're teetering right now. And we're good.

We're okay. But you know what? You can see the squall coming in over the horizon into Charleston. it's getting a little dark on the horizon lots of clouds thing yesterday too out of nowhere it just snowed like crazy you didn't even see it coming oh you could tell here and like i looked at the radar and it was coming your way so every time you text like it's fucking sleeting i was like ah that happened 30 minutes ago you're about to get the snow yeah yeah oh boy yeah it's uh it's a weird year in charleston i will say this southern hospitality fucking it's fantastic show

what a show that is let's get to some questions uh from sergeant gino junior 80 why is austin why is austin pissed at craig about jt but not pissed at shep again shep's a throwaway that shep's gonna go fishing and do what shep's gonna do he's he's a non-factor and he doesn't care as much about chep and austin are not at odds right now if they were at odds then austin would probably be a little more but heard about it but i again it's shep yeah chef and austin's friendship was not the same as shep and craig's friendship yeah don't believe from britt mobly do you think producer change the edit of Craig and Page post-breakup, probably not.

Probably not. I was thinking that, too, when we got this, weirdly enough, in my brain, I was like, why don't they say Paige Craig's ex-girlfriend and put like a little asterisk? And I'm like, they wouldn't do that because they're dating at this point. From Sarah the Dorf, anyone else feel like Craig is only repeating everything Paige says. I don't buy this new Craig. We've alluded to it a little bit. Yeah, it's a possibility.

We're not ready to go full bore on that, but, you know, got to pay attention to it. Yeah, you got to pay attention from Rockstar 0521. It doesn't feel like a friend group anymore, just people who keep going to the same work events. That's a good way to put it. That's a really good way to put it. That's the rift. That's the weirdness. That's what we're talking about. Oh, this is a good idea. We'd have to get really organized from Alex Nicole 32. Please create some type of graphic that tells us what your weekly schedule looks like. That would be helpful to us as well. Yeah, it would be helpful to us. We are, we used to just wing it. We're getting more scheduled. We're getting way more scheduled

because there is a lot more shows to cover. But yeah, I mean, we've got, we've got hopes and dreams about what the schedule would look like. I don't know if we'd be able to hold to it, but we'll try. We'll do our best, Nicole. Yeah, I like that idea. I will do one more.

This would be fun to speculate on from CMRK-87. What degree do you think lets you operate a robot on surgery? Is there a bio-mechanic engineer? Oh, that sounds legit. I'll give you that. Yeah.

That would be my, I was going to say something way dumber. So, yeah, biomechanical engineering sounds legit. Let's stick with that rather than robot doctor. Is that where you were going to go? Yeah. We got to go to medical school first. And then you got to go to engineering school. It's about 15 years of schooling.

But Sally is only like 31 or 32. So I don't know how that works. Yeah. She's been going to school since she was 17. And then you go to robot doctor school. That's stuff. population two it's the teacher and sally yep that's it no that's not true there's other robot doctors well then you get into the whole case of like robot doctors you know with these crazy robots

coming out now uh huh dr robot dr robot dr robot oh shit see here we go and then next thing you know AI's running the world now it's terminator starring uh rami malick yep dr robot yeah doctor i know it's it's like he's the hacker right yeah yeah yeah i didn't i didn't watch that show i heard it's good but i did i heard it was good as well i didn't watch it i think i like i like him a lot so maybe i don't know i don't know i'm watching anymore but yeah that's uh that's southern charm for you we'll keep it uh we'll keep it close on the radar figure out what the fuck's going on i don't know i think that try that comment kind of put it perfectly it's like a bunch of people going to work events that aren't friends so yeah hopefully there's some big thing that happens

they need to go on a vacation together they need to be locked down They do at some point. I think they go back to Mexico or something. Well, they need it. They need to just sit down where they can't escape and just like fucking hash it out one way or another. Either go your separate ways or fucking figure it out because this thing, this ain't working. And it's close to not being entertaining. Not it, brother.

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