Bros & Shows - Birthday Week Isn't a Phase - It's a Lifestyle (Southern Hospitality Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 27, 2026

What's up bros? It's Emo Nite time in Charleston for a certain Joey Bottles' birthday and we're asking all of the important questions such as, can a 30 year old man claim an entire week for his birthday? The apparent answer is a big emo yes from Joey. While the weird behavior from Lake intensifies, we FINALLY got an absolute read of Emmy and her terrible behavior from Julia and we cannot thank her enough. Seriously, we were going crazy waiting for someone to finally say what we're all thinking at home and we finally got it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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But we do have a new star in the making, because holy shit, where did that come from, Julia? She's my new favorite. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine.

Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brab Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros. For Everybody for Whoever Wants to Listen. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as

As always, by the one and only scoots McGillicuddy. What's up, dude? I would like to be able to get through this entire episode without saying the same phrase that half of the cast said about 50 times in this episode. And I think you know the phrase that I'm talking about. Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. Yep. In regards to emo night, right?

Yep. We're celebrating emo night, which is, you know, it's one of my favorite causes. The moon has phases. the moon. I was trying to hint that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think everybody knows. I mean, again, they said it like 50 times.

Did you catch TJ's shirt? Yeah, Joan. Uh-huh. So good. Absolutely perfect. I think my biggest thing about this episode, which is so funny because emo music is probably my favorite genre, they're not allowed to play any of that music.

So when they start playing music in emo night, it's just like the generic, upbeat metal music or rock music. that they can get their hands on that's like, I guess like, uh, imminent domain or whatever it might be. It's so funny to me because it's like,

oh yeah, we're having a great time. I'm like, what the fuck is? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Public domain.

Public. Yeah. Yeah. Not imminent domain. Um, but the other part of this is we didn't get one Sheena Shay mention. I thought we were going to get a sheena mention with these guys with

the emo night people. Yeah, we didn't, which is great. Uh, and shows you what they think of her probably. Uh, but yeah,

emo holds a very special. in my heart as well. So this was a very exciting episode to dive into the funniest part that I don't know if you caught. I don't know if she texted you or not. Did you catch Katie in the background at Emo Night? No, I didn't. She was there.

In the episode? During the Mosh Pit, she's standing behind it with a very dissatisfied look on her face. She did not want to join the Mosh Pit. To bring the audience into this, they don't know who Katie is. Katie is our friend from high school. Yeah. So in case anybody at home is very, very, very confused. Like what?

Katie Maloney? Yeah, not Katie Maloney. She's not there. No, no, it's a friend of ours from high school. But now that you're saying that I do remember, again, I mean, this was what, August? So I don't remember that far back. Yeah. But before we jump in, like, it's gotten to a point with Emmy that borderline they need to get her off the camera.

because yeah, it's wacky, yeah, it's reality TV, all of that stuff. The stuff that she's doing and perpetuating is borderline dangerous at this point. Like the way she's going about town talking about Brad, the way that she's trying to paint this narrative of him as being this aggressor, this big scary guy, like all of that other shit. She's being so overtly racist right now. I cannot begin to imagine the thoughts and feelings that Brad is currently going through in this moment. it is no longer reality TV. It is now like, okay, this bitch is problematic. Like, get her off the fucking screen.

Yeah, I thought about that. And unfortunately, there's no way for them to like phase her out. There's no way for them to edit her out. She's, what she's doing is so crucial to everybody else's lives right now and on the show that it would be impossible to take her out. Now, obviously you can do a couple of things. Like they sort of did this episode where they can show a little bit of like some shady editing.

Like, oh yeah, by the way, you did talk to a bunch of different people. You did do this. You did talk to your sister. You did call just in the day after you apologized everybody and say that you didn't actually apologize. But I do think that like she's, she's on her way out.

Like this is, this is the signara. This is her sign off. And I think that what I needed personally is finally for somebody to fucking clock her that isn't Brad. Like Brad's not in a good position. Brad can't do that because she's going to continue to perpetuate it. So he can't say what he actually wants to say because he knows what Emmie's

going to do on the on the flip side everybody else just standing idly by i'm like someone please fucking do something like i know i i don't i still don't understand jo and mattie sticking up for any and being friends with emmy they say nothing uh tj he's sort of in the mix but like step up say something like at justin you have a lot to say when she calls you and facetimes you the next day lake will get to you in a lot uh we'll get a lot to say about her um but like no one's doing anything until julia did it i'm like thank you finally for the love of God, somebody fucking finally actually said exactly what she's doing and called her out on her bullshit.

We need more of that. I need that times 10. And then the end of the season, she just never comes back. I need the cast to step up. Not for a show. I need you to step up for your friend. Why are you, like you said, you're sitting idly by while he's going through these attacks. Like, for what reason?

I was so confused at the lack of response from everybody. like it's like they don't want to get involved is it because you think it's like an an icky topic you don't want to like ooh you know i don't want to get involved at that whole what the fuck is going on that you guys can't stand up and say hey fuck you emmy leave him alone this is atrocious i'm i'm you know what i'm disappointed in in downbride disappointed yeah i'm dad disappointed i think a few of the people on the cast probably have their reservations about brad like brad's involvement in the whole mattie with trevor cheating scandal all that shit.

So like I get that. Like you might feel some type of way about Brad. You don't want to get involved. You kind of want to like see what happens with him. But this kind of true. This situation transcends all of that. It's just it's morals at this point. It has nothing to do with you might feel some type of way about him getting involved

or perpetuating a rumor or trying to get you in trouble or whatever it was. He's not doing that anymore. And he really hasn't done that. I mean, that was a group effort last year. Again, we already talked about the Maddie and Trevor stuff, but Joe was involved in that. too. Like you're able to just forgive him and move on and continue to date. This is something that everybody should be standing up for and they're not. And I just don't understand why they're

allowing Emmy to just run around Charleston being a crazy bitch. I have no idea. I truly do not know. But yeah, Julia Clockinger was therapeutic, honestly. Yeah. Finally watch somebody take it to said everything perfectly. She did. And, you know, I'm sure that she probably had even more to say. That's obviously much closer to home for her. But yeah, that was like, I needed that moment. I think we all needed that moment.

And I'm sure Brad felt much better after Julia did that. So Julia hats off. Also, I would love to see him watching that scene. Yeah. Like, what a proud boyfriend he probably was. Like, oh. I messaged him afterwards and just said, like, your girlfriend's awesome. Like, what a ride or die.

I like love that. Yeah. And he said the same thing back pretty much. But, um, yeah, I also texted Joe after this episode because of, uh, what we're talking about later. No, not an uh-oh text. It was a nice. Oh, okay.

But let's jump into this episode. And, uh, did you tell him that he's too old to celebrate a birthday week? No, but I wrote that in my notes. Yeah. You and I think too much alike. Yeah, I talked out really quick. But anyway, let's start out.

Uh, And TJ and Michaels, they're headed to New York City because Michael's is going to meet with his talent manager. And he asked TJ to tag along, which is fun. We want to see these two. I want to see their dynamic. You know, is this a blossoming romance or is this simply friends with benefits? Yeah, this was interesting because it was such a good episode. It was action-packed, full 42 minutes like we love to see.

And they do that time and time again. But I wanted to see more from New York. I wanted to see. I know we get snippets of it a little bit later. I wanted to see the two of them going out because I love the two of them. together. And again, they're going from Charleston up to New York. And I know it's just the two of them and they're there for a night. Clearly you had camera people there. It's New York. So you did film a good bit. Just give us like four minutes of a scene. Just let us see them hanging out and

talking about whatever. Yeah. And I imagine there's gay bars in New York that will allow you to film. Like I want to see them going out. I want to see them doing their thing. I want to watch them compete to see who can make out with more dudes. TJ lost. But yeah, like let us let us join the fun. Guys, damn it? Did TJ lose or was he just hung up on Michael's? That's the question, isn't it? That's what, but we need to watch. I don't know because we don't get to see the dynamic.

Yeah, based off the information I'm getting, I think he was just holding out for Michael's whole night. He was waiting in line. Yep, which is a very weird way to put that. But yes, it was practically waiting. Well, anyway, Michael sits down with his talent manager, Corey, and he's got a lot of good news coming in. The pictures went great for the photo shoot.

The cover looks incredible. And he's got other things in the works. He's like, hey, I got you men's warehouse, like national campaign. That sounds like an awesome one. Had another one for you. You got banned from this dating app. God, I wish they said which dating app it was. But he got banned from a dating app.

All we can surmise is that it was for nudies. No, for sure. probably pushing the boundaries on the guidelines is what I would say I doubt they were full-blown nudes maybe some butt but I mean we can have that debate like is is an ass a bare ass is that really nudity probably not I don't think so yeah I I don't know I'm like less concerned about which which dating site it is because it's just a very funny situation it's just a completely banned from a dating site and then have all these opportunities it's like we're going to have to figure this one out because you got banned.

I need to know going into this. What did you do? Because if it was some weird shit, I can't defend you and we should just move on so that this doesn't open up a whole other box. If it was just something stupid, let me know so we can get you reinstated. And then you can go be the spokesperson.

And then that's also like really good marketing too because he could even use that in his story about marketing that dating app. Like, hey, you know, I pushed it a little too far, but you know me. I'm right back on this app. Like there's so many things you can do with it.

Yeah, I agree. And I think that I just really like Michaels. I've loved watching his, his trajectory over the past couple of seasons. And I want the best for him. Like I, we both have like a weird, I don't know if relationship is the right word,

but feeling like we started with this show when they started out. No. I'm talking about in regards to this past. Yeah. In regards to this cast, because like we invested heavy in this show out of the, gate because we thought this was going to be something. So like, I really care about this cast.

So when I see Michael's doing so well, I'm like, fuck yeah, dude, like, you deserve this shit. Stop getting banned from dating apps so you can get some brands. But nice job. So I don't know. It's just cool to watch like we've really seen them blossom. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I mean, it's sort of a love, hate relationship because we do love our favorites on this cast.

And there's a couple of people on the cast that I'm like, okay, I'm tired of you. and there's some, the cast members that come back randomly, I don't care for them. And one of them comes back in this episode. I don't want to fucking deal with this. Please keep them away. Yeah, the milkman does not need to come back. We didn't like him when he was on the show.

I don't want to see him return. Well, the only time that we need an O'Sheen is if we need some shit to pop off, and we don't. We have enough going on. He's good for a drop in to fuck stuff up, but we've got enough shit happening that we don't need him. More than enough. Yeah, we might not even get to everything.

I'm actually getting really nervous because it's only episode eight. And we know because we were talking to Joe, Joe's like, yeah, we're almost done filming. We're just doing my birthday party now. So I'm getting really nervous that this is only like a 10 episode season. I'm going to freak out if it is. No way. They got a full reunion. I'm so upset.

Full blown reunion finally. They stopped disrespecting them and sticking them in the clubhouse. Yeah. Yeah, but they already recorded the reunion. Like they just did Summerhouse's reunion. They only have two weeks left too. Why would they do that? I don't know.

What is the hold up with this fucking show if that's the thing? Why do we keep putting it into this little box? I'm going to assume and just ignore what I said before this and just assume we have 12 episodes. That's what I'm going to assume. If we have 12, it's not, honestly. Like going back, obviously, you know, you want to compare it to the other shows. But like going back to VPR, yes, VPR, the first four seasons were unbelievable and unmatched. But they got to a point where they have like 20 episode seasons by season four.

And yeah, there's a lot of shit popping off, but there's a lot of shit popping off here. Give the Soho cast some goddamn respect. What is going on here? Well, I mean, time will tell. We'll see how many episodes there are. But anyway, let's keep moving. Then we get to Joe. And he is on the phone about the concert.

And he's like, I'm going to bust my ass. I saw all these tickets. It looked like it was a decent turnout. So nice job, Joe. But Maddie's coming over to talk. They have not spoken in a week. They haven't slept in the same bed. They've never had a blow up like this before.

So Joe is panicking. He's spiraling. He just wants things to go back to normal. He's stressed about this event. He doesn't have support from Maddie. He's in a really, really bad place right now. So Maddie comes over to talk.

He was, I'm sorry. I'm not laughing at his misfortune, but he is very funny when he's stressed out. Like somehow, and like, if you write, write down all of the things he's stressed out about.

You're like, all right, yeah, that kind of makes sense. But when he talks about being stressed out about it, I'm like, somehow you're minimizing your own issues. Yeah, he does. And then being really stressed out about it in a very funny, cartoonish way. And then you'll like crack of joke. Like as soon as she walks in, Maddie's just like trying to bury the hatchet right away. Like, I don't really like your outfit.

What are you doing? Cream in a white shirt. Even white. I'm not worried about my outfit. I'm worried about a lot of things, but not my outfit. All right. All right. We're off to a good start here, Joe. Yeah, he was, that was the funniest part because I think Maddie was trying to lighten the mood a little bit with just like a little dig.

And he's like, I can't handle that. I can't handle that right now. Uncomfortable situation. You got to crack a joke. Something completely off topic. Yep. And Joe wasn't having it. No, but I don't care.

I don't even know what I'm wearing. Can we just talk, please? I'm going to throw out. I'm wearing clothes. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. That's the funny thing, too, it's like this whole week that they haven't been talking.

every time we go over to Joe, he's just doing the same thing. He's like, oh, God, oh God, answer the call. Come on, please, come on. Oh, God, damn it. So stressed out. What am I going to do? What am I going to do? So I'm happy that we're at least done with that, but it was still, again, not laughing

at his misfortune. He's just kind of a funny guy. He's a funny guy. It's a funny thing. But Maddie arrives. And her whole thing, as we know, is she just wants Joe to have a purpose. She wants Joe to wake up in the morning, get moving and go chase his dreams. He has all these big dreams.

dreams. He just gets sidetracked a lot. And her big concern is that the drinking and the going out are stifling his ability to move forward in his life. These are all very positive things that she's trying to reinforce. She's just trying to give him some support. She's not being an asshole about the whole thing. And Joe just says, look, I'm in like a really bad place. I need my best friend and I need my girlfriend. What's so good about Maddie? And she's so introspective and self. aware. So even in this moment where, you know, Joey is at fault here, she's able to say, like, look, I know I see Red sometimes and I do my thing. I kind of go too hard, but it's because I care about you. And she tells Joe about this conversation she had with Leva. And it gave her clarity on the situation. Once he says the situation, he's like, what situation? Now he's panicking that there's something going on that he doesn't even know about. Yeah. What situation you're talking about? And it's like leaving work. You say you're going to go to work and then you don't go. And then you go out until two in the morning. You say you're fucking networking, this, that, and the other. And then he tries,

he tries to give a defense. He's like, when I go out, I have a better chance of meeting future investors. I was like, that's a great way to say, I'm going to get drunk with my friends. I'm going to meet future investors at two o'clock in the morning. Yeah. And Maddie's immediate clapback. Like, where are they? Which investors? My actual follow-up question is, investors for what? Like, what are we doing? We don't even know what you're doing. You're still waiting for Leva and Lamar to be like, all right, Joe, we're going to open this bar, we're going to make you the head of it, we'll let you buy in for

20% and we'll see how it goes. That's what you think it is. But I feel like he just has this whole idea and it's way too much of like a grand scheme instead of just focusing on one thing. Like you're focusing on this and this is again, this is why I love him so much because he's so fucking funny. He is so stressed out about his birthday party, about emo night.

I'm not saying it's easy to coordinate all of those things, but he is incredibly stressed out about it. And as soon as he sees Leva later, he's like, see, I just, I can be doing this every day? I'm like, can you? You have been so stressed out for like months about this. So worried about all of this.

Can you actually do it every day? I think he can. Like, I think it's also different because while he's tried to do that, he's not talking to Maddie or Maddie's not talking to him. So I would imagine that adds to it. Plus he knows where he stands with Leva currently. that probably adds to it.

I would think if he's in better standing with the people close to him, I think he can handle setting up events and doing those kinds of things. And maybe he's more of a concert guy. That's what Leva was saying later. Like, maybe that's more his vibe. I don't really know. But Leva also said, like, why didn't you just do this a republic? Because he can't do that at Republic.

He needed that space. Yeah, it's throwing in the competitor line. I'm like, all right, Leva, you're doing too much. Yeah, no, you're going too far. Yeah. Yeah. We know where you are. We agree with the things you're saying about Joe.

that's completely fine, you're going a little too far of my guy. Yeah, yeah, she was really reaching with that one. But as they're going back and forth, I think the best thing that Maddie said, and I think it landed, is your reality is not reality. You need to take it and

throw it away. And she crumbles up a piece of paper that he claims he needed. He definitely didn't need that piece of paper. And she throws it over the ledge. She's like, you need to let go of this reality. And he's playing this victim mentality right now where he's like, well, I'll just take my birthday off. I'll take my birthday off and go to work. Yeah.

He's going to take his birthday off and go to work. As he's sitting here throwing this pity party and he brings up his birthday week, it's my birthday week, you should be celebrated, all of that stuff. It's like, Joe, nobody cares. I know. I mean, nobody cares. It's so funny with when Maddie's like, dude, if you want to play that game, it's my birthday week.

No, it's not your birthday's next. It's four days. We are not talking about your birthday. We're talking about my birthday. It's my week. This is my week. Okay, now you can have your week. That's very funny to me.

That was hysterical. But again, it's like you're also focusing on all of the wrong things here. Like he can't see what she's trying to say until finally, finally, finally, finally. She says, I'm trying to hold you accountable because I love you. And this line made me very happy. You said, I cope with my stress by drinking too much, not the fact that he coves the stress, like, that's not making me happy. But he acknowledges that he leans on alcohol.

He acknowledges that he has a hard time, almost impossible time saying no. So he's acknowledging these things in his relationship with alcohol, which he has never done before. He's always been defensive. And he does it in a way where he's not asking for help, but he's acknowledging what she's saying. That is such a big step. And he's also pointing out the times in which he uses booze.

like I need it as a crutch. Like it's a social thing. Like I get social anxiety. Everyone thinks I'm Joey bottles. I get anxious. Booze doesn't make me anxious. And it started in college. I realized that if I drink, I'm not nervous.

I'm not anxious. And I can be myself. I can be my quote unquote best self. And his confessional acknowledging that it's a scary premise to be your best self only with booze. This was a massive, massive, massive moment for Joe Bradley. And I was very proud of him. Yeah.

it's incredibly common too you've got a lot of things going on that you don't really want to deal with and he's he's at that part in his life where he's using like the social escape to get away from everything else when he knows deep down i should be at work i should be doing all the things that i told leva i would do but he's actually gone a step further and now can i convinced himself or he's trying to convince himself at us that he's doing it for work that he's going out and doing these things for work he knows damn well he's not he knows damn well that when he goes to a different bar when he's at work. He should be telling his girlfriend, he should just be going home or staying at work. But he's going out and now he's convinced himself like, oh, I'm going to stay out with investors.

And now I can come back to 11. You're not. Like you haven't. You're never going to. So I think he knows that deep down, but he's already gotten to that part. And now he's, he's kind of reeling himself back in. And obviously, we always felt like him and Maddie have a very good relationship. They share a lot of things. And this is good to see him very, very transparent, very open about what he's what he's dealing with. And I have no doubt my mind that Maddie's going to help him out. Yeah. Yeah. So I texted. him after that. And I was just like, that was really cool.

Thank you guys for having that conversation on camera. He's doing really well. And it was just cool. So nice job, Joe. But let's keep trucking. He was too old to have a birthday week. I didn't. It was a nice, I wanted to take it was a nice moment.

I was like, yeah, it's really cool. I'll text them and say, hey, man. You're too old to have a birthday week. I had to give him a little W in there. Yeah. But anyway, we check it at Republic real quick, only to confirm that Mia has friend zoned Justin. That's the only thing we do there.

Okay. That and Lake, and Lake, it is the right move. Get far away from that disaster. Mia. We also find out Lake has a date to Emo Night. Okay. So that's, that's all we did at Republic. All right.

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And she says, I just heard some crazy shit. And she recaps this story from the hairstylist who told her, hey, I saw Emmy last week. And she said Brad was outside of her hotel room in New York, drunk banging on the door as she was hiding naked in the bathroom. And he was stalking her. Yeah. That story got fucking crazy fast, huh? Holy shit, dude. Like, wait, I'm so confused, though.

So you were naked and afraid. Good show. Emmy's not a good show. Very great show. You were naked and afraid in the bathroom. So you were two full doors away from what you say is a very drunk Bradley pounding on the door. We have heard this story from many people, many different ways. usually when you hear it from a coherent person,

they tell you what happened. And it's that there was a group of them, T.J., Brad, Molly, all of them could hear her and Will talking, probably on the phone with her mom or sister or whoever. She wasn't alone in there. She's acting like now all of a sudden, we have now evolved to a point of absolute no return.

Like, how the fuck has it gotten this bad? According to her, it's because nobody listens to her. Nobody let me speak, which I'm like pulling my eyebrows out. at that point. Because what the fuck are you talking about? You had a chance.

He had a conversation with you. Then you went and ran your fucking mouth and were racist all over town. And then you go to the salon and you paint this picture of an absolute monster. And that's not what fucking happened. And the fact that she is this little tiny white woman proclaiming this about a black man can do so much fucking damage. so much irreparable damage to his image to his character because she is a vindictive asshole. Like I literally, when Julie is telling this, she's fuming,

I'm at home. I'm like sweating. So I'm like, you've got to be fucking kidding me that this shit's like to that degree. And it sucks too because I didn't even think that it had gone this far. And I don't know why I didn't. I just kind of figured like, yeah, she's probably talking shit to her friend.

She's talking shit to her sister. I don't know why I could not figure out that she was, doing this with everybody else in Charleston and how small of a fucking town that place is. Now we now know that she's going around town talking about it. So everybody in town is talking about it. Again, painting him as a terrible person,

again perpetuating all of this bullshit. So no, it's just insane. Like I did not see it coming and I absolutely should have seen it coming. But it just goes to show you like she's fully unhinged. This is not just she's a piece of shit. Yes, she is. She's racist. Yes, she is.

But she's also fully fucking unhinged. Like she's unwell. She should not be around other people. No, no, she shouldn't. She should not be given a platform to perpetuate this nonsense. Because then when you go, why is she getting a confessional to explain herself? No. Why am I doing this?

Why am I doing that all the time? And I'm not really sure why they give her a confessional in this moment. A lot of times I think it's the side of like, hey, this is what she says. You guys can make your point. You guys can take a look at her and just see how fucking crazy she is. Not for this. That's kind of what I err on. But, like, no, every time that she's in a confessional now, it does feel like it's coming from, like, a very unbiased point of view.

And look, I don't like a, I don't like biased point of views, but this one is absolutely should be, hey, explain your fucking self. Yeah. Like, I just, I don't think we should be letting her sit there and say, why am I so dramatic? Because nobody's listening to me. Nobody believes me. So I start losing my mind. Like, oh, let's pick on the 80D kid. Like, shut the fuck up.

Yeah, what? It's infuriating that you're now. trying to use ADD and OCD like you're on the same level being marginalized as Brad because he's black. Like that's what you're trying to do. That's fucking ludicrous. And that just keeps adding to this mess. And seriously, we, if you want to have the scenes where she's interacting with other

people, fine. She's on the show. Do what you got to do. It's part of the storylines. Fine. she does not deserve to to sit there in front of a camera alone to try and explain it, to try and soften it, to try and make it any kind of better. That's bullshit.

It's not fair. It's not fair to Brad. Yeah. It's absolutely not fair to Brad. And again, this was getting to that point where I'm still going crazy internally. Like, why the fuck is no one calling her out? Why is no one holding her accountable if she's going to keep doing this? It's one thing if we just kind of squashed, mini squashed, whatever, in the beginning of the season, and she just shut the fuck up.

Like, yeah, we would still have our feelings about her. And then when she would pop up on screen and say something that like roll her eyes at, but she's still actively doing it. Why is no one stepping in? Again, Charleston, small town. Everybody knows what's being talked about. Julia finds out of the fucking hair salon from her hairdresser. So no, everybody now knows about it. Everybody's been talking about it.

Why is no one stepping into put an end to it? I don't know. It's disappointing. like I said, I was disappointed in a lot of the cast. They didn't do a better job at supporting Brad. You know, it's not that hard. Fucking go support your guy. Anyway, keep on moving.

Oh, that last scene is going to piss me off so bad, but whatever. Maddie and Michaels, they are meeting up after New York and they're just recapping everything. And it turns out that Maddie could not play a gig in Punta Kana. So now she got the gig, so she's going to go down to the DR. I'm assuming we get cameras for that. And maybe that's how the season ends? Yeah, that's going to be the end of the season. Okay, well, there you go.

So hopefully that's stretched out. Did we get a timeline? Because that would give us an idea of episodes. Next episode would be, I guess, Maddie's birthday. And then they'll probably leave. I'm just saying when's that show compared to where we're at now? Because then we can check out episodes. Yeah, no.

I look again I'm operating under the guys that there's 12 episodes that's what I think of this. All right. That's reasonable. But we get a New York City recap and Michael's was smooching dudes made out with three guys. He's having a great time. And then he made out with TJ. TJ only made out with Michaels. I feel like I've been catching a vibe from from TJ that he's a little more into this that I don't even know if it's more into.

I think Michaels is into it too, but he's also having like his fun phase right now. Yeah. So he's, you know, doing his thing. I, I think that they have a future. I think Michaels needs to to be out and about doing his thing a little bit longer. So that when they do come together, that they, nothing silly happens. Well, we always forget to. Michaels is only like 23.

That's what I mean. He's not. He's got years left. I mean, I think we're going to get to a point. And it's going to be. probably in conversation because I like both of them, where T.J. kind of just does that. Like, hey, man, I've got feelings, but I know you're out doing all of these things. I don't want to say I'm going to sit and wait

for you, but like I can sit and wait for you. Like, it's going to be one of those situations. And it's going to be kind of sad, to be honest. But I have the utmost confidence in the two of them to have like a full sit down conversation, be able to explain everything where they're coming from because it's coming up very soon. Yeah, I think so too. At all signs point to that. It seems like it's starting to escalate a little bit. They're just feelings are involved. So I'm curious. I agree.

I think that we're actually going to get that exact conversation at some point. But let's get to emo night. And I'll say it once because Justin claims that he's still in his emo phase and he never left his emo phase. I will say he seems the most emo out of the group. Hey, man. I'll give Joe, I guess. But Justin ticks those boxes. Yeah.

Yeah. Justin definitely takes those boxes. I like when they say that he could have just gone into his closet and just picked anything out. He would have been fine. And he absolutely would have. Now thinking back on his outfits for the season. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Who did you think had the best fit?

Mia, by far. Far and away, Mia. Mia, then Maddie, only because Maddie was going for that Avril Levine look, which I think she pulled off very well. But Mia, Mia had it down to a T. Yeah, and I appreciate that she took the C. approach. Sierra goes for a good costume.

Not a sexy costume, a good costume. That's what she did. Looked great. I agree. I think she won. But we have to set the stage for later, just because we know all the shit's going on. So they're asking me,

like, hey, do you think the girls are going to be nice? She's like, no. And I don't know what the fuck I did. This is the craziest, like, middle school bullshit I've ever seen, which it is. It's pretty wacky that it's, like, going to get to the level it gets to later.

Molly is thinking, that the only reason Lake doesn't like me is because Emmy doesn't like me, which that seems like a little line. But when you look at everything going on right now, that's a bigger question. Like, is your allegiance to Emmy? The evolution of this whole storyline is very interesting

because we had a lot of different questions early on when Lake and Emmy were friends. We started with the horoscope bullshit on her phone, talking about how a new friend could come into your life and it might be this person. And that's why they became friends. That was bullshit. But the more and more that we get from Lake, I'm like,

ah, yeah, I can totally see the two of you being friends, sitting down together and talking about how terrible everybody else is and how great you guys are and just staying involved in other people's businesses. That's what you're going to do and that's what you've done all season. Lake has, I didn't know what to make of her. I gave her a pass a lot just because we kind of just kept saying that she was young. At this point, I'm like, she's kind of a loser. then this is kind of who she is.

It's good-ish for TV. I'm still undecided on that. It's reaching the point of like, okay, dude, too much. It's enough. It's way too much. And like, I don't even think it's overplayed. Like, I think that's just who she is, which is why I use the L word and calling her a loser,

because that is loser behavior. Like, what she was doing at this party was stupid. Yeah, it was ridiculous. It literally was like we were at a high school dance or something. Like, I couldn't believe that adults are doing that. It's pretty, Yeah. But before we get to that, we get to see Joe and his brother.

And his brother, Michael, has got a big corporate job in Chicago. He's intelligent, successful, all these things. And he always lets Joe know that he can be doing a lot more, which Joe needs in his life. So nice job, Michael. But the big thing here, Joe's planning on proposing soon. Yeah, we heard this last year too. Don't know what to make it up. Not really sure.

I know I understand the sentiment where you say like, you know, that was the hardest week of my life because I couldn't talk to my best friends, my person. And it kind of put things into perspective. And I'm like, that's not the right takeaway. I don't think. Like, I think the takeaway should be let's focus on why we spent that week apart and now work on those things and then worry about other things down the line and have those conversations. So, but at the end of the day, it's Joe. Like this is how Joe thinks. He's always going to do that.

He was talking about proposing to Maddie last year and they'd only be dating for like six months. So I fully expect it. I just want to make sure he's got all his ducks in a row because I don't want to watch a scene where him and Maddie are talking about marriage and she just has to say like, I'm not ready yet and it breaks his heart. And then it breaks all of our hearts. Like I don't want to, I don't want to do that.

So I want Joe to go into this with the right mentality. Figure it out. Talk to your girlfriend. See if the timing's right. and then go from there. Stop saying this on camera because it's going to put her in an awkward position when she watches it later because she doesn't know that you just said that to your brother. Now she knows.

And she's like, okay, I guess we have to have this conversation now. To your point, focus on your shit, get it together a little bit and then see where you're at in like a year or two. You know, and then reevaluate.

But not right now. You've got too much going on. She's got too much going on. She's bopping around. You're trying to figure it out. She's there. She's not going anywhere. You know, just pace yourself.

Cherish the time you have. It reminds me of Billy Madison. Cherish it. Well, let's get to the green room for Emo Night. We get to meet Morgan, who is the founder. And again, I think it's pretty telling that they didn't mention Sheena. I think that omission, she's probably irritating to deal with in real life. But, hey, he did invite Leva because he wants her to see.

him in action. So now he's got extra stress. He's like, well, if it's a bust and like, Leva's never going to take me seriously. Do you feel the same way I do that this is all self-imposed stress that like this is not a make or break from Leva in any way, shape, or form? Yeah, I mean, no, he's put all of this on himself, but he's doing it backwards. Again, we talked about it before. Like, you should have told Leva in the beginning, picked her brain a little bit and see what

she was going to think like yeah i agree with him like i don't think this is the type of event to have at republic or lamars or wherever she's going to have it but i think that you should have brought her in earlier just kind of talked about her like the logistics of like what this is and then let her know like hey i'm doing this so i can show you now again obviously he doesn't have his ducks in a row anyway so he's not going to work anymore but he's doing this so it's not really going to land the way that he would think it's just funny to me that it took him this long like we've gone through this entire process. We've talked about this emo night for the entire season. We finally get here and you're like, all right, I got to have a sit down with Leva and let her know, I did this to show

her. It's like, you didn't because you told us a million times along the way that you were doing it for yourself, which either yourself in the sense of it's my birthday and I want to have fun and just like throw a big event, but also to prove to myself that I'm capable of doing these things, which, yeah, he was very stressed out the whole time, but it looks like it went off without a hitch, so that's great. But don't now tell us that you're bringing Leva into the the fold to show her what kind of guy you can be because as far as we know you're still not showing up for work the way that she wants you to yeah again and that's that's the disconnect in his brain because he thinks that if this goes off without a hitch and everyone's there it's packed

it's a great time leva's going to give me a bar no she's going to wonder why you're not at work still yeah like you get to clean that up then then focus on the other ship but that's where you get the line from level where she's like, you know, I'm proud to see him take a risk on himself. But why would he do it at Republic? He just filled a competitor space, very odd brand to not think it throws. Like, all right, dude. He's been through the ringer. You got him.

Like, he's, he's back on track, I think. Leave him alone. Now, I think objectively funny is that Emmy doesn't even know how to dress up for Emo night. Brittany Spears is the furthest thing from Emo. And she comes in. Didn't she wear this outfit already? She wore this for a different party in like season two.

I thought so too. Thank you. Yeah. This seems familiar. Yeah. I only know that because she definitely had a crash out in that outfit. So I remember it. Wait, it's all coming back.

Coming back to me. Where were we? Brad to Julia. Julia is walking on eggshells right now because she's about to go off. She's like, I might cry because I'm so angry. I'm feeling all this rage. Emmy is doubling down, tripling down on shit. And Julia's about.

to snap. Thank God, Julia snaps because God, I can't wait to talk about it. It's so fucking good. But before we do that, we meet Nessa, who is Lake's date to this whole thing. They've been on a few dates and she likes her, so we'll see where that whole thing goes. It's hard for me to be fully invested until she stops being such an asshole. But, you know, I will give her credit. I know that she came out and shared her sexuality last season. That was really tough for her. and she still had fallout from her dad that she's still currently dealing with. I don't want to take away from the fact that she is putting herself out there. That's not an easy thing to do.

So I will give her credit for that. I want to totally shit on her just because she is going to lose her mind in a little bit. Yeah, we can compartmentalize that situation because I think, like you just said, and I agree, she went through all of that last year. So we love seeing progress. We love seeing, you know, kind of following through on the things that we watched in a storyline last year. I can keep that separate from weird shitty behavior. Same, same.

But we will talk about the weird shitty behavior, too. Don't worry, guys. Now, Joey, he's living large. Night's going off without a hitch. O'Sheane arrives. We get to see a little clip of the Milkman, which I could have done without. Yeah.

Now, what we didn't know, Lake and O'Shee had a little thing. That's allegedly one night, but it sounds more like two or three nights. I think Joe said two or three nights. So he, yeah, Joe said it's his favorite three-day, love story of all time. Yeah, that's what it was. We get a Sally spotting. We get a Charlie spotting.

We need to do a little pivot, a little Southern charm pivot. She dove in pretty quick with the old Jay Dog. It's the love bomb cycle. We've got Craig. We've got Justin. We've got Charlie. Charlie and Justin are still together to my knowledge. So this was their second date. I, like, I'm fine with it. Again, obviously, as soon as Southern Charm people show up, all of a sudden, everybody's talking about love bombing again, could do without that. Yeah, it took all of two seconds. It kind of makes sense to me, the two of them. It makes sense to me, too. I was more just thinking about the timeline and trajectory, comparing it to the Craig trajectory. And I was like, oh, this is after Craig.

No, I know that. I'm saying her going into it as quickly as she did when there are similarities to the Craig situation was surprising to me. That's what I'm alluding to. Well, she doesn't have to lie to anybody about kissing him. That's a good point. Now, we should check in with Sally to see if Sally wanted to hook up with Justin first.

Oh, shit. Did anybody ask? What if the love triangle happened again and we didn't get to see it? God. I'd be fine. I'd be so upset. I don't think you're being serious right now.

I'm not. No, no, that was painful. Well, don't worry. Lake starts talking shit about Mia, just saying that she's just such a bitch. She's just like such a bitch.

And Mia is just watching her doing all of this. And I can't imagine, Mia's like what? She's close to our age, right? She's a little younger. She's 28. Okay. I can't imagine being like an adult in a bar or an event like this and seeing that happening. like what the hell is going on do you think that when mea went over to talk to her like obviously you know

you're catching a vibe you already knew this is what was going to happen before you even showed up you know what happened on the last friday night as they said when we were at zack stacks now do you think she went over to her because it's the show and it's like all right we have to talk about this like let me go pull her aside to talk or do you think that mea just wanted to like see if she could swash it i think that she is getting to a point where she's about to go off and I don't think she wants to. I think she wants it to just be over with before she says some like unforgivable shit. So I think this was an attempt to be like, hey, let's just end this now before it goes too

far. That's the vibe I got. I didn't get like a showy standpoint from this. No. I'm okay with it. I got to make my stance clear. I'm completely fine with it because I think it does work for the show. I mean, like that's exactly what you want to see.

I mean, we just see it in a minute anyway with Emmy and Julia. But I do think that it was. for the show. I think it was like otherwise Mia strikes me as somebody who would just look at like see her doing all of those things and say yeah, I'm not fucking touching that I'm moving on. Okay. That's fair. I can see it going either way. That does make a lot of sense though. So maybe that was it. But either way, she does go over there, tries to handle it like a grown up. Hey, can we go talk? Yeah. It's Joe's birthday. I just want to get drunk. Come on my friends. It's Joe's birthday. I'd rather not

to Joe's birthday. He's turning 30. This is a funeral for his 20s. The problem, the biggest problem for me is when she walks away, now she's tough. Now she's talking shit. Now she wants to say, I don't want to talk to that bitch.

I don't want to talk to that, but she's saying it louder and louder. Mia already clocked it. When she was standing right there, you didn't have the time because you didn't have your friends. You don't have your minions there like you did at the table at Zach Stacks where you feel emboldened. Do you feel like you can go after Mia? They're not doing that. So you say you don't want to talk. You want to enjoy the part. The minute she walks away, now you get tough. Boom. Nope. That's not

how it works. I thought you wanted to hang out with your friends and get drunk. Doesn't seem like it. Seems like you have a lot of energy for this. Exactly. And that's where I think Mia is probably just going I'd be like, I'm done because she says you're just fucking weird and pathetic. Like I'm not getting involved with this whole thing. So I don't know what's going on. But the best scene in the history of this show, Julia can't take it anymore. She sees Emmy there. She goes, hey, let's go talk.

On the way out, Emmy let us know in her confessional what she's thinking. She's like, I've known Julia for years. I encouraged her to date. Brad. Finally, somebody to talk to. That's how you know that she is not mentally well. She's been going around town talking so much shit about Julia's boyfriend. And she's under the impression that she's going to go have a Kiki with Brad's girlfriend. And everything will be right. That tells you that her brain is not braining. No, and we've seen it all season. I mean, she had that conversation with her sister, which didn't get back to anybody, but she did the same

conversation with Justin that immediately got back to everybody. And when she gets called out about it, she has no idea what you're talking about. What do you mean? I didn't say anything. I thought we squashed this. We did. You opened it back up by bringing somebody else into the fold. She's doing that with everything. And then she's, I'm not even going to say coincidentally, like, as sarcastically, she's forgetting that she's doing this, which means that she's either blacking out in like a weird rage and talking to people about it because she can't shut up about it or she's mentally unwell to the point where it's just unbearable. Either way, get her out of here.

Yeah. Like, by, you've run out of lives. Like, it doesn't work anymore. And Julia brings up, like, defaming Brad's name. You know, you're saying he's drunkenly banging in your door that you were naked and afraid in your bathroom. That he's stalking, like all of this stupid shit. Does that ring a bell and she starts speed talking?

The only thing I said, I thought, I thought, I, I, I just said, Brad, was outside of my door. Cut to confessional. Well, who have I been talking to? It's like, what the fuck to walk with you? Like, you lunatic. So you do know you've been talking shit. So I don't understand until you think about it.

It's the white women tears, dude. She's used to doing shit and not having repercussions. She's used to just skating by and things blowing over. No, not for this. And I'm glad that Julie's holding her feet to the fire. And she brings up the microaggressions. if you pay attention to when Annie loses her shit the most, it's when people bring up the racist stuff.

Then she goes off the rails. I do not believe and I do not subscribe to the idea that she doesn't know what she's doing, that she does not understand microaggressions. At the very least, she knows she's doing something wrong and she's not copying to it. At all, not even remotely. And she's like, how do he make you feel unsafe?

You want to keep saying unsafe? when it keeps saying unsafe. How? She is trying to just play. It's like a fucking playbook for racist white women. She's like, I am a woman. And he stalked my hotel room. No, he didn't.

Will was in there with you. You guys were talking shit. And he texted you rather than bang on the door. So he actually could have banged on the door and said, hey, shut the fuck up. Stop talking about me. And by the way, I wouldn't have an issue with that either. But he didn't do those things. And he

kept his composure to try to avoid this exact situation. And you are taking advantage of the fact that you are tiny and white and he is strong and black. That's all that's happening. And she knows that. She's trying to get other people to spin their perspective to see this big, scary man. That's not Brad.

And everyone there fucking knows, Brad. It's not landing. And just because you hyperventilate, quote unquote, and speed talk and do all this like, wo is me somebody please help me damsel in distress shit shove it up your ass no one's buying it like she's just fucking nuts bro yeah she's she's way too far gone she is way too nuts and the story is just getting more and more convoluted like i fully anticipate the next time this gets brought up brad had like a machete like that that's what i'm gonna hear he's he's he's got an axe at the door and he's pulling a jack nicholson in the shining like he's he's chopping down

her door while she is naked and afraid in the bathroom alone and he's coming after her. Like, that's where she's going to go. And she keeps getting worse and worse with this whole thing. And to your point, anytime you bring up the microaggressions, as soon as Julia, and I don't even want to say lost her cool,

because she was so composed this whole time, which was incredibly impressive. It was so impressive to watch. At the end of it, she's like, I don't even know how to fucking get through to you. I'm going to call you a privileged-ass bitch and see how that goes. And as soon as she brings that up, it's like, boom, there's your snap.

There's your snap back into action. that's when Emmy's going to respond. That's when she's going to freak out. She's like, whoa, no, I'm not doing this. Actually, I am going to do this and comes right back at it. That's where she is. She knows what she's doing is wrong. She knows what she's doing can be at the very least perceived as racist.

She doesn't want to be lumped into that, but she continues to do it. It's like this weird song and dance that doesn't make any fucking sense. And it's only adding up to she's mentally unwell. Yeah. Yep. That's literally all she does it in this scene. He called me a dumb bitch. No, he didn't.

Well, he implied that. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. You just made that up. Two separate text messages. He called you a bitch and he said you were dumb in two separate text messages. You put them together. Yep.

Yep. Exactly. And Julia ends it with, we're done. See ya. Smell you. Never talking to you again. Go fuck yourself. Oh, my God.

Dude, I like cheered. I paused it and like had a round of applause. It was so good. Because it's the first time that we've seen anybody on this cast have a normal reaction to Emmy. Like we've been sitting at home watching this. So like, how is no one responding to this? How is no one holding her accountable?

I don't know. I don't know. And we're going to get more crazy town because now she's on a war path walking around just talking. Like, this is what you do. You're doing it now. And I'm sure she said some racist shit along the way, microaggressions, whatever. She's walking around on a tirade instead of paying attention to what Julia said to you and understanding or trying at the very least to understand. She's talking to some random chick.

I don't know if it was Ella, Bella or Zella. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like, you know, for the time being at the very least, like, drop it. But not before. And credit to Aria, did you take ownership for everything you said? Yep. Side step.

I'm not going to answer that. Drop it. Fuck no, I'm not dropping it. Would you drop it? Oh my God. Yeah. 99.999% of people. So long ago, I would have dropped it. Yeah.

Like, you don't have any ground to stand on here. And you cannot say, I need a conversation with Brad. You fucking had one, bro. You talked to him. Multiple. And you apologized. And then you went to everybody else in town and said he was scary and stalking and threatening you. So that conversation is Nolan Boyd.

You don't get another conversation because it's very clear where you stand. So kindly go fuck yourself. Leave Brad alone. Yeah, I actually didn't even put that together too because we just got back to back normal people. Julia is standing up and just being like, what the fuck is going on? Now we've got an actual friend of Emmys sitting there like, what is go? Why are you not taking accountability?

Do you not acknowledge the racist shit you said? Are you never, you're never going to do that? Okay, drop it because it's only going to get worse. No, why? Would you drop it? Yeah. What are you nuts? Yeah, I want to drop it for you.

Like, I don't want to see it anymore. No. Well, that's, I think the hard. hardest part about all of this is to when you see like Brad make comments about Emmy. He always, he's still, I don't know where he is now, but in this moment, he's still looking for some way to explain her behavior. He's still looking for some way to take some of the blame away from her and saying like, I don't really get it.

Like I'll talk to her. She seems fine. And then clearly she's going home and she's, and obviously he's implying that it's will is in her ear, making her do these things, making her. her say these things, making her step back on all the things that she apologized for or at least notice. And it's not getting anywhere. So that's what I think is the most tough thing to watch. Yeah. And him not be able to like fully express himself because he doesn't have perpetuate any more bullshit. Like that sucks. He has to sit there and stifle what he's feeling.

Yep. To avoid more racism from Emmy. Like that's yeah, dude, it's fucking brutal. But the only silver lining I'm hoping because they go, Brad and Julie talk to Michael's, Like, hopefully the rest of the group wakes up and starts speaking up. Like, we can no longer, if this happens again, like, God forbid, we have another thing pop off of Emmy. Every single person on the cast needs to stand up and just like push her out of the room. Like, you got to do something. You got to show up for your boy. But the good news is Joe had the best night of his life.

Maddie had the best night of her life, which is, yeah, not. DJing in Vegas, not doing all that. It was with Joey Bottles in this little venue in Charleston. That was the best night of her life. That's true love right there. And finally, Leva finally gives Joe his flowers. Hey, amazing. You're driven.

That's the best part. This one night. She goes, you're driven now. I'm like, oh, yeah, he's fixed. I, Levin knows what she's doing. She's got that LVP production. Just like, yeah, you know, I'm going to give him shit the whole time. Now I'm like, was.

he doing that bad of a job or are you doing this for the show? Was he coming to work? And the LVP, dude. Yeah, like, now I'm not really sure where he was. But I do think you're adding more fuel to the fire. And I get it and I understand what you're doing. And you're very good at it. So I will give love of that.

Yeah. Yeah, she's great at it. She has stepped into the LVP role of this show very well, I think. But yeah. Yeah. It's just tough. It's just really tough. But let's get to some questions.

First one up here from Annika Green. I need an O'Sheen disclaimer before episodes from now on. Yes, we've done that with a number of people on these shows. We do need a disclaimer. Some sort of ad in the middle. Like, hey, just heads up. Flash warning. Trigger warning.

Yeah, milk warning. Let's see. Reschievous, would I have a partner with Joe if asked? No. the venue simply Republic doesn't work no Republic you could do Republic at that venue

like yeah that's where like I don't know and again when she's like yeah it's a competitor it looks like a fucking warehouse like it's just an event space it's not like an actual competitor it's not a bar restaurant so I do think that you could probably have Republic come in and sponsor some things but I mean honestly watching watching everything come together looks like Joe did a great job with the vendors

I don't know how much emo night in their team does. But they, I mean, they had merch there. They had obviously bartenders come in. I'm sure there was some food and stuff around the corner. So I think he actually did a really good job. It's funny too because the way he talks, he's talking about all this shit that he does, but he didn't really mention the ins and outs of what he was doing. And then you see the event, you're like, oh, wow, it's actually a really well put together event.

So you were actually stressed out about real things. But the entire time you were telling us that you were stressed out because you were just trying to sell tickets. I'm like, don't minimize what you're doing. Yeah, Nikki Mano 23. How long you're allowed to celebrate your birthday? And she, uh, all caps for day. That the day. Yep.

Yeah. That's in there. Yeah. Just the day. I don't even celebrate mine, really. People around me celebrate my birthday, but I don't give up. Yeah. Uh, from, oh, Joe, no, Joe.

Is Maddie too emotionally mature for Joe? He loves her, but is the gap widening. I think he'll get there. I think I do too. Honestly, I don't even think he's like emotionally immature. I think he's just goofy, which. which, you know, that's just his personality. I think he's fine.

And obviously, I mean, he loves her more than anything else. So I think that'll help him. But I mean, Maddie's gone through a lot and she's figured out a lot of shit. Whereas Joe didn't really have that. He didn't go through those things to get to the point that he is right now. He's going through much more of like a normal timeline, questioning his self-worth, looking at other people, his own age or younger that are doing bigger and better things, wondering what he wants to do.

Like, that's all very normal. Maddie went through some very not normal things. So it's obviously a credit to where she is. Yeah, like you said, I think that they'll get there. I think that Maddie has the patience and Joe, believe it or not, I do believe has the drive to get to where they need to be.

So yeah, no, I think they'll make it. Let's see. Bonnie, Rachel, what the fuck happened to Lake this season? I think this is who Lake is. I don't think this is this season. I think she's doing a lot more, obviously.

But I got more springtime this season. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, that's, it may just be who she is. Let's see. From Q Dog 3, 2, 3.3, the whole time watching this episode, I couldn't wait to hear you guys talk about it. Hopefully we lived up to your hopes there. Yeah.

From Mike Bros. Was that the best example of someone using their platform by Julia for hard conversations? By far, one of the best. Yep. That's one of the best reads we've gotten on Bravo to a very personal. and very real issue and she ate and left not one crumb uh from mikey white the one week hiatus of emmy being a demon was nice while it lasted fucking yikes yeah well said yeah it she's always there and that's the problem we have we have an episode where you don't see her and you're like wow

it's actually kind of nice what's missing oh yeah emmy's missing she's always there she is just always somewhere in the background even when she's not on the show i'm going to assume that she's around Oden's daughter, why was Emmy so scared when her fiance and mom were in the room with her? Because she leaves that part out conveniently to make Brad sound like a monster because she's a fucking asshole. A couple more. From Ashley Krollchick, is Emmy really that serious? Or is she playing up for the show? Will doing some producing?

This is not played up. She is fucking bad shit crazy. But yes, Will not doing producing for the show. Will is doing producing for isolation. emmy from everybody else correct so that he can keep cheating on her because he's also a piece of shit yep and bet me bet me he fucking looked at our story bet me i'm not gonna look through it right now but he low he's always one of the first people to look at our fucking stories fucking weirdo i don't see i'm on here

let's do uh one more if we have a good one in here oh this is actually great uh from jenny mcgill if stasi got fired for calling the cops on faith can Emmy get fired for racism towards Brad? She should. Absolutely. She absolutely should. They should make a statement and they should get rid of her. They should show Brad and other people of color on the network that they won't tolerate

things like this. They won't platform it. They won't continue to give her confessionals where she can try and explain away her racist behavior. Because that's all, like she literally gets platforms to try to tell you why something wasn't racist. Like, no. Nope. I'm good.

Go fuck yourself. But yes, they should absolutely fire her and they should make a big deal out of it, personally. That's what I think. But anyway, we will see what happens. Don't have high hopes for her, but have very high hopes for the show. Great season, great show, great cast, really enjoying it. But that's all I got.

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