Bros & Shows - Cake Gate: Adriana Melts Down at Art Basel (RHOM Full Recap)

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

What's up Bros? RHOM is elite. This show rocks. This may have been one of the best episodes in franchise history. Larsa shows off her new house. Adriana preps for Art Basel and her curated art show. I...t was really impressive to see her in her element and to hear of what she does. Stephanie and Marysol sit down to hash things out. Kiki and her father have a really nice moment where he gets to see what modeling really looks like and watching their relationship blossom has been really sweet. At Art Basel we attempt to get to the bottom of the cake which we are stunned to find out that Kiki is behind it. Was it an honest mistake? Was it shady? We may never know, but how Adriana chooses to handle it... is not great. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:28 Terms and conditions apply. Learn more at amex.ca. slash yamex. Well, between Roslick and this, I would say that things are looking up. We had a little bit of a tough time there for a few weeks, but I feel like we're coming out on the other side, finally. We're finally coming out on the other side.
Starting point is 00:01:44 They've filmed the reunion, I believe, this week, or maybe today even. Oh, wow. So, or no, it was yesterday because we got reunion looks. So they are deep in it. We've got a couple episodes left of Miami, but the overlap is fantastic. fantastic for us.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host. Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only South Beach McGeats. What's up, dude? Art Basil. Not an herb. It's not basil.
Starting point is 00:02:25 It's not basil. Honestly, Basil, it's not mine. God, what a great time. Well, it was inevitable. We were waiting for it. It was going to happen eventually. I was hoping it wouldn't happen. I think that she has earned enough grace throughout the season where I'm still just going to laugh and not get annoyed.
Starting point is 00:02:45 But Adriana has taken center stage. Adriana, Adriana. And look, she waited long and, well, 16 episodes and 15? Yeah. It's fine. At this juncture, like, she had a great season. We were going to get it eventually. I think this might have been the worst one I've seen.
Starting point is 00:03:03 It wasn't the worst one. I can tell you right now it wasn't the worst one because I forgot the worst one until they showed me. Oh, maybe I was writing something down. Accidents happen all the time, Alexia. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That is by far the worst. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I can not believe that I forgot it. That just goes to show you how much of a pleasure she's been this year. And obviously, she made some shots at Marisol that when you're watching them in a different context, you're like, uh, all right. Yeah, tough look, tough look. It's still kind of funny at the time, but now it's like, all right, Adriana, maybe take a step back. Think about what's going on.
Starting point is 00:03:33 No, she's been great this whole season. It was inevitable. We knew it was going to happen eventually. Like I said, I think that she has earned enough for me to not be too critical of her. But boy, oh boy, I didn't even see it coming until right when it happened. The funny, usually the writings on the wall with an Adriana meltdown. It's funny because, like, the whole first half, I'm like, I'm so impressed. I'm like, wow, like, we never see this side of Adra.
Starting point is 00:03:59 She has clients in the art world. She's putting together this whole art show for Art Basel, which is apparently this massive event in Miami. Like, she clearly... You don't know what Art Basel is? I've heard of Art Basel. I honestly didn't know what was in the bad. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:14 So, paint a picture for you. Art Basil is where, when you're in your 20s and early 30s, I guess, the most annoying people that you know will go there and post on their stories. And then their stories turn into the... those little dots because they're posting so much about how much they love art basil it's the most annoying people enough said i i can see it already thank you before influencers were really a thing these people wanted to be influenced got it was one of those situations i can you believe this is my life and it's like yeah i can believe it's your life you've got like five dudes in a hotel room in
Starting point is 00:04:44 miami you're all spending a hundred dollars a night on and you're walking around acting like you're cool wearing j crew stuff nothing wrong with j crew nothing wrong with j crew i'm just saying i think it was like affliction but yeah oh god ed hardy ed hardy kind of vibe. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's artsy as shit. Uh,
Starting point is 00:04:58 I'd heard of it. I didn't know what it was. Uh, you just painted the picture very well. I can see the exact kinds of people that used to go at least. Mm-hmm. But my point is like, I was wowed by Adriana.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I was like, she is an impressive woman. She's, she's very well educated. She's got her master. She's in the art world. She speaks multiple languages. She's a singer.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I'm like, you know, she gets a lot of shit. But she's actually super duper interesting. And then halfway way through, we get to the Adriana Cliff, and she just leaps off of it head first. I was like, ah, there she is. All of the flowers I was given in my head watching this whole thing. And the minute that happened, I was like, oof, and she's back. But again, to your point, we've gotten
Starting point is 00:05:42 a phenomenal season out of her. Normally, we're like four episodes in, and I can usually bear it a little bit more than you, and you're like, fuck this. I can't stand it. It's driving me nuts. So she's earned the right to have a little freak out. This was not a little freak out. This was brutal. And she kept, we'll get there and we'll talk about it. But repeating herself over and over again was tough to watch. The way that it happens, the way it evolved was quintessential housewives. For sure. It was absolutely perfect. And this whole episode was completely throwing me off, honestly, because we end last episode with Adriana and Stephanie sitting down
Starting point is 00:06:21 getting to the root cause, getting to the root person in Marisol and you're thinking to yourself, oh, Adriana's got a teammate, maybe Stephanie's going to get on board with this and we're going to go after Marisol. They flip the tables.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Marisol has nothing to do with this episode, pretty much across the board. We have one conversation with her. She's out, Scott Free. Everything just turns on Adriana, and it's so wild how it happened because the rest of the episode was kind of throwing me through a little curveball.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah, it was masterful work. It was a great episode. It was just stunning and not in a good way. Like, when I got there, I'm like, ah, somebody take her to the bar. Like, end this, please. I'm uncomfortable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:03 But great episode, great season so far. And again, if this is the freak out we're going to get, I can handle an Adriana moment for the last few episodes. Absolutely. Like the beginning 16 would have been annoying. But yeah, we're in a good spot. so let's jump in and it starts the adrian setting up for our basil you know she's a curator so she's setting up this whole thing for chris rivers i think his name was which sounds like a
Starting point is 00:07:27 very artsy name uh loved his stuff like a backup vocalist for nickleback one of the two yeah chris nichols of nickelback chris nichols of nickleback what did i say rivers rivers nichols well anyway i love this stuff that one with the uh astronaut and then the sky was all messed i thought that was really cool you see that one yeah yeah i like his shit. But anyway, like I said, just very impressed by Adriana. She's got 20 years in the art world. She's representing multiple artists from multiple countries. I like learning this stuff about her. It's like when we were in Spain and she's like, well, this is this, this is this is this. And you find out she's got her masters in art history and all this other shit. So it's like she's getting
Starting point is 00:08:04 so many points. And I have layers. Layers. Lots of layers. I'm not going to say who else has layers because I don't want to make that comparison. That's mean. Don't do that. Don't do that. I'm not saying that but what I'm saying is she's got layers you got layers she's book smart she understands a lot of things that happen in history and socially it seems like she's very smart and very rich socially that what I was thinking watching this was like until we get to the adriana moment and then everything goes back to normal but while I'm watching this and I'm watching other people interact with her I'm like do we get a product of the group of our image of adriana like is it because she's on the outs with this crew that we have
Starting point is 00:08:45 this preconceived notion of who she is, but in her own circle, she's actually, like, looked up to impressive people want to hang out with her. Like, I think that's kind of the vibe I was getting initially. And then again, it all goes out the window later. I think what we get of Adriana, I think you're right. I think when it comes to this group, we do get some sort of perception of what she is and who she is. Right. And when we see these one-off scenes where she's with other people outside of the group, it's almost as if like she's playing two roles. That's what I felt like. But I think what this really is, and honestly, this is kind of where we're going to end up going anyway. I don't think, and she doesn't strike me as somebody who has an inner circle. She doesn't really have that one, two, three. She floats a lot. She's very, she's an enigma. Yeah. It really is. She's just kind of all over the place, and she's very impressive to the people that see her every once in a while. And then she has somebody like Julia, perhaps, who's close to her that actually knows the ins and outs of her life. And now, obviously, with that kind of turning a little bit, it's more case. chaotic in that group with her because she doesn't have somebody like Julia anymore, but for her
Starting point is 00:09:49 in a social life setting, she does float around and she's very impressive. And that's the by by God. She's impressive to me when she's in that setting too. Same. I was blown away. So I want to give her props. And what happens later, like, I'm not taking away from her in her other circles. It's just that was such a pivotal moment that it's like, it does definitely knock her back a
Starting point is 00:10:06 little bit. But yeah, it is interesting to watch her in this light, impressive to watch her in this light and I think that Bravo could do a better job honestly of highlighting some of the things that she does instead of because when we watch the artist thing like the musical artist thing it's kind of the butt of the joke sometimes like the Amelia Estevez thing or the concert in Brazil that they did yeah like it's always kind of in not in jest but it seems lighter you know what I mean later because one she's a friend of two the way that the mainstays on the cast treat her it always ends up that she's the butt of a joke
Starting point is 00:10:41 right and it's just always something that's like and usually i'm on board with it by now in this season this season i'm not really but i still understand what her role is and i still believe that her and marisola are the perfect friends of i think if you give her you give her a main cast you give her a mojito power you give her a little too much power then we're doing she's organizing trips she's organizing this she's got a huge event and every time that she has a huge event she has some sort of meltdown because she has that power trip so i do think they have her in the right spot, and I think this was going to happen regardless.
Starting point is 00:11:13 She had such a good season. Maybe they, even the producers, maybe during the season, we're like, wow, Adriana's doing a great job. Let's let her host the last party of the year. Let's see how that goes. That actually is a pretty funny notion that it's like, you know what? Here's your payout. And then they're like, fuck, but at the same time. Why we don't do this, but also
Starting point is 00:11:29 it's great. Like, admittedly speaking, it is very funny. It's a great show. It's incredibly funny what she does at the end. I'm still, maybe I'm blocked out and I've got rose color glass. is with Adriana. I don't know if that's true, but I do think it's really funny the way.
Starting point is 00:11:42 It was a funny situation in like an uncomfortable way, but let's get to Kiki and the rest. This was a nice scene. And as we've discussed last week, you know, you may have your thoughts and feelings about what happened to Kiki with her father and her stepmother when she was a teenager. At the end of the day, it's her life.
Starting point is 00:11:59 This is also going to come into play with somebody else later. But this is her life. She is cool with her dad. She's moving forward. So we at home are going to be on board with it. And we're going to root for her. happy moments such as this, where you actually see, and you can literally see how proud her dad is
Starting point is 00:12:14 in this moment, like taking pictures, he has this, like, full circle moment where he's like, you know, in Haiti, we think that modeling is the equivalent to prostitution or stripping or porn or whatever it is. And in this moment, it's like, oh, this is what you do. This is really cool. And it's also even cooler that the first time he sees her do it, it's at a fucking, like, PJ with luggage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:35 That was sick. So I'm so happy that that's what she ended up setting up. Because, look, Kiki does a lot of different modeling. I'm sure she does some swimwear. I'm sure she does lingerie. The fact that we're walking into this talking to her dad about how uncomfortable he might be, I'm worried that it's going to be a lingerie shoot. I'm worried it's going to be swimwear and he's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:12:54 I don't really like this. Older generation, different country. Who knows how that works down there. Like you said, if Kiki's okay with it and she's moving forward with the relationship, we should be okay with it and moving forward with the relationship, even though we just learned about this. That being said, I think this was perfect. I think it was really nice,
Starting point is 00:13:10 and I think it hit on all of the issues, all of the main conversation pieces that we've had between the two of them. He's taking pictures to send back to the family in Haiti to say, here you go. This is what she's doing. She makes a joke and says, can you tell everybody that this is my private jet
Starting point is 00:13:26 just to get them going? And he says, of course. So they've got a good rapport right now, and they're able to talk about all these different things. And we've watched this blossom. Literally from start to finish. It's been really nice. And, like, I'm happy for them.
Starting point is 00:13:38 If she's cool, I'm cool. And it was a nice scene. You know, nothing more to say about it. Now, let's get to Larson's house. And I mean this so respectfully, not shady at all. And I'm all about people getting their bag. This is a house by feet. It is impressive.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Hey, I'm literally not square footage. Hey, there we go. It's impressive. And, like, look, you can say what you want about Larsa, the come up and see. And I know she gets some money from Scotty, but she doesn't. does have a very lucrative business in what she does. And to pay for a $5.7 million house, the house is beautiful. The backyard's gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:14:14 She did it on her own. The teddy bear's stupid. The teddy bear's awful. Whispy? Who the fuck is wispy? Am I supposed to know this man? No, you're not supposed to know that man. And in an episode that is central around good art.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah. We get a following this in the middle of this is a joke. A gummy bear with a New York City. Department of Corrections list. What does that mean? I have no idea. Where are you going to put that, the foyer, walk in and be like, oh, cool teddy bear. What the fuck is this thing?
Starting point is 00:14:41 I take it because at the bottom of the sign, I really looked at this. It says bear comma gummy. So the name of the bear is gummy bear. He's going to jail. For what? What did this gummy bear do? I don't care. What did he do?
Starting point is 00:14:54 What is he accused of? Why do you want this in your lawn? Bear comma gummy? Brutal. This thing sucked. It really sucked. I'm happy that we're on the same page because I was worried you're going to be like, well, you know, it's kind of cool. No, I wrote down wispy, ugly-ass bear.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Okay, all right, cool, yeah. I don't know. She drops wispy like it's bansy. I do love that we're getting this, like, and we've already seen the house, but this is, like, the big reveal of the house. Yeah, people are coming over. They're sleeping over. I never understand this. If you're rich as shit, have your house done before people come over.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Here's what I think happened. Okay. I think that she... She ran out of time? Yes, for a couple of reasons. Like one, she probably really is excited to get in there, which I understand. Two, I would imagine she didn't re-up on her lease, thinking that it would be done by this date. And then, you know, as with everything, especially post-COVID, supply chains suck.
Starting point is 00:15:48 You get delays. Then she's hit at the end. They're like, oh, this is on hold. This is on hold. That's on hold. And she's like, fuck, my lease is up. I understand all of that. I just never really understand it when we're talking about like a $5.7 million house and we're in there.
Starting point is 00:16:01 If you're giving a tour to Stephanie to say, this is where I'm going to do. do this and do that fine that's great but if this is going to be your big reveal i'm going to say wait until next season i would say do the first event of next season because i do think that larsic tends to think about production schedules oh for sure without a doubt for specific life yes have the first event next year which still very well could be a housewarming party i agree but at the same time like if she's this is the one time i'm really not going to shit on marcia that i genuinely wasn't about how she was drunk later, she was a lot of fun. Yeah, she's great. That's what you have to do.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Great episode. She's not mean either. She's really nice. She's funny. Just get her a little drunk. She's funny. She's nice to everybody. Perfect. And she still causes drama, but not in like a typical Larsa way where it's like in your face. It's more just like, this is what's happening. Like, get on board. And I'm like, all right, I'm on board. Maybe she's just excited. Like, she seems genuinely excited. This is her first home that she's owned. Like, I'm giving her all the props in this moment. I thought this was a nice moment for Larsa. We were going to make fun of her together. Nope. I can make fun of the gummy bear.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I can make fun. I can understand completely where you're coming from. Like, I'm not going to reprimand you for where you stand. I just thought in a world in which I usually make fun of Larsa or I'm not team Larsa. Like, this was a nice moment for her. Be like, look what I have now. Look what I have now. Look what I built.
Starting point is 00:17:21 And look what I get it. Yeah. Yeah. Put my best foot forward. There you go. Get them all out now. Well, score footage is already taken. Yeah, you're going to be pissed later if you think of a good one.
Starting point is 00:17:31 You're just going to say it. I know that. I'll just blurt it out if I think of what along the way. But no, I just thought it was a nice moment. Stephanie joins. It takes a little dig, but she also acknowledges, like, beautiful house just would have waited. She's on the same page as you. And then Alexia joins.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Hold on. Let's talk about Stephanie's comment. I'm talking as a third party, just watching TV. Sure. Who doesn't understand the rich world. This is your friend. No, no, that's not even where I was going on. What's going on with Stephanie's house?
Starting point is 00:17:57 Oh, yeah. Wait a minute. But she doesn't live there. Yeah. She doesn't live in it. At all. Is that the difference? She's never going to live in it.
Starting point is 00:18:03 it's gone didn't it get taken yeah it got taken or closed upon i don't know i that's where it got a little ran out of money there yeah it's kind of ran out of money and then she didn't really want to do it they wanted to blow it down to the studs and then take everything out that the ex-wife had planned and whatever the thing that there was 10,000 square feet we weren't seeing we find out later that the house itself is 10,000 square feet total including the yard yeah yeah a lot of a lot came out about that house very interesting comment to make you know that's a very good point you might be living with lars doesn't talk about money though no that was the funny as shit I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I'm so happy that that turned around because it was such a, not even a sticking point, it was just one of those. We said it a million times. If she keeps doing it, it's going to get annoying. She did stop to some extent. Yeah, but it sneaks in. It was a little more subtle than it was before. The first like three episodes that she was in, she hit you over the head with it.
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Starting point is 00:20:32 But I genuinely or generally gravitate towards her opinion, usually. So I'm stoked that she called it out. I'm not surprised that she called it out. But Alexia joins Stephanie and Marcia. And we obviously, I guess
Starting point is 00:20:47 Stephanie's cool with Alexia now. We saw them on the cruise ship kind of make amends via throwing Marisol under the bus, which I'll bring up later, just thought that was interesting. But they start talking about the Todd stuff, which Obviously, it's a little dangerous with Stephanie there, but they actually end up having a pretty good conversation.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Because Larsa brings it up. Like when is, like you're running out of time, right? Like you have a few weeks until the three-month thing. And Larsa's like, yeah. And he's going to bamboozle you or something like that. Alexia is open to that. And she's like, he might.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And I gave him a lot of power. And this is where I stand after this conversation. She acknowledged it. She knows what the danger is. are. She clarifies, this is my life at the end of the day. And at the end of the day, when an adult says, I'm going to do this, I recognize the dangers. But it is my life. And it's between Todd and I, I'm out. I think it's a conversation that always is heavily dependent on who's there. A little surprised that Stephanie being there, she was this open about it. Same.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Larsa seems to get these types of conversations done pretty well. Especially with Alexia. Yeah. And I don't know what she does or what she has over Alexia that she's able to do this because we watch a very different conversation with Marisol later. And Marisol is her best friend who knows everything. So that's a little different. I still got, and I'm still kind of on the side of Alexia is now doing the backtrack of fuck. Like how much did I say? What did I say? Specifically, what did I say about Todd? Can I take any of it back? No, I'm just going to ignore it. So now she's kind of changing her tune a little bit. And I do think it's the right approach, honestly, if we're going to look at it that way. I think if you take some responsibility and say the type of thing of, I'm an adult.
Starting point is 00:22:32 You got to let adults just do what they're going to do at some point. Cool. Yeah. Perfect. I'm out on it now. I'm like, all right, we'll see what. I don't think it's a good idea. I don't think anybody watching things is a good idea.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Todd is a loser. Yep. But it's your life. And like, all I was waiting for was the acknowledgement of, yes, I understand the risks. It's like, okay, then, you know, do you, boo boo, boo, I'm out. But it is an interesting conversation, especially considering Stephanie's there. and the conversation with Marisol later, this is an important step for a newcomer, I think,
Starting point is 00:23:02 especially one that comes in hot, is it somewhere along the way the recognition of I need to like chill out a little bit and make amends and not just try to keep lighting things on fire. It always bodes well and makes me confident for next season where it's like, okay, so you're going to come in now, you've got a lot of friends in the group. You might be a little edgy with a couple of them,
Starting point is 00:23:22 but overall you're in most people's good graces, which means the group can be cohesive, which means we can travel together, we can hang out with different groups. So that, I thought, was a subtle thing, but like an important thing. Yeah, it's definitely an important thing. I do think that, obviously, Alexia passed the buck a little bit to Marisol and Stephanie took it. Yes, definitely.
Starting point is 00:23:41 In this context, I'm fully fine with because I'd rather you be cool with one and not cool with the other or have to have a conversation with the other than be a little trepidious towards both. Sure. Just, you know, open your doors to everybody because that's how people get heard on this show, and that's what makes the show good. Yep. So why not?
Starting point is 00:23:58 Yep. Love it. Love to see it. Let's get to Julia and Martina and their boys. And obviously we're still talking about the daughters being MIA. They're not coming home for Christmas. And, you know, I don't know if productions being Jady and throwing in like the scene of Julia not knowing where her child goes to school. I thought that was interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Yeah. She takes a video of Martina and the boys. That's like one of the only, what's her daughter's name, Emmy? Emmy, I believe. Emmy and Vika? Vika. Vika. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Yeah. But I think that's probably one of the only scenes that they have of Emmy. I think there was a, no, we saw one three years ago. I remember one like on the dock. When they were talking about the empty nester situation and they were about to leave. To go to Paris, I think she was going to school in. Believe so. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:40 How did I pull that one out? Yeah. But, you know, they made amends, I guess. Like someone's coming home at some point in the near future. Another one's coming back for spring break. Yeah, Vika is coming back. Apparently from what I got of this conversation. Now, again, obviously, we're finally getting.
Starting point is 00:24:55 specifics instead of just kind of not even really we're just kind of breaking it down to two daughters instead of you know the daughters generally speaking my daughters um my daughters uh my daughters uh but yeah apparently vica seems a little bit more cool with the whole situation explains to julia hey i think it would be a little easier if we were living at home because then at least we would have some time to adjust but now we're just kind of out of it it all kind of still goes back to the conversation that you just brought up about the empty dusters yes if i am looking at this unbiased because i know we've been doing a ton of julia hate recently i'm actually shifting over to martina hate today me too what a brutal scene fucking jesus um but if we're doing this unbiased i do think that julia
Starting point is 00:25:41 did really explain her emotions and what they wanted to do to her daughters in person years ago and if we saw that on camera i'm sure there were different conversations that happened throughout where it was like, yeah, we're doing this, we're doing that. And adoption happens quickly. So I do think that some of it is probably on the daughters. There's two sides to every story kind of deal. Let's, you know, try to figure this out. You know, your parents want to be happy.
Starting point is 00:26:05 They weren't ready to be empty nesters. They were ready to take on these boys. They took on the boys. It should be a happy moment. Maybe don't make it about yourself. Yeah. Just trying to be unbiased and just deal with the information that we do have. I can see that.
Starting point is 00:26:18 But I got such a different vibe. I thought it was Julia. I thought it was, you know, Julia and Martina maybe being a little insensitive to the daughters. I think it's mostly Martina. I think they don't like Martina. Jesus Christ. Like in this situation, she got her kids back.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Like, they're coming home. Fucking smile and say great. Yeah. Well, you know, they cause this because they can't do it. Shut up. It's such a different vibe. And obviously, she's very weird online and does a lot of things online. But in this show, when we've seen her be approached by somebody,
Starting point is 00:26:50 It was early in the season She was approached by Gertie It was very weird But it struck me as like This is between you and Julia I don't want to be part of this I don't want any drama I don't want to deal with any of this shit
Starting point is 00:27:00 I'm just not going to say anything I'm going to walk away I'm starting to get an idea That she has many more opinions Oh yeah And behind closed doors She says a lot Definitely
Starting point is 00:27:08 If you're sitting here with Julia's daughters Talking about them Trying to be happy with them Coming back into the fold Trying to figure things out And you're just stone cold Well you know they shouldn't have done in the first place
Starting point is 00:27:19 On camera. They're going to see it. I thought it was the dumbest shit. Like, what are you doing? Just even if you're not happy with the situation, support Julia. This has been, you just acknowledge, it's almost like this. Like, she acknowledged the hurt that she watched Julia go through via her daughters, okay? But instead of doing what Julia is doing, like, look, we talked a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I see where they're coming from. They see where I'm coming from. We made amends. We got a bridge forward here. She then villainizes the daughter. again and it's like well it's their fault you are so unhappy so fuck them it's like whoa dude this isn't like a friend of right like where you can be like i'm still not cool with adriana that's a different story this is blood this is family yep family i had to do family family uh just be cool
Starting point is 00:28:07 dude like what the fuck are you doing you're you're doing this on camera at least yes at least save face for camera yeah wait just do what you've been doing shut the fuck up don't talk yeah that'd be great and then also deactivate your fucking twitter yeah But that's a different story for a different day. But, like, this was baffling. And Julia is hurt by it, clearly, and clearly doesn't want to make it a bigger thing on camera. She's like, well, no, like, I, because Martina goes, like, I don't understand where they're coming from. And Julie's like, well, I do.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Like, we're good. And I can, like, hear it in her head. Like, what the fuck are you doing? It was bigger for me that Julia understood where her daughters were coming from. And I do think that it probably took, you know, talking to Vika and actually going through everything. And having the promise of, well, Vika's coming back. Emmy's going to figure out what she's going to do for school she's got spring break coming up
Starting point is 00:28:51 she's got to figure out what she wants to do but it might be her coming home which is great and that's great for me now I can finally see it from their perspective. I do think you know the scene that we got when they were over in Spain talking to the godfather who you know isn't always Italian I guess
Starting point is 00:29:06 oh no I'm kidding I'm just fucking whoops uh anyway but uh yeah when she was over in Spain talking to him are you having a child that was a very very dad
Starting point is 00:29:17 dad joke. Yeah, that was pretty good. But I got a vibe talking to him that she doesn't see that side of it. She doesn't understand what's going on. And she seems to be saying all the wrong things on camera that they're going to see later. Now this is a much different tune. There's a lot going on here. You would think that maybe Martina would at least shut up.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Just shut up. Let her have a moment and just, you know, we'd still be able to see that you were displeased. But I do know that that is generally your disposition anyway. It's just miserable. So I wouldn't read too far into it because you're always miserable. You're a curmudget. That's what you are. And I get that.
Starting point is 00:29:50 When you start talking, now I'm starting to figure out that you're probably the problem here. Yeah, dude. This scene was eye opening. And I'm not like on the Julia train again, but I will point out, like, we're not, we go based off of what we see, what we get, evidence, all that stuff. From what we're seeing, there's a clear issue here. And it's clearly not Julia who, Martina admittedly is like, you look a lot less stressed. Let's change that.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I'm not fucking happy about this. It's like, what are you doing? You've got a different air about you. Why? Yeah, let's go. Let's change that. Let's go back to miserable like me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Fucking weird. It was so weird, dude. And, like, I... The scene that I thought was going to, you know, quell all of those issues. We were so close. We were so close. So close. And it raised so many more eyebrows.
Starting point is 00:30:34 By the way, they probably didn't come home because they watched this episode. They're like, I'm not fucking coming home. Absolutely not. She stinks, mom. Uh-huh. By the way, it was never about the boys. Yeah, I'm glad we're on the same. I was stunned at this whole thing, and I felt bad for Julia.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. Let's get to Lisa and Jody for another. There's a lot of great scenes this episode. This was so funny. Stunning. This was shocking, bro. So first of all, Jody wants to have a nice night.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Hires like a private chef. They're doing Hamachi, which is, oh, I love Hamachi so much. But they go out on the deck. They're talking. It's above and beyond the most adult conversation I've seen. Yep. Not just Lisa, but both of them have to do. Before we even.
Starting point is 00:31:17 get to that, I do want to talk about Jody in particular because we start the scene talking about how Jody loves being around the kids. Yes. I do think he loves being around the kids. I think he is just so goddamn awkward. Yeah, I think so. He really is. And he strikes me as somebody who's probably maybe he's a single child. Maybe he doesn't have nieces and nephews. That man has never been around children. Yeah, that's probably a good point. You're good. You want, you, this is your food. Just eat it. I put it in your bowl. Uh, your, uh, your bowl. I, uh, your bowl. I, I love you. This is your girlfriend of three years children who you've been around countless times.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Maybe it's camera stuff. It could be camera stuff too because we did see that confessional where she basically had to like walk in. Yeah. And like, what I'll say about this scene is I thought Jody scored a lot of points. Yeah. No, Jody made a ton of sense, story miss. And I also think that Lisa listening to him and reacting and not freaking out scored a lot of points for Lisa. Tons of points, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:11 We are getting more going back to that confessional again where they sleep in separate bedrooms because they fight on. the time. It's like, all right, yeah, we don't want to hear that. We get more of that in this scene where it's like, all right, you guys are presenting on camera, like the perfect couple, and we're hearing behind the scenes that it's not that way, and that's okay. Yeah, but tell us. Tell us. And, well, you don't have to tell us, but like, for a TV show and tell us everything. And it makes sense when you start talking about it, everybody in their right mind is going to understand where you're coming from, both of you. And then I'm on there. Like, I've been neutral with these two. I don't care, really. I'm indifferent
Starting point is 00:32:46 after this scene, I'm like, I'm kind of rooting for you guys. Yeah, I want you guys to make it. Yeah, because Jody, like, Lisa, obviously, of course, with the setup, is like, hmm, this makes me think something special is going to happen. And Jody's like, look, dude. Like, completely. The look dude was conveyed by his eyes. Look, dude, we need to talk.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah. I want to do that eventually. Uh-huh. But you need to understand over the past couple of years, like, first of all, the fact that I stuck it out through all of that shit, which I thought was a little strong, but whatever. I think the way the conversation worked out. I understood what he meant.
Starting point is 00:33:20 So did I. I understood what he meant. The way he said it was a little brash. And obviously production being a little shady throwing a Lenny comment in there where he said the same thing. Like I don't think there's anybody in the world that would be able to stick it out with you the way that you are. But I understand what he means. Yeah, it was fucking hell. We saw it on TV.
Starting point is 00:33:38 It was hell. And she got no love from her castmates while she was going through it because they were just trying to get her to shut up about Lenny. And in reality, she was going through a terrible divorce. Horrible. And he was being a tyrant. And she had to stick it out and figure all these things out when she didn't know what the hell she was doing. She was just listening to lawyers. Jody, I get where you're coming from, but sitting there and saying, who do you know?
Starting point is 00:34:01 Who, name me one person that would be able to stick it out with you that long. Dude, like... There's a different way to do that. You could change the words and say the exact same thing and it would come off so much nicer. Look, the last years have been really hard. I stuck it out because I love you. Good job. bang right there perfect that's what he was trying to say i believe she didn't react to that which
Starting point is 00:34:19 was nice well that was where she started to get a lot of points and that's where like you know i was able to look past the way that he entered the conversation because everything that he was saying makes a lot of sense you know i can put up with not put up with but i can understand that you're going through something that people go through things i'm like good point jody people do go through things nice job and you're going through a hell of a thing i'm like oh right it's so low it's so all he had to do was say like so right jody i love it when you're right it feels so good when you're right it's the first i've ever heard you be right now it feels so good but uh he says that and i'm like yeah good point dude and then he's like and look like what what would really work for me
Starting point is 00:34:56 i'm like communication great is if you did something about therapy book something an outlet because this is eating you up inside and it's affecting us because then you take it out on me didn't have to give the examples because that hammered at home those those examples were Drive slower, drive slower, drive faster, get out of my way. You're standing in the hall. I'm like, oh, like, so breathing is a problem when she's pissed off. Okay, got it. But he did actually paint a nice picture of what it's like.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And her reaction, again, says everything to me. It's great. Because she understood, yeah, I need to stop doing that. I also love that he threw Larsa in there. Yeah, that's looking hilarious. You could have just kept this on topic talking about Lenny, talking about the divorce, and how stressed out she's been. Instead, you say,
Starting point is 00:35:42 between Lenny and Larsa, you've got so much shit going on. You get into a fight with her. You get into a fight with him and his lawyers. I have to bear the brunt the entire time. I don't want to deal with that anymore. I love that he threw Larsa in there because Larsa is an instigator, and she does actually play with Lisa's emotions. And text Jody.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Yeah, and text Jody. So now it also paints a different picture of that whole situation. Just by this whole scene. This was like the verbal version of air conditioning. Yeah. For me. Yeah, that made me feel a lot better. I was, I was shocked by the, I was like, wow, I just wrote down at the end, great convoy, guys, nice work.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Nice work. I was, I was shocked. Yeah, that's all we needed. She was receptive. She's going to move forward and he said, look, if you do these things and you start getting better and you have an outlet, then I'm ready and I'm all yours. Real quick, too. And again, that could be taken a little differently. That's a little manipulative, maybe.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Sure. Yeah. Not in this context for me. We'll just take it as a W for the. these two, finally, because we have yet to have one since they've been together. It's been awkward scenes, her being mad, Jody doing something weird, and us shitting on Jody for a while. So for once, good work, you two. Good work.
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Starting point is 00:39:36 Wait, what about Lyon? Choose from our world of destinations if you can. Air Canada. Nice travels. Now let's get back to the show and let's talk about Adriana. She's going through her art space. They're setting up. 2,500 RSVPs for this show, which is really cool.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Listening to her talk about art was interesting. She's like, you know, he's got the brush stroke of Rembrandt, the creativity of a dolly. I'm like, we're not exactly the socialites that are going to be in a museum in Paris that are going. over all of these things. I've never been to Paris. You just have to name drop a couple of the most famous artists of all time and then associate them with a brushstroke. And I'm hooked. And I'm horny. Like, wow, Dolly. I know that one. Ricked up. Definitely heard her Rembrandt before. She drops some like a scary guy that like artsy people. I'd be like, I don't know that guy. That's not a present. Pull on brain boner. Thanks, Adriana. Well done. Jesus Christ. Larsa joins. And
Starting point is 00:40:31 immediately, and I'm stoked that this came up. This is the kind of petty shit that I love to talk about the cake. 32 times 2 minus 5. We're trying to figure out who did it. Now, we go through the list of suspects later, but, you know, immediately Larsa's blaming Julia, Adriana's blaming Julia, whole thing's insensitive. And Larsa is Larsa-ing and just trying to set up pieces for later. She's doing a good job. I think this is perfectly done. I thought it was great. I'm so happy that this came back because it seems like such a one-off, such a, let's just sweep this one under the rug and move on. It's just Adriana who really cares. But instead, it's Larsa who is exactly who I want to do this.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I want her to come into the group and at least start planting some seeds here and there. Let's talk about this. Let's get to the bottom of it because I feel like no one wanted to talk about it. We never got to talk about the cake. We got up and just started wiping it off immediately and we just moved on. We didn't talk about the cake. It was shady. Let's figure out who it was because it wasn't Larsa, unless it's she who smelt it dealt it,
Starting point is 00:41:26 which could have been the case. I didn't see this coming at all because we were both firmly, mostly leaning towards Julia with an idea that maybe Marisaw. had something to do with it because she set up the trip. This reveal was stunning. It was awesome. This was so well done and most of its production, of course, but you have to give props to the ladies.
Starting point is 00:41:47 It was really good. The reveal was great. Before we get to the reveal, just there's a quick scene that we need to touch on with Marisol and Alexia regarding the Todd stuff again because they're on their way to the event. Now, this conversation does go differently than the one that we saw earlier, but at the same time I felt that the general overall message once again was it's my life I'm going to do what I got to do I hear you but I don't talk about Todd around you anymore because you're always negative about them this is this is where I'm going to do so I'm done I think it was honestly
Starting point is 00:42:18 well done on both parts because they both stood their ground and Alexia has taken some time to figure out exactly how she's going to verbalize what's going on with Todd and how she's moving forward with Todd and it's a lot of the same conversation that we saw earlier with Alexia talking to Larsa and Stephanie, but this had a way different tone. Yep. And it's almost leading towards something that we talked about a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Is this going to fray their relationship between Marisola and Alexia? Alexia is going to go through with this and you're in that position as a friend where you've heard all of these things that she's been talking about. You know all of the bad things that he's done. You know what kind of impact he has on Alexia's life.
Starting point is 00:43:00 You don't really want her to go through with it. You kind of want her to just remain single or maybe find somebody else and move on because it's not good. And I agree with Marisol, but I also agree with Alexia in this. I agree with Marisol's sentiment. You're right. Like, she shouldn't get back with Todd, but I agree with Alexia at the end of the day, it's her decision. So it's like... And also, if you're going to get back with Todd and every time that you talk about him in front of your best friends and she groans,
Starting point is 00:43:26 you're not going to talk about Todd anymore. Yeah. And at the end of the day, like Marisol can rest on her laurels. and if it does go south, she did everything she could to try to avoid that situation so she doesn't have to feel like she didn't speak up. So I think you chalk it up to a wash.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I do think it's going to lead to some tension between the two of them, especially if she does actually, I don't know where her and Todd stand, I imagine. Now, they're trying to keep a quiet at reunion. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:48 But let's get back to the cake stuff because that's what I'm really into. And we even go through like the list of suspects. It's like an old school like crime movie. Like, bam, it flashes over this person, freeze frame. I just love that the majority of the suspects were, She's too dumb.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, Josh, she couldn't pull this off. Yeah, algebra doesn't seem like her strong suit. Yeah, no, definitely not her, definitely not her. Julia was in charge of the cake. It's pretty damning evidence. But what we didn't know was that people already know. Now, the last thing I expected, because you get Kiki and Gertie arriving together,
Starting point is 00:44:24 and we get the reveal from Kiki herself. I did it. Yep. my favorite scene of this episode there's a lot of good ones is Gertie not answering the confession going I gotta go and just steps up away from the whole thing walks away and I love to because
Starting point is 00:44:38 clearly somebody's texting Gertie and I don't know if it's producers I don't know if it's maybe Larson is sitting over there like hey we're going to get to the bottom of this either way it's some sort of good production because you're just trying to piece it together we got to figure out who knows what what's going on
Starting point is 00:44:52 Gertie gets the text message thank God she's just alone with Kiki and this was relatable honestly, in a weird way because, yeah, was it terrible execution on trying to make Adriana feel better, a better age?
Starting point is 00:45:08 Like, hey, you wanted to be 32. It's basically 32, but you're just going to multiply it by 2 and then subtract 5. It makes no real sense. I can see where she's coming from that she thought that it was going to play in a funny way. But that's why it's so great is like,
Starting point is 00:45:23 sure. Yeah. Yeah. But it's a bit of a stretch. Exactly. It leaves the door. open for speculation of, were you being shady or were you trying to be nice? Because in the, in the aftermath of the ratchet, I think funny trumps everything here. I think that like she was
Starting point is 00:45:41 trying to be funny. And I think that she was trying to be like funny shady, slash a little bit shady because she's still pissed that she got called ratchet. Yep. So I think at the end of the day, it's more shady than it was, ha ha funny. Yep. But I also know, and because of her trawl, record of not really getting involved in bullshit. She has the availability to be like, I was just being nice. And it went the wrong way, which leads us to all speculate, which is fun. And then at the end of the day, we're going to get to the reunion. No, what Kiki says, Adrian is never going to forgive her.
Starting point is 00:46:14 No, not at all. Even if she was being 100% genuine, this is... Also, I don't think this had anything to do with the Ratchet comment. I don't know. I really don't, just because of what Kiki's reaction was later, I don't think this had anything to do with the Ratchet comment. I think they had really moved on. And for whatever reason, I believe Kiki, when we see that they've moved on, and I think even later in that, on that trip, the two of them looked at each other like, well, that was pretty stupid that we did
Starting point is 00:46:40 that last night, because look at these idiots. And they kind of just bonded and moved on, and we didn't talk about it anymore. I don't think Kiki was trying to get back at her for any reason. I think it was, yeah, maybe she was being a little shady. Maybe it was a little bit more of like, you're sucking the fun out of this party right now because you're just moping over there on your birthday. Let me poke a little fun at you. So it's a little shady. It's a little funny. It didn't go over well. No. The cake gets wiped off. Yeah. But then they
Starting point is 00:47:05 have a great night. So Kiki says immediately, I felt bad. And then I didn't care anymore because Adriana was able to have fun. And I thought we would just move on. So to play devil's advocate here, I'm on the same side as you. That's what I think. But it's also the perfect
Starting point is 00:47:21 crime because Kiki does have a spotless track record. That she can just take stance, and most of us will believe it. Yeah. It's the perfect crime. Yeah. So, like, we'll never know. Yeah, I think that if it was a full get-back, I think it was a
Starting point is 00:47:37 get-back because Adriana was miserable. Yeah, and that one makes a little bit of sense, but let's get to Stephanie and Marisol because they sit down to, unbeknownst to Marisle hash some things out, and Stephanie lays it out for, now this was confusing to me. And I'm glad that they
Starting point is 00:47:53 got to a place, and this show is, Marisol in particular, is always so good about being like, you know, we're good. Let's just move the fuck on. So I'm glad that that's where we ended up. But the complete lack of acknowledgement that Alexia threw you under the bus multiple times, she doesn't even hear that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:09 That part of the conversation goes in one ear or not the other. I'm like, you realize that Alexia literally, we watched it, like blamed you for everything. Yeah. Now, are you at a point with her Marisol where you're like, I know Alexia, she does stupid shit like that. It's not that big of a deal. I think it was, in my mind, I think it was 50%. Yeah, I said those things. I did those things.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I don't really care if Alexia is telling you that I did those things because I'm going to stand my ground anyway, and she does. She does, which I always respect. I think part of it is also where she is with Alexia currently, with Todd. You know what? I've got bigger fish to fry. I do not care if this is what she's doing behind my back. It doesn't really matter because I did say those things.
Starting point is 00:48:47 So it's not like she's talking shit behind my back that's untrue. She's telling you, I did those things. I had an impact on whether or not Alexia was going to go and it comes down to this is what I wanted to do and this is what I didn't want to do because I didn't want to hear you talk about money now granted Stephanie is right in that Larsa was the one price dropping about the PJ and things like that now where she loses me entirely and it's not that she hadn't made like references to money in the private jet before that so it's not like that's the only comment that was made but the fact that she then doubles down says I don't talk
Starting point is 00:49:20 about money I'm like ooh you lost yeah this is over now we're playing this a man game at this point because you name drop every designer that you have. You did it for four or five straight episodes. It got really annoying, but you were doing other things. You said I had a big burkin for my burkins. Yeah, we let it slide. And obviously, production comes in with a good compilation of all of the times that Stephanie has mentioned designers or talked about money, talked about how wealthy she is, how wealthy her husband is, whatever it might be. So she does those things. To not be aware that you were doing those things says something else to me. Agreed. Agreed. So the end of the conversation, Marisol apologized. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I thought that the jet might do that. So I apologize for that. She goes to a confessional. Like confessionals confirm where they stand. And she goes to the confessional. She's like, look, I love Stephanie. She gets over things really quickly just like me. So like, yeah, like we're going to be great. Stephanie echoes that for the most part. She's a little hesitant to fully trust Marisol. But at the end of the day, they're cool. This is something that Miami does exceptionally well amongst their cast as being able to.
Starting point is 00:50:24 to come to terms, even if they don't agree on something, just being like, you know, let's chalk it up and move on. Lisa and Larsa already did it. They have a track record of always being good at that. So that's what we love. I love to see that Stephanie and newcomer is able to do it. Yes. She had the chance to make this a huge thing,
Starting point is 00:50:41 sitting down with Adriana at the end of last episode, team up against Marisol. She's the real villain behind the scenes. She's moving in the shadows. She's influencing everybody's decisions when it comes to us, telling who people can like, can't like, go there, go there, whatever it might be. And it didn't amount to any of that, which could have been annoying. And the other part of it is we get to see a little mini scene, which usually you and I tend to
Starting point is 00:51:05 hone in on those. Why don't we see those at the time? This was good placement, I think, because we did not need to see that. I think it was while they were on the yacht still. No, this is much better. Yeah. This was just a little scene where they kind of squashed it. Now they're sitting down talking about it again.
Starting point is 00:51:21 so Marisol's confused. I'm okay with the placement of the scene that we didn't get to see a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I agree. I agree. So let's get to the craziness because vibes are high. I'm watching at home vibes are high.
Starting point is 00:51:34 This is a great episode. Things are trending the right direction. Lisa and Marse are hugging. Julia sees that. Julia gets sentimental. Like, oh, you know what? I really do miss Adriana. I want to hug Adriana.
Starting point is 00:51:45 The only thing that could get in the way of this reconciliation because Adriana wants it as well is the kid. cake. Mm-hmm. And sure enough, the cake comes up because she finds out that Kiki is the one behind it. And Adriana's mood instantly shifts. The way that she finds out that Kiki was the one who did it is so good. Down the line.
Starting point is 00:52:08 It's so perfect for a housewife show. Lisa to Larsa, Larson to her. Everybody's talking about it. She's still talking about random shit, just walking around. She's not even talking about the cake anymore. But unbeknownst to her, everybody else is talking about the cake. cake because they need to figure out. Because Larsa brought it up. Exactly. Larsa brings it up, brings it to the party. Great timing. It's Adriana's party. Let's bring up something that might
Starting point is 00:52:30 set Adriana off when she finds out who did it. I think Larsa thought that it was Julia because that is such low-hanging fruit. We've watched these two. Their whole friendship is like out the window at this point. We know why. This is going to set her off. We're going to have the two of them budding heads. We can all get involved. This is great producing by Larsa. She didn't expect it to be Kiki. She had no idea. And she finds out because she's talking to Alexia and Marisol, who knew because Kiki told them already. And they said, yeah, we're just going to sit in the corner and just drink our cocktail and, you know, just watch the circus because this is not going to be great. Kiki's still even talking to them thought it was just going to be a joke. It was going to help her out,
Starting point is 00:53:11 whatever. Who cares? Larsa is talking to Lisa. Lisa then says, oh, I heard it was Kiki. To Larsa. That is so good. Who's sitting right now. to Adriana, who wasn't even thinking about the cake, finds out that people are talking about the cake, immediately gets confirmed that it was Kiki. Holy shit, blow up. Yeah, especially the way that it all happened. It was almost like watching a movie.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Like, the vibes are so high. Everyone's having fun. Everyone's getting along. Julia and Adriana are talking again finally. It's like, everything's happy. And it's like, bam, wild card. Absolute wild card. Yeah, it was cinema.
Starting point is 00:53:46 It was absolute cinema. Adriana starts to think about what she's done wrong to Kiki. this must be the wretched comment wretched ratchet situation and it goes so south so fast because her friend is there who is a fashion designer and she goes to her friend and to defend herself which very important here kiki never called her racist no nobody on the cast called her racist here's what i believe happened somebody said to her her behind the scenes, that comes off kind of racist. That's all that I can imagine. That's the only thing I can think of. She was talking about it so much in Seville. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:30 She was telling everybody that she was saying wretched, not ratchet. People were questioning it back and forth. And then they were probably just trying to explain to her, hey, you can't really say that to a black woman. She might take it as racist. It's got a different connotation to it. Or she came home, and I could see Adriana doing this as well, and talk to race. random people about it. Maybe she's sitting at a coffee shop asking the difference between Retchet and Ratchet,
Starting point is 00:54:56 explaining the whole situation, and a random stranger that she was talking to, explain to her why that might be a little racist. So don't do that. And this has just been festering in her mind. And you can tell that she is jumping through hoops, getting through all of it. And then she does my favorite thing of all time. It's my least favorite thing of all time. When you might be being accused of being racist.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Oh, don't do it. I have black friends. How am I racist? Oh, it's unbelievable. And the fact that it's Adriana doing it, you can't help but laugh at her. Because, again, nobody called her racist. No. And she's not racist.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And Kiki is so appalled. She's like, I'm fucking leaving. I think she left in an Amazon truck is what it looks like. She was leaving in an Amazon truck. Now, it was Art Basel, so maybe it was just an art piece. Oh, yeah, sure. It was in a real car. It was an Amazon art piece. Who knows.
Starting point is 00:55:43 But Kiki, yeah, freaks out, doesn't even want to deal with it, leaves, not dealing with this shit. Probably the right move. At all. definitely not doing this. And in a moment that could have been Adriana and Julia coming back together, they were just going to maybe lock lips, maybe eyes, boobs, that's what they were talking about.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Nope. Nope. Because Julia's going to sit her down and explain to her, one, which she is right, Kiki never called you racist. Very important. And Adriana takes that as, of course, you're defending Kiki. You never have my back. That's not what she said.
Starting point is 00:56:16 She just clarified a very important point that nobody ever said this and the fact that you're repeating it about yourself. Not a good look. When you say, let my black friend Carol tell you that I'm not racist and then you keep repeating, I'm not racist, inherently, some people are going to question whether or not you're racist. People are going to question why you're in this situation, and did you do something racist? The whole time, she keeps going. I'm like, oh, stop.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Somebody stop her. And she, like, her friend Carol, I thought, handled herself as well as she possibly. Because she's like, no, no, not at all. Like, I think she was just trying to, like, direct it somewhere else. Adriana being who she is. Adriana is asking leading questions. Yeah. And, like, the way that Adriana is when she gets stuck on something, as we saw with Marisol and the yacht party with the two boats, like, she is relentless.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And she just keeps saying, you know, all of these stupid things. It's getting worse and worse. Gertie is trying her best to be like, dude, shut up. Also, nobody said that. you're saying it and now we're starting to have questions about you and it just devolves from there. I just literally wrote oof in my book. Like massive oof and the whole point of this whole thing before that came up was Julia wanted to reconcile with you instead she tells you do to and honestly like when we get the clip last week all they showed was you're not fun anymore
Starting point is 00:57:39 and I was like that's really mean in context especially in this context you're not fun anymore because you're always so negative. I'm like, yeah, probably. I do get it. Yeah, probably. The way that we've seen Adriana turn these last couple of episodes gives you a peek into what she's actually like, and I get it. And look, again, we're enjoying Adriana this season.
Starting point is 00:57:58 If I had to hang out with Adriana all the time, I think I would lose my mind. Sure, I get that. Because she is like that. She is incredibly negative. She always wants to talk shit on people. We've seen this for seasons now. She has such a stick up her ass about Marisol and Alexia that she's always going to throw them under the bus.
Starting point is 00:58:12 She's always going to talk about how bad. they are, whatever. Now you're friends with those people, and I get it from where Julia is coming from. I have defended you a million times, and it always makes me look stupid. Now I'm just done. I want to be friends with these people instead of just being friends with you. I get it. I fully understand it. Adriana does not. To the point that when Julia comes back, just to see where Kiki had gone to, she's like, I think she left. Why are you protecting her? That's not, that's not She's just informing you that the woman you just accused of calling you racist has fled the scene because she doesn't want to deal with this bullshit, nor does anybody else. Us at home, like, it was like a train wreck.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I couldn't stop watching it. I had to write this line down from Adriana herself. You want Carol who's black to give her opinion? No. Ah. What the fuck? What are you doing? I think the best part is.
Starting point is 00:59:10 But I think the best part is, again, with the comedic timing, Kiki was about to tell Adriana and she did it too. And to be fair, it's Adriana, so it probably would have played out the exact same way. It would have gone the same direction. It would have gone the exact same way. Because she would have immediately said, I'm not racist. I'm like, whoa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:29 What? Yeah. And that just kind of goes to show you that this has been festering in Adriana's mind. Because somebody planted, or she planted that seed herself. Like, she very well might have learned what Ratchet meant and been like, oh, God, I hope I'm not coming off as a racist, let me get ahead of this one by... She could have done it yourself. Look, she's very astute.
Starting point is 00:59:46 We know that. So maybe she just dove into some books. Well, we know that she's book smart, but not street smart. So, like, that would lead to this moment. If you, like, do too much research and you're like, I know how to get ahead of this one. And then having no street smarts, you go into this party. Yeah. No social skills whatsoever.
Starting point is 01:00:02 And this is how you handle it. Yeah. You bring your black friend with you to clarify that she's not racist. Correct. To a black woman. Poor Carol. Wow. throw her in a visitation.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Just wow. And give her zero context, by the way. Just leading questions. I said wretched. Is that racist? It's not what it came across. That's not what it looked like when it happened. I think most of us at home had this similar, like, ooh, when you said it originally.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Like all of us at home are like, e, not great. Not great. My initial reaction was you don't know what that word means. That's what I thought. You don't know what it means and that comes off not the way you think it does is where I went. This didn't help that. No. You learned what it meant.
Starting point is 01:00:40 and now you're defending yourself against nobody literally yeah this could have been chalked up to a oh that was kind of mean yeah and kiki going to kiki and been like that was fucking mean why it hurt my feelings it hurt my feelings and then she would have explained it and you could have accepted or not accepted her apology or and then moved on to your nice fun party at art basil but it said you did this at an event you're hosting yeah what does chris rivers think about this he's probably gone what the he met way too many housewives and he's out of there oh My God, dude, yeah, it was just an electric episode. So much happened. It was so good. I was not expecting that ending. I wasn't expecting 90% of what we got this episode. It was exceptional TV. This might have been the best episode of the season.
Starting point is 01:01:27 And just, wow. Like that, yeah, we kept hinting at all episode just because, like, I was waiting for it. Just couldn't wait to talk about it. Yeah, because it was just like literally watching a train wreck. And you're just want to stop it, but you can't look away. Yeah. And only Adriana could do it the way that she did it. For sure.
Starting point is 01:01:47 And it's setting up for the end of the season with her being center stage, which history tells us is not good. But it's late enough in the season. Late enough in the season where we don't really have to worry about it too much. There's not a lot of ramifications other than reunion talk. And Andy being Andy is not going to spend too much time on Adriana. I don't think. Not to take away from, you know, again, like the beginning. of the episode, watching her do her thing was genuinely impressive.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Watching her do a thing at the end was really unimpressive. So, you know, what an episode. What a roller coaster. Glass case of emotions. Yeah, dude, that was great TV. Great TV, great show, great season. We are wrapping it up soon. I mean, soon is relative.
Starting point is 01:02:28 We still have five weeks because we've got three reunions. Yeah, I think we've got two episodes left in the three reunions. So we still got a good chunk of time. Excited to see how it wraps up. We don't have questions because we're doing this. Right before it airs, we do get the screeners for Miami. It's one of the few shows we get the full season of. So we're doing a little early.
Starting point is 01:02:46 But we will field your questions, probably in our members' Zoom at the end of the month if you have Miami questions or next week. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. Nope. That's our show.
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