Bros & Shows - Boat Rides, Juice Boxes and the Virgin of Guadalupe (RHOM Full Recap)

Episode Date: February 5, 2024

What's up Bros? we are in Mexico City with the ladies of Miami. Lisa is about to reach a settlement with Lenny so that she and the group can hopefully move on from this, but Lenny adds on stipulation... Alexia takes everyone to the Virgin of Guadalupe to help Guerdy in her battle with cancer and we see a very touching moment where the group truly comes together in the church. Julia has emotions brought back to the surface after she tells us about losing her faith after losing her son. Later we have a boat ride that gets heated as Lisa and Kiki get into it due to Lisa making comments about some of the locals living situations. The surprise of the episode was Larsa, who supported Guerdy and also calls out Lisa for her recent behavior. All in all one of the better episodes of the season in our humble opinion. Time Stamps: RHOM (4:00) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody.

For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell. joined as always by the one and only Legutes. What's up, dude? Oh, it's officially February. You know what that means? No. It's my birthday month. I'm going to be a big birthday month guy. No, because... It's the whole month. No, I stole your birthday. What fuck does that mean?

That means that I got married on your birthday, so that is now more important than your birthday. Your wife just said, what are you doing for your birthday? Will join. It's not an anniversary party. That is my birthday. That is damning. That is too. Damning against our anniversary. Thanks, Dev, for prioritizing us.

Hard to come back from. Sheesh. Yeah, you win that one. That's either, we'll give her the benefit of the doubt and just say that she's thinking about me instead of forgetting about your anniversary immediately. For the record, just so people don't think I'm actually being mean. We sang happy birthday at our wedding to you. Just want to clarify that.

Give you some cake, too. We did give you some cake. It wasn't even the wedding cake. We gave you a birthday cake because we're nice people. Nice people. Wow, what a birthday that was. Birthday to remember. So, yeah, big birthday month.

guy, I'm going to make this entire month about me. That sounds miserable. Yeah, dude, buckle up. I don't want to be a party to this. All right, that's fun. Well, let's talk about something different because there was something online that was really funny. Oh, yay. And I don't think that whoever posted it thought it was going to get like this.

And by whoever I mean Elmo. Oh, my God, yes. Fuck yes. This was amazing. I'm so glad you brought this up. So if everybody's been living under a rock, which I'm going to assume you have been, because you're not as online as we are. We are very online people.

Elmo tweeted out and just said, how's everybody doing today? That's it. And boy, oh boy, those quote tweets and memes were incredible. They were. Because let me tell you, Elmo, not good. No. It's fucking January.

Why would you do it in January? The longest month in the history of months. There's one that. It's fucking cloudy. And I haven't seen the sun in six weeks. The whole timing of it was actually kind of incredible because We're on the brink of World War 3. The economy sucks.

Everything's expensive. It's January. It's cloudy, cold, rainy, wet, snowy, you name it. Everyone's miserable right now. How you doing? Really bad, Elmo. For the vast majority, not awesome. Thanks for checking in. But that was the best part. He followed it up with a tweet. Wow. Really glad I asked.

This is a good reminder to check on your friends. Hashtag mental health Monday. Jesus Christ. It was so good. I wonder what they were. expecting. I have absolutely no idea. I don't think that they expected it to blow up. And it was from like the official Elmo account. So, you know, whatever. It was incredible. It was just so funny because that's the thing is once people start going off about feeling terrible and not good Elmo, people, people, it makes people laugh. And it has the opposite effect. So people start laughing about it. So you know what, Elmo? Good job. Yeah, good job. Way to get trauma dumped on. And then it was like all tied together. Larry David was on some like good morning show. and assaulted Elmo. It's like somebody had to do it.

So, yeah, just a great moment from Sesame Street. We love when Sesame Street gets brought up on Bravo, as we know. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, that was a way, way to go. Good drop in. Yeah, big time stuff there from Elmo. So, yeah, I thought we'd start off the episode with my birthday month and a little Elmo. Yeah, and then when they have addiction awareness, they can bring the cookie monster up and he can ask how everyone's doing.

That's what we're talking about. But it is our second Friday episode, so that means it is time for little. Burm-Bamp-Ber-Bin-Ber-Bin-B-B-B-B-Hur-B. Mr. WorldBack. Yeah, this is 305. I was sure if you were going to do it. I thought you were going to start it off. I didn't do it at the live show last week.

I know. I was pretty upset, actually. You kind of left me hanging. Yeah, I guess. But, you know, it kind of left me feeling isolated and vulnerable alone on stage. But if it made you like that all, no, buddy. Don't tell it. to me. I did. I tweeted out of like a hundred times. I'm like, I need to talk to you, Elmo.

Things are bad. No, that's the funny. Listen to your voicemails, Elmo. I called him. Yeah. No, we've actually had a really good month, so I can't complain. But we are back in Miami and in Mexico City, to be exact. And we didn't talk about Miami this week, but we did watch. So we're up to speed, don't you worry. But we start out the episode and everyone's going to see the Virgin Guadalupe to pray for Gertie, to pray for everybody in the group, just to get some good vibes as, Alexias told us she leaned heavily on the Virgin Guadalupe during Frankie's accident and when he was getting back to health and everything like that. And she really believes in. And I think that regardless of what your belief system is, and they reference this when they get to the church

later, there is something powerful about a group of people that you're close to all coming together in unity in big moments, such as this. And for Gertie, even for Lisa, who her shit is so fucking annoying and we're going to talk about that but the fact that everyone can come together and be like yes there's a lot going on we have a lot of issues but this is a healing moment so i like that they're all on board for all this stuff but we talk more about julia and she references that she quit the church she walked away from it after her son died and talks about how she hired her nanny and we've heard the story and it's awful and this woman shook her baby to death you know shaken baby syndrome is a real thing and she lost her son so her relationship with

with God and the church after that moment was Nolan Void. And it's an interesting perspective on religion, and it's something that, I don't know, I think a lot of people have those moments, and that's where they kind of turn their back to it. Yeah, I would say so. And that's the thing about Julia is she's always willing to share. Yeah.

She is always willing to talk about her personal life. She's always willing to lean into it. It's not a storyline for her. It's just her talking and just her sharing with people, whether it's her friends or the viewers or whatever it might be, and it's always something deep and something about her life and she can provide so much perspective on things. That's why I love Julia for this show

because she's just got so many levels to her. So her willing to share that. One, it takes away from the stupid fucking Lisa Lenny bullshit that we have to endure and endure and endure, which I despise and I got so annoyed. I texted you and I said, I hate this fucking episode. And you're like, I love to this episode. I'm like, you know what, shut the fuck up.

We looked at different things, apparently. We looked at very different things. But what this church scene did give us, was a very iconic shot. All of them standing there with the candles and the church. And we got this, obviously, we got a little bit of an older church

in Beverly Hills when they were in Bartholona. Now we're over here. I'm going to laugh every time. Now we're down in Mexico. Don't do that. Why can't I do Bartholona, but I can't do Mexico? I don't know.

It's okay. But I'll pronounce the X next time. You know why? Because nobody down there is saying Mexico in jest. Like, they're not trying to be... I guarantee Doritos. We are not doing Beverly Hills anymore. I know.

That's my point. Like, Dorit's not down there trying to show everybody that she can speak other languages, so it doesn't hit the same. That's a good point, actually. That's all. Whatever. Either way, we got a great shot with them in a nice... Which I love an old church and look, like, I'm not big on religion, but I can appreciate an old church as like a structure. Because those are the one, those are the structures that are most well kept, I would say.

Yeah, I would agree. At least over time, like, they tend to... provide maintenance to those, which is always fascinating to see. They have a lot of money. They have a lot of money, and there's also a lot of history there. But even the churches in Europe, too. We can go on a little tangent here. They're really fun to watch, except for when Notre Dame burned down.

That sucked. Anyway. The hunchback got out. Yeah, he got out of there. Yeah, whatever. Swung on the thing, and he's fine. He's fine. He got stabbed, but it's okay.

Whatever. But it was really cool to see all of them get together, and obviously Gertie's situation going on right now. All of them together is very important. It is. Providing support is the most important thing that you can do at a time like this. And that's what Marisol highlights. It's just this rare moment of unity.

And I just talked about it. But it is. It's important because I do think that regardless of religion, you know, your head space and your mental space, when you're going through something so difficult, something so life-altering, it can play a major factor in staying positive and staying supported and knowing that you have people around you.

for them to come together in this moment, even Larsa, there was a big Larsa moment because we've seen her kind of belittle this whole cancer journey. She's kind of just like, this isn't a big deal. Like I'm so concerned about being correct that I'm not going to like give you the sympathy that you need. So to see her next to Gertie comforting her just saying simply, I got you. I got your back and crying with her like that was so important because that shows you that beneath it all, even when she's, She's trying to save face and show that she's not phased by anything. Like, she does care. And that's all Gertie wanted from the jump was just, like, show me that you give a shit.

And so for her to get past it and be like, yeah, obviously I care, it was important. It was nice to see. Overall, just a big episode from Larissa, right? Like, we're going to give her her flowers. Although I just remembered something. What? When was the last time she saw Marcus? Maybe she's just in her feels.

It's been two days. Oh, that's right. She's got to be really sad. She's a long time. Separation anxiety. bro. She had a fate. Ha,

you just plug their podcast. Nobody's going to go listen to it. Not our listeners. I wonder what those numbies are. Check them numbies.

God, if they're better than ours, I'm going to be furious. I might not come back from that. That's how the show ends. Show ends. I refuse to do it. Robbros break up

after learning that separation anxiety does better. But we get them on the ride home and Gertie even references the fact that Larsa stepped up at the church. And we get back to Julia and she's processing this whole thing and it was it was tough for her to go back in there

because it brings up a lot of old feelings and this moment fucking destroyed me and it's not the same thing I'm not saying it's the same thing it's just when she said the only thing that kept me sane and from you know killing myself and losing myself was my dog louis and bro my mom even says it to this day the only reason I'm still alive is because I had And I had to take care of Louie every day. So when she said that, I was just like, fuck, it hit me in the gut. And I was like, God, damn it. Like, it's just, thank God for that dog.

Thank God for my dog. The power of animals, you know? Power of animals. It's a beautiful thing. Fear than you. It is a beautiful thing. But to hear her open up once again. And I think that why these moments with Julia resonate, even more so than when some of the other ladies open up,

is because it, you can tell it's not in any way, shape, or form a clout chasing moment. It's 100% she wants to share with us and say, this is something I went through. And the open vulnerability without that little sprinkle of I'm doing this for a storyline, like it's really important. And that's where I know these are reality shows. I know we watch them to be entertained. A lot of people watch them because they can turn their brain off during these shows. But I think it's important that when you have a platform as big as this and you can reach people

and resonate with people on something more serious, I think it is important, regardless of the setting. Yeah. She's always very authentic. She's always very much herself. And look, I mean, she's obviously garnered a lot of support just because she does these things very consistently. And she does these all the time. And there's multiple times per season where she'll just go into something that happened in her life that can resonate with a lot of people. And you build up a lot of support by doing things like that.

So now when she does whatever she's going to do, we don't even question it. We don't even think about it being inauthentic. We don't even think about her doing anything for her storyline. It's just, oh, that's Julia, just sharing very deeply into her life. and we love it. Yep, it's J B and J. B and J. J B and J. B and J.

but we have to come back down to Earth because there's too many feels, there's too many happy moments, too many people coming together. We have to tear this down and we've got to talk about Lisa and her settlement. And they ask her like,

how are you feeling about the settlement? She's like, not great, but I feel okay. We find out that Lenny is ready to sign, which thank God, let's just put this to rest. Like, I would love to know the stipulations in this contract

to see how much she's actually getting. Yeah. to know what she is still hung up on. And we're going to talk about something else that comes up later. Actually, we're going to talk about it right now. Talk about it right now. Let's get it out of the way. The one stipulation, because Lenny calls her and says there's one little thing,

and he says that a man can't permanently reside in the house that he's planning on paying for. Now, there's two ways to take this, and I want your opinion on it. And I talk to Dev about it. The one way is that this man's still trying to control you. He's trying to say that a man's not going to live with you in my house, not the one I'm paying for, one. The other is, if you find a man that can financially support you, I'm not going to pay for you two to live in a house. You guys can pay for that. Which one do you think he's pointing to?

Is it a little bit of both? Because I know he's spiteful as shit. Lenny's not getting a pass. He's a piece of trash. I hate that fucking guy. But is it him saying, I don't want another man in the house, or is it him saying, I'm not paying for a dude to live with you? Well, we know he doesn't care about the kids. He does not.

They're irrelevant things. They are very irrelevant because that's the first thing that my mind went to was the, and I forget who it was. Oh, it was Larsa talking about it with Marcus, where she was like, yeah, you know, Scotty doesn't really care who I'm with and I don't care who Scotty's with. We don't really ask about it, which is very weird.

So my mind immediately went to that thinking, oh, Lenny care that like his children are going to be around another guy, like permanently living there. That's really strange. I think it's a little bit of both with it being more so the former, the first thing that you brought up where he's being more controlling. you do i think that he wants to be controlling because i think he does want to stick it to her for whatever reason he's he's a piece of shit there's no way to get past it

if he was truly happy in whatever life he's building now with this 18 year old model that he met while he was doing plastic surgery then he would not give a shit what leases doing if he cared about the kids he would have some sort of say in who his children are around he doesn't care about the kids we've made that very clear over the last season and a half so no that's not the other thing i think he's just trying to be controlling and stick it to her because because she's putting him through all this and he still has to pay her out the nose for her, which I don't even think he cares about the money. He just wants to have that control aspect where, yeah, I'm not going to see you all the time.

And I know I've been putting you through hell with all of this and you're freaking out. And you're literally losing your mind, as we see on screen numerous times in this episode. I think that's what he wants to do. But yeah, I do also agree from a financial standpoint. He's rich and he's probably got lawyers over there thinking, well, yeah, if she finds somebody else that can financially support her, then she shouldn't have a guy there. So I think it's like 75-25 controlling to the financial aspects. Okay.

I get a bow with that. But they get back to the hotel and Adriana, she's resting, getting ready for the show. We got a big show. You don't think she's a real performer. She got a pretty big festival tomorrow. So you're about to eat your words there, pal. No, I'm not. We find out that Lisa finally signed the settlement.

So I don't know if she agreed to that stipulation. I don't know if that was scratched from the record. I don't know. lives in Adriana's old house like he's already got a house you worry about that down the line just be dumb with it like this is the fucking thing that bothers me the most you you have a chance to just move on and be done with all of this we've heard about it nonstop with you that's been your only thing this year and you're talking to jody's ear off about it you're talking all your friends you're talking to the fucking viewers about it constantly we're so tired of it i know that your friends are tired

of it because they've brought it up a million times jody has to be tired of it but look he loves you for you I guess I don't really understand what's going on there I mean she's put him through fucking hell with all of this and he's still around having reactions to it

yeah so he's getting to the point where he's done with it you have a chance now to finally move on and I don't know because I kind of go back and forth is she so fucked up psychologically from Lenny

that even him doing this she just thinks that he's trying to pull one over on her and that she's going to have to worry about something down the line and he's going to circle back and this isn't the end of it so she doesn't feel like

she's finally done with it probably or is this the only thing that she has going on in her life probably and she's afraid to leave that behind because she does not know what her life looks like after this as you like to say both can be true yeah i think that they're and rightfully so and i don't want to knock her where it's not due like yeah i'm sure there is always going to be an air to it where it's like i don't trust this man like he put me through the fucking ringer for the past year and a half he cheated on me he left me for this model all of these different things absolutely and i'm not going take that away from her i'm sure that will always be present and that sucks to deal with that i also

do think and that's why she gets so upset about finally signing the settlement i don't think that it's necessarily because my marriage is now officially over like it's been done that didn't sit with me i was like i don't know if that's it i think more so it's like what do i talk about now like what do i do now this is over and i think that her reactions throughout the boat scene are kind of dealing with that i don't like you would think that at the end of it she'd be like fuck yeah like thank god right got that money this is over with i can take a much weight off me yeah i think that i'm not going to again take away from like yeah you're officially saying goodbye to the marriage like this is the there is going to be some grieving involved but the way that she responds to everybody

in the group when we get to the gondola ride in a minute that's where i'm like what the fuck's your problem like how can you not see they're trying to be on your team you're just being an asshole that's where i get frustrated the whole thing but she's getting kind of kind of sick in the van, and this seems like sound science to me, because Larsa says spread your legs, or open your legs, because the oxygen will flow better. And look, we don't have vaginas. I'm pretty sure that's how they work, right? Airflow. Yeah, that's just, that's just science. Uh-huh. Yeah, we get it. You get it. We get it. Yeah. We understand. Totally. That's how they work. Dudes on science. Yep. Dudes on female anatomy. We know. We know. We know.

But that takes us to the gondola ride, and we got an Anaconda reference, which made me so happy. Very excited about that. Oh, it's such a... Still see John Voight's face just gets squeezed out. His fucking accent in that movie. Oh, it's so good. If you haven't watched Anaconda, go watch it. It is one of the worst best movies of, or best worst movies of all time.

I can watch it tonight. There's a scene in the movie where there's a waterfall scene. The waterfall's in reverse. It's going up because some editor fucked it up. I'm a big fan of you telling me this. You know that I know that. I'm telling our audience that, I know, so than anything.

You're looking at me. Who am I supposed to talk to? Who the fuck am I supposed to talk to? You look at the microphone when you're talking to the audience. That's dumb. What do you mean? Ugh, God damn it. We're on the gondola ride.

There's a camera over there. Talk to YouTube. You're not supposed to look at the camera. They told us that it watch what happens live. Oh. All right. Throwing around names now, are we? Yeah, I'm name dropping now.

Andy Cohen told me not to look at the camera, motherfucker. You didn't tell me. that. But anyway, we're on the gondola. And Lisa still doesn't feel good. She feels like she lost someone. And this is where I'm like, all right, this is bullshit now. Gertie's on the boat with you. Alexia's trying to share this experience. This is a healing trip. The whole point of this is healing. You're now making it about you. This is the least problem, like the smallest problem that we have in the group. You just settled. Is there ever a non-healing trip? Like, do they ever just go on a trip to have some fun? That's a good point. I've never seen that they're always healing some

shit that's a really good point well maybe it's because there's always shit the heel you know but i think that it's it's just really selfish in this moment for her to like i'm sick i'm not feeling good bring the attention back to me help me help me help me it's like and selfish of her to do that every single time that she's done it i know but there's so many more things and like i get it like you're going through this but you want so much sympathy and it's okay to want sympathy from your friends if you do it in the right way but you're not like you don't see gertie over there breaking down every fucking chance that she gets. She's really going through it.

She's trying to stay strong. I don't want to compare the two things because I don't want to downsize what Lisa's going through and what she's been going through, but she's going about it the wrong way where she has no sympathy for anybody else because she's going through something. We've seen her disregard Gertie when they were over at Marisol's and she's like, oh, everyone's outside comforting or she's staying. I really know how to clear a room.

Like, fuck you. Yeah, dude. Like you do. This boat, if they could get off the boat, they would have gotten off the boat when you started talking about that. They would have rather gone to an island that we're going to talk about. Oh, I can't wait to talk about that island, but... Goodbye, summer movies, hello fall.

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You should be able to talk to your partner about anything for sure. I'm not saying that she shouldn't be able to say, hey, this really upset me today with Lenny, but she was crying about something and he didn't comfort her because he said, you're crying over Lenny. It's been a year. We are a year removed from this. Like, I need attention. I need us. Like, you need to take care of me sometimes, too.

that's where you cross that boundary of, yeah, it's healthy to discuss your issues. But if you're playing this sympathy card, that's all she wants. She wants to be the hurt puppy in the corner. And that's what she asks for every time she does it this way. If she went about it a different way, it's a different story, right? But she doesn't. And now it's affecting your current relationship. And we've said it before.

This is going to be an interesting relationship to watch when the lenny shit goes away because this whole relationship is based on him supporting her through it. and nothing else. We don't hear about anything else. They don't talk about anything else. She definitely doesn't talk about anything else to him. Every time we see her texting him or calling him, it's about Lenny. So it's going to be interesting to watch the fallout when he's like, hey, now you get to get to know me a little bit.

What's that going to look like? I have no idea. We don't know enough about Jody to be able to make an educated decision on that one. Because every time that he's on screen, it's just her talking about Lenny. Or him talking about Lenny. He talked to the realtor about Lenny. like that's too much it's the the entire basis of their relationship is about Lenny 1,000% but then this is where she could take a note from Gertie because like Gertie goes

I had to eat a huge piece of humble pie during all this because you know I've always provided for myself but going through all this Russell has really stepped up and I'm relying on him now and blah blah blah if Gertie who's going through fucking cancer can have self awareness in a moment and add to a conversation and be like but hey I learned a lot from this then Lisa take note take note what has this taught you how can you be better from this instead of woe is me woe is me lenny left me even did it in a worse way which i couldn't have imagined anybody doing it any worse than this Lisa says i am so in love like you're so lucky to have the marriage the way that you have it and have somebody to wait on you and help you out

and really just love you i don't have that anymore yeah i never really had that now that i'm looking back. Like, what the fuck? How did you, you complimented her, leaned in. Everybody's like, okay, good. You're starting to share a little bit. You're starting to lean into what Gertie's going through and say things of support to her. And then you bring them in and pull them right back out when you go right back to the Lenny of it all. No one cares. She has cancer. Like, they should be sitting here. One, comforting Gertie, whatever she needs it. And two, celebrating the fact that you finally got this. You're finally through the woods. You're finally about the side. an agreement and be done with all of this, and maybe we'll get the Lisa that we like back.

No, you're still harping on this. Like, I just don't understand it. You have this opportunity to move on, and you're not taking it. Not only you're not taking it, but now you're downgrading somebody who's really going through something that could really use your support just to get some sort of reflection back on you. I just, it doesn't make any sense. Just everything that she does is so fucking backwards. Yep, 100%.

But we get on to the boat ride itself. I love that everyone is so baffled by the fact that this man is pushing them with, I don't know what you call those, an oar, I guess, the gondola stick. They're flabbergasted. Like, there's no engine on this boat. It's like, no, he's got it. And he's doing fine. But then everyone's panicking.

Like, his face is getting so red, blah, blah. This is his job. I'm sure he's done this before. I appreciate the concern. But my man's got it. He's got it under control. He doesn't need Lisa helping him out in the high heels. And that's where I'm, this is the one.

moment I'm like fuck I think she's really like not well because she starts acting out like getting up and doing that I was like that's weird and even the girls in the boat like their reactions to are kind of like this feels like she feels off and but don't worry because we get amelio to save the day he facetimes adriana and he's just asking if they're getting ready for the show and you brought this up previously this is starting to sell me on it more you think that he wants to get romantically involved with Adriana? Oh, yeah. You think that that's a big part of this? The whole reason. I don't want to say it's the whole reason because she is a great performer. You can't say, even Alexia says she is. Alexia hates her.

Miami's hot, hot, hot, hot fire is a great song. It's not a fucking great song. Is it on on fire? You don't even know what it's called. I don't have to. I don't know the words to a lot of songs I like. I still bopped to him. All right?

You Adriana hater? Hey, hey, hey, I am an Adriana hater. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Triana, why don't you settle down? I'll wear that as a badge of honor. But it is nice, I will say, to see everyone in the group at least be supportive of that moment because even if you don't like her or don't like the music career, it's a big deal. And if Alexia of all people can put her differences aside and be like, you know what, good for her. At least Adriana has something.

I still feel bad for her. You're like so over it that you don't. Like, I still feel bad for this woman who seems to be very lonely and is trying to find something in her life. And she found it. And you can't even be happy for her. If her storyline wasn't, look at me, I'm so lonely, then maybe I would feel differently. All right. I'm just saying.

But this is where shit pops off. Because Larsa, who once again, great, great episode, if she did more of this, I think she'd be more likable. Because what was nice about this is it still has that Larsanist to it where it's like, but it was a good point. Yeah. Because she's like, Jody needs a break. Like, you need to leave him alone.

And don't fuck this up because if you lose him, you're going to regret it. yeah yeah totally nail in the head is it a little harsh yeah guess who needs to hear it Lisa guess who doesn't take it very well Lisa she's being a baby she's beat she says to her I don't know who would put up with your shit you're needy like a baby facts these are all facts someone had to say it

and I'm glad it was Larson I'm it's even funnier because she does this better than anybody she can say a very mean thing like it's totally normal and it comes out of left like it came out of nowhere like things were okay on the boat at that point

and then it's just like yeah you really you really need to not fuck this up or you're gonna lose them because you're a baby like who would put up with this shit right guys? I'd love that because it catches Lisa

off guard too and Lisa just comes back with an all-time insult right back you're a bully you know what that did to Larsa? Nothing.

Zero. Zero effect. It did not land. She didn't smile she didn't do anything She's like, what, what are you saying? I don't give a shit. I'm trying to help you with my Larson away.

Yeah. And you don't realize that you think I'm being mean. Whatever. I don't care. I tried. You're going to lose Jody if you don't figure this shit out. But, hey, I did my best. Hey, look at the dogs.

Look at, oh, boy. Oh, boy. Well, let's get to the house that Lisa points out first before we go to the dogs. The whole thing sucked. The whole thing sucked so hard. It was just back-to-back, terrible, terrible moves with Lisa pointing out what looked like a, A house with, you know, there's... Look, it's a house that's built with the materials available to them. Like, it's a house that you would see in a lot of countries that aren't the U.S., and that's fine.

A lot of people grow up that way. I played with a lot of guys in professional baseball that grew up the same way. Like, they showed me pictures of their homes. The biggest and most important takeaway, and I'm glad that Kiki brought it up, that house does not imply a bad upbringing. That house does not imply negative things. You don't know anything about the people that live there, what they do, what their jobs are, what their life is like. And Kiki says, this is how I grew up in Haiti. This is how my parents grew up.

My mom, my grandmother, blah, blah, blah. It's just a different way to live and to say we should be so grateful for what we have because we could be living like that. And then these three dogs, who were they a little dirty? Yeah, because they're outdoor dogs. They weren't like in shambles. And by the way, they were all clearly well fed. They're healthy dogs. They're popping around.

fine they don't need your curious as to what the fucking loud noise is on the boat like who are you and why are you throwing food and this poor man pushing the boat along is like don't no don't do that nope but I can't imagine I would be fucking

livid if I came home and some asshole was throwing food at Louis I think what are you doing why are you doing that? Like just because they live outside in a house that you're not familiar with does not mean that they're like these poor hungry

unfed dogs and this is what drives me nuts I'm glad Kiki's on this show to shed some light on and it's like just assuming that their life is terrible and that whoever lives in that house's life is terrible because you don't understand this way of life is such a privileged fucked up way to think and you don't need to go oh woe is them

they could be super happy they're probably happier than you Lisa I promise you that that drove me nuts and I'm so glad that Kiki put her in her place, but then Lisa stands up. And this is what I love about Kiki, and we've talked about this a lot, actually, recently. If you get in somebody's face, if you continuously ask for it, if you're saying, drag me, if you're saying, I'm going to get in your face, I'm going to stand up. And Kiki's telling you, don't do that, because for where I come from, that implies something.

You're going to get me up, and things are going to get nasty. We grew up around Philly. Like, that's a thing. If you stand up and get in someone's face, you will get punched in the face. Yep. We know that. So we don't do it. That is a very important point.

And her reaction, when she fucking soft tosses, she barely lobbed that juice box at her. Why didn't she even get that juice box? I don't know. That's what Marisol said. I have no idea. No fucking idea where she pulled that thing out. I didn't know. They had juice boxes.

No idea. Yeah, but she finds a juice box, which, again. But that's also why I love Kiki. One, she's going to put somebody in their place. And look, she doesn't have a lot of screen. she doesn't do a lot as far as, and we want more of this, more personal stories. When people are doing dumb

shit, she just says, you're doing dumb shit immediately. And I love that. And the other thing is she probably also had maybe some McDonald's tucked away somewhere. She loves that shit. She's always got like a Big Mac or something, like hanging out. It's a Wopper. She had a Wopper. She's got some sort of burger hanging out. Which is that, that's the one

knock I have to make on Kiki. Like who eats, Burger King sucks. Yeah, Burger King is definitely the lowest of the fast food chains. What's your top? Top? Like, national. Like, we need to take out, like, Chick-Fillay and, like, all this. And, like, what a burger and in and out.

Wendy's? I think Wendy's is the best best. Like, national burger. Yeah, I think Wendy's is probably the best. Yeah, it's up there. Anyway, back to it. Yeah, yeah, back to that. But, yeah, the soft toss of a juice box.

And I think Kiki knew that this was going to set her off even more. I don't know exactly what she would have imagined was going to happen because Lisa was already completely off their fucking rocker, just going after anybody who said a word or breathed in me. direction of Lisa. Tossing a juice box, you know, what are you going to do? But at the same time, you're on a gondola. There's nowhere to go. You got to deal with this shit now. So I love that she did that. I do too. Because who cares if Lisa keeps going? Lisa is already looking like the crazy one. Let's get it all out now. Let me toss a little juice box at you and let's see how

fucking far you're willing to take this. And I love that move from Kiki. I do too. But again, you're telling her to shut the fuck up. You're standing up. You are becoming the aggressor. She retaliates, not harshly. She flipped the juice box at you. And then you're going to say she assaulted you. Assaulted you. Yep. Assaulted, which Marisol goes to a confession.

I was like, oh, my God, a juice box. Like, God forbid, rightfully so. Quit throwing the word of salt out there. No one's buying it. You started this altercation. If you don't want to, like, there needs to be a PSA to Bravo Lebs. If you don't want the smoke, don't ask for it. Hi, I'm here to tell you about good morning night fail.

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Just stop saying assault Assault. Assault needs to be stricken from the record Because you weren't assaulted You didn't even get hit by the juice box And she's so stuck on Don't do anything at me Then don't get in her face You brought this upon yourself

And Kiki I thought was very reserved I think this could have went way worse And she was just like pretty much much like this is ridiculous. Lisa's not going to do anything. She's just going to get up. She's going to scream. She's going to yell.

And then she's going to tie herself out or she's just going to start bawling. Yeah. And we've, like we have noticed and we've pointed out, Lisa is very clearly not in her right mind. We know this. It's, it is what it is. It's an absolute fact. But it doesn't give you the right to act like this, especially to your friends, especially when other things are going on.

So yeah, Kiki sitting back realizing Lisa is not going to do shit, let's just fucking poke the bear. Yeah, why not? What's the worst that could happen? She's going to yell a little bit more. Oh, well, who cares? She's going to yell a little bit more. And the best part is she's like, well, because she said shut the fuck up a bunch of times.

And Alexia, out of nowhere, it was great. She goes, well, then we can tell you to shut the fuck up. And it's like, yeah, do it. About all of it. Tell her to shut the fuck up and stop this. Love of God. And then they try to, like, kumbaya it at the end. And, like, everyone holds hands.

Let's say a little prayer. Adriana literally brings a hurricane with her prayer because it was so bad. But Lisa can't even. and swallow her pride. She is rage texting like a motherfucker. She's sitting there firing off text to Jody, I'm sure. You're not going to believe it. Kiki threw a juice

box and it hit me in the head and I think I have a concussion now because she assaulted me with a juice box and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She does herself no favors and I think that that's the most frustrating part about it. She has no awareness. No awareness, and we hate that. We hate this lack of self-awareness is a big faux paw around here,

but the biggest thing with her, man. And we've talked about it in the past. This should have been the easiest fucking two years for her. Lenny sucks. He's dragging you through this awful divorce. He's taking advantage of the kids. He's kicking you out of your house. You have a new boyfriend.

Frame it differently. Frame it differently. You have friends that are willing to support you. All you have to say to them is, Let's go out and blow off some steam. I've had a shit week. There's a lot going on. I wouldn't care if you keep talking about the court proceedings and everything else is going on.

If you were to go out with your friends and try to blow off some steam and have some fun and not talk about it constantly. Then we'll give you a little bit of grace because, look, we know you're going through a ton of shit. Instead, you made the whole thing about you and you're the one, you are, that's the funny thing in all of this, and the lenity of it all, you're the victim. You were cheated on, you got kicked out of your house. Your husband clearly doesn't care about your fucking kids. you've found a new boyfriend. You have turned from the victim into a perpetrator. Because we, you didn't have, like, it's impossible to do.

It's the weirdest route I've ever seen. It's so hard to do. No one feels bad for you anymore. You have put down the middle class. You've put down people that live in Mexico. You have clearly shown that you have no awareness of anybody but yourself. You don't care about your friends. You don't care about anybody.

All you care about is yourself. And it is really tough to watch. and I don't want to watch it anymore. No. I want her to take like a leave of absence from the show after Mexico. Just go away for a bit. I don't want to see you. I'm done with you.

You phrased it perfectly. It's wild that it took that much of a drastic turn. It was such a layup. It was so easy. And she botched the whole thing. But the last thing we need to talk about and it took a turn because it hit Julia in a different way. It was actually really sad when she was reacting to what I was excited to see because I've seen

this in, you know, I like to get in my TikTok rabbit holes. Oh, yeah. So as soon as I saw that one man doll, it wasn't even a doll doll. It was like that, it looked like a dude hanging from a tree. I was like, no fucking way. I was like, are they about to go to the island of the dolls? And then it goes further, and I see so. I was like, yes, they're at the island of the dolls.

I've known about this place for so long. Some dude that lived in Mexico City relocated to the, he lived on this island. And he would just, because a girl passed away, she drowned right next to it. He started in, like, memoriam hanging up dolls all over the island. And it's very creepy. It's a terrifying sight.

He said he had a dream about it. Is that what it was? About her not having anything to play with or something along those lines. So then he left the doll out for her to play with. But then it got crazy and he put, like, hundreds of people. It's a horror. Do you think it's still him? Do you think people go by, like, locals go by and just hang, like, new dolls out there?

I don't know if he's still with us, but I'm pretty sure. I think they said that, yeah. Yeah, people definitely have added their own dolls to that collection. It's a terrifying site, but it's so fascinating. Unfortunately, Julia sees it, and as we know, lost her son, and this destroys her. And the whole thing gets chaotic at the end. Now, Gertie's crying, she's crying. Everyone's getting really emotional, and we're going to see a play out next week.

But all in all, I liked this episode, like I said, because of the good moments. I thought that watching Gertie and the group come together was an amazing moment. I thought that learning more about Julia and hearing her side of things and how open she is, I thought that was really strong of her. And I thought it was really, really interesting to learn about the negatives, Lisa, for sure. The negatives vastly outweigh the positives. But we also got a good Larsa episode, which we have not gotten. So that's a big positive.

Yeah. All right. So I'm just saying, I hear you, but I still like this episode a lot. But let's finish this bad boy up with some questions. Up first, we got... From, oh, boy, I got to read this one. And I'm not making fun of you, Pallick City. But I'm going to explain something to you.

Why do you think Larson did a 360 on Gertie out of nowhere? Palix? it's a fair thing to say. I know what you're trying to say. She did a 180. A 360 would be back in the same place. You'd be facing the same direction. But I get what you're saying. And I think that, again, like we talked about, this is because I do think that Larda, I can't say that. I do think that Larsa has always cared. I don't think that she doesn't give a shit about Gertie and what she's going through. I think that she is so anti-being wrong or being embarrassed that she doesn't want to admit to anything.

I think that was the hold-up, but I think that in this moment where they're in this beautiful church and it's such an overwhelming emotional moment, that even Larsa's like, yeah, I'm going to put the bullshit aside. Like, I got you back. I'm here. This is serious and I love you. Like, I think that the moment outweighed any stupid feelings that they have. Yeah, I think that's a really good point. I've got, uh, there's two questions here from Max June and Mary had a little. Okay.

Both pretty much asked the same question. Is Lisa a Karen? I want to say first off, that is a derogatory term. Yeah, we did. It has to read. We don't call people Karen's around here. But I'll answer your question. Yeah, absolutely.

Yes, a thousand fucking percent. She is the type of person that if somebody is maybe walking a dog close to her lawn, she'll run outside. Yeah. If there's children going around, looking for somewhere to maybe play a little football, ball on some grass, and it happens to be on the sidewalk next to her house. She calls the police. She will go out and call the police. Yep. Yep. A thousand percent. No, she is the Karen. Yes. From Liv Tate. People are saying Larsa redeemed herself this episode. Do you all agree?

No. No. No, no, no, no, no. I don't think. She had a good episode. Yeah. It was a good app. Yeah, it was a good app. The entire last season was intolerable. Yeah. And most of the season was, too. Yeah. Don't give her too much credit. But hey, credit where credits do. Good episode. If she has two, three, four, now we can start talking about not even a redemption arc. There's no redeeming. We can talk about her taking a new stance in the group, but for now, it was a good episode. Ooh, I like this one from Melly J. Zero. How did you guys decide who would be the color commentator and who would be the play-by-play?

Oh, wow. This is just like how our banter's always been. Yeah, Steele just started talking about the episode and I just interjected. Yeah. It just happened. This is kind of just how we told. talk to each other in general anyway, so it kind of just fit naturally.

One more. Oh, this is a good one. From the Fishtown Bulls, which is an adult men's league baseball team in Fishtown, which I fucking love it there. They message us. There's like five dudes on the team that listen to us, like five official brav bros.

So what's up, boys? If you ever need a designated hit or just holler at me, I'll be down there. Yeah, you can't crouch anymore for catching. I think I could catch like half the game and then hit and then I wouldn't be able to walk for a week. Yeah, then you need a hip surgery immediately. Yeah, but if you need a designated hitter, you just let me know. But you can add three MLB players to Southern Hospitality.

Who do you choose and why is one branded Marsh? I mean, you can, there's Marsh, bone, like pretty much as Phillies. Let's do three Phillies. Marsh bone. Marsh bone. It's not too easy. You need to think of a better one. Stubbs.

Done. Boom. Yeah, easy. Yeah, that's a... Marsh Bowman Stubbs would be fucking... Stubbs would be reality TV gold. He would be. A thousand percent.

We need to talk to Brahma. Yeah, we'll talk to the Phillies when we get fucking invited for the podcast night. I want to put one more in there because we did international, I think, in the first episode. Yeah, we did. Sarah Yvonne 88 said,

not a question, but hi from Ireland. Hi. Hi. Hi. I was so happy to see you and watch what happens live. Hi, Sarah. Hi. Hi, Ireland.

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