Bros & Shows - Bombs in Atlanta, Nudes in the Vineyard (RHOA, SHMV)

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

What's up Bro's?! We took your advice and we jumped into Summer House: Martha's Vineyard and it DID NOT disappoint! In this week we watch as Silas constantly mansplains to every person in the house, w...orst of all to his own wife. Shanice returns and things seem to be great between her and Bria until Shanice gets naked in the hot tub with Simon... Jordan continues to not want a man this summer but Alex has thrown his hat in the ring after outing Amir for calling "dibs" on Jordan this summer. Overall this is a fun, and entertaining show that you should all get into! Then were onto Atlanta where Marlo is trying to drum up more support against Kandi. Quentin's shooting comes up again and Marlo is claiming that the lack of empathy and condolences from Kandi is a real issue. Meanwhile, Santa's family is feeling a certain way about the possibility of having to move out of the house. Things escalate at the "diffuse the bomb" party (oh the irony) and this bomb does not get diffused as things explode and we see some fireworks amongst the ladies. Time Stamps: Summer House: Martha's Vineyard (4:03) RHOA (34:52) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:41 But my branches are worldwide. Forget the gaslight. I'm taking the spotlight. Bravo Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Hooters McGee. I like that one.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Yeah, that's a really good one. I want everybody to know out there that Steele does take time and effort to read pretty much all of these. I do. And figure out which one he wants to use, then forgets that he wants to use that one. I do. And then it has to frantically figure out what he wants to do. And we'll usually just make one up on the spot. So we love it.
Starting point is 00:02:23 No, Hooters McGee's real. Yeah, I know. You didn't come up with that one. I know. Oh, fuck you. I came up with so many over the years that I think I deserve a little bit more credit than that, but that's fine. That's fine. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Well, Steele is officially one-uping me if you're watching on YouTube. He decided to go get pictures with his beautiful family, and I came over in Jim Shorts and a T-shirt. So, you know? I feel like I've been outdressed by you more so. I'm usually the one in shorts and a T-shirt when you come over, like, after work, and you're wearing, like, a polo and, like, jeans or khakis or something like that. So I feel like I get out showing a lot. So for our YouTubers. What's up, you beautiful people?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Tubers? Our tubers, our two bros. There are two bros. You get to enjoy a little steel. Real deal? Real deal, steel. Thank you. Yeah, real steel.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I got my swanky clothes on. We took some pictures down in the fancy part of the city, you know, down to Lancy. Yeah. Bo Dietl's here. Yeah. Now, Bo Dietl, see? This is Bo Diedel. He's back in the 20, see?
Starting point is 00:03:26 No, we actually heard Bo Diedel tonight. and woof. Yeah, the deeper. He sounds exactly what you would imagine. He looks exactly how you'd imagine. He sounds exactly how you'd imagine. And he 100% seems like a guy that Louis would do business with. I still have not figured out who the actor is that played Mario and Super Mario Brothers, as we talked about last week.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Oh, don't bring it back up. I'm going to have to go through this again. No, it's okay. It's all right. This episode's already going downhill. It's going down the tree. This is a rough cold start for the boys. But look, I mean, we're here.
Starting point is 00:03:56 We had to figure out something new. new try to cover all of our bases make sure that we had enough content for both episodes so a lot of you will be happy to hear we are diving into martha's vineyard this week yes so that is actually where we're going to start eventually but you know we got a couple of things to get to maybe some plugs oh you're looking at me like no fucking idea what i was going to look at me i don't know your favorite word i gave you i gave you the plug eyes all right i thought you were such an idiot Do you have a new segment planned? I was so excited to hear what you had to come up with.
Starting point is 00:04:33 How chaotic would that be? I just start a new segment without telling you at all. It's just a plug. We have business meetings. We talk about these things. Yeah, no, we don't. Let's start out with the plug. So we got our live show coming up, July 26th, in New York City at the City Winery.
Starting point is 00:04:47 If you haven't gotten your tickets yet, we are rapidly outselling Philadelphia. So get your tickets as soon as you can. We already sold out of premiere seats, which are like by the stage. but general admission is still great seats. You can see everything on the stage. The room is a decent size, but it's not massive. So everyone in the room's got a good spot. Dinner, drinks, the whole thing at the city winery.
Starting point is 00:05:07 So make sure you get your tickets. Come hang out with us. We're announcing our guests soon. We got some really good ones. So get your tickets. I don't know what you're waiting for. Yeah. Go get them.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Just go do it. Go get them. Just go online. Nofilterlive.com. Get your ticket and come hang out with the bros. We want to see you guys. We want to interact. There's a meet and greet option as well.
Starting point is 00:05:25 so come hang out with us, buy your tickets ASAP. Any other plugs? No, I think that's it for now. All right, cool, cool. But as Shooter said, we did finally get into Martha's Vineyard, and I, for one, had a very good time. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this show. How about you?
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yeah, so did I. It's amazing that we, obviously, we had a lot of content to cover, so it doesn't really surprise me that we didn't dig into this. We watched it, but, We didn't dig into it as far as kind of breaking it down on the episodes. But thoroughly enjoyed it. It seems like it has the workings of an early summer house, which is ideal. It's kind of weird because it's sort of in a chamber, if you will.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's 15 straight days rather than kind of like going back and forth, weekend to weekend. Yes. But it has the same feel where you get people coming in and out, like Sheenice, who's there for, you know, a couple days, leaves, comes back. You get spouses, boyfriends, girlfriends, whoever else might be showing up. so there's a lot of fun components to it and you can tell they're still feeling it out but the majority of them seem like they're TV ready which I think is usually the biggest holdback
Starting point is 00:06:32 for these new shows either they come in too hot where they're trying to do too much for the camera they come in kind of uncomfortable and seems forced this is a very comfortable crew that's a good note yeah and it is to be noted of course now note is now the word of the day to be noted that a lot of them do know each other already but that a lot of times
Starting point is 00:06:51 that doesn't translate to TV so we got to give them props for props are due. I think standout stars so far for me. I really liked Amir pretty much since day one. I liked his demeanor. I liked the way that he goes about things. So Amir's at the top of my list right now.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Bottom of my list, I'm not even going to give you the second, third, fourth. The bottom of the list is Silas. Silas without a doubt. Honestly, Silas, and then Jasmine's a little above him. He is intolerable. He has worked his way further down. Jasmine has kind of stayed in that second and the last spot. Yeah. But, man, does he suck? And he's going to hold this show back
Starting point is 00:07:23 It's just so weird to see because it's almost like they have that Amanda and Kyle vibe where they're the married couple in the house who they get the big room and they get to dictate who comes into the house, how long they're going to stay, make a big deal about things, except Kyle and Amanda were tolerable. Silas is an asshole. Silas took it upon himself to become the father of the house for some reason. I don't know why he gets the ability to dictate who enters and leaves the home. I don't know why he's in charge of everything. I don't know why he talks to people the way he does. I don't know why he talks to Jasmine the way he does his wife. And we'll get into that this episode.
Starting point is 00:08:00 But I would agree with the bottom of my power rankings is for sure, Silas. After this week, Jasmine kind of worked a way up a little bit. I think that Silas is holding her back. And I know they're freshly married. That's what I was to say. I think it's really just, you know, not being cognizant of the fact that you're having sex in a house with 10 to 12 other people, depending on the week or the day, rather, whatever. And you're going to be that loud.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Like, that's just... Bad form. Bad form. It's bad form. You know, if you're going to do that in a house full of people, just be courteous. Obviously, they're going to know what's going on. They'll hear the, you know, they'll hear it. But don't make, don't add to it.
Starting point is 00:08:35 You don't have to make it obvious. Like, there's a difference, right? If you hear like a thumping of a headboard, you kind of giggle, like, ho-ha. Like, someone's getting after it. See, that's the thing is I don't know if I would giggle if it was the same thing every single night for 15 days in a run. No, no, no, no. Well, you're not letting me finish. I was going to say there's a difference between a banging headboard and, and,
Starting point is 00:08:52 audible moans and sex noises. Low-hanging fruit when you say, I'm not going to let you finish. I really hold by talking about that one. Like, you know, you know, you know. Don't just keep going. I can't help it. We're off the fucking rails tonight.
Starting point is 00:09:08 But I think at the top of my list, it's hard to say, because I'm still feeling everybody out, and it's a brand new cast. And I think the exciting thing for me is that it is a brand new cast, but it's people that I want to get to know more about. And I haven't had that feeling. I liked Girlfriends in Paris.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I'm bummed that more people didn't give that a chance. Yep. That was an all new cast. I liked that show. Soho, we loved, obviously. And this is the third one we've gotten where it's a new cast and it's a new premise. And the best way I can, I'm not going to pick a favorite cast member yet because I don't have the, I just don't have a favorite yet. But I will say, given the recent performances of these newer shows, I'm optimistic more so than just caution.
Starting point is 00:09:52 optimistic. Yeah, I'm just wondering what they're going to do with it. I think that you can kind of expand a little bit. So obviously, like I said, they do 15 straight days, weird number. Moving forward, if you do get a good reception from this, if people do really watch this and they start to like these characters, you can kind of start to build something from the ground up here. Maybe you do sort of the same thing that you do in Summer House and have them come every weekend, depending on where they're all located. It seems like they might be a little bit more Martha's Vineyard's different because the Hamptons you can bop back and forth from New York. It's a three-hour drive with traffic right drive.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Martha's Vineyard, you have to go by boat or plane. Right. So you can't just like cruising and out of there. I'm just wondering if they're in Boston. I know the majority of them are located in Boston from what I saw. But I think there's a couple that are located in New York. There are, you know, other Connecticut, wherever they might be. So it does get a little tricky when you do that.
Starting point is 00:10:44 But if you assure them a spot on a show that's going to be on Bravo, they will figure it out. At the end of the day, they'll figure it out. Bravo is going to figure out how to get them there. Exactly. That's not their job. But yeah, so I think that, I think that everything's pointing in the right direction. I think it's entertaining. I think they have a good feel, and I think that they're handling themselves for the most part.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Honestly, Silas is really the only dud of the group. I agree. I agree with you completely where I want to know more about what's going through, say, Alex's head. I want to know what's going through Summer's head. I want to know what's going through Jordan's head, whatever. everybody brings something a little different to the table. And I think they did a really good job. That's kind of a shout out to Bravo,
Starting point is 00:11:24 just kind of handpicking these people because they all are a little different, but they have enough in common where they can still have fun together. I agree. I agree. I will say dudes and chicks, everybody. This is one of the more attractive cast collectively,
Starting point is 00:11:39 I think I've seen on a show. Yeah. Just the note. And I think that we have a good season ahead of us. I think that we have a promising season ahead of us. We're going to recap this week's episode. You can expect a much more in-depth recap next week. We get back into it just because we kind of crammed a little bit to catch up.
Starting point is 00:11:55 But the big things to note from this one, we start out, we're at the dinner, and last week we ended the episode with Jasmine starting to cry. We learned that she feels that she's missing out on the girlfriend aspect of her life, where she used to have friends and be able to talk to her friends and be comfortable with her friends, and she feels like she's lost that through marriage. now I could totally see that happening in any couple like it happens you get married or you get into a a committed relationship and some things in your social life fall by the wayside i get that it happens and it's important to check yourself when it does now when you're married to a dude like silas
Starting point is 00:12:32 that's probably a much easier thing to happen because he's a controlling asshole so yeah now that's a good point you can kind of see the gears kind of turning in jasmine's head in the fifth episode when she's talking to Jordan, and we know that Jordan was abstinent for a full year. They had a whole brunch plan and stuff for her. And everything that, at least from my perspective, everything that Jasmine was saying to Jordan sounded differently coming from the married woman. She was talking about how, you know, you might be missing out on a relationship. You might want to get with this guy or that guy and kind of plan your life moving forward. And the way that Jordan received it was you're a married woman, you're looking into my relationship, or lack thereof, saying,
Starting point is 00:13:10 hey, you need to be with a man or otherwise, you don't really know what you're doing. And when that information was presented back to Jasmine, that's how Jordan had received it. You can see Jasmine kind of look around, like, why don't other women trust me? Like, what's going on here? I'm just trying to have a normal conversation. I'm trying to reach out. And for some reason, something's not clicking. So there's got to be something more there.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And obviously, we've seen enough of Silas to understand that he is essentially controlling her life. It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. you have a wife, let her go be friends with friends. He just doesn't trust her at all. He comments on her on a short leash. He doesn't want her to do this, doesn't want her to do that, doesn't want her to wear this or that. So he's just controlling every aspect of her life.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And it's kind of bottling her up. So I like that in this moment, at least to start off the episode, she used it in a group setting. She didn't go to one person. She decided to tell the entire group. Now, obviously, the entire group is blindsided. Everyone's looking around like, what the fuck's going on? Why is this woman crying at the end of the table?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Is everything okay? And she breaks down. and everybody sort of understands it. I feel like everybody has her back in that moment. They do seem to, yeah. Because we don't get that on other shows, and that was our biggest complaint with Summerhouse was Lindsay would bring up an issue
Starting point is 00:14:18 and half the house hates Lindsay. Kyle might bring up an issue. Everybody, or a couple people hate Kyle. Like, there's no discord where everybody can just kind of rally behind one person. And in this moment, we saw that, obviously aside from Silas, but it was nice to see it.
Starting point is 00:14:32 It was a good change up. Yeah, and like Jason chimes in. And I like Jason. I think Jason's close to the top. for me because he's emotionally intelligent, he's not afraid to talk about things, and I like that. The next day, Shanice arrives. And for better or worse, lover or hater, Shanice is a tornado that is made for reality TV. Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it. And I touched on her a little bit before where she comes for a couple days and leaves and
Starting point is 00:14:58 comes back. She brings, like I said, she brings a completely different element to this house. You get somebody like Nick who's very kind of like tidy and well-dressed. is kind of afraid to jump into the pool with all of his clothing on because it's too expensive. And then obviously we do see him jump into the pool a little bit later. But Janice brings a completely different element
Starting point is 00:15:17 where it allows other people to kind of grow when you have somebody in the house like that that's going to kind of take those risks, if you will, or just be that loose cannon. Use the wild card. Other people start to loosen up. And that's what you want in a summer house show, especially, but in any sort of entertaining show.
Starting point is 00:15:34 No, I agree. And Janice comes back and we find out, that I think her and Alex had a little thing and, or at least it was leaning towards potentially having a thing. There's a rumor that comes out. I guess Shanice was with a guy, and once they broke up, he started to blast her on social media saying that she was a stalker and saying all these really lewd and lascivious, is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Sure. Saying all these lewd things about her. Pretty much claimed that she's crazy and that she was the problem. Alex Googled her, I guess. and Alex reads all this stuff, and now he feels some kind of way about it. So, Shanice immediately takes that as disrespect from Alex, so she's now out on Alex. So they seem to have parted ways slightly towards the end of the episode. Sheenice says that she's going to give them another chance.
Starting point is 00:16:22 We'll see where that goes. Yeah, and I mean, I think it's kind of interesting to see the dynamics of who wants to hook up with who. And you can see there's a lot of single people in this house. And like you said, they're pretty much all attractive. So it's interesting to see from episode to episode, you'll see one person flirting with another person, flirting with another person, flirting with another person. And we get to see in, I think, the fifth episode,
Starting point is 00:16:43 Alex and Summer start to kind of click on a different level where they're talking about meditation and their jobs and how they handle life and stress. And immediately both of them start to think that the other person is more attractive. Summer even drops out. She had originally said Amir was the most attractive. That's the person she wanted to go after.
Starting point is 00:17:00 And then she had that one little discussion with Alex. And then all of a sudden it was, well, you know what? I kind of like Alex. And it's funny to see because they're all pretty, free about it. So I don't know. I'm into it. I'm curious who's going to end up with who and like, I'm sure it won't matter. They might end up together at the end of the season and then well, yeah, I mean, it's Bravo. So who the fuck knows is going to happen? But anyway, Milo, I love Milo. I think Milo is a great addition. I think every any show like a summer house or a winter house
Starting point is 00:17:27 should have a dog involved. I think that it adds a really fun. That is so surprising for me to hear from you. Interesting. Why? Why? Well, oh, yeah. I complain about the dogs on these shows. I complain about The poorly trained dogs. Milo, why I like Milo is because he adds this random dynamic. Like, out of nowhere, he can cause a fight in the house because he takes a shit on the carpet. That's true. Like, it's just, it's a wildcard that you get that you really don't know who's going to get provoked, when they're going to get provoked, or why they're going to get provoked.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And they get home, and the dog took a shit on the carpet. It's like the most mundane, who cares. Well, I do wonder if it wasn't Brea's dog, say that it was Shanice's dog or... I don't know. Name another person in the house, honestly. There's an issue between Bria and Silas that was stemming from Brea wanting to have her boyfriend from Germany come and spend the last, I think, full week there. But who cares? So hold on.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Let's actually have this discussion because at first, when I heard that, I said, who gives a shit? Like, honestly, who cares? But they're only there for 15 days. So this guy from Germany is coming in and staying for a full week with one of the castmates. I get if you want to have your significant other there. I kind of disagree with the fact that you have a married couple in the house. It's a little weird to do that. If they're doing the summer house vibe, right, you need that anchor.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I think they were looking for the anger. You have a boyfriend in the house for almost 50% of the time who's not a full castmate. So from a production standpoint, I wouldn't really want that because I want Brea to go mix it up with everybody else. And she has a good rapport with Amir and Nick. So you see that pretty much episode to episode. But that's really who she sticks to. Once her boyfriend shows up, all of a sudden she's just going to have those three. people she doesn't think in this episode we see her continuing to interact other people she
Starting point is 00:19:11 still gets turned up with chenice they still had a really good time like she's still fairly like the longevity of it if you're really going to have your boyfriend there for most of the trip are you going to do as much as you would without your boyfriend which is a fair thing to assume probably more about the relationship from the show correct but also why i want him there for the entirety of it is simply because silas doesn't want him there and the fact that silas thinks he can dictate who is in this house drives me crazy and when the dog takes a shit silas calls a house meeting so you don't need to have a house meeting for everything thank god preston's there and preston's like we don't have to do this like you literally just walked by bria's room her
Starting point is 00:19:47 door shut you walked by her room to tell us about her dog taking a shit sometimes you just need to grow up and be an adult preston says that it's a great say to brian don't or or just pick up the pick up the shit who cares like that's well i get it if you do it multiple times and you start to get annoyed by it, but one time, clearly he's not a dog guy. No, he's definitely not, obviously. He's an annoying guy, so he's definitely not a dog guy. We're just going to throw that out there. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:20:13 But yeah, go right to Briah if you have a problem with the first time. If there was an issue, if the dog pooped in your room and it started to smell up your room, sure, whatever. But it's in a common room. It's not really near anybody. You don't have to make a big stink about this. But you also don't have to call an entire house meeting. What are these people going to say to you?
Starting point is 00:20:32 That's what I don't. It's not their dog. They're going to say, oh, what do you want us to do? What if, you know, how they kicked off Phil and Mariah, like, early on in the season, what if they have a house meeting where they vote to just kick the dog out? That's actually really funny. We need to decide Milo's fate. All in favor and everyone has to vote on whether or not just to get rid of the dog.
Starting point is 00:20:51 The biggest twist would be, actually, we're getting rid of Silas. Yeah, Simon, you can stay. Yeah, flip it or they open up the voting box. They do the voting thing because they also talked about whether or not significant others can stay more than three days, and they voted on it. And I think, like, six or seven of them voted, they can only stay for a max of three days. And I don't think anything's going to come of it. I think that Simon's going to stay for the full week at this point. But everyone's getting ready to go out for a night.
Starting point is 00:21:14 They got a girl's night and a boy's night juxtaposed to each other. So I enjoyed this night out. But before we get there, Silas says a lot of misogynistic stupid things. And I've written them all down just so every time it happens, I don't miss one. He's talking to Jasmine. She's getting ready. He's like, oh, you're wearing that dress that I bought you? and he walks in the bathroom and she's wearing a different dress
Starting point is 00:21:35 and he's like oh where did you get that dress and he walks out he goes well technically I bought all these dresses for you and just like struts off like he's the man like yeah I just need to say this so I can pretend my dick's big for about 20 seconds because I pay for all your shit because I'm the man like everything about him well it's the same thing as when he was having sex and they pointed out that they were too loud
Starting point is 00:21:53 he couldn't have sex with her if she wasn't being loud right right he needs that gratification he's a piece of shit interesting he's a loser interesting I like that But they go out for this night. And the ladies' night, we don't really have much to talk about because they had a good time. And this is where I feel like we got to meet Jasmine a little bit more than we have because she starts out the night hot. She takes a shot and she's getting all jacked up. Like she's excited to be out with the girls.
Starting point is 00:22:18 They're twerking on tables. They're like falling on the ground. Here's one thing that like I'm bummed as a dude, what we can't do. I mean, I guess we could. I mean, kind of, but just listen to the whole thing. obviously dudes can twerk that's not what I'm saying but when girls fall I have actually yeah I actually have yeah we're being honest cool um nah you two bros you're not gonna see me on this but no when a girl falls down you can have a clumsy moment and fall down if you land
Starting point is 00:22:48 on all fours and you just hit a twerk and then get up you can play it off yeah that's true i think as a dude you don't have that luxury of like hitting the ground and then twerking real quick so as soon as you lose balance and you hit the ground you're done yeah you're gonna be made fun of for weeks to come. Right. If you throw a twerk on top, I think it'll make it worse, whereas a girl could hit the floor and be like, twerk, twerk, and everyone's like, oh, you.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Guys get a walk match? Yeah, exactly. So, you know, I'm just, little things. It's the little things. But, well, ladies, night's a good time. The girls turned up, and that's what we wanted to see, especially for Jasmine. It's kind of like, this is how I wanted the night in Summerhouse,
Starting point is 00:23:22 summer house to go with Lindsay going out. That's what we got with Jasmine. The girls actually showed her a good time. Like, hey, you haven't been out with us in a while. Let's get after it. And they did. flash to the boys night, and you've got Silas just running the dinner table and saying about how his routine is off.
Starting point is 00:23:37 He's like, my routine's off because Jasmine makes me breakfast every day, and I feel like I'm on routine mode, and she's on vacation mode. And like, did you see what she did to the breakfast this morning? She burnt half of my breakfast sandwich. And it's like, dude, you're sitting at a table with a bunch of guys. They don't want to talk about this shit. One, two, do you hear yourself? You're upset because-
Starting point is 00:23:56 She makes breakfast when they go on vacation? Their routine is that she makes breakfast. I get that for the day. But, like, you go on a vacation. Do you expect your wife to cook for you every morning? Fuck, no. Absolutely not. I'm asking you.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I'm asking this idiot. I'm saying to this idiot, fuck, no, absolutely not. Like, how could you sit there and say, I don't understand how she's on vacation mode? Bitch, you're in the Hamptons. Yeah. No, sorry, you're in the vineyard. You're in the vineyard. It's going to get confusing with the two houses.
Starting point is 00:24:18 In the vineyard, you're in Martha's Vineyard for a 15-day vacation. No, she's not going to wake up and cook your dumb-ass breakfast every day, nor should she. Let her have a vacation, Silas. clearly this marriage is going to go a certain way. You're going to dictate when you're at home. So for this 15-day period, let your girl live. Also, isn't it nice to get out of a routine? That's what I would think.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Isn't that what vacation is supposed to be? Like, hey, yeah, I'm going to do whatever the hell I want. I don't have to be stuck in a regimented schedule. And Nick speaks up and he's like, hey, it sounds like you're saying, hey, where's my breakfast? Like, you have a problem with her just not cooking for you. And Jason speaks up and just says, like, you know, you need to relax and tries to talk to him on an emotional level. Silas is not an emotional guy. No.
Starting point is 00:24:56 He's not in touch with his emotions. he doesn't know about his emotions. He thinks the old school, I'm a man. So I'm going to be a man. And if you're not a man, you're a woman and you're lesser than me, the man. Yeah. And Jason's trying to talk to him about understanding and feelings and things. And Silas's response was exactly what I thought it was going to be, but was still surprising to hear.
Starting point is 00:25:19 He's like, you think too much when you talk to the ladies. You think too much. If you think too much, you're not going to get any pussy. That's something the guy that has not had a lot of sex in his life says, things like that. Yeah. That's the kind of person that says stupid shit like that is guys that do not get laid. They're like, bro, if you want to get pussy, you got to do X, Y, and Z.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It's like, oh, really? Because if you and Jason go out and it's like to see who can pick up more chicks, Jason wins 10 times out of 10. Quality and quantity. He's got green eyes. He's a gorgeous man. You're a misogynistic asshole and arguably the least attractive guy in the house. So the fact that he sits there and tells Jason how to get.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I think he's just on his high horse at all times because he's married. Is he married because he's not wearing his fucking wedding ring? It's the first boy's night out and my man does not have his wedding ring on. But I think that speaks to your old school mentality where, yes, he's married, but he also still thinks that he's the man. So he's like, he can talk from a place of, I got the chick, I got the ultimate prize, I got married. You hear me having sex every night. She's having a great time. I'm having a great time.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I can pull any chick that's here because I pulled her and I don't need to prove it to you because I'm married. That's the type of mentality that he has and he can talk down to people who don't and I feel that's what he's doing the entire time and it's just super tiring
Starting point is 00:26:41 but I'm super thankful that we have people in this group. We have people on this show that will immediately just stand up at a table and yell at you and point out something that you're doing very stupidly. It's how you receive it and he doesn't receive it well. He doesn't hear anything.
Starting point is 00:26:56 It goes in one ear and out the other, and it's a really funny moment because some ladies send the guys some drinks. And there's a scene from a previous episode where Silas makes a big stink about the girls are going out. And they're like, well, what do the girls do when they go out? Like, oh, we dance, we twerk. We get free drinks. And he's like, absolutely not. If you're married, free drinks are an absolute no. So as soon as the drinks come over, Silas is smiling.
Starting point is 00:27:18 He's acting like, he's going to take a drink. Alex stands over the table. He's like, you can't drink that. No, no, no, you can't drink that. You're the one that said married people can't accept free drinks. So you absolutely can't drink that. And you can tell he still wants to. And then he kind of like laughs and like leans back.
Starting point is 00:27:31 He's not going to. And that's when they find out the wedding ring is off. So that whole moment just like cultivated in this great scene of getting put in his place. By the way, if Dev goes out and some dudes buyer free drinks, fuck, take the drinks. Yeah. It's a free drink. Just make sure you don't, you know, watch the bartender pour it so you can see what's in the drink. But take the drink.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It's free. Absolutely. Always. Always take the free drink as long as you can see where it came from. Yeah, make sure you can see where it came from. Cappiott. Guys and girls out there. Yes. Just always, always know where your drink came from. But if you get a free drink, married, not married, whatever, take the fucking drink.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Take the drink and then go back to your spouse. That's the best move. Say, thanks, dude. And then walk back to your man and like have your guy give him a cheer. Like, hey, thanks, bud. Thanks for picking up my dad. Move. There's nothing wrong with that. But regardless, it flashes the Silas who's on his phone. And in that moment at the table, he's checking Jasmine's location.
Starting point is 00:28:26 like give it a rest buddy why do you get to ah i just can't i really out of his routine he's got to make sure he's got to make sure you out too late got to wake up early make me breakfast she's gonna sleep in again tomorrow they're not be getting free drinks i don't want her hung over burn my damn sandwich in the morning but they get back home and this is where things get a little interesting when they get home brie and chenise immediately go skinny dipping and they're like up on the table and their bikinis twerking and Fast forward, they're all kind of in the hot tub. Now, this is where it gets a little muddied because they're all naked, or not all of them,
Starting point is 00:29:03 but Shanice and Brea are naked for a little while. Briah at some point goes inside to cook a steak at midnight, which I love that move. I don't miss a lot. I don't miss a lot about drinking. I miss moments like that where it's just like for no reason at like 2 a.m. And you're just like the perfect amount of drunk. and you're like, oh, I'm going to make a steak right now. That's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Nobody can tell me this is a bad idea because it's the best idea I've ever had. And then you wake up the next day, you ate two bites of a 30-out steak and it's sitting cold in the kitchen, not nearly cooked enough. And you're like, ooh, take miss with a grain of salt. I don't actually miss that. Right. But it's just like a, that was a funny moment. But the real issue starts when Brea realizes that Simon is in the hot tub with Janice. now there's more people in the hot tub do i think that it's a bad look for him to be like
Starting point is 00:29:59 doing a shot out of the bottle while a fully naked woman is standing right next to him and his girls in the house absolutely that's a really bad look for you do i think that it warranted the reaction from brea because we get even into the following day she's trying to talk to everybody about this situation that happened last night she walks outside the night of and is livid at Simon. She's living at Cheney. She's trying to raise hell cause a scene. She's like storms off inside. Ask Simon what the hell he was doing.
Starting point is 00:30:28 When she wakes up the next day, she admittedly is like everything's a blur really. I don't remember a whole lot. She's still upset about this whole thing. But to me, watching for the entirety of the rest of this episode, it seemed to me like she was trying to create
Starting point is 00:30:43 an issue where there really wasn't one. I don't think it was cool of him to do what he did. I think he probably should have bounced Salata, went inside, found Bray. I'd be like, hey, she's naked. Or just gone inside and, like, avoided the situation. But when she's trying to talk to everybody in the house, nobody's giving her the time of day.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Nobody cares. Everyone's kind of like, yeah, that happened. But that's why I like this show, because nobody really cares. Like, you see that on Summer House OG, everybody will go congregate in the room and Page's room and go talk about it and then spin some crazy story that gets people even angrier. In this, everybody's just like, who cares? It's a non-issue.
Starting point is 00:31:19 It doesn't matter. other people in the hot tub. Yes, should Simon have probably, you know, called to quits and gotten out maybe a couple minutes later, he probably also doesn't want to be trailing her like a puppy dog and going in like, oh, you're going to go cook a steak, like, let me go after you and go do that. But if there's a naked woman also in the hot tub, and then it gets to the point where it's like you and her and then maybe one other person, but you're kind of close to where should you be drinking at that point?
Starting point is 00:31:41 Probably not. Get the fuck out of the hot tub. Go find your girlfriend or go talk to the guys. Like there are multiple options that you could do there. I mean, he wasn't the only guy in the hot tub. Jason was in there too. Here's the thing. It's not the best look.
Starting point is 00:31:52 It's not, but it doesn't warrant the reaction of being mad about it all the next day. Look, Brea can be mad about it all she wants and she can give Simon shit for it because it was a bad move on his part, but to then bring it to other housemates and expect them to get all riled up with you, and they don't care. Like, that's the one thing that we've noticed over these, the first five or six days, however long they've been there, is that when issues like this pop up that really don't bother other people like the dog pooping, like this, People just keep to themselves.
Starting point is 00:32:21 They see it as a non-issue. They move on. They don't really want to talk about it. They don't want to harp on things, which I fucking love. That's what every show needs. That's a really good point. We don't get stuck on one little thing and then run with it. Like, yes, there is an overlaying issue where Silas is an asshole to pretty much everybody in the house, including his wife.
Starting point is 00:32:38 That is something that you can kind of sink your teeth into because that's a problem. This is not a problem. This is an instance that there was an issue in a relationship. Handle it amongst yourselves. Leave everybody else out of it. and move on absolutely that's well said that's a good point this this crew is quick to move on from issues which gets us to the next issue which i really appreciate but to your point with silas once again and this is pretty much going to be like the silas episode not only did he say some shit to
Starting point is 00:33:06 jasmine as she's getting ready to go out to this rosé day they're having he's commenting on everything from what shoes she's wearing he's commenting on what she looks good in he's commenting on the fact that he's trying to have a conversation where he's like are you going to shut the door like in the most condescending way. And she's like, no, I'm not going to shut the door. We're just having a conversation. Like, everything is about him. Flash forward, they're taking a table outside.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Now, if you and I are taking a table outside and I tried to stand there, a mansplained to you how to take the said table out the door, you would instantly tell me to go, fuck myself. Drop the table. Yeah, and you would probably not help me take the table out. Correct. So he's telling Jason how to pick up this table and get it through the door. Jason, understandably, is like, I know how to pick up a table.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Can we just lift the goddamn table? table. Silas goes into a speech about, well, I was a platoon leader and as a platoon leader we went to the firing range. I had to make sure that everybody was lined up and doing what they had to do. So I had to explain things and break them down to their most basic form to make sure that's just who I am. This is how I explain things. That's not true, Silas. Not that you weren't a platoon leader, but that you explain this to everybody. You explain this to people you look down on. This is how you talk to people that you look down. It's how you talk to Jasmine. It's how you talk to Jason because you think that he's feminine or something.
Starting point is 00:34:19 thing for being in touch with his feelings, even though he probably does way better with women than you ever have, whatever. That's an insecurity of your own that you need to address. But don't tell somebody how to pick up a fucking table, man. Like, it's a pick up, move through door, place on grass. High five, high five. I don't even have to high five at that point.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I would high five you. For lifting a table and bringing it outside. Not like good, no, like it's a, you wouldn't high five me if you lifted up a table? How heavy's the table? Like decent. All right. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:34:49 If it's a heavy table, you know what? I don't want you a little bit. I don't want your high five. That table didn't look that heavy. Fuck your high five. I don't want you. I don't want your high five. But the episode ends,
Starting point is 00:34:58 Alex out of nowhere, like out of left field just goes, Jordan, you're looking thick today. And while they're sitting up dinner, I was like, whoa. And Jordan had the same reaction.
Starting point is 00:35:05 She's like, I don't know if I am being objectified or complimented. And objectimented was birthed. And I love that word. I love creating words. I love creating words. I love the word objectimented.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And I will object toment you at some point tonight. I'm going to try. I'm going to think of something to object toment you. So just be ready. The last thing that we get from the episode is Shanice walking out onto the balcony as a big final fuck you de bria because she walks out there topless with a glass of rosé and everyone's sitting at the table waiting for her to come down.
Starting point is 00:35:37 She walks out to the balcony, looks down on everybody and says, I'm on my way with out of top on, which is the most certified fuck you to bria. Like, I don't care about your rules. I know you keep trying to make a big deal out of this. here's my response. And this is going to be a fun summer. And to those of you that are listening, if you are not watching this show,
Starting point is 00:35:57 we do highly recommend it. We have been two for two on show recommendations. One for two. I don't think people watch Real Girl Friends of Paris. No, but it was a good show. It was a good show, objectively speaking. Two for two on picking out good shows, one for two on successful shows.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yes, there we go. That works. Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom. A big news to share it, right? Yes, huge. environmental, earth-shaking. Heartbeat sound effect, big.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Mait is back. That's right. After a brief snack nap. We're coming back. We're picking snacks. We're eating snacks. We're raiding snacks. Like the snackologist we were born to be.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Mates is back. Mike and Tom, eat snacks. Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. Check it out. enjoy it. But that takes us to Hot Lana, and I need to preface this segment with a little something something.
Starting point is 00:37:02 We're getting a lot of comments on YouTube specifically about our lack of knowledge on previous. Goodbye summer movies, hello fall. I'm Anthony Devaney. And I'm his twin brother, James. We host Raiders of the Lost Podcast, the ultimate movie podcast. and we are ecstatic to break down late summer and early fall releases. We have Leonardo DiCaprio leading a revolution in one battle after another,
Starting point is 00:37:27 Timothy Salome playing power ping pong in Marty Supreme. Let's not forget Emma Stone and Jorgos Lanthamos' Bagonia. Dwayne Johnson's coming for that Oscar in The Smashing Machine, Spike Lee and Denzel teaming up again, plus Daniel DeLuis's return from retirement. There will be plenty of blockbusters to chat about, too. Tron Ares looks exceptional, plus Mortal Kombat 2, and Edgar writes, The Running Man starring Glenn Powell. Search for Raiders of the Lost podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Atlanta seasons. Now, for those of you that have listened to us for a while, we approach every single show the same exact way. The only shows that I had background on prior to starting the podcast were Vanderpump and Roney. The only shows that Shooter have are what, Summer House and Jersey. Summer House and Jersey. We watched every single show. brand new fresh we didn't go back and watch a ton of seasons we would go back and watch things
Starting point is 00:38:20 if we heard about you guys saying it in the comments we'd go check things out but this is part of the schick this is how we started the podcast it's us giving you our candid off-the-cuff takes of new shows we haven't seen before we will get there eventually we will get to the point where we know everybody we know the histories we know all the stuff we need to know due to our real life jobs due to that we can not we simply don't have the time i also think that the points that people are making are well this is just like what happened in season four between this person and this person it's like if we want to sit here for three and a half hours we can talk about those things but we talk about things in the present if there's something that happened a
Starting point is 00:38:59 couple of weeks ago or maybe at the end of last season that is relevant we'll bring it up but i'm not going to go digging into the archives to make a point unless it's a very serious point and a lot of the stuff that we talk about while it's important in the moment is a little and inocuous. We're just giving you our takes on it. So, shut up. Honestly. Most of, most of the people listening right now enjoy us anyway. So I don't really care. You guys, I love you guys. You guys. You guys are great. Just keep doing what you're doing. To those naysayers, shh. Just, just shh. Just throw it down. Yeah. But it's almost as though Bravo knew because they started out this episode. I actually let out an audible ha when I started this episode because it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:41 previously on Atlanta. It's like, 2011. And I was like, oh, shit. Just do this all the time. You know, do this every week.
Starting point is 00:39:49 It will be caught up. People stop yelling at us in the comments. But it was actually really helpful because it did give me background. That was the biggest, the biggest issue seems to be your infatuation with Marlowe
Starting point is 00:39:59 because everyone's like, if you knew what Marlowe and Candy do to each other, you would have a different opinion. We finally get to see back and like, see some of the shit they've gone through. And yeah, it's pretty tumultuous, but I can guarantee you one thing. That will not shake Shooter from liking Marl.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Yeah, it's not going to change it. If anything, it's going to make me like her more. So stop. So we get the fact that back in 2011, Candy Question Marl about where she gets her money from. And this has been an ongoing thing. There's rumors about her being a high-paid escort. There's rumors about her being accompanying older men and getting paid for it.
Starting point is 00:40:37 There's a lot of rumors out there. We don't really know. That I do know. We don't really know. That much I'm aware of. 2017 comes around. And now we got Marlowe asking Candy if she's a lesbian. But we also got a good moment Marlowe's talking about her.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Her nephew is coming to live with her and Kenny's supportive of that. Flash to 2020. And this is why they showed this segment was to tee it up with Quentin. And in 2020, it shows the interactions that they had together on how it was handled after Quentin was shot. and from what I saw and reading the text, I thought how candy handled it was sufficient. I actually agree.
Starting point is 00:41:17 It's really funny. You could see me going the opposite direction on this one, but I was a couple of weeks ago. They showed a little snippet, and I was on Marlowe's side. But after getting the full breakdown, not even of the past, not even 2011, 2017, so on and so forth,
Starting point is 00:41:32 just that little clip, which was a little longer than we got a few weeks ago, I was on Candy's side. I thought she handled it fine. Yes, he worked for me. He wasn't currently working for me. That was a COVID. Big omission a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:41:45 That's huge to know. No, she has no idea who he is. Oh, that sucks. I'm really sorry. Okay, whatever. Brings it back up. I thought it looked like Candy just completely washed over the text message, didn't realize what was going on.
Starting point is 00:41:57 No, she was letting Marlowe talk. Yeah. Get through everything. And then again said, that really sucks. I'm sorry. So I was fully on Candy's side after all of. that. And then I was looking deeper into what Marlowe was trying to get out of the conversation. And I fully agree. She was just trying to get something out of candy. She felt like she owed her
Starting point is 00:42:16 something because this man, her nephew, worked for, it's a cousin. It's her cousin. No, it's her nephew. Because Quentin worked for candy. So she wanted a little bit more out of candy, maybe flowers or whatever that we hear later in the episode. She keeps going back to flowers. It doesn't really make any I thought Candy handled it fine. Do I have an issue? Now, we both can be correct. I thought she handled it fine, but I also do know that Candy dodges questions that might be harmful to her.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Right, but it became very clear to me watching this, that this was an avenue for Marlow to try to bring light to that specifically. It was just, yeah, it was a way for her to do that. I don't know, because she keeps saying, like, I didn't even know that I was so upset about it still. And I'm not saying that she can't still have feelings about it. I'm not saying that she can address those feelings in a conversation with Candy, but how she goes about it is going to everybody else and trying to throw Candy into the bus and trying to rally them
Starting point is 00:43:13 against Candy and force her to talk about her shit more. And look, should she talk about things on camera? Absolutely. Is this a good example? I don't think so. That's where I kind of battle between the two, because first off, by the way, we were told that we don't watch this show. I'm not sure if everybody listened to this, but I think after the second episode, but Steele and I called that this entire season was going to be about Marlowe and Candy with Quentin in the middle and the shooting. We called that, and it is.
Starting point is 00:43:40 They wouldn't have brought us all the way back to 2010 and all this bullshit if this wasn't going to be the focal point of the season, which it's going to be. So suck it. Everybody who said, we don't know what we're talking about. We know everything. Just kidding. We know trends. We understand how trends work in these shows.
Starting point is 00:43:56 But no, I kind of understand. I know, we all know what she's going after. She just wants Candy to be held responsible for the things that affect her life that she doesn't want to talk about. Marlowe has to deal with that all the time that we get to see later in the episode. Everybody just brings up Marlowe's past all the time,
Starting point is 00:44:13 but if you try to bring up Candy's past, God forbid. So she's not wrong. I just think she's going about it the wrong way, but I understand what she's trying to do. So, yes, I can agree, hand up. Marlowe is wrong in this instance for her actions, but what she wants isn't really that drastic. No, but I agree with you there, too.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I do agree that even in the few episodes I've seen, that's, that comes up every time. Every single time that Marlowe tries to do anything good, bad, or otherwise, it does seem like the topic of conversation eventually we'll get to, well, yeah, remember when she slashed that girl's face? It's like, it's without fail. So I understand. She can't hide from it. It's as if anything that she does when she's trying to go after anyone for the right reasons, even. that's what's going to be brought up. And it's just, it's tiring already.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And we haven't watched all these seasons. Yeah. Yeah. But let's dive into the episode. Up first, it's a scene with Marlowe. And she's explaining why she's upset with Drew. And she's, this is where I'm like, all right, Marl, well, that's not really what happened.
Starting point is 00:45:18 She's like, Drew wouldn't let me talk. It's like, well, I mean, you kind of were both talking over one another. I don't know if she wasn't letting you talk. But you definitely got your words in when he stood up and screamed in her face and stormed out. But this is where she brings up, like, the condolences. again. And we obviously just touched on it, but she's just upset about the fact that there were no flowers and that candy ignored the whole thing entirely. And sometimes you just have to act like
Starting point is 00:45:39 mature adults, which was a funny comment coming from Marlo. Because there's many things I can call Marlo, mature probably wouldn't be the word I would use. Yeah. But moving forward, Sonia's at her house and she's with her family and we get kind of the fallout of the conversation that we saw previously where Ross is ready for mom and sister to move out of the house. And we also saw, the sister not take that very well the mom seems to get it it goes to a confession with the mom she's like look was i taken aback a little bit yeah but at the same time like i do feel like it's time for me to spread my wings and like sail off into the sunset and enjoy my life right so she understands where she's coming from the sister is steadfast on you guys can't handle this about us now the vibe i get
Starting point is 00:46:22 from sonya i don't think she wants them to leave i think this is a ross centric move i think he's like I'm ready for them to get out. What I thought was interesting is the sister brings up the fact that I don't think Ross knows what we do here. And I don't know. I think that she might be right because Ross isn't there. I think she's right too. And we touched on it last episode where we got a little more insight into what happens.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And Sonia talks about, I think, in this episode too, how she's on the road a lot. She might be in L.A. on Friday, New York on Sunday, Miami the next day. She's all over the place. Ross is back and forth between Austin and home, I believe. and the sister and mom kind of hold down the fort. It's nice that my kids can wake up in the morning and still be with family. Totally. And I fully understand that.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And I agree with you entirely. I really don't think that Ross understands what they might be losing by having them both move out of the house. Yes, he wants his peace and quiet. Yes, he wants to feel like it's his house and not Sonia and her family's house, which I also understand. But he needs to weigh the pros and cons of what he might be losing. Now, look, do I think they're wealthy enough to pay a now? to stay with them, absolutely they could do that. It's not family, but you might be able to get what you lose when you have the family
Starting point is 00:47:34 kind of move out, and maybe it was a transition period, whatever. He could also just be doing a tactic, which is, hey, I want to start talking about this now, and I know that this is going to be mold over for the next six to eight months. So let's just kind of do this right now rather than me do it when I'm actually ready, and then all of a sudden it's six to eight months later, and I'm losing my mind. Okay. I am trying to get ahead of this, which I, look, as a guy, I can understand. that because I've done that a couple different times.
Starting point is 00:48:00 So not this exact instance, but I understand how that works. So it really is... Shooter is known to set up breakups eight months into a chance. Yeah, pretty much, honestly. Hey, we're dating, no, actually, six to eight months, not going to work for me. But no, I mean, more than anything, I just enjoy getting insight into the families and how they work. And we get a lot of that on Atlanta between the spouses and just overall families.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I mean, with Sonia's is great. And we get to kind of overanalyze these types. of things. But this is such a nice break from the other things that are going on. And that's why I feel like Atlanta is such a good, well-rounded household. And I understand that people think that this is a down year. But we're still having a great time. This is what we needed after Scandval, after Beverly Hills, after some really heavy shit. I needed some family moments. I needed some just light-hearted drama of the sister and the mom moving out of the house and like causing a little bit of a stir at home. Like that, to me, is a nice little reprieve. And we need to
Starting point is 00:48:57 our reprieves here at the brav bros but the next scene's with kenya more and she's opening up her hair care salon and i can't see it because it's all like ripped out to the studs but the space is amazing the ceilings are they give you the rent they give you the rendering right but i'm just saying like when she's standing there talking about it i'm like oh i could see it and it looks amazing in my head any other renderings you're dick but um well i can't visualize those types of things like when somebody gives me an empty room and says here i'm going to put this here i'm going to put this here. I can see this and I'm like, can't see shit, but good luck for you. Oh, see, I
Starting point is 00:49:30 can. Okay. So she was paying him. I need to start talking to you more. No, you don't. We talk way too much already as it is. They're hitting you up. And he moved it close to him. Like, you're too close. I need to get some art, so I'm going to hit you up in a little bit. You can probably help you with that. I can help you with that. I like helping people. For those of you who think that we're at odds
Starting point is 00:49:48 and we start yelling at each other, no. Somebody did send us a message saying they were genuinely concerned after you after one of my rants. They're like, I just want to Make sure shooter's okay. I was like, he's fine. We've been doing this for 17 years. Like I said before, we pick up on patterns, and I'm picking up on patterns with Kenya. Her word choice is very specific with how she talks about people.
Starting point is 00:50:08 She's talking about Marlowe, because she's talking about Marlowe and what went down in Birmingham, and she said she attacked my child. Yep. She attacked my child. If I say that to you, somebody attacked Poppy. What do you picture? An actual attack. An actual attack. Who else describes things as she.
Starting point is 00:50:25 She attacked me. Drew? Mm-hmm. Same exact thing. Marlowe yelling at me and getting overly emotional. She attacked me. She said attacked so many times. He says aggressive, so many times.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Aggressive attacked. And then you have Kenya also saying attacked in relation to what Marlowe and Drew were doing. Now she's saying attacked over here with what Marlowe was doing at the door. Maybe she attacked the door. She may have attacked Monietta with a door. Yeah, she did attack Monietta with the door.
Starting point is 00:50:52 That's a possibility. I'll take that. But this was not an attack of your child. It's just, the drama is, you can kind of just gloss over it because it doesn't really. But those words, I mean, they're trigger words. Those are important. Especially when you're talking to somebody who wasn't there. If you're talking to somebody who was there and you say, oh, yeah, she was trying to attack.
Starting point is 00:51:09 No, they'll shut you down right away and be like, no, she was just trying to kick your door, get you to wake up and come out so we can get some goddamn answers. If you're telling somebody who wasn't there, what are they going to think? They're going to think that Marlow broke down the door and went after your child. Yeah, tried to attack your kid. But I've noticed that it's a theme. She continues to use certain words. words. And let's be honest, like, those are loaded words. Like, you can't say that willy-nilly. It paints a pretty bad picture. So I don't like that about Kenya. I told you I've had a crush on Kenya since dancing with the stars. But, like, I don't vibe with that. I don't like that at all. She says, you know, Marlowe plays the victim. And then she instantly brings up what? Yeah. The felony of her cutting somebody's face. And with the Marlowe candy Kenya thing, Marlowe seems to be at odds with multiple women. I'm curious what's going to take center stage.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I am with you. I think that the shooting and Marlowe and Candy is going to be the focal point of the season. But it's almost like there's a backup or it's like, oh, if you need to, we can pivot to Kenya. It just seems like what's happening is the other friends of Candy essentially with Kenya being the forefront are understanding that Marlowe's going after Candy. So they're kind of immediately putting themselves behind Candy and putting themselves in the front lines to go against Marlowe. and then we see Marlowe kind of drumming up a little bit of support from other people. Yes, you know, you get Courtney's support.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Does that really matter a whole lot? No. You can kind of see teams being formed and I know it's kind of a tiring thing that we talk about in these shows, but it's important for something like this because we don't get one person just kind of going after a full group or going after the ringleader. We get an actual well-balanced fight. And I hope that we get that. I think that there's some makings in here that we might be able to see.
Starting point is 00:52:52 but you know time will tell time will tell but the next scene is with churay at her house and i loved this scene with her son and her grandchild and it was just so heartwarming and like she's so proud of her son like he's such a good dad he's involved like the handprint on the thing made me tear up because poppy's here and i was like oh my god big soft she has an ornament with her handprint on it like every loved child in the world yeah you know it's mine too a whole thing it was a beautiful scene and it just i need these i need these in between the shit and i wish that bravo would put more of it in they've done a good job of it with atlanta we get these scenes martha's vineyard did a good job of it we get these scenes of like not just
Starting point is 00:53:42 chaos like right i don't know when bravo decided that we're just going to make everything dark and dramatic and upsetting like it's all so serious all the time like i want to see these people have hearts too not just like pitchforks like fuck's sake but we get a quick check in with candy and todd and he's working on the movie still candy facetimes with kenya and they're talking about the shooting conversation again and kenya finally explains to candy like exactly what the issue that Marlowe has and it comes back to like flowers and condolences she says that you didn't care enough that Quentin was shot can you replies like he worked for me he didn't work for me at the time it wasn't like he was my employee that came into work went home and got killed he hadn't been
Starting point is 00:54:33 employed there for months because of COVID so like that's where I was like oh well that that that does make a big difference well and Kenya also slips in a detail that was not mentioned at all by Marlowe's side, saying that I think it was something that happened between two employees that worked with you, and there was the other guy, the perpetrator, who shot Quentin, she implies that the perpetrator was an employee
Starting point is 00:54:55 of Candies as well. Which Marlowe never said. Not once did she say that. She always steadfast on, it was his roommate. It was his roommate. It had nothing to do with Candy. It was a patron of the restaurant. Yeah, sure, whatever. I'm a patron of Buffalo Wild Wings. Doesn't mean I fucking work there, Kenya. But
Starting point is 00:55:10 You eat a lot of B-dubs? I don't know. I just, it was the first restaurant that I could think of. I don't know why. But slipping in little details. Now, whether or not I think it was malicious, if she wanted to kind of stir candy up, or if it was just a slip of the tongue. Of course it was. You wanted to stir candy? That's
Starting point is 00:55:27 where I was leaning, but I'm trying to be unbiased here. What I can pinpoint about this crew thus far is like, when there's an opportunity to stir the pot, stoke the flame a little bit, they take those opportunities and they, like you said, it's little comments, it's little
Starting point is 00:55:43 details it's little notes like oh yeah like two employees like oh no that's not what was said but a little shift in the narrative now you cause a lot more shit than actually saying what happened right and you don't have to do the dirty work because you're saying that you heard it in passing so you don't really know the story but you can kind of slide in what you want to slide in I think that was 100% intentional and I think the funny thing also is this whole thing especially with like marlo and drew happened three weeks ago yeah a lot of times we like to talk about timelines here we're not really sure when it happened. But if you remember, Candy was not in Birmingham. That was really the only thing that happened in between that episode and the episode with Drew and Marlowe. So Marlowe and Candy
Starting point is 00:56:20 haven't seen each other. In this type of show, I always expect, obviously somebody that has history like Marlowe and Candy do, that they want to talk about it immediately, which it seems like Marlowe does. As soon as they get to that, I keep wanting to call it laser tag, defuse the bomb or drop the bomb or whatever, it's so much thing. It looked awesome. I've never heard of that, but I want to do it. No, I want to do it too, but you get to see that Marlowe immediately goes over and starts talking to her because she wants to try to not squash it, but address it. No, she wants to cause a scene because she invites Drew over to her. Either way, she still wants to address it because she doesn't, three weeks have passed.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Multiple people have talked to Candy about what's going on. Multiple people have talked inside of each other. Ugh. Didn't mean to say that. What the fuck? Within their own group, I guess is probably where I was going with that one. but derailed good we got to regroup no i Jesus it's fine multiple people have talked within the group pertaining to candy in Kenya about the
Starting point is 00:57:20 situation and a new detail has shown up every single time they're trying to turn the story into something that makes it way more outlandish than what it was now obviously at the core it's a little weird to begin with yeah she would expect flowers and condolences whatever when she got and i'm sorry you talked to her twice about it through text, in person, whatever. But I think that she wanted to address it as soon as she possibly could. And when you go three weeks without seeing somebody on a show that you're currently filming, it is a little weird, but you know behind the scenes that these things are being talked
Starting point is 00:57:51 about and they're being spun and they're being changed. So I understand why she wanted to talk to her immediately. Yes, she did want to stir up some shit. But you got to talk to her face to face at that point. You can't let it go any further. Especially on the camera because timing's important. Yeah. So I agree with you there.
Starting point is 00:58:05 But it comes down to the receipts as well. like candy breaks out her phone when they go out in the parking lot and when candy's reading through the texts like the next day or a couple days after she had texted her about quinton she's texting candy yams by the way she's using nicknames in both texts even about the quentin text she entered it with candy yams then two days later she texted her about cameo yeah like how do you say like if you haven't signed up yet sign up by the way plug the bros are on cameo to yourselves a favor are get us a cameo use our code yeah they don't have a code but you can get a cameo for a But anyway, she doesn't seem that upset about the whole thing. And that's where I really was like, okay, because up until that I'm still being sympathetic to the fact that, you know, and I will always be sympathetic to the fact that she did lose Quentin, like he was shot and killed. That is super sad. And there is a very good chance that she hasn't processed it entirely.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I'm not saying that either. She could still be going through it and maybe something was unlocked or she's like, wow, I still haven't gotten over this. I'm not saying that that can't happen. Yeah, I think we were giving her the benefit of the doubt thinking that a new shooting happening at Candy's restaurant kind of drummed up some old feelings and that's where she was coming from.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Sure. But now it is 100% clear that the only reason she's bringing this up is to try to take it. Yeah, because you look at the conversations they've had. You look at the fact that they've had good moments since then
Starting point is 00:59:22 where they seem like everything's okay. So the timing of it is suspect to say the least. But inside of the restaurant, the funniest thing is because you pointed out how Courtney says hi to people, it's all I hear now.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Do you see what I wrote? Hey! I wrote hay with WISE, and they get bigger as it goes, because that's how she says hi to people, and it is super annoying. More annoying person. Courtney or the bartender that kept coming over? Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I'm taking a shot with them yet. How about the fact that Sonia said she never took a shot before? Yeah, that was interesting. Like, really? Ever? Olympic athlete. That's my point. You win a gold medal, and you're not going to go rip a shot afterwards.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I could be the alcoholic at me talking, but that seems like the best moment, the best moment. The best moment in the world to take a shot. No, I feel like if anybody probably hasn't taken a shot, it's probably an Olympic athlete. No, it does. I mean, that, I guess, makes sense. But it's just at the same time, like, you've never taken a shot.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Yeah, she's a few years removed from it, so you would think maybe. It's a shot. Especially she's on a housewife show. Don't they do shots at the end of her unions? Has she been on Watch What Happens live? Does she not done the shots? Maybe she hasn't. Maybe she hasn't.
Starting point is 01:00:27 So, I got, we're going to talk about that. We're going to yell that again. But the Marlow-Drew and Candy conversation, why? this is where I'm like, all right, Marlowe just wants to call. Why is Drew there? Why are you there? Is that what you were going to say? Yes. Okay. All right, cool. No, that's literally like what I was saying. Makes no sense. It makes absolutely no sense. And the only thing we see Drew do is start to interrupt and try to insert herself in the conversation. It's like, no, no, they're doing okay. They're not doing great, but they are hashing something out. You're just like interrupting the flow of whatever's going on, which is only going to make things worse and exacerbate things. So you need to settle down, let these two get after. is a big baby she's just she's a big baby she talks a big game and then as soon as she's confronted with something she backs down and starts cowering she does you could see that and you could see marlow
Starting point is 01:01:14 and candy we're getting into it drew's just kind of like cowering away and like shifting away you said a lot of this shit a lot of the reason why there's so much animosity at this point is because you won't shut the hell up about it you've been talking about it for three weeks to anybody that'll listen because you have nothing else going on in your life stop talking but on the flip side you see Mnietta ready to jump from the table to go over to Candy's defense. Yeah. And everyone needs to stay out of it. Marlowe and Candy need to hash this thing out.
Starting point is 01:01:42 They need to get to the bottom of whatever the fuck it is. Yeah, I get it. I think that it would have worked, honestly, for the narrative of Marlowe if Candy did pop off. Because then all of a sudden, you can't bring up 23 years ago, me slashing a girl in the face. Yeah, but you just tried to punch me tonight. She didn't, though. And that's what Candy recognizes, like, as she's walking out, she's like, I can't can't be around her. She brings out this, like, bad person that she brings out a person I don't
Starting point is 01:02:06 really want to be. And look, in this scenario, I'm team candy. I'm team candy definitely. And I like Marlow, and I'm sure I'll get shit for that. I'm team. Figure it the hell out. Figure it out or just and stay the hell away, Drew. You know what? I am. I'm team just, just move on. Just don't talk to each other anymore. I don't, I'm not actually ready, which is kind of funny because we talk about this a lot, but I'm really not really, I'm not ready to move on. There's not even a hint of a resolution. There's not even a hint of anything deeper because we've been watching people talk about it for weeks and weeks. We're finally seeing the two people that are involved actually discuss it. Yes, did it get heated? Yes, did people start to freak out. Yes, was there almost blows to be
Starting point is 01:02:45 had. Yes, Marlowe did keep her hands behind her back the entire time, which I love. But she was also throwing elbows. Well, it's okay. She got her hands by her back with elbows. But it's not the same thing. Sharpen up those bows and get the paint and just start jabbing away, you know? She's throwing bows, dude. That's fine. I'm saying. You clear a pack. athway. Just saying she's throwing bows. I get it. I get it. But we're finally seeing them actually discuss it and we're seeing the two of them face off, get emotional. Maybe we'll actually get a real reason as to why Marlow has this vendetta against Candy. It can't just be that Candy never gets to talk about everything. Yes, maybe if you boil it down, it comes down
Starting point is 01:03:20 to my past gets brought up all the time. Candy never has to talk about anything that actually implicates her with anything negative ever. I think that might be genuine, that might be it, but I I'm assuming there's a little bit more. I just want a little bit more. I'm okay to move on in like a week or two. Right now, I think it's too fresh and we're actually getting some actions. When I say move on, I don't say move on. I'm tired of this.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I say move on like you two just don't see eye to eye. You haven't seen nine to eye. I don't think you're going to come to terms. Like just move on. I don't think they'll come to terms either. I just want to get a little more information. No, no. Never mind.
Starting point is 01:03:54 We agree. We agree. Okay, cool. Yay. No, stop. But that's where we get the. the receipts from Candy Spone. We already talked about it. But the interesting thing here is while they're outside, Drew gets real tough when there's no one there to be tough too.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Yep. She's outside saying that she's ready for it. She's ready to go, whatever. She's also calling Marlowe a ho trick, which is going to get back to her. And I can't imagine that's going to go over well, especially considering there's already rumors about her out there. So now Drew's out in the parking lot talking shit about Marlowe for no real like Drew again you're not really involved like that moment that you had with Marlowe can be
Starting point is 01:04:35 chalked up to a Marlowe got triggered because of this and popped off like it can be simply that instead you're turning it into a storyline honestly think about that moment too Drew didn't sympathize with Marlowe at all she also didn't ask her to elaborate she just kept spinning this
Starting point is 01:04:51 what are you talking about I don't even know what's going on I have no idea you don't say shooting in Chicago We don't say shooting and, like, everybody, shut up, everybody, everybody on the cast was like, that's not a thing. Yeah, no. That's not a thing, like, Drew's perpetuating something that's just simply not true.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Yeah. Which she's done multiple times and doubled down and tripled down. And, you know, we don't know. We're not from Chicago, but all these women seem to think that, like, that's not a real thing that people don't say shooting because it perpetuates more shootings. Yeah, I mean, I don't think so. And the last thing I want to point out
Starting point is 01:05:25 and just kind of ties into Drew spouting off whatever the fuck she wants. Kenny is out there as well, again, using certain words. She was aggressive. Drew used the same thing. She was aggressive? Look, was she throwing some bows?
Starting point is 01:05:37 Yeah, she wasn't actually throwing elbows. She was just walking with the elbows out, bumping into some people. I don't think it's fair to call anybody aggressive when everybody's getting into it a little bit. We've seen this a thousand times on a thousand different shows. Things get escalated.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Things get emotional. aggressive is not the right word to use it's just an emotional moment it's an argument but overall for me again like i enjoyed this episode i thought it was good tv i thought we had some some wholesome moments i really enjoyed we had some good fights we had some good banter some good back and forth and we got drama we've got a storyline in the making that we're intrigued with like all this stuff is stuff that we look for in a show now is it not as good as the previous seasons maybe maybe it's a good season for us yeah it's a good season for us one and two guess what every show that we've watched we've had a lot of people say oh if you'd watch this show back when it started it was great i'm sure it was we didn't start this up against the other shows that have aired in the last season right now this is probably the best housewives franchise that's what we think it has to be jersey was a dud
Starting point is 01:06:42 beverly hills was a dud dud dud and it was 60 episodes salt lake city sucked horrible so if you're going to sit here and tell me that watching this show has been less enjoyable than those shows, maybe in comparison to previous Atlanta seasons. Okay, I'll give you that. We don't know. But as far as what we've seen over the past year and a half, this is the cream of the crop. It's great. It's a fucking good show. So just enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Enjoy it and leave us alone. We're just trying to watch a fucking TV show and talk about it. And talk about it. And our comments are running rampant. But anyway, that's all we got for this week. Let's get to the questions. From Andre Drew 1, if Marlowe brought up the issue with Candy earlier and off-camera, would it be an issue? Um, hmm.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Maybe. I don't think so, honestly. I think the way that Candy operates, she'd rather things like this not show up on TV. Correct. So I think they may have handled it in some sort of way. I don't think there would be a resolution still. Oh, see, I disagree. think that she would resolve the issue i don't know if there's that's the thing like what do you
Starting point is 01:07:56 resolve i don't think there's i think that it's hard to say that because i don't think there's a an area to be resolved in my opinion i think she did enough but i think she would have gotten more out of her well i think they're conflicting agendas here where marlowe does want candy to talk about things on camera right right and candy does not so yes maybe they would have gotten somewhere but i still think the marlowe would have brought it up on camera yeah so Andre, I think that the biggest point to focus on here is that it was only brought up on camera for Marlowe
Starting point is 01:08:25 to use. I don't think Marlowe is actually as upset about it as it appears. From Isaac R. King, your opinion on Shiree this season. I like Shiree. Yeah, I think Sherey's nice. She's like middle of the road, kind of gets along with everybody, Sands
Starting point is 01:08:45 Drew, and we're not getting a whole lot of information about her fashion line and I feel like that's been a focal point for the last couple of seasons so it's nice to see her on a clean slate and just kind of move it on yeah I agree and like do I know that she gets into it with other ladies I know that she's not clean all the time but for right now she seems to be riding this line between marlowe Kenya candy and just letting those three cause the problems and then you get like the randos in there Courtney and drew who are just kind of running around stirring this giant pot which is interesting and again good fucking tv do we answer
Starting point is 01:09:23 your question i don't know i think so oh all right i'll ask this one to you from jens swara 76 whose side are you on marlowe or candy kenya you specifically me specifically oh god really pulling it i i right now after that episode i'm on candy side not kenya side Kenny doesn't really count because she's not actually involved. She's just talking. I'm on Candy's side right now. Well, I mean, Kenya has her own issues with Marlowe. Yeah, but it's irrelevant to the situation, I think.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Okay, so between, all right, let me break it down. Candy versus Marlowe, your team Candy. Yes. Kenya versus Marlowe. Marlowe. All day. True to the Marlostan. And the last one from Coconut.
Starting point is 01:10:11 So thanks for calling out Courtney screams. She's very extra when the camera rolls. Yeah. A lot of question. The funny thing is, I don't think that she's extra when the camera rolls. I bet you she's like that all the time. Oh, without a thousand percent. Yes, I get that.
Starting point is 01:10:25 We can smell a camera person a mile away at this point. Totally. She's not. She's not. She's not like that. And you know what? Credit to her. Man, true to herself.
Starting point is 01:10:34 At least she's true to herself. So is it annoying? Yes. Do I give her props for continuing to be her? 1,000%. Oh, yeah. But that's all we got this week. remember to buy tickets to our live show July 26th in New York City at the City
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