Bros & Shows - Be My Flower Boy (Summer House Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

Buongiornio Bro's! Coming to you from Rome it only seems fitting that this week in Summer House we had an Italian dinner featuring Andrea Denver Nuggets. In this episode, we see the end of the Race Car Party and the crew had a solid day overall. The girls have a discussion with Lindsay and it appears as though they have sympathy for Lindsay. On the other side, the guys are trying to talk to Carl about the relationship and are worried he may be making too many concessions. Things get weird when Carl asks Kyle to be his flower boy alongside Andrea and Luke... The rest of the group sees this as disrespectful as well and Carl informs us that this decision came from Lindsay. After hearing this, Paige seems to change her tune. Kyle shows Carl LoverBoy Non Alcoholic for the first time ever and invites him to rejoin the team in a part time capacity. Kyle and Amanda go house hunting but it appears that their communication problems still aren't solved... This season continues to deliver! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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up dude this is why we don't record on sundays usually um but here we are seal's got to go to italy so we got to figure our baby birds bro things happen i didn't even set you up for that one so that doesn't count you can't do that i can do that i have to set you up for it no i'm in a good mood you're dying i'm about to go to italy for 10 days so i'm elated i got everything ready to go we have time to kill like it's just a lovely day but yesterday was a disaster dude we lost partial power in my house how do you lose partial power i didn't know it was a thing either but we're getting ready to leave the country for 10 days and half of my house doesn't work called Pico. They're like, oh, we'll be out by the afternoon.

They showed up this morning. So, uh, that was my day. Not too, uh, mansplain here, but did you check the fuse box? Do you know how many people ask me that? Yes, I checked. That was the first. That was the first thing I did. All right. But it was bizarre. Did you turn it off and turned it back on? I did. I turned off my entire house. I'd turn off the main switchboard. You unplugged it back in good. There's two lines.

that run to your house and one operates like the heavy things the other one doesn't i didn't know that one the one of them went out so they came in this morning and fixed it so they're going to replace them while we're gone and cut down some of the trees back there so it's a win-win really but look we got things to do today you need to eat and go to sleep as you look great at least i will say that genuinely usually hungover shooter looks a lot worse than you do now i it's weird because it's one of those hangovers that I felt pretty good this morning went on a nice little walk got some gatorade got some breakfast and then over the last like two hours it's gotten so much worse I just need the sleep so that it just goes away and I wake up and I'm better the slow burn hangover

is the worst but let's let's jump right into this episode of summer house for suitors sake we start out we got Lindsay and page finishing up their conversation and talking about the red flags that they're going through right now and is it worth it to continue on this path that they're going on and lindsay chalks it up is just like a growing pains kind of deal like oh we're getting married like we'll get through this stuff because we communicate so well but page sees it i think like we all see it and it's like at some point you can just tap out of these things you don't have to grind it out no and i i mean i raised an eyebrow when lindsay said we communicate really well I'm like, don't.

No. You're relying on your couple's therapist to talk about things. Like, you don't communicate that well at all. And she was referring to them as miniature flags. You know, I don't want to call them big red flags, but they're miniature flags. It's like, okay, Lindsay, you're a walking big red flag. Actually, she's literally wearing a checkered flag. So that's got you got ironic.

I didn't even think about that. That's how that works. But yeah, it's weird when you see, and we saw Page last week in the beginning of conversation thinking like all right i'm on team lindsay you could see her change her opinion by the end of it like it was it was already done i don't know if this is the i think you see it to start to shift you definitely see her opinion change i think when they find out about the flower boys yeah to that later but she sums it up with look you don't like each other and we all see it they're trying to force this because they want this fairy tale wedding this fairy tale story of two friends

that came back together it is a beautiful lifetime movie as she points out but it's not plausible and everybody sees it but them, but we move on and we get the boys talking about everything as well. And this is a much more constructive conversation, I think, because it feels to me like Carl is doing his best to juggle, wanting to get married and just get this thing done. But also at the same time, he seems to see the writing on the wall. And that's why he hears these guys out. And everybody's trying to gently say, like, hey, man, you keep making concessions. giving up parts of you at some point it's going to lead to resentment and they're nice about it but he's very i don't know he's open to it which tells me like you're clearly thinking about it already

he was very agreeable and i i almost rather him just blindly stand up for lindsay and just be like no you know she's she's going through some stuff uh you know i got to be better as a husband as a future husband like i would almost rather him do that than what he was doing like he was smiling and like they were just trying to point out the concessions that he's making and like how unhappy he's going to be for the rest of his life and he's just sitting there like no yeah you guys you know i see where you guys are coming from it's like dude just fucking make a decision and i know he does eventually but like watching him do that and be in a good place talking about the potential future of his marriage and the rest of his life of being miserable and he was happy about it

the whole thing it just looked really weird and it makes me think to like Like, he's, he's kind of already made his decision, and he's kind of going through the motions at this point. But, like, ultimately, I think he knows more this wedding's probably not going to happen. Yeah, I agree with you. And I think that maybe part of his agreeableness, or willing to be agreeable was maybe this is like, like, thank you, agreeability. Maybe part of that is maybe he's feeling like, oh, I'm not crazy. These guys see it too.

Like, maybe it's kind of vindication a little bit. I see what you're saying. If you're still getting married, like you should probably be like, no, no, no, we're going to work through it more like Lindsay's doing. But I think that could be part of it where he's like, oh, you guys see it too. Great. I'm not out here on an island. So we know how it ends, obviously. But I love the next scene because it's just boys building the ramp.

And it brought me back to like the summer and Pocono. You just finally got a shitty piece of plywood with a log and launch a bike off a dock. So even in your 40s, boys can be boys. So that's encouraging for, you know, the next. 10 years of our lives. We're never too old to build ramps, dude. Do you want to build a ramp? We should build a ramp. We should definitely build a ramp and I will yeat myself off of that ramp as soon as possible. It is funny

because I'm just looking at our video right now and like, I just look so short. Well, because you got your slouched down at the bottom of your screen. You're like a floating head. I know. I have zero energy to sit up straight. So nobody yell about my posture. But what if I was really this short in life, you know? I would still be your friend would you all right that's i wasn't i wasn't going to ask you that but you know all right that's nice to know shooter and mini gooter would you would you pat me on my head when i walked by and stuff yeah probably put you in my pocket and carry around pal i got something in my pocket for you

um a little south park shout out there but we move on to page and craig doing a saran rat prank which i got to say that was the worst execution of the saran wrap prank i think i've ever seen And even when Kyle goes through it, like, Sierra pushed him through it. They had to force him through it. Yeah, they had to make sure that it at least happened. Somebody went into it. But Kyle would have seen it. And as drunk as Kyle was, he still would have seen it.

That means it's not that good of a prank. You can't do it like you're supposed to do it. I don't look, I don't know how to do it, but whatever they were doing was wrong. Well, first of all, it looked like they used cling wrap, which is not see-through. It's more translucent. You need something that's completely see-through. And it was not put up the right way. It was done willy-nilly.

You know, they should have stuck to one door and really committed. So a little bummed out there, not going to lie. But regardless, we get Amanda talking to West and they're talking about Sierra. And I appreciate that West is being honest with this whole thing. He's like, you know, yeah, we're moving super slow. It's a lot slower that I'm used to. But this is a unique experience because they're somewhat living together, even though they're not dating. and they are moving extra slow, and we know why.

It's because Sierra doesn't want to be made out to be a fool again. So I respect that. And I respect that he's okay with that. But I also respect that at least he's honest where he's like, you know, I didn't come here to be celibate the whole summer. But, but, but, but I'm cool with going through this. I just, it's more like the timeline's different than I'm used to. So at least he's not just like blatantly like, yeah, this is great.

I'm just going through this. Like he's being honest about his feelings, but also accepting Sierra's feelings. so once again west is just a solid dude just a solid dude and i have no doubt in my mind that they are they might have the best communication out of any couple in the house and they're not even dating and they're not even dating how about that how about that we get a quick little cut to amanda and she's like well don't listen to anything kyle says he's trash and it kind of sums up their whole summer and i think did you watch watch what happens live the other night with them on it no Amanda was on and Kyle was in the audience and she even says like I saw the clip yeah yeah he was just annoying her that summer and like I don't falter like I get it especially with him I'm sure you hit like the end of your rope so understandable there but this part this next scene was tough because we had Carl and Kyle and you know they're sitting in the pace car it's like this big moment they're revving the engine he's like look man wedding's coming up I got a serious conversation.

I got to have with you. You're important to me. I want you to be my flower boy. Yeah. It's one thing to demote him, and I know the producers immediately ask, like, this feels like a demotion, what's going on here? It's one thing to do that, but to lead him down the path of I'm about to ask you to be my best man, because that's how bad speech goes.

And it ends with Flower Boy, or like, at the very least, make him the officiant. You know, you don't want to put him in the groomsman. fine. I guess maybe Lindsay would probably be more pissed off if he was the efficient because she has to look at them. Whatever. Don't lead him down that path of I'm going to get a really serious question here. And then it's flower boy.

Like it's already a bad look and now you're making it even worse because it's almost like you're teasing him about the fact that he got to vote at the flower boy because Lindsay doesn't want him in the wedding. Yep. Exactly. And he tries to like soften the blow with like, yeah, but you Andrea and Luke, I'm like that's way worse. You've known

Andrea for like three years. Kyle has been your business partner, best friend, ups and downs. You officiated his wedding. Best man. Like, what are we doing here? And I think everybody watching assumed where this came from, but we very quickly get confirmation from Carl and the confessional. And he's like, you know, because of what happened last summer, Lindsay doesn't want him in the wedding. But that doesn't make sense to me a lot because if you watch Lindsay and Kyle throughout this summer, like, they're fine. Yeah, but that's Lindsay, though. Lindsay, can put on that face where as long as nothing is actually like palpable in that moment she's going to act like she's your friend she's she's she's fake i mean at the end of the day

that's what she is so she's doing that the whole time and i've no doubt my mind i know that like towards the end of the episode when it gets brought back up carl says you know she didn't say the words i don't want kyle in the wedding i think she probably did like let's be honest there's no way i know that like you know carl's known lindsay for so long so like he can kind of read what she's getting into and like she understands her emotions of what she wants and what she doesn't want to an extent when it comes to Kyle she a thousand percent said I don't want him in my wedding pick a different one yeah pick anybody else not him pick anybody else I don't care you know what we're going to make him the flower girl or flower boy sorry but to Kyle's credit

at the very least he's like you know what whatever I got to do to be there he doesn't make a big deal out of it he keeps Carl comfortable he's definitely hurt as hell but yeah it's true At least in Carl's face, he's not making a big deal about him. Yes, exactly. Like, he's able to compartmentalize for the time being. But, yeah, he's very visibly upset. And understandably so, I would be too. But that'd be like if you asked me to be your flower boy, I'd be like, fuck you.

I would do it. I might do that. I don't know why you would. Well, now it would be funny. Now I wouldn't be mad about it, given this, but only because of this. Yeah. Okay. All right, cool.

All right. So if that is nice. The flower boy, it is. Wait, no. Did you see that? wedding where the the best man chipped the ring to the groom no they had it set up on a tea and he did a like 20 yard chip and landed right in the groom's hand with the ring oh should we try that you know i'm going to slice it and hit somebody in the crowd but yeah probably probably that no

i don't know what i'm talking about this and you're getting married but i'm i'm just going to get married on your birthday oh yeah that would be cute full circle wow thanks man what a nice guy but and you're the flower boy all right fine but we get to the after party i guess like everyone's kind of winding down and you get a quick scene with jesse and look jesse's very open about his journey and where he's at in life right now he's trying to figure out the next steps he wants to be locked into one woman one relationship he's working on it he's not there yet and we get a quick cut to him on a face time drug he's like show me a nut it's just it's just funny it's just stupid but it's fun Just like, you know, drunk single, Jesse in bed, like drunk FaceTimbing.

And I would like to think is you get a quick cut to him, like passed out with his phone here, that he passed out in mid-faceTime. He's like, yeah, let me see the. A thousand percent. Yeah, that's exactly how that went. But I did also appreciate we got one of my favorite movie quotes that's not used enough is, I'm tired, grandpa from holes. Yeah. What do you mean? Wait, wait, what do you mean it's not used enough?

There's like... It needs to be used way more. There are thousands of TikToks that go with that. I know, but I feel like it's kind of simmered down. That's not enough? It's not enough. It's such a good one. Just that scene that plays in my brain every time.

Like, you can see the guy because the makeup on the old man is so bad. Well, that's too damn bad. I need more. Stanley Yelnats. Stanley Lnats.R-I-P. Who? I don't, I guess not. What happened to Stanley?

Still alive. I'm not shy up. I'm just talking about Stanley Yelmanat's the character. You think he's still kicking? I think he probably died. No, he probably died. You think he died on the mountain, and then the rest was like a Jacob's Ladder scenario where it's all a dream.

Yeah. Yeah. I think he died eating onions on the mountain. He definitely got stung by a spotted, or got bitten by a spotted lizard. Yellow spotted lizard? Yep. Man, I might have to revisit that. Digging up.

Oh, digging. Digging up. Welcome to Holes talk with the boys. Well, I don't like that, actually. No, no, no, that's a different podcast. Maybe down the road. But Amanda calls Kyle and she's like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm eating cherries and listening to Hans Zimmer.

I was like, that sounds like a vibe. That sounds awesome. That is, honestly, I would love to end most of my nights like that. That sounds absolutely perfect. Give me some cherries and the Dune soundtrack. I'm in. Yeah, Dune soundtrack, gladiator soundtrack, you know, whatever you got to do. Speaking of Gladiator.

don't worry i'll send you pictures inside the coliseum pal right we're all started right we're all i'll find the spot where uh maximus pretty much flipped off uh once is not max to miss maximus maximus yeah you said maximus i know it's not max to me i know it's maximus orilius no that's that's the that's the emperor yeah no maximus despus meridius meridius damn man i'm i need to rewatch maybe i'll watch it on the plane right over do my history because it's all a true story oh my god dude if you're going if you're taking a plane ride to italy and you're watching gladiator that might actually make a list of somebody else's being like look at this douchebag on my flight that you do where you're like shut your goddamn blinds

let me get back to gladiator so that i can go watch it before i get to italy was that worse than me potentially going it's a me a studio no please do that actually i need videos if you're doing that i think i'll get no some will probably punch me if i do that and i'd probably it's probably warranted I don't deserve that, yeah. Yeah, I would deserve that, but don't get arrested in Italy. I don't want to deal with that. No, I don't want to do that. I'll be, I'm going for R&R.

I'm going to come back refreshed, a new guy, relaxed, rested for the first time in five years. Like, it's all exciting. Very exciting stuff that's happening. But we get Craig and Page the next morning, and they're talking about, you know, this summer's been easier and Lindsay was great yesterday. And she did. She had a good day. Carl and her had a good day.

They even ended the night, smiling and laughing, which was nice to see a little change up. And this is kind of where you see, though, there seems to be a disconnect in what they're, how much info they're getting about what's going on, I guess, because obviously there's two sides to every story and the third side's the truth. So, yeah, they're going to get different things trying to figure out where they stand. But at the very least, it's interesting to me that of all summers to like make amends with Lindsay, this is what they make amends over. And lo and behold, I think in about two minutes after this. they're like, oh, wait, maybe it's not as good as we think it is because this is a huge fuck you to Kyle. But that's the next conversation. Kyle and Amanda are talking and about the flower boy. And Kyle's just like, you know, I'm just going to accept it for what it is and move forward.

But again, clearly upset about it. But regardless that actually we're waiting because that's not when they talk about it full blown. The next scene is the house hunting in the burbs. and they claim it was Jersey it was found out that it was like in North Hampton which it was so weird to me when I saw that post did you see that on Instagram

which one that somebody because they said you know Kyle's talking to the guy about the house he's like I never picture myself living in Jersey and they weren't in Jersey no somebody went online and found the house and it's in Hamptons but why the fuck would they do that that's so stupid

it's stupid but at the same time is that how New York work they're just like it's outside of the city so it's basically jersey that would make sense to me honestly yeah i don't know but i my whole point was like there's this whole threat about uh like oh they lied it's like is it that big of a deal like who cares what the house is like there the big thing for me was at least kyle was entertaining the idea somewhat like trying to find a compromise with amanda because look yes amanda has been very quick to get upset within the summer but I don't falter for that given how irritating Kyle can be.

And like we talked about, I think last week, it's like the compromise that needs to be made is pretty clear. And it's on Kyle's side. Like you know what she wants. You have to find a way to bridge this gap. And that's with you taking a step. Like she has made concessions, since we're talking about concessions today, like she has. And she's stuck in that apartment for five years. She's openly talking about hating the apartment.

This is on you now to make a decision and move this forward. So at least he's looking at houses. But do you think that that was a job? genuine house hunt or do you think that that was just like oh i'm going to just you know throw a bone here and go see a house in the hamptons yeah i think he was just appeasing amanda honestly because he did not it just didn't look like he wanted to be there and we've seen them have this conversation multiple times now he's never really open to the idea it's always well you know if amanda wants to do it i need to at least entertain it i need to at least appease her and say this but i

can see him dragging his feet and being like oh you know that house isn't that great the drive to New York isn't that great like whatever the hell excuse he's going to come up with because he just doesn't want to do it and you can tell it it's written all over his face as he's walking around but look the place was pretty cool I mean the house was fine I liked the land I liked the pool

outside that's fun but he just didn't seem like like if you or I were going and we were looking at a house somewhere and we saw that we'd be like oh this is really nice look at this kitchen this kitchen's great look at that pool the pools you and I are house hunting yeah yeah um yeah a little braprop repad um yeah so like if we were looking and even if we weren't like really into it we'd still

go into it like okay i'm going to try my best of this you didn't see any of that from kyle kyle's just not interested he's just there because amanda's going to do it and it was really hard to watch amanda being like excited about certain things and you can tell when the realtor's bringing them through the house and showing them the kitchen amanda's excited kyle doesn't really say anything he's got negative reviews immediately it's like okay i know what you're doing you're just going to try to put this on pause as long as possible and just see what happens. Yeah. And in that watch what happens live.

They still haven't settled on a house. So I also thought it was interesting. It's like you want a quote unquote investment property or something outside of the city that you can pop around to. This house was like a $1.3 million house in the Hamptons, which means all said and done when you go to war and the bidding war in the current market, they're probably looking closer to two. Yeah. So you're like extended property. outside of a probably $10,000 a month apartment in the city is a million-dollar Hampton house, $2 million-dollar Hampton house, like that's a little extravagant.

It's a possibility that it's just also for the show. Like, you know, maybe they are actually looking in Jersey, and this was just the quickest that they could get something to throw on the TV show and say, like, all right, you know, it's in the Hamptons. We've already got our crew out there because I assume some of the group comes into New York and they look at them there, whatever, but the majority of the crew probably stays out on the Hamptons and stays at that house. So, yeah, we'll take you to some spot.

We know the realtor because they probably book through that realtor to get the house in the Hamptons every year for Summer House. So they probably go through that guy. That guy's showing them a house that's probably 10 minutes away from their Hampton's house and Summerhouse. And they just wanted to put something on camera. The whole thing just seemed a little fake, yeah. It did seem a little fishy.

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Just a day-D-A-D-E, probably be. No, it's a date. No. Yeah, no, it's a thing now. And we get West and Sierra, what age do you think you started to groan when sitting down? I do it. I also grown on standing up. I know my time lines are all expedited because of baseball, but.

Yeah, but your grown is like, is legit. You're actually in pain most of the time. I'm not. And I do groan when I get up and when I sit down. So I'm going to say probably like 26 or 27. Like once you get over 25. Oh, 25. Yeah.

Well, again, I'm not in any sort of pain. I'm just groaning and I don't know why. Yeah, it hurts when I stand up and sit down. So, that's, uh, mine's genuine. And it started probably about 23. Yeah. Thanks to Advil and cortisone, I played for five more years. Good job.

Baseball. Baseball doctors. I honestly, I mean, today I'm groaning no matter what I'm doing. So it doesn't really. That's because your insides are dying. But we find out Sierra is signing with a modeling agency, which is awesome. And she's only had her portfolio put together for a few weeks. So she got picked up quick.

She's really excited about that. We get a check-in with Danielle. She's back. She was away for the week before, and turns out that she got banged out by a drummer. You got to do better than that. I thought you'd have something here. That's what they said. I know, but you got, what do you have?

You got to have a joke for this. She got Hawaii 5-0ed. That's like one of the most famous drum rolls ever. Is that better? That's way better, yeah. Thank you. Okay, I'll take that. I needed that, yeah.

Yeah, you're welcome. There you go. And I'm only saying that because they made the joke first, all right? I just made a better joke. All right. I see the occasion. That's what I do, maybe. But Jesse, and there is brocode.

West questions. Is brocote a thing? I don't know. There is brocode. I thought this was kind of fucked up. But at the same time, to West's point, like, it does push the narrative a little bit to force this conversation. And Jesse's like, well, they're not having sex.

So, and Sierra says what she's been saying the whole time. I'm just like, I will have sex when I'm ready to, which is totally respectful, totally understandable. West is still like, yeah, of course. And he's also like, but, you know, time's moving pretty slowly right now. Everybody laughs. It's all good. It's no big deal. I mean, as, as Wes said, no, as, as West said, you know, there is no broke out with Jesse.

Like, Jesse's just, and we saw that. I mean, it's, it's sort of the same thing as him going into their room and just laying in bed with them. Like, he sees himself as part of this relationship at this point where he's like, yeah, I'm here every step of the way and I know that you guys haven't had sex yet and I will be the first to know when you do have sex and you might not tell me but I'll know I'll feel it so I feel like he's he feels like he's part of it and he's just saying shit and he feels super comfortable with them but I think that's honestly that's a nod to Sierra West because they're both pretty open and they're both very go with the flow and they're both not really shy about what they're doing

and what's going on everybody in the house knows what's going on with them they're watching it and they're very happy about it because they are very cute and we like to watch that So we're rooting for them. I hope that it happens and I hope that Jesse is the first to find out. He probably will be. But it would be a funny, funny twist of fate if Sierra's the one that tells them. That's what I want to happen. If they do end up hooking up before the summer's over, I want Sierra to be the one to be like, hey, Jesse, guess what?

Figure going. I think he gives him a high five. Yeah. Then Jesse gives a high five. That would be great. But moving on from there, we get Carl at State and Liberty, which I don't know if you ever shopped the State and Liberty, but. new it is one of my favorite stores i was like weirdly excited what they got there they make athletic fitting nice clothes like button down the stuff that will actually fit the shape of your

body and they're fantastic so free plug for state and liberty shout out state and liberty you don't understand they make the best shirts they really make the best shirts but regardless we're not sponsored by them i hope hopefully this reaches somebody that works for them and we want a sponsorship because i'll wear that i'll wear anything you say at me. But regardless, we get Andrea back in the fold, which I love seeing Andrea. I'm still bummed that he's off the show. I think he adds such a fun dynamic to it, um, especially now that he's what's up. But we do not see Luke, which is funny. Yeah, I know. Why do you think, do you think that a show thing? I don't know. The funny thing was, uh, because Carl was kind of going through it. And he's

like, yeah, you know, this is Dan. Like he comes from Cincinnati. Like, he just kind of goes through the whole crew. And he says, and, you know, Luke's from Minneapolis. And I'm looking around and I'm like, did i miss luke like i feel like that would have been an announcement when he walked in or he would have gotten a name tag or something and i kept going back because i thought that i was missing something and i'm looking at all these guys and like luke's not there why are we talking about luke like he's going to be in the wedding but i don't know what what's his status on bravo right now is he not allowed on this show at all i remember last year he was at one of the parties and they just panned the camera and you saw him that was it they didn't acknowledge that he was there

his relationship with bravo is just dead do you think maybe that's it i don't know i don't i have no idea because i think he's living in new york now too so it's not like he couldn't make it because he was out in minneapolis like i i think he may have been there and they just didn't show oh yeah who's got more info on that anybody out there we'd love to know but we can just ask carl that's a good point actually yeah i'm curious about that but this is where they get into the flower boy conversation and Andrea and Kyle and this is a much more honest take as to how he's feeling about it. He's like, you know, yeah, I'm pretty upset and no offense to you, but like I've been with this guy through thick and thin over the past 10 years.

Like it's been a tough go, but we've made it through. We worked together, blah, blah, blah, blah, groomsman, best man, all that stuff. And Andrea understands and he doesn't take offense to it. Thank God, because that would be weird. But this line made me sad. And he's like, I'm just embracing the new normal because I'm just not an important piece of his life anymore and that like genuinely broke my heart for Kyle because they've been through so much and they have had these up and downs last year specifically was so tumultuous and like rough for them

but they got through it and that was all business related and especially knowing that later in this episode Kyle has figured out a way to potentially bring Carl back into the fold at lover boy in a much more comfortable way knowing that he still has Kyle's best interest at heart and knowing Carl wanted him to be a groomsman or his best man or whatever and that got negated because of Lindsay like this scene kind of sucked to watch I felt bad for Kyle can you hear the TV yes hey dev can you turn that down please that's it that is the first that I've heard that the whole time that's good all right good you're good um but this was a fun scene because we get page and jesse driving up and that was the funny thing

about when jesse was being flirty in the beginning is i figured that there would be no issues coming from this because craig is craig page is page and they're both they can handle their shit separately and at the same time like they don't let little shit rattle them so to see this full circle moment where now everybody's cool it's now page and jess you're going to get to know each other better and drive up together. And we hear more about Jesse's dating life. He hung out with a chick and she was on the cusp of the roster. She was about to get the boot. And he's like, you know, I wanted to give her one more chance. She's just so sweet. Oh, cool. Are we going to see her? Oh, for sure, no. Definitely not. Absolutely not. She got cut after that night. Yeah. She got cut after

that night. And I love, and like, that's what I want from Jesse because Jesse can add that little little bit of dynamic into the house because again he's the only single one there so if he's talking about his roster i mean how many times do we see actually on martha's vineyard we talked about rosters with the girls there so let's get jesse out there talking about some rosters and talking about what he's doing in his dating life i don't know how the hell he does it he goes on like four dates a week and four different girls two and a half well he did two and a half that week but he had said sometimes i'll go on like four dates in a week how the hell is he do that but we're getting the Italian dinner. How fitting, by the way. They're setting up a beautiful Italian dinner. And where

am I going today? That's not rhetorical. Where? Italy. To get your to get your iPad back? Hopefully. That's the goal. We're going early so I can see if I can get my iPad back before I get on the plane. I'm sure that won't be a problem. No, that'll that there will be no issues there. There'll be totally agreeable. They're not going to cause a commotion. It's going to be fine. because that's how everything's been going recently it's going to be fine we get a conversation with everybody and they're sitting down it's carl lindsay or sorry carl page jesse was lindsay was lindsay sitting there yeah she was there she was there okay and they're talking about the flower boy situation and they were all into the impression

obviously that carl is going to be a bigger part of this wedding or sorry that kyle was going to be a bigger part of this wedding and upon hearing the floor flower boy thing you can tell page just like literally biting her tongue she's like oh my god and this is the moment where i think you see the shift because now she's like wow that's insane like you want this man to walk in front of you and throw flower petals down so you can walk across them like when you paint that picture it sounds intentional like it would be better almost if he just wasn't in the wedding it was honestly before uh page even pointed that out my thought process was okay yeah carl's thinking he doesn't want Kyle in the wedding because he would piss Lindsay off fine whatever but

he still wants him to do something and he's like let me get him involved it could be funny if I just have a couple of guys walk down and do the flower pedal thing and I'm like okay weird obviously kind of a dick to your friend who's been with you the whole time and you officiate his wedding and then when page paints that I'm like oh fuck like Lindsay's actively involved in this this isn't just like a throwaway joke that Carl's making and he's like yeah it's kind of fun to get them involved that way whatever. This is Lindsay saying, okay, why don't we just have them be flower boys? And we'll do like Andrea and Luke can do it too. But Kyle's going to have to do that. And I'm going to walk down the aisle after him and step on the flower petals that he throws down. Like then you paint that

picture, all of a sudden Lindsay's fully involved in all of this and it gets really dirty. Yeah. And that's, you know, if Paige hadn't pointed it out, I don't think I would have picked up on it honestly. But it does paint a much different scenario. And Paige is like, I would have slapped him in the face. I mean, like, I'm not going. Have a great wedding. Like, it is pretty disrespectful given everything in their history and all that. But Danielle arrives to the house. Sierra and West arrived to that. Or sorry, Sierra arrives to the house. West is out this weekend. So we have a West free weekend because he's got a wedding. And we're just, again, finding out more and more. She's like, oh, I'm going to miss him and this and that. Like, they seem to be moving forward. I'm very

curious where they stand today. He was a little cryptic when we interviewed him. He said they're still working things out, but I don't know if that's like they don't want to spill the beans about what happens over the season or maybe there's a big reunion moment. So we didn't get a whole lot. I hope that they're still figuring things out because he proposes to her at the reunion. Oh my God, that would be. Wait, wait, whoa, whoa. He gives her a promise ring. What's a ring on a string? Yeah. Ring on a string. Ring on a string, baby. But that's a VPR throwback. Thanks, Schwartz. But Andrea will get back. to the house amanda and page are talking and amanda's again she's frustrated with kyle kyle came home

late last night like four in the morning was it after carl's thing that's the thing so i get it like she's frustrated because he came home late and this is definitely not i do believe he probably doesn't do it as much as he used to but he definitely still does it so i get the frustration this one time this one time it's like okay but he was with karl it was the suit fitting it was like a big night the boys were in town like this is the one time where it's like i don't know if he deserves to catch shit for this one unless he had gone out that week like one other time if like tuesday night he was out to four a m and then thursday night again he was out to four a m fine but if it was a one time this week i don't know like it's the boys yeah i'm also a little

frustrated that we didn't get uh footage of the boys night right yeah i always want to see a boys night especially because it sounded like a banger those are the best ones he's like you know it just kind of came out of nowhere, people started showing up. I'm like, man, those are the best parties. Yeah, we got to see that. But again, they start talking about the flower boy thing and point out that it's even more insulting that it's with Andre and Luke because that tells Kyle this is the value that you see in my friendship.

It's similar to that of these guys. You really don't have that much of a real relate. Like, you know, Luke obviously has known Carl for a longer time. Andrea and Carl are close, but it's not the same as Kyle. his relationship with them. So that really, it's as you start to put the pieces together throughout this episode and listen to everybody talk about it, you really understand just how insulting it is to ask him to be the flower boy.

But the only thing that can make it even worse is if there was a really touching scene in which Kyle had been trying to figure out a way to bring Carl back in and, you know, it was starting to do a non-alcoholic lover boy and finally got the can printed and wanted Carl to be the first one to see it and clearly still has Carl's, like, best intention at heart, that would make it a lot worse. And lo and behold, that's exactly what happens. Yeah, it is. And I have mixed feelings about this because obviously we went through that last year where Carl didn't feel like his role in lover boy made a lot of sense. And it was really hard for him to do that, given his sobriety. And obviously that makes a lot of sense. But I do think that there was a huge

component of Carl and Kyle's friendship was strained heavily, not just because Carl was out there peddling alcohol when he's sober but also because they were working together and it was a really weird dynamic and then you throw the lindsay of it all in there and you know lindsay's shit talking kyle the entire time behind closed doors lindsay should be excited that karl is potentially embarking on this because it gets him the fuck out of the house and it gets him a job but she won't be because she needs to pick and choose the little things that carl's going to do and she's going to shut down the dumb ideas that he has i think that this is Kyle missing the mark a little bit just being like Yeah, I know, you know, we talked about this.

I'd love to have you come back in and do this. It's like, I don't think you do that. It's less than a year removed from him leaving lover boy because it was straining your friendship so much. I think Kyle completely missed all of that and thought, well, now it's now non-alcoholic, so you can be the face of this and you can go out and pedal this. It's like, it's kind of the same job and you guys are going to be working together again. Do you really want to be put back in that position where you're friends, but he's your boss now?

Like, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I think Kyle completely missed all of that. So Kyle getting a little butt hurt that Carl's like, I'm going to take a little bit, think about it, I'll let you know, him being like, oh, he should say it right away that he wants to be involved. You've got to give him time to work through it. And maybe, look, I think Carl now is doing all of the lover boy stuff for non-alcoholic stuff. And obviously, Lindsay's gone, so that could be part of it. But you do have to give him some time to think about it. You don't want to just force it and then be like, oh, what's the problem?

It's not alcohol. Oh, interesting. It's an interesting take. I agree with you in some parts of that, like, where. you're right it wasn't just the alcohol component right there was a lot more to it than that in the friendship part so yeah that's a really good point to me the apprehension that carl had in jumping back in was more so how do i tell lindsay that's the vibe i got okay that could be true too yeah but i mean you make a good point and i think kyle did not think about that aspect of it but i did appreciate that

at least he's like you can come back in like a part-time capacity see how it feels however i think that that ask from Kyle comes with the implication of like, yeah, you know, part time, quote unquote, but that's going to lead to something bigger. So I do see what you're saying. I think that, you know, there could be multiple size of this thing. But regardless, we know where he's at now. Man, he's running the NA part of Loverboy or the face of it at least. So it all worked out.

But they get to dinner. And not a whole lot happens. They just are recapping the house hunt with Kyle and Amanda. and this just shows you where Amanda's at this summer. And again, you can't falter for it. But the dudes are at the end of the table talking, being annoying. And he just says, yo, idiots, which is something that you would say, it's something that I would say, it's something that all of us would say to our guy friends that are just not shutting the fuck up.

It's like, yo, dumb ass, like, shut up. And she's like, Kyle, she's like, don't have to be such an asshole. And I'm like, she just, she doesn't like him this summer. Like, she's fed up. And he can't blame her. Like, they're not, there's not a lot of wiggle room there, but at the same time, watching them on Watch What Happens Live made me feel a lot better about them because they did work through this summer, at least. They're still in the same spot as far as what's next. And, like, look, at some point, something's got to give.

We've been watching the same exact thing between the two of them for, what, three summers now where she's really been pushing the let's get out of the city thing. Yeah, pretty much since they got married, she's been doing that. And that's funny because, like, the way that this show works, there is so many of those, like, types of storylines where there's just no movement at all. I mean, we have it with Southern Charm, too, with Craig and Page, and we talk about them constantly. There's no movement. They're still doing what they're doing. And now we've got Kyle and Amanda. They've been trying to move out to the burbs.

They've been trying to go to Jersey, whatever. They're thinking about having kids. They've been doing this for three years now. So at some point, I'm going to just not care until there's more information. And I know, like, it doesn't seem like there's a lot else going on. Like, this episode was fine. Obviously, we have the work through of the Flower Boy and everything. But the rest of it with Kyle and Amanda, it's like, again, we're not getting any new information.

We're just watching them do the same thing and just stay stagnant. So, you know, give us a little bit of more information. And then maybe we'll be able to move forward with it. But until then, I don't need to see it every week when there's nothing else to talk about. No, I agree with you there. And I think the difference is, like, the other lack of movement relationships. if you want to call them that, are not married. So I think that that's the aspect of it where it's like we need to keep checking in with them

because it's not like they can just break up. There's a lot more that goes into it. So that's probably why we continue to check in. I just hope that we see at some point this summer, and I don't know if we are because we get, we see them at the beach and like the upcoming scenes from next week or whatever. And Kyle's like yelling at Amanda about something, like saying like he lives a very lonely life with her or something shitty.

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like that's what it comes down to like are you willing to compromise and make this move for your wife for your relationship for your future kids you can run a business outside of new york city that is possible that's very possible you don't have to be in the city to run lover boy you can have an office in the city you can go back and forth from jersey people do that every day so this is no there's no amanda problem for me and the fed upness i understand it like this is a kyle issue that he needs to shit or get off the pot like you can't keep dragging her along taking her to houses in the hampton like to quote unquote go house hunting to keep her at bay for a little bit longer like you got to make the move man you're you're pushing 45 like you got to fucking do something and i think everybody

watching is like dude you make the move now you got to make the move this is not an Amanda problem this is Kyle all's in your court and it's going to get to the point where Amanda's going to have honestly it's it's similar to the conversation that we had with Carl earlier in the episode at some point Amanda's going to be harboring if she's not already a lot of resentment towards Kyle because of him not willing to do anything balls in your court we've seen amanda talk about it a lot this is what she wants to do you guys have been married for a couple of years yeah you're on a bravo show that kind of focuses on you partying you can figure it out you figure everything else out it's not that big of the deal but now you have to make that decision or else Amanda's going to be like fuck

like what are we doing like I don't want to be like now you start playing the numbers game too like what you're not going to have kids till you're 45 then you're what 63 when your kid graduates high school like do you really want to do that no probably not so start figuring it out and again like until we get more information or until we see kyle start to budge nothing's really going to change except for amanda just getting more and more pissed off at them yeah and she might just get tired of it and she might bounce and i think everybody would understand it like it's not absolutely it's frustrating for me when you hear kyle talk about like the lack of communication and we're not a well-oiled machine she's made it pretty clear i think what she needs your your lack of ability

to meet her in the middle is where the problem lies. Like, it doesn't, there's no big question mark as to what needs to happen next. Yeah. It's, are you willing to do that? That's the question mark. Amanda knows damn well what needs to happen next. It's now Kyle needs to do it. Right.

Right. Will he be able to is the big question. We know he hasn't yet, because I watch what happens life. They hadn't yet. But I don't know. I think next summer is going to be very, very different, honestly. I know we've, like, had a repeat of what those two are doing the last couple of years. I think next year, if they're in the same boat,

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