Bros & Shows - Brittany Goes IN, JAX IS OUT and Jason Gets Inked (The Valley Full Recap)

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

What's up Bros? The Valley is back on track and this episode was crucial. Brittany finally has moved on from Jax it seems and she goes in on him. Jason and Janet get tattoos to prove the ring rumor was just a rumor? But also by getting the ring tatted begs more questions? Not to mention everytime you look at your ring finger... youll be reminded of Doute. Thats funny. Doute and Luke continue to navigate getting pregnant. Danny and Nia go house hunting and Jasmine says she's trying to move on from things and Janet keeps bringing it back up. Brittany says everything to Jax that we needed to hear. She doesn't back down and she did a fantastic job. No notes. AND JAX IS NOT COMING BACK! SEE YA LOSER! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The twisted tale of Amanda Knox is now streaming only on Disney Plus. After that episode, I feel like the Valley's back on track a little bit. Yeah, I feel like this was a set-up episode, but really, the news that came from the Valley is not in the show, and boy, are we happy. It's the best news ever. Bros and Shows, Bros and Shows, Brows and Shows, I got to have me now, Bros and Shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows.

I'm your co-host, Steel Russell, joined, as always, by the one and only, Mr. McGillicuddy. What's up, Magoots? Smell you later, Jacks. See ya. Wow. What a loser. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, pal. Well, look, did Bravo make the right call on first?

fire him or did he really step away to focus on himself? Oh, get fucked. Bravo made the right decision for once when it comes to not bringing back a problematic individual. Because here's the thing, everybody. We can't what do we always do?

Well, when somebody leaves... Back the wrong guy? No, no, no, no. When Bravo, when somebody sticks around, we always blame Bravo for not getting rid of them, right? So in turn, we do have to give them credit for getting rid of somebody we didn't like.

That's true. That's just how it goes. So Bravo, well done. Finally, you made the right decision and that big bag of douche is out of here. See you later. It's really funny that this news dropped today because I had a crazy hot take. What? My crazy hot take was going to be they need to get rid of Janet before they get rid of Jacks.

The sad thing is you could almost argue that if it wasn't for like watching abuse on TV. Yeah, yeah. it was really just to really let it sink in get janet out of here too but you know beggars can't be choosers no we'll take it we will take it i'm glad i think that the landscape of the show is going to improve drastically i think that we needed today's episode in a lot of ways because you know it was a good episode for brittany and i thought that she had herself well at the end and we also had the beginning of addressing the Janet shit with Brittany via Doty and obviously we get the scenes from later and Zach's going to get involved in that as well but I feel like we needed this episode and now we're able to move forward with a jacksless show everyone's had their chance to kind of vent their frustrations and then next season I do think we're going to see a lot of people flourish because all that Jacks does is bring us back to a familiar place and we don't have any progression with this show right we need to be able to move on to different stories. lines, the different phases of life. And I feel like because Jacks is such a giant man baby,

it just reverts back to chaos and shit when he's around. And this is a chance for people to blossom a little bit. Yeah, I think the season kind of went through it too, because I don't want to go as far to say that this is a rewatchable season by any means. But it's an important season because there are important things that have happened throughout the season. Obviously, we don't want to rewatch the first four or five episodes, whatever it was that Jacks was going through and just abusing Britney on screen because for whatever reason they were okay with watching or letting that slide and letting that be projected on our TV screens. I don't know why. But there were important things that happened throughout this season. Doty getting, you know, engaged. Doty getting engaged. An incredible thing. And honestly, the turning point was Jack's going away. Like, yeah, we still bitched about the little scenes where we got like the Blair Witch project from his hotel room. And otherwise, he wasn't really there to impact too much. Now, he still impacts Brittany, which I'm a little scared about moving forward, even though he's not going to be on the show. I mean, do we think it's going to be, I guess if Bravo fired him, it's not going to happen this way?

But is it going to be another rehab stint where he's there for 11 days and then he comes back to the Valley? If it was something where, you know, they had some sort of handshake deal, like, all right, you're going to be off for now, work on yourself and then you can come back. Because I'm worried about that, too, moving forward to season four, where it's, you know, all right, yeah, we want to see that you've actually changed. We want to see that you're not impacting Brittany. But this is kind of prime for Britney's going to have a whole storyline. And I don't know if she will, just based off of the way that she's been moving with the divorce. Yeah. She talks about dating other guys pretty quickly.

It seems like if Jack simply isn't around, maybe there's going to be like a restraining order or something coming in the works. I don't know how that's going to work out. But Brittany next year could be the entire storyline is Jacks is abusing me. Jacks is reaching out to me. he's texting me constantly he's doing all of these things and then it's like all right you might have to get brittany off the show because jacks isn't going to leave her alone if brittany's still in the show and i think that's something that producers are going to have to sit down and talk about yeah i'm not high on these producers at all no obviously i've said my piece about

alex bagskin and jeremiah penis nose yep there we go yeah like that uh but bag skin gross it actually sounded worse than I thought it was pretty bad it's pretty bad but it's you know it's okay it's applicable for him yeah I agree but I I would love to say that because we're getting rid of jacks this season because of a million different reasons one the problematic behavior on TV two we've all been calling for his head except for a couple random podcasts that stand for him which is fucking bizarre, but I don't think that if you have any sense about you, that you would even consider it, because the whole point of getting rid of him is to remove him from the show, remove him focus, and point the show in a different direction. If you allow him to leave,

I'm sure you have to sit down with Britain and say, hey, I know that your real life involves dealing with Jacks, but at least for the first half of the season, like we just try not to talk about him, something like that, which isn't totally fair, but at the same time, that's the only way, I don't want Brittany to get penalized because Jacks got kicked off. No, not necessarily. There is that overshadowing of, is he still going to be a major presence because Brittany can't move forward? Yeah. So if you're going to keep Brittany on the show, it's almost like you're not really getting rid of Jacks. Right.

So it's going to be more like, you know, we won't have those little video diaries, but we're still going to hear Brittany, you know, talk to Kristen, talk to Janet, talk to Michelle. If Michelle's still there, who knows what they're going to do with the cast moving forward. I do wish that they had this news a little bit earlier because I do think we would have looked at now obviously the first three or four episodes are deplorable but I think we would have looked at the rest of the season a little differently we would have been happy when he popped up because you can just make fun of him

correct you're not on the show anymore and especially when he goes and talks to Zach and says this is my show we can all openly laugh because he's not even on the show anymore now we have to do it in retrospect and it's like okay yeah all right I guess so but I wish that they had done that because I think we would have looked at this season

as a whole a little differently because we were still worried that Jax was going to be pulling the strings that Jax was going to be on the show moving forward. Now at least we have the finale and we've got the reunion to look forward to where we can all laugh at him because he's not on the show anymore.

I agree. So I'm excited for the future of this show and I will say we hit that lull, that rut in the middle. It wasn't even a lull. It was just tough to watch and not like, oh man, this is so like juicy. I need to see it.

It was like, oh man, we shouldn't be privy to what's happening right now on the screen. They've rebounded, well the last few episodes i think of hawaii was great without him why it was great this episode was good with him because it was finally brittany getting some retribution like holding him in check watching him and jesse as the sad divorced dad's club i thought was kind of funny yeah so i think this is the only episode of enjoyed with jacks and that's because he finally got put in his place a little bit more it was nice to see but uh yeah i think the future of the valley it's going to be okay do you think the

timing was because of this episode because of the end of the episode in particular maybe because it came out i mean the episode dropped last night and the news came out this morning so it's like maybe the end wasn't what he thought it was going to be or maybe in his own fucked up brain he thought that that that was going to be more of a everybody's going to see how bad brittany is to me when in reality everybody's online cheering brittany on what she did and not being manipulated by him in that last scene and now he's like all right yeah okay well okay you guys can release the the stuff now like i'm out of here that's kind of what i think yeah he's He's just trying to throw a pity party for himself.

Yeah, we got another person on this cast that's throwing a pity party. We had a couple pity parties on this show. Should we jump in? Yeah. All righty. Well, we start out with Danny Ney and Jasmine, and they are toying a playhouse, which is very sweet. And this is why L.A., I just couldn't. I could never.

$1.1.1 million. That's nuts. That house was teeny tiny. It was nice. It was very nice. I'm not shitting on the house itself. Lovely place. That is not a 1.1 million.

million dollar home it's smaller than their penhouse no i they fell for the pictures they fell for the pictures which happens honestly i i yeah you went through a whole housing crisis trying to find your house fell for the pictures i mean even if it's an apartment you fall for the pictures it makes it look like a lot bigger and then you walk in here like where the fuck am i going to put a normal size tv dude we saw this one house in glenside and it was like not like a compound it was like an artist's compound so it was like all these different buildings connected by like little segways and like tunnels and shit it was so funky and online it looked sick and like one of the walls in the living room was like cork board and like this cool pattern it was really cool

and then we got there and it was just janky as fuck it looked like somebody was doing like an art project and built the house out of it yeah i was so excited for that one pictures will get you that's what happens look i think this was i don't want to say it was a fake scene but i do think it was it was important to have Nia, Danny, and Jasmine in one scene where nobody else is there. Correct. To show, like, hey, we can have a friendship and we can build upon it. Now, obviously, when Jasmine goes to her confessional, she's just talking about selling the house. She doesn't really, like, shed light on that.

And neither did Danny and Nia. But it's just important for us to see after all the shit that happened on the boat and all the things we've been hearing all season, that they can still be cordial and, you know, be somewhat happy. Yep. Yeah. And I think that it's really important after the episode we watched last week. to show them in a normal setting. And then I thought it was even bigger the fact that they brought it up. Like,

I didn't think they were going to bring anything up because of the obvious. But Nia brings up the whole Janet thing in Hawaii, how awful it was. I love that they call her Voldemort. That's fucking funny. But I was wondering what Jasmine's reaction was going to be because part of me was like, yeah, this feels kind of weird. And when she does go to that one confessional addressing it, and I think that she said it kind of perfectly.

She's like, I appreciate what Janelle. that's trying to do because technically she's trying to stand up for me. That's not what she's actually doing. She's just weaponizing your trauma, which is fucking crazy. But she acknowledges that part of it. But then she goes to the more important part

where it's like, we're trying to move forward. And every time you do this, it brings me back to that moment. It brings me back to those feelings. I don't like that. Danny and I have agreed to move on. Melissa and I, most importantly, we agreed to move on.

We're trying to move forward. Janet, shut the fuck up. Yeah. I feel like every scene. that we've gotten now in the last couple of episodes, really, after we said, all right, we do need to move forward because we saw so many apologies, we saw so many times where Jasmine and Melissa were sitting down with Danny. And they were saying, like, we can move forward. It's like, okay, great, can we? Because we don't really want to continue down this path where we flip, flop,

flip flop, flip flop, flip flip flop. But at the end of the day, it is Jasmine's experience. It's Jasmine's trauma. It's Melissa's experience. So if they do feel a type of way, they're going to let us know. They're going to let Danny know because they've done this. And I think Danny just has to eat it at this point and he has eaten so far from what we've seen but when janet gets involved it's like you're not part of this and it's important for jasmine to also say this is what we're doing this is how we're handling it and i feel like what we've seen from them from that scene with danny where they're talking about their experience as a lesbian couple how they have to move forward how they're scrutinized by all these people from in and out looking at them in a different way

now we're seeing all right we've moved past this we have a lot to deal with and we saw a scene a little bit later with the two of them where they're talking about moving forward and they're talking about you know freezing eggs and all these things that they have to do as a lesbian couple so that's what they're focused on they're not focused on the past anymore but janet is yeah which is crazy and we get this juxtaposed to a scene with janet michel and fucking sheener sheener shener shay one of the vpr parasites that just will not go away think brock actually cheated on her i don't i can't wait we're bringing back our news episodes guys because life is settling yeah love island's over So we have time to do all of our members stuff.

And Love Island literally took everything off the table. But we're getting back to the business and we'll get our news episodes out. And that's the first one we're going to talk about it is the Brock cheating allegations. I don't think he cheated on her. I don't even allegations because she said it. They're not allegations. She said that it happened. Yeah, of course I think it happened.

I think he cheated on her. I think she, I mean, the fact that she sat on this during a few seasons of VPR that were just all. awful when she was going after all these other people for cheating and blah, blah, blah, and talking about how she couldn't even imagine Raquel and Brock, but, you know, she's thinking about it's like, he cheated on you like four years ago, lady. What are we talking about? And he's got a weird relationship with Raquel, and he cheated in the past. So I do believe he cheated on her, but I think whatever the fuck she's made. I don't think, I don't think it's real. I think it's just her selling her book.

It's probably somewhere in the middle. At least Brock's finally contributing to her financials. point. By cheating on her. That's a good point. Selling the book. By cheating on her, you help sell her book. Nice job, Brock. What a man. What a father of the year, though. Yeah. Sure. Sure. How's a century? How's your kids in Australia? Oh, man. Anywho, they're recapping Hawaii at Sheeners. And of course, the first thing that gets talked about, Janet says that Doty brought up Danny and Nia. Yep. And said, I was attacking them. It's like, that's not what happened, but cool. Let's keep going down Janet's path of how things

happened. When she says that, the whole conversation flips to like, well, you know, Sheena's like, that's what Doty does. She wants to hang out with the cool kids and she wants to be popular. So crazy. That was the wildest thing I've ever heard come out of Sheena's mouth. And she said a lot of dumb

shit, but like, that's you. To a tea. Yeah. To an absolute tea. You've been doing that for 50. You're doing it right now on the show. I had to because I was watching it. And then like, I don't know if my attention just drifted for a half a second because Sheena was on screen

and I just didn't care. But when she had said the tail end of that, I'm like, was she talking about Doty? Let me go back. Let me rewatch this. Yep, she was talking about Doty. Okay, cool. It didn't matter who she was talking about specifically. But the fact that she's talking about Kristen Doty saying she just wants to be in with the popular crowd, that's what she's going to do. She's always going to flock and support

them. She doesn't care about her friends. This doesn't make any sense. Zero. By the way, because her and Janet are not friends. No. So it's not like what Brittany's doing by abandoning everyone else to be Janet's friend. Correct. It's that Doty doesn't like Janet. Janet did something that she really doesn't like and she's going after her.

Yes. Okay. Yes. Yeah. But she didn't want to. Also, is Nia the popular kid? Like, no, I'm really confused. I think that's alluding to like, you know, the Miss USA pageant, which what is the

pageant now? Is it Miss Universe or Miss USA? Because somebody got it wrong. Somebody gets it wrong in the finale. I'm not really sure. I think he says like Miss America or something. Okay. Jacks does and she's like what wrong pageant i don't want to be i think it was miss universe is it

miss universe yeah because i don't think there's a miss planet right miss planet yeah miss earth it just doesn't sound right you know there could be but it just doesn't sound right miss universe i know exists this world miss USA exists so this USA exists i think she miss world is that a thing that doesn't even sound right I think we just go straight to universe after yeah it's so because Because, you know, as we know, at least for now, we're alone in the universe. That's what's going on right now. It's the Fermi paradox, bro.

If there's all these aliens. Is it a void? No, no, no, I saw that one too. The Fermi paradox is if there is alien life out there. And if there is an infinite amount of planets, universes, or sorry, planets, galaxies, and everything that's in the universe. And now there's a potential multiverse theory, which isn't corroborated. rated by any means, but a lot of people believe that.

The Fermi paradox is, if there is alien life and there's infinite possibilities, why have we not seen it yet? Alluding to the fact that we may actually be alone in the universe, which is a scary thought. Miss Universe, what are we talking about? I don't know. Did I fuck your brain out? No, I just, I feel like if we haven't had contact yet, it's because they already saw us. It's either one of two things.

Weirdly, we're already the most technologically savvy species in the universe that we know of. that we know of or they already have seen us and they're like I don't know oh no well there's the third one thanks the third one that's coming out recently there's whistleblowers in congress that are talking about alien bases underwater the fact there's these drone footage is they're wild and it's like it almost looks like that scene from star wars you know that one drone that like boba fett uses yeah and it's like and then it goes invisible yeah it looks like the invisible version of that and it's going right over a u.s military base and it's u.s. military footage uh-huh obviously that could be like technology

red flags but false flags but there are whistleblowers in Congress that are saying I've seen the information I've seen there was a a UFO crash where the guy in Congress was literally sitting there testifying and said I saw an organism that was not of human origin

so do with that what you will what are they distracting us from yeah what's the real story they're distracted us from something well that picks something Bears on the moon now? What are we doing? No, there's a lot more they're trying to distract them at the moment.

Space bear sounds terrifying. Let's get back on track. That was a hell of a tangent. That was a very niche reference. Yes. Why does kids you know? We ever seen that? Oh, my God.

That. I was also going to say Earth is just like Stephen Glansberry. We're just over there eating our lunch alone. Steven Glansman. There's Glansberry. Glansberry. Oh, Glansman Subaru. Yep.

Yeah. Yeah. No, he's my neighbor. docks, docks, dox. No doxing. You guys don't know where I'm at. Let's get back to the show. Okay, cool. Miss Universe, we'll go with that for now. We will correct it when we know better. But the craziest thing that I thought was said was, this isn't Kristen's problem. Michelle says that. It's like, it's not Janet's problem either by that logic. So what are we talking about here? Yeah. But we jump back to Jasmine, Danny, and Nia. And

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the people that were affected by it have decided that they would like to move forward we should all move forward the show itself should move forward so hopefully after this season we don't have to fucking hear about it anymore but I'm sure Jan will find a way to bring it up it will be an entire

reunion episode oh it definitely will but there's a I don't hate that well actually I don't really know because they filmed a reunion so early yeah but it's been like they talked about I mean they knew it was a big hot button issue while they were filming so they know about it I imagine they talked about it.

It's going to be kind of weird, actually. We're going to have to keep track of that for the reunion what actually gets brought up and what doesn't. Because, God, they probably would have already filmed the reunion, too, if Jacks, yeah. Maybe they knew that Jacks wasn't coming back at that point. Just watching you work through it right now. Yeah.

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I'm not going to lie. But Doty and Luke, they're talking babies, which obviously that's been their journey this season. And it would be a lot tougher to watch if we didn't know that she had just delivered a beautiful baby. So this is actually, I like, I like, the golden egg really got me going. Me too. I was like, that's going to happen. I really loved that. Well, especially because you know what happens.

Yeah, I think that's why, yeah. What's the timing do you think of like the golden egg statement to when they got pregnant? Maybe I've been holding out hope that she was going to find out that she was pregnant at the finale. I think I want that to have no because Nia still isn't announcing that she's pregnant. It would time up though. It would. So I'm hoping. Yeah, I need to.

That would be cool to watch. But the funny thing would be like a big reveal at the reunion like, because she's pregnant. It's like we know. Oh, that wouldn't hit us hard. I want to see it happen in the moment. Yeah. But, uh, they just got back. From a doctor's appointment, Luke got his boys checked, and he's got good swimmer, so no issues there.

And it's just, it's tough to watch Doty go through all this. Like, I feel really bad because then it always goes back to her age and her body, and she blames that. So it's just the amount of pressure she puts on herself is sad. It's sad to see. But at least she has a good friend in Nia who's, who already went through this. Correct. Before her first child. Yeah.

So it's somebody that she can lean on. And I feel like I always love those conversations at the two of the three of them. them have. Same. They have one later in the episode. It seems so real. It seems so real and it's so grounded. It's like, wow, this show is a flying circus. And then randomly you'll get a scene in the middle of it where it's like, wow, this is great. How heartwarming. This is nice. No, I agree. I agree 100%. But Jacks arrives. Thank God. And apologizes for leaking the fact that they got engaged 10 minutes after it happened. It's such a leak it. I mean, he told Schwartz. He told the group chat. Oh, yeah, he did tell the group chat. Okay. Yeah. He texted.

Doty, congrats. Yeah, and text of the boys group chat. That fucking boys group chat, we knew it was going to be a problem. Gets everybody in trouble. Just gets everybody in trouble. Mm-hmm. Those boys group chats, no, no, no, no, no. No, no.

And you get the most, like, half-ass Jack's apology. It's so standard, you know, he's like. He brought the orchid that Schwartz gave him. I didn't even see that. I was writing down. He gave them an orchid. Remember the fuck out of here. Yeah, I remember the orchid Schwartz gave him.

Yeah, so he brought them an orchid that. because Doty says, I've never been able to keep an orchid alive. And Luke says, thank God, I'm here now. That's great. Love that. But he definitely just brought the orchid that Schwartz gave him. Without a doubt. Which is the most jacks thing of all time.

That's so funny. And he's going through it. And he's like, you know, Brittany was being nice to me finally. And I didn't want to throw her under the bridge. Freudian slip. Uh-huh. That was, yeah, I would like to say it's because he's dumb, but I think his brain was thinking other things. But.

Yeah. What's he doing under that bridge? I don't know. But I'm so sick and tired. of the same sob story where he's trying to use his relationship with Cruz to garner sympathy from us of the audience because he's like, you know, I'm going crazy. I haven't seen my kid in days. And you know how hard is to not go to bed with my son in the house?

And it's like, you did this to yourself. Yeah. I'm going to get into it more later, but you can't keep pointing fingers at Brittany and other people. I just love the sob story to people who like Brittany and talk to Brittany all the time. Yeah. As if they don't already know what's going on. Especially Doty. Yeah.

And Doty's doing a good. job and she's done a good job since he's gotten out of his facility to just kind of like hear him out at least which is really just good service to the fans because yeah get him talking and you can catch him in so many different lies and you can catch him in so many different things of bullshit yeah that it it really warms my heart you know like hey this guy's a piece of shit doty's actually letting him talk and not cutting him off so he's actually just spewing more and more lies it's like okay this guy really does suck he really does and it's proof every time he opens his mouth and the way that he's going about this whole thing is crazy he's trying to blame other people

for his relationship with crews and we've seen scenes from later in the episode already in this episode so for him to say i don't give a shit about us or me it's all about cruise i'm you lied in the same episode that's so dumb but let's get to i'm sure it destroyed him to have luke sit there and try to give him advice oh yeah without a doubt after last season i can't imagine what's going through Jack's head. He's like, I got to bite my fucking tongue right now, because if I say anything to Luke, I'm going to look really bad. You already look terrible. You look horrible. Yeah, you can't

really renew your image at this point, buddy. Nope, but we got Doty, Brittany, and Zach, and it's a little James May photo shoot. And Jacks has fully moved out of the house, which is good news. We're moving in the right direction. She's like, yeah, you know, now she's talking about it. Her phone's blowing up. And it's

Jack's calling and texting and says, I need the code for the ring camera. Because I just got one, and I'm getting it installed at my house. If it's a separate ring camera... Separate account. It's a separate account. Mm-hmm. What the fuck are you talking about?

And I'm glad that Brittany didn't... Like, in the past, we would have seen Brittany entertain the idea. Right. Now we're at a point, and this is when I finally got confident that she is moving on. She's like, no, what? Go fuck yourself and hangs up the phone as he's screaming at her. Yeah. Maybe if he hadn't done so many things.

I mean, how many times do we have to talk about the cameras in the house? Oh. It's just insane. so finally it clicked where she's like, no, he's just trying to get access to the cameras again. It's like, thank you. Great. There you go.

We could have said that six episodes ago, but all right, yeah, sure. Probably should have locked him out a long time ago. You could have probably done that, changed the password. I don't know. Who knows? Who doesn't have the password?

Yeah, exactly. So who's to say? Who knows? But it's just laughable. And then he tries to yell at her on the phone. Yep. Now, if we're to take his word, there's a technician there from Ring,

setting up his camera. Right now. to him he's right next to him he's right fucking here i'm gonna yell at my ex-wife on the phone makes that guy really uncomfortable he probably would do that though he would so yeah that's not unfeasible i'm just assuming he probably ordered it and he's like oh this is great up don't you i don't have a ring i think i'm install it yourself i thought you did it's not a hard process stick it to the fucking door and you log in screw it in or whatever it is yeah i don't the technician get the fuck out of here i didn't even think about that

until now like what are you installing security oh dude he's probably putting cameras throughout the house this is probably i've always i've really often wondered why they have so many cameras in their house it's kind of weird you know why because when he's doing weird sex stuff he wants to that exactly that's exactly what it is yeah yeah okay cool yeah on the same page but doty and brittany get into the janet stuff and actually brittney brought up hawaii so i was a little surprised there knowing where she stands i thought and was hopeful i was like oh is she going to to talk about her role in this Janet, Doty, Brittany, Triangle, because that would be really nice for her to acknowledge it.

It's actually pretty ignorant for her to bring it up. Yeah, that's why I... And then not expect to get dragged into it. That's my point. That's my exact point. I thought you were just going to skate it. You already said like 15 times. I only have five minutes.

I've got to get out of here. I got to go pick up crews. I got the things to do. Instead, you're like, hey, let's talk about Hawaii. It's like, whoa, that's a loaded topic. But I thought that it was positive because I'm like, oh, she's going to talk about it. And then she skirts it.

She does at least say, you know, Danny apologized and Jasmine's moving on. So we should move on. And I'm like, all right, at least to acknowledge that part of it. But then in her confessional, she's like, oh, I don't want to, don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. And I just want to, you know, not stepping in toes. I'm just trying to get out of here. That's like she immediately regretted even saying that part.

I think so. No, that's the correct response, Brittany. So for a second there, we had some hope for you. There's a lot of different instances throughout the last couple episodes where we had a little bit of hope for Brittany. We're like, oh, that's a good point. Good job. I hope you truly believe that confessional. I don't believe anything that I just said in that episode. Okay. Great. Yeah. Well, that's unfortunate. Let's get to Jesse and Jacks, the sad dad's club. Oh, man. Just going up all those stairs. That was so funny. He kept complaining about stairs. It's like, you bought a fucking, like,

dude, your Honda needs exercise. You do. You know, from the normal exercise that you would be doing. It needs good exercise. So you should be going up and down those stairs. For cardiovascular health. Absolutely. You want to be around for your son? You've got to hike up them stairs. I don't think he gives this shit. No, he doesn't. I don't think he cares. I think that it's just something he can't have and that pisses him off. Correct. Yeah.

But they're talking about their lives now and they get up to the roof and it's genuinely funny when he points to the other roof and he's like that's Schwartz's house. He lives right next door and Jesse's like, hell, he's pretty much your room and he's like, don't say that. That's what you wanted. Dude, don't say that. That's what you wanted, Jack? So you're trying to

convince us otherwise, but you're stoked that Schwartz lives right there. And Schwartz is probably weirdly stoked that you live right there. I can't tell if Schwartz is stoked or not. I think Schwartz is... He wants us to believe he's not. Correct. Yeah. He's such a pushover, though. I feel like deep down somewhere, he's like, I can't believe that I'm in this situation. Oh, definitely. He doesn't show it. He got his life previously. He was married to Katie, who was thriving. Yep. He is now in his 40s living next to Jacks, Taylor, and a condo alone. I'm assuming soon as Sandoval sells that house. oh yeah oh god that's they're gonna make a shot of that they're gonna make a show out of that

uh-huh no maybe not sad boys club yeah sandoval's dad's involved somehow we already map this show out before we did we and it's coming to fruition well they live in the same place now because what did we say we said get them an area with like four duplexes across from each other in a little courtyard and they all live together imagine being the president of the h-o-a over there oh god good luck boy good luck but jacks brings up brittany dating and he's like she's moving on so fast it's like not really not in the grand scheme of things she's just finally taking the blinders off and trying to get her life on track and then he brings up the sun stuff again and you get a confessional and you get this sad fucking music and he's like i can only see him when she says and like you know she holds this

over me it's like you are responsible for the lack of a relationship with your son you're responsible for it because of your behavior before you went to quote unquote rehab. Yeah. And you're much more responsible for it after getting out of rehab and not doing anything to better yourself and not making him a priority. If he was really a priority, you would go to Brittany and say, hey, what can I do? Tell me what I can do so I can show you that I'm ready to be a dad. But instead, you got a haircut, you got Botox, and you screamed at your ex and the mother

of your child. Yeah, pretty much. I figured this was just going to be more of the same scene. Yeah. Where it's like any time that Jack shows up and he's talking to one of his friends or somebody else or whatever it was, he's not going to say anything new. We're not going to get any new information out of him. He's just trying to spew this at this point. And instead it turned into what I didn't expect, which was Jesse talking about his divorce.

I got a lot of questions. I have so many more questions. I thought, like, we handled isn't the right word, but I thought we had it handled. We had a handle on it. And it's not at all what I thought. There are so many more nuances. and it starts with Michelle didn't actually file, which might be true, might not be true.

Didn't correctly file. I thought his answer was going to be so technically we're still going to be married. And I'm like, oh, well, that's actually kind of funny. Instead, it's we're going to have to go through the entire process over again, do the whole thing from scratch. And we find out that he took $300,000 out and alone because we get another juxtapose scene where then they go back to the Sheena scene for whatever reason. I guess it was a double serving scene.

He took out a $300,000 loan in his own name, which, again, I never know who's lying or who's telling the truth. I believe this one. I believe this one. And yeah, he pretty much comes out and says, yeah, the housing market was spiraling. I didn't know what to do. Blah, blah, blah. And it's like, okay, so you took out a $300,000 loan to live your lifestyle. That's crazy.

Yeah. That's how you go bankrupt. And I definitely believe Michelle. And also, like California, I don't know, we're not lawyers, as you guys know. We've heard a lot of weird rules with California from, you know, Doreet and PK to help this. I believe that 50-50 state is correct. Yeah. So I'm assuming that also entails if you take out a loan, you're both responsible.

Like you're married, yeah. That's what Michelle's saying, and she's refusing to pay any of it. Nor should she, by the way, because he took the money and stuck it in his own personal account. And I imagine he took this out, like, when they were about to get divorced. More than likely, yeah. So now she's on the hook for $300,000. he's using it to live it. That's, now we know how we bought all those flowers.

Alone. That's the thing, though. That's what's scary for this guy. It's like, dude, if you're willing to spend however much on 5,000 hybiscous petals, you shouldn't do that with loaned money. No. That's crazy. I feel bad for Michelle, man.

Because like this scene, I already felt like I was much more team Michelle than team Jesse, like all season. This one reminds you that, okay, We're watching a show and, you know, they get heated. They go back and forth, but we're like, oh, you know, they're wacky and they're both kind of mean to each other. And then it's like, oh, fuck, there's like real world implications with this divorce to the tune of at least 300 grand. At least, yeah. Okay.

Well, let's get to Danny and Nia for a very sad scene and a very fucking mean doctor. I don't like this guy. Yeah, I didn't like this doctor. I didn't like his hair. I don't like his vibe. Plastic surgeons, by the way, like when the assistants walk by, they're always like, really good looking and then the plastic surgeon like looks like a troll yeah he just kind of like waddles in there he's like let me tell you what's wrong with your body he's like greased back you're disgusting

you're disgusted in like greased back long hair and like a five head i don't like it i wouldn't be so mean if he wasn't so mean i'm surprised you didn't go to terry de bro oh see i wouldn't have minded a terry i would have left a little terry drop out i wouldn't have minded a little terry in there but she's going through her her baby post baby stuff again and do they want another baby and she's talked to the audience about this before. And confessionals, you know, she doesn't feel like herself and she doesn't feel comfortable or happy in her own body, which, you know, she deserves to feel that way.

So she's stuck between, do we have another baby? Do I get my mommy makeover now? So they go for a consultation to see where they're at. And this guy inspects her breasts and he's like, all right, well, and I thought he was going to be nice about it. Yeah, you would imagine. And now I get, like, plastic surgeons. This is probably how they make a living is by insulting you, essentially.

That's what I think. happened, yeah. And it makes you want to do it. And it's like, this is a consultation. This is just like... For a mother that's insecure about her body post three children. Yeah, yeah. So it's definitely a grimy industry. I will say, Danny's getting a little bit better at handling these situations. This is good. The end of it was, he still slipped in a, you know me, I think you're beautiful. I think you're the most beautiful woman in the world. It's like, okay, all right. But then he'd be recovered quickly. Because he says, but this is about you and how you feel and he's learning, which is good. We love to see people learning and growing. That's important. So I think he handled it really well at the end,

but he still had to slip one in there where he's like, you're a baby. I think you're the absolute most sexy girl in the world. It's like, all right. But I love you and I want you to feel good in your own body. Okay, there you go. There it is. There you got. Stuck the landing. I'm not really sure where you were doing up in the air, but, you know, getting there. Yep. And then Dr. Nefario is inspecting and he goes, well, you know, we could do this, but that's for people with, with perky your breasts. Now, there is an extreme. Okay. and I thought he was going to be like, there's an extreme, we're not there, don't worry about it. He's like, there is an extreme and you're on the cusp, you're past that.

Yeah, you're definitely past that. You're past, you're double extreme. What the fuck? Yeah. Like you, as a, shithead. Well, as a guy that does this, you have to imagine he does mommy makeovers. So if you were a nice doctor, you would say, like, oh, we'll get you back feeling good. Like, totally fixable.

Don't worry about it. Don't get into the, like, details of it. But instead, he does exactly what I think you said is. Let me insult you. Selling point. And then you're going to have to do this. He gives me the vibes of like a woman walks in with back problems because their boobs are too big. And he goes, I think we can go bigger.

That's exactly. That's who this guy. Not big enough. If you've ever thought about boobs on your back, really balance it out. That's what this guy does. There's more boobs. Oh, who's you going to see? Cutting inch.

Dr. Boobbs? Oh, yeah. Fuck that guy. But anyway. I did enjoy Danny being supportive and I always feel for Nia in these scenes because what you get from Nia always is authenticity. Yeah.

Always genuine. She's going to tell you how she feels and she's good at telling you how she feels. So I feel for her and like I'm glad that like she had been they kind of everything worked out. We got Santa Clarita house. Yep. We got baby number four. Hopefully the surgeons out in Santa Clarita are a lot nicer. I would hope so.

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Scotia Bank, you're richer than you think. But let's get to Janet and Jason for what a bizarre scene. Unreal. I enjoyed it. This was the funniest scene. I really enjoyed the scene. I was floored. Yeah, because nobody's going to see through this and be like,

you're doing this because Doty brought up a rumor about him not having a ring. Jason who seems adamantly against getting a tattoo is now marking his body permanently. By the way, it's not even cool. It's not even like a fun little like it's Janet's name or her initials or something that like signifies their love. He got a fucking ring. He got an actual ring on his finger. That is awful. Corny as fuck.

That is so stupid. Yeah, I agree. It was so dumb. but Janet who has four tattoos somewhere. I don't like are they the little ones on the forearm? She's not like a like the clover on her ankle or something. Like that kind of vibe. That's what I think.

I don't know if she has a big one or not, but. The infinity sign or something like on her foot. The script right here. Sheena Shea, it's all happening. Like something like that. If she has a big one, okay, fine. But the way she's talking is like she is covered in sleeves because she's like, you know, this is, this would be my friend.

And if, like, this is what it takes to get Jason in here. Yeah, I like the pain. It doesn't hurt at all. It's that kind of vibe where, and I know people like this, because I'll tell you flat out, like, yeah, this shit hurts. Like, I'm covered in tattoos, but not great. No. You know, I know so many guys that are like, oh, like, I kind of like the pain. I'm like, yeah, you don't.

Yeah, you don't sound cool and interesting. No, you sound like you're into an S&M and, like, and weird shit. But Jason's getting his ring tattoo. I will say this. If it's like a five to ten minute tattoo, it doesn't hurt. It feels like a little uncomfortable. It's not bad. He is wincing.

He is squirming. He says fuck for the first time. In his entire life. Jinks, you owe me a magic mind. All right. Fair enough. But he's acting, you would think he's getting his spine tattooed. And for those that don't have it, bones, that's where it sucks the most.

Bones and pits. So like your armpit, your elbow pit. That's where shit really gets bad. Arm pit. Oh, a lot of people have that. You haven't seen that? Pit tattoos? If they're going to complete, like, if they have work here that goes into the back, they'll get the full thing.

Yeah. I would never. No fucking shot. Mine goes up to here, and that was, like, excruciating. Shivers. Yeah, it's not cool. It's not fun. But that's what he's acting like.

He's acting like he's getting his armpit tattooed or something horrible, and he gets it done. And then his fucking speech. And also, of course, he's never said fuck before. Like, that's the most unsurprising news ever. he probably says freak or fudge yeah oh fudge a freak that's the vibe I get from him

freaks going on over here cheese and rice oh anyway he gives his little speech in the confessional now that he's got a tattoo and he's like look getting a tattoo doesn't make you a man but it does make you feel like more of like a

like a hard man did you say hard man I thought that, like, he did it. He said hard, man. And I, I really thought that this, I thought the confessional was going to keep going. I didn't too. Just stopped. Yeah.

That's all he had to say? Why was that even confessional worthy? Because it was fucking funny. Show him such a loser. Yeah. To show him such a loser. Show him as such a loser. Like, no, I think the first one actually works.

Show him such a loser. Yeah. That's like old Englishy. Yeah. On the roof, such a clatter. There you go. Yeah, that was Christmasisms. Nicely done.

That's what we're doing here. We do. Thanks for that, little lifeboat. But yeah, I really genuinely thought there was going to be more to that confessional. Like, it's great. I thought it was going to be all bullshit. Like, it's really bringing me, Janet, back together. It's, you know, I mean, not back together.

I didn't cheat on her. I'm just saying, like, it brings us closer. I mean, not closer. We were already really close. I've never taken my ring off. I don't take my ring up. But no, I really can't. Like, that's what it was.

He legitimately said, I can never take my ring. Now, if I have my ring off, I don't have my ring off because it's tattooed on my body. That's it. Stay away, ladies. Jesus, Shakespeare, like, what the fuck? It was so good. I loved it. Yeah.

Not for the reasons that he did, but it was funny as shit. And I will say this. All right, I'll be honest about this. People are mean online. People are mean online. Okay. And I don't like Janet at all. No.

But reading that stuff, as we know from experience, like most of the time you brush it off, every once in a while one will sneak through and kind of sting you a little bit. That can't be easy. Okay. I do have some sympathy for her. My issue is she doesn't do herself any favors whatsoever. So it's like hard to have a whole lot of sympathy. But there is some because online bullying sucks.

I think Bravo did some online bullying by showing the comments. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask is the way that I viewed that was you didn't really need to show those comments. No, we knew what was going on. So at first I'm like, oh, great, here we go. Redemption Arc, we're throwing a pity party for Janet. Is this really what we're going to do? I don't believe anything she's saying because even when she's, goes back and she even brings up the fact that people are saying that she's a fan online like

that is not hurtful. I'm sorry. There are some very mean things that people have said about Janet online that I've seen. And there is a line somewhere in there where you don't want to cross it. But people online, they can hide behind things and whatever. For her to just single that out was the biggest crock of shit. Because we get to see the clip once again from last week where Kristen is calling her a fan and she's laughing at it. So don't do this. Just just don't. If you want to do it and say people are being mean online fine go for it but you singling that part out is brutal it's it's brutal and you know once the sympathy wears off and i start watching the scene and what's happening it's like look dodi has explained multiple times we at home understand jason didn't take his ring off

and if he did it was not nefarious by any means maybe got like caught like adjusting it or it was a nothing rumor just thrown out there just to say hey don't throw stones yeah stop talking shit about my friends and i'll stop bringing up dumb rumors from the past. That's all it was. This rumor has gone to the point because you and Jason decided to have a powwow and sit down and say, you know what? We're not over this when you were over at Sheena's house, I think, like way back. And we are going to make this a big deal to the point that Jason's not got a tattoo because

of a rumor that Doty didn't even mean. That's embarrassing. Because you guys are so insecure about this thing or you guys are so stuck on having some kind of relevant storyline, even though this one said goodbye weeks ago, that you're still talking about the ring and then you're going to take this moment where you're trying to be heartfelt with your husband and convince us that you guys actually like each other and you bring

Doty up and you say that she's reading the comments and regurgitating them. Which she's not. No shot. There's just no way that she has her own... People are watching Doty and repeating what she's saying. It was just, it didn't land nearly what they thought it was or how it was going to and it's just really tough. It's tough to watch.

I did feel bad the here's when I felt bad like actually felt bad is when she's saying like I'm afraid that one day

and this is double-edged sword like one day you're going to wake up you're going to see me how everyone else sees me I was like that's really sad and I do believe she feels like that at the same time if everybody's telling you

that you like this can you not look in the silver lining here is she's referring to last season's comments which everybody was wondering why Jason is with Janet. Yeah. Good thing to come

from this season is nobody is falling over Jason anymore. Yeah, no, we get it now. We understand why you're together, so you don't have to worry about that. He's not going to go anywhere. Nobody's going to steal your man because nobody wants your man. Right. He's a loser too. Yep. So that's good. Problem solved. Focus on the

fucking positives. Don't get the freaking positives. Don't get tattoos because you're insecure about a rumor nobody believes. Yeah. But that's the funniest part. He will, for ever be reminded. Now I believe the rumor. Now I think that he was cheating on her. Now it's a little harder to not believe that. You guys didn't, this didn't land at all how you thought it was, but it's also going an extra mile because now we're saying, holy shitty, actually got his fucking ring

tattooed on his finger. Bridge too far. That's incredibly insecure. Why are you so insecure? Because of Doty and because of people online, not buying it. Bad look. Might be more there. And every single time for the rest of your life, when you look down at your hand, you will be a reminder. of Kristen Doty. Yeah. That's fucking fun. So just got her face tattooed on your finger. That would have been funny.

You pretty much did. Actually, I think that would have been really funny. I mean, he would have moved up just like right there. You would have moved up in the book a little bit. Hey, since you're so concerned about my ring, I got a reminder. I would be on board with that. That would be funny. He would get a lot of points for me.

It would be bizarre, but it would be a lot funnier. But instead, he gets to look at his ring tattoo and be like, oh, Doty. Yeah. An idiot. But let's get to this wonderful scene between Doty and Nia and they're talking. and babies. And it's been just about a year since Kristen had her miscarriage. So obviously, I'm sure there's a lot of emotions there. And we start to get some happier stuff. You know, it's the serendipitous moment that the OB that Doty's going to actually works with the

doctor that helped Nia get pregnant. So that's kind of cool to hear this. I think this is the golden egg scene. This is the golden egg scene. Yeah. So that makes me really, that's the funny thing. I know that they got pregnant and had a baby. When these scenes happen, I'm actively rooting for her to get pregnant still in a way i still am rooting for it uh or at the very least i'm saying hey just hang on a couple of weeks you got it's good and it's very funny that the two of them are talking about this and neither either either they're both pregnant one of them's pregnant or they're about to both be pregnant whatever it might be it's still just really funny and really nice it's funny in like a heartwarming way yeah and it's nice to see somebody because we see nia be heartfelt a lot

and we see dody doty since she's been on the show has been very good at having conversations with her friends. But it's nice to see Doty sitting there not talking over Nia, Nia venting about everything going on with Danny, the house, her body, the baby. And Doty gives little comments, but allows her to speak and just, like, it literally took like Nia took a big shit after that,

in a positive way. Yeah, she just looked so much happier. Yeah, lighter. And she even said it. She said it's so nice to be able to talk to somebody else about this instead of Danny. Yeah, and it was. It was nice to watch. I know that, but let's do it.

Let's do it. I've been waiting for this scene for about 12 episodes. I just can't look. Jacks is going through so much. I just can't believe that Brittany did this to him. I know. What an asshole, Brittany is for doing this to Jacks, right? Trying to better himself.

I don't even think you can do it with me. I don't think I can for that. I thought you could. I got, there's a little bit of hope. I was close and I was like, I just can't. I can't. I will say credit to Brittany finally for getting crews out of the house before we do this so we don't have to pan the camera over to him and see how this is affecting him in real

time because that sucked but this is a let's set some boundaries with cruise conversation okay and brittany in a confessioner says that jacks has been angry at her for rehab further proof that this treatment facility he went to did not work by any means you want more proof he is trying so hard to get brittany to say that anybody missed him on the hawaii trip none of this is self-reflective yeah that was insane and I do think obviously it was preemptive

getting Cruz out of there and at the end of the scene when Jacks is talking about how Cruz isn't around or whatever it might be and she says I got him out of here because I knew how this conversation

would go I have some slight hope that Brittany knew that she was actually going to go off on Jacks I think that she is she needed to she definitely needed to

we at home needed to see it yeah but i think that it's further proof that she's actually at a place now and this scene was was very convincing i do believe this is her actual feelings yeah she's finally at a place where she doesn't care anymore right like she still loves him which you can tell and that's painful for he tried to bait her so many times she wasn't she wasn't yelling at him but she wasn't falling for that bait no she was doubling and tripling down like why would you took the pictures down he was baiting her to try to be like oh yeah i'm completely over you and i want nothing to do with you

she says that but in a much more eloquent way and a much more like impactful way exactly it it hits a lot harder the way that she goes about it but i was just and i shouldn't be shocked anymore by the things he says but i still am because it's just so ridiculous to me that somebody claiming to be in recovery is going to revert back to all of these things it's literally against everything that we're taught in rehab and he's like you know brittney has the upper hand so i'm just trying to play nice it's like no that's the wrong way to look at it you fucked up your whole life and your relationship with your son, so you should be doing whatever you can to get back

and Britney's Good Graces, so she trusts you with her kid. But that's fine. We can keep playing like she's the problem, whatever. And then he wants to go for the, you're just going to throw 10 years down the drain. No, you threw 10 years up your nose. That's what happened. And then you had a chance to fix it.

How many chances did he have? Every opportunity. Every opportunity to the point where even after throwing tables and furniture at your wife, she was still hoping you go to rehab and get better, so you could get back together. That didn't happen. And now you're out here in the streets,

blaming her saying that she's keeping you from her kid. There's sad music behind you when you're saying that. Fuck these producers and editors. That's crazy talk that you're even trying to garner sympathy. It should have been. Or like clown music. He gets no music. Yeah, he gets clown music and then she gets triumphed music.

That would have been much better. And he brings up the divorce. It says, you're still good on that? Yeah. yeah it just goes to show you exactly where his his mind frame is he's thinking deep down much like he did their entire relationship it's not final yeah i still a chance i still got a bet you he probably took that information from jesse about how michelle filed incorrectly and he's like oh maybe uh maybe brittney did that check those papers yeah let me go check those maybe i could do that so i could just continuously do this that could be a good move like that's how he thinks that he really does think that it's never over 100 percent. And I'm confused by the protection. And this, if it is what I think it is, and it's further damning evidence against Jeremiah penis nose and Alex Bagskin. But we get a clip of five days post rehab. And I was also confused about the setting. It looks like she's in bed, getting out of bed and Jacks is there. He was fully clothed. I'm not saying they boinked. It just seemed more intimate of a setting than I thought it.

would be yeah i don't know if there's anything there i don't think so i don't think so i'm just i'm recap i'm painting a picture for you guys at home yeah but she calls him out for drink he's out of rehab for five days he's been going to jacks every night since he got out yep and he's pulling a head of the hospital from gray's anatomy i don't if he saw those episodes but he's asking them or was it doctor house was it house or was it crazy anatomy it doesn't matter he's telling the bartender to pour vodka on the rocks and pretending like he's just drinking water, which is just absolutely insane. I actually thought of Shannon the door, but yeah, go on.

That too. That would be a more relevant reference for sure. But that's insane. That's crazy. You're out of rehab for five days, and you've drank every night seemingly. Pretending that the alcohol is something else, you've literally learned nothing, and you relapsed the second that you got out and your response to hiding, drinking at the bar, telling people it's water, is to tell Brittany, I didn't.

go to rehab for alcohol or mental health facility i went from my mental health whatever well i think that it still just goes to show you that like we can't believe that he was even there for the whole time because i think that's that's very early on in your diagnosis is hey you know there's something deeper here you're using the alcohol you're using the drugs for things but the alcohol isn't the problem up front he's like oh great so he just turned his brain off and he's like cool i can't wait to get out of here and start drinking again and telling everybody that alcohol is not my problem or he wasn't there the whole time and he left immediately and he's like cool i got the answers that i needed it's my anger guys it's anger and mental health problems because i'm a happy drunk i'm okay

that's that's what he took from it yeah and you're 100% right because that's what they tell the alcohol is the symptom of something deeper that pushed you into the bottle yeah he heard that and said i'm not an alcoholic great yeah hell yeah and i think everything that he's doing it and going back to the scene with jessey where he talks about how, you know, all I really want to do, like, I'm just hanging out here. I could just go down at the bar and just get shit-faced and just not worry about it. I've got to do that. That was a test.

He's just testing the waters to see what people say back to that. And at some point, some people are going to say, I don't give a fuck what you do. He's going to take that as, okay, cool, approval. Yeah, we're cool. All right, great. I'm actually going to get out here right now. I'm cool. You're cool?

We're cool. You want to drink with me? J.K., unless you're serious. Yeah. High five. But now he's, this is, it just perplexes me anyway. And I've not gotten into the habit of trying to understand what Jacks is saying and what he's doing, because I probably never will. But he's going out there now currently saying, and watch what happens live and on different podcasts and all this shit, talking about how his only regret is that the marriage lasted longer than it should have.

And it's like, okay, so you're not even talking about Cruz, you're not talking about anything that you're talking about on the show currently. You're saying that you didn't want the marriage to last as long. You should have gotten out of there sooner. Brittany should have gotten out of there sooner, depending on how you want to phrase it. that's your regret, but here we're watching you essentially second-guess her opinion on divorce. You're begging. He's begging. Yeah. Like, you're begging to stay together. It's got to be financial, I would imagine. That's the only thing I can make up. He lets it slip during the scene. It's security. It's financial. You were probably cheating on her the whole time and you got away with it for so long that it works.

Yep. Why change it? If it's not broke, don't fix it, you know? That's his vibe, but I'm so glad that Brittany's the 10 toes down. She's standing on business. I love the line where she's like, you know, Cruz has not come into your house any time soon. I don't trust you. I don't trust that there's not going to be nasty women over there. And then she just looks at him. This was so satisfying. She's like, you're so gross. Like, you're just disgusting.

I was like, finally. There you go. Oh, that felt so good. See it. Yeah. And she. That weird glow that he had while you were married to him. It's completely gone.

Yep. He's just a sweaty piece of shit. Exactly. But watching her get to that, it's taken so fucking long to get there. But watching that realization finally set in was genuinely satisfying. And then he realizes, and you see it happen, he realizes he's not cracking through. And he stands up and goes, well, I just came over to set boundaries for Cruz. Like, why are you yelling at?

Why are you trying to destroy the father of your child? Are you fucking serious guy? You destroyed yourself. He's trying to pity party. He's trying to. He's trying to make himself look better. I came over here. We have two people that had different agendas here.

Brittany, I'm not really sure if it was like premeditated that she was going to go off on him. But I think she was allowing herself to do that. Yeah. And she knew that that was going to happen or it was going to turn into a screaming match. So get Cruz out of here. Fine. Jacks came over with the intention of not being the one to yell. Yes.

Not being the one to raise it. Just trying to stay level-headed so that if Brittany were to do this, then he can paint her as crazy. Points the finger at her. He tried every trick in the book. The problem was that Britney was making too much sense, even the Jacks, which is his dumb brain. Somehow it got through to him. He's like, fuck, this isn't going anywhere. And she's making a ton of sense.

She's being poignant. It makes sense to me. That's a problem. I don't know what to do. And he started spiraling. He did. He literally started spiraling. I love the good old-fashioned walk away, but not really walk away.

Walk away, walk back. I'm going to go sit on the bench in the hallway. Two times that happened. Walked out, walked back, walked out, sat on the bench to finish this conversation with her. And you get more of him blaming her. You know, he's talking about her holding the anger over him and using it as a weapon to not see your kid. And this drives me fucking insane. And I'm going to pull from personal experience a little bit.

Because when my shit got really bad, I didn't see my daughter for six months. And I will live with that for the rest of my life. The thing that got me through rehab and helped me stay sober was the second that I got out. I knew one thing and one thing only is that I had to fix my relationship with my daughter who was two at the time, which is a blessing because she doesn't have to remember that side of me. And I wanted to get straight to building that relationship and fixing all of that and getting her back in my life. That's all I fucking thought about. So that's the difference. I didn't at any point blame anybody else but myself for the situation that I was in.

I fucked it all up. I got to fix it now. Pull up your bootstraps and let's get to fucking work. This guy wants to go do everything else, start drinking again, point the finger at his ex-wife, who he abused for years emotionally and physically, to the point that she is in tears any time that he's brought up. And he wants to point the finger at her instead of at any point stopping and looking in the mirror and going, hmm, you know what?

maybe I should tone it down. Maybe I should leave the show if I really care about my son, hunker down, do the work so that I can be in his life. Instead of trying to come up with excuses time and time again, why it's not his fault, how other people are keeping him from his son, how his marriage was destroyed, 10 years down the drain because his wife quit on it, rather than I pushed her so far and she gave me 600 chances to fix it. And now I'm fixing it, Brady, I'm going to therapy. I'm taking my medication. It's way too for that. It's so tough for me personally to watch this and to know that there's producers that are trying to paint this in a redemption arc light, knowing what I went through and had to go through

how hard that was for me. And this guy has no fucking clue. And yet he wants to take that badge of honor of going to fix himself for his kid when he actually didn't do any of it. No. And he didn't do any of it. And he doesn't care. And it's very apparent. And I think the line that hit the most for the audience and probably hit jacks the most was brittany saying i don't want cruz to grow up like you boom and you don't want cruise to grow up like you that was the that was that was the that was the thing that finally hit him and he's like fuck and i think maybe deep down there might be a semblance of a human being somewhere in there because i think that actually landed on that hit him and i think the initial comment of i don't want him to turn out anything like you stung i think it was full

bore after she said and you don't want that either and jacks went fuck me yep i got to go Fuck me. I hate myself. Yep, I'm leaving. See you later. I can't do this anymore. He also tried to sneak in, which we haven't seen since VPR. This is like just as bad as when my dad died. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we heard that one too. Oh, I haven't heard that one in a while. Get the fuck out of here, bro. Get out of here. It's so dumb. It's all of your own doing. And God, it felt really good again when Brittany's like, you know what? I can't even look at you.

I can't look at you. And he's like, why? Why do you think, bitch? Get out of the house. See you. Bye. I do. Again, don't let you.

The door hit. You get you in your fat head on the way out, you piece of taint. Piece of taint? Yep. All right. Let's get to some questions. Oh, here you go. From Steph Rossler, R.D.

Is it just mirro does the ring tattoo just solidify the chasing did something? Exactly. Here it goes. You didn't like the comments before. You're not going to like them now. God, I love our audience. God. Oh, here's a hot take.

Here now. Fine basement flower. and it cuts off. Hot take, do we actually want Jacks to leave? He brings the drama and chaos. I don't know, mixed feelings. Yeah, and we do ultimately want Jacks to leave. If you need any evidence, go back to Hawaii when he wasn't present.

Great episode. It went back to being a pretty good show, at least. A lot more comments about Jason's ring tattoo than Jacks. I love that. I did want to put a disclaimer like, hey, we are going to talk about Jack's being kicked off the show. So you don't really have to ask us those questions. but you guys kind of got the point. As you guys always do, that's why we love you.

That's why we're all here. Is Jason getting a tat proving that he's a total bitch boy? Yes. From Beck Gibbo. Yep. Oh, here you go. From Petravan was Jacks re-gifting Schwartz's orchids? Look, I think so.

I really do. There's no chance that Jacks went to a fucking flower shop. No. Got an orchid. No, unless he was like a gas station buying a pounder And there was like those random ones by the front door Oh, from Angie Fox Could Jacks be coaching Janet and Jason behind the scenes

It might explain their loyalty That's a positive, I wouldn't put it past But I don't, they don't strike me as dumb people And that would be one of the dumbest moves he could do Janet's already watched all the game tape anyway She's a fan Ah, who knows This is funny

From Hell and J. Harm The theory is Jacks doesn't have a driver's license. We never see him drive except for the golf cart. It's probably suspended. It might be suspended. Yeah, we haven't ever seen him drive. It's a really good point. Oh, wow. Wow.

From Eliza Taylor, Will Bravo edit Jacks out of the Valley Reunion since it's already filmed? I really hope so. No, there's no chance. No, it's his final farewell. He's going to be back in some capacity, not on TV, but he's going to make a loud splash trying to do

Oh, he's going to do so many dumb-ass podcasts. He's going to do a watch party Valley podcast probably. More than likely, at Jackson's. You can't stop a podcast. You can cancel his tour if you're a venue or whatever. But if he's got a podcast, he's going to do it. And there are, unfortunately, a lot of Bravo people, bloggers and content creators that will listen for the sake of hot takes.

No, don't give him the numbies. You don't deserve it. Oh, I really hope this isn't true. But from lay fletch purrs. Do you think that Sheena and Lala may come into play more so that Janet gets some backup? Yes, I do. I've seen Lala in like six weeks. No, I don't know.

How many episodes do we have left? Maybe three? Oh, one. Oh, wow. The finale next week. Okay. I have a very bad feeling that the departure of Jax means a lot more. Shina, Lala, and Schwartz next season, which, look,

Getting jacks off the show is hard enough. I don't want them to shoot the show in the foot immediately after finally getting rid of them. I don't know. They're definitely going to make moves like that. You can expect at least one of them to be full time next season. That's my hot take. Yeah. And I would imagine the friend of Roel is going to ramp up a little bit because they're going to have to fill that void.

And how do you fill that void? They're going to go back to what they always do and just pull somebody that they know already that we don't want to see. but they don't give a fuck and they're going to shove them down our throat. That's what's going to happen. That's a really good point. Yeah, all these comments are really just about the ring tattoo. Good job, guys.

You guys get it. Nothing else, though. So we'll end up there. Yeah. That felt good. I don't know. I felt like I released tension watching this episode and talking about it as well. It was like the final, like I think Jacks is really almost gone.

I feel like he took a huge shit. Like two of them. Two? Yeah. Oh. And I've been eating a lot of protein lately, so, you know, it's a little stuffed up. What? Too graphic.

Oh, my bad guys. For our audience. Well, I like to be open and honest with our audience. So I'm telling you where I'm at, everybody. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. What's our show?

These bros got to go. Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom. You want to tell them? Or you want me to tell them? No, no, no. I got this. I want people out there.

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