Bros & Shows - Brynn for the Win (RHONYs14ep04, Crappie Lakes01ep5,6)

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

What's up Bro's?! To get things started on todays episode, we return to Crappie Lake to see how Sonja and Lu are doing. Between the talent show, the playground, the dog shelter and the hot tub at the ...hotel, these women are putting their money (and time) where their mouth is and getting things done around town. The shows still delightful to watch as this week we see them prep the town for the Variety Show. Sonja is enjoying the process while Luann is using her "expertise" to be a little bit pushy... Overall this show is the best. We will watch every single episode. Then its on to RHONY for what we agreed was the best episode yet. We are getting into the back story's of our cast members week by week and this week Brynn took center stage in what is both a fascinating and uplifting story of where she came from to where she is now. Growing up in Indiana, Brynn let's us know that she is biracial. Having been adopted by her mom's mom who was white, and navigating being biracial in a predominantly white Indiana town was not easy as she tells us. But through a hair salon Brynn was able to connect to her heritage and with black culture overall. It's an extremely interesting story and one that was not easy to tell so hats off to Brynn for speaking up and sharing it with us the audience. We also get a little more on both Ubah and Erin, as we learn that Ubah has lost her mom, her number one confidant, as she tries to make a decision regarding the future of Ubah Hot (we need this hot sauce). Erin tell us about her parents and her real estate background. Jessel and Pavit have a tough discussion and we see Jenna Lyons stir the pot... All that and more on our mid-week episode! Time Stamps: Crappie Lake (13:40) RHONY (24:17) This episode is brought to you by Rocket Money. Never lose track of your subscriptions again. With Rocket Money, find, cancel and manage YOUR subscriptions today with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney.com/bravbros! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:30 As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be... Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, joined as always. You forgot to announce your name. I'm so excited for your name. I'm so excited for your name because I thought of it while I was sitting in the airport. And I'm so excited to say it that I forgot to announce my name.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only, Scroats my Goats. What's... Oh, dude. God, Scroats short for Scroatum. Wait, somebody. But you can take some solace in knowing that in one of the saddest moments, I've had because, as you know, when I dropped my daughter off, I turned into a depressed, very, very
Starting point is 00:02:35 sad human for like a week, it takes me a while to bounce back. You can take some comfort in knowing that I was sitting doing bra-brose stuff because I was trying to stay occupied while I was waiting for my return flight after dropping my daughter off after the summer. It's always a sad time for me. But I was sitting there and I was listening to the intro of one of our episodes. I was like, oh, I got to think of a new shooter name this week. And it just came to me. It was like, oh, scroats. At least they came to you that way. I was. I was going to ask you how else it could have come to you. Just sitting there like, oh, I got to think of a name, like, scoots, shoots,
Starting point is 00:03:07 slutes, what else do I got? A scroats, scroats. I've never said scroats in my whole life. Well, going through my mind, I was like, oh, steals in the airport bathroom, saw a dude balls. No, no, no. I said, oh, what's another name for balls? I mean, yeah, unintentionally.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I might have seen a sack or two, but no, that came to my, I just popped in my head. But it did make me smirk and, like, in a moment where I was super duper bummed out. I got a little reprieve. So thank you for that. You're welcome. Yeah. I'm happy that I can bring you joy in sad times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 So I took a little trip this weekend to go see my cousin. I had one funny anecdote. Had a really good weekend. Recharge, played a little golf, went out for a long weekend. I went up to the bar and randomly started talking to this girl sitting next to me. And she looked at me dead in the eyes and goes, you look like a young hot Pablo Escobar. what I had no idea what to say I just burst out and laughter at that point because you know you get like the run of the mill ones all the time that was a really funny I don't
Starting point is 00:04:09 even know it was a pickup line I was expected to say oh you're your shooter from no no I didn't no recognition out there Columbus Ohio shout out so if you do live in Columbus he didn't see me this weekend sucks if you did see me you didn't say anything you heard also mind your business because I don't know what I was up to for the most part. But yeah, no, you know, ready to get back into it. Got a great show for you coming up tonight. We have to start it off on a sad note. A lot of people are asking for updates on Riba.
Starting point is 00:04:40 A lot of people have reached out asking about GoFundMe's and all sorts of really wonderful things. The response to the dog fiasco, if you didn't listen last week, I found and rescued a very, very neglected dog. I named her Riba. We were doing everything we could. We got her to an animal hospital where she was getting the best care she could get. Unfortunately, Riba did not make it.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Her previous owner was such a pile of shit that they made her life so miserable that she just simply could not, simply could not fight anymore. So I took some comfort in knowing that the last 24 hours of its life was actually in a hospital, it was getting treatment, it was actually being taken care of. But to everybody that reached out, thank you so much for your thoughts, your prayers for Riba. She's truly in a better place now after, you know, seeing what she went through. So we're looking into who the owner was and possible legal action and recourse and what we can do to get back at the person that did this because I'm fucking livid. Super sad.
Starting point is 00:05:42 But thank you to our amazing listeners. You guys reached out. Like three or four people said something about starting to go fund me. So the fact that you guys were as invested as we were, thank you so much. just say a little prayer tonight for Reba. She's in a much better place, like I said, but she did not make it, unfortunately. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:59 RIP Reba. Yes. This episode is dedicated to Reba? Yeah. This one's dedicated to Reba. But let's get into the Bravo of everything. We've got to do our power rankings. We're back to our two episodes a week.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Thank God. Like I said, it throws me off when we don't do too. It does. It certainly does. Obviously, we had a lot of things going on the last couple of weeks with the live show. And poppies in town, Orange County is a fucking trash pile of a show. So that doesn't help. But yeah, we're back.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Here we are. Here we are. And I want to actually, before we do the power rankings, I want to ask you because we're getting closer to our first ever BravoCon. Oh, yeah. We've been getting a lot of questions about it. Are we going to be there? What are we doing for BravoCon? We are going to be there.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Shoots and Steel will be at BravoCon. We do not know what to expect. We need to book our hotels this week. A perpetual thing that we talk about every week. This week we are going to book the hotel room. How are you feeling about it? Are you excited, apprehensive, perhaps? Honestly, so I was talking to my cousin about this.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I have actually never been to Vegas, and I'm happy that I'm going there under this pretense, rather than just going in general. Can I share something with you? What's up? I've been to Vegas once when I was 16 just because my dad was managing a baseball game. So I haven't really been to Vegas. Vegas either.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah. Yeah. Like, honestly, if I were just to go, say I was going for a golf trip or going for a bachelor party or whatever, it could get weird and dark and I might not make it home. At least that's what I was thinking. Yeah. I mean, that's one of the things that I think about. But this way, you know, I'm going to have a good, like, work-life balance going on out
Starting point is 00:07:40 there. So I won't be able to really screw my life up. So that's great. That's your sober friend going with you. Yeah. Point out the dumb shit. As long as I don't escape you, which I might. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I don't know. I've had to chase you guys around drunk for the last five years. I've gotten pretty good at it. Well, get me a leash. I'll get you a leash in a house. Oh, no, I'll get you a balloon. I'll tie a balloon to you so I can just look at the crown back where the fuck shoot up there is. I did that before.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I was on a work trip in Dallas and we went out downtown Dallas and one of my friends decided to give me a balloon because I was known for just leaving the group and doing my own thing for the most part. But here's the thing. When you go out with Shooter, so he may disappear for like an hour. it's alarming to some. If you know shooter, he will be back. And there's no telling where he went. It could be another bar. It could be a bar in another part of the city
Starting point is 00:08:28 that you would need to take an Uber to get to. But he will always come back. Yep. Let's find my way back home. It's really true. He does. He just vanishes. Then he pops back up. You might even switch locations.
Starting point is 00:08:39 This is the most shocking part. And no one will hear from him. Like, we might go to a new bar and be like, oh, I don't know. He'll pop up at the new bar. I'm like, hey, I know a lot of times he'll show up there with new people. Got to make new friends. So definitely tying a balloon to you in Vegas, but I might also wear a GoPro so I can document the entire thing. But, yeah, we'll just have to do what Bravo does and turn it off after like 11.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Yeah, no, we'll turn our camera phones on for the real stuff. Yeah. Anyway, I'm excited for BravoCon. We are going to be there, so we will see yous all out there. Give us recommendations on what to do. We don't really know. It's our first one ever. Yeah, and I imagine it's going to be weird for a lot of people because it's the first time it's in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:09:17 That's true, too. So it's going to be a whole new setup, which is perfect for us. because, yes, like you said, we can get recommendations, say it was in New York, people can tell us what to do. I think structurally it'll be the same for the most part. At least that's what we understand from the people that we've talked to. But as far as locations go, nobody knows what to expect. Yeah, so you're in it with us.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Yeah. And you know what? Mind your business. If I'm gambling on like a Mac football game at like 1230 on Saturday. It's never been to Vegas before. I've never been to Vegas. I've got to get a little bit of action in there, you know? I'll make sure.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Action, if you will. Make sure he gets home. Yep. Action. I want to, if anybody here knows Maction. They play on like Tuesday nights, though. But yeah, it's all right. But let's get to Power Rankings.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Let's get back on track here. Power rankings for our current shows. This is a wacky one, honestly, because I think that it changes a lot with these. I'm really excited for, like, other shows to come back. Yeah. Like Summer House is coming in September. I'm excited for that. We saw that Lindsay and Danielle, I guess, are cool again.
Starting point is 00:10:12 We've seen some pictures pop up with them. They were in Montauk together. Summer House is not back in September. That's Southern Charm. Southern Charm. Thank you. Summerhouse is... Probably later than that. They're still filming.
Starting point is 00:10:22 They filmed through... They just dropped the trailer. They filmed Labor Day weekend. That was Southern Charm. Oh, fuck. Oh, you know why'm getting confused? Why? Because we get Austin and Craig and Paige
Starting point is 00:10:31 are kind of... Oh, Southern Charm looks awesome. Southern Charm, that trailer looked great. Yes. Yeah, I'm excited for Southern Charm to come back. Summer House, my bad, they're filming right now. Yes. Not coming back until the winter.
Starting point is 00:10:43 That's my fault. People are going to be up in arms. I assume that Winter House will be coming out soon, I don't care. I know. That's another, you know what? That's another one that they should actually delay. It'll just be sad Schwartz having to answer a bunch of questions about Sandoval the whole time.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Because he was the only one to want, right? Yeah. Like they had to both come back or Schwartz had gone and Sandoval didn't. Sanneville didn't go. And then Schwartz supposedly came back to film the rest of VPR, then went back to Winterhouse and it came back for the reunion. Okay. That's if I get my timeline right there. So we've got that coming out.
Starting point is 00:11:16 We got Beverly Hills coming out. I think October. No, that was November. November. Yeah, you got to stay with us. I know that we got one bad review one time. It's like, these guys never know when these fucking shows are. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:11:26 All right? You know what? We're not talking about the show as if it just aired yesterday. It's not like we missed a show that aired yesterday. We're talking about shows that are coming out in a few months. Fuck off. Are you? I'm great.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I'm fully recharged. Last couple of weeks, I was stretched so thin and so tired. And now I'm like, all right, I'm back. Well, it's good to have you back at full force here. You're really not pulling any punches tonight. but um but let's fucking we keep missing the power rankings right that we keep getting sidetracked power rankings no preamble no no ambling no power rankings are as follows crappy lake still high at the top it is so enjoyable I'm having a lot of fun watching it
Starting point is 00:12:05 uh it's so funny because now I wish they were like 35 minutes episodes because I'm enjoying it so much they're too short yeah we're the fucking worst if you guys can't tell we're never happy. You know why? Because we're Philly sports fans. I think this is where it roots from. Yeah. So we are never happy with second place.
Starting point is 00:12:25 But Roney has moved into number two for me. It was actually down below Atlanta last week. But Roney moved back up. I thought that this was a really good episode. We got to know everybody a little bit more, especially on a deeper level, as we'll get into. I've got Atlanta at three, but really close to Roney. Honestly, I wouldn't argue with one or the other.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And then deep in like the San Andreas fault somewhere is O.C. Yeah, that's fair. Like just deep down there. I couldn't go any deeper. I'm going to go, I'm right with you. I think that for me, Roney is higher than Atlanta by a larger margin. I still enjoy Atlanta. Larger margin.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Larger margin. Is that the wrong thing? No, it's just hard to say. I think with Atlanta, like, the drama's good and I'm intrigued by the whole Drew thing. I think maybe I could be letting commenters, like, leak into my opinions a little bit, which I don't love. Yeah, I don't do that. But just more so, like, when they say that the drama, previous seasons has been so great and like this stuff you know when they had nini leaks on the show
Starting point is 00:13:22 and they had some of the older cast members on the show that there was so much better just as far as what was going on that i think that the drew drama and to her credit like i feel like drew's really carried the season whether you like her or hate her regardless she's been the center point for most of the shit going on but i feel like maybe she's not the character to do that you know what i mean like maybe she doesn't have the star power to allow for her to carry an entire scene i think we said that even before all this ralph stuff started yeah she was in the middle of a couple of different situations and while yeah she wasn't my favorite to start off with just because i recognized her as like a candy crony now she's kind of taken center
Starting point is 00:14:02 stage and like i like you just said i i really don't think that she has a star power i don't think she's polarizing enough or maybe it's just that people don't like her as much as maybe say candy or can you? Like they don't, I should say stand her as much. I think that that as newcomers to all this, that's the vibe that I get. Yes. People don't like Drew as much so they're not as excited about her. They might just feel indifferent about her. You know what I mean? Like if you feel indifferent about somebody and then they take center stage, you aren't going to be happy about it. If you hate somebody and they take center stage, you're going to have a lot of opinions. If you love somebody and they take center stage, you're going to defend them until you're dead. So you think
Starting point is 00:14:37 the show is being hurt by indifference. Yes, probably. That's a really, I think that's a good analysis. Yeah. We could be completely wrong about this, but if you just look at the analysis in a nutshell, I think it's a great analysis. I think it's a great analysis as well. But, you know, that's where I say with Atlanta. And then, yeah, OC is, I don't even care about it. I really truly don't care about it. We're going to watch it. We're talking about it this week. So we're back to our OC recap. Don't worry for all you people still watching OC. It just, it really, the overproduction, Tamara forcing it week in and week out every second she's on the screen is intolerable. But we're back with crappy. Lake, and we're going to kind of run through the last two episodes a little bit, just touch on multiple parts. It's so delightful to have this little snack of a show. It really is. And we talk about it every week, but it's so good, and it's so easy to watch.
Starting point is 00:15:26 This is one of those shows that if there was three seasons out, I would probably play it on Netflix, just let it run. And you can check in for a little while. You can check out, and then you're not lost. Exactly. And look, it could be because obviously there are two mainstays. I think it's just, it's the perfect storm of everything. It's two people that everybody genuinely likes and enjoy it on screen while they were on Roney.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Now they're back. They're leaning so far into actually helping the town and having fun and not complaining about shit all the time. I can't imagine you throw two new people who have been on a show for a season. Say you take two new people from Roney, the new Rony. I don't know if they do as well here because you're going to get somebody like Jessel who's just going to complain the whole time. They're not complaining about anything. They're actually helping out.
Starting point is 00:16:07 They actually care about what's going on. and they're having so much fun. You're invested. We're invested in the town. We also don't really, like, we know enough about the two of them. We don't need to invest in their backstory or anything else that's going on. It's just a fun show to put on. Look, we give Bravo a lot of shit for production.
Starting point is 00:16:25 This is a moment where they deserve some credit because the casting was perfect. Yep. That setting is perfect. You know it, like you said, you know enough about these two that we don't need to waste time with, oh, where did they come from? What are they about? Or what have they been up to? Like, we don't even really.
Starting point is 00:16:39 care. No, there's no reason to dive into it. So you dive right into the town. And the fact that they're taking this on as simple life, but actually giving a shit, it makes it work. The whole thing works. You have this, it's charming in a certain way. You actually start to like a lot of these townspeople.
Starting point is 00:16:57 You know, Akash from the motel is hysterical. Yeah. I love that, dude. I love Craig who's out there. And I guess why I really like it is because you get the opinions of the townspeople when they get there. Yes, I like that first reactions, like, oh, God, like I got to work on. I got to go out here with these two ladies and try to build a park.
Starting point is 00:17:16 You shit and me, blah, blah, blah. Park gets built. And Craig says, you know what? They dress like that. They show up and they look like that. But they get their hands dirty. They get the job done. He got choked up talking about Luann and Sonia and him being able to give one last thing to
Starting point is 00:17:30 the town before he retires. Yeah. And he said that he grew up in that neighborhood. And he didn't really get to see anything good happen in that neighborhood. And now he sees this happen. and he had a lot of fun. He even said, I work so hard and I do all this and that and whatever. These women are running me into the grounds because they have more work ethic than I do.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Which is great. Which is awesome. And he did not think that when they first showed up. You see, the mayor even felt that kind of way. Everybody has all their reservations about these women showing up because they don't really know who they are. They don't know what to expect. It could be a complete shit show. And it's not because they're actually helping.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah. It's hilarious. It's fun. It's lighthearted. It's everything that you want in a show. especially in the summer, when it's sort of dead-ish. And we're going to talk mostly about this most recent episode. There's a couple of things from last week's episode that I would love to point out.
Starting point is 00:18:18 One, I'm super excited for the playground as well. Okay. I do not want to take anything away from the playground. That's a play set. It is a play set. That's a play set. That's not a playground. But if you think about it as a foundation, you've got the play set in there.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Maybe you throw a couple of things. more things in there. You're good to go. I fully agree with that. My problem is Luann and Sonia are talking about this single play set as though it's the greatest playground in the history of all playgrounds. It's an amazing thing. They got the playground. It is a foundation in which to build upon. Yep. That's a play set. It is. Second thing. Second thing. Did you notice, please tell me you noticed when they did the little, or sorry, not the cameo, the montage of the people playing
Starting point is 00:19:06 on the playground. Oh yeah. It was all men. And women. No, no, no. Not any kids. That, mm-mm. That bothered me. So there's one clip, and I was like, wait a minute, it's a kid sliding down a little twirly slide. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:18 There's wood chips all around them. There is no open-faced twirly slide on that play set. There are no wood chips. They just got a clip of a kid sliding down a random slide from a random park. No what? And plugged it in. That did. It stood out to me only because, as I was watching it, I was thinking, why are there only a
Starting point is 00:19:38 adults here on this play set it doesn't make any sense i don't see any children running around isn't this for kids why are all these parents and weird adults just jumping all over this thing and then that popped up and instead of probably honing it on what you honed it on i thought oh well there's a kid all right i guess i'll leave that alone no i got i was like wait that's i got stuck on the woodchips i was like hold on i rewound it twice just to make sure i was like yeah that's that's just a random kid on a random slide that's so funny they probably realized the same thing it was so good but let's talk about this week's episode we get a hot tub at the hotel do you go in hotel hot tubs god no i don't either no i don't either i don't go in nice hotel hot tubs i would definitely
Starting point is 00:20:16 not and look i've stayed in a lot of motels i don't have anything negative to say about a motel no i'm not getting in a motel hot tub no yeah you're not happening yeah no i just i don't know i'm even hesitant to get into like a big one that's in my room like with the jets and everything but that's just you know you make it yourself hot tub oh in the hotel room B-Y-O hot tub? B-Y-O-B. Bring your own bubbles, baby. You're a bubbles, baby.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah, no, I'm even hesitant to get into that and not obviously watching so when you get into that tub while everybody else is working. I don't know. It's funny. It's very funny, but I would never do it. Oh, God, no.
Starting point is 00:20:49 God, no, I would not get into that hot tub. Well, like, also, I think tubs, like random people sitting there and stew in their own filth, and then you're going to go do that. They don't wash those tubs. They're not bleaching the tub every time people leave. God, no. I mean, Akash even said
Starting point is 00:21:03 that they've never had any upgrade in, what, 47 years or something? Since they opened the hotel. Yeah. So, do you think they're going to clean that thing? And that was actually the owner of whatever hot tub company dropped that thing off. He came over and said, well, yeah, what kind of maintenance or whatever are you going to have to do? Like, is this thing going to break down?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Is it going to get gross? And the owner said, well, no, as long as you clean it, he's not going to clean it that often, if ever. I also think that they're only going to redo those two rooms. I do not think they're going to redo that. They said that. They did say that. They're going to turn it into like the Sonia and Luann suite. So, like, one's the she
Starting point is 00:21:34 sweet. That's Luann's. And then Sonia, I don't know what's going to be called, but the plaque is going to say Sonia fucked here. Yes. Instead of Sonia was here. Yes. Yes, it is. The other part I want to talk about the dog shelter. We're going to go through everything they got done. They got the fences put in there so the dogs can go outside and run around. All of these things are kind of minor and, you know, they're stuff that Sony and Luann can literally break out their checkbook and change things. What's amazing to see is that's true of anybody with money. in a situation where they can, like, it's so easy for you to help.
Starting point is 00:22:08 You have the funds to do so. Break up the checkbook and just do it. These two continuously do that for this town. It's really refreshing to see. They don't really even hesitate. It's like, oh, they need this, write a check. Oh, they need this, write a check. They try to wheel and deal where they can,
Starting point is 00:22:23 but when push comes to shove, they just pay for shit. Yeah, and they're not scheduling a boxing match with Elon Musk. It's only going to benefit themselves. Mark Zuckerberg just catches. No, I understand, but, yeah, we're going to have to do that. talking about the people that have money that don't do anything absolutely but it's just nice to see them actually give a fuck about this town
Starting point is 00:22:40 and the only other thing that we really need to talk about is Courtney Cox which I never thought I'd be saying you know the Courtney Cox of Crappy Lake he's working on a song with these lovely ladies and I just think that it's it's funny to watch their process Luan takes this shit so
Starting point is 00:22:58 seriously part of me respects that I know that she does you know she's coming to Philly in September she's doing like the Was it Cabaret? Count's Cabaret. From what I've heard, ticket sales are really good at these things. A lot of people go.
Starting point is 00:23:11 A lot of people really enjoy them. It's a variety show. I appreciate taking your work seriously. This is a variety show in Benton to highlight this town's people, the town's folk. It's not going to be America's got talent. You can't treat it as such.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And she's standing with the mic and her wig on and she's yelling demands at these poor children who are just trying to get out there and perform who do not understand what she's saying. Yeah. Go wait in the wings. And she's like, what? What?
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah, no, no. She actually said that second to try to get through further to that child. Yeah. Yeah. No. She actually said, don't come on stage until the music starts and the kids just staring at her. And then she said, go wait in the wings, like as if that's going to break through. That's going to make it easier.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Oh, the wings. Yeah. Where are the wings? Stage things. Stay on track. Look at me. No, but it's funny because you do, even in that moment, like, yes, I know that she's trying to direct people that have absolutely no idea what she's talking about.
Starting point is 00:24:03 and she's taking it too seriously but in the same time you get the dynamic between her and Sonia and Sony's just sitting there stuffing her face with whatever's going on laughing at her and calling her bitch There are subscriptions for everything these days
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Starting point is 00:25:52 Yes, I agree. I think mainly because now we're starting to get to know the women on a deeper level. We're starting to see how they operate, how they operate with one another. and the drama is starting to happen, but it does seem organic. It does not seem forced. We're getting some wild cards as far as who's stirring the shit. Never thought we'd see Jenna at the helm, which is exciting for me.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I love that the Bravo producers held her to it. I do. For her to say, oh, yeah, I didn't really want to stir any shit. Then why'd just say it, Jenna? Plain, why'd you say it and leave that in there? And she just goes, I don't know. I just, you know, old woman, brand.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Like, no, you said it for a reason in there, maybe subconsciously. But you did say it. So we need to hold you accountable. And I like that, yes, I know Jen is like a fan favorite. But like you said, like we got a little bit of everything in this. And I like the direction they're going in. You know why I think I like it more so than the other show, especially like, let's talk about in comparison to Dubai.
Starting point is 00:26:47 And I know that Roney is technically a continuation of the old Roney, but it's a new franchise, right? Why I like it is all these women didn't know each other. And a lot of people think that some of the big fallouts of these shows is that you put casts together that don't have a back. These women don't all have a background, but they genuinely seem to enjoy hanging out together, even though they don't all necessarily like each other. They don't all fuck with each other. But when they go out, even when there's drama, they have fun. Yeah. I think the reason that I like it is it's something that, and if you want to juxtapose it to Dubai, you can. Bravo has been leaning into, as we talk about all the time, the inorganic bullshit and just trying to stir things up that really nobody cares about it anymore. this show, they're kind of letting them build on their own. Rather than pushing them in a direction, finding something that they can all kind of get mad about and try
Starting point is 00:27:38 to run with that, they're letting them build and I think this is the best way to build because one, we're seeing them have fun. Two, this episode in particular, you get, which I think is super important for people to even see on TV, which we do not get in most, I mean, yeah, we get some real moments, but between the Uber
Starting point is 00:27:54 conversation with her manager or her mentor, if you will, and what Bryn was talking about later in the episode, They're real moments where these people are actually talking about, like, their actual mental health, which I think is super important to see on reality shows. Like, yes, it's not all about how much money these women have, how much they spend, how cool is their house. Do they have cars? Do they dress well?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Do they wear cool shoes? Like, yeah, that's a part of it. I can enjoy that. We can enjoy that. Yes, it's about drama. Yes, it's about all this and that and whatever. But when you break it down to that, to see something like that on TV, like, yeah, there's a ton of people out there that are watching these shows that are watching somebody break down with people that, like you said,
Starting point is 00:28:31 that they don't really know that well with Brin in this whole group. It's important to watch somebody talk about how they're feeling because it normalizes those things because those type of people try to maybe shelter it and keep it inward so that they don't dump all their shit on someone else because they feel like that's not the right way to go. This can open up a lot of different channels.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And yeah, there's going to be people out there that don't like it because they only want to care about what kind of clothes this person's wearing. But I think this is more important for reality TV because it actually speaks to a lot of. us on a deeper level. And especially early in a show, we get to know these women on that deeper level. And then we can figure out how we want to move forward as a fan. It's well said. Do you think that it's a generational thing? And I mean this, like, let's think about how. I don't think it's solely Bravo. I think it's a generational thing. I think these women are a little bit younger.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I think that they understand maybe their mental or their emotional intelligence rather is a lot higher than it has been in the past. But that's also not to blame the older generations because they weren't allowed to have emotional. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, we were brought up in a time, especially in the past, shit, 10 years or so, I would say. It's been much more mainstream to be vulnerable, to be open, to discuss things, especially for men.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Like, it's starting to be less of a stigma to open yourself up, allow yourself to be emotional. And I think that as we're seeing some housewives as part of our generation and more of this age group, you're going to see more of it. We saw it with Martha's Vineyard. Yeah. Right? They had a lot more.
Starting point is 00:29:59 conversations about emotions and how people were feeling and being being receptive to those feelings. And I think that in order to connect with the new audience, and some people might say, oh, snowflakes and all those stupid fucking words that people use when they can't like look inward and just tell someone, yeah, I'm not feeling great today. But I do think it's an important thing. It's an important distinction to carry these new shows forward because that's how we view the world now. And we want to see that reciprocated in the cast members.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I don't want to see ice-cold people being ice-cold to each other all the time. It wears out. It wears out. It's just not fun to watch. And at the end of the day, you need to figure out how to get more into this generation. This is how you do it. I think so. I don't care if people are going to bitch about it all the time online.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And look, I didn't see anybody bitching, but I, you know, there's always somebody bitching. There's always somebody. But let's dive right in. So we're in the morning after. And Bryn and Aaron seem good. They slept in the same bed together. and I think that Aaron kind of says it perfectly. I think Brin is the type.
Starting point is 00:30:59 It's like it's hard to stay mad at her. I think so, too. She just brings that energy where, yeah, you fucked up, but you're such a good time. And you definitely didn't mean it to be mean. You're just you, you're Bryn. So like we're moving past that. And we finally get Shukha for breakfast, which is amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And I'm so excited they get to eat the Shukha. The Shukh, the Shukha looks amazing. Jessel said it's a top. She gets a compliment from Jessel. I know. That's how you know it's good. Shukh, but she still cannot avoid any shade as Sy's like, I can't eat this, was a soggy eggs in red tomato
Starting point is 00:31:32 sauce, like what the fuck? That's exactly what it is. Not only that, but coupling that comment from Sai about the food that Aaron made for everybody with her saying that she wasn't fed all weekend. I know. Like, we can't just get everybody to be happy. No. Like, Jessel's finally okay. She's probably not going to complain about anything for at least a couple of weeks because now she had that discussion with her husband, which we'll get to. Now you've got sigh bitching about this. It's like, look, I get it. I do think that maybe Aaron maybe overlooked a couple of things as far as providing food for everybody there, because if you're not going to do that, people are going to be hungry, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:32:06 But she doesn't deserve that shit. No, but what it tells me, and this is why Aaron has continued to move up a little bit, she's not my favorite. But I like that she can take a punch. Yeah. Like it does not face her. And these women have been really rude overall to her and her house. and her caviar and her shakshuka and food in general has been an issue this weekend that would send so many housewives over the top think about god forbid ultimate girl's trip blue stone manor imagine one woman complaining about any of the meals that would have been world derinda would have shut the place down and kicked them all out of the house this is nice because aaron's like this is fucking annoying she's like relating to us the viewer because we're like this is annoying stop complaining she's saying the same thing so it's a connection i like that don't love her, but I like that.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I love that Uba has her own hot sauce line. Yeah, that looks awesome. We're going to have to get some Uba hot sauce. Without a doubt. I would love to put this out there. You know what I'm saying? Put that out there in the universe, verbally. We'll probably end up just buying it ourselves.
Starting point is 00:33:09 It's an Oprah favorite thing. That's a big deal. Uba's awesome. Yeah, Uba is incredible. She actually, she impresses me every week, honestly. I mean, like, Chanel, and we keep comparing her to Chanel because they're cousins, but Chanel was so polarizing, but she didn't really have, maybe she did one or two, have like a weaker moment to see Uba go from having that much
Starting point is 00:33:33 fun, she's got her own hot sauce, and then she has that moment with her mentor later. She's well-rounded. She's more relatable. Yes, I think that's true. She seems more, whereas Chanel Ion seems like she was doing the most for the camera, it was successful. Yes. She was very successful.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I love Chanel Ion. I'm not, this is no knock on her, but the route that she's, she took and her approach to being a housewife was big, glamorous all the time. I don't think that's even her fault. I think that's what they wanted from Dubai. Totally. I think that that's, again, production pushing. But with Uber, you get that part of it, but you also get the humanity of it.
Starting point is 00:34:07 You get like what she's going through. You just get to connect with her on a deeper level. And again, I think that we can fault production for that. I think that if you bring eye on to New York, as we said a long time ago, you might get that out of her. So I'm still hoping we get an uba ion super team. But anyway, as Shooter said, we get to dive into more personal things this episode. And the first thing we're going to talk about is Bryn. And we're going over Thanksgiving plans for everybody.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And Bryn talks about how she has a difficult time with the holidays because of her upbringing. And we learned that she was legally adopted by her grandmother, her mom's mom, because her parents really weren't in the picture. She also discloses that she is biracial. She grew up, I believe her dad was black and her mom was white. And grew up in Indiana where it's really a fascinating backstory, honestly. And she grew up with a white grandmother who was her legal guardian who didn't know how to do her hair. It's a very different process doing a black child's hair versus a white child. And luckily, they were talking to somebody and they're like, oh, you just to send them to my salon.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And this is such a cool backstory moment. because Brin's talking about how she would go to the black hair salon every week on Saturday. And she would sit there. And just as most barbershops, hair salons in general, when you sit there, you shoot the shit. You know the other people in there, like the barbershop that I go to or went to for the longest time before everybody started quitting. It was pandemic related. And then that place went down hill. But no one works there anymore.
Starting point is 00:35:39 What happened that guy? I genuinely don't know. Oh, the one guy? Oh, that guy got, yeah, he's in legal trouble. He Venmo, this man. Got into some shit. I'm not going to get into the full story, but something happened at the shop.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And another one of our buddies got his haircut there. This man reached out to our friend on Venmo, Venmo, and messaged him and said, everything you heard about me is bullshit. If you want me to make a house call and come cut your hair like I'm doing house calls now, this man, what he did, you should not be making house calls to anybody.
Starting point is 00:36:12 He's a scumbag. But that's, yeah, that's neither here nor that. The point being to hear about how she was able to connect. with her heritage and black culture in general through going to the salon was really interesting to see that side of Bryn. And we know that we're going to be getting these introductions and getting further into these women. I think so far they've done everything organically, honestly.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And I thought that this was probably the best one yet. And obviously there's still more. But we raved about how Jenna's backstory, the way that she presented it, where she started from the bottom and got all the way to the top of J. Crew, you hear Brins. And it's heartbreaking, but it's fascinating. It's crazy and you can only cheer for her at the end and this is the thing like, yes, we are spending the first couple episodes because this is what we do, finding people that we don't really like and we don't really care for the way that they talk to each other and this and that and whatever. But overall, I don't dislike, like vehemently dislike anybody on the show. No.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I'm actually still rooting for all of them and it would be a really weird dynamic if by the end of the season we're still sitting here like, wow, I actually still like all of these. with him. Yeah. It would be very new for Bravo, honestly, because there's always one person and you're like, nah, no, she sucks. But my whole thing is what you're saying. Like, yeah, I can see this being a show in which maybe I'm not going to be everyone's favorite or everyone's not going to be my favorite. But if I can at least be like, oh, yeah, they're all good for the show. I understand it. Like, that would be a huge W. Yes. But let's keep going. And that takes us right into Aaron. We finally get her backstory a little bit, which was also interesting. And she doesn't have the same upbringing at all.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Like she was born into a real estate family. This family, we're talking. They're selling buildings in New York City. They're selling a whole building. She's like, I sold my first building when I was like 22 years old or some shit. Yeah. Like, okay, so we're talking like, fuck it. She's like, I was, I was coloring in books when my mom was showing apartments and
Starting point is 00:38:04 full buildings to Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. Yeah, they're like pretty much the realtors to the stars, more or less. And she opened up Home Girl Designs, which is in my, you know, stupid brain, a genius idea. It's like, yeah, you're selling buildings, and then you offer to design the building. Yep. That's a two-fer. Double-dipers-one, baby.
Starting point is 00:38:24 You love it, double-dip. We do. So I enjoy getting Aaron's backstory. I'm glad that it was, there's no vagueness here. It's not, and we were even saying that we were skeptical about Aaron that, oh, I think we're going to get one of those situations where we don't get the whole backstory. How'd you make your money? Right.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Got it. This is how she made her money. It all tracks. That makes sense. Yeah, you would have that lavish lifestyle if your parents were that. that rich you're selling buildings i get it let's move on and also not every backstory has to be super heavy no it can some can just be pretty straightforward like be my parents were realtors they sold buildings in new york to celebrities and i do the same thing now and that's why i'm fucking loaded
Starting point is 00:39:00 yep cool that's all we need we just need to know why and as if the emotions aren't high enough then we get to dive into uba a little bit and uba's sitting with kathleen who's a mentor and a friend and she works with uba she's a manager in some respect and we start talking about uba hot, which is her hot sauce line. And she's trying to take this to the next level. She's talking about investors, potentially. She needs some capital. We all do. We all need a little capital. We all need a little capital to get this baby off the ground. But she asked Kathleen, why is it so hard for me to receive? And it took me a minute to understand what she was saying. Like, receive what? And I think it's help. Receive help, whether it's financial help or just help in
Starting point is 00:39:39 general. She talks about how growing up with her family, it was a very, very much like a community vibe. And I thought that Kathleen had an interesting response because while Kathleen is giving her a shoulder to cry on, Kathleen hammers at home how alone Uber is and her family's not there. I couldn't get away from that. I know she's being nice, but she keeps saying over and over again, you don't have anybody here. Your family's not here. They are not here. I took it a little differently. I don't think that she was necessarily hammering at home. I thought that she was allowing. I don't think it was intentional. Oh, no, not at all. But I think what she was doing is allowing Uber to feel the way that she felt because she could tell that UBA was,
Starting point is 00:40:16 Ouba started it off by saying, you know, my mom's not here and I would lean on my mom for this and that and whatever. I think that what she was trying to do is say, look, like, you've gotten far on your own. Your family's not here with you anymore and you've already gotten this far. You can keep going. And then Uba was even talking in a way, which I really appreciated the way Kathleen went about it because Kathleen treading that line of being sort of like a business
Starting point is 00:40:39 consultant while also being a really good friend, like you said, being a shoulder to cry on while also doing something else. She was still pushing all of the different linguistics, if you will, about what Uva was saying. She's talking about how she needs capital. She's saying that she needs to sell off equity. And Kathleen tried to change it a little bit and say, no, you need to present them with the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:40:58 This thing is huge. You built this yourself. And it's gotten so big. You're not really asking for help. You're offering someone else an opportunity to really take it to the next level. So I did appreciate the way that she was giving that insight. And I feel like, at least for me,
Starting point is 00:41:12 that was like comforting insight. No, I think the whole scene overall was comforting. Yeah, I'm not knocking, Kathleen. I'm saying it could have done with one or two less. Yeah, you're really alone. She just kept saying, and I was like, all right, we get it. She's alone. She's crying.
Starting point is 00:41:27 She's alone. You got your point across. I'm not saying that it was vindictive in nature. I'm saying it, I just think she said it too many times. Too many times. Like one or two less. And in the next scene, we get sigh, and this is when she's planning Brin's giving to try to give back to Bryn.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And this is where sighs a little bit of an enigma to me. And I think in a good way, because she's tough. And I think she wants to appear as tough and come off that way. I do think that's an intentional wall of hers, if you will. But she's got a big heart in there. She does care because she's sitting there and she's talking about Bryn and how much she feels bad for Bryn and that relates to Bryn and wants to put this friend's giving on to give her something to celebrate for the holidays.
Starting point is 00:42:10 So I think behind that tough exterior, Sae's got a big old heart. I think she does for her friends. For her friends. So I think she rides or die. That's important because we already know that Brin and Sire are pretty close as it is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And while, yes, she does have a big heart for Brin, as she should, because they're friends, she's not really opening up to the other women in the group as much, mainly Erin. So we'll see how that works. We'll see how the dynamic goes. If she starts to become a little closer to the other women and then we see her open up a little bit more,
Starting point is 00:42:38 then yes, I feel like that's fully okay. but we got to see where this goes from here but it was nice to see because it is a good change up the episode starts with sigh ripping on Aaron and even later ripping on Aaron for not having any food and it was getting annoying but to see her reach out and do this nice thing for Brin who we know is going to be lonely around the holidays
Starting point is 00:42:57 she wants to go somewhere with a friend do whatever she talked about how when she talked about how she'll hit up an X to go do something because she has nobody else to do it with she's going to London with her ex exactly like there's a lot of things going on there. And that's, I mean, look, it is a, it's a cry for help. That's pretty much what that is. Like, yeah, I'm going to go to London with my, uh, my ex-fiance. Oh, see, I don't think it's nobody else to go
Starting point is 00:43:20 with. I think it's, I think that she is lost in trying to find something. I don't think she's necessarily like, oh my God, everybody help me. I think that be a conscience or like a conscious. I do that every time. It might not be a conscious. I think I have a speech impediment. It might not be a conscious cry for help. Anyway, I didn't think that it was. an active cry for help, if you will. Okay. But I do think that it was in a way, and if one of my friends was saying that, like, oh, yeah, I'm going to go to London with my ex because I have nobody else to go with, or I'm going
Starting point is 00:43:51 to do this with my ex because it's around the holiday and my family's not here and I don't really talk to them or anything anymore. That's a cry for help. Okay. I'm sorry. All right, fair. But anyway, in this scene, I do want to highlight, obviously Brins on FaceTime, but we get to hear from Sy's husband, David.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And I always like a checking with the husbands. we got a whole new list of husbands, so we got to get to know these gentlemen. I like David because they're talking about the Jessel thing. And Sye's asking Bryn, what do you think about the line of questioning? And Bryn says, I thought it was a little inappropriate as far as asking her, you know, you guys should just go fuck or like whatever. It's not that simple. It's not that cut and dry.
Starting point is 00:44:29 There's a lot that goes into it. They asked David what he thinks about it. And David says the same thing. David's like, we don't really know. And it's not my place to speak on. She had two kids. Like, I'm sure she's feeling insecure. We've got to give her some space.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I'm like, David, welcome to the party. Smart guy. I also thought it was wildly funny that Brin was not there for the original discussion about how Jessel needs to just have sex and just jump right on that pogo stick if you will. I think they may have said that. I don't even know if it will, but it works. I thought that if Brin were there that night, that she would have doubled, triple, quadrupled down. Not knowing Brin that well, to hear her say, yeah, I didn't really think that that was like appropriate.
Starting point is 00:45:07 maybe just kind of like give her a little bit of space and figure it out. It was like, the fuck, Brit? You were not who I thought you were. We, all of these women have layers. It's like onions. They should change the apples to onions because Roney's got layers. We should market for Bravo, honestly. Moving on from that, I want to remind you of something, okay?
Starting point is 00:45:31 I don't like being reminded of it. I want to remind you of something because after the first episode, I called attention to something. I said, I don't care for the way that Jessel speaks to her husband. I don't like the little put-downs. I don't like the jabs. I don't like it. I think it's fucking mean. I've continued to see jabs from Jessel towards everybody around her.
Starting point is 00:45:50 We get a scene with Jessel and Pavett, and they're discussing preschools, right? She's talking about sending these kids to a preschool that is, what was it, $30,000 or $40,000? Montessori School. When she breaks down the reasons behind sending these children to this school, I was floored. I could not believe you would, like, offer this information willingly because it makes you sound so stuck up.
Starting point is 00:46:16 She's like, it's about networking. Who goes there? They had a great charcutory board at the week. That one made me laugh. What the fuck? Now, these kids are three years old. They're going to preschool. Her husband says it perfectly.
Starting point is 00:46:28 They're going, you're paying 60K for these kids to go rake leaves, like eat lunch and make a nap. Take a nap. Yep. Like, you fucking kidding? While I, for preschool, I do have an issue with that. Yeah, I mean, if they're going to, like, grade school, or Catholic school, going to like grade school, high school college, like, sure, yeah, connection.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Tell me you're from Philly without telling me you from Philly. Seriously. Yeah, I know. But, yeah, if they're going to middle school, high school, college, you want to start talking about networking. I think that's fine because that is actually important. People who you know is important. But she's not talking about the children networking.
Starting point is 00:47:02 No, no, she's definitely not talking about. The first thing out of her mouth, as you said, was they had wine and shirt, cootery boards for all of the parents. Okay. Why is that important for your preschool? It's not at all. And Pavit is being fairly reasonable. I think that Jessel just acknowledges how much money this place is
Starting point is 00:47:19 and then immediately says, well, this is going to be great. But then calls Pavit cheap when he's like, I'm not, that's fucked up. He also didn't say, which I thought he was going to say, we should explore public schools. He said we need to explore other options. Which doesn't mean that he's not going to pay for private school for a preschool. He just maybe doesn't want to pay 60k
Starting point is 00:47:35 a year for a private preschool and that's okay that's 100% reasonable but to not hear him out and just call him cheap because he wants to send your kid to a public school it's disrespectful to every parent watching that has a child in public school and disrespectful to have it and this is what I was talking about in episode one but when she's talking about her confrontation in the Hamptons and when shit popped off with Jenna and the lingerie and we watched it like at no point were you joking you're being dead serious the night of you got caught up in it and like look shit happens. But we finally get from Pavett, he says, your tone of voice sometimes rubs people the wrong way. I mean, there's two ways that this one. I think that it's a conversation
Starting point is 00:48:15 that needed to happen overall. I don't know how I feel about it being on live TV. That's one thing that's like, oh, yeah, maybe if Jessel's point was, you're going to talk to me about this now. Maybe behind closed doors they do this, you're going to talk to me about this now when the cameras are rolling, like, come on. But it's reality TV. So this is where reality TV comes right back in. I thought it was a good conversation. Hopefully Jessel takes it not as an insult, not as her husband taking a dig at her, and she takes it constructively. We don't know if that's going to happen because we didn't get a whole lot more from Jessel, but I do think that there's going to be more happening with Jessel because we do see
Starting point is 00:48:53 towards the end at the dinner party, Aaron, obviously, after Jenna spills the beans, lets in on how Jessel's calling them cackling hags. Yes. So there's going to be something, at some point this is going to come to a head. Hopefully, for the sake of liking all of these women at the end of the year, which is what we're rooting for. It's not going to happen. Takes it in stride and apologizes and says, I was feeling very uncomfortable that weekend. I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. Instead of just dancing around and making excuses and then saying, well, I apologize. You didn't. That's what's going to happen. I know it's going to happen. But you know what? This takes us to the main event. And
Starting point is 00:49:26 before we get there, we have a little moment. And this is where Aaron takes two steps forward, three steps back for me. She's at her apartment with Jenna and she's like running around making sure her apartment's in order because she wants it to look good for Jenna because she's so judgy. But this is the part that irked me. She breaks out a boob mug, right? She's like, oh, my mom used this in the 80s. Jenna quickly points out like, that's a creamer cup. Aaron bought this shit a week ago. And then it was like, oh my God, Jenna would love this. I'm going to tell it it was my mom. That's what you think? One thousand percent. Because you wouldn't say, that this is a mug, has your mom ever
Starting point is 00:50:05 used this mug in front of you? Because it wouldn't work as a mug, as Jenna points out, it would have spilled out of the nipple because it's a... That's a really good point. So I think that this was a late purchase by Aaron. Next level thinking by you. Well, I'm also just... As an Aaron Hater? I'm really not. I'm not. My thing is, I think that she... I'm just trying to see... It's my Diana Jenkins
Starting point is 00:50:23 theory. I think that she is pulling Elisa Rina with Diana Jenkins where this is like, oh wow, she has real notoriety. She walks in the room. People know who the fuck Jenna Lynde is. I'm going to crawl up her butt so I can be her best friend. She's already talked about how she's so close with her, but she's not.
Starting point is 00:50:37 She's clearly not. It's an interesting theory. That's my theory. Noted Aaron Hayters. Okay, here we go. But that's when we start to get the tea. And we get the quick cut of Jessel and Jenna. They're shopping together and they seem to have squashed everything.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Jessel's big issue is that Jenna didn't take the time to talk to her on the side about her having a problem. Now, where I do believe that that is usually the best way to go out, about things. If you disrespect her in front of the entire group, you deserve to then be dragged in front of the entire group. That's how I always feel. If you're going to present it in front of an audience, you need to take your beating in front of the audience. I agree. And also it just clicked right now. I do believe that Jenna did that on purpose by telling Aaron. Oh yeah, absolutely. Because she feels scorned by Jessel not liking the lingerie. 100%. That's what I'm saying. Jenna Lyon is a little bit sneakier than we thought. One of the good things we get from this
Starting point is 00:51:33 Jessel and Pavitt, they're discussing their sex life, so maybe they went about it a little uncouth, maybe they were a little strong-worded, it works. They are able to have a conversation. They are talking about a staycation, but I called it a bangcation. Bankation works, too. I like that. Because they're going to go to a hotel for the weekend in New York, take care of business, get back on track. I don't care how you feel about Jessel.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I don't like Jessel, but I'm happy that these two could, like, come to terms on this one, because I'm sure it's constantly hanging over their head. It's like the elephant in the room that I'm sure they're not talking about or having sex with. So go fuck that elephant. But, uh, oh my God. We get to Bryn's giving. There's no elephants there.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Of course, Bryn hits on the chef. The chef is married. Hits on the bartender. Bartender's married. Everybody else arrives. And Aaron and Cy are still not like totally cool. No,
Starting point is 00:52:29 they're still not totally cool. And I think that it's, we're just kind of seeing right now Aaron go through pretty much every other person in the group that she has issues with. Yeah, not one. And it's like, all right, yeah, we squashed that one, we're good. The whole Bryn thing came to an end.
Starting point is 00:52:42 She slept in the same bed with me. We had a lot of fun in the morning. She's good. Great. Sy starts complaining about the food. All right, now I've got issues with Sai. Yep. It just seems to keep popping up.
Starting point is 00:52:50 And I don't know who's necessarily at fault. I don't know if there's a target on Aaron's back right now. I think this is going to be Aaron's role because I think, one, she rolls with it quickly. But two, I think that she, likes it and I think she probably does I do get that idea that she does take some enjoyment out of this kind of being the center of attention and is that what it is because here's maybe here's what like perked my ears up it was the scene between and they're all at brinsgiving and jessel goes up to
Starting point is 00:53:19 Aaron and she's asking about the service for her grandmother that's not a crazy thing to talk about I thought it was weird like I think that the way that jessel like worded everything and it was an awkward interaction, but I do think that at the heart of it, Jessa was doing her best to be compassionate in this moment. Yeah, I don't think that Aaron was annoyed that she did that. The way that the aftermath of it, she was acting as though that's what I rewound it and rewatched it because I was confused about Aaron's reaction. I was like, was she like happy that she said that. She seems to be more leaning towards that's weird for her to like bring that up right now. I don't know. That's the vibe I got from Aaron there. I got the vibe that she was
Starting point is 00:53:57 kind of heartbroken and didn't really want to talk about it and also said that she didn't want to bring the night down with her sad news. I don't know. I got a weird vibe from Aaron. No to Aaron Hader. Steal Russell. I got it again. I think that I'm right though. You might be right. I think that the way that Aaron operates is she has a bone to pick with Jessel about the whole cackling hags thing. She has that in her mind. She's going to bring it up later in the evening.
Starting point is 00:54:20 We had a 2B continued at the end of the end of the end. So it's going to pop back up towards the end and we're going to have to fucking talk about it. I think that anything that Jessel does between now and when that conversation happens will not derail her, and she's kind of getting herself back into form. Like, I got to bring this up. I got to bring this up. No matter what happens, Jessel could actually apologize for the cackling
Starting point is 00:54:37 hacking thing now. And Aaron's still going to turn it into a full discussion. She's already prepared. She's mentally prepared. Yes. So my question to you is, if you're having people over for a really nice dinner party, a nice Thanksgiving dinner party, are you going to make them take their fucking shoes off like that? No, absolutely not. Especially women. And like, look, I mean, even
Starting point is 00:54:52 guys have nice shoes. And I know you're a big shoe guy. Yeah. But women, And sometimes shoes can take, sometimes shoes can bring an entire outfit together. You're going to make them take it off at the door? Your shoes are part of the outfit. And not offer some slippers or something? Where's the house slippers, man? Where are the house slippers?
Starting point is 00:55:08 House slippers for everybody. Everyone needs a house slippers. Erin got everybody a robe for the hamptons. You need house slippers for this. If you don't have house slippers for everybody, you cannot make them take off their shoes. If you do, then you can. I think that's a good rule. I'm going to start putting that rule in place as you wear your hockas on my area rug.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Hoka. Who gives a shit? That's what I always said. Hey, no. This is finally where the Hags comment comes out. And watching Uba tried to decipher what cackling hags means was a highlight of the year for me on Bravo because she thinks that they're talking about old saggy balls. And I don't know how you get there from cackling hags. She gets to witches too, which is even better. I know. Somehow that works. And you go down this weird path and it's like, oh, witches. What? No. How'd we get here? Balls? Okay, on board.
Starting point is 00:55:58 But when everything kind of settles down, we get to the Jenna Lyons confessional. And this is where I was like, Jenna plays the game way more than I thought she would. And she blames old lady brain for stirring the pot. Do we truly believe that the ex-president of J. Crew, the Met Gallagower, the H. HBIC, who seems to have every single thing in order, gets old lady brain and forgets that she's stirring the shit? I have a different take on it. I think that she's, I'm not throwing this around lightly, but.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Oh, God. No. No, I think that she is, I wouldn't go as far as to say socially inept, but I will say socially awkward. I think that what she's doing is really just trying to communicate to these. women on a different level and try to share information, and she truly doesn't know that she's starting the pot. I think that she's just talking about things that are fresh in her head. Maybe she's got work on the mind 98% of the time. Two percent is the most recent conversation I had with somebody else in this group. It was with Jessel. She talked about cackling hags. Now I'm talking
Starting point is 00:57:12 to Aaron. What information do I have to tell Aaron? Well, I just talked to Jessel and this is what she said. I think that's kind of where we're getting. I think that she is not, it's not even a behavior. It's just she doesn't know what the hell she's doing. I don't like your theory. Because noted Jenna lover, Steele Russell. I like my theory better. I think you are more than likely correct. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:57:35 We'll find out. But my theory makes me like her better. So I'm going to go with my theory. Yeah. We end the episode. He's playing favorites already. Episode four. Welcome to Steele.
Starting point is 00:57:47 But the episode ends with getting more into Brin's backstory. And this is when it starts to take a tough return. And she discusses how her mom was a teen. They grew up in Section 8 housing, how they couldn't even afford diapers at times. And it's just I hope that we get to see and hear this story only in a respectful way. I hope it's only Bryn telling this story. I hope we don't get anybody chiming in from the outside because I am curious to hear the rest of it. I want to hear how she got to where she is.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I think that this needs to be done with the utmost respect as with all of these women. If they're going to dive into some of these harder to talk about things, let's do it with some compassion and just be respectful. Please, please, please do not
Starting point is 00:58:36 try to just one her up or try to get to the same level. No, please don't. I hate when people do that in any capacity. This is probably the worst capacity. So anyone else who might have a heartbreaking backstory to talk about, save it for another day. Yeah, we're not.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Unless it's a kumbaya thing and you want to make Brin feel better, one-on-one? It's Brin's giving. It's one thing. It's Brin's giving. Just leave it there. Let Bryn have it because, one, we are connecting with it, and two, you know, somebody's going to want up her.
Starting point is 00:59:05 You know somebody is. I know somebody is. Bummer, dude. I know who it is. I do, too. I'm not going to say it. That's a prediction I don't want to make, but that takes us to the question portion of the show, and we got quite a few this evening, so let's dive right down.
Starting point is 00:59:21 You know what I mean? Meow Oh, fuck, you remember Speed Racer? Oh my God, yeah. Underrated movie. Up first from SDMWVU, I'm assuming you went to West Virginia University. Is Bryn too good for Shep? absolutely are you doing we were going to get one of those questions we got multiple
Starting point is 00:59:54 it's not no she needs to stay far away from that man shep is the scum of the earth he is dog shit on the bottom of my shoe and i could give a fuck if he hears this i didn't like when she was talking about it she said yeah he slipped into my dms we talk about dogs and philosophy two things that we like fucking shepp does not like philosophy no shepp i do not Shepp reads philosophy books and then recycles it out of his stupid mouth to sound intriguing and that as though he has lived, he has zero life experience, zero philosophical background. He's a big fucking man baby. Fuck, Shep.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I hate Shep. You're going to end up feeling bad for Shep halfway through Southern Shore. No shot. Yes, you are. No shot. Okay. Why? All right.
Starting point is 01:00:40 We'll see. Ew. We'll see. Smugness of that. We'll see. You're going to feel bad for him. No, I'm not. No shot.
Starting point is 01:00:47 From not Courtney stage, do we think Jessel has any self-awareness or she just rude on purpose? Oh, interesting. I think she has no self-awareness. I think she has so enough awareness. But she also has no self-awareness. I don't think that she's going out of her way to intentionally be rude. I think that she has zero tact. I just don't think, I don't get from her that she's just an inherently mean person.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And I would be the first one to say that because she's been nothing but mean. and I've pointed out immediately. I didn't like how she talked to her husband. She doesn't strike me as like an evil person. No, I get the vibe from her, and it's hard to say with women on these shows because we never really get to see a whole lot of their personal lives as far as, like, friends go.
Starting point is 01:01:29 I get the vibe from her that she doesn't really have friends. Kind of like how Jenna. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like Jenna doesn't have girlfriends. She's never been on a girl trip, like blah, blah, whatever. I would say Jessel's probably the same just based off of that. Yeah, that's actually a really good point. I like that.
Starting point is 01:01:41 from chapis 0907 wow this is a doozy why do you hate jack so much i feel that he has grown since the beginning of vanderpump rules there's no way get out of here what are you talking about because he hasn't been on tv so all you've seen as his highlight reel on instagram and twitter he has not grown at all he saw an opportunity with scandival to get his name back out there and get any kind of notoriety and weasel his way back on a television. This guy was irrelevant. He was over under one season until he cheats on Brittany. Under.
Starting point is 01:02:16 That's my whole point. Like, if this man was actually a good dude now and actually grew, he wouldn't go back on this fucking show and he wouldn't be doing a spinoff because he's going to lose everything. This show ruined him. It turns him into the piece of shit that he is. Just because he's opening up a restaurant that's featuring Mama's beer cheese by Britney doesn't mean he suddenly saved and not a huge maniacal narcissistic
Starting point is 01:02:39 assal. Jack's is the original Scandival. So what the fuck are you talking about? This guy's awful and he's going to continue to be awful. Are we going to get this conversation like six or seven years from now when Sandoval's trying to come back to a show? Yeah. I'm going to... Why do you guys hate Sandoval so much? It seems like he's really changed his life. Seriously. But it's
Starting point is 01:02:57 literally almost saying the same thing. All right? Maybe Jack's cheated in his relationships before they got as deep as Ariana and Tom Sandoval's. But to say that this man has one changed, two is a good dude or three doesn't deserve the hate that he gets is ludicrous. I won't stand for it. All right. Last one.
Starting point is 01:03:16 From Mac LOL. Have you tried Uba's hot sauce and which is your favorite flavor? And why? We have not, but we will do an Uba review. I will find out where to get it. Get every flavor and we will dip our pinkies in it and eat it. It's kidding. We'll put it on chicken wing. No, we'll dip our pinkies and you have to eat it off of my pinky.
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