Bros & Shows - Bermuda, Bahama, Angie's in the Mafia (RHOSLC Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 18, 2023

What's up Bro's? We are back in Bermuda with the RHOSLC crew. Monica is planning on taking the group to see her family in Bermuda. It's been 30 years since her last reunion. Monica let's Whitney and Lisa know about the rumors from her DM's claiming that Angie is in the Greek Mafia... Things escalate at the dinner table and we finally see the entire crew calling out Meredith for her same routine. Plant a rumor and walk away... Tempers flair at the dinner table when everyone starts in on Mer... Will we finally see her get checked? all that and more on todays episode! This episode is brought to you by Bubly Sparkling water. Go to bubly.com to purchase or to find a store near you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, man. So, yeah, new format. We're going to be breaking down these shows, and Steel's going to run out of names for me. No, I'm not. Way faster. No, I'm not. I'm back on the train. I missed a bunch of weeks.

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Well, we're going to be covering Salt Lake on this episode. episode. Yeah, baby. And we're really going to get into it because we've got a lot to talk about here. Before we get into it, because I feel like Salt Lake every time I watch, it gives me like Christmasy vibes. I don't know why it's the snow or just the theme. I know they're in Bermuda right now, but just the theme overall.

You know, it's like gospely. No. Oh. The snow and then like the cut scenes, the music's very churchy. It is, yeah. Oh, that was pretty good. It wasn't bad. Oh.

I wouldn't expect that. So back to what I was saying. Are you excited for Christmas? Where are we going for Christmas? You're taking a trip? We're staying home. Technically, so I'm going to the shore. You're going down to shore?

Parents live down the shore now, so got to go down there. But excited because a bunch of my cousins are going down there, so we'll be able to go out. I think Saturday night, maybe what's Sunday night's Christmas Eve? I always hate when Christmas is on Monday. Oh, yeah. It throws everything off. Then I have to go back to work on Tuesday. It just doesn't make any sense.

What's the vibe now? Do you have to go back on Monday? No. What? Well, if you, what do you mean? Christmas is Sunday, do you have to work the 26? No, if Christmas is Sunday, you're off on the 26. Oh, that's nice.

Christmas is Monday, so we're off Friday. It makes it. The whole thing is just a nightmare. That doesn't sound as cool. No, four-day weekend, so I'll get into it. But apparently all the Wildwood bars are all dressed up in their Christmas gear. You're going to get a tully nut? No, I don't know if that one's, that's probably open.

It's a dive bar. Maybe I could get a little tully nut. I'd never had one, obviously. It would be like a Christmas tully nut. Just add, like, some. fireball in there, probably. Yeah, or like a cinnamon stick and fireball. Yeah, my favorite Christmas, have you ever had, what is it, Coquito?

There's no way that's the correct. Maybe it is. I think I know what you're saying. Hey, Dev. Oh, yeah, Dev's close. Do you know what Coquito is? Or is it cone quito? That rum, like, Christmas drink?

Oh, I was just going to get into that. I hope this is all on here. This is all on here. Okay, anyway, well, the one that I was thinking of is like a rum-based drink. I'm probably wrong about that. Steels probably right. But, yeah, no, the next best one is San Diego. Is that about Shambord?

No. Okay. But, yeah, Santa's Come. Dev just reminded us about Santa's cum. Fireball and... Uh, Bailies? No. What was that white shit?

Rum Chata, Dev from the top rope. Thanks, dude. That's basically what the drink is that I'm thinking of anyway, but that's a really good one. Or you can call it a cinnamon toast crunch. That's no, it's nicer than Santa's come. Yeah, but like when you want to get festive, it's Santa's Come. Yeah. Sanchez.

Happy holidays. What are you getting out of Santa's sack this time? No. I just found out that my youngest sister listens to the podcast sometimes. Oh, no. He's like 16, so that, I know that now. So then when you say things like that, it makes me sad. We are rated.

We are. TVMA. Yeah. P.C.M.A. And if you're listening to. this you're you're not following the rules you're supposed to it says tv m a get out of here don't out you're good but uh anyway let's get back to what we were uh what we're supposed to talk about and that's a little uh ross slick ross lick ross lick in the islands i was trying

to think of something clever and i couldn't yeah nope i can't do it uh but we're in bermuda yay and i got to ask you a question because you strike me as somebody i think i know the answer to this because i think you are but enlighten me and i our audience. Are you a jammies guy? Yeah. Matching jammies. Yeah, you do. I fucking knew it.

Big time matching jammies guy. Huge, which is actually shout out to last year. Today, last year, was our Christmas show. Was it really? Yeah. Yeah, I just got the notification on my phone earlier. So that day, I wore matching jammies. I thought that was a bit for the...

Yeah, a bit. Spent $100 on matching jammies for a bit? I would. You spent $100 on matching jammies? Dude. Yeah. I've got fair. Do you have house slippers?

Yeah. Yeah, dude. Absolutely. None of this surprises. There is nothing better than do it, like take a late night shower, getting to some jammies. The thing is, I can't sleep in them, though, because they get too hot. Wait. So I wear them around the house.

That's weird. Fucking, you're weird. Where sweatpants? I wear sweatpants all the time. Joggers mostly. Yeah. That's the problem is I've got joggers all over and, like, joggers are comfortable. But if I'm lounging around, jammies, especially in the winter.

That doesn't, this is not surprising. Yeah, okay, whatever. I want to get like a little nightcap You would with a little Walk around with a little candle in my hand Like picturing Nobody sleeps better than that motherfucker That walks around with matching jammies

A little nightcap and that candle in his hand That just reminds me of what's the Night before Christmas No no Fuck what's the movie And the book Scrooge A Christmas tale Yeah

Yeah it's Christmas tale Is it Christmas tale? Yeah that reminds me like Ebony's or Scrooge Like before that goes to Christmas past It shows up. Yeah, like, nobody's sleep. And you know that. You already know the snore that they do.

Oh, yeah. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. You can't do that. I can't hit that octave. Me, me, me. I'm going to make you do that more often. Me. What are we talking about?

Roslick, Bermuda, let's go. Jammies. But they're setting up for the birthday, and it's Monica's B-Day bash. And everyone seems like they're on the same page to start the morning out. Like, tensions aren't very high, even though there was a little blow up the night before. They seem to all be focused on what the goal is. That's Monica. We even get Heather and Whitney, I guess, making up. I don't know if that's what that was. I think it was. It seemed like a sibling makeup. You know, that like bullshit, like older sister, giving a fake hug. Then you make

them give you a big hug. And yeah, it seemed like that. But I feel like we've seen that so many times with them before. And then we get married to saying, like, I don't think it's ever right to speak that way. You don't talk to anybody that way. Can we just get this on record? If somebody tells you to shut the fuck up, it's not that big of a deal. It's not. I tell you to shut the fuck up all the time. All the time. On this podcast. On, like, in public. Shooter and I tell each other to shut the fuck up frequently.

Yeah, usually during birds games. Yeah, that's true. Actually, no, we don't do it to each other. We do it to other people. No, we're good watchers. We watch the same way. We're silent. I'll stand up.

Just fucking quiet as hell. Yeah, I'll stand up and walk around and I'll say things to myself. I don't talk to people. I'll tell myself to shut the fuck up. Shooter will excuse himself for an extended period of time to avoid talking to people and something bad happens. Yeah. I'll pull it up on my phone and go watch it after.

It cracks me up because he'll disappear. People are like, where he is. He'll be back. He doesn't, he doesn't like you. He doesn't want to talk to any of you, so he's gone. But I thought it was funny when Lisa walks out just because I was like, oh, we wasted a good surprise on you. That is like, daytime, yeah. But I was optimistic about this group because of this joke where they're pumping up the balloons and it's a very suggestive.

It almost looks like a shake weight, which, you know, those commercials to this day are fucking insane. Like just people, if you're not on YouTube, you're missing. now I know but this is ridiculous that this was like for years remember this? You're your bracelet? I know that I'm actually trying to do that for the microphone that's the shake weight. I'm shakering from telling a story because now I know that Finley listens

to the show so I see what I mean it changes everything I know but uh I should tell that story anyway but uh regardless it was a great joke because she's doing that and Heather's like you should have no problem with it she's like yeah this how I get my jazz tickets I was like that's fucking funny great callback and everybody

laughs. Lisa finally understands humor. But that's what I think that moment for me unlocked this whole show, like the biggest issue is everyone takes everything so goddamn seriously.

It's not that deep. Shut the fuck up. It's not that deep. Jazz ticket joke. It's funny, man. Sometimes it can be funny and you can move on. You don't have to make everything

into like a knock-down, drag-out fight. So that was encouraging. But it doesn't stay that way. We'll get to that later. But Monica is elated. She claims to have never had a birthday like this. And I'm going to again approach this episode without outside noise coming in here because we're getting a lot of he said, she said currently where, you know, when we get to it, they're going to say that, you know, Monica's family said she couldn't, they couldn't come over and film.

And then a lot of people are saying like, oh, did the family ever even invite her? And now we got receipts from Monica, it's text messages with like production and all this other stuff. So it all seems to be real. And because there's like just, we don't know what the underlying issue is. They're saving that for the end of the season. It looks like, I can't speculate. any other way other than take it at face value. So that's what I'm going to do.

That's fine. You speculate. I'll face value. We'll meet in the middle. But she's recapping about L.D. and Linda didn't show up the couple's therapy after she was the one that suggested it to her. She wanted to go to Bermuda, but Monica didn't want her there. And because she didn't want her to come, I guess she sabotaged the trip, which again, we'll get to. But that was the whole issue in the beginning of the episode was, my mom wanted to come. I didn't want her down here. And now she's feeling some type of way about it.

She refused to go to couples therapy. She's not showing up on that end. Why would I invite her to this? Which makes total sense. Makes total sense. That resonates. I'm like, all, fine. I get that.

But we get Lisa and Monica. And this is when we finally get to start talking about my favorite rumor we've ever had. And that's Angie being part of the Greek mafia. We can really start diving into this because we've been teasing it and we haven't been able to bite off a piece yet. And this is exactly what I want to discuss because we get the rumors come out. And that Meredith sent the whole story now, this is definitely Meredith. Meredith called Monica and said, did you get a DM?

Check your DMs. She checks her DMs. And now, oh, there's a DM in there from somebody with 16 followers that has all these records, actual pictures of legal documents, all this other crazy shit. So now I do believe Meredith's behind it. Where do you stand? That's exactly where I stand. I said this last week, and Matt Rogers said that I was crazy for saying it.

Yeah, he did. And that's exactly what I thought. Everybody thinks, and this is Meredith's MO, that Meredith isn't tech savvy enough to be able to do something like this. You don't have to be text-avvy to set up a fake Instagram. People do it all the time. It's easy. You can do it as much as you want.

You can have 15 different accounts out there. I mean, that's how we started our Broad Bros account. We just threw one out there. Why not? But she absolutely did this. This is just the nail in the coffin. This is Monica recounting exactly how all of this went down. I like that she brought Lisa in to talk about it first.

She did this before, but this seemed different. When she was talking about the Angie and Sean rumors and she brought in Whitney first, it seemed like she was talking shit yeah she wanted to just like give a little rumor out there maybe make friends with whitney that way which is always kind of dirty and sleazy this seemed like i don't know how to approach us this is weird as hell and the way i think that what pushed this for because it seems like this happened weeks ago like this isn't a new news this is something that just popped off i think the way that meredith was acting the night before when it was just monica and meredith sitting in the kitchen at the end of the night where meredith's like i don't know i have to catch up on on my dms i don't know what's going on maybe that's true but i didn't read that one it's like now you're now you're being weird yeah something's really weird you called me and told me to go check my dms i found it and said what the fuck is this this is crazy you had a full discussion with me and now you're sitting back saying you don't know on camera weird yeah that's very weird behavior i like the monica i i'm assuming this is what she did realize that that's very weird behavior

brought lisa in because she doesn't know how to handle it i'm not going to go straight to Angie and just start a bunch of shit because Monica and Angie I guess they were friends through Jen Shaw but no they were friends then they had that weird falling out because of the party and now they're back to being friends it's like 50 50 where Monica doesn't know how to approach it and she's also in a good place with Lisa now and she wants to keep that going yeah I thought that part definitely where she's like this is an easy in with her where we can like bond over a third party and Lisa's is going to latch on to it because it's Meredith so I think it's both I want to get my myself ahead of this where I don't want to, like, get blindsided by someone.

So, well, Monica said. And also it puts her in good standing with Lisa, which I think is important for a lot of people in this group. But I love that Lisa clocks Meredith immediately and, like, calls out exactly what we say all the time, which is this is how she does things. And this is her using you to do her dirty work. And I love that this group is aware that Monica, sorry, that Meredith tries to put people into play. Not so much that this is Meredith behind the scenes, but yeah, Meredith's actively. using you to try to stir some shit up so they know what she does and later the whole table calls out like this is you Meredith we all know it finally yeah which is so nice to see but while they're in the uh the sprinter van headed to um jet ski angie says they should all rap and i know how much you like freestyle rapping and people doing it spontaneously so i didn't know if you wanted to take

this opportunity to do an angie k rap no no no like I met Angie the Don I got it going on I don't want to do that I can't see that's the thing I don't want business is plural I'm a Greek phenomenon and I hate when other people do it so I can't be hypocritical and be like yeah I'm going to sit here and do a rat only I can do it

they call me Angie I'm a hero but I spell a G Y R O that's pretty good it's not bad you know what you're doing yeah I can spit mad rhymes I can keep going don't don't don't don't just don't do this to me You just do an easy one My name is Angie and I'm here to say

No God, you're no fun at all I want to keep going I know you want to keep going. I'm not getting bogged down by some Angie K rap I wish we could have heard the rap She listens to the Humpty song on repeat So I can't imagine what her rap style is

Yo, my name's Angie A to the NG I'm Greek so you know me what you want for lunch span of Cobra to please All right I'm done I'm done I think it's something that rhymes with Sasaki but

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Okay, spare a band. I'm sweating over here. Ben and Monica brings up Heather's daughter's sex life and this is the caveat for what happens later and I see both sides here because the one side and it's I very much see Heather's side where it's like I don't want to talk about my daughter sex life yes totally fair I also because it comes out later that it's more than that it's not just about the daughter sex life Heather's just very uncomfortable talking about sex it seems like I would say that's very true however the daughter thing definitely The daughter thing doesn't Yeah just don't bring that No that's weird weird Yeah and that's you to react

The way that you did Where it's like And that's and that you can chalk it up Is like a difference in parenting Which is fine Don't want to raise people differently It seems like The way that Monica raises her daughters

She's a very close bond She looks at her oldest daughter Pretty much like a younger sister Yeah She asks for advice Which I don't actually agree with I don't like that at all really But again out of your mom's shit

Yeah Yeah yeah But you know what Maybe Monica doesn't really have anybody else to talk to about that. She doesn't, but that's still like, and I don't want to drag her parenting by any means. I'm just saying you're asking a lot of a 15-year-old or 16-year-old. Her 15-year-old daughter is more mature than Monica is. That's a problem. That is a big problem. That's what I'm saying. You're putting a lot on this child. Monica is

now pushing her values, her like, a parenthood on somebody else. You just don't do something like that. It's an uncomfortable topic. Nobody wants to talk about that. It's weird. You can't get mad about it that Heather doesn't want to talk about sex. And, and chalk it up as like a Mormon thing or is this there's just like a community thing with Utah. It doesn't really make any sense to me. It's like, well, you're actually the odd one out and a lot of people that are watching right now

are very uncomfortable right now. You can't then compare that to Heather not wanting to talk about sex later. I think it's two different things. I, no, I do in the fact that I agree her to get defensive about the sex thing, like yeah, that's weird. Don't talk about that. Yes. But she's clearly, I don't think she's

comfortable talking about sex in general. I think that's true too. That's my point. I guess both things can be true. But Linda strikes again, and I guess she took it upon herself to text or call the family in Bermuda and throw a wrench into their plans. So now they are no longer going over to her family's house. She's been talking about this nonstop. Like all she wants to do is reconnect with her long lost relatives in Bermuda, learn about her grandmother, X, Y, Z, all that stuff. Like I said, we have gotten texts and receipts out in public about her talking with production and saying that we can go to this person's house. Wait, now.

can't go to this person's house. I'm not saying that's damning evidence that could be fabricated. But given Linda's behavior that we've seen on TV, this is all very plausible. It is very plausible. And I know you said that you're not going to speculate. I'm going to speculate. Yeah, we need both. I don't think the family was ever on board.

You don't? I think maybe when Monica reached out to them, she said, hey, I'm coming to Bermuda. Would be really nice to stop in and chat and, you know, get to know you guys and maybe look through some old picture albums. that's something that she was really excited about. She probably neglected to mention that there were going to be cameras. They said something about they didn't want to be filmed. Yes, which is way more plausible. Look, Linda is a villain.

That is completely separate. We know that she is more than capable of doing something like this. However, Monica's no slouch herself. She could have already known that she wasn't going to be able to go to that house, painted her mom as an even bigger villain, and then acted like all of a sudden they just canceled it. potentially that is a possibility I look I don't know plausible I think

I'm like 80 20 right now that the family just didn't want to get filmed they don't want to be on TV they haven't seen monica in 30 years now you're going to come in there with a camera crew and do all this respect privacy yeah maybe go just do that on your own don't make your family a fucking plot point your first season

of your housewife career when you haven't seen them in 30 years that's super uncomfortable I just don't agree with any of that but look if they were on board from jump and they really wanted to do it then sure go for it but i don't think that they were ever that comfortable with it i can see that being a thing too i don't know i don't know if we'll even ever get the answer unless like her relatives speak out but no and linda'll say something on twitter and she should get her twitter blocked

yeah i agree but we get to the beach and uh we play a little beach game and it went surprisingly well very surprisingly well they play boink merry kill with uh just the husbands in the group and they even have an out with exes and they didn't use it which i thought was really funny except one person but the fact that Lisa who brought this game up can't say that she'd fuck somebody else is stupid the fact that Meredith's Elba that was funny that was a really funny bit who wouldn't fuck Ederselba let's be real here

I don't care where you stand you can't look at Yerselba and say or sit you can't look at that man and say I wouldn't fuck him what what no I stand by it who wouldn't fuck Yer Zelba I'll buy it too

Hey hey But anyway, it's funny that nobody, the best answer possible could have been Monica's ex's brother-in-law, or Monica's brother-in-law. Done. Would have been the best answer ever. So easy. But instead, nobody's funny. Only one person says that. Who was it?

Angie, I think, says that. But the rest of the group, I thought it was funny. I was waiting to see who took offense to them killing their husband. I was waiting for it. Nobody did. Thank God. Good job. Now you go.

for the husbands yeah all right uh boink merrick hill salt lake husbands uh let's go with i it's every everybody everybody's gonna say boink cess yeah i i don't really get it i'm gonna boink set because i know i got to know why i need to understand you're gonna boy come in the bathtub yeah just to stay you know consistent bang clue we're gonna play in the bathtub we're gonna play in the bathtub with a toe in my ass i'm gonna play to taint with seth No, yeah, I'm going to, it's kind of tough, honestly. Probably boink J.B. husband boss. Oh, interesting.

Okay. Mary Seth, at least seems kind of fun, maybe, ish, compared to the rest of them. Okay. Yeah, I know. It's not really that glamorous. It's not that clamorous. No, it's just not. And then kill Mary Cosby's grandfather.

Oh, okay. Wow, wild card. Didn't see that kind of. All right, I'm going to marry J.B. Husband, boss. He seems very supportive, even when he's not being talked to. I'm going to point, Seth, because I got to know what's going on. I've got to get to the bottom of that. And I'm going to kill Justin because I think he's sneaky, the worst husband out of all of them.

I think he gets away with it because he seems nice. But anyway, the game goes fine. Everyone gets through without fighting, which is really nice. But then Lisa and Angie take a little stroll down the beach. and Lisa informs Angie about the Greek mafia rumors. And Lisa is 100% anti-rumor. She doesn't think any of it's true. And she leans in on Meredith to Angie.

She's like, I know it's her. She's the same thing with me and those SEC filings last year. She does this shit all the time. She did to Jen Shaw. She had all this secret information. And it comes up out of nowhere. And this is what she does. She sends somebody off to do her dirty work while she stays on the side clean.

And I'm glad that Lisa is calling her out because I really truly believe that If Meredith is going to have any kind of reckoning or come to who's this moment, she needs Lisa at the forefront because she's the only one that can drive it far enough. I think that Meredith can deflect all the other women. I think she can put them to the side and like, yeah, whatever, I'm not listening. But I think Lisa is so relentless and loud that she's going to keep hammering it down until Meredith finally budges. Yeah, I think that's pretty true. Do you think that ultimately Meredith was a witness for Jen Chaw or against Jen Chaw? or against Shenchow rather

she dug up enough dirt and like that was the reason why she ended up going to jail I don't that'd be fun I think so only because I And Angie, what if Angie goes to you? What if Meredith's right? What if Meredith is correct

And Angie goes to jail too? Then Meredith's just like she better go high She better go high She takes down the Greek mafia Don Just keep on going Angie the Don Who's next?

Ang the Donge the Don We're gonna have to get a good nickname for Meredith If she ends up being right though She's a fucking assassin She's the silent assassin. Yep. Moving on from there, Monica at least goes up to Angie, and moving on from there, we get a

scene with Angie and Monica, and Angie lets Monica know, I know about everything. And Monica seems a little nervous because she's afraid that this is going to turn into a situation where she's talking shit again. Angie takes it the right way, and they have a discussion about it. Pretty much everything that we already know, but this at least shows you that they're in good standing together, which is good to see. It's good to see. Yeah, I was surprised that Angie had that stance, though, because we did see how she reacted after the Sean rumors came through.

She told Monica basically to not do that ever again. Don't go to somebody else before you come to me. If you have a rumor about me, come to me directly. Monica did not. She went to Lisa first. Now all of a sudden it's, oh, no, definitely not mad at you at all. Just tell me everything. I think it's the context of the rumor.

Yeah, I guess. That's what dictates whether or not it's cool. I don't know which one's better or worse. The mafia one's cool. Mafia one's sick. Yeah, that's like a cool rumor because now... I would lean into it. Well, even if you...

I would just be ambiguous about it. I would just be like... Yeah, don't give anybody answers. Exactly. So then people don't... Maybe start a fake Instagram and start setting Meredith stuff. Do that or just if you don't address it and then people think you might be, they're going to be scared to death of you.

No one's going to fuck with you then. I would start a fake Instagram and I would take, like, go back into old pictures of myself with like old relatives back in Greece and just both... And then circle somebody and then send it to Meredith and say, who's this guy. I think that this is one of the dons over back in Greece. And then Meredith would just like get going.

Back in Mekinos. When she eventually gets caught up on her DMs. That's so, I like that, actually. That's a better play. Then we get to the party and they're at the Grotto Bay Cave and everyone's dressed like a pirate

or they're supposed to be. I know, dude, I would eat there. But they are supposed to be dressed like pirates. They're not all dressed like pirates. Lease is definitely not a pirate. Everyone else close. Yeah, Lisa's a buzzkill. I know.

Just do the fucking do something. Do it. It's fun. Like a, it's okay. Wear a bandana on your head. It'd be funny. It's not the end of the world. No, not at all.

That's all you would have to do. You have the gold. You have big hoop earrings. You've got gold on your belt. Put on a bandana and you're good. That's it. That's all you have to do and you're going to be fine with me. You were so close and you missed.

But again, I say it all the time when we see these situations. Don't be the person at the Halloween party that's too cool to dress up. Yeah. Because then you stand out. You don't look cool. You look like a dork because you think you're cool. That drives me crazy. But while they're there, everything, this is where the,

the sex talk kind of explodes, no pun intended. Explodes? Yep. And the whole sex shamed thing and all that, like people take subtle digs, but then they decide to play a game. And I knew that the games could not continue to be good. They had to... You had one good game.

Don't push it. Yeah, exactly. But they start playing a game when the last time you had sex was. And that's not that damning. I didn't think this was going to be a crazy scene. But this does highlight the fact that this group does seem somewhat uncomfortable with the topic. They're a little sheltered about it. And I think that because we're so used to these groups of housewives being so open about it,

that this was more of a surprise to hear that everyone's like, ooh, like, I don't really, ooh, I don't know yesterday. Like this juxtaposed? Juxtaposed, if you will. To Miami where they find a dildo in Kiki's room and they start playing with it. A dildo, that's super funny. Like, this group will not talk about sex at all. The other group, hey, we found somebody's dildo.

Let's go play with it. Like, it's just complete polar opposites. It's super funny. Could you imagine if this group had a similar scene where, like, somebody gifts them all a vibrator or something like that? Oh, God. I don't think they'd be able to handle that. It would be a heart attack. We need to see one or two of these people go on a trip with, I guess, candy from Atlanta would be great.

That would be perfect. And then she gifts everybody a dildo from her store. The peach fuzz. What was that vibrator? Oh, yeah. That thing was crazy. You should give them all that. And then don't tell them what it is, though.

They don't figure out. Yeah. You got to figure out how to use this thing. You gave me a vibrating. I just want to see Meredith's face. when it like when she opens the box what's this what's in the box but heather goes off and she's furious because she's the only quote unquote single one in the group and why would you ask this question they're all married it's not the same thing to me that just makes it seem like

you haven't had sex in a long time which is fine and if you're not comfortable answering just think oh you know i'm not comfortable and like i guess it's a rock and a hard place because she doesn't want to be embarrassed but the way that she goes about it is then acting like she's insulted by even bringing it up and because she's the only single one there it's fucked up but meanwhile monica is definitely single just because she hasn't signed the papers yet like they're not still in a relationship yeah i that was just heather deflecting even more and it didn't make any sense to me like that's a very obvious thing yeah and then she don't don't say she's in i this is where i do agree with monica you can't call yourself a bad Mormon and now not talk

about sex that makes absolutely no sense you can't call yourself a bad Mormon and then question and whether or not, like, she's going through a divorce. She's single. Like, it's very easy. It's very plain. It's very black and white. And you're trying to make it completely murky just so you can get out of this conversation that you have such a hard time with.

Just make something up. That's all right. Yeah. Last week, done, period. You don't have to explain it. No one's going to ask you again. They might say, oh, who? And you'd be like, oh, I'll never tell.

Yeah, exactly. That's it. I don't know. I don't get it. But Whitney finally, finally somebody says it. We say it all the time. No one else says it on these fucking shows. Whitney, we should just.

not play games anymore. You shouldn't. It's a good point. Because it never works out. It never. You guys did it. You did what no other housewives franchise could do. You had a game that went well. Fuck Mary Kill the Husbands, which could have gone horribly. And it went okay. Honestly, that one should have gone horribly

and this one should have been fine. That's what I'm saying. It makes no sense. Maybe that's what happened. Maybe they thought that they could land another one. Like, ooh, that one was pretty dicey, but two for two. We got through it pretty good. Two for two. You want to try it again. This one's a little easier. But Angie ends the awkwardness by stepping in saying, I'm going to take the heat off of you guys.

Let me just do this for you real quick. Let me do you a favor. Hey, Meredith, what the fuck? And calls her out for all of the rumors and everything. And this is where you, when Meredith gets caught in a lie, it's so blaringly obvious because this whole group starts going in on her. And it's led by Lisa and Angie. If you pay attention to how she's responding,

I never said that. I never made those claims. I never said that she made those claims. we know what you're doing. You're implying that somebody else made those claims because this is what you do. You set it up and you walk away. And Lisa finally calls it out at the table

in front of everybody. Whitney calls it out at the table. Everybody at the table who has had the same experience with Meredith. It's the same M.O. Yep. You're like, dare I say it, Ted Bundy, you got an M.O.

You got a rap. We know how you do things. We'll do that. Nope, God forbid, you can't do a metaphor. But this is you. It's got you written all over it. And she just keeps trying to deflect with the semantics game. And any time that Meredith is playing semantics, you know that Meredith is lying.

And I think that she is 100% behind the DMs. I think she's 100% behind the legal documents. And I think that she, for whatever reason, has taken it upon herself to try to oust Angie. And I don't know why. I have no idea why. Like, there's got to be some sort of underlying factor that we're not privy to as to why Meredith has such a deep-seated hatred for Angie. Or maybe she doesn't. Maybe she just likes to play in people's lives like this.

Maybe that's what she likes to do on this show specifically. I can't figure it out. There's no motive here for me. It seems exhausting. It's got to be exhausting. But you know what? She's probably bored. Sitting at home doing that podcast with Seth.

And then what else am I going to do? All right, well, you know. The Meredith Marks. We've got some time off until we have to start filming again. So let's just. Oh, I mean, she does run like the Meredith Mark's business. Like she has a lot of stuff that she does. Like she's a business woman.

I'm not going to take that away. So she sits at home and she's bored as hell because she's got other people that are doing her businesses for her. Perhaps. Probably. And this is what she decides to do with her time. I don't get it. It doesn't make any sense.

Nope. Nobody's making any sense of it either. Everybody's at least pointing it out and that's great. But Meredith is just sitting there still calm. She's not losing her shit. She never does. She's not freaking out. Like even when she's being accused of something really bad, she never quite blows her top off.

No, but it's weird. You would think that it would be like not proving her guilt, but instead I think the opposite. Yeah. That's the weird part. guilty as shit right now she's smiling too smirking she's like i never said that yeah i never made those claims it just i don't know but what it does give us is the first authentic moment with angie as far as her going off on somebody this wasn't scripted this was off book and because of like the 170 thousand dollars in taxes that are owed and like bankruptcy and all these other weird

claims that meredis files seem to say and she drops i fucking love this line when it hits and it landed She goes, Google me. Google me. I'm worth millions of dollars. I do millions of dollars of business every year. Angie Kay, Mama Kay built this empire. I was like, fuck yeah. That's a good.

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She's going to do it. I can't push the Don too far. I know that she's Greek mafia, but if I do a Greek accent, I might insult somebody. I am a stick with Italian. Because first off, she started the whole thing off by saying, let me let me wet my whistle real quick. Before I get into this, like, what the fuck you're doing? Before I... She didn't get emotional about it, which is nice. I mean, like, yeah, you could say that towards the end it was emotion, but she didn't get sad about it.

She wasn't hurt, quote, unquote. It wasn't any of that bullshit. She stood firm. She's like, what the fuck are you doing? This is nuts and came after her. So I hope that more people do, but we've seen this before. When Meredith gets, when people go after Meredith, she gets in some sort of shelter. She doesn't talk to anybody, but people that are close to her.

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That's the ironic part is she's throwing all this shit out there that she started. And now she's going to turn it on somebody else and act like you're the bad friend. Like, you're a terrible person. Well said. But Lisa is determined to get to the bottom of it. She says she's going to set her. security team on it, her cyber security team, and look, make all the jokes you want. If she runs Vita Tequila and it is as successful as it does seem to be, I guarantee you

that they have a cybersecurity team. Yeah, that was one of the dumbest things that I've ever seen. People questioning if she had a cybersecurity person makes me wonder if they even know what a cybersecurity person is. I don't know if they do because like to protect their business and all of their, everything they do is online, your website, all of your orders. Like, there's a ton of shift on line. Your cybersecurity protects probably their entire company.

They're probably very good at their jobs. And if they wanted to figure out where an Instagram DM came from, they could figure it out. And also Heather saying that she has seven attorneys, like, yeah, she's got a big company. That's not that many attorneys. This all makes sense. This is how business works, idiots. You're going to fuck around and find out, Meredith. But that's all I got.

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