Bros & Shows - Bronwyn CLEARS Lisa Barlow (RHOSLC Full Recap)

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

What's up Bros?! Man oh man are we excited that RHOSLC is back. In this episode, we get the aftermath of the Provo camping trip. Heather immediately throws everyone under the bus and tells Lisa that she was the only one that stuck up for her. Mary and Robert Jr. share more about Robert's recovery journey, those scenes always hit so hard and we commend them for their vulnerability. Bronwyn and Heather sit down to "clear the air" about some parenting comments made on the trip. Although it still feels like Heather just simply doesn't like Bronwyn. At "Amy's" party, Utah Socialite, things escalate when LB decides to try and get to the bottom of her being discussed. She attempts to check Bronwyn but we watched her clumsily struggle through this as Bronwyn checks her over and over (and over and over) again. Top marks for BW but can she sustain it? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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But we are a dying breed, and that's creating a whole new world of danger for the few of us left. From the creators of Parkdale Haunt comes Woodbine. Season 2 is out September 24th, distributed by Realm. We're only two episodes in, but Bronwyn, I don't know if she just starts seasons hot. I'm not sure what she does, but climbing the ranks. Big points this episode. Not going to trust it.

I learned my lesson last year. I'm not trusting this one. She's not going to get me. I'm going to get me. Bros and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Brose and shows.

I got to have me. My pros and shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I am your co-host, Steelewry. And as always by the one and only, Snowflake McGee. What's up, dude? That makes me sound like I'm easily offended.

And I am offended by. that. Not a whole lot. LB is back. Lisa Barlow finally comes into the fold after missing an action for episode one. I would say she was sorely missed, but that was a great episode one, so I'm not even going to say that. It's

just such a great show, and I'm happy she's back. Seems like after our discussion last week about episode one, all of the things that we wanted to see pretty much came to fruition. We want to continue the conversation, not because,

come shellfish and cor into a little ball somewhere over there and just hide away when Lisa Barlow comes into the room and not talk about the things that we talked about behind her back talk about it with her go over to her approach her all of those things happen so I'm happy I'm a happy little clam yeah it was a great episode top to bottom they checked all the boxes I needed them to check before we dive in going back to uh Snowflake McGee or whatever I called you this episode I do have to make it back no no no take it back Of course not. I'm not taking it back because the fact that you were offended by it is ironic and funny.

But we got a review and someone said, and the nicknames for a shooter are so cringe. I have to fast forward. It's like, we've been doing this for a long time. And I've been making up nicknames for 20 years now, I think. So if you think cringe, cringe isn't even the right word for whoever wrote that if you're listening now

because you fast forwarded through the nickname, you missed a good one. Cringe is not the right word. They are just stupid. They're just stupid as hell. They're supposed to be done. How dare you? They're supposed to be done.

You know it. Don't you dare, Snowflake. Hey, but every once in a while, every once in a while, I strike gold. And those are the days that I live for. They're missing out on, you know, once a month when I have a better nickname after something that you said, and then you get mad at me because I had the better nickname and then you say, this is my thing. But we all know that's just code for fuck. That's so much better than what I just said.

I wish I thought of that. You missed out on all of that. So that's such a strange. You know what? Keep fast forwarding for it because you're still listening. And if that's what you need to just continue to listen to us, then, you know, whatever. Do you have to do it. And I will say we got another one star because somebody that loves OC decided that our, our recaps of OC is not to their liking.

So if you could do us a favor, guys, help us out and give us a little five-star review. You know, go to Apple, just kick that five-star button. If you want to leave a little review, we love that. If you just want to get five stars, that's fine, too. That's bullshit. We have been very nice to OC for the last two weeks. That's what I thought.

That's crazy. Maybe this is like a retroactive one-star because we did hate watch it for, God, we're only 12 weeks into the season. We hate watched it for about eight weeks. But, like, come on. Really? Throw us a bone here.

Help us out, guys. Anyway, keep listening. I actually, if you're still listening and maybe you like our recaps of Salt Lake and you are the person who left that review, go back and listen to our last two episodes. We're very nice about it. We're very optimistic. What's best? Well, that's the thing that I feel like always just kind of falls through the cracks is when

we're hate watching something, we're not enjoying the hate watch. We want it to be good. Correct. We're actually pissed that you guys continue to make us watch it. Now, where we are, with OC currently that we did kind of get through the woods so to speak uh i'm still very hesitant but we've been nice come on that's what that's mean that's mean snowflake mcgee anyway let's get back to ross lick and it's the morning after the camping trip they're still out

in provo canyon we don't really get a lot of what the blair witch stuff was it's just like funny clips in the beginning of them wandering about at night But there's no real answers as to like, ooh, what happened? It wasn't spooky. I didn't see anything. It was kind of a weird thing to tease last week and then really no payoff for it. Yeah, I agree. I was kind of bummed out about that because the end of that episode looked like we were going to have story time with Meredith.

What the hell happened out there, Meredith? Did you get lost? Did you fall? Are you okay? No. We're not going to talk about anything. Conspiracy theory. And it's not really a conspiracy.

This isn't like tin hat, tinfoil hat worthy. at all. Skinwalker. Maybe there was a skimalker out there. It was Monica Garcia. I don't think they stayed in that trailer. I just don't believe it. I'm sorry.

Maybe one of them. Maybe Angie did. Maybe whoever slept in Angie's bed, who I'm kind of forgetting who was next to Angie when she woke up. The way that Meredith and Heather kind of popped off of those recliners in the middle, and they're like, oh, good morning. How are you? You cannot tell me that they slept there.

They went to a hotel, and I'm okay with it. I did want to see, like, actual footage overnight. Now, obviously, I expected us to get the Blair Witch stuff. We did not really get that. But I also wanted night cameras in the RV at, like, 3 a.m. with somebody getting up to go to the bathroom and pissing everybody off. And we didn't get any of that. So now, I don't know.

Yeah, the tinfoil hats on. Yep. Yeah. But let's get to breakfast and the brushing of the teeth and all of that stuff. This was just kind of a funny scene for the most part up until we get the daughter. her talk because, you know, we're brushing our teeth. Heather can't spit because she got Botox in her lips. Bronwyn's murdering steak, Mary's very unhappy about it. She eats a steak in a bowl with a plastic knife and blames the steak for not being able to cut, which I thought

was really funny. It's like, you're holding it one-handed with a plastic knife, but the steak is the problem? Also, they had a grill the whole time. I know. What the hell? What the hell? We said that last week. We watched as they rolled into this campgrounds. There were grills everywhere. Here they have like an electric griddle. Use that to cook your veggie burger, Mary. Why is that not wrong?

Did, uh, what's his name? Teague, Teague, I don't know, Teague, I think his name was. Yeah, Teague. Where did Teague? See, that's where I get the conspiracy theories. Like Teague went to the hotel and he definitely took some people. He gets a thousand percent slept there. I don't know about that.

You think he's in the RV with the lady? I don't think so. I think he, no, I think only he. slept in the RV. Oh, I see. They all went to the hotel and tea. Oh, they took Teague's car. Okay. All right. Because the other thing is, now we're just, you know, getting sidetracked all over the place. But when we saw pictures of Angie Kay's RV, that's not the same RV. So she read it this RV and Teague drives the RV. So I imagine he slept there and probably dropped the ladies off, came back. They took a couple of

pictures, maybe a little bit of film showing that the RV was there overnight. They're the next morning. I'm not believing any of it. Not getting stuck on it. I tend to get stuck on these things, but I'm not going to do it, but you can't tell me with a straight face that those women stayed in that RV. They went to a hotel. Yep, I believe so, too. Let's get to the conversation. And Heather is excited that Annabelle is leaving the nest. I think that she does a good job explaining the whole thing. It's like, okay, I can understand that because you had to step in the role of mom and dad. Dad was a dead bee, just showed up like the fun dad days. No overnights, no like real custody of the children. So ever since she got extra.

communicated from the church got divorced she's been solo trying to raise the daughters so now she's she's ready to kind of enter her next chapter it's like closing the door to that part of her life so i can i can respect where she's coming from i don't think she's saying like i'm so ready to not be a mom and bronwyn jumps in i do believe trying to resonate with her or like at the very least understand where she's coming from clumsy at best i took offense to it as well. I was like, you're more or less saying she's a bad mom because she's excited and you're a good mom because you moved your daughter's boyfriend in, which all that tells me is you're lonely because Todd's gone all the time. Yeah. Now, that's a really good point,

but I do think that this was two people meeting with very clumsy attempts at whatever they were trying to say. We all know what Heather was trying to say. And I think it's, it's a sweet sentiment for her personal life that she gets to move on every time that she, you know, has to be a mom or, you know, make breakfast, all the mundane things that she might be looking at. It reminds her of her husband. It reminds her of her failed marriage. So I understand where she's coming from. She did a terrible job explaining that.

Bronwyn comes in from left field with a terrible job trying to resonate with that. Yeah. By saying, and I know what Bronwyn was trying to say, too, basically in a nutshell, it's hard being a mom. It's hard letting go. It's hard moving on to different things. Heather's saying she's excited for this next chapter, but also there are underlying issues. is Bronwyn saying, I don't want the next chapter to start because I'm lonely.

So I had my daughter's boyfriend move in, which is weird as hell. But, you know, both neither is right necessarily from, you know, five thousand people here, looking down. Neither is wrong. It's your own human experience. Do what you got to do. But Heather taking offense to it immediately is so funny. It's just, if anybody else shined in with exactly the clunky response that Bronwyn had, I think Heather would try to understand a little bit.

Like, uh, okay, yeah. No, you're just saying it's hard being a mom and figuring things out. I got you. But because it's Bronwyn, it's, whoa, you said I'm a bad mom? Nobody said I'm a bad mom. Every single time. It's just she's irritated by Bronwyn's existence. Bronwyn speaks and Heather gets irritated.

I mean, she alludes to it later on. Like, I don't want to be irritated by Bronwyn all the time. Yeah. You don't have to be. For all intents and purposes, from what we've seen, For two years now, I guess a year in an episode or two. Year and change. Year in change, thank you.

Bronwyn has tried to bridge the gap with Heather. Heather doesn't want to, and you see why later. Like that makes the most sense because, I mean, she played it dirty. That was some dirty-ass pool that she plays later with Lisa Barlow. But we get a Robert Jr. update before we get there. And, you know, Mary, of course, you know, I got emotional this episode watching this whole thing. She's talking about Robert Jr. He's got his ups and downs, highs and lows. He's trying to navigate life after rehab, life and sobriety. I'm very curious about what this journey is going

to look like this year. I thought they did such a great job last year following along in such a respectful way. Robert was in on it. You know, he wanted to share his story, which I will always commend him for. So obviously, if you're keeping up with the news, somewhat recently, he was arrested for, I believe, breaking and entering or trespassing or something like that. I don't want to say if he didn't do something, but something not great. So obviously it's going to be a storyline this season. Hopefully they're able to do it in a respectful way again. And I actually, between this scene and the scene that we'll talk about later, I'm still,

I'm just so impressed with how Mary handles it. And some people might think that the way that she's talking about here is kind of cold. But those in sobriety, like it really is up to the person that is sober to stay sober. And so Robert Sr. you're saying look you got the tools you got to go live your life like that unfortunately kind of is how of course you have a support system but if you can't do it on your own you're not going to survive on your own so it's like this weird middle ground if you want to help you want to be you know the helicopter parent but that actually is detrimental to the kids so right yeah it was

it was in i just i really respect the way that she handles robert junior and his addiction i've i mean i've respected it since day one because again we knew immediately robert signed off on this talking about it on camera, which is, you know, a big pet peeve of ours, whenever people are talking about their children, whatever they're going through. If it's a younger child, they're not signing off on this. They don't know what's going on. They have to watch this later. Robert's an adult.

He's signed off on it. I think what we saw in season, we'll call it season one of what Mary's going through last season. She was very emotional. I mean, this was news to her. This was breaking news to her. She was not really sure how to handle it. And I think what we've now known and what we can see in this scene is,

she's been doing the work in the off season. She's been doing the work every day with Robert to try to get to a different point of, I can support you from this standpoint. I can support you this way. What do you need here? And what can I do differently? And then she's probably talking to other people I know. And I'm sure Mary's probably not going to share with us, or maybe she will.

It's her prerogative. But I'm sure she's talking to people outside, maybe a therapist, maybe some sort of counselor of some kind to try to understand and how to get a grip on it and try to be the person that she needs to be for Robert's sake. And I think that's what we're seeing in this scene. I think we've seen it's a change in disposition. Last year she was incredibly emotional about it. This year, it seems like she's coming to grips with it.

And she also has a better handle in the situation and who she needs to be. So I think that's important as we see the evolution of this whole thing. Yeah, that's really well said. But let's get back to civilization. And we just get a quick one-off before we get to Heather and L.B. Is Amy going to be a friend of this socialite in Utah? Or is that one-off at the party? I don't know.

care for the yeah i think it was just to set up the party but i didn't care for their overuse of socialite it was it was charming at first and then they talked about it a little bit but then everybody's reaction and everybody who had a name tag at that party later you tell socialite you tell socialite you tell it's like shut up i don't really care it loses all meaning i if i had to guess i would say no i think it was really just to set up the party later so that we had some sort of context Not that we really need the context in this situation. Nope, just big house, big party. Great.

Yeah, it's similar to going to a homeless, not toothless event. Sure. Here's the event coordinator and they get a name tag and then, you know, they're not going to be part of the show. And here's the fight. And here's the fight. Yep. Happens every time.

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thus proving year after year, she does not change. This is the Jen Shaw effect. Lisa Barlow's the new HBIC. Now she's cozying up to her. When she goes through her list, immediately brings up the fact that Bronwyn brought up the lawsuits. And when Lisa's like, well, who stuck up for me? Heather's like, well, I did, of course.

What about Meredith? she was quite Meredith did she said let's wait for Lisa to get here let's not forget Brittany the wild guard was the first one

to jump to Lisa's defense and yep defended her vehemently the entire time she was actually trying to start shit on Lisa's behalf Lisa or sorry Heather literally throws

the entire group under the bus that she can look like friend number one so she can be cozied up to LB who she thinks is in charge of this group

this is the same shit we saw with Jen Shaw it's the exact same shit that we saw with Jen Shaw and it's so different when Heather does it especially when it's going to somebody like LB or Jen we see this time and time again you're on a TV show you know these scenes are going to come out when people are talking behind someone else's back

you want to get ahead of it fine I understand that this is not that situation and it almost never never really is with Heather she's just getting ahead of it so that she can get in good graces that's all it is I would expect this move from her sister Brittany her sister from another Mr. Brittany, I should say. They're such good friends.

They're just like sisters. Brittany should be the one doing this. And then I would laugh about it and be like, of course Britney's doing that. When Heather does it, it's sad. I agree. What are you doing?

And this was not editing. This was not they had a long, drawn out conversation about random things going on in their lives. And then they got into the nitty gritty about what happened. This was as soon as they sat down. Oh my God. This table has a hook for my purse. This is incredible.

Guess what the fuck these bitchers were saying. Like, seriously, like, that's how quickly it happened. And I do want to say specifically, I don't think, and I think a lot of people are going to say that, you know, she's hating on Bronwyn exclusively for LB's love. I don't think that's true. I don't think that she's just, I just don't think she likes Bronwyn. And I think that can be separate from this whole thing. But when it comes to the situation that we find ourselves in time and time again with Heather sitting down one-on-one, spewing all of this nonsense and telling you LB exactly what happened, it's just. just to get in her good graces. It's just so she can get a little pat on the head. And I hate it because

Heather doesn't have to do this shit. She really does not. You weren't part of it. And that's the other side of a coin. When we watch shows like this, you did speak up for her and say, hey, we shouldn't do this. You don't have to go to Lisa and sit down and tell her all the shit that happened. When she watches it later and you go to the reunion, she'll be able to say, Heather had my back. Why didn't you have my back, Meredith? Instead, now you're sitting down with her the very next episode to tell her all the things that people were saying about her and throw them under the bus it's just it's it's i don't know it's slimy i don't like it yeah it was dirty dude it was dirty pool and as they're going through it it was a side of lisa that i haven't really seen because normally she convinces herself so much

that she's in the right that she almost convinces me yeah this was not that because she brings up she's like oh the one that's dismissed and the one that's getting dismissed it's like what about the other three. You have five. And this is not Reddit. This is not, you know, page six. This was in your local newspaper. So you have to answer to it. Darling. This is the Tribune, darling. So the evidence is stacked against you. And when we have evidence, you know us. We love factual evidence, hard copies of shit, receipts, receipts, receipts. This looks bad. And as she's trying to explain it away, I'm like, oh, this is weird. Usually she can wiggle out of it. I'm not feeling the wiggle here. and the best part is she's like nobody sues the bottom bitch which ironically thanks to

south park i know the bottom bitch is the hb i see that is that is who's in charge the which is i don't yeah oh it is oh it is do you want me to do you want me to i know what you're referencing i think that only applies to that specific and if you don't know what we're talking about Yes, only to pimps and prostitutes. Does that actually apply? I don't think the same can be said for a CEO of a company. I don't think anybody's calling the CEO of a company at Bottom Bitch. I think that's disrespect.

They should start. Could you imagine the respect you would command by just walking around going, I'm the bottom bitch? Everyone would be like, oh, God. Oh, my God. I just love the idea of you copy and pasting that for real life situations. I hope you have a done. Yeah, I'm, I will try it.

You know, I will in a situation, like, I'm the bottom bitch. So I was like, what? So anyway, there's a little vocab lesson for you guys. But Lisa being Lisa takes it to another level and makes her life seem completely different from everybody else's. I live a very different life than all of you. Everyone knows I do big things. No one thinks that. You do.

And we know Vita's doing well, or at least it was doing well, this. these lawsuits raise a lot of questions they seem especially the money part i don't know the loan the low oh maybe oh shopping and stuff not beta well vita's involved in at least one of them i do know that that might be the one that's there might be a chance yeah i don't i didn't read the docket so i have no idea what exactly is going on but i could see a world in which she's expensing things to vita and there's a trace back that shows hey this is a personal expense that you put through the company that could be one lawsuit and then the other stuff seems to be all personal stuff with the loans and using amex cards and having someone else pay for the mx cards so yeah there's a lot

of shit going on here that is not really connected and it seems like to me it seems like somebody's doing almost like a witch hunt if you've got this many like not connected issues that are popping up in lawsuits against lisa only against the assets that she has seems like somebody's coming after her in a weird way. I'm surprised. I don't know because the Amex thing. Yeah, the Amex thing is bizarre. And we'll talk a lot more about that at the end of the episode.

But the other stuff, I just don't really know exactly where it's stemming from. And I'm surprised that she talked as much as she did. Not that really, she really made any sense because she just kind of raised more questions than gave any answers. But it doesn't make a ton of sense. And I don't know exactly where it's coming from, but she's not doing herself any good. No. And the, like the final nail in the coffin here.

for Heather being slimy is like this line oh it's okay to have your feelings hurt by friends who betrayed you it's like are you trying to divide the entire group from her so you can have her to yourself like this is strong even for Heather we've seen it before but like this is a bold play very early on to get in Lisa's best graces I don't I don't even know how to explain that like it's okay to have your feelings hurt which is you know a little condescending but it's also almost It's like, I can be the shoulder you cry on Lisa. Come on over here. Yeah, it's, I don't like it.

I don't know, dude. It was slimy. Let's get to BW and W. Bronwyn and Whitney. And they're snowboarding a little bit. And, you know, Bronwyn's perspective is fascinating because she feels like she's moving forward with some people. But then, you know, she's alluding to Heather, obviously.

They had that nice moment in the kayak, but then communication breakdown around the fire. Neither of them did a great job explaining themselves, as we said earlier, but the lawsuits come back up. And she brings up the fact that five people are suing you, and then we get more evidence. Apparently, allegedly, there's text messages about this. And I will say later on, when we find out what those texts are, it's actually this scene, Face Palm overwhelmed in all caps and that's the only response to hey you owe me 400 grand where's the money that to me that's lisa that would be a text from lisa barlo yeah it absolutely would be and they even go deeper and they start talking about somebody potentially paying for her lip filler like what what is going on

there's so much shit going on when it comes to all of these lawsuits that's why i said they seem so much more personal because well i think the lip filler thing was just like a generalization of somebody's paying for her personal things via an yeah i mean they were talking about like the g wagon they were talking about a couple of other items that she had purchased purses clothing whatever it might be that's this is when i immediately thought this seems so personal and it seems like maybe it maybe it's whoever this individual is that actually did make payments on the amex card for whatever reason which maybe we'll get to at some point in time maybe he's the one or she's the one suing lisa that could be it and they're kind of going through different channels but

originally I thought this was all Vita. I really did. I thought when we were sitting at the RV campsite, I thought this was all just what Meredith said. It's just course of business. You have to loan money out. You have to get money. You got to borrow money here. Sometimes you don't pay it back. That's just how business works. That's how Meredith said at the campsite fire, if you could understand what she was saying. But you couldn't. Not really know. And it didn't track for me. Because again, it's like I understand that the wealthy take out loans to pay off loans. You don't have to pay taxes on loans. So, like, that's how they get richer and richer, but at the same time, you, you still have to pay off your debts. Like, you don't get to wash the debt.

And the reason, all of it, I know I'm jumping the gun, but fuck it. All of it tracks because it just seems like a Lisa move to say, like, there was no payment plan. There was no deadline, so I didn't pay it. And you can't make me pay it because you never set aside a deadline. Like, that sounds like a way that you would wiggle out. Like, I agree that I'm sure some of these are. personal. This one certainly sounds personal, but at the same time, if someone's fronting her an Amex bill. Yeah. For 400K, like, yeah, you'd probably be kind of fucking mad. So there's just,

there's so many questions. Apparently it's some mystery man that's behind the MX card. And in these text messages, allegedly it says, don't tell J.B. Husband boss about this money. But we've also gotten to the part in the story where Bromwin is now actively finding things. which now she's digging yeah doesn't really bode well for anybody who ever does this it also almost never hits like people who show up with receipts and they start reading things it's just court documents if it's going to be talked about it's going to be talked about you don't have to be the one to go do it somebody else is probably going to do it but i don't know if it's a great move for bromwin because it opens the door it opens the door for sure but now she's just stacking against lisa

and we also know what's coming around the quarter for bromwin with the identity theft and now we're trying to now we know where it comes from yeah we're sort of getting a pretty clear picture of how that all starts coming out but this is what happens you could have just left it at i read this in the newspaper she's got some some lawsuits you could do some light reading on your own i'm not going to tell you not to do that just so you at least have some facts to back yourself up when you would inevitably get no fight with lisa but anytime you're on camera saying i started going digging and i started reading more of it and now i've got some documents on my end and look at these text messages it just never bodes well so it's very interesting and again this is a brahmun move we saw

this in the beginning of last season she comes out so strong and she seems like she can defend herself she seems like she could be an actually good opponent for somebody on the cast and then she flounders so i think that same thing's going to happen again i'm not letting my guard down on that but it's creating some really good drama so i'm going to let it happen of course i'm not going to condemn her but yeah it's interesting it's it's it's going to end poorly for her yeah i'm sure it's not going to go great as we've seen happen uh before but maybe i'll hold out hope you don't i do how about that okay fair enough all right let's get to mary and robert junior uh this scene was this one hit me a lot obviously this these types of scenes tend to and

when he comes in she's asking how he's doing he's like you know i'm at a standstill right now and like not a dark place, but I can still feel that dark place out there. And everything he was saying hit me right in the gut because I remember fresh out of rehab, this terrifying feeling of like, what am I supposed to do now? And the one thing that connects you with your social life,

with other people is your substance of choice. So now you're looking at the world like, oh, I can't go to the bar and grab a beer with my friends. Oh, I can't go to a party and get, drunk. Oh, can I even hang out with people without being awkward without alcohol, which I found out I could, which was an amazing thing. But at the same time, that in each person too, it's always different. Some people simply cannot be around it. And some people can. It's not better or worse. It just is what it is. And with Robert, again, his vulnerability in speaking about this

stuff on camera, being so open about the fact that he's been dabbling in drugs again. You know, if that is only weed, as he says, we don't know. And I'm not going to sit here in speculate about it, but he's clearly going through some heavy shit. And I thought that Mary did a great job of understanding it. She did a great job of also being somewhat firm in, look, you need to isolate from these people. And that's one of the biggest things from addiction and recovery is people, places, and things that you used to familiarize yourself with.

If you hung out with these people, they're a bad influence. You hung out at this place. It's bad influence. If you did these things that led you down a bad path. So, like, understanding that you have to isolate at the same time, it raised questions for me in which, you know, he's struggling to find a community. And then I have questions as far as aftercare goes, like, is he going to N.A? Is he going to A?A. Is he going to meetings? Is he doing something? Because, like, a big facet of post rehab is meetings because it gives you a community. It gives you people to talk to. Because, of course, when you're home by yourself in your room, it's lonely as shit. it. Let me tell you right now. I've never been so alone in those like two months after rehab, but like I hope that he has that stuff. And again, I, there's not a lot to take away from

the scene other than it's very emotional. And also the vulnerability of these two and their ability to address this situation in the correct way is so refreshing once again because we've seen it mishandled so many times. So just bravo to these two second season in a row tackling this issue the correct way. Yeah. It's almost like, like a different type of reprieve we're used to having really good shows with a lot of drama and then we get a good reprieve with a family scene we get a good reprieve with you know taking the kids to soccer practice whatever it might be that just is kind of wholesome this is also wholesome in a way if you yeah if you want to go down that and you want to look at it that way it's just a lot

different and it's a lot more sharing and i hope that people are watching us the same way that we're watching us where it's not just it's not just a waste of a scene it's not just something like all right Let's move on. And look, even if it's just because Mary Cosby is incredibly captivating and you really can't figure out exactly what's going on with her, this is a really good glimpse into her actual life. She's a really good mom. And she's trying to get through this with her son, who she loves very much.

So if you look at it that way, that's a good way to look at it. Like you said, there's not a lot to really unpack with this, nor would we really want to unpack a lot of our business. It's more just more of the same from last year. Obviously, now we're a little bit more used to it. We're a little bit more used to seeing things like this when it comes to these two. So once again, we're just going to say good for you guys. Thanks for sharing.

Yeah. And I think the last thing I'll say on it for anybody watching, if you're not familiar with recovery and stuff like that, like this is very real. And I can say that from where I've been. Like what he's going through is extremely real. So if you ever wanted to get a glimpse into what it feels like to be on our side of things, this is a great scene to watch. All of their scenes together are really good scenes to watch.

This is what it's like. And it's scary as shit. So I'm constantly like, it's crazy because he's a Bravo TV character. I'm constantly thinking about this kid. Like when the shit pops up with Mary or shit pop, I'm always like, I hope he's doing good. I hope he's doing good. So I'm curious to see how this season transpires. Again, obviously, it looks like we're going to head down a dark path before it's all

said and done. Hopefully it bounces back. Relapse, unfortunately, is part of the recovery process for a lot of people. It doesn't mean he's a bad person. It just means this is really hard. So we'll keep an eye on it. But as you said, as I've said, kudos to these two. It's really strong stuff.

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Absolutely, which is so fucking annoying that they sit down one-on-one, which is what we need to do, right? We saw last year, Heather was so disingenuous that scene that she went over to Bronwyns. Nothing was going to get accomplished. In this moment, it seems like group conversations with these two don't work because then you get Whitney piling in, right? Or you get Meredith jumping in. It just does it. It always sidetracks, and they always end up saying it the wrong way with other people around. let's just do this together that irritates heather and bronwyn going into the scene is like i just

want to either one be friends or two at least be cordial i'm like these are very reasonable goals but when i see heather sitting in the car waiting and mean mugging braun when as she enters the restaurant i'm like this is already off to a tough start for me because she's off to a tough start and it also looks like producers are making you guys sit down like you don't want to do this but producers are in her ear telling you, go sit with Bromwood one-on-one. We need to hash this out or at least get to a different level because it's getting to a point where you guys can't stand each other, mostly Heather can't stand Bromwin.

And it's not making for good TV because we know what to expect every single time. The best relationships on these shows are the ones that go up and down. Look at these two. Look at these two. We see it a little bit later. Brittany hugs Meredith. They were good friends. They were on the phone twice.

They're not good friends anymore. Meredith hates her. They went to lunch once for hours. They went to lunch. They went to lunch once. They went to lunch. That's where we're going to leave that. And now they're able to hug.

Like those are the types of friendships where, yeah, you can have a little bit of laughing moments and yeah, you can have a lot of upset moments. That's what we need. We can't have this like immediate just disdain for somebody else every time they talk. It's not good TV. So I don't think that Heather wanted to do this. I think it was against her will. And I hope that she's able to at least take from the conversation.

we can be cordial at least a little bit. I don't see it happening just because Heather has ulterior motives, especially when it comes to Lisa Barlow, but at least fucking try for a couple episodes. Just see how it goes. Wouldn't that be nice just to like give it a shot? We've yet to see it. The walls up around Heather when it comes to Bronwyn are insane to me.

Bronwyn seems like a good time. Like everyone that's friends with her seems to have fun. I don't understand what this wall is between them. And the funniest part is as they're talking about all of this shit, we can all agree the way that you both said what you said wasn't what you meant and it didn't come out great Heather it did sound like you were trying to say like I'm so ready for my kids to fuck off I don't want to be a mom anymore I'm so ready you just be single with no kids is what I got from it correct but I don't believe that's what you meant I know you love your daughters yeah right I know you love your kids and I know you're a good mom so of course you didn't translate it the right way so can we give the same grace to Bronman who's trying her best to relate to late, but is not the best in the moment surrounded by a bunch of people. She tends to step on her own feet, hence why

she wants to have this one-on-one. But your response to that, when she says something nice explaining her stance, is why don't you do this in front of the group? It's like, because it doesn't work. Because I physically cannot do this in front of the group. Yeah. It's just, you know,

it's just simply a miscommunication. Something's lost in translation between these two. And I think the end of the day it's quite clear the roadblock here is heather and it's because heather is friends with lisa last year she had her own shit with with bronwyn it is what it is this year it looks like because lisa went on a a tweet tour in the off season bashing bronwyn over and over again heather clearly is looking at that stuff heather clearly wants to be friends

with lisa heather can't bend the need of brunwin or even high-fiver because then she'll be on the outs with lisa barlow and that just simply cannot happen So we reach an immovable object, which is never fun. We don't like those. We like to see some kind of bridge forward so that we're not stuck on this, which is a non-factor for the next 10 episodes. Yeah, it would really just be annoying because we know that every single time that Lisa and Bromley get into it, which is going to happen probably every episode for the rest of the season,

Heather's always going to be staunchly on Lisa's side. She's always going to be against Bromwin. The best housewives are the ones that can flip-flop. If you're able to see both sides and go back and forth and talk some sense into somebody else, we love you. That's how it works. The ones that are immovable and won't hear the other person out are the most annoying housewives on TV. Heather, you're already skating pretty thin. There's not a whole lot of give here.

People already don't really like you. Steele and I both like you because we love you. We love you. There's so much more potential there. But you always do shit like this that stands out. And it's like, come on. You don't have to do this. You can stand by yourself for a little while.

and other people will probably like you and you'll have your own storyline and it could be a little interesting. It could actually keep you on the show for a long period of time. Not that I think there's going to be any changes anytime soon, but it is just very funny that all this always happens

because we know how good Heather can be and she does shit like this and you just want to, you just put a smacker like, hey, enough. Come on. Stop doing this shit. Come on. It's like when she's good,

she's great. You know, and then like the next episode she does something. You're like, no, why did you? do that. I don't do that. I was just gearing up to sing your praises on the podcast. I was just gearing up to say she finally figured it out. And then you do something like this. And it's just so frustrating. It's the Heather Gay M.O. Do we see it all the time? And for, oh, by the way, Lisa Barlow is back to live tweeting these episodes. And oh, good.

Oh, fucking great. Those are always fun. People had a problem with her first confessional look, which it was a little rough. She didn't look that great. She tweets out another picture. and says, this one was much better. I agree with you guys. That first look was not great, but that's why you got to keep rolling with the punches. And that's all she said. I love that.

But that's why she's great. I know. She's off to a rocky start as far as credibility goes. As far as entertainment value, she's always going to be top tier. And like, that's what we expect out of her. I actually would expect, and I know the new Brody cast tried to do this,

but it didn't really work. I would expect more housewives who are mainstays to interact with the fans a little bit more on social media because it's always fun and when you do that people like you or they love to hate you whatever it might be it creates this buzz around you Lisa does it so well on Twitter she doesn't even have a verified account she just goes on and just talks about the episode and then she just spews a ton of shit about whoever's talking shit on her and throws up all these like text conversations or whatever it might be she's so good at it and it's just so simple just do more of that I totally agree and I think the highlight of the

is seen for me is just the double standard that Heather has for Lisa and for Bronwyn because Lisa tweets all these things. Bronwyn responds in kind meeting her where she's at as she says that makes sense to me, but that's not okay. But Lisa tweeting mean things, that's okay. And it's just again painting this picture of Heather that we don't love, but let's get to Amy's and I don't personally like these kinds of parties. we talk about it you know the eyes wide shut thing uh it gives me those vibes i don't like these

they make me uncomfortable but here we are we're at a utah socialite event i thought you meant you don't like housewave scenes at these parties no i don't care that that that's either hit or miss sometimes they're good sometimes a bad i don't like high society events because they give me the heby-gbies a little bit you know what i mean many Mormons in one room i don't really what is this mass what the hell are we doing here no I don't even know if they call it mass. I'm not sure what Mormons, what's their worship time? Mass?

I think they just call it worship time. More mass? More mass. That's actually what this party is. So there's mass and then there's more mass. This is more mess. Okay, so we're more mass at Amy's house. Amy's more mass party.

I'm glad we figured that out. J.B. Husband, boss, and L.B. arrived. And we have some very awkward hellos. And one thing that you're always going to get with Lisa, that is exceptional. is there inability to tiptoe into something if something's going on it will be brought up immediately and sure enough it's brought up but like i love who brings it up because obviously she goes to meredith she's got her ducks in a row she's going to go to meredith first because that one isn't that big of an issue she heard from heather that she was silent she didn't call her out

for being silent she just asked her what happened meredith did a good job of saying yeah there was a lot of things said about you, not really sure, you know, obviously you can get into it. You should go talk to so and so and so and talk to that. Exactly. That's perfect. Who comes out of left field who I was expecting to come out of left field is Brittany. Sister Brittany. You should have heard everything that they said about you.

And by the way, Lisa opened her arms and gave her a big old hug and a kiss on the cheek. They are good friends. They're sisters. I don't care what fucking anybody says. Brittany and Lisa did become good friends after New York. And if somebody tries to take that away from me, I will fight you. sister Brittany lock it yeah we we've seen it in real time so you can't dispute it until you know

Lisa inevitably gets rid of her but that doesn't matter anyway Britney throws brown went under the bus immediately and brings up the biggest allegation that was made which is you were compared to Jen Shaw she does say that Angie's the one that said that we agreed as well when that was thrown out there like whoa no that's that's a bridge too far and Angie tried to reel it in almost immediately, but once you throw that out there, again, the comparison is because she's catching a couple of lawsuits that we don't know a whole lot about yet. She's stealing money and retirement funds from the elderly.

That's a little strong and deserves to be brought up. But the thing is like, go ahead. No one brought up Lisa's original comment that she compared Angie to Jen Shaw. Oh, that's a good point. Right, right, right, right. But like that never gets brought up. And that's the thing that always, it's always lacking when it comes to an argument. with Lisa and I just forgot about it too really well but we talked about it last week we had a

screenshot of it from production that put it on the middle of the episode Lisa said it first so why is Lisa I'm sorry she said it about Bronwyn I misspoke not Angie but she said it about Bronwyn another person in the group another person on the cast why is it now all the sudden it's grounds for excommunicado because all of a sudden Angie Kay is saying that she's like Jen Shaw you already said it it's already in your arsenal you're already thinking that when somebody lies or somebody's doing something that's shady, you're going to call them Jen Shaw as an insult. But if somebody does it back to you, that's no go. Absolutely not.

How dare you do that? Whitney alluded to it earlier on the mountain. The fact that, like, Lisa can do X, Y, and Z. But if anyone else does it, that's problematic. So we're getting more and more evidence. I myself, this is the Lisa Barlow effect. I forgot about that entirely. Look, I love Lisa.

This show does not, I still don't think it works that well without Lisa. I agree. I think she's a great housewife, and I love her personally. I think she's very, like very funny and incredible, but I want fairness. I want there to be some people even playing field of the fire. Give me an even playing field on every show and I'm a happy boy. I agree 100%. But Lisa goes to confront Angie immediately.

And she's like, well, what did Brittany tell you so that I can clear this whole mess up? And smart. The lawsuits come up. Yeah, it was a smart play. And I think even Lisa's probably like, yeah, okay. a little bit. Lisa starts to, she's rattled and you don't see her get

rattled this quickly very often. I was like, uh-oh, because she goes, Bronwood didn't go to law school. I didn't think she went to college. I was like, what does that have to do with reading a lawsuit? Like, we can all read it. We already, Heather just talked to her about BYU, which is college.

So, I mean, she did go to college, but yeah, we're not used to leave. I thought she left because she had gone. She did leave. She got pregnant. I don't know who the hell knows exactly what happens. But we don't use. usually see Lisa lobbying these level of insults this early on.

Now, you could say that last season was brutal for Lisa and she was constantly playing defense. She does it really well. She might just be lethargic at this point. She's just tired of dealing with it. And she's just going right ahead for the low blows. That's where she's going. But the other side of that is, why are you not addressing the rumors?

Why are you not addressing the lawsuits? Why are you just sweeping that under the rug? She didn't even do a good job of sweeping under the rug. She just moved on to insults. So she went straight to insults. And clumsy, clumsy insults at that, that we, we see these. These are not like non-existent in Lisa Barlow's arsenal. But as you said, these come out after 30 minutes of back and forth where you're trying to make sense.

And then it goes haywire in episode 16, like not now. No, not episode two. And she starts trying to go through everything. And Bronwyn, holy shit, Bronwyn, absolutely clears her every single time that she tries to bring anything up. She's like, you know, I've got questions about you. And like, I think other people should have a pause about when it comes to you because of the things going on. Like, this stuff doesn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, well, I've got a pause about you, gout dick sucker.

It's like funny. Sure. Very funny. But what? What are we doing? It's a great insult. That's that I'm not, I'm not trying to take away from. the insult itself. It's phenomenal, especially considering Todd's age. But again,

that she said it like six times because she had nothing else to say. Brahman was doing a really good job of keeping. She was very even keeled. She tried to stay on task talking about lawsuits. And she knew that she had Lisa rattled, which is what Brahman was missing last year. And I hope that she can continue this. I'm still on the fence about Brahman as a housewife. Not really sure if she's going to be good. Not really sure if she can handle herself. As we saw last year, she crumbled. But if she can do this and she can do this consistently, this was really, really good arguing because all you did was just keep Lisa on task

and you didn't get rattled after every insult that she lopped at you. You even made a couple of jokes about sucking dick. You started screaming about sucking dick, asking the other ladies if they suck dick. Whitney was just happy to be there. And she's like, I fucking love sucking dick. Yeah, it's great.

And heard her in the other room. He got rock hard. He came running in. Did you see somebody fell over. He knocked over a drink tray running over to his wife. they were in the middle of asking Jared if he's in love with Brittany and then all of a sudden Justin heard Whitney say suck dick and he's like I gotta go boys so see you later I heard the fire up the mud room get the paints ready we're getting after it we're having a little sex art

party but she was doing a really good job of like not only keeping on task with Lisa but also looking around and not frantically we've seen this a lot with a frantically look around for any sort of help she was pointing at people saying well you suck dick technically you're married you suck dick for money. That works, right? That's how we do this. Now let's get back to Lisa. And she didn't spend too much time completely deviating from all the things that she was trying to accomplish. She's just trying to ask Lisa a couple of simple questions, which Lisa is not answering at all. She's just throwing insults. And it looked pretty rough, honestly. Lisa's been so much better at this in the past. And I do wonder if she's just getting a little tired.

This is a bad showing for her. This is a really bad showing because she brings up. We love this. Love some evidence. She brings up. up some evidence about the court case in regards to the amex and leases like it's not in the court case production does her dirty bang right on the screen big bold yellow highlighted letters yep it's in the court case so you're not doing yourself any favors when it's public record and people can read it like it would do you a service to read your own lawsuits which i don't think you have i think your lawyers have i think you should read it so you know what the allegations are against you so that he's just not going the distance. She needs to go to the distance. She said that earlier too. She's like, I went the distance with

Angie, like, but she didn't. You treated Angie like shit for everything we've seen or whatever. If you want to die on that hill, you were wrong too, by the way, because you went after the wrong person. Well, we're still not really sure if Meredith was actually spreading DM. Meredith was definitely behind it. She was absolutely doing that. There's no doubt. And the funniest part, the really, really funny part that I laugh about from time to time is that Meredith was probably communicating with reality von T's without realizing it was. Oh, for sure. And that is so funny to me. And I guarantee you that keep, well, it probably doesn't keep Meredith up at night.

Not anymore, but I bet back that it did. I don't think it ever did. Honestly, I think she sleeps. She lost it in her correspondence. She's not caught up in her DMs. But yeah, I agree. Bromond did great. And, you know, accusing her of sucking dick for money and it's her husband does not land.

It doesn't work. No one's at home like, oh shit. Everyone's like, yeah, they're married. What are we doing? And yeah, he's older and away. It was a funny thing that Bramman said like two years ago talking about an Amex bill that she would get. She would see Todd's face and she'd be like, well, I can suck your dick.

And then maybe we can make this whole Amex bill go away. Funny when it's your husband. Not funny when it's potentially a guy. A stranger. Who, by the way, and I did think this because we saw it in the trailer when we go back to the conversation that Whitney and Brahman had on the ski mountain. I thought they were going to go a little deeper. Do we think it's the Utah jazz guy? Do we think it's the horse-ed-steeds guy?

Well, I mean, that's the mystery, man. So they will put two and two together at some point, but that story will come back up. Whitney will be involved in that. And I don't know if I like that because when Whitney gets involved, I don't tend to like that. It gets, it gets sloppy usually. It gets very sloppy, yeah. So give us some time to prepare. Hopefully somebody can help her with that.

Yeah, I don't know, but it was a great showing by Bromwin. And it goes to show you, it's a great show because we all expected as soon as this popped off. Bromwin looked nervous when she walked in the room. didn't expect this at all. I expected Lisa to just pack her up in a suitcase and send her out of the fucking party. Instead, it was the other way around. And I love that because you got to expect the unexpected on this show.

Especially with the line, I get my Amex bill in a box. I was like, hell yeah, you do because you're rich, rich, as we know from the Palm Springs trip. But it was just exceptional work. I was blown away. I really was.

And I get where you're coming from and being a little hesitant to jump all the way back on the Bronwyn train, Because this is what we, this is pretty much cut. We always root for it. We did it last year, dude. We're like, this is it. She's the best.

And then she fucking tanked. So I'm not going to jump all in. I'm further in than you are because this was a tremendous showing. And I have never seen Lisa so incapable of a good response. Like she was so fucking rattled this whole time that her big insult was you suck your husband's dick. It's like, okay, what, what are we doing? You can't do any better than that. And you still haven't answered.

Like she has not answering anything The frustrating part is And I want Lisa to be good Because I also want this argument To be a great back and forth Like a great tennis mat Just vollowing Vallying

Jesus Following Following No I was like in the middle of hiccuping You remember that? Oh yeah Once No I like I really want to see a good tennis match

I want to see you guys volley back and forth And be like whoa holy shit Didn't expect that Whoa that's great Instead all we got was a one sided match She just absolutely destroyed Lisa, and Lisa had days and days to prepare. And I know you were going through contract disputes. We can talk about it now.

You're going through contract disputes. That's why you're not on the first episode. Fully understand that, whatever. But instead, you take Heather out to lunch, you get all the dirt. You probably are talking to Brittany every night. I assume that's the person that you're calling on the phone. You already know what's going on there. You know exactly what everybody has said to this point.

And you know what the content is. You know what they're talking about. Go read the court documents. so that you know what they're talking about because other people who are trying to bring you down are reading them and they know them verbatim and they're going to use them to insult you and take you to task and instead she was underprepared and that's not usually what we see from lisa so i was disappointed i was too i was disappointed in her i was very appointed in broadwin is that thing disappointed i don't like i don't like it i don't care for it after i said it i'm with you there

I'm not going to say it again. Now I am curious, though, if that is a thing. Like, if I'm happy with you, Shooter, am I appointed in you? Yes, there's no way to say about sounding sexual. And also the prepositional phrase, you said, in me, and I don't like that. Well, I'm disappointed in you. Yeah, but you're pointed in me. And I don't, yeah.

Appointed in you. Yeah, no. There's appoint me? I don't know. I'm going to, I'm going to appoint you. Apologize. Anyways, that's all I got. Let's get to some questions.

I almost did the sign off too quickly. Let's see what the people are saying about this one. I thought that we were going to be doing that. I thought we were screeners, you know, from the premiere, which we only get the premiere and then nothing. It's really annoying. Not complaining. First one up here from Honda accordingly.

Why is Brittany here? Because Brittany fucking rocks. Brittany is pivotal. She needs to be on. show the best you just got to you got to watch her through the right let's the chef effect it's the southern charm you have to watch her through the like the correct lens don't take her too seriously appreciate what she brings to the show and you'll enjoy her much more from pretty ricky 22 why is heather constantly so combative with bronwyn we're really not

sure i'm almost to the point does this go back to like this go back to high school like that's where I started. Like, how far back does this go? I don't think they knew each other in high school. I don't think they knew each other in college either. She was friends with Angie in high school. That was like a big friend. That's right. That's right. I don't think she knew Bramwin, but they got off on the wrong foot and they never got back. And I think Bramond tried a little bit here and there to try to clear the air, but Heather was not having it. So I don't think that she likes her. I do think that there is a byproduct of being Lisa's friend and immediately

hating who Lisa hates, which Heather's doing right now. But I don't think she really likes Bronwyn. That's, I mean, clearly, from J.D. Lakin, great start for Bronwyn, but do scenes for next week make it look like she'll back down again. That's what we're waiting for. That's what we're used to, is the stumble after an amazing performance. We're hoping not, but if history tells us anything, that is her MO. So I think this could be a big sophomore year for her where we may see is stumble. And then obviously, we know, she takes some time off on a trip to deal with the fraud and stuff. Yeah. How she returns from that is going to speak volumes to what type, like, how good of a housewife she is. She was, she was on botch what happens live and she handled herself

pretty well. Andy didn't really ask her crazy, shady questions. He didn't press her that hard, no. I do think that she was a little bit more confident because the first question was, who do you believe more Lisa or Bromwood and Bromwood won that by a landslide. So I do think that helped. But I don't know. From K Sparkle K, is Lisa just pissed that Bromwood wasn't won and done? I don't think so.

I don't get that vibe from her. She's really not. I don't think she cares who's on the show. Yeah, I agree with that. I think she's an incredible housewife. And I don't believe that she has crossed over into the realm of this is my show, get off my show. I get to call the shots or anything like that.

I don't get that from Lisa at all. I think she thinks it's her show. I don't think she cares who else is on it. I agree. That's the vibe I get from Lisa. Yeah, a lot of people in here talking about how Lisa lost, which is crazy. Even like this, K. Looker Woods, for the love of God, the blinking, Lisa, am I just now noticing this? Or is it new?

Is this a new tick? Is she losing it? Is she starting to falter? I will say this. She's had years of being the HBIC and everybody coming for constantly. And done a great job with it. And she's done an awesome job, but it is going to wear you down at some point. She might just be fucking tired of dealing with this.

And I wouldn't blame her from Dan Jay Falconer. Has anybody ever rattled Lisa as quickly as Bronwyn? Not since her and Meredith had a falling out. And that wasn't even rattling. That was like, that was that was Lisa Barlow before L.B. Yeah. It's like when we start, if you go back to the early seasons when Jen Shaw was the clear it cut self-imposed dictator of this.

show in the in the before times if you want to call them that in the before times in the before times uh Lisa was Meredith lackey more or less like she was hooked onto her pocket most of the time and then they had that massive falling out Lisa had a really rough time with that but from that blossomed LB this standalone star who we all love so much so no we've never seen this really because I wouldn't say that she was in the same place back then as she is now. So this is, this was new. That's why I think everyone's talking about it because it's something that was pretty shocking to be honest.

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Doesn't look like there's any other questions pertaining to anything else except for, which I didn't notice, maybe you did from J. Bay the Hut 713. Did the waiter with the bug eyes scare you to? Yeah.

No, yeah. I saw him. The guys. They flashed over to him real quick. It was Lisa and Heather. I loved that lunch scene. There's two, there's a couple behind them and there was two women eating to the left of them. And this scene, usually I don't, like, feel like the room is awkward.

Yeah. But I think because it was so quiet and they were so loud and standing up and it was a smaller room. Yeah. Like, I felt for the two women, because it looked like they were just trying to eat lunch and they're like, ah, this is uncomfortable. Like, do we look at the camera? Do we not? The couple behind, like, the dude was just, like, smiling at the camera like, what the hell's going on here what is this yeah um it's been funny with those scenes depends on

where you are like new york they don't give a fuck that you're filming care l-a they are excited because they know exactly who you are they're taking pictures as a crap shoot yep yep but every other question is the same question about lisa and bronwyn and brondwin taking her to tasks so that's all i got you got anything else nope all good here well we are geared up for another phenomenal season of Roslick. So buckle up, bros. That's our show. Bros. Got to go.

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