Bros & Shows - Bronwyn Breaks Down, Lisa Backs Todd? (Part 1 of 2)(RHOSLC Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 24, 2024

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We love to share our process with you and try not to get distracted by the comments on the side. But as I said, we're here to talk a little Roslick in the season that keeps on giving because holy shit every week i'm like all right it's got to slow down eventually we got to have one slow episode and no it gets better and better i'm running out of pages in my notebook do you have one notebook dedicated just to rossick no no but my if you look at the notes i've taken for each show usually it's like four pages four to five rossick has been

consistently like six to nine pages of notes because so much happens for me each scene. There's so much shit packed into each scene that I got to make sure I get it all. So it's, uh, yeah, I'm, I, it's costing me some, uh, some dblunes over here. Because I keep buying notebooks. Yeah, this is, uh, this is one of those shows. And it's really funny, too, because I've been watching a lot of like old Roney and reunions will pop up. But Ross, like, does it too. When you have subtitles on, my favorite thing in all of these shows is instead of it saying, specifically what people are actually saying, it just says, all. women talking. And then sometimes it'll say talking over each other or something like that.

And I'm like, this is incredible. I love when they do that because they're like, we're not going to spend any time typing this out because you can't hear it. We can't hear it. We don't know what the hell is going on either. Everybody's talking at once. Who cares? I like when they use adjective to describe how they're talking. They talk placidly. It's like, oh, that's interesting word. No, yeah. Placidly. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's like when you ease into it. Yeah. You know, whatever. Yeah. Jesus Christ. But we are getting ready for the holiday season. As we said, we recorded our Southern Charm episode earlier.

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But I do want to bring one thing up before we jump in. And Amy Donnelly in the comments posted it here. And that's Jared made it Insta official. And we need to discuss before we jump into the episode, the fact that it is now InstaFificial, if you want to say. That's actually not bad. That's the first time I've said that. Is that a thing?

That's not bad. It should be a thing. It's the first time that one of your words has actually just kind of flowed perfectly. Thank you. I'll take it. All right. I'll take that. I will ask you this.

Did you see what Jared's daughter said to it? Oh, no. She's a fucking lunatic. This won't last. That's what she said about Brittany? In the comments? Or like on her own page? In the comments?

Oh my God. Yeah. So, I mean, look, I mean, Jared's a fucking lunatic too. That's true. It tracks crazy. So they could last. Honestly. Who knows?

Probably not. I could see them lasting. I could also see it just being toxic and. tumultuous and that's crazy. I didn't know the daughter said that's hysterical. Yeah, I think this is reactionary to the feedback that he's, look. I mean, Brittany's going to do whatever Jared wants. And if he asks her to be his girlfriend, no matter what time it is, she's going to say yes.

And she's going to be excited about it. Just like she is with every woman on the show, whenever they show any sort of niceness to her, she's like, oh, my God, we're best friends. Oh, my God. Like today, like in this episode, she goes and hugs Brahmin after all of that. And I'm like, oh, she's going to think of their best friends again because Brom would allow her to hug her. That's just how Brittany is. That's who Brittany is.

I love it. I think it's incredible to watch because she is absolutely out there. And I never know what she's going to do next. But I think this is reactionary to what's going on for two reasons. One, I'm pretty sure that she has secured her spot on next season already. She has shown up so much. She has to have. I know they don't really make those announcements right now.

But I'm pretty sure she would be back next year. knowing that and also with the fans reaching out saying yeah Jared's a piece of shit this is crazy those two things together equals him actually saying you wouldn't be my girlfriend i think i think that's his idea of saving face probably because i know he's caught a lot of shit for this and he clearly cares about his image he's got a big johnny jay thing going on i just want people to think i'm a nice guy it's like well then stop putting yourself on tv being an asshole and we might think differently of you i'll never understand it i say it all the time.

I don't know why these dudes expose themselves like this on TV. I'll lump Todd into that. And I'm sure Todd didn't have a whole lot of choices. It sounds like Bronwyn probably was like, I'm doing the show, get on board, and he's been fucking up.

So I'm sure she had a little leverage there. But yeah, I feel like he's in a similar book. You see him for who he is. And you're like, wow, he's a piece of shit too. So all these dudes come on these shows.

And I mean, we've seen it across all different franchises. You get guys on these shows. and they're just horrible people, but they don't do themselves any favors. It's almost like the more they talk, the more guilty they become. They out themselves for bullshit behavior and being narcissists and being assholes. So I'm glad Jared came on the show. I agree.

I think that crazy plus crazy plus toxicity somehow equals longevity. I think this is going to work in some fucked up way. I don't think it's going to be a happy relationship. I think the daughter is going to be estranged. it seems like Brittany has a habit of doing that is estranging children, which might be a little blow, but I don't care. I don't care because she clearly brings it on herself because she prioritizes these dudes over her kids and her relationships with people that are close to her.

She alienates everyone so she can be close to an Osmond and live on Osmond Lane. Like that's the vibe I get. She doesn't care when push comes to shove. It's about her and her alone. And I know she's great for TV. She's wacky. She's cookey. she's fun to watch you never know what's next with brittney she would be a nightmare to hang out with

i would lose my mind yeah but it's weird too because a lot of times we'll point out oh yeah you forget that these people are actual real people and we do root for them in real life and we're not going to root for anybody's downfall brittney is in a category of her own where she is such a character of her own that on the show off the show whatever i do not doubt that she is like this all the time oh yeah and it's almost like i don't even have you seen the tictocks and Like, Instagrams of her singing in Vegas for wicked. I don't, I don't even think about what she, like, what her life is going to become. It's almost like she is just a person that's living out there in a weird island that I'd never think about.

I just watch her on TV. I'm entertained by her, but I don't know what her real life is like. And I don't really care because it's almost like she's a fake person that just pops up on my TV every week. It's great. She's like a character in real life. She's like her playing herself in real life. I don't think it's for the camera. I think she just walks out the door and this.

is the character that she portrays on a daily basis. It's like my my mom went to college with this dude that would break out into song as though he was in a musical. And she gives me that vibe. Like anything like in the cafeteria. Oh, when she was in college, if that's like you're asking what she went to school. Like under which circumstances did he say? Like in line at in line at the cafeteria waiting for food.

So he's got his own theme to narrate. No, he would sing to like, I'm saying he treated real. life like a musical like he would just break out into song and like describe the situation that was currently happening much like a musical that's the vibe i get from brittney that's some sort of living in her own musical yeah musicitis yeah that's definitely some sort of disorder a condition for sure i actually like it it's kind of entertaining i might start doing i actually to be fair i actually do that to myself sometimes when i'm walking around i've told you before that i'll sit in my car and I'll, like, think of a joke.

And then if I laugh to myself, then it's a good joke. If I don't, that it's not. I think I've said that before. No? Nope. All right, fine. Otherwise, I. That's what you practice your material.

Otherwise, I also sing what I'm doing. A lot of people do that, I'm sure. But I'm alone. I don't sing it around other people. I was going to say, you're not projecting in public while you're waiting for a sandwich in line. Like, here's my sandwich. I've been waiting for a sandwich for a long time. That's my, that.

In my head. I am. Yeah, that's actually a pretty good song. I'm going to use that. I'll work on that. We can, we can, we can workshop it. We can workshop it. But look, we'll do it. We've talked about Brittany and her shenanigans long enough because we're

to have to talk about them a whole lot more. So let's jump in to this week's episode. And we start out with Bronwyn and Todd, which is foreshadowing once you see the rest of the episode. And when it kicks off and she's still doing this shit with Lisa, like I know you're upset about it we find out later seemingly what the underlying cause of this whole thing with lisa is because at this point i know you're rolling your eyes because it's still played out it's like itingly is a key word there yeah oh you have you might have a different take on this then yeah

interesting oh god we're gonna we're gonna fight we can't feel it already this is we're gonna fight in front of our members i'm sorry guys but no in this moment i'm like all right I know she's hurting your feelings. I know you're wanting more from her. I know she called you snobby and ungrateful. But I guess the biggest question mark for me is if this is new to her, the stuff that she's experiencing with Lisa, none of this is new to us. Like this is all par for the course, which begs the question, what is Lisa like off camera?

I do wonder that all the time. And I've wondered it a lot more this year because Brahman and Lisa have been friends for so long. And the way the Brahman describes their friendship, it is completely different off camera. We said that immediately, well, yeah, I'm sure people put on a different persona or they're a little bit ramped up when they come on camera. And they're sort of pushing there or projecting this character that they play on TV. And there are a lot more of themselves for the most part. That seems to be what happens. And I guess maybe, maybe Lisa's a little bit more toned down.

She's a little bit more chill and she's a lot less vindictive is probably what I would imagine. but on screen in a housewife universe you have to be vindictive if somebody rubs you the wrong way if somebody does something that you don't like you have to be petty you have to do things to get under their skin and lisa does it and then makes it look like she has no idea what she's doing like she just did something and she's like oh my god i never knew that that would have gotten under your skin but deep down she definitely knew she's just using this over and over and over again and she's what five seasons into this so it might be a way that she operates on camera that she just doesn't do off camera. I think that's probably plausible. But this made it a lot more difficult because

obviously we're starting that episode over again with Brahman's being a baby. I called her a baby last week. She was a huge baby last week. And as the as the episode continued, I'm like, ah, it's going to be a lot harder for me to call her a baby because of this. Yeah. I can separate two and we'll get to that. I can separate the two and we'll get to that. But right away, I'm like, enough. Just enough. Just leave it alone. Like it's not working. It's not. It's not. not playing. The only reason why Angie and Whitney are listening to you is because they are at odds with Lisa too. They're fueling your fire and they're making it seem like, oh my God, Robin, you're so right. They don't care. They only care about themselves. That's what a housewife is. They only care

about themselves. They want to put themselves in the best position. And right now, you're all fired up about Lisa. They're going to use that against you to get to Lisa. They don't care about what the collateral damage is. So her feeding into this was bothering me last week. It's still bothering me this week and it's just more of the same right now but this led to what i was hoping for and whether you think it's them just being taking advantage of the situation or not when you get to this next scene where they're doing water aerobics and then whitney takes a shot at heather and angie for being old which came out of lairfield i know isn't that weird i didn't like that yeah you can watch that back and they're like dude what the fuck right that's not that's kind of mean and

you need friends whitney you need friends on this show she called just an old and then immediately went to them. Yeah, Justin's fine. You call your husband old and then you call them old. Weird. Right. You can pick on him, I guess. It's still weird.

Sure. Then you pick on Heather and Angie. But when they get done this workout in the pool and they're talking, they start discussing Bronwyn. And this is what I was hoping would happen in Villa 2 is that you're going to start to get people shifting focus and shifting who they're going to support. I know Heather, Heather's in Villa 1, right? So she's crossing lines.

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And that could be because of everything she's going through or gone through. So she's a little hesitant to. So I'm not going to fault her for that. but in this moment you get these three feeling bad for her and they bring up the dog bite Todd didn't go to the ER we all saw the dog bite that was not like a nip that wasn't a scratch like that dog fucked her up she had a holes in her leg she had a holes in her arm and Todd's like it's just a scratch until Gwen confirms and like FaceTimed him and said hey dick look at this and he's like oh shit better get to the ER another

ding for Todd. It's not surprising. I really don't like this dude at all. I called it. Remember when I made the first post how many people were like, this is just how old school businessmen are? Clearly, you guys have never been around serious businessmen. Okay. Well, if this is all serious businessmen, I don't want to be around him because he sounds like a dick. He just doesn't care about her, but they're starting to get a picture of what life is like for Bronwyn outside of the group. I think they're starting to sympathize and empathize an empath. thighs a little bit because they have to. I mean, just hearing that story, you're going to be like, oh, shit, like what's going on at home that her husband didn't go to the hospital for severe dog bites? Yeah, no, that's a good point. And the whole idea that she, I guess, reached out to the secretary and the secretary's like, oh, he's in a meeting. We had to call him out of his meeting. Like, enough. Like, it's insane. And the whole old businessman, the serious businessman thing is such bullshit. Thank you. If your wife goes to the ER for whatever she's going to the ER for, you go out of the meeting. Whether you think it's

like some sort of minimal scratch or whatever you thought it was, you get out because she's going to the goddamn ER. He's a douchebag. He's an asshole. We all know that. But I do want to pose a question to you and it's slightly jumping to go on a little bit, but I do want to ask this. What's the big difference

between Bronwyn and Brittany? They both are complaining about the same thing that it's really hard for these women to actually open up and get close to them and they don't know what's going on in their lives and it doesn't seem like they actually care. There's not a whole lot of difference there there's a huge difference it's how i meant like so just i'm just talking about like specifically fundamentally what their issue is it seems like both of them are like it's really hard to get

these women to just understand what i'm going through understand what's in my life they're both doing that that's fair it's kind of funny to me yeah but when you look at the way they're going about it oh well yeah well i want to wait i don't know to talk about the announcement yet because i just want to drop that and discuss it all at once dude it's just it's too much with her but yeah it's the way they're going about it, but yeah, I guess that's also a testament to the group because you're seeing two very different approaches. It is a tough group to crack.

And that's also, you can see that with Heather early on where she's like, this group, like, you know, she's so, now she's so protective of it ever since the Monica Garcia of it all, which is ridiculous. Like, you don't have to safeguard the group. It's housewives that people are going to come and go. You have to let them into the fucking group.

But that's neither here nor there. It's Yacht Day. And ever gets a Vita bag. like that problem when still taking shots at Lisa although they're not as funny right now because she's a little too sensitive so it's just like it's too much just bag like yeah it's canvas bag I'm like yeah it's just constant like at least like we know you have an issue with Lisa if you keep harping on it it does get annoying you're not like hammering something home that we can't understand it's just getting annoying it's too much and I look again I'm going to

separate everything later this right now is annoying every time that you talks about Lisa every time that she goes to a confessional she's talking about Lisa enough just enough just move on try to have some fun down there otherwise you're just miserable but she clearly can i mean i think that that's again alluding to everything she's going through i think there's a lot more at play here i do believe when she breaks down later i believe a lot of that so we'll we'll save it for then but let's get to the sprinter van meredith is dozing off in the back i don't know what is with meredith and trips yeah because every time she go wasn't a trip she gets exhausted and she says that i'm exhausted didn't sleep well she had to get an

ivy when they went to wherever the bahamas or bermuda last year from monica's trip they had to get an iv for there she couldn't stand up fast forward to this trip and then brittney says that she heard her last and she's not surprised because i heard her last night crying and throwing up that one i'm still confused on i don't know what happened with the vomiting but the crying we get all of it's confused. Yeah, that's at the end. That's at the end, too. I'm going to save it.

This is my point, dude. There's so much shit. We're in the first fucking scene pretty much, and we still have so much to talk about. But I just, I don't love how Brittany goes about it, do, but I don't. Because she's like, there's just something off. It's like, all right, inspector gadget. We know what she means to. It's one of those situations we're like, we're not going to speculate on what the hell's going on there.

She could just have serious issues with jet lag, with flying with whatever the hell's going on and then maybe she's just kind of cutting loose a little bit more if you will when she gets down to a vacation and she's maybe she's drinking more not drinking water maybe she is drinking the water and the water is messing with her stuff i don't know what the hell's going on water yeah it's the water in mexico the problem always i i have no idea i really don't know and look we're not going to speculate because we don't know but it does seem like every single time we go on a trip with meredith she is completely checked out it's It's almost like she's just like a shell of herself.

As soon as she gets off that plane, she just completely turns into a different person and we're like, what happens? What's going on here? She starts last year she was like slurring her words at dinner and like, yeah, we know she was drunk there. But like every time they go somewhere, there's something different and she's a different person. It's very weird.

It's very strange. It's very strange. And I mean, you could put on your psychology hat and say that maybe when she's getting away from Seth, she's doing stuff, you know? I'm not going to say what. I'm just saying like maybe it's like, oh, I got a breath of fresh air. I'm going to cut loose a little bit, whatever that means. It just seems to be a recurring theme.

We have a trip. Meredith shows up and she's just off. Something's a little off. But we get to Yacht Day. Angie goes over and helps Meredith because she can't walk in her heels. I don't think that's a move. I genuinely think Angie's just nice. And maybe that's me having rose-colored glasses on.

I know that Angie can hit below the belt. I know we're seeing a little bit of a different side to her. I do believe at her core, she's nice. I think she's addictive. And I think she's genuinely saw her. I was like, let me just, let me, I know we're at odds. Let me just help you out here. I would say the same thing too.

I think that she just innately went over to help somebody who needed help. I don't think it matters who it was because even at the end of this, when Meredith starts to get like a little bit from somebody else, Angie's sitting over there smirking. So like there's still some issues there. But the fact that she went over to go help her is just because Angie is a nice person i feel the same way yeah she's just nice now who won i don't know what that was if it was a dance off or a vogue competition or a runway competition i need to know both you and the comments who won that i'll tell you who lost we did the viewers well yes we actually did lose too no no i think

Bronwyn lost. Bromwin's sitting there judging them for dancing and she's like, look, I have no rhythm. But going to your confessional and just making fun of all of them dancing, you're just comfortable in their own skin and having a good time. How about you get up and start dancing around? Maybe people would be friends with you. That's nice. This is a nice way to look at it. Yeah. Hey, look, that's me. I'm a nice guy. No, you're not. That's why I'm surprised that that was your take on it. Usually you'd be like, they all sucked. No one has rhythm. I fucking hated it. I mean, none of them had rhythm. Yeah. Heather did pretty well. I'll give it to Heather. Heather actually had some movement that looked like she may have gotten down and started break dancing,

and I was excited for a second. So I'm going to say, Heather. Brittany moved exactly how I expected Britney to move. Yeah, I'm surprised she started doing that. I am too. That might have actually done her some favors. She doesn't have a terrible voice. Yeah.

But as far as the dance moves go, it was like a constipated robot. I've seen better. I've seen what? What's a constipated robot? Well, it's like you're doing the robot. Oh, okay. So you're constipated doing the robot move, not a literal constipated robot. Well, you are impersonating.

No, you're impersonating a constipated robot. You are not constipated. You are impersonating a constipated robot. You've installed a program in the robot to make it think it's constipated. Oh, okay. Now we got it. Okay. AI.

That's what I needed. Yeah. See. nuclear fission nuclear fission constipated robots terminator end of the world constipation brof bros released yeah yeah shit uh back to the yacht day we're talking about summer plans and it is the year of henry that makes me happy and the summer of henry i'm glad that you know for all of our shortcomings again we do think that lisa is a good mom and to see them prioritizing Henry especially with uh I'm forgetting his name now who's who's off galloping

around jack is down in his mission so they're trying to when Henry said sometimes it's easier being alone that was the saddest shit I've ever seen he's a kid he's on to something being alone rocks yeah when you're older yeah you get you yeah I can you're not supposed like but we've seen him talk before he's very mature for his age he knows what's going on he does he he is very mature for his age I took it as he's like a new age like Gen Z kid that's he's playing video games until 4 a.m.

apparently he's got friends online that he plays video games that he's he's got friends online that he plays video games that that's the that's the generation they don't they don't knock for each other anymore bro my god can you like age yourself a little bit more Jesus Christ

that's this generation these damn kids and they're on their goddamn computer their nintendo's like what are you talking about no he's got he's got AI friends he's he's he has friends now he's doing better that's the whole thing like he's actually asking to hang out with people and going to houses i'm saying it was sad to hear a what 12 or 13 year old he's entering middle school he's like it's just easier to be alone sometimes 13 year olds aren't supposed to say that shooter magooter can say that great fuck off nobody wants to be around you anyway this poor kid he's he's going to be uh wakeem phoenix and

her just going to have have a girlfriend that's scarlet johansson's voice i mean you could do worse i suppose but yeah yeah see mary joe just said most of my daughter's friends are online they even watch tv together in d r isn't that nice that's great i'm not saying i'm not saying i'm not taking away from the experience i'm saying you know hanging out with your friends face to face is still important uh-huh fuck off steel steel hates genzy steel hates genzy i don't need anybody I hate you. That's about it. But I don't hate people normally.

There's like three on my list. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't hate. I don't hate. Dislike. Distlike and disdain. Yeah, I have disdain for many people. I don't hate people because I also am the person that does not believe that people are inherently bad.

You are not that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I don't think that people are apparently bad. That's what I think. That's not inherently bad. inherently bad means you're born that way you need a lesson inherently selfish what do you think that's what i said that's what i said they were you said inherently bad you said that if

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this Henry conversation, which is a nice conversation, right? So this is what we needed from Ryan Stoneman. Gen Z or lazy, don't get me started on calling younger generations lazy. It is hard as shit out here. Okay. That's funny, though. That's a very funny comment. Okay, all right.

But we need to move on. Yeah, we do. We do. While they're talking about Henry, which is a nice scene, Brittany chimes in and goes, when I told you guys last night about Olivia, all I got was crickets. I didn't get anything. When I make announcements,

you guys don't ever seem supportive. You don't seem to care. And I'm upset. And Brahmin chimes in and it's like, well, the difference is we know Henry, which, no,

I don't think that's the, I mean, yeah, sure, but you could also, the difference is, Brittany, no one really knows you.

You haven't made emotional connections with these people. The first time you gave an announcement, you didn't know half the table, and then you started talking about Jared Osmond and the fact that you were moving on from him finally. I'm officially broken up with him. And then we've had to listen to you do another ding, ding, ding announcement because you guys are officially dating. Who the fuck knows? When you do this and make these awkward announcements out of left field when the situation doesn't call for a sentimental moment, people aren't going to take it seriously.

They're going to say, what the fuck was that? That was random as hell. And they also, they don't know you on that level. When they sit here and listen to Lisa, most of them have known Lisa for a long time. Most of them know Henry, as they pointed out. So when she talks about this, they also know Jack who's gone. So they're also like, oh, Henry must be sad. Here's what's going on with Henry, everybody.

Aw, glad to hear he's doing better. Not, this is so fun. First drink stop. Beat a tequila, baby. Ding, ding, ding. I talked to my daughter for the first time after estranging her for 10 years, everybody. She slept over. I think it was six months, but yeah.

like it's just of course no one reacts what are you doing here's here's brittany in a nutshell we learned early on that she had not talked to her daughters in a very long time we never got answers for that there was no further discussion about that mary pointed things out we don't know anything about you you have no relationship with your daughters why britton doesn't go deeper than that she doesn't tell anybody what's going on she doesn't tell anybody about what things happened in her life instead the first actual announcement that she makes is Well, yeah, I'm back with Jared Osman. You're back with a toxic asshole, but we don't get an update on your daughters.

If you had then stopped back in and said, I know I didn't go any deeper, but I just started hanging off my daughters again and I'm repairing a relationship. Good for you, Brittany. That's incredible. But you keep going back to this whole Jared Osman thing and nobody gives a shit because he's a toxic piece of shit. That's where we are. So all of your announcements are about him and then you make an announcement about your daughters. We never got any answers to begin with. So it shows where your priorities are.

that's where Britney is. That's me treating Brittany like a real person. I still don't think she's real. I think she's fake. I think she's made up. But, you know, for my end of her day. She's AI for the show. Bravo got an AI robot and typed in be a housewife. And this is what you get. But I think Bronwyn says, I mean, it's mean as shit, but I think she nails it honestly. She's like, are you happy to make an announcement or are you happy to be back in touch with your daughter? And honestly that's my question too because it does seem like when you have these moments of moving forward with jared or your daughters or whatever you have this milestone quote unquote i'll use that term loosely because we don't know what's going to happen next week but you have these big

moments in your life and it seems like you're more excited to tell people and get praise or pat on the back or sympathy or empathy or whatever the fuck you're more excited to tell people than you are about the actual situation if you're excited about the situation then when you were one-on-one with some of the ladies you would have sat down to be like, oh, my God, the greatest thing happened the other day. Like, Olivia came over and she slept up. You wouldn't sit down at the table after having conversations about everything else. And then out of left field go ding, ding, ding, ding. I talked to my daughter.

She slept over. It's like, why is this coming up now in front of the camera in front of everybody? Why not take the time to talk and get closer to some of the time. She doesn't have any one on one scene. She had one with ever. Because she doesn't try. Yeah. No, I know.

I'm with you. Yeah. No, she just, she doesn't try to have the one-on-one scene. She doesn't try to sit down with anybody and talk about anything. All she does is everything is in a group setting. Now, I get it like, yeah, the only times that we usually see you are in group settings, but that's probably because you're not making an effort. How many times do we've seen friends of show up with somebody else and they're sitting down

because something happens? It seems like nobody gives a shit about Brittany because it seems like she doesn't want to share anything that's going on in her life except for Jared Osman. So why would they? That's a good point. And that's what Brooke Quatton and he said. brittany has no game no chill and no ability to segue into conversation she just makes random announcements for attention i think that's perfectly put i think that's exactly what

problem said that's what she finds these moments to get more attention ourselves and tries to grab the spotlight and it never lands because she has no tact it's just so random that everyone's like what yeah we didn't even know that you had a daughter named olivia until now we just knew you didn't like talk to your kids so i don't know she calls Bromwin a fucking bitch, which escalated really quickly and just says, I get no support. And Bronwyn looks to Lisa. And I

was like, dude, and ah, come on. And Lisa, who I don't agree with very often anymore, was like, I don't know why if you're mad at somebody or if you're fighting with somebody, I have to fight with them too. Like, you're a big girl. You can handle your own shit. I understand wanting support from your friends. I understand

wanting to feel backed up. In this moment, handle your business. Tell Britain to shut the fuck up deal with it move on like i don't think you need lisa support here i don't think that this is a testament to what kind of friend lisa barlow is i think this is other people staying out of this because it's an easy shutdown don't call me a fucking bitch you don't need other people to jump in and say that you can say that you've you've shown multiple times that you can handle yourself so handle your business go tell britain to jump off the yacht like do something about it at the same time

and as much as i agree with what brahm would have said to brittany you can't say that you can't just say that in the middle of this like without any backlash obviously it is insane that she's having this announcement right now nobody really cares and of course yeah they're going to look at her and say well we don't know anything about what's going on in your life so why would we respond to that we don't know how to respond to the things that you say you always make these announcements we don't know what to do bramwin saying that while true is bitchy so handle your shit you're going to get backlash brittney is welcome to come back at you and then handle it you can't look to Lisa or somebody else every single time that you get into trouble, it's annoying.

It's too much. And it's like, again, she's just trying to further the point that for whatever reason she feels like Lisa's alienating her and she's upset and she's crying about it and being a huge baby. That's all she's doing. And I agree with Lisa. You can't do this. Handle your shit. No, I think she should have handled business right here.

I do think this conversation that comes out of it explains a lot as to why she is overly sensitive to certain things because she starts saying like she kind of snaps and she's like nobody asks me questions about me nobody wants to get to know me on a deeper level nobody wants to ask and it takes like a hard right turn and she's like nobody asks me about todd or what it's like being married to somebody older or that wealthy or the infidelity and it's like skirt what like whoa this this came out of nowhere what do you mean Todd cheated on you why are you okay like that's when she finally gets some people's attention. Brittany, take notes.

If you want to drop a bomb, this is how you do it to get attention from people. I think if Brittany had said my ex-husband cheated on me, I don't think anybody would bat an eye. No, God. Let's be honest here. If she made an announcement and said this or in the middle of some sort of issue that she had, everybody would be like, all right, Brittany, we're done. Yeah, probably.

You're right. But they ask more, all right, what happened? How did you find out? The way she found out sucks, because I guess Todd was texting another woman and Gwen, her daughter, over the shoulder, saw it and then told her she confronted Todd about it. His really, like, I can't stand him. I can't stand him. I think it fucking sucks that she feels the need to defend him even in this moment. And it's a glimpse behind the curtain of what their marriage is.

He's rich and wealthy and gives her this life. So she has to accept certain things and bend the need to him to stay in his good graces to continue to live the lifestyle that she wants to live, which is made very apparent when she's like, you know, it's his fatal flaw. He's admitted it. It's the same way with business. He's never satisfied. I'm like, oh, my God, do you hear what you just said about yourself? You're not good enough. Which, by the way, that's just simply not true.

You're very intelligent, intriguing, beautiful. You offer a lot to the world. you're more than enough, but Todd has made you feel like you're not enough. And in this moment, you're still defending him saying that's his fatal flaw. He's never, he's never satisfied. That's one of the saddest things I think I've ever heard about a marriage. He cheated because he's never satisfied and I know that about him, so it's okay. What?

Yeah, no, it's absolutely insane. And the fact that she starts making excuses right away, like you said, it gives you a glimpse behind the curtain as to what their relationship is and how she values herself in the relationship, which is really sad. It's brutal. The entire thing is brutal. And since day one, we liked Todd originally just because we thought he was quirky. He's not quirky.

He had cats sweaters on. No, he's just a piece of shit. He's just a piece of shit. That's all it is. And Brahm, when making excuses right away, is showing what her trauma is, is showing how she sees herself in the relationship. And that really fucking sucks that she had to break down like this. I will say, you can't lean on this and say, nobody ever asked me any questions.

She came in hot. We gave her praise for it. But she came in hot. She immediately went after people that were saying things. She went after Brittany as soon as she started talking. She went after a bunch of people just for talking and saying things. And she was asking questions and stirring up shit. We thought she was playing the game really well, but you can't have it both ways, unfortunately.

That's the only thing. I'm not doubting the validity of this. I think it's true. The way that she broke down, I thought was very real, of course. Like, I wouldn't say that any other way. But you can't expect people to then sit down with you, like a Heather, who you had beef with for fucking no reason, really. and you were expecting them to sit down with you and say, so what's going on behind the curtain?

How's your life? What's your relationship like with Todd? You got so up in arms when people started talking about how you married him and he's an older guy and he's just a sugar daddy and you know, you don't have a pre-in-up. There's so many things going on there. There were opportunities for you to share with the group. You can't be mad at the group for not asking you more questions the way that she's been acting.

I mean, Brittany, same thing. It's the exact same thing for Brittany. Everything she says is off the fucking cuff. you want people to then sit down with you and say so what's really going on nobody's going to do that nobody on any franchise is going to do that nobody in real life is going to do that if you're going to act that way so that's the problem and then turning it again turning it to lisa is insane it's just she's got this like fixation on lisa and her relationship and her friendship right now that she can't let go of and i think my issue with this right now again not questioning the validity

of it she got backed into a corner because now she's finally hit her breaking point with Lisa. She feels like she's not getting through. Lisa's not responding the way that she would hope. She's not defending her against Britney of all people who, by the way, Bronwyn of three or four weeks ago should be able to just swat Britney out of the way. Brittany shouldn't be a threat to you, shouldn't be an issue. Why are you looking for help for Brittany? You can handle that in a heartbeat. So now that didn't work out. And then you look to Lisa for help. She's not going to give you help. And then you bring this up. That's my problem. The timing of it is suspicious. The timing of it all is, oh my God, this isn't working for me.

I'm going to divulge this information to just stop the show and then everybody's going to come to me and give me a hug. It's not like we haven't seen that move before and I don't hate it. Like, just the fact that she divulges it and it allows people to see past certain things

and like finally open up, whether it was manufactured or not, I think is an important step for her to one have longevity on this show and two, to get some friends on this show because now people can resonate. Now people can listen to that and be like, oh shit, you get somebody like Heather

that's like, I totally get where you're coming from. I know exactly what this feels like because this was my marriage. So it's an important step. Whether it's manufactured or not, we can sit here and debate that back and forth. But I do think it was an important move by her. I think the most interesting thing is the initial response from Lisa is like,

that's hard to believe. I'm like, that's a weird thing to say. That's a really weird thing to say. But I brushed it off. I'm like, all right, maybe she's just taken aback because she's known Bronwyn for so long. And she thinks that she should have heard it by now. maybe that's not as bad as I think it is, right? But they ask her, like, you know, what, what did he do?

How did you guys resolve it? She's like, well, he bought me a diamond ring with five diamonds and five new promises as to what he's going to do to preserve our relationship and make it up to me, which is a big crock of shit. He bought you a shut up ring so that you don't make a big deal out of it because this is his fatal flaw. I'm a high power businessman. I'm never satisfied. That's for everything in my life.

You get it, Broadway. Here's a ring. There's a $4 million necklace, which I still am calling bullshit on from when they were in Palm Springs or whatever. There's no way. There's just no way. But that's a different podcast for a different day. But she continues to open up. And she's like, you know, I feel like if I'm not overly affectionate, overly supportive, overly physical, whatever the fuck she needs to do to keep him happy, that he's going to do it again.

So again, this shows you this relationship. he cheated on her and she is still doing everything in her power to keep him happy so he doesn't cheat again not so they can be happy or you can see the error in his ways she's trying to keep him faithful that should not be a job you shouldn't have to work to keep your spouse faithful that's fucking nuts and she's so accepting of it that say what you want there's people in the comments saying she's playing it up which is you know have your opinion that's fine but this is pretty cut and dry to me where it shows you what this marriage is it is 100% what we perceived it early on where it's the rich guy rich older man younger wife but it sounds

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