Bros & Shows - Bobbing For Cucumbers and Micro-Aggressions (Southern Hospitality Full Recap)

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

Whats up Bros?? We're right back where we left off on our favorite show on TV with Girls and Gays night bobbing for cucumbers before G-Lilly decides to continue her rampage against Maddie and gets clocked for it. We did not see a mostly G-Lilly centric episode coming but, to be honest, we're grateful for it. We had a very powerful scene with her and a sobriety coach before moving back to Emmy's lack of well....being a normal human. A slightly slower episode for this show is still better than most of the other Bravo shows so we're all good! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So, like, we knew she was full of shit, but she's just racist, right? Dude, I think so. I don't know. I mean, I was trying to do it because I'm trying to not label somebody as racist, but she's making it really hard. She's making it really hard to not label her as racist. You don't have to. I'll do it. She's racist.

Yeah. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh, man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch.

Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I'm your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only shooter, Charleston Gooderman. Yeah, I knew we were going to struggle through that one.

That makes sense. It's a Sunday night. Yeah, it's a Sunday night. For those of you that watch March Madness, that was a fantastic game. I was actually exhausted going into this. And I'm like, I'm going to be like a walking, talking zombie, whatever the podcasting version of a zombie would be. I guess it's a talking zombie.

But that doesn't sound, that kind of sounds cool. Talking. Yeah, like a Zodcaster. I wasn't going there, but yeah, sure. Why did I? I was trying to combine words. I don't know why. I've always done that.

It's always like a kid. Something about it. I don't know. Maybe it's a defense mechanism. That just really gets me in the brain in the right way. That's how I deal with my trauma. I combine words. Yeah, I was exhausted all day.

They did a little Costco trip today and allergies are whooping my ass. And then Yukon hits a three-porter to kill Duke, which, you know, every time the Duke loses, I'm happy. So I'm back. I'm feeling good. And what a show to talk about. And this is, this episode was a little bit, you know, which we could expect. There's a little bit less happening. But every episode leading up to this has been action-packed.

So I'm okay with the break. I'm cool with a little break. We can just have a little fun here. And I think this one's important because I was concerned that we were going to have to wait until the reunion, until everybody watches the show back to realize that Emmys full of shit. That happened one, one episode later. We didn't have to wait that long. So it was kind of a question.

Why is she telling me? people like that's because she's that i know yeah it's got to be stupidity because we talked about it last week i'm like you know there are cameras in there why are you doing this and telling your sister all these things lo and behold she got off that call with her sister and she just called uh justin she's like hey buddy what's going on uh let me tell you all of the things that i'm full of shit about and uh you're not going to tell anybody right yeah yeah we're cool we've known each for a couple of weeks. She seems to have this idea that just because she's made progress with people,

it's like, oh, it's back to normal now. Now I can tell people everything. Now I have friends again. So I'm just going to vent to you about all of this bullshit that Brad said to me. Again, if you like rewind it, go back to what happened, not just the night of, but what they were upset about, the night of in the hotel, any normal person with the brain would understand why Brad's upset. Any normal person with a brain would actually feel bad.

And even a bad person with a brain would fake it consistently, not blow themselves up. That must have been a day later because it's a week later for us. It might have been a day or two after they got back. But yeah, I don't know. There's just, she always had this righteous air about her where it's almost like, all right, the pageantry of doing the apology and getting back with. everybody else. It's over. I crushed that shit. I hyperventilated and everybody believed it. I cried. We're good. I hit all of my important

points that I made to myself in the car on the ride over. I'm like, all right, I'm going to talk to them about it. We're going to open up a little bit. As soon as I get pressed, I'm going to start crying. They're going to believe that I'm really sad about this. I'm going to hyperventilate. I'm going to call Brad's scary, do another microaggression, argue, arguably these are macro aggressions now because it's so blatantly obvious that I'm being racist. Yes. Is that what a macroaggression is? I was thinking that too. It has to, that has to make sense. Yeah, I'm with you on that.

I never know, and I think I've just kind of fully accepted it. I never know what Emmy's thinking, what she's going on about. She's what she's trying to do because it's too hard to figure it out. I can't put myself in her brain. I don't think we want to, right, for so many reasons. Like, I'm good, not understanding. That's one person that I'm not racking my brain trying to figure out. Like usually, you know me. I've been doing pretzels in my brain for years over Kyle Richards. My spare time is spent trying to figure out that puzzle. And everybody else on Bravo, I spend way too much time trying to psychoanalyze. No, I mean, I do not, I do not waste my time on that one.

Yeah, that's probably probably for the better. I think her brain is, it's like a white only club. No, and you've got a little Native American in you. So she's like, I don't know. What do you get out of here? It's better for everybody if you leave. Exactly. Yeah, my red skin.

I'm not allowed in her head. Oh, Jesus. Well. Commanders, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right, right, right. Right.

But anyway, let's get it. I have actually Native American, everybody. So he is. I wouldn't have said that. I wanted to clarify that one. Yeah, I want to make sure I clarify that. But anyway, yeah, no, we're not, we're not over here making Native American jokes. I'm genuinely a card carrying member, citizen of the pot of audio meat nation.

What's up? But let's get into this episode. Like I said, I mean, yeah, it wasn't action-packed, but a lot of important things happen. There's a lot of filler in between some of the big moments. But we start out at the end of the party over at Molly's house. And love the move by Michaels. You know what? This is girls that we're supposed to be having fun.

I'm just going to bob for cucumbers that are supposed to be penises. Lo and behold, gentlemen, you shouldn't have. put them down your pants before we started bobbing for these things? My question is, are they in water or are they in vinegar? Like, are they trying to pickle those cucumbers? Is that a real question?

Yeah. What the fuck do you think? What do you think they're bobbing in vinegar? Why would they? No, they're not trying to pickle them? I don't know. That's where your brain went? Well, you know what I'm thinking about is like when you go, and I don't even know if they have this anymore, you know, like delis, they

used to have a big barrel with that. They had it at the market down the street. Yeah, I just love that. But I used to think how fun it would be to bob for the cucumber, I guess the pickle at that point, to bob for a pickle in there. And then I had to remember, oh, if there's vinegar in here, I don't want to go bobbing for that, I'll probably die. I'll probably choke on the vinegar and die. So then when I see this big case of cucumbers walking in with liquid, immediately I think it's vinegar. So, I don't know.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was just water. I don't think they would punish themselves by bobbing for vinegar. We used to have ammonia towels when I played baseball. It was awesome. We had a big jug, like that gatorade, like 30 gallon John. And we'd fill it with ice water. Then they pour ammonia into it. They put towels in it.

And when I played in Florida, you would take an ammonia towel and put it over your face. You go, oh, my God, does that wake you up? It looks like smelling salts. Yeah, but just like times 10. Yeah, it was awesome. I'm pretty sure I took years off my brain. But, yeah, it's in a World War, World War, You get like gassed.

Yeah, it's great. Mustard gas. Yep, totally. So anyway, back to, you really threw me with the vinegar thing. But the game we're playing was Bob or answer. And the only thing that really comes out of this is Jordan. When's the last time you buoyed Justin and it was like days ago? And it comes up that Mia was supposed to go on a date with him.

Now, Mia rain checked the date, but Mia has some feel. She understands how things work. So instead of saying that, she goes, oh no, I canceled on the date, not really into that guy. Don't worry about it, Jordan. But it does show you what this situation is with Jordan and Justin. Because from Justin's standpoint, it's like, she's a friend. We hang out and have sex sometimes.

To Jordan, she's pining over this guy. And she literally says to him, you can do whatever you want. And you can hear the pain in her voice when she says that. You can do whatever you want. Please don't bang me. Like for the love of God. Yeah. Don't hook up with Mia.

And he's like, what? She says, please don't hook up with any of my friends. And then he finds a little bit of a loophole because Mia even says in her confessional, I'm not your friends. We don't know each other. I've known you for a couple of weeks. What am I supposed to do with this? I don't owe this to you, which I actually appreciate because we say that all the time.

People have that like weird high standard. It's like, hey, you shouldn't be hooking up with her. She's my friend. You guys aren't friends. You guys have never been friends. So let's not do that. But in Justin's eyes, he's. Like, I'm still going to do it.

I'm still going to shoot my shot and see what happens. And I would take me over Jordan. But, yeah, there's a comfort in having Jordan there. Jordan's face during this whole conversation was very funny. Because people are looking at her like, uh, yeah. But at the same time and when we get the little clip of the two of them talking, it's like, you know what you're doing. You signed up for this.

This is exactly what you're going to face. This is exactly what's going to happen. And it's Charleston. It's a very small city. Everybody hooks up with everybody. you're going to eventually find somebody else that Justin's hooking up with while you guys are hooking up. It's just, it's bound to happen at some point. Yeah.

And, you know, Justin admittedly likes to play the field a little bit. So, you know, that's a risk that you run. But unfortunately, I did, I did feel bad for her. She looked really upset. And that's why I like TJ in moments like this, because he never pulls punches. And it's almost like he can't help himself but to say things. He's like, I mean, you can't get upset. It's like, ah, you're right.

But like, maybe not now. Just give her a sec. Let her get back to neutral here. But this was kind of surprised, not surprising. I guess I was surprised at the reasoning, which does make sense, but also doesn't make sense. But Emmy comes up and they ask Lake, are you on Team Brad or Team Emmy? Well, I'm Team Emmy. This is based on the little fling that her and Brad had last year.

They hooked up and then, you know, she got full. friend zone and they made out again. It was kind of this wishy-washy situation, which I understand. I'm not saying that you have to be cool with Brad. I'm not saying if I like Brad. You can have something against Brad at this point. I was more expecting like a neutral, I guess, where it's like I don't really, I'm friends with Emmy now. I'm not and I don't like Brad. So I'm just out of it because I expected it have more of a stance on this whole thing. And it sounds like she's supporting Emmy simply because she doesn't like Brad. And we'll get into the specifics of it all. I want to

save that for when she talks to Brad later because her conversation with Michaels, I think she was, it came off more like she was so surprised that Brad would think that, that she got a little defensive. But I don't think it was, I don't think she was defending anything in particular. I think it was just like, holy shit. Wait, what? Brad thinks that. I think the conversation she has with Brad really paints the whole situation completely. So I'm going to save it for that. But yeah. And I think in this instant with everybody at that party, it wasn't about the. conversation that we have with Michaels and Brad later. This was simply all of us are seeing how erratic Emmy is.

All of us are seeing her for who she is. Are you really picking her side? Like they're still trying to figure out how they're friends, which we talked about in the last episode. She looked at her horoscope on her phone and decided, well, maybe I'll give this girl a shot. And she decided to be friends with her. So that's fine.

I mean, be friends with whoever you want to. You're making the wrong decision because we're all watching, I mean, like she can't be a good friend and she isn't a good friend. But like still a girl and woman. And so if she has some sort of similarities with Emmy, she sees some likeability in there, then go for it. Like you don't really have to defriend,

or defriends. Wow. I was going to say defend friendship, but the friendship. Defrenship. Yeah, you don't have to do friendship, you know? You don't have to. But no.

Yeah, so we do find out that she is on team Emmy. So the last thing at this little shindig is grace Lily is not going to bob for cucumbers because that's not appropriate. The only person I get on my knees for is God. I was like, oh, I didn't know you were religious. We're going to learn something about Grace, which makes a lot of things kind of make a lot more sense. Things kind of line up.

And we'll discuss that very shortly. But yeah, I took it as, and like this makes sense to me. Grace Lilly is always, I mean, look at how she responded to her mugshot. She was posting bottling pictures. She thought that this was a full-blower. party. She got a full face of makeup. Maybe she just didn't want to buy for that. And she just came up with an excuse. I'm okay with that. That's fine by me. When she turns it and Maddie gets up there,

this was just fucking funny. I'm sorry. But I know she had a hard on for Maddie, which is a very funny way of saying this. I understand that she had that. But asking the last, not did you or have you, when's the last time that you fucked Joe in the ass? When's the last time that you pegged him? That's funny. It's objectively very funny to ask anybody that. Because it's, It's not really that deep and it might be deep with Grace Lily, but it is really funny to watch Maddie's face like, uh, I don't,

what am I supposed to do with all this? But in the grand scheme of the whole party, Grace Lily has been going after Maddie since the second they got there before they even got there because she didn't tell her about the pajama party. So this makes sense. Everybody else's reaction like, what the fuck is wrong with you? What are you doing here?

And I think that the reason that one has a little more stank on it is because, obviously the whole thing with TJ and Joe and then Emmy going on a podcast and calling TJ a predator adds a whole down the layer to this thing. So it's bringing back. It's not just a one-off like, oh yeah, you you peg and Joe. It's more like. Yeah, it started as a joke of like you wear the pants of the relationship so you must be pegging him. And then it devolved into everything else.

And it's like, oh, God, that's the angle you were going for. Come on. Brutal, especially considering your in the doghouse and you just dug yourself a lot. And T.J's there, like right in front of you. I know. I know. And I think the one thing that I've gathered from people's reactions, they're just unfaced at this point almost.

It's like, yeah. Yeah. What the fuck is going on? And I think a lot of people must be maybe not privy to what's going on with her, but maybe suspicions or something like that where they kind of know what's going on with her. But Mia, and I'm glad she did this because her and Mad, aren't even that tight. Let's not forget last week, they weren't even friends again because of the whole thing with the pushing over of the poster board and the text message and blah, blah, blah,

Mia is the one that jumps up and goes scorched earth on G. Lilly. And rightfully so, like everything she said, 100% true. I think it kind of snaps Maddie out of it a little bit. And especially considering what we're going to learn about G. Lily, Maddie's in a very, very precarious position, especially as somebody in recovery. So obviously there's a lot more layers to their friendship and why she's sticking around. But that doesn't mean that you're not allowed to check her or that Mia's not allowed to jump in and go, that's fucking ridiculous. You know what?

Get the hell out of here. And Maddie's going through everything in her head. She's like, well, man, you know, she embarrassed me last year in Vegas. She embarrassed me this time. She embarrassed me that time. And it is really embarrassing to watch because it's like, dude. She steamrolls you all the time. And then you defend her.

You defend her steamrolling you to other people. And again, the last time I'll say it, there's a reason for that that we learned. And that makes so much more sense now. And it's a bummer. Yeah, it really does. And in this moment, we're thinking like, all right, yeah, we've all been in that weird toxic friendship where you see the good in somebody or they were good at one point. So you're kind of holding on to that and you're just letting things go. But, I mean, I'm okay with it.

And I'm happy again, like you said, when, me as snaps, Maddie immediately wakes up like, oh, good, okay. Because we've seen Maddie try to push back on, on G. Lily, whenever she does something, it never ends well because Gilioli just throws her right back into her face. So what's the point if you're Maddie? You're almost kind of like demoralized. Like what's the point in me even trying? I don't even need to say anything to her.

But now in that moment, and again, knowing where me and Maddie are where they were last week, it shows like, okay, everybody else sees this. Everybody else understands. We're all having conversations about how she's not a good friend. we just had this whole like a very compact episode in one party where g lily went after mattie the entire time everybody's exhausted by it maddie's clearly just she's phased but she's not going to fight back because there's no point somebody else steps up to the plate and just knocks it out of the park and she says my favorite line and it's i've just heard it recently i don't know if it's been

around for a while but fuck-ass shit is is my favorite turn or phrase it's it lands so well because I know exactly what you mean when you say it. I'm like, yeah, that is some fuck-ass shit. Well, well said, Mia, agreed. Now, we get to Lake and her mom and they're FaceTiming. And obviously, we know a big part of Lake's storyline last season was her sexuality and coming out and being open about the fact that she is bisexual. She's into both men and women. She had, I'm not sure if it was a relationship, but she's very close with one of her best friends.

That was like her first experience with a woman. She made out with her best friend and they kind of have this ongoing situation friendship thing. I don't know. It's like she's like her comfort blanket almost. It's a very sweet situation we watched the last year. But by having her friend on the show and being strong enough to talk about it on the show, which we very much appreciated, she knew there was going to be some backlash and some questioning from her family because of who her family is.

They're obviously very wealthy. They've been in the area for a very long time, very well-known, well-renowned family. and very kind of traditional value. So she was pretty concerned about what was going to come from that and props to her yet again for knowing that going into last season and still standing her ground and sharing who she actually is. It takes a lot of strength. But apparently her dad has not really talked to her since this whole thing.

And the last text that she got from him was him saying, you're disrespectful, we'll have no respect for anyone and made her feel as though she killed somebody. Now, talking to mom, I didn't love it. I didn't love the responses. No, I felt like it was making excuses for dad. I felt like it wasn't really addressing issue.

You know your father. You know what he does. You know how he's like that. You know, he's not going to do it. That's that old timey shit. That's that old traditional marriage bullshit that we see all the time. And that's kind of where it is.

And it really just depends on how Lake's going to respond to it. I think she obviously, she's in it. So she identifies it. She understands what it is. She's going to feel some type of way about it. but it's just, you know, it sucks. There's no other way to put it.

Yeah, she handles everything like so well. I'll give her that. Like when shit's going on, she's a good way to like break things down and kind of stay level headed, especially in the moment. But I don't know what this means. And I will never say this to my children as long as I live because I don't understand what this means.

When you become an adult, you get to take, sorry, banana. When you become an adult, you get to dictate the type of relationship you want with your parents. And your parents get to dictate what kind of relationship they want with you. What? Some rich people shit. That's like wealthy people stuff. It was a weird combination of old-timey traditional with weird like new Gen Z terms. And I did not like it.

It rubbed me the wrong way. And I'm really against it. And if anybody ever says that fuck-ass shit to me, I'm going to be nice. Yeah. I was like, what? I can't imagine what my daughters would say. if I said, look, I get to dictate our relationship. Now that you're an adult, I have to figure out if I like you.

It's basically like a friend. Do I really want to be friends with you? Yeah, it's like if your friend has a baby and you're like, what do you mean you're going to hang out with your baby? You've only known them for like a week. What do you mean? Come to my birthday party. It's so weird.

I got, look, now that you're 18, I got to be honest. I never really liked you. You're kind of a loser. You've got some work to do, buddy. Yeah. And until that work is done, don't call me get out it was so weird that's such a weird thing to say so yeah that's i can't imagine honestly like trying to rationalize that as a 22 23 year old like her entire situation with

their family right now it's got to be so difficult so i don't know i feel for but let's get to mattie and joe because this is an important conversation and i do believe and hope I think it's rectified very shortly by G. Lilly, but initially I was a little like, ooh, because they're talking about the G. Lily situation. And Joe, actually, I thought made some very good points here. Nice job, Joey. But Maddie, let's slip what's going on and why she feels as though she can't leave G. Lily out on an island and go their separate ways for the time being. It turns out that G. Lily is battling substance abuse currently. And I'm not sure where she stands now. But when she said that, my first. reaction as somebody in recovery like oh no like that of you know better than that like you don't don't say that you're not supposed to say that like it's her decision whether or not she wants to share what she's going through not your decision i would like to believe since g lily talks about it shortly that it was discussed between the two of them that hey i'm going to talk about it and that she understood that both of them because if she just dropped that and i get that she's been

pushed i get that she's been wanted but that's a big thing to drop without her doing it herself. Yeah, no, it definitely is, and I understand where you're coming from. I mean, like, with you being in addiction, understand it. Like, looking at that, you're like, that's fucked up. I think for anybody else, it's immediately just like, yeah, G. Lilly's just been pushing her like crazy. I don't think, I mean, maybe they did have some conversations, but when G.

Lily starts and she's going through that with the sobriety coach, she says, I haven't talked to anybody about it. So I don't know if they have really talked about it. But Maddie's been through it herself, you know, in different ways, I'm sure. She can identify it. She knows exactly what G-Ly-Ly is going through. And that's why she has so much grace. That's why she allows her to do things and tries to help her here and there and whatever.

So I understand all of that. And that's kind of the full picture that we get for this episode. But I don't really have a problem with Maddie talking about it when G. Lily has actively pushed her to this point. Yeah. I mean, look, it's a fine line. I'm not cool with it if she wasn't aware. The reason I think that they did is because the time.

timing of it, the fact that Maddie says that and then we're talking, or G. Lily's talking about it and with a sobriety coach on camera. It could have been that where Maddie knew that she talked to her sobriety coach. So she's like, oh, she's talking about it. She could have already, like, maybe G. Lilly already had that conversation with him. That's what I mean. And then reported back to Maddie and said that. Yep. Right. So that that makes sense. I just, I don't, Maddie's been around the sobriety game too long to, to make that slip up. But again, Joey pointing out something that is important for anybody that is, you know, having something or somebody in their life dealing with this and you're not sure what to do.

When he says the selfless thing to do is to let her go and hopefully she'll change and she'll stop hurting the people she loves the most. And it's okay to accept that you don't have the energy, right? Like, that's very real. And this is like a little mini PSA. At a certain point, if your life as the sober person or the person not battling substance abuse is being affected to the point that it's it's messing with your home life it's messing with your job whatever it is okay to separate from that person going through addiction as hard as that is

as mean as that may sound sometimes it's the best thing you can do because when the person going through it sees that they don't have people around them anymore it will push them to change so i joey bottles very insightful brother well done i was very proud i was like hell yeah joey yeah let's not forget he was he was he was joey bibles that he was joey bottle so right he's got some wisdom to him yeah damn right well brad and justin are talking brad is still trying to move forward with emmy in this moment i'm going to talk to emmy later and uh justin's like well i'll be that's why because at the influencer event that they all went to in charleston brad walks in emmy's there solo he's like what's up emmy she's like hey brad like 20 minutes later

Will walks it. Brad walks by it's up, Bemi, cold shoulder because Will's there. Now she's not talking to him. In Brad's mind, I thought we were cool. If we're cool,

then you would say hi to me, regardless of whether or not Will is there. I think what that did is set off that little radar in his head. He's like, huh, if she's acting differently in front of Will, she's probably talking differently in front of Will, which means she's probably talking different to other people,

which means that might have been a bunch of bullshit. Thank God Justin's there because he's about to open up Pandora's box and be like, well, actually, dumb, dumb decided to call me probably the minute she got home from that party and tell me everything. Every single thing that she said to you was a fucking joke. And she's also going to do it in a way that borderline is another microaggression. Lo and behold, because she's going to say, I'm scared that he's going to ruin my. life. Yep. What? This man was your best friend. Yeah, you're scared that Brad is going to ruin your life. Like, you're ruining your own life on this show. You're doing all of these things. And the more that you change up your behavior and go and talk to somebody else and you completely change the tune of

whatever the hell you were just talking about, people are going to look at you differently. You start firing off microaggressions. You don't know the definition of a microaggression. You start firing those bad boys off. People are going to look at you differently. So you're doing it to yourself already hates Will. Will's already out anyway, so who the fuck cares? But you still have a chance here where you can be in that weird relationship

that we've seen a bunch where it's like, yeah, you know, my husband, my fiance, he just doesn't fuck with anybody here. But I'm still going to make an effort. I still have to see you guys a lot. We'll just leave those lives separate. That's okay.

I think everybody in the situation, it's actually, it's the best case scenario for all of us. But I think everybody in that situation who was friends with Will will accept that. They'll all look at that like, okay, cool. now it's not going to be awkward when you come to work.

It's not going to be awkward when we see you around Charleston. We don't fuck with that dude anymore, but you can still be cool with us. We're fine with that. That is actually best case scenario for everybody involved. But come to find out everything that you're saying to us is bullshit. So you're not even going that far. Yeah.

Yeah. Because I can't believe she says this. Like this is where I just, all I can think of is she's not that bright. Because why would you say to him? I learned that all I have to say is I'm sorry and I'll do better. and that's all they want to hear. That's because they have compassion and empathy, you sociopath.

That's because they want to believe that this person who they've had a close relationship with for years is not actually as fucked up as they think she is. That's leaving the door open that you can maybe crawl your way through and beg for friendship at some point. And you just slammed that door shut on your own hand and broke all of your fingers. That was so, it's insane. why do you think Justin's going to be loyal to you? What do you think your relationship is with this guy that you've known for three fucking weeks?

Like, hello? I think that was the craziest part is I understand. It doesn't make any sense, but I get you talking to your sister about it and like decompression from everything. The way you were going about it was ridiculous. But talking to Justin makes no sense to me. Like now you're going to the point of, yeah, I'm talking to my sister. That's my confidant. There's cameras here, but whatever.

You're talking to Justin who's on the. show and works with and is really cool with everybody else that you're sparring with. Why would you do this? And I can't even spin it into a way where I'm like, yeah, you know what? Maybe she's just trying to drum up more drama. Maybe she's just trying to throw a wrench in there. She's not.

She just simply isn't. Like whatever her behavior is right now, it doesn't make any sense to me. I think it's self-sabotage for like a cry for help. I think your subconscious is screaming, please somebody step in. I think we're past the cry for help, though. I don't there's no help to be given anymore. That's why I said her subconscious. Like the deep deep in her ice cold soul is yelling, please somebody step in.

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It is brighter on the other side. I promise you that. So I thought this was awesome. And I thought that this explains a lot of her behaviors, a lot of her wishy-washiness, holding people to a certain standard while she continues to trample on it. It really lines up a lot. And, you know, walking in, she's like, I realized I went too far.

I realized, by the way, this is like a general term. This is not her in this, like one moment where I realized I went too far this time. She says, I realized I went too far when I haven't heard from Maddie in a few days. Like this happens frequently. That's tough. But Maddie is the only one she says. So Maddie does know. She does clarify.

Maddie's the only one that knows what I'm going through with, right? or what's going on with me right now. And I know that I can't work on it by myself forever. So we meet Isaac. Isaac is a sobriety coach. Isaac is such a, like, that is what my sobriety coaches and counselors were like in Karen. Like it's a very, it's very funny to see. But I thought he did a great job.

And she was anxious. And it's the first time she's really talked to anybody about her struggles. And we find out she's been going through this for about two and a half, three years. and it's mainly ketamine from what we know, at least from what she said. And I think that by doing stuff like this, like for me, right, we watch Bravo fumble so much with the sobriety conversation. And it's something that has been very prevalent over the last two, three years. Like the last two years, especially, I can't seem to get away from this topic.

But they so frequently do such a bad job at highlighting recovery and sobriety and addiction in substance abuse. This, do more of this if people on the show are comfortable. Like, this helps. This shows people the process. It also allows Isaac to explain some things that a lot of people probably don't know. And it's like simple things. Like a lot of people are under this impression, myself included until I went through this,

that sobriety and recovery is like this straight path. Like, okay, I go to rehab, then I'm sober and I move on. It goes a lot of different ways. And some people do 12 stuff. some people do this, some people do that. So I just thought that overall, it's a great scene. If we're going to continue to have this topic pop up on shows, this is a great angle because this is helpful.

And it shows G. Lily probably in her best scene, in my opinion, because this is the most authentic, I think we've seen her. Yeah, it's the most authentic. It's the most vulnerable that we've seen her. It shows you where she is. It makes you understand why she does the things that she does when she lashes out when she's essentially crying for help.

And our big problem, and we have a huge problem on the show, whenever we get those life coaches, all those weird people. The big problem is always when we see those conversations, whether it's about sobriety or whatever it might be going on in somebody's life, it's always like a friend. It's like, oh, this is my best friend and life coach. It's like, okay, you're not going to get a real conversation. Isaac's at a facility.

She literally goes to the facility. She sets it all up. She's never met this man before. And she has a full open conversation. It takes her a little bit to get into it. But it's incredibly authentic. And I think that it hits home for a lot of people watching it. It's like, oh, okay, yeah, we did know that you were a little quirky.

We did know that you were a little weird. And you're going to do some random shit that's not going to make any sense. Come to find out when she talks about all of this, it's like, okay, boom, there you go. And now we understand what you're going through because you've shared. So you're going to get sympathy. You're going to get people having your back and understanding what you're going through. And it's going to paint all of your weird behaviors in a lot different light, where now you can look at it and be like, okay, you know what?

she's struggling. She's not really like it almost adds another layer to it where it's like, okay, yeah, she did lash out and she said some weird shit, but it's not that big of a deal because it could be much worse. Whereas anybody else, if we don't know that they're going through something like this, they say some shit that G-Lily says.

It's like, where the fuck did that come from? What are you doing? But when she says it, it's like, okay, we know that it's not like handling anybody with kid gloves or anything like that. It's literally,

we know now because you've shared with us what you're going through. We can have a better understanding of why you're doing the things that you're doing and will give you not necessarily a pass, but it's more of like a okay, yeah, we get it. It's not so much a pass as it's like they can recognize where she's at and either step in to try to help or pull back where it's like, okay, until you figure this out, like, I don't need to be around you. And also like the things that you've said may have come from a different place.

That doesn't mean she doesn't have to apologize and make amends for all of those things, but it at least gives people an understanding like you said, of where Gilly's at. And again, props to her for sharing this. I think he's getting her into a 30-day outpatient, which is she's going to go to the facility for 30-day straight. She's not staying at the facility.

And hopefully that works. And I would love if they allow, there's a lot of rules, obviously, in recovery. I don't know if they'll allow cameras. I would doubt it, highly doubt it. Probably not. Yeah. It seems like she's going to an actual facility.

Yeah, exactly. That bullshit, like, country club stuff that we might spend on the shows. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we didn't even get cameras there. We just had him doing his weird video diary from his friends there. She was watching cameras from there. Fucking weirdo.

Yeah, I don't know. But we'll see. I hope that at least we get to see some conversations with or me, either with Isaac or Maddie or just kind of her journey through this. But props to you, gee, Lily. It's not easy and you're taking the right steps. But we get a quick codbo with Lake and Michaels. And again, I feel like. The convo with Lake and Brad is much more indicative of the overall sentiment of everything.

I feel like this was very surprising to hear from Michaels that Brad was upset with her for he felt as though defending the microaggression from Emmy by taking her side by not standing up and saying something. Now she did co-sign what Michael said, but it was just kind of a yeah after he said it. So all I got from this, especially combined with the scene later, I think she was so upset that this even occurred, that Brad would even think that because she has such a strong voice in the black community and speaking out for equal rights and human rights and all of those things. So I think that it was such a shock. And that's like the last thing she would ever want. She's like, oh, my God. I know that she got a little defensive in saying like, well, Brad doesn't know me. Brad doesn't this, Brad doesn't that.

What she says later, I believe is how she feels about the entire thing. I think the whole, the whole situation for me anyway is she was caught off guard. She didn't expect that. And I think that really what it is and whether she's thinking it or Brad's thinking it, and I don't want to like put any thoughts into anybody else. No. But I think it kind of boils down to still the same situation.

Like I don't understand why you're on Emmy side to begin with. That's really where it starts. And then when you have all these other things going on, Yeah, obviously, if Brad feels some type of way because he's looking at it, like, why are you still backing Emmy after we just out at her for using microaggressions? Both can be true. Like, Lake can sit there and say, yeah, it was fucked up that she said that, but I'm still friends with her.

Like, I'm going to have a conversation with her. Like, we might get to that. And again, I'm not going to say right now it's not like, I'm going to tell Lake. Like, you need to go have a conversation with Emmy if you want to be friends with her. She's an adult. Go do what you want to do. If you're comfortable hanging out with her, you're comfortable hanging out with her. I think it really does come down to nobody can really understand why Lake is.

taking Emmy side because it's such a weird side to take, but we really haven't seen her friendship, and I don't think anybody else has. So we don't really understand the inner workings of any of that. So it is just kind of a, it's a confusing situation for everybody. And I think that's really what the root of all of this is. Everybody's a little confused. Michael's is very confused. I guess that boils over later, because we see in the clips from next week that the two of other kind of budding heads. So Michaels is very confused. Brad is definitely very confused. And now when this information is brought up the lake, she's very confused. She's like, what do you mean? I'm yeah I condemn those but I don't think that she wanted to but clearly they haven't had a conversation and if that's your friend you've got to have a conversation at some point I think they will I think they'll probably clear the air in some way shape or form and whether that goes good or not we've seen at me a million times already say something to somebody's face turn around and be like yeah just had this conversation with lake and she was accusing me of using microaggressions and trying to correct my behavior I just I just said I was sorry and I moved on but like what do I have to apologize for that'll probably happen yeah that'll probably have

happen. Let's be very honest. So I think it's just a very confusing situation for everybody. And a lot of feelings come up here where Lake feels like she's being confronted wrongfully. Then they have to have a conversation with Brad. That's really all it is. It's an end to a mean like, all right, let's sit down. I want to make sure that you know that I have your back. I understand where you're coming from. I get it. And maybe I'll have a conversation with Emmy at some point. Yeah. And you know, jumping ahead a little bit, I understand why Brad is hesitant, right? Like, right? And I think that, I mean, understand it was certain extent. I obviously as two white dudes, we will only understand what we can from this whole thing. Our job is not to try to understand it, to try and learn. I understand that part of it. I'm more saying

I can see why Brad would be upset about this whole thing. He feels like he was left out to dry. He doesn't appreciate that. And as you said, I do get where Lake is coming from. She's saying she's my girl. I am her friend. I don't want to, like I'm not going to change sides. Right. But, Of course I don't stand by what she said. That was appalling. And I will have a conversation with her about that. We will talk about it. And Brad's like, no, no, I got it.

So he's going to have his own combo with Emmy, rightfully. So, and yeah, I think that the most important thing here is that Brad and Lake were able to understand one another way they were coming from. Brad's, Brad knows that she has his back. And what I love about Brad is like when these conversations happen, when shit goes south with a friend of his Emmy, even he's very rational like he sits there he's a little defensive early with lake you know he's been a little short she didn't get rattled she's like you saw her kind of compose herself when he was like really short she's like she still says what she needs to say brad is always able to hear people out actually process it and be like you know what okay and

he you know that he's still like keeping an eye on the situation but he's like i'm willing to actually take a step forward with you and i actually believe him when he says don't like that. Yeah, and I think that the conversation that the two of them have is, it's way more of an in-depth conversation where they're able to actually convey each other's feelings. They're able to understand the other person's line of thinking. They're able to really express what they're going through or express how they viewed that situation and where they're going to go from here.

So I thought that, again, Brad's the best person on this show to have a conversation like that with because he, like you said, we'll understand where you're coming from. And he understands pretty quickly like, okay, this isn't a slight on me. I was just a little confused, but I understand where you're coming from now. I know where you are. I know what your foundations are. I understand where you are in the black community.

I understand all of those things. So yes, I fully understand and I fully accept what your way of thinking is here. That's your friend. You go handle that, but me and Emmy also have some shit to deal with too. Right. Yeah. And that's Brad's thing to take on with her. And I'm sure we'll see that on camera.

And I'm sure it will be similar to reactions that we've seen out of Emmy in the past. She's only got the smoke when nobody is around her that she's trying to give the smoke to. As soon as she has to get confronted by anybody, she coweres, quote unquote, hyperventilates and quote unquote cries. None of that's real. Yep. What a lunatic. But Brad is having an event for body by Brad. And he's been in business, I think, for four years now.

It's his personal training company. He's made a lot of moves. Very proud of this whole thing. And I think the biggest thing I get from scenes like this, from scenes like this, from scenes. of Sir Wieners, right? Is that we've got a very motivated cast trying to make a name. And they want to plant their flag in Charleston. Like, this is my thing.

I built this. The one person that doesn't really at this event is Joey Bottles. And he's looking around and he's like, you know, I look up to Brad even though he's younger than me. And I want to do this. I want to do that. I'm very curious. Just with other people do it.

You got Maddie on National. international, I think she's traveling overseas and doing shows. Like she's getting really big in the DJ world. Sir Wieners who's really taken off. Like there's people, Mia's bopping around doing beauty pageants. God knows what else. She's kind of doing her own thing. Everyone's really making these moves.

And watching Brad's progression, I think it's, it's really cool that we get a lot of Brad. Brad's kind of been like a supporting role for the first three seasons. this season's been very Brad-centric. And I'll be honest with you, I wasn't sure. I wasn't completely sold that Brad was a main character. I wanted to see how he performed. He's done really well. Like, I've really enjoyed Brad on screen this season.

Well, I think because he's so level-headed, it's such like a refreshing change of pace from normal reality TV shows where, yeah, we applaud the craziness. We applaud the chaos constantly. But it is always really refreshing to have somebody in a role, in a central role of a show like this, where it is chaos everywhere that you can, turn to somebody like Brad and you'll get a very level-headed conversation, a very level-headed

approach. So that way, when he, you know, quote-unquote pops off or does whatever, it's justified. It's immediately rationalized. It's like, okay, yeah, no, we understand why you're doing this. Yeah, if he's pissed, then it must be serious. If he's pissed, it must be serious, which is what we need. It's like a barometer for the cast. Exactly, because Mia was that barometer.

Now Mia's not like always on the show. She's been back a lot more this season. So I think she's back in full capacity. Like last year, we missed that. to chaos a little bit more too, which she's very good up. She's finit. Fenned. Wow.

Fna. I was going to say phenomenal and fantastic. And I got Fna. Does it start with a P or an F? Fanastical. Fanastical. I like that. I think it starts with an F.

Yeah, it probably starts with an F. Are you just doing a pH noise right now? Yeah. That's what that was? It's Sunday night. All right. Give me breaks. It's been a long week.

Anyway, we get back to Republic. A lot of people leave early because they are working the night shift. This is why you don't have friends at me. Because someone says, how is the event? Oh, it was packed. Space only holds 93 people. Capacity is 93 people. Yeah.

Shut up. Shut up. 93 people for a personal training party is a lot of fucking people. Okay? Yeah. And who showed up to your event? Nobody. You don't have any friends.

You see the faces, the faces of the. crowd i got a little naomi in there we had rod in there i saw rod some of charlest charleston's finest charleston's finest the southern charmers and the ex-s charlesston socialates that whole town in if these shows continue for 30 years the entire town of charleston's just going to be reality tv stars you're going to sign like your your lease agreement for your apartment and in the lease agreement it'll be a reality tv clause like bravo actually owns the rights to this uh they own the rights to your House.

Welcome to Bravo Charleston. That would be really funny. Wait a minute. Like a theme park? No, no, God. Oh. That sounds horrible. No, no.

What if they did that? What if you made a reality TV show? Like, almost like Truman's show where you just have a town. I knew you're going to turn. And you just stick cameras everywhere. And then you find like the fascinating people, you follow them around. the next season you follow out a whole batch of new people. Wait a minute.

We could do that. Yeah. I mean, it wouldn't be a city. Yeah, it would be a city. It would have to be a small town and like, that's what I said, a town. Indiana.

Yeah. Yeah, something like that could work. I think we're on to something there. Yeah, we might be on something. Bros. Network. But this is when Brad and Lake have their conversation. And obviously, it's a very powerful conversation.

We learned where Brad was coming from. We learn where Lake is coming from. they meet in the middle, they understand one another, they're able to move forward and move on. That's the most important part. And Joe comes in to fix his hair. That. Sorry, guys, mid shift.

Got to fix the hair. I got to fix the hair. I do this every time I work. You know they're staring at you. He's still just in the mirror. Just like this. It's like, the funny thing is he's not actually trying to eavesdrop.

He truly isn't. He's going in there to fix his hair. this is not when he went in there when Maddie and Brad were talking after the Sir Wiener's party. He just wants to fix his hair. He's like, hey, guys, just put a pause. Like, I actually don't want to hear what you guys are talking about. I need to fix my hair.

I can't be distracted. I got to get back out there. I got to fix this. He goes out there. He was very funny. Once the conversation starts to turn to Emmy, Emmy pops it. Oh, uh, uh, sorry.

Sorry, guys. Oh, sorry, guys. I can't. What are they talking about in there? And that's when we get, um, fucking, what's there,

is it Ella or Bella? We just got introduced to a new character randomly. Oh, Ella, it's Ella. Emmy and Ella. Yeah. I don't know how Ella knows all of this shit.

Does she have a fucking microphone in there? Is she listening to them? Because she knows exactly what they're talking about. Well, I assume that Brad told, like somebody told her like what was going on or Michael's maybe did. I imagine there's some chatter going around Republic and people are keying in on what's going on. but like this is my point to earlier if you're really that bad of a person which you do seem to be

then at the very least fucking fake it bro like this is crazy what's going on with lake and why is everything so like when it comes you're just always maw fucking that's like there's a guilty conscience in there somewhere exactly that was my boy what she does with it i have no fucking clue i mean usually I say that's your prerogative, but I actually don't trust her prerogative, so I'm not going to say that. But yeah, that's what it is.

Like she knows when she finds out from Ella what they're talking about, her reaction to it is because she knows that they're being truthful. She knows, oh, fuck, now I have to explain this way. You keep putting yourself in this position.

You were given an out. You were given a full blown out. You had a weird, very, very awkward hug with Brad that I don't care to ever watch again. But at that point, you could move forward. Like, you can just shut up.

up keep all of your weird microaggressions, talk to your weird fiance about it. Don't talk to us about it. Don't put it on camera. What are you doing? Like you're so worried and everybody in reality TV is always so worried about their own public image. Why do you keep doing this to yourself? Do you think that people are out there like, I actually understand where she's coming from.

They're bullying her. They're putting her in a place where she really has no other idea. She has no other way out of that place except to use microaggressions. I understand where she's coming from. No, no one's doing that. No one has your back. it was insane because she's like Ella says to her you know the microaggression you said what did I say she finishes the sentence that I was scared of him yes yeah obviously and then she screams

a microaggression are you on fucking crack that's gonna help people are gonna believe you now like you did it you did it they're telling this is what this is what she doesn't understand They're telling you that you did this. This is not subjective. We had a whole conversation about your microaggressions. Why are you so dumbfounded that they're still having a conversation about it? You're acting like it never happens. Like you talked about it.

They pointed out to you that it was a microaggression. You got upset in that moment. And a couple days later, when they're still talking about the microaggression, you're acting like it never happened. Like it's news to you. That doesn't make any sense today. And when she talks to Justin, it's like she shouldn't be allowed to like talk to people. Because she's like Brad's going.

You shouldn't be allowed to talk to people? No, she's a, she is dangerous. She walks around. She's like, Brad is like going after Lake in the back. No, he's not. And he's trying to say, I'm a racist. No, you're saying you're racist. By saying racist things, you're saying I'm racist because you're being racist.

This, this what you're doing, defending the microaggression. And then giving more evidence because he texted me. He's a grown fucking man and says this, this and that. Defending this is defending a microaggression, which is racist. Everything you're doing is racist. So I believe you are racist. And whether you're racist because you're ignorant or racist because you know what the fuck's going on, I find it hard to believe the generation you grew up in in Charleston that you're blind to this.

Maybe you are, but that's also not an. excuse, but you confirm on camera that you know what a microaggression is. And then you give the worst description ever of what a microaggression is. I know she doesn't, but that's irrelevant because they told you, okay? They were very clear about it. Brad was very clear by saying this about me, a black man, you are perpetuating stereotypes and making my life a lot harder. I already tiptoe around things because I'm afraid of people's reactions. I already quell my own reactions, because I don't want people to say there's an angry black man. So by doing this and defending this and digging that racist hole deeper,

you're alien. I don't know what her goals are. I have no idea. Why are you on TV? Go lock yourself in her room. She had an out at the end of last year. It was ruining her relationship when people were finding out that Will was cheating on her. You should have just gone away.

I still weirdly just, I don't know what it is. Her confessionals always make me laugh. because they're so delusional they're still out there that like i know that she's a sociopath and i i don't know why i really enjoy watching it but she's already past the point like serial killer documentaries yeah i think it might be yeah it's like a true crime podcast when we're listening to her like oh she did it she did it's like three minutes into into a documentary unsolved mysteries we're going to interview emmy and then she starts talking like no whoa whoa what's her look at her did we look at her Can we interviewer?

Actually, just take this footage. It's like that HBO, what was the HBO show where they had this guy interviewing the whole time? And then they're like, oh, actually it was. Oh, Robert Frost? Yeah, it was that guy. Yeah. That's Emmy. That's Emmy on this show right now.

I would not be surprised. I just say the author. That might have been the poet, but it is Robert something. But yeah, she's like. Murderer. I love that you're looking at. Oh, Robert Durst. Robert Durst.

Yeah. Fred Durst, Dirst, Dad. I forgot he died. I know, I know. Thanks, man. But yeah, Emmys, Emmy's way past the point of like, so many different easy outs.

They're giving her every easy out possible. She's gone now. She actually has to get on her knees and beg for forgiveness at this point. She never will. But she could have gotten out and like, there were so many times where it's like, just shut up, just stop talking. Stop. And you'll be okay.

If you stop talking and you're just nice to people, everybody's going to forget, everybody's going to move on. But you keep doing things. So now you're actually past the point of you can't just shut up. You actually have to explain these things. So I mean, it's not going to go well. She's not going to be able to explain it in any way that makes sense or deserves forgiveness. But I don't know where the fuck we go with Emmy.

This is, I keep wanting to say that this seems like her last year. But at the same time, like, I don't think it is. She's like, she's like, glutton for punishment, apparently. Because that's the other thing is like, if she. tells Bravo like, yeah, I'll come back for the next season. They're going to take her in a heartbeat. Oh, yeah. They're not going to kick her off.

But let's look at some questions here. I see a lot of statements. From C. Hurley 44, I like this. I'm really proud of Grace Lily for sharing her struggles on camera. That can't be easy. Here, here. I agree. Yeah. From

KZ Danzig. G. Lili getting dismissed and leaving with more poisoned housewives two times her age is wild. She did have a lot of poise. That whole scene of her leaving Molly's apartment was fucking hilarious. That was my favorite part. Anybody see my phone in there? It's down one of those cracks because Molly has one of those weird like cloud

couches. I hate those things. But yeah, you lose things of those cracks. Can you just get that? Coming through. Hold on. Coming through here,

guys. Let me squeeze through. I'm just going to leave. Should I leave the door open or halfway? Cool. All right. See you guys. Bye.

Bye. That was really. One more time. It was. Face of the Angel says episode showed they don't need Emmy to be excellent TV. Firmly agree. They really don't, honestly. I mean, Emmy, when she's not being racist, is so crazy that it makes for good TV.

But they don't need Emmy by any means. Not at all. Um, but bum, bum. Yeah, from, yeah, yeah, Mike. Do you think Maddie was wrong for saying it first? about Grace. If she did, and it wasn't a timing thing where Grace was like, hey, I talked about it already.

Yes. Yeah, that's not a great move on her part. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the timeline is. But yeah, don't do that, everybody. Yeah, from Jade Brianna, catch Amy word for word defining stereotypes when asked what a microgression was. Yeah.

She started, it was almost like that sudden realization where she started. where she starts going down that path. And she's like, yeah, it's, uh, it's like people saying like women can't drive. No. Like she said, make a subjective assumption based off of, you know, you know, like women are bad drivers. No. Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

But yeah, I mean, the other ones in here are pretty much just statements. Uh, Rachel Michaelis says, I cannot stand. Emmy. I know it's not a question though. Yeah. And we covered everything else. A lot of people, that's the important thing. I'm seeing a lot of people in here talking about Grace Lilly and a nice powerful scene.

So good for her. We know she's still going through it. So hopefully she's good. Yeah, I agree. Anything else? Nope. Well, it's the best show on TV. It really is.

This show is phenomenal. So as per usual, if you're still not watching it, what do you do? This and Ladies of London need to be top two on their list. Like they are, they are leaps and bounds. It is so unfortunate that our Beverly Hills episodes do so well because all I really want to do is talk about ladies of London. Same. And every time for the Thursday shows, we're like, ah, we have to do Beverly Hills first.

Let's just get this shit out of the way. End on high note with Ladies 11th. Well, well, Kimmy and Mark Francis followed us. Mark left us on red though. Kimmy said it's all that. She fucking loves us. Mark left us on red. That bummed me out.

Well, yeah, I'll try again. Look, I mean, I message Kimmy. She messaged back. You messaged Mark. He did not. Is that why? So, yeah. I thought it was really cool.

Yeah. I thought I was being cool. Maybe I wasn't. Maybe you weren't being cool. It's going to haunt me until the answers. I'm going to be haunted. I washed my hands of that right away. I'm like, I don't have to feel any type of way about this.

I know. Even though it was clearly, it's both of us, quote, unquote, reaching out to him. Sure. I'm still putting that. I'm still putting that misshot. But that gives me another chance because we technically have two chances with everybody because they think it's you and then it's me. So I can try again. I just got to be really cool this time.

I got to maybe reply to a story. That's probably the move. Yeah. Looking great, Mark. Beautiful, beautiful flat, Mark. Don't do that. You're awesome. I want him to like us.

So please stop. Hey, Mark. I'll send him that clip from the room. Well, hi, Mark. If anyone gets that reference. Wow. Wow. Anyway.

Great job. That's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. Well, that's our show. Brasor out of here. Oh, please. Not that music.

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