Bros & Shows - Can Bankruptcies Be Vegan Too? (RHOA Reunion)

Episode Date: April 29, 2026

What's up bros? First question to everyone out there....what even is a vegan burger with bacon? We totally didn't get stuck on that for 3 or 4 full minutes in this episode. But please, if you can answer that, just let us know. Anyway, a lot of seeds are being planted for future disputes and we're here for it. Meanwhile, Pinky finally lets her husband in on her financial issues and bankruptcy situation and let's just say we're very happy with his response! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And I think I kind of appreciated it a lot more. And I don't think it's because of Derek. I think it's because of Pinky, but I just need a little time. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh, man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't know. need a spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma and yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good afternoon,

everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I am a co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by Nana's Chicken and Gooters. What's up, dude? I don't, no, nope, I don't let it. Not Gooters. No, am I the waffle, I guess, in that situation. You know what? I think when you say Gooters, I just immediately equated it to chicken and like gizzards.

I'm like, I don't. Okay. Yeah. I don't think I'm a big fan of gizzards. But. Right. They're not bad. Yeah, but you say that about everything.

Yeah. Because that's true about everything, every single ingredient on the planet, done correctly, except jackfruit. I have a tough time with jackfruit, even though you can make, the one that like makes you shit yourself if you eat it raw yeah but it's like they do jackfruit

it's a mock pulled pork kind of thing and if you do jackfruit right actually rescind that it does taste fine but the smell uh it's also called durian uh and the smell of it is just awful it smells like a mix between puke and poop wait so durian fruit that i get in legend of zelda is just jackfruit yeah how about that there you go wow Wow, wow, full circle. What are we talking about? We're talking about Atlanta. I don't know how we got here.

Let's try to track our way back through all of this. But enjoyable cast, really, really well put together cast on this show. Yeah, but like even for Shemia, it's like, I don't, I don't know. I'll wait until we get to the scene between her and her husband when she's getting ready. That was kind of very uncomfortable. Yeah, I don't know. See, like, I'm going to. going to try to go at that from a different way because I feel like last week I have a different

yeah yeah so I'll wait till I get to that scene for her in particular but even her if she's the weakest link that you have on the cast right now and you could argue that maybe even Kelly is but that's not really that weak of a link like neither of them are very weak links we just have very powerful stars on this show right now and we have a lot of the same stuff that we've seen from people like Portia. We've got some new involvement from other people. Like, Kay Michelle wasn't really in this episode, but that's fine because she's been doing a great fucking job for the whole season.

I didn't miss her, but not in like, oh, the episode was bad kind of way. I just missed her because I really like her. Yeah. Like this is for once, Bravo has done a good job with a ton of housewives on one cast. And it works really well where it's working how it should where if someone has something going on and you actually do have people who are stars in their own right, like Kaye, Michelle, who's going to go do something else? And I think that honestly, she's probably just finally recovering from all of the things

she was going through instead of coming out of the hospital and getting her nails done and then going to lunch. I think she's actually recovering. But that's okay because there are a lot of other things going on. Like Drew, not in this episode. That's fine. There's enough things going on. So this is actually really well done.

And we've seen this from Bravo a couple of times where they just have too many housewives and then friends of and everything. And it kind of gets diluted and it's all over the place. Everybody's kind of staying on town. which is what you want, and it's working really well. And I'm not seeing any cracks in the fall. I'm not seeing any sort of issues that are going to poke their heads up in the next couple of episodes like we usually like to do when we feel like we're getting ahead of

ourselves. This just seems like a good show that's going in the right direction. I agree. I think you covered everything, honestly. And that's the best testament to a good show is that you can lack characters or cast members for an episode and not miss, right? You don't know the episode, not necessarily not missed them, but the episode is an affected by it in a negative way.

Right. And that's tough when you have such a big cast. So that's a huge credit to the ladies of Atlanta because they're all showing up to work. And I think my biggest takeaway with most of them, not all of them, but most of them, is the authenticity this season. It does seem pretty genuine across the board. I think that's always the barometer of a good season versus a bad season on any housewife show is like if you don't feel like you're being played,

they don't feel like they're forcing shit at you and you're like what the fuck is this i think that is when you know and every single scene i'm like ooh i want more oh i want more so kadoos to them seriously yeah and there are some things like i don't want to completely gloss over like there's definitely some things that are being forced and it's from the people that you expect to force them mostly yeah yeah mostly Porsche but that's like her schick and she's actually pretty good at it so like i don't even care because there's going to be some components of every show even good or bad, where somebody's forcing an issue that just doesn't need to be forced. And Porsche is good at doing that.

Fager's doing a little bit of that. And I could actually like to see a little bit less from her when it comes to that, especially with Fager. Like that she's being herself. I know. She is being herself. I want her to do more things that Fager's very good at instead of just that. It seems like she's sort of taking a backseat.

But again, when you have a lot of things going on, it's okay to take a backseat for a little while. It's just something I'm going to keep my eye on. Like, all right, Fager, show up in a couple episodes. history tells us that she will because this is kind of her MO. She kind of hangs around, doesn't get involved. And then out of left field, she pulls a manila envelope or you get, you know, what was this name, Freddie Fingers or whoever the fuck came up.

Junebug. Jim, Junebug. Thank you. So that's usually her move. She's taking an interesting route. We'll talk about it. Let's dive it because we keep it. We'll talk about this.

Let's talk about it. it. Yeah, let's just do it now. So do it, do it now. We start out with Pinky and she is getting ready to throw a gift back event for the Pinky Cole Foundation at Slutty Vegan. And in the past, she has paid for students tuition to college. She's paid for rent for local businesses, things like that. So she is a big, big philanthropist. There's the word. That's a good way. And she likes to give back to her community. So that is setting up for later. But Kelly arrives. I did. have a question about the burger. It's, it's vegan bacon, right? She's like, this one comes with bacon. I was like, bacon, bacon or vegan bacon? Because then that also question the, the meat thing, that she's allegedly eating meat. I think what's happening is what actually happens with veganism. There's so many different things going on that you can never really nail down one thing. That's, that's the diet that you're supposed to be on when you're vegan. I think there's so many

questions and there's so many little like nuances, so many little like loopholes that you can get into that it's still technically vegan, but not. And I'm sure it's, it's sort of like religion. Let's go down this road. It's sort of like religion where, yeah, where, you know, there's minor differences, but you're still overall, you're a Christian, but there's minor differences that put you into Catholicism or whatever, Protestants, all of those things. But when you go to veganism, it's like, yeah, I'm a vegan, but I do this, this and this. And then usually it's like I eat cheese. was one vegan. Now that you say that, what show was it? That was Sutton, right? She was being vegan, but ate bacon. Yeah, okay. She was, she, no, I think she said she was a vegetarian and ate bacon.

See, that's what we're doing. None of it really made any sense. Correct. Yeah. And that's, you know what, I think we're all, you know, you and I'm not actually, but. I'm not actually Lutheran, by the way. No, no, no. I think you and I and probably the whole audience, we'd all just be better if we don't focus on what makes a vegan a vegan, because we're going to get confused. I think, obviously, Fager is kind of leading us down the path of, do you eat meat or do you not? That's more just the fact that she's on the board of Pita.

I'm not lumping that in with her veganism. I'm okay with this. We can just move on from all of the vegan talk. We had it out right here. We're good, I think. I don't know. We're going to get comments either way, so it doesn't matter. Leave it to us to get stuck on a very inconsequential moment of vegan bacon or regular bacon.

But anyway, Pinky sent. a group message to all the ladies, letting them, I actually really respect this move because we've seen shenanigans on this show in the past. Remember last season, What's Her Face? Britt showed up with like a pencil for the donation bin.

So this is a better way to do it. Hey, here's what everyone's bringing. And the price tag's big. I don't give a shit. Show up with $4,000 in formula. You're going to show up with this. I like the move because it keeps everything in order.

It makes me miss Brit Eady though Because I want her to show up with nothing I absolutely At all No no I don't miss her at all I actually You know Whatever she's completely fine

I had to look up what a vegan was Vegans don't do anything with animals at all No animal process Well I know that but like It there that's the whole thing They don't do cheese they don't do They don't do anything Anything that is related to animals

They do not So it's only plant based stuff. So it's all plant base is what they do. There's no such. Is there plant-based bacon? I don't want to know if that exists. Yeah.

There's plant-based everything. Here's the funny thing with that stuff. And then we'll stop. It's hard when we get going. Like the impossible meat, right? It's terrible for you. It's like twice your daily value in sodium. And it's why just eat a burger.

I get it if you're like, you know, animal cruelty and all that. If that's your angle, sure. But if you're doing it for health reasons and you're eating impossible meat, that's way worse for you than beef. But then isn't there the caveat of I am a vegan, but I only eat meat that's like sourced back to some sort of animal cruelty free. I don't think you can call yourself a vegan if you're that.

Okay. I mean, I'm sure people do. Let's be incredibly. I mean, I was a vegan and ate bacon or vegetarian. Yeah. Damn it. Let's just move on because this is going to happen over and over again.

Yeah. Anyway, Pinky still hasn't told Derek about the bankruptcy. see, you know, she's still under the mindset of I got myself in, I got to get myself out, which I respect to a certain extent. I'll talk a little bit more about that later. Well, you know what the funny thing is there's a lot of people online saying, why is she even claiming bankruptcy? Like, why is she even going to file?

Like, that's, that just seems ridiculous when your husband's worth over $100 million. I'm like, these, you don't understand how business works. Like, what is she? She's just supposed to ask her husband for a $5 million loan to bail herself out. I don't know. I don't even how it works. like let's take the business side out of it for a sec. I don't even think that's the root.

I mean, I think she's got a lot of pride. You know, she's built this thing up. And she also feels like she's infringing upon Derek and his finances and his business. So I actually don't think the business side of it is why she's not going to Derek. I think it's 100% like one, I'm embarrassed to even have to ask.

Two, I know I can do this. I don't want to go to him. And three, I'm fucking with your vibe, Derek. And you got a lot going on. I don't want to drag you down and she says later with my bullshit when you're trying to figure out your stuff. So I were yeah, move.

Like I said, I do have more to say about it later, but that's what I got from it. Yeah, I get the same thing from it too. And I think I'm pretty close to saying I actually really do appreciate the way that she's going about this because it seems very transparent. But right when I say and when I start thinking that it's very transparent and that I appreciate the fact that she's taking us on this journey because it does show the complete other side of business like we were talking about last week. where yeah, we see these housewives come up with stupid-ass businesses all the time. She's obviously well-established. But we see housewives and other reality stars come up with dumb-ass businesses. And we just kind of like bat our eyes like, I don't care about this shit.

You go to Pinky and it's like, no, this is the other side. This is sort of what Angela is going through too, where it's like, this doesn't always work. There's always going to be some weird thing, a hiccup that happens along the way, some sort of issue with whatever is being processed or whatever it might be. And then you're all of a sudden you're backgrimed. And all of a sudden you're filing for bankruptcy to try to get out of it. So I appreciate that she's walking through that. and I think that a lot of people don't really understand how that works.

So that's kind of what we're getting for the discourse online. But as soon as I say, I appreciate her being transparent. I'm thinking in the back of my brain, she's hiding something. Ah, shit, there's something in there. And I know, you know, current events, people are digging up. This is what happens in your house. Why people are digging up lawsuits and all the other things that are going into it, whether or not she paid the workers.

And if she still owes that money and all the tax liens and things like that. That's the big one, I guess, right now going around if you didn't pay people. I don't give a fuck if you don't pay your taxes. Who the hell cares? The way taxes are fucking distributed in this fucking country. But pay your workers. Pay the people that are doing things. That's the one hold up that I'm going to have.

But again, there might be more to this. So I'm, you know what? I'm not going to say it. But I do actually like this because it is a different type of storyline that's way different than like everybody else. Where it's like,

I've got issues with my husband. I've got issues with my kids. No, this is actually very real situation where it's like, yeah, I started with a small business, worked it all the way up. And now this kind of sucks because everybody's looking up to me.

and I don't want to be the one to let people down. Like I'm a role model for people out here. And if they look at me and they're like, oh, she's filing bankruptcy or oh, now she's getting sued because she didn't pay people. That really hurts me. So I appreciate that she's sharing that with us. And I'll stop right there. Yeah.

And careful with mentioning the tax thing because we're going to get some people saying, if you don't pay taxes or if you do that like Wendy does, then our taxes go up. No, they don't. Our taxes go up because we're forced to subsidize major corporations because rich people don't pay shit. That's what's going on. That's why your taxes are. not because Wendy and Eddie lied about luggage that they lost, allegedly.

Exactly. Anywho, the other thing from that, obviously, is Fadra going around talking about her eating meat, as we talked about. But let's keep moving to Mike and Portia, which this highlighted that, you know, Porsche's forcing things a little bit. And she does, and I do think that she does a better job of it because I'm kind of used to that from her. You know what I mean? so it doesn't stand out as much.

But this was just kind of a strange setup. Like it seemed like a weird scene to me. I don't know if you got that vibe or not, but I was just kind of like, what's going on here? Like, what's happening? I think that people have questioned her dating life so much that she's like,

I'm going to show you how lovey, do I am. I'm going to show you that I actually do snuggle in like, like people. Like I don't know. I have it even fun of your theory. I think this is just to stick it to Drew. I think that's what she's doing.

Oh, really? I like that too. I think she's showing like, hey, I'm dating and not only is she dating Mike, but she's also dating a woman. I'm going to show you me dating across the board. I'm just figuring things out. See how these people show up in person and they're around the group and I get to introduce them to people.

Drew, what do you think about that? Like, I do think that's probably going to be a comment later. If it's petty, I'm for it. Yeah, yeah. And again, this is what Porsche does. It's forced, but there's a reason why it's forced and you have to kind of read through all of that to figure out why she's doing something. And it's usually to stick it to somebody else.

A lot of times it's to stick it to somebody who's not even on the show, maybe an ex, maybe it's Dennis for all we know, and it might be Dennis actually with the scene we get later. That was fucking hilarious. I actually really appreciated that one, but it could be this or that or whatever. At any moment, Porsche is sticking

it to somebody, even if it's just somebody that we don't know. Yeah, no, that's a good point. But as they're talking about everything, you know, they're figuring out where they are in their current relationship and we're all So figuring out the house stuff because the divorce settled and she's listing her mom's house, this house that she bought in Duluth after her first divorce and it's got like a million dollars worth of equity and she's going to pull that equity out.

Got like three offers on the house, this, that, the other. So I like that she's making moves. She's trying to get her finances, everything lined up. And I will give Mike credit. Like I kind of think he's full of shit, but at least he listened. You know, he seemed like he gave her a giant peck to cry on, which who doesn't need that every now and then. But setting up their relationship, as we know, they're not together anymore.

But I'm curious, I, to me, it doesn't seem like end game regardless, but I wonder how much the kid thing got in the way because he wants like three kids or something. Porsche has done. Yeah. And she's like, is that going to be a problem? And Mike, I do appreciate this too as like straightforward. He's like, yeah, it might be a deal breaker. I'm like, okay, respect. Yeah.

And that's what all we really want to hear is just. Okay, cool. Are you guys in this for this or that? Or where are we going with this? Are we supposed to get on board? And obviously, you know, the way that things work nowadays, we see things play out that happened like eight months ago. And we know what actually ended up happening. So look, that might be the end of Mike as we know it.

And I'm completely okay with that. Yeah, I'm fine with that. Now let's get to Kay Michelle for a quick scene here. And this sets up the Dallas trip that we're taking because Cynthia signed with a tequila company or she is working with a tequila company. Is she a part owner of tequila company? Did she buy a percentage? Something like that.

She's doing the tequila thing while Shamiya's doing her rum thing. And they're having this big kickoff party in Dallas. That's where the tequila is based. So she invited all the girls there. We got another, this is a new trope that we have to get used to the past year. A lot of women that have not been on girls trips. We've seen this go very poorly because of the lack of pretext. girls trips. I'm curious if that's going to ring true for this as well.

I mean, it's going to. It always does. Like, there's there's no way to avoid it. I mean, we've seen this probably three or four times on different shows, not even just housewave shows in the last couple of years. Potomac, the Valley, I believe it happened on season one. Yeah, it just keeps happening. It's over and over again and it never goes well for someone involved. The other part of this is, I don't recall a Atlanta trip in the last like four or five years that has actually gone well where somebody didn't get pissed off. So no matter what, it's not going to go well. I mean, that's kind of what you want to. We're building some drama that isn't really being addressed head on. There's a couple of things, little things that needed to

be addressed like immediately, such as Porsche's comment last week when she was talking to Kay Michelle, that got addressed right away. But there's bigger things like the P. The thing's brewing. The eating meat thing. All of that shit is going to start popping off. I'm sure somebody's going to bring up what Pinky's going through with her bankruptcy. They're going to bring up what Angela's going through, buying a house and whatever else she's doing with the fan. So it's going to pop off.

It's just kind of what happens. But yeah, you're right. I've never been on a girl's trip before thing is always a bit of a cause for concern for that individual. Yeah, exactly. And I here's my thing with recent cast trips kind of across the board. underwhelming of late i want to see a good trip and like a good trip entails good times some some partying like going out great dinners it does of course include drama but i wanted to pop off organically i want the shit to hit the fan because it's time for the shit to hit the fan i don't want to

see because i feel like recently on a lot of housewife shows we've gotten to trips we we have been teased in the trailer for months. That, oh, this is crazy. What happens here? And we get there. It's so forced and underwhelming. I want Atlanta to continue this trend of really stepping up and setting the bar higher. And I think they could do it.

I think this cast is going to be a blast on a trip. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. So I have high, high hopes for this. I hope I don't get let down. But that's why I called out the Kay Michelle thing. So I'm like, ooh, I don't want this to go bad. I really want this to be a great. great trip. Yeah, and also I'm kind of over domestic trips. Like, they're boring. I'd rather

them just not even go on a trip. Yeah, we can do that, right? Like, we can go in the U.S. Yeah. We go somewhere we can't. The standard has been, especially for bigger franchises, for the housewives, let's go to one domestic place and then we go to one place abroad. Like, no. And look, maybe it brings up the production value of Bravo or they stretch too thin. Can they not afford to send these women on cool trips? Maybe. That's a possibility. But I think, again, We talked about this last week, and I vaguely remember, I think they go to Scotland. So they're doing the same thing. They're doing the let's go out.

We'll go somewhere domestic, which like going to Dallas means fucking nothing to me. You've been to Dallas. Dallas is a boring city. I'm sorry if anybody's from Dallas. Yeah, Dallas is a boring. I was saying Dallas and Fort Worth have significantly stepped up in the past decade. They are. Fort Worth is the cleanest.

It's the cleanest city I've ever been to, Fort Worth. That is by far away the cleanest city. I know, but it is incredibly clean. Dallas, Dallas is boring as shit. I don't really care. But that being said, I want to see things pop off. And the only way for them to pop off is not going to Dallas.

It's putting them in a fucking house together in like the Cayman Islands. I don't care. Send them down to the Caribbean and make them stay in a house together, not go to Dallas where they can just fly home in two seconds. That's what seems to happen, especially on those trips or like going to Sedona. Like, it's just, it's boring to me. Bring back cool trips for the housewives. Do you know when that started?

Jen Shaw not being able to leave the country? Yep. Yeah. Salt Lake City had three straight seasons of only going ins. They went to where they think that. I think they went to Puerto Rico the one year, right? No, I know they went to Scottsdale, yeah. But I remember them being like, we're so happy to finally be getting out of the country.

It was Puerto Rico. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Someone said we're leaving the country. I was like, not really. No. Yeah.

Just go to the Super Bowl halftime. you know. Yeah. Shocking news to a lot of people apparently. Bad buddy. U.S. citizen from Puerto Rico. Jesus.

Anyway, before we go down that rabbit hole, let's get back on track here. The one thing that Kaye, Michelle is keeping in mind is she's good with Porsche, but she sees how Porsche moves now. She's seeing how the group moves overall.

And she's starting to, that's what you really want to see from newbies, is then key up on these things early so that they're aware, so they don't, get steamrolled as we start getting into some shit. I think Camichel is going about it the right way. But anyway,

Porsche, Fadre and Angela are going to a little spin class. I don't know personally what spin classes take pauses in the middle. I think that's ridiculous. What are we doing here? Stay on the damn bike. It did seem like a long-ass class. Like most of those workout classes are what,

like about an hour. 45, 45, 10 hour. 50 minutes. Yeah. So they, I think they were an hour in. And he was like, nope, we still got some time to go. And we're like, what kind of workout class is this?

They didn't expect. Which is very funny, honestly, admittedly, them going in thinking like, all right, we'll do a quick workout class. This is very typical for a housewife show. Oh, fuck. This is like, what did you sign us up for? You signed us up for like the hardcore class. Jesus. We're done.

All right, you guys can go take a break. Go over there. Take your fucking cameras out of here. Let me get home with my class, please. Do you, did you see what it was called? No. Well, I saw him. I can't remember the trainer's name, but it was

Scott sexy, sexy trainer or something. Hot trainer. Hot trainer. Yeah, hot trainer. And then at first I'm like, oh, is the name of the place called hot? Is it hot cycle or? No, nope. They're just saying that he's hot, which we have eyes.

Yeah. We can tell a little dude's hot. Yeah, smoking hot. It's called drenched. Oh. Yeah. Huh. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Could have done without knowing that. I didn't love it either. I just, I figured you'd appreciate that in a not appreciative way. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But anyway, we get the mid-class pause and Fager Angela drama is being discussed.

And obviously, Angela has decided to take the high road here and apologize to Fadra. This was a cause for concern for me ever so briefly when Angela was like, I didn't forget anything. It's still at the forefront of my mind. I haven't forgotten a thing. I'm like, oh, we don't have to go back down this road. Like, this is one that we can leave last season. That was, that was part of the, the shit show that was Kenya and all of that crazy shit that did not work.

Fager coming at the last minute to try to help the show in some kind of way. Of course, Fager is the one that orchestrated this whole thing in some way, shape, or form. She was involved at the very least. That's okay. Like, it's fine. It's done. We do not need to talk about Junebug again. Like, this is the only thing that's happened in this entire.

season where I'm like, oh, no, please no. And it's only going to make me more irritated, too, because Angela has said multiple times, I'm done with it. Fager has said, yeah, you know what, I wasn't involved in any of that. Let's just leave it to where it is. The more we continue to talk about it. And yeah, it's mostly Angela talking about it. And I guess producers are probably asking her.

Sure. I don't know why the production team thinks that we want to continue to revisit this. That's my big issue here because I don't really think like, yeah, obviously in the beginning of the season, there's some unresolved issues. Angela talked about it. She said she was going to move on. She's going to keep an eye on Thadra. Whatever. Let's not revisit it, though. Like, that's okay if she keeps an eye on Thadra. Something else pops off that's completely different. She wants to use that as an example to try to relate back to it. I'm okay with that. But just rehashing it, why? There's no reason to. There's so many people on this cast now. We don't need to rehash. The only way I'd be okay with

it and I still wouldn't be thrilled because I just don't want it to come back up. If she's She has receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots, all of that. We agreed that we were done with that. Sorry, it just came out. Yeah. But it's okay. Yeah, Heather, Heather killed that. But if she has like notarized documents where it's like, boom, I got you red handed,

fine. Okay, let's touch on it and then move on. But I do not want to do the, well, I found something that was a little interesting. Pedro, what do you think about this? And then we go back and forth. No. We get stuck. No, we get too many good people on this show to get stuck on Junebug.

Yeah. And there needs to be a team at Bravo that has a like a rolling statute of limitations for stuff like that where the team decides, okay, this is not interesting. The fans are not engaged in this. If it comes back up with hard evidence within this time frame, we will talk about it. If there's hard evidence after the time frame, we will not talk about it. That's where it should be. If it's a huge issue and we talk about it three seasons after it happens, absolutely, go for it. we're still engaged.

This, we're not. And I don't think anybody is. Like, nobody gives a shit. It was a complete mess at the end of the season. We should be moving on and acting like it never happens and hopes that it doesn't recircle, but I don't know. I agree with you. I got a little cause for concern because we keep going back.

And again, it's not just Angela. It's them asking her questions. Like, what do you think about that? Enough. We're done. Yep. Exactly. Now, the pinky phager drama comes up.

And we have an interesting little wrinkle in here. Because the claim is that Fadre said, which I do think she probably still said this at some point off camera, but we don't know for sure. The Pinky's eating meat line actually was Fadra talking to Shemia and she said before she had sly vegan, before she was a vegan, she actually owned a Jamaican spot. And they did ribs. They served meat. That's it. That's all she said. And that's not damning.

That's just, yeah, she had a life before the vegan life. So that's all that was. And even still, like, the way that it works and what her husband does with the cheese steak restaurants, like, it doesn't mean that she's eating it. She just had a good business opportunity. Like, if she was a hundred percent owner, I wouldn't give a shit. I actually don't care regardless. But if you want to get stuck on this, that's not really anything to talk about and continue to bring up. That's stupid.

You could do the exact same thing and say, well, you're married to a guy who's peddling cheese steaks across the country. It's like, okay, that, yeah, there's a little bit of a moral conflict in there. If you want to look at that, then Pinky will probably have some answers to that. And then we can move on. But now the more that we find out about this, I care less. I know. It's just such a non-issue. Like, who cares?

But Fadre does bring up the fact, you know, I saw that she's laid on her rent and this, that, the other. So she is keyed in on the fact that Pinky's having money troubles. And I'm sure as if you're paying attention, to current events, like there is more stuff coming out relatively frequently. Like this is a pretty ongoing thing. I would imagine that in Atlanta, in their circles, there's probably a lot more going around that we don't know and that we're not hearing about. So I actually do like when this kind of stuff pops up.

So like, ooh, it brings me back to like a not rational place, but more of a, what's the word? inquisitive an inquisitive place because I really like Pinky and she sells me when she's talking I'm like, hell yeah,

I believe you. And that Fager kind of brings me back to back, well, there might be more to this story kind of vibe. Yeah, and I'm completely okay with that too because there is more to the story. As we alluded to earlier

and obviously all the ongoing is happening right now. Oh God, more ongoing. It's just part of my vocabulary now. Apparently that's a Rhode Island thing, by the way. Somebody commented on YouTube. and said, like, if you guys were from Rhode Island,

you would understand the ongoings. Oh, okay. Cool. Well, I mean, we're close to Jersey. That's close enough. But yeah, more so for me, I want to see because I like Pinky a lot so far, and I feel like, again, I use the T word, transparent. I want to see how she responds to this.

Because right now, you can get hung up on the fact that she didn't tell her husband, but I think it makes some sense, at least enough sense, where I'm not going to get hung up on that. But I want to see how she addresses it with the group, because this is kind of coming to a head where everybody else is finding out about her financial problems, what she's doing. She's trying to get ahead of it by talking to her husband later in this episode. So I do want to see how she responds because either one of two things is going to happen.

She's going to be very forthright and truthful and tell everybody what's going on and then probably have a bit of a kumbaya on like a little bit of a breakdown. And that's cool. Or she's going to just completely bullshit everybody. And I want to see if she's good at bullshitting because if she is, that's awesome. because that tells me that everything that I need to know about her being a housewife moving forward, if she's able to get away from somebody like Fager who knows what she's talking about, and she never lets on that she knows as much as she does because she wants to see how things play out.

I think it could be a very interesting chess match to watch moving forward. That's what I'm more focused on. This eating meat thing is just a means to an end for Fager to then talk to her about her finances. That's what's going to happen. Which is fine also. If that's the bridge to get there, like, okay, let's just move on from it a little quicker. But I agree with you. And I think that's, again, the mark of a good show is we get to really analyze like specifics,

like little things. Like, yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I love being able to do that. And that is a 100% testament to this cast. But moving on, we get to Angela. And you might love the fan idea. You might hate the fan idea.

It's kind of irrelevant to what I took from this scene. This is how you come into a business meeting prepared. Shemia. This is what she knows, like the questions that are being asked. She has responses. She has a plan. Again, you may not believe it's a good idea, but you can't deny that at least she's prepped for this fucking meeting, which I really appreciated. Yeah, she was very prepped for the meeting. She started off with a mission statement, moved into the finances, moved into the market. Like she knows what she's talking about. How much is to sell to recoup our losses? Thousand fans. Thank you.

What's our price point? Cool. What's our profit point? Cool. All right. What are we doing about this? Charles, 50K. Come on. Yeah. Come on. Come on. 25. You're on the hook for this. Yeah, I know. But even still, again, Charles being at that meeting was kind of like an eye opener from, not an eye opener. I was surprised to see him there. When we pan across and it's just Charles sitting at the end of the table, I was like, oh, shit, what's he doing here? Does he even know about this? Does he even know about the house that you just bought? No, probably not still.

But, you know, it's okay. Uh, yeah, it's fine. I'm completely okay with it. I think the schick has definitely run its course for me. But if, she turns some sort of a profit. That's a win for her. And I think she needs a win in the business world. So go for it. I think that's kind of where this stemmed from, honestly. Yeah.

I think this is all like a easy win. Like I'm investing a very low amount, you know, comparatively to what I would normally be investing in a property in real estate. I've got a team that's kind of everything's all sorted out. We'll sell it here. We'll sell it here. We'll sell it there. We'll get, make a profit in like six months.

Like that's all it is. She's not going to make a killing on these fans. She's going to just some. how get into the black and then she's going to look at it as a win. And that's what she needs going forward. So I think it ties in nicely to everything else that's going on. I agree. And I also think, you know, Charles is rough around the edges, sure.

But we've talked about it a lot over the past couple of years. I do believe that he really loves his wife. I do believe he's supportive of his wife. And I think it seems like this, he literally does it in real time because he makes a little dig. He's like, oh, another one of your projects. Okay, I got you. Period. And that was it.

They like shake hands. And I think that's just their dynamics. So. Which is kind of funny too. When you flip it over to like you said with Shamea and you're talking to Shemia and Gerald, he wasn't unsupportive of her. He was just telling her it was a shitty investment and she wouldn't listen. So for anybody that wants to compare the two,

which is probably what they want us to do while watching these two scenes back to back in two episodes. Gerald was being supportive. He wants her to be able to make money off. of something and that was a loser of an investment, which I'm sure she'll be scrapping in the next couple of episodes, but that'll be a tough watch, actually. I wonder if they're going to have us watch her FaceTime that group down there. I feel so bad for that poor company. I died. So do why. I mean, I hope they're okay because the other thing is housewife shows giveeth and they takeeth away. They are taking away, but that's probably for the best because she may doesn't know what the

hell she's doing. Other people might watch this and say, how do I invest for them? Because they're, they're feeling the same way as we are. So they're like, all right, maybe when I'm down there, I can go pick up something from their store or like whatever. It gives them a little bit more of a spotlight. So I'm hoping that that's a good buy product from all of this because Shamea has no idea what she's doing. Yeah, me too, because I feel really bad. And I'm sure the premise when, when she offered this or when she approached them, they're probably like, oh my God, a real housewife wants to partner with us. It's so much, so much camera time, so much free advertisement.

Like, this is a great idea. And then she's coming in with butt bottles and peaches that you can't grow in Grenada. So that was probably a very sobering conversation after that FaceTime for them. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure it was. Well, anyway, we'll keep on moving. And we get to Pinky, who's setting up everything. And, no, that's no matter.

Banana. But we're getting ready for Pinky's give back thing at Sluddy Vegan and we check in with Fager and Porsche. And they're talking about Angela and Pinky and all that stuff going on. Fager's take is, you know, Pinky's got these issues with me about me going around telling people she eats me. She didn't pick up the phone and call me, which I actually like, you know what? That's fair. It's a reasonable request. It could have been squashed a long time ago if she had because you have a response.

And we got camera footage of it. Roll the tape. But the interesting thing is, and this is a very fadre-coded scene because on one end, she's saying, yeah, I have no issues with her. I haven't been saying she eats meat. On the other side, she literally has a bullet point list of Pinky's finances and knows exactly what's going on there, to which I ask. And this is a question for Fadra kind of overall when she gets involved with things. Why?

Why do you know all that? What do you do by the scenes? Like I do you look at it more like she wants to go after Pinky for this? Like she already had like strategized. Or is it more I'm prepping in case something pops off and I need to do this? Is it like a break glass in case of emergency situation? Or is she just not not fabricating? That's not the right word.

But is she like conducting a research on a person because she plans on doing that for the show? Because I don't think that anybody's going to do this like in your day. to day unless you have beef with somebody and you want to do it like that's fine but if it's just somebody in a group that you're kind of hanging out with why do this it doesn't make a ton of sense to me so i'm a little worried that it's again just built for the show i'll hold out judgment until it plays out because it's going to but i i don't know it's just not a tactic that i really care for no it's kind of i mean you could apply that question to phaedra for her entire tenure on housewives Is this, was this pre-planned or were you played on going after her?

Was this a defense move? Like, why? You can just ask why a lot of the time with Fager. Like, what's the purpose of this? I don't really know. I don't know why she wants to attack. That's a strong word. I don't know why she wants to question Pinky's finances so hard.

Then I'm thinking that's so early talking shit. Yeah, right? Like, has Pinky talk shit about Fadra? Like, are we missing that part of it? Maybe we're missing that part of it. But even still, if you are Fager and you have this list and you already understand what's going on, why are you divulging the information to us so early? Hold on to it.

Every time that I try to figure out what she's doing, it doesn't really make any sense. And then unfortunately, when it does actually pop off, I'm like, oh, that was kind of ill-conceived. It doesn't really make a ton of sense to do that now. Yeah, like saying to Fadra, or sorry, saying to Portia, where she's like, yeah, I didn't say that. I have no problems with her. I like her.

and then ending the conversation with, oh, we're going to Edgewood. That's the one in bankruptcy. What not to do with your business and your money? It's like, oh, that's shady. Yeah. It's shady for like no point. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. But we get to slutty vegan and Derek has to balance because he has to go change his clothes, which I wish he had said for dinner. He literally just says, I have to go change my clothes? And the big question is, have you told about the bankruptcy? Fuck no.

Absolutely not. Is that a trick question? Ha ha. No, I haven't told them. But watching K. Michelle start to figure out the game has been very entertaining because she had the question for Kelly where it's like, why did you sit there and take that shit from Portia?

Then she went through it. She's like, ah, now I get it because she's got some sneaky shade. I didn't even know I was getting shade until I thought about it later. And that's exactly what happened to Kelly. So now I'm curious, are we going to get a K. Michelle Kelly, Pinky, Angela. I don't know if Angela's

going to be involved in that. She might float. I think Angela's going to float. I think that she's got her own unresolved, unfortunate issues with Fajara. I think Shimea is going to be involved in that, whether she likes it or not.

She'll be seeing this episode anyway. But no, I don't know. I'm not really sure where Kay Michelle's going to end up because I do think she's very strong and independent. So I could see her just kind of taking a crack at it by her self first, seeing how that goes. And then if she needs the backup, she can go that way. I do also think that once all of this starts coming out,

you're going to see people like Kelly kind of latch on. Shania kind of latch on because it's like, oh, coattails. These are going in the right direction. Let me follow those. So I do think that that's more along the lines of what we're going to see. But I don't know. I'm still trying to get a good read on Kay Michelle because she's very enjoyable,

but as a housewife, I want to see how she does certain things. And that's kind of what we're getting to in this season. We're setting a lot of things up to see what kind of performance we can get from the newbies. Yeah, which is good. I mean, that's the structure you want is to watch it slowly kind of bubble up and then six, seven episodes in. Boom, shit hits the fan. That's perfect. It's good time.

Oh, God, I do it every time. It's so unintentional too. I hate it. Seven eight. I'm going to start saying seven eight. My big thing with Porsche, this is kind of indicative of Porsche, like making issues out of non-issues because. She walks into a place called slutty vegan. And then she gets upset about being called a slut by the person that works,

by everybody that works there. And I know she wasn't like actually pissed, but she did make a stink about it in the confessional. Like this is kind of my point. It's like mountains out of mole hills. That's a nod factor. Why are you getting upset? And then later you're going to,

you're going to say slut to people. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really get it. I was more focused on the in the building aspect, which I really enjoy. enjoyed every time that somebody came in, they were announced and then everybody said in the building at the same time in unison. That made me feel great and I really want that to happen to me at some point. Otherwise, yeah, this is a non-issue that I don't really care about from Porsche.

Yeah, very interesting. But her and Kelly are completely ignoring each other. Kelly's sick. So she actually leaves early and then we get to the event. Yeah, I didn't love it. I was a little weak. That was very weak. Yeah.

Yeah. She should have stuck around. That raises a lot of questions. can you handle the groundwork too which again this is if i'm going to pick weak links i mean shemia she's going to be interesting to watch just because i she's just running around like crazy kelly bit of a weak link because she lays that groundwork she talks to pinky about it we obviously know that shemia knows what's going on and now it's like okay the whole group understands what happens Porsche sends you flowers you have this big thing it's very theatrical you throw out the

flowers and now you have a chance where you're seeing Porsche again and you'll leave even if you are sick, just tough it out for a couple of minutes. Yeah, I didn't love that move. Even like a comment just to, hey, I know that you and I haven't seen each other, we should sit down and talk at some point. That is so like just standard for these shows. And you can't even do that. You have to get away and leave because the other part of it is when Porsche sees that,

she thinks she's winning. And that's not really good either because you don't want to go against Porsche when she thinks she's winning. Exactly, exactly. Now, I do think that we missed. somewhere in here. Did we or was it later? Which part?

Yeah. Yeah. It's important to highlight that when Pinky and Kelly had talked earlier, Kelly is also planning on filing bankruptcy. So that's something we didn't know. That's based on opening the Silver Springs location. And she has a very similar story to Pinky. She was on the hook for these loans.

She personally guaranteed all of them. So now she's looking at a big, debt that she can't pay off. So now she's thinking about bankruptcy. So they have that to unite the two of them, which is very interesting. Bankruptcy sisters. Apparently. But anyhow, this is where I start to question Pinky, because I know that she's trying to

save face to a certain extent. She has a reputation. But when she says things like, you know, I got an $89,000 lawsuit, which I can wipe my ass with. But, you know, it's about my reputation. I'm like, well, that doesn't track. with what you've been saying in other conversations. That now sounds like you're saying something different,

which then makes me question things, which then makes me look at the big picture again and go, okay, what are you hiding? I could also just be like a sort of like a conflict of character. Like, do I want to come across as somebody who is so well established that I'm okay with this? Like, I don't really care. I can wipe my ass with this.

Or do I want to come across as being incredibly like forthcoming on what I'm going through and trying to reach the audience. It's unfortunate that this is how we have to think about things. But when you're sitting down for a confessional one-on-one, bringing us through all the things that are going on and telling us how hard it is and then coming right back and saying, yeah, I could wipe my ass with that. I don't know which side you're on. I don't know who you are. I don't know where you line up and it's probably somewhere in the middle, but don't try to do both because it's very confusing. We're still trying to get to know you. Exactly. Exactly. It just it raises questions.

And then we start looking further into things. Personally, I mean, usually I like my housewives with the latter. Like come into it and be like, yeah, I don't give a fuck. I can wipe my ass with this. I'm not worried about this at all. I'm opening this and this and this. I'm going to be fine. Cool.

I love the confidence. But I also do like that you're sharing and being a little sensitive about it. So just pick aside. Don't go into the middle because now I don't know what's going on. Yeah, it's a little bit confusing. But we get an answer to the meat eating comment because Shimea, Thadra, and Pinky are all standing around and it comes up. And Fager's like, I never said that, by the way.

And Shemia standing there goes, yeah, you did. I love that Fager's like, roll the tape. And we do. And sure enough, that was not said. That goes to kind of Shemia, her entire season so far. All I see is her running in circles trying to be relevant. Try to figure out a way to crack into a storyline or make us care about something. That's all I'm really getting.

And like that's what that weird scene with her. and Gerald earlier, which we forgot to talk about. Yeah. Whatever. Whatever. I'm actually happy that we didn't have to talk about that. Whatever. That scene was again, more of the same of her forcing. Like, yes. All right. We're going to sit in this room. I'm getting ready. I just want you to tell me that I look great.

We're going to talk about a couple of things. Just be supportive. And he's like, I don't want to go to this. I don't, I'm not going to Dallas as a plus one. You can check it on the company. I don't need to. Why don't you go check in for me? I can call them. I can email them. He's got, he actually does have about 50 different things going on at one time. And again,

we said this. Like, I still view him as supportive of Shimea. And I think he would be if she wasn't on this show. I would like him to come off a little bit more supportive. He comes off like he doesn't give a show. Yeah. It's one of those situations where you don't know how many times they've had this discussion.

And she's like, oh, that's good. Let's do it on camera. So I don't know. I felt bad getting into that last week because I hate doing that with housewife shows. But it is probably what's happening. Now, with Shimea in this instance, this was very much like, did somebody say my name?

Oh, I was there. Let's talk about it. I didn't say any of those things. What are you talking? We're not saying anything about you. You just happen to be around for a conversation. We're asking you to corroborate a story. That's all it actually has to be.

We don't have to go any deeper. My bigger issue was pinky during all of this. We're not doing that here. We're not talking about all this year. Just shuts it down. Wrong show. You are on the wrong. I know what you're doing.

is for charity. I know what you're doing is great and it's an event. You're going to have to get used to these things. So do not shut this down. Yeah, homeless, not toothless. Their charity event was ruined by by shenanigans.

It just happens. And I'm pretty sure a bunch of Bravo fans ended up donating to that because they thought it was super funny and they wanted to do it. And they actually felt bad that the whole charity event got sidetracked for their own entertainment.

Like that is actually what Bravo fans do. So it's okay. You'll learn. I just, I didn't like that she did that because I thought we were actually starting to get somewhere. Yeah, I did too, but some more beef comes up between the two of them because Shemia went on a podcast and was asked, who would you rather be the godmother to your

children? Would it be Cynthia or would it be Fadre? And she answers Cynthia because of Noelle, this, that, da, da, da, I didn't take offense. I didn't see it being offensive. I thought it was a response. I guess if you read further into it by acknowledging Noel is so great. That's what it was. Maybe you're, you're alluding that. It's too much.

Okay. You got way too specific. You used examples. And once you bring up one child's name and you start using it as an example, then you're bringing into the question what Fager is doing with her kids and why that's not the same. So she just spoke too much, which is,

this is a very big recurring theme on these shows is people talking on podcasts. And it's always, again, And it's a podcast. I mean, you're going to say more than you really want to because you just want to fill the dead error. And I get that. But you always get yourself into trouble when you answer the question too much. Just leave it at, I'm closer to Cynthia. I feel like she'd be there absolutely.

And if Fager has a problem with that, then she'll address it. And then you can just say, I'm closer to Cynthia. What's your fucking problem? Yeah, it makes sense. It's ironic for Fajer to say, I'm keeping my eyes on Shemir, though, because she will spin what people say and turn it around to cause confusion. I was like, yes, you will, Thadre.

You sure will. You're doing it right now. You traitor. Oh, boy. Oh, nice. Because of traders. Yeah. Good.

That's what she was so good at. Now, I would be remiss to not mention the Moripovich cut in because apparently Pinky was a producer on that show or something along those lines. And I love that we got the follow up because she says that. We don't know. Like people could say all sorts of things. And then fucking Mori, of all people,

you did not eat meat. I was like, hell yeah, Mori. We said that you were dead last year. We did. Yeah, we did say he may have died last year.

We also did that with Fred Durst this year. Yeah, he's very much alive. He's alive too. Yeah, we have a bad track record with that. But it's okay. Because then we find out that that person's still alive.

And then we go look and we're like, oh, wow, they're doing great. So I want more of that. I'm going to claim that more people are dead. Yeah. And we tell you guys that we, or stupid and wrong.

So, you know, it's a cycle. It's a cycle. But the episode ends with Portia and Lauren. Her sister, I guess, no, this is right before the end because we've got to check it with Derek and Pinky at the end. But Portia and Lauren are talking and Dennis shows up. Obviously, we know Portia and Dennis's situation has a lot of weird dynamics to it. You know, they were together, then they weren't together.

Now they're co-parenting. they're very, very, very close. But it's just weird. It's a very strange dynamic because they're setting up a podcast. She's starting up her old podcast, Portia for real. Or is that what it's called? I believe it's called that. And then they're starting another podcast.

I'm assuming about co-parenting is the vibe I got from it. But then it got confusing because it's like, well, PJ wants this, this. And I was like, is PJ in the podcast? Like, what's going on? I think what she was doing, you have to kind of read through the lines through all of this. I believe she was building a podcast studio that was also going to be a playroom. So it was sort of like a multifaceted room because it was just sort of an empty room, which kind of makes sense. So it's multi purpose.

It's multi purpose. Yeah. And I'm completely okay with that. It was very funny to me to watch Dennis just walk around like, oh, where did you get this flat? What was on that note? And Porsche is playing very coy, throwing it out. She pulled it off and threw it on the counter go, what note? Yeah, what note?

What are we doing over here? This was funny to me. I think that their situation, their relationship is always fascinating to me. Because we went through so many weird things last year. I didn't care for the shit that we went through last year where it was like, are you doing this with Drew or are you not doing this with Drew? We never actually found out. So that sucked. But this is way more fun because this is honestly, if you're going to look at it from a podcasting standpoint, you're now marketing your podcast.

If you show the two of you kind of goofing around and him grabbing the sign from the flowers and putting it on his drink and walking in there like he doesn't have it. And then Lauren takes it and runs away. It's playful. It's fun. It's goofy. I'm completely cool with all of it. Honestly, I think that that was a fun takeaway from me. Yeah.

No, I mean, the scene is just watching their dynamic in real life. Like, that's all it is because they're obviously super close. So they obviously have opinions on each other and each other's lives. But given the circumstances, they should. have opinions on each other's lives and what they're doing and dating and this and that. But they do, which is fun because Dennis is telling Lauren like, hey,

she needs to have somebody help her picking dudes because she's terrible at it. That's funny because it's like, Hey, ironic. Hello, look in the mirror, bud. Yeah,

it was just a fun scene to just kind of watch the banter back and forth and watch what is probably forever and always going to be kind of a strenuous, awkward yet comforting relationship. for the two of them. But that takes us to the end of the episode, which is Pinky and Derek. And I love how nonchalant she brings up the bankruptcy thing because she's literally like,

so I met with the bankruptcy attorney. It's like, you didn't tell him you were meeting with that. It sounded like she was following up on something they'd previously talked about. So I met with the guy, by the way, and he's like, what? Why?

What to file for bankruptcy? Why? The fuck's going on? Like, what do you mean? Like, all of this stuff starts, starts coming out and and Pinky's explaining what's going on like, you know, I'm in the hole and I got to do this. I got to do that.

I want to do it on my own. He's like, well, how much? She's like about five million, which I'm going to say means like eight or nine million. And Derek's response was perfect because he doesn't get mad. He's more mad that she felt like she couldn't come to him. He's like, I'm your ride or die no matter what's going on. And I know that you, a strong woman. an independent woman, but I am here whenever you need me.

You can pick yourself up. I'm going to help you through it. I'm going to give you that $5 million. We're not going to a bankruptcy attorney. That's bullshit. Hell yeah, Derek. We needed a guy from Philly to show the fuck up. And you did.

I'm not going to do too much because I don't want it to go the other direction when we say a dude's great. And then something happens. I got this guy's a piece of shit. But this was a very nice scene. Yeah, this was a very good scene. And it played out exactly how you thought it would based off of where we were building with the two of their relationships. And I think he gets it at the end of the day.

I mean, she wanted to keep things separate and they agreed. And it sounds like they've got some pretty clear and distinct boundaries between their businesses and what's going on with their finances. So it seems like something that's kind of part for the course there for them, but also focused more on the fact that she felt like she couldn't tell him because it was more of a letdown. So now we get a little bit of a glimpse into how she feels about it. actually not the I can wipe my ass with that, but more a, I'm kind of going through it right now and I need to talk to you about this, but I was also worried about talking to you about this. And then he stepped up and that's what you want to see from Oz. He stepped up and to acknowledge the lack of her telling him, his thing is like, I'm going to

ride till the wheels fall off, but I deserve to know the truth too. I'm like, you do. That's fair. This is a very mature conversation that we're having here. And Derek, thank God, because episode one, I was very unsure episode two. I was like, okay, he's climbing the ranks. Episode 3, he dunked that shit home. So he sure did.

Very much appreciated. Well, let's get to some questions. Ah, first one up here from Rachel Ray. Where's Drew? Drew was not here. We didn't even talk about where she is, though. I don't know where she ended up going. Was there an option at any point?

No, she wasn't in it at all. I thought she was not feeling well. Oh, I don't know. I don't remember them even mentioning Drew this episode, but it's okay. again that's fine uh i did mention her but i do think it was uh like i said i think she was sick but i can't i can't really remember yeah uh from blacksmith trev is it mere dennis and portia perfect for each other in a way they are perfect for each other i think that's okay for them being co-parents i think

that's exactly what pj probably needs ah jennifer m2 m i want to like pinky but not sure if she's authentic thoughts. We're having the same feelings. We are having the same feelings. I do think she is, but I know that there is obviously things that she's probably hiding from the public, which you know, you kind of expect. I'm more worried about what she's going to present to us. And there was a little hiccup in there this episode.

So we'll see where that one goes, but I don't know. It's sin. Is Shemia Duddy all at all? I am loving Atlanta except for her. Okay, here you go. I'm going to frame it a little differently for you. so that she don't get hung up on those scenes. I'm enjoying those scenes because she's such a fish out of water right now,

trying to figure out how to crack this group and get back in. I don't see it as like, oh, I can't stand this scene. It's more so like this is kind of fascinating to watch because she is struggling right now, and she wants to be the spotlight stealer so bad. and yet every time she tries, it's so awkward and forced, it's almost uncomfortable. But that's kind of entertaining to watch. So she actually is doing her job unintentionally.

And that's actually entertaining to me. Yeah. Yeah, that absolutely is. Let's see if we got a couple more in here. A lot of people just asking where Drew is. Ryan Stom in 83, where was Drew? We don't know. People really miss Drew.

I think she was sick. I just don't know. People really miss Drew. Charles 96 is a too early for power rankings favorite so far. Let's do favorites so far because there's too many people on this cast.

Do top two. Top three. Top three. Okay, you keep expanding it. Where are we going? Top three. We're in top three. Top three.

I can't put Pinky in there because I'm still inquisitive. No, Pinky's not my top three. I don't think anyway. I'm going to say Angela, Drew, and Kay Michelle right now. Is that one, two, three, or is that just no particular order?

That's one, two, three. I'm going to go Kay Michelle one, actually. I've really enjoyed her. Angela three. I'm doing this in a strange way. Okay. And number two, uh,

I'm bled. Blanking, of course. Yeah, good job. K-Michel 1. I'll go Angela 2. Maybe that really threw me off. And then I forgot everybody's name. And then three,

there's probably a tie between Portia and Fadre, honestly. That's the most convoluted top three I've ever heard. I don't even know what you said at this point. I'm so confused. You just confused the hell out of me. I'll do my top 2. Probably everybody else. Top 2 is K. Michelle and Angela.

My number 3, we'll figure out later. That works. I know I already read something from Blacksmith Trev, but I really like this one. How sad is it that even the producers are tired of Kelly's failed reads? Yeah, that one read where she just did Horsha over and over again, and then she was singing it. Like, it's no, give us all of it because we need to see what she's doing. But no, I think it's funny. Last one here, because this is actually not a bad idea.

and we would be knowledgeable on the topic. April Champs, can we get a standalone Vrabel Rossini pod with a deep dive on the joint playlist? Oh, God. I know way too much about what's going on there. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, I would say, you know,

you try to strike while the iron's hot in our line of work over here, and it's still relatively hot, but it is not nearly as hot. We do know a lot pops off soon, yes. If something else happens, then we'll jump into that. Yeah. Bravo,

Bravo has kept us very fed for a very long time. I don't remember the last time that we've had a normal week, but we'll see what we can do. But, yeah, that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope, all good here. It's going to do a sign off, but then I did that. So they kind of like cut it off. It's just like, great show, loving the season, but then I fumbled.

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