Bros & Shows - Bronus Episode #2- Below Deck Ep 4+5
Episode Date: August 29, 2022Welcome back on the boat with our second Bronus episode! This week we continue our voyage with the crew and welcome Simon aboard. We discuss the "sparks" (or lack thereof) between CJ and Sam. Then we ...recap Simon and his entourage of walking disasters. Kat gets thrown to the wolves at a dinner where Simon crosses so far beyond the line that it pushes Kat to jeopardize her career via alcohol.. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another bronis episode of the brav bros.
We are here to recap some below deck with you for a little Monday and Sunday.
installment. I'm joined as always by my favorite co-host, Shooter Magooder shoots. How are you today?
Doing great. You know, love below deck. Got to say, though, a little confused when I turned on
below deck today because there was no third episode. I had to do some digging on that one.
Yeah, you texted me to ask, and I didn't even realize that because I was just kind of like
rolling through them and it had like the continual play. So I just thought it was a new episode or
it was episode three. But when you said that, it reminded me,
There was, like, the recap before episode four has scenes from episode three.
And I was confused because, like, did I miss an episode?
Like, what's going on?
Now, I didn't care enough to go back and do any digging.
So I was like, huh, I must have just missed a scene.
I must have, like, went to the bathroom or something.
But no, apparently an entire episode was cut.
Yeah, it was, it was weird because they started off episode four talking about how CJ and Sam had hooked up.
And I'm like, I don't remember that from the episode, too.
And then I went back to the, I was watching on the Peacock app, no free plugs here,
went back to the Peacock app, looked at it, and I went to four.
So then I did some digging, went on YouTube, I went to Hulu just to see if it was on there,
nothing, found out that they scrubbed every streaming service of episode three,
which was called, I don't know, it said the word dude in it like five times.
And here they took it out because there were some homophobic comments and jokes and things
tossed around, so they decided just to get rid of it.
Which is odd because, I mean, maybe it was really bad.
I have no idea.
But, I mean, in the first episode, CJ did a straight up, like, Nazi hand signal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they didn't scrub that.
So it must have been terrible for them to scrub it.
Really bad.
I wonder, did it say when it was scrubbed?
No.
Just that it was scrubbed.
Yeah.
I think the date on the article was like 2016 or 2017.
So it's been gone for a couple years.
Well, it brings back, you know, we talked to.
about it a little bit last week. We didn't get that far into it. But 2012, again, we're going to
see things throughout this series and this season where it's like, oh, like you couldn't say that
today. You couldn't do that today. And this just furthers that point. Like, they scrubbed an
entire episode that had been on the air, I mean, probably for years until 2016 or 17 or whenever
the article came out that it was scrubbed. But we're at a different time. Yeah.
things are now i do like the 2012 references i love the 2012 fashion style like Alex was out of
the bar in like the caribbean in a hundred degree heat rocking a fucking beanie i hated that i hated
we saw it right away i'm like look at that with those eyebrows and he's got that beanie on like
what are you doing and you try to get that hair under control man i think that's what it is yeah i mean
he's he probably ran out of a hair gel he uses a whole tube on it just to spike it up i think
he just sticks his head out of the front of the boat, like as waves are coming by. It just
makes his hair stick up like that. But I am very anti-beeney in warm weather. It drives me
nuts. It's not practical. It doesn't look cool. No, I'm a sweaty dude. So, like, you'll see
beads of sweat dripping down in the middle of the winter. If you're wearing a beanie in warm
weather, you're doing too much. You're trying too hard. Knock it off because I don't care for it.
Let's get back below deck. I was actually going to intro with
a pirate reference again like a pirate phrase did that do well last week do we know i um i don't know
i haven't heard from anybody it's like your rob-huh thing you didn't see any ahoi maties yeah
no one said ahoy or like ha ha i loved the intro so maybe it fell flat i don't know it felt good
i think you should keep doing it now a vast you scurrie there we go all right we got one of those
in an episode before we before we're allowed on the boat um so we're back um on my honor and
You already referenced it.
You know, CJ and Sam apparently hook up.
We're going to see this relationship kind of blossom
throughout this season, if you want to say that.
Or lack thereof.
But it's just funny because, like, as the episode goes on, we see,
they do a lot of cutscenes on below deck,
which I appreciate because you get instant feedback from both parties.
They do a lot of that with CJ and Sam,
and it's hysterical because they're talking to Sam.
Cat's talking to Sam and it's like, oh, you hooked up, you made out with him.
She's like, yeah.
No, I don't know.
Like, I don't really remember.
Like, she plays that card, which of course you remember.
Like, you're lying right now.
But she asked, like, was he a good kisser?
She was like, I don't really remember.
I don't really remember.
And Flash to CJ and he's like, I can tell, dude, she really likes me.
He did that like two or three more times, too, which is so funny.
And like, this is obviously like early Bravo or.
at least early, this is the first season for them.
So to see the Bravo producers and editors are on their point right then and there,
like that's good.
I like to see that.
Yeah, they've been on their shit since day one, apparently.
But we get a little run-through of the guests.
I love that part of the show where, like, you get a whole breakdown of who we get to see on the boat,
like who's about to enter our world.
And this guy, I guess, was like an early Google guy.
Yeah, and it's Adrian's friend.
So right off the bat, we're like, oh, fuck.
This is going to be tough.
And she's singing his praises.
She's like, Simon's the best.
Simon's great.
And she hugs him all intimately when he gets on.
And she's like rubbing his shoulder.
And we're like, oh, God.
That was intimate.
The hug that Simon gave her was aggressive.
It was gropey.
Even Sam was like, yeah, that was like pretty gropey of a hug.
And I feel like Sam in that situation and really any situation that Adrian's going to be in,
she's always going to look at it negatively.
For sure.
But, I mean, the rest of us,
home like we understand to how like i don't like adrian i think she's too uptight she's weird and
seeing her in a situation like this right away i was like oh yeah god now it may it skewed me out
yeah even like knowing that she had like and i'm jumping around a little bit but like knowing
that she had a boyfriend or didn't if you asked sam and seeing him talk to her he seemed like a normal
guy he was like giving her like real like world advice as to what's going on cooper his name
is Cooper first or last name oh interesting well that's what they were talking about
sam and cow were talking about that like who saves somebody's last like if it's your boyfriend
what are you calling him by his last name um but he seemed pretty real but that hey to that
coline calls you Sean yeah she doesn't call you shooter she's one of the few people in the world
that doesn't call you show my whole family you know people who knew me before high school
people who knew me after high school call you Sean yeah you don't interpret
introduce yourself a shooter?
Absolutely not.
You're an idiot.
It's my stage name.
No, it's not.
It's your name name.
It is now.
When people say Sean around me, I don't know who they're talking about.
I have to be like, who.
I'm like, oh, yeah, shooter.
But anyway, besides the point.
So, yeah, so the guests come on, obviously post weird Adrian hug interaction.
And you can tell the rest of the crew is just like dismal.
They're like, ooh, Adrian's friends, these are going to be some weird people.
I don't like how they're coming on.
the energy that they were portraying when they came on was weird.
The one woman, I don't know who she was to Simon,
but she immediately has Sam unpacking everything,
and all of the clothing is still tagged.
It's like she went to Bloomingdale's and just got everything,
like a whole wardrobe,
and she had, as Sam says, like 50 linen shirts and dresses that she had to have iron.
You have linen in humid weather packed into a bag.
That's a fucking nightmare.
Linen in humid weather.
Yeah, it packed into a bag.
That's what I mean, it wrinkles.
wearing it makes sense.
Oh, no, I'm not saying the wearability.
I'm saying getting it prepared to wear out.
And these charters are, what, two or three days, tops?
No, I think some of them were weak.
This was not a week.
No.
Unless they don't film the whole thing.
Probably, but when they introduced us to, you know,
sort of like the rundown of how it all works,
they said it's about $100,000 for a week.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean you have to rent it.
No, I mean, well, the first charter was 24 hours.
Well, that was because they did cocaine and got kicked off the boat.
But regardless, you don't need 50 items of clothing on a boat, especially if you're not really leaving the boat because the one time they do leave the boat and we'll get there in a minute.
But the only time they leave the boat, they immediately come back because they're too stuck up to go to like an island bar and get a burger and just like shut the fuck up for a minute.
But whatever.
Let's start with the breakfast because we instantly start seeing where these issues are going to start popping.
up with this crew. And for the record, like, I was scratching my skin off watching this episode
because of these people. I couldn't stand their behavior. I thought it was disgusting. It was,
it was deplorable. And, like, those are the kinds of people that I dislike more than anybody
on the planet. I will say one thing about these people. Sam made them, I mean, this is before,
obviously, the whole thing with the cat happened, but Sam made these people out to be white,
trash rich people because they wanted her to unpack their clothing for her.
Yeah, she said.
Like, seriously, like, Sam, this is your job.
You're the lowest of the totem pole.
So that's where I can actually, like, side with Adrian a little bit.
And I say that lightly.
But every single task that Sam is given, there is some kind of retort where she's not
thrilled.
And it's like, she literally says the sentence, you know, it's 75 degrees and sunny.
And we're in the Caribbean.
and it's beautiful out and like I wouldn't know because I'm stuck like no at that point like
yeah you're stuck below deck because it's your fucking job yeah like that's laundry that's what
she doesn't understand and thankfully we had and I'm starting to realize that Alex maybe Alex and
Ben are sort of like the voices of reason I mean you get Eddie comes in sometimes and he helps
out but like he's the comic relief he is he's comic relief that's a good role for him but
Alex was in the laundry room when Adrian was talking to Sam and the last time that we had an
Adrian Sam confrontation when they were having dinner, Alex stuck up for Sam and said,
Adrian needs to back the fuck off.
This is free time right now.
We don't talk about work.
Don't get on her right now.
It's not, doesn't make any sense.
He's there again and he's like, I'm starting to see why Sam is a thorn on the side of
Adrian.
Like Adrian comes down and just wants her to do her job.
And Sam's giving all these ridiculous answers and sarcasm and everything like that.
And literally all she has to do, she's like, I'm going to be stuck inside all day, just
unpacking clothes and stuff.
So what?
That's your job.
That's the title that comes with being astute.
Like whatever they ask for, no matter how annoying, you have to do it.
So at that point, like, I'm on Ben's side here because when Ben gets asked to make something different or somebody doesn't like his food or whatever, he has a little brief moment of like, what the fuck?
And then he just does it because like he goes up to see the guest and he's like, yeah, well, what do you want?
And the guy wants like the most basic bitch omelet I've ever heard in my life.
Yeah.
And you're on a fucking...
What did he say?
He said half white?
Half white.
Half white with American cheese and bacon.
And there's nothing wrong with a good bacon omelet.
Don't come me wrong.
American cheese slaps.
But just because he brings out a frittata and this is where I actually agree with like the
they are classless.
It's like if you don't understand the food that's in front of you, like what's a frittata?
What do you mean?
What's a frittata?
I'm not saying that everyone in the world knows what a frittata is,
but if you're like fancy and you go to like nice restaurants or nice brunches,
like I guarantee 90% of nice brunches either have a quiche or a frittata.
Well, I'm willing to bet that Simon is, if not bankrupt,
no longer this rich because what I got from these guests was these are his friends from Jersey
that he brought down because they're from Jersey.
At the very end, they gave their business card.
And he's like, if you're ever in Jersey, give me a shout.
Like, fuck no.
But he brings his friends who are not rich.
He probably made a ton of money on Google early.
And maybe he's probably not like a tech investor or anything like that.
He probably just won the lottery, essentially, and brought his loser friends on a trip.
And it shows.
And it definitely shows.
It totally shows.
And even the women at the, sorry, not to cut you out, just real quick.
Like, at the breakfast table, the one woman is like, you need to get on them about serving us.
We shouldn't be reaching across the table.
It's like it's a serve yourself situation.
She was complaining that her coffee wasn't piping hot.
Yeah.
Like what?
Understand that, you know, have a little grace.
Give them a little grace.
You're on a fucking boat like in St. Bart's.
Like just shut up and drink your probably still hot coffee.
Yeah.
And if there's four different frittatas laying out in front of it,
you want somebody to walk over and pick out each individual slice that you want for your plate
and do that with eight people, that's crazy.
But they get done the breakfast and, like, we get to see them kind of messing around with the toys on the boat.
And then they're, like, laying out.
And this moment, like, really pissed me off.
They're already a little drunk, you can tell.
And they're all, like, sitting together.
And he's like, Simon is laying on his back.
And someone walks over and puts, like, sunscreen on his face, like, fucking war paint.
And he goes, woo.
And as a Native American, like, that's why I'm saying that.
Yeah.
But, like, not fucking cool.
And then immediately after that, it's like, we could invade out the Steve guys.
Like, we can get sticks and spears and invade the island.
I was like, well, you know what he said to?
He was like, maybe not in these, like, nice shorts that we're wearing.
And they pan down and he's got like some normal ass board shorts on.
Yeah, he's wearing like, that was the funniest part.
And this is why I think that your theory of them being like new money slash like these guys are tagging along.
their idea of like class and fashion my man's wearing affliction t-shirts off of the boat yeah you're on a
very 2012 20 million dollar yacht you are a google exec or a google earlier i think he's just an
investor yeah and you're wearing a goddamn affliction t-shirt that says valhalla on it when you get
off of this yacht like i the whole everything about them was embarrassing to me and like the way
they acted that that you would think would be like one of the
their worst moments is like the Native American comments but no it wasn't even close and like we'll get
there but the first dinner that they have they have these like Ben I love Ben Ben is such a great
chef and I love watching I think I like this show honestly because of the kitchen scenes with Ben
like I love watching him work he puts together such a good dish and you can see like how happy he is
and even like referring to this which was what like it was mangoes lobster
On a wanton, and it was like a play on a taco, but it was like...
And it had this cool, like, cilantro sauce.
Salonra crema on top.
It was awesome looking.
And he was like, this is, you know, it's not the most exotic food in the world, but, you know, it's simple and it's good.
And this is what they want.
It's elevated, good, simple food.
Elevated, all right.
Yeah, I see.
I'm bringing it in.
Ha-ha.
But the dude at the table, Steve, fucking Steve, I was like, I don't want any of this.
I love lobster, but, like, I don't want to.
No, no. He said I would eat that white meat right there. I would eat that. That's what he said.
I would eat that white meat right there. So you even know what it was. Yeah. He probably thought it was
chicken. He's like a five-year-old that you have to lie to when you feed them food and say that
everything is chicken nuggets. Like eat your chicken and it's like lobster. Eat your chicken. It's
crab. Like just don't tell the five-year-old what they're eating and they're going to like it.
That's kind of what he is. And he was like, I just want something simple. I'm a very plain guy.
You know, I wrote that on my resume coming in or whatever, like my info card coming in. So they should
know this. And now he's getting annoyed because they're giving him food that, again, isn't that
complicated, isn't that exotic? You don't have to have like a really elevated palate for it.
No. But here he is bitching and complaining because there's too much going on there. And all he
honestly, like all he really wanted was no cilantro and no mango, I guess. That's it.
Because then take that off yourself, my guy, but like nothing makes me more frustrated,
especially as a private chef. You can't claim you.
don't like it if you haven't tried it.
You didn't even try it.
You can't tell me that, like, I can't for the life of me imagine looking at that plate,
that beautiful plate of food and be like, that can't be good.
No, he pulled a chef, honestly, like, chef does the same things.
He's like, I'm a playing guy.
I know what I like, and everybody gives them shit.
And he's like, I've tried these things before.
And somebody even said, and out of these people, which is ridiculous, to even think
they have any logic, they said something to Steve.
And they're like, Steve, you don't know if you like it.
Why don't you try it?
He's like, I've tried it before.
I don't like it.
I've tried it.
Tried what?
Like,
when have you ever had this?
They don't make this.
When did you had it?
Because he says,
I just,
I don't want it with the guacamole on it.
Yeah.
And how are you going to look at that green sauce?
Well, no,
and then somebody said it's wasabi.
It's wasabi.
And then he goes,
Wasababobbi,
I don't care what it is.
I don't want it.
Yeah.
It's like,
dude,
I don't think you know what any of these things are.
You know what he lands on?
And I almost had a heart attack.
He brings him out the lobster plane and he dips it in fucking ketchup.
Oh my God.
He thought it was chicken.
Again, again, that just, that reiterates what I'm saying.
That really does.
He's a five-year-old that's only eating chicken nuggets.
I'll dip my chicken finger and my ketchup.
Yeah.
Like, I almost lost it when I saw him dip lobster.
And I have to imagine this is like the freshest of the fresh just caught from the water that you are sitting in.
Yep.
They probably bought that shit from a dude on the shore.
And you dipped it in Heinz 57.
That's ludicrous.
That is disrespectful to the lobster itself.
Yeah, it is.
But I could do this all.
I could start my own podcast about just this dinner and their interactions with his food,
but I'm not going to do that to you.
Sam and Kat are having a little powwow, like a little intimate moment in their quarters.
And Sam has hung like photos all over her room of her family.
And there's one in the bathroom, I guess, of her sister who passed away.
We find out.
And they start talking about, you know, how did she?
pass and I thought Kat was a little too invasive with her questioning I didn't think so I thought
she was being nice I no no I she was genuine like it was a heartfelt moment I don't think she was being
malicious I don't think she was trying to be rude I think we're so used to the housewives like there's
definitely an agenda here no no I don't think there was any agenda I think she was genuinely
trying to connect and just be sweet to her it was just like she had no she was very uncouth if you will
oh I like that yeah because she's like did you have to identify the body it's like well you don't
have to answer that.
Yeah, that's fucking wild.
That's too far.
Like Sam just,
yeah,
Sam just told Kat that she had to go see the body and like give her a kiss goodbye.
And she was like, she was ice cold.
And Kat's like, oh, you had to go identify that.
Like, oh, Jesus.
No, she asked her before that.
Then she was right before that.
And she said, did your parents have to go identify the body?
Yeah.
And she said, I had to go.
And she said, oh my God, you had to go and like asked her about the experience doing it.
And that was that conversation.
But yeah, I thought she was a little too invasive.
That is a little too specific, yeah.
But it was a sweet moment because cats, you know, cat's crying and Sam's not.
Yeah.
And Sam's like, you're going to make me cry.
She's like, it's okay.
It's okay to cry.
Yeah.
And like you have this moment and you hear more about why Sam got into yachting.
And it's because of her sister because at her funeral, she said that people from all over the world came out to pay their respects, which like really touched her because she had no idea and her family had no idea that she touched this many lives.
and it kind of inspired her to try out the yachting world.
And it's just nice to, like, connect even with Sam that I'm not really enjoying that much.
I think she kind of sucks.
Like, Adrian's way worse, but Sam's not easy to get along with either from an employee standpoint.
But it was nice to hear some insight into like, you know, maybe why she acts the way she does and maybe like, and also just like how she got into it.
But I don't know if that's necessarily any excuse for her behavior.
No, no, no, no, no.
it's not at all. I'm just saying I like to understand why the behavior's happening.
Yeah, I get that.
Excuse the behavior.
Well, I will say one thing and then I'll lead into our next topic because I want to ask you.
But I'm probably going to get some shit for this and maybe I'm heartless.
But I just didn't care about that scene.
I was like, get me back to the action.
I want more boating.
I want more of the guests.
I want more of the shit that's going on.
And I get like you have to have something like this to get to know the crew like you said.
But I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay.
But I'm the type of guy that, like, during a movie, I want all action or, like, all plot, like, not these little side stories, like, character development, I guess.
You're saying you're shallow.
I think I might be shallow.
Yeah.
And I'm like, like, like, the love scenes and I'm like, I don't fucking care.
Get back to the main storyline.
Like, enough of this.
Okay.
Well, I do that all the time.
Before you said that where it's just like, this is how you are and who you are, to my point previously, like, I like to figure out, you know, behavior.
It's just so I can.
So thank you for that.
But I was going to say that maybe that's because of the style of show where it's like you get in, get out.
Like the crews change from season to season and it's a new guest every day or every episode.
So maybe that's why.
It could be.
No, no, it's not.
You've already said it's not.
That was my point.
Like I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt before you shot yourself in the foot.
No, I don't think I shot myself in the foot.
You know, this is just preferences by me.
But I will say going into this, I want to ask you something.
And I think we should do this as like a week to week type of thing.
Okay.
What are your current power rankings?
Power rankings.
Okay.
Ben first and foremost, I don't think that's going to change.
Dave.
Okay.
Because he's, you know, he's always cool, call him collected.
Dave and Eddie, honestly, I think.
Put them together, honestly.
Yeah, I would say.
I think those guys are second.
Third is Alex because I honestly, he gets so.
Captain Lee is not being hard
him in a productive way he's just kind of being a dick to you know like with the bowel thing i get
where he's standing on like the front of the boat as they're pulling out and he's like would you stand
on the hood of your car yeah but he doesn't call him a fucking idiot no but he didn't call him a fucking
idiot to his face at least no he said it to nash but still but i my like that i was
understanding of but like then when he's doing the anchor thing like eddie wasn't giving a hand signal
he's like i'm getting two different hand signals you guys need to figure it out yeah and he was
just holding out the back yeah he was holding out the radio right and he was doing out the
Yeah. Right. And he's like, but he's so hypercritical of Alex. And I think it's 100% what Alex said in episode one where he's like, look, I know I'm young. I catch a lot of shit for the fact that like I got my captain's license at 19. And I need to his credit, like he's extremely self-aware to the point. It's like, I know I need to like work my way up. I got like, he's doing everything correctly. He even says like I think that Captain Lee's disrespectful, but I respect my elder. So I'm going to just nod my head and keep quiet. Like he gets how it works.
Yeah, like he's putting in, like, the effort, and I appreciate that he's standing there when
Eddie's holding the, um, walkie up in the air like that.
That's because Alex is taking the time to give him hands on experience where he's like,
look, this is what we look for.
This is how we do it.
I'm going to do it with you.
And when we're done, I'm going to say, great job because gratitude goes a long way.
Yeah.
And in this industry, we see somebody.
It's nice to have the juxtaposition of Adrian doing it her way and Alex doing it his way because
you see how people are.
responding to Adrian like she is very much to micromanage and point point point go do this go
do that go do this right and then she sits in the background where Alex is more go get him with it
and he's like look we're going to jump in this together I'm going to show you how to do it we're
to high five and go our merry way right yeah for sure so who do you have after that um sorry for that
tangent but after that it's cat but in a positive way it's just like I like the other guys better
so far but i love cat and then we get you know sam no cj then sam then adrian and captain lee i think i don't know
if he really counts in the bow right i think he counts i'm gonna put him in mind but let me hear yours yeah i've got
ben at the top alex second and then we'll put eddie and dave together yep and then i'm gonna go
C.J. Although he drives me crazy because the dude constantly has his shirt off.
And when he was at the bar the one time and he's talking, he's like, oh, yeah, like, just been boating my whole life.
You know, that's just my lifestyle. Like, fuck you. But, I mean, for him, like, he's not annoying enough to go lower down.
It's really just like picking your poison after that. Yeah. Then I'll throw in Captain Lee behind CJ because Captain Lee's getting all my nerves.
He's too critical of Alex. And he's been kind of a dick to everyone. He saved himself a little bit in the cat situation, which we'll get to.
but I'll throw
Cat Adrian then Sam
Sam's still so low
I can't stand her disrespect
You're more out on Sam than you are on Adrian
Yeah I think Sam's a loser
Like she's just
Constantly disrespecting Adrian
Like I get where Adrian's coming from
In like 60% of the time
Like yeah she's a little too hard on her
But I think she's kind of moved on and like grown a little bit
Whereas Sam's still just stuck in her like fuck Adrian
She's third steward
I can't like stop I don't understand like yes you have to live with these people yes you have to see them every day but like that doesn't mean that she's not your boss anymore so no like learn your job do your job stop complaining enough of your shit so she's lowest on the totem pole like by far I don't even have her close to anybody else so I love that you just said all that because as you know and as anyone that listened to Bronis episode one I'm deeper into below deck now I can't wait to hear your power rankings.
like five, six, seven.
Yeah, that's why I want to do this every week, just to...
Yeah, I'm pumped.
Actually, I'm glad that I watched it, so I have a different viewpoint because had you
asked me after the first three or four episodes, I would have said the exact same thing
that you did.
I was saying that thing, the same sentence to Dev.
So, oh, this would be fun.
Yeah, let's be good.
I will also say, like, in defense of Captain Lee, I'm not a big Captain Lee fan.
I think he's over the top as well.
But most of the scenes that we get him in are scenes where he is.
is like on he is actually physically working in those moments you'll see throughout the season like
you get cut scenes with captain lee where you see like a nicer guy come out but you really don't see
it other than these cut scenes yeah so i don't know if we get a fair shake of captain lee i agree i'm not
the biggest captain lee fan but i will say like there's moments where you like see him kind of warm and
nice you're like oh like i didn't even know he had that side so right we'll see but after that we go
everyone wakes up
because Simon's blowing a fucking air horn
across the boat
but after the obnoxious wake-up call
we're going for a beach picnic
and after the lunch
it was actually the one redeemable moment
for Simon because he goes in to see Ben
he's like hey we're going to go to shore tonight for dinner
so whatever you're going to make for us
just make it for your crew like relax
have a nice night
so the crew gets like this beautiful
fillet dinner and like they're all happy
because they get the evening off
and you get the, again, the cut scenes are awesome
because now you cut over to the guests
and they pull up to this
this is where he's wearing is like
bedazzled like Ed Hardy T-shirt.
We've gone from Affliction to Ed Hardy now.
Big time 2012.
Yeah, like a huge 2012 moment.
And he goes, you know, they all go to this beach bar
and they're complaining the minute they get off the boat.
Like this is it.
Like this doesn't look classy, blah, blah, blah.
Flashback to the boat.
And they're talking about this is like the second best meal
you've ever made other than like the sea bass and flashback to the restaurant like well if they're not
going to have this and they don't have this then we're just going to go back to the boat and i will agree
with the lady because she's like i don't understand we left a five-star chef and i agree with that i'm
like if you're paying all this money and you have that guy on board like yeah i would never eat
anywhere else well they also got to the restaurant like towards the end of the night like they left
late they even said that they got there and they were getting ready to close
Before they sat down, yeah.
I didn't realize that.
To, like, have some sort of sense and be like, maybe that's on the crew.
Maybe that's less on the actual guests.
But, like, have some sense, like, all right, if you want to go to the island, you want to go have a good time.
I don't know if they wanted to, like, go out or anything afterwards or if they just wanted dinner and go back to the boat.
You know?
Yeah, like go get lunch.
Or, hey, have dinner on the boat.
Like the one woman said, you have a five-star chef on the boat.
You know there's filets on deck, which we find out later they knew.
Get after that and then go out.
I don't understand the thinking here when you're paying this kind of money.
Why would you go to a restaurant that you don't know that it might not be up to snuff
if you have this on the boat waiting for you?
So that was a dumb move by them.
It was really dumb.
And this is where I get confused because we had that,
this is another moment where it's going back and forth between Sam and CJ and all of their shit.
And I'm assuming it's a cut scene from a different time because Eddie and CJ are sitting
top deck with a beer.
you're not allowed to drink on charter that means 24-7 the minute the guests enter the boat
you are on charter until they leave the boat to depart like yeah so it must have been a cutscene
it had to have been yeah um yeah if you haven't know i notice alcohol every time it's on screen
yeah but back at the restaurant they're they're fed up so they're like you know what fuck this
we're leaving we're going back to the boat they had just gotten done eating like everyone's in that
like post dinner like food coma they just had this awesome meal and the walkie hits like
boop hey they're coming back and they want dinner well thankfully CJ had his walkie still on
because they looked they looked at cat and sam they're like maybe you should turn your walkies on so
you know these things he's like I just heard it in my ear they're coming back and they're sitting
around like relaxing they're probably expecting like at least two more hours three more hours to
themselves to kind of like decompress maybe catch up on the laundry and the unpacking for sam
but yeah here we go
they'll be back in 15 minutes
get on your nighttime attire
get ready for everything
like we're gonna give them food
Ben get back in the kitchen
and Ben's like fuck
I guess like I'll throw something together
for them
and here they come up
and the first thing Simon says was
he's like so what were you guys really doing
asking Sam and Sam's like
oh you know just like kind of
hanging out like resting
no no what were you really doing
and I know you're a bad liar he says to her
and she's like well you know we ate
dinner what'd you eat like really grilling
her. No, she's like, we had some fillets. Yeah. He's like, I knew it. And then the one lady's like,
are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Like, Simon told them to eat the filets. How are you going to have
that kind of reaction? I guess he didn't specifically say eat the fillets. He said, eat the dinner
you're going to prepare for us. Which Simon being the ringleader of this whole circus
should have known what was on the menu for that night. So if he's sitting there, he could have
quietly told everybody else like, hey, I told them to eat whatever was on tap for tonight. They're
probably going to have fillets just so you know.
But yeah, it adds insult to injury because they just had to leave a restaurant knowing that
there was nothing on the menu anymore.
They couldn't get what they wanted.
So they come back and they're furious.
And yeah, that one woman over and over like, are you serious?
Are you kidding me?
Are you serious?
Like, shut up.
Yeah.
Like enough.
And then it just, I mean, we go downhill real quick because the first comment that Simon makes
is did you, all three of these girls have really nice tits?
Yes, Dave.
No, no, not yet.
Oh, no.
The first thing he says is to, like, the table in general, like, all three of these girls
are really nice kids.
And then fast forward, Katz standing there, and he asked Dave, did you notice that she
has really nice tits?
And Dave's like, I keep my eye level a little bit higher.
And it's like, I can't imagine a moment like that where a man would think that that
is an okay thing to say.
I don't care if you're paying a hundred thousand.
dollars for a two-day trip.
I don't care if you're paying a million dollars for a two-day trip.
Like, these are people.
They are employees on the boat that you're working on,
and he objectifies her to the point where he's like,
go get me a flashlight.
I'm going to show you something really cool.
But as this whole scene is kind of unfolding,
like cat dips below deck real quick,
and the minute she grabbed the Vitico,
I was like, I know what she's doing.
Yeah, she turned the camera.
And she slugs it first, and then she turns,
the camera way and I'm like well she's drinking and she is not the kind of person that can have one or
two and not be noticeable like the instant that she walks out of her cabin she's fucking hammered
and noticeably so like she starts yelling and laughing and carrying on she's talking to CJ with her
accent and it's funny because like these people have lived together for three weeks four weeks
however long it's been they've been around each other constantly they've gone out together
they've had to work together so they know each other's tendencies and what they do and cj immediately
said like i know what to look for with cat when she starts drinking the accent the accent comes out
she's she gets louder she's joking she laughs at everything and this is what it is and cj's just
sitting there like i don't know what you want me to do and adrian knows right away like adrian comes
around looks at cj and she's like was she drinking do you think she's drinking so i don't know if
somebody told adrian and then she came and checked on cj or if adrian had kind of seen it herself but
Adrian seems to always be looking at things.
She's like a fucking hawk with these girls.
But she comes back.
CJ's like,
I'm not going to say anything.
I don't know.
So leave it at that.
But Adrian's like crying in the laundry room.
Like,
I don't know what to do with her.
She's going to lose her.
And I thought that that was actually like a nice moment, I guess, for her
where she's like actually concerned about her crewmate or she's concerned because
Kat's clearly like a better crewmate.
Yeah.
Like she's a much better student Sam.
She'd be like get her out.
Yeah.
She would have whacked her immediately.
But because it's cat, like she shows genuine concern.
in that moment. And this is why I very quickly realized that was for selfish reasons
because we go back to the whole scene upstairs and this time Kat goes back up and now she's
drunk. And this is when he starts doing the flashlight thing and starts asking about the
CCs. This is when that comes up. And she at this point is so fit up. She's like just answering
the questions and just like but begrudging that you can tell like she's doing it in not where
she's actually answering but she's actually like upset about it. Well, we've had this discussion
with Kat before in the first episode with Johnny
eyelash where she felt so
bad because she thought she'd ruined the whole trip
before the guests. So she really
doesn't have that line where she's like, all right,
I need to make sure the guests are happy.
I need to make sure they're happy. And when they
cross that line, she gets really
uncomfortable, but she doesn't stop helping
the guests. So she doesn't really know when to turn
it off and be like, no, I can't
do this. So she doesn't have like
that limit. So it gets her
into these situations all the time where
she gets really hard on herself. She gets very
emotional now she's drinking and possibly taking Xanax because she said that she had that
and here she is just like in this gray area answering these questions these fucking like perverts
with the women sitting there like that was probably his wife and like his friend and his wife
and so on and so forth and they're sitting there like the wives are like in dismay like what the
fuck are you doing but they can't but this just furthers the thing of Simon paid for this whole thing
So he's just doing whatever the fuck he wants and nobody can say a word about it.
Like with the air horn, like with everything else that he's doing.
So they're just like letting him go and not really trying to stop him.
They don't try to re-limit at all.
They just like passively say like, oh, like bring it in, bring it in.
But like they don't really mean it.
And thank God Ben was there because he like realizes, oh, like we need to get her off the deck.
Like get her off a service.
Send her to bed.
And this is where Adrian shows that it was selfish about being worried about Kat.
because she's talking to Ben and she's, like, defending Simon.
The scene that was going on upstairs was appalling.
Yeah.
It was really, really gross.
And for her to even try to defend, she's like, well, I didn't hear the conversation.
It's like, you don't have to, okay?
And this dynamic, whether you know these people or not, you are chiefs do.
Your job is to protect your crew, period.
And instead of doing that, she does the opposite because she goes to talk to Kat about it.
And she says, you're a big girl.
Like, you can tell them that.
tell him to leave you alone.
Like, he doesn't control your actions.
It's like, that's your fucking response.
She was going to victim blame after they're upstairs, like, degrading her, sexualizing her.
Like, this is her job.
She doesn't feel safe at her job to the point that she jeopardized her job by drinking.
And Kat has been on the show for a few seasons, or at least season, too.
Like, she's a very good stew.
Like, people like working with her.
She works hard.
So for you to push her to the point where she would jeopardize her career by drinking,
and you're going to take their side because you know the guy
and you're defending a dude that groped you on the way in.
Like, this really didn't sit well with me.
And the fact that she could even kind of defend it was she's as bad as they are.
No, and honestly, like, when we knew that these guests were coming on
and that they were friends of Adrian, that's my first thought was, oh, fuck.
Like, Adrian's going to be either super uptight with everybody,
making sure everything's perfect, which she did.
but we didn't really see a lot of pushback
except for Sam
and she's going to take the guest side
if things get ugly
and that's exactly what she did.
She was victim blaming like you said
which is fucking terrible to do
because you can see cats
in this state of like hysteria
freaking out like why is this happening
I don't know what to do do I keep them happy
do I look out for myself
I feel like I have no backup from my boss
Adrian regardless of the drinking part
like Ben I think would have been like
we need to pull her off service, period.
Even if she was completely sober.
And Ben's seasoned.
Ben's very seasoned.
So he understands.
Like these things happen.
Like these guests, they'll get drunk.
They'll get rowdy.
And the first thing they look at, especially if it's a group of guys and there's
girls on the ship, they're going to look to them.
And they're going to objectify.
And like.
And it's happened.
It already happened the first episode with those model guys.
And now it's happening again.
And thank God Ben stepped in because it didn't look like anybody else was going to.
She was just hanging out there in limbo.
I think Dave, it hits his first yachting.
trip so I think he is not sure where the line is of like what you put up with and Ben like you said
he gets like okay we need to change this dynamic real quick get her off service like the drinking
I don't think played a part I mean it did obviously but it was irrelevant like they would have
pulled her regardless I agree yeah is defending them and then like fast forward to the next day
and you know Kat's trying to gauge the damage like she's trying to figure out like
how fucked she is like if people really knew she's trying to figure out what the dynamic is now
between her and adrian and they have like a really awkward conversation where cats like you seem
off like something seems off and we talk about it and adrian's like no we can't so she's like
stuck in this limbo waiting to hear what's going on waiting to hear how adrian really feels about it
luckily thank god the guests are leaving like we're done with simon and crew like i couldn't watch
it wasn't even entertaining for me it was just gross no it was like 30 minutes of television
And it worked out well for this podcast episode because it was two episodes of the same crew, same guests and everything.
So like we can lump it in.
We can lump it all together.
But yeah, I mean, to your point, like, Kat's just sitting there.
And thank, I mean, I, it was weird that Sam was even there.
Like, why would she bring Sam in to talk to Kat about something the cat did?
I think that was her not understanding what it means to be a boss.
I think that's true.
And we see that a lot.
She was trying to make it a point to be like, I'm going to reprimand her in front of you so you know.
Well, she started off by reprimanding them for.
not doing all of the things that she asked them to do.
And Sam gives a great, like, opinion on how to make it better.
I mean, she didn't take the best tact when she did it.
But she's like, why don't we have a three person rotation or at the very least, like two
and a half, like do something.
Yeah, don't just sit there writing down your to-do lists for us to do.
Yeah.
And write them down.
Make a copy.
You keep one and you'd knock off some things in those lists and then maybe we'll be able
to keep up the task. Sam is slower than the other ones. Like even Kat called her out was like,
you know, sometimes I think you move too slow. And that being said, like Adrian, take a note from
Alex, like jump in there and help them out. Not only will you gain their respect, but you will get
the job done faster. Of course, we need one more gross moment with Simon because Adrian's hugging him.
and she's like, were you going to shake my hand?
He goes, no, I was going to grab your tip.
Like, are you fucking kidding me?
And she laughed at that.
She laughed.
And that was when I was like, you, after what happened last night, and you hear that from him,
you can't then be like, oh, I messed up.
I need to apologize to Kat.
Like, yeah, she's still in trouble for drinking on Charter.
However, I need to come at this differently because clearly this was a bigger issue.
No, in one ear, out the other.
Ha, ha, Simon.
And the fucked up part is you would think.
that after putting up with all this nonsense, they'd get tipped out.
Like, we see some tips that are 15K, 20K, like $18,000.
And everyone gets over a grand for like a three-day job.
They tip $10,000, which means everyone gets $900.
They put up with all of that shit for $900.
Not only that, but they thought going in, which is a normal thing to think,
they thought going into it, okay, this is Adrian's friends.
So we're going to make sure that everything's up to snuff.
We're going to make sure that everything's perfect for this group.
because we know that we're going to get tipped out more because they're Adrian's friends.
And this guy's Google rich.
Like, we expect all of this money to come through.
And we worked our asses off for these three days, four days, however long it was.
And all of the things that went wrong, but we tried to keep it afloat and we got everything going.
And yeah, they get $900 each.
And they're just sitting there like, why did we work so hard?
And Adrian, cut to her confessional, is defending it.
Oh, yeah.
This is a normal tip.
This is a normal tip.
I don't know who you guys think you work for, whatever the fuck she says.
said, but, like, again, siding with Simon.
Like, does the guy, is he your sugar daddy?
Is he sending you money on the side?
Like, what might be?
Like, I don't understand at that point.
Like, maybe she's very cognizant of the fact that he's going to see the episode.
Probably, but I did like one thing from the tipping.
Captain Lee asked if anybody wanted to put their money in a safe to protect it from themselves.
Yeah.
And Kat goes, I probably should have done that last time because I have nothing left.
Yeah, that was actually really fun.
but they're all you know they got to do the whole cleanup they got to get the boat chip shape which
I honestly just realized that's what that means yeah get the boat chip shape so anytime
I actually kind of like those scenes too when they're like washing everything and cleaning
everything up and getting it ready like I enjoy that therapeutic about it like to watch yeah I agree
with that but we get to see that Adrian's boyfriend Coop is a real human being they are
Skyping.
The first thing he said when he got on the Skype was,
I beat your dad's ass in golf today.
I'm like that's funny.
Yeah, I like this guy.
And I liked him even more because he starts like talking to Adrian.
He's like, look, because I guess whatever he does, he's somewhat high up, I guess people
under him.
He's like, look, if you want this to go better, you need to be more understanding.
You need to talk to them, mean, to listen to them.
You need to be in a place where you can like, not necessarily take criticism, but just
connect with them more, and you're not doing that.
So he's actually on the side of the crew, and you would think that that would hit home?
No, it goes to Adrian's cutscene, and she's like, you know, he's not even on my side.
Like, I don't know what I'm doing.
Like, she is more upset with him not agreeing with her than listening to now multiple people
have told her, like, you're not doing it right.
No, they must be wrong.
I'm right.
Like, what a narcissist.
And you would think that that would carry over to the next scene where she, and thankfully,
Cat did the right move. She wasn't getting anywhere with Adrian talking to her about, you know,
what happened the night before? Did she drink? Was she doing this? And she just said, you know what?
Adrian, I'm not going to talk to you about it. I don't feel comfortable telling you. I'll just go
talk to the captain myself. Smart move. So Adrian goes, uh, okay, fine. I'll, yeah, all right, fine.
I'll go with you. So she still needs to be in that room. I guess, you know, she's her boss. It's fine.
But this is where Captain Lee kind of redeemed a little bit where he lost in the beginning where he
was chastising Alex. He sits there and listens to.
to Cat go through it, has a logical response and says, you know, I'd like to see your
prescription just to make sure that it's legit and you didn't just buy Xanax or whatever from
some guy before you left. And then we'll reassess it. But that is a really uncomfortable
situation to be in. I'm sorry that happened to you. Shake it off. You know, let's go have some
fun, free time for everybody. We can get the boat all cleaned up and we'll hit the club. We'll hit
the bar, whatever. And I thought that was great by Captain Lee to actually be a people person,
which we haven't seen before.
No, I know.
And this is what I say.
Like, you get those different scenes where he's not on the clock where he does, like,
act like an actual human being, not a robot captain.
Yeah.
But, I mean, you can quite clearly see, like, at least I could.
Like, that was not medicinal.
Like, she was clearly boozing.
And, like, I think she did both, honestly.
She might have, which might have made it worse.
And that's why it was such a quick, like, spiral.
But everything's clear and, like, all good.
And Captain Lee says, all right, like, just be aware of it next time.
Like, don't take it if you know that that might happen, which is fair.
They're all going out.
So everyone's getting ready to go.
You would think the cat would sit this one out.
She does not.
In fact, she goes the exact opposite direction.
And we get a cut to the bar and everyone's kind of, you know, chatting, drinking.
And cat's climbing a fucking pole to the ceiling.
Like, and Captain Lee cut to him.
He's like, oh, I hope she's wearing underwear.
It was funny to see Captain Lee at the bar, too, because it shows, like you said,
he's not just a robot captain, he's actually a person.
So to see him actually going out with the crew and, like, sitting there, maybe he's not
talking to them most likely.
He's probably just sitting there, keep it to himself.
But to see him have that reaction to cat was very funny with her on the stripper pole, kind of
contemplating.
Oh, no, that wasn't a stripper pole.
That was just, like, a beam that was in the bar.
Well, they let her climb on it, so I'm going to think that that's probably a stripper pole.
I mean, maybe people will strip on it, but it's a dancing pole.
What do you want to call it?
it's a big silver pole in the middle of a bar it's a stripper pole okay fine so then with captain lee
and cat doing their own thing on the other side we get to see a little bit more of the dynamic
between sam and cj where sam's meeting these nice guys three guys who knows if they're nice
or not i guess and she's talking to the one guy and gets all of their names cj cuts right in
and goes oh nice to meet you and like says their names back to them you can see they're already
kind of annoyed because a guy just walked the part where he walked by initially and says keep flirting
with these guys Sam. Oh yeah. He did. Yeah. It's just he's just so far removed because in his
confessionally, you see Sam talking about CJ's like a helicopter. He's like cock blocking me. I don't
want anything to do with him. Like leave me alone. Let me have my fun. He doesn't get it. Flash over to
CJ. Yep. I think Sam's like, you know, our relationship's kind of blossoming. It's moving forward.
It's growing and I'm excited to see how it goes. Like, dude. You got a feel.
for them a little bit, honestly.
Like, you're that blind, my guy?
I don't know if he was drunk or, like,
yeah, maybe he is just blind,
but when they get back to the,
back to the boat after Sam strikes out
because she can't hook up with these guys
while CJ's just hawking or every move,
he's draping himself all over her.
She's trying to sleep.
She said, I don't want to sleep in the room with you
and I don't feel comfortable.
And he's like, oh, okay.
So she goes and lays out on the couch
and he comes out and, like, climbs on top of her.
And, like, tucks her in,
like, gives her a kiss on the head.
And she's like, okay,
go away like get out of here and he's like that's you know that's why i like you so creepy
it's so weird and i you know what i'm going to bump him down on the pole too he's down him and sam
belong together at the bottom of the pole i like that yeah i like that and they're actually kind of a duo
regardless of the relationship and you'll see as we get into it but yeah that that makes a lot of
sense but overall thoroughly enjoying below deck i really i like the quick turnaround i like
getting in with a new guest every episode.
Obviously, we had the same guest for two episodes this time,
but it's fun.
I get it.
I really, really understand, obviously, because I got the season three.
I have slowed down.
I'm not really watching it avidly anymore because season three cast is not as fun,
I think, as the first two.
Maybe we skip over that one.
Oh, maybe.
Let's take a poll.
We'll get through this season.
We'll go through the second season, so we get a different boat.
Maybe we get through this season, then we might actually, should we just, oh, maybe we'll do a different show.
That could be fun.
Yeah, that's what we'll do.
We'll get done this season and we'll take a vote and see if you guys want us to continue below deck.
Maybe go to a different below deck.
Maybe a new below deck.
I know there's down.
Yeah, if we need a new captain.
You know, you heard he's hot.
Hey, I watched a couple episodes.
He's a good looking fella.
Yeah, but I agree with you.
Like, below deck is very watchable, super easy.
My fiance and I even pointed out that with the early season,
seasons, there's no commercials. So it just keeps going. It just flows. It just flows right
through. It's a quick 40 minutes. You don't even realize what's going on. You're enjoying it.
So yeah, I'm happy we did this. And it gives the listeners a little bit more. You know, we always want
to do that. Yeah, absolutely. And like my last comment about below deck, it's funny because I feel
like while they're working, like I feel like I'm working. And like when they get to go out at the end,
I also am kind of like, ah, like I feel like I'm relaxed in those moments because I'm like, huh,
works done like let's party that's all we got for below deck um remember to tune in on
friday for our normally scheduled uh main episodes we will continue our browness episodes every
week um like we just figured out organically we will um take a vote at the end of this season
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Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom.
You want to tell him? Or you want me to tell him? No, no, no, I got this.
People out there, people, lean in, get close, get close.
Listen, here's the deal.
We have big news.
We got monumental news.
We got snack-tacular news.
After a brief hiatus, my good friend, Michael Ian Black, and I are coming back.
My good friend, Tom Kavanaugh and I are coming back to do what we do best.
What we were put on this earth to do.
To pick a snack.
To eat a snack.
And to rate a snack.
Typically.
Emotionally?
Spiritually.
Mates is back.
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