Bros & Shows - Carl Wins the Gender Reveal! (Summer House Full Recap)

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

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Shut up up, dude, you're such a dumbass. Yeah, they are starting to eat up. It's a weird summer, as Jesse Solomon said. It's kind of strange. I'm enjoying it. Oh, we're enjoying it because when things get weird and it's not too clicky, it's not to everybody split up, people are all dating in the house, and it just seems too cozy.

When things get weird, I like to watch. Oh, I agree. I think that's when summer is the hottest. Yeah. Summer's supposed to be weird. I thought summer's supposed to be fun. I'm your co-host and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Brose and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows.

Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows. I'm your co-host. Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only, summer gooder. What's up, dude? Getting close to summer ourselves. Really, at all. I could say. Don't do that.

because it's going to be nice next week. I'm looking forward to that. That's a big thing. It's going to help out all the farmers out there. Shout out to the farmers. Yeah, always shout out to the farmers. We always do. We're a farmers-only podcast.

Our new sponsor, Farmersonly.com. Not really. That's a free ad, I guess. Oh, God. Yeah, but look, I love Summerhouse. I like it when it's weird. We talked about it in the intro. I like it when things are, you know, a little tense,

but like these are too heavy hitters. with Kyle and Page going up against each other, they can both hold their own in very individualistic ways. One being mature and a pragmatic approach, the other being an egotistical, fuck you approach? Correct. Yeah, those are the individual characteristics I was referring to. And that is fun to see because they have been at odds pretty much for like five, six years at this point.

It's been at bay because Amanda's in the middle of it. And they have such an interesting dynamic because of the Amanda part, Kyle and Paige, I would say they are friends, but it's always a high-tension friendship because of the outliers. Right. So it's very interesting. It is very interesting. And it doesn't seem like you would think the husband of Amanda in this situation would be cognizant of keeping her happy, maybe not having her up to sit into the middle of it. But it's the other way around.

Page is the one who's worried about Amanda's feelings and getting her in the middle of it. Kyle is only worried about himself. Correct. And there are some interesting points that he made this episode because we do remember, and I'm sure all of our listeners too, do as well from the summer when Kyle was on Watch What Happens Live, talking about the whole Seltzer thing with Craig. There's some things that don't really add up. The old Sprits mishap.

Yeah. So we'll talk about that. And the funny thing about Kyle is he could make a really good point, but he makes the really good point sound fucking awful. Yes. that you do on some like sub level you do agree with them but you'll never outwardly say oh yeah that's a good point Kyle because of the way he does it it's like you're such an asshole that even when you make a good point that I agree with I can't tell you that I agree

with you yeah he made a few and I'm like you're right but the way you do it is rude yeah like just talk we'll get there and I I wrote things down that he should have said instead well that's funny too because Paige even had that when she was in bed afterwards She's like, Craig said something really good that I can use. Yeah. Well, not anymore you can't use it. But, yeah. If it comes back up.

No, I didn't mean because they broke up. Oh, God, Jesus. I meant like, it's those shower thoughts after you have a big fight. You're like, fuck, I should have said that. That's what she had. I'm like, you can't use it anymore. But then immediately, I'm like, yeah, you might actually be able to use it again because Kyle's probably not done.

He's clearly not done. Not given the way he woke up. We'll see what got like happened. You never went to sleep. The poor guy didn't fall asleep. I got my own thing. You had heart palpitations. Stop.

Stop it. Let's get into it. We get poolside, and Bailey's not here, having trouble with the boyfriend or with production. That is going, I truly hope, and we're going to keep an eye on this. I hope that's the last mention of her. I think it's going to be. I think it's just, like, we have to make something up. Here, Lexi, why don't you just say that she's got trouble with a boyfriend or something?

Great. The last time that we spoke about this quote-unquote boyfriend, it was about luggage with an air tag, she was borrowing it, she didn't have a boyfriend, she's got a situation. now we're just like, yeah, full-blown boyfriend issues. She's not here this weekend. She was talking shit about the show and spilling secrets. She's having boyfriend issues, so she's not coming

to the Hampton's let off steam. Right. Cool. Got it. Yeah, I don't think we're going to hear about her again. I don't think we're going to see her again, but this is probably when she got the boot. We're going to do a little gender reveal scavenger hunt. And when I said summer's getting weird, this might be the weirdest summer in the summer house

only because of the dynamic setup with the Lindsay and Carl of. I'm going to say this right now before we get into anything else. The way these two are handling this is very impressive on both sides. It's incredibly impressive. I think Carl's doing a fantastic job of being supportive and not making it weird. I think Lindsay's doing a fantastic job of not making him too uncomfortable with some weird things. It's impressive. I can see it going a certain way, though, and you'll probably agree with this. The way that I think Lindsay's handling it is sort of ignoring it but like just kind of being pleasant yes the way that

carl's handling it is all right we kind of got through that first meeting now we're doing all this this is super weird but when he's going through this scavenger hunt he was a little giddy like excited to do all of this i think it's and he was even doing things like oh i remember that like yeah lindsay went out to the gate and he's starting to say things he's starting to be vocal about his dealings with lindsay if you will I think because Lindsay is being cordial and she's being pleasant enough, and we have a little exchange a little bit later about some N.A. champagne, which was nice. I think Carl's going to think that things are really good, and he's going to make a comment.

And he's going to be like, dude, back off. I don't think so. Because if you look back, like, she's still friends with Everett. She's still friends with a lot of dudes in her life that she dated. And it's just, Everett went to her wedding. Yeah. So I think I'm just waiting for something to happen. I don't think it's going to.

Yeah, then that might not happen. Maybe it's just like, this is such a weird situation that something's got to be weird enough that gets these people. Or she went to Everett's way. I guess she's not married. Yeah. She went to Everett's right. But like it would have to get to a point where like something's going to happen where one of them is going to say something wrong and it's going to upset the other person. Because that is normal to me.

Sure. All right. Yeah, you guys are getting a little too close. It's not a normal summer. It's not a normal summer. So I'm waiting for that other shoe to drop and it may never drop. Do you know what I'm waiting for? What?

I'm waiting for a conversation where it's like I am happy. like an actual real, let the walls down for four minutes. I don't know if that's going to happen. Where I could, the way that it's trending right now, I don't, I'm not saying it's like a guarantee. I don't think they owe it. I'm not saying that. I think that at some point this summer, you can clock this, could be wrong. I think because they're on this path and it seems to be nice and they used to be best friends,

they were best friends before they dated, after they dated, and then they dated it again. I could see there being a moment where it's just those two. And there is like, it's so fast, but it's like actual, I'm happy for you. Thank you. It means a lot. Like maybe even a hug. And then everything is fine forever between them. And they just go their separate ways.

Like, I would not be shocked if we have that moment at some point this summer. Ah, wait a minute. Because she did just take a shot at him on four months pregnant in July. It's so the baby's born. The baby's born. I just, I take that back. because after the Watch What Happens Live appearance of Carl where she was like, I thought you would be over this by her.

So whatever when she took that shot. Yeah, that's true. I was thinking like reunion, the baby's born, we're going to get like an actual nice moment between them where he like congratulates her. I'm skeptical now because of the recent watch happens live appearance. Yeah, I think that could just kind of like go away though pretty quickly. Look, I wouldn't be surprised.

We don't know what the hell's going on. And like we're trying to wrap our heads around it and we just can't. I don't think anybody can't because it's a strange situation. but it cracks me up, two things. One, Carl arguably wins the scavenger hunt because of his knowledge of years past. Like, it was so, he's like, oh, yeah, like, he's the one that goes to the box. He's the one that finds all this shit. It was really funny in a very weird way.

But it's also interesting to me that, like, Danielle continues to call out things about Lindsay. Like, you're supposed to be getting this friendship back to that. She goes, it would be nice for like the baby daddy was coming, but instead you have your ex-fiancee. You're like, that's weird. I was like, just let it lie, maybe. Just let it lay. Look, if she's just going to do it, she's going to do it. That's a good.

You know what I mean? At least she's not doing it out in the open. Doing in confessionals is one thing. Worry for her personally with her friendship with Lindsay, sure. Worry about the show standpoint? No. We've done enough worrying about like the vibe in the house. At this point, I'm like, eh, you know what?

Do whatever you want in the confession. Yeah, who gives us shit? But Kyle and Carl have a quick chit-chat. And I agree. I think this weird summer for Carl is actually helpful. helping him. I think this will help him move past it faster. I mean, obviously, Lindsay is past it, but it's almost forcing the issue. Like, yeah, you're taking part in the scavenger hunt. You're taking part in the gender reveal. There's a big, like, celebration dinner tonight.

I think it's just forcing it to the forefront. So you have to deal with it. I think that it's probably cathartic in a lot of ways. It probably is because he's forced to do it. He's forced to deal with it. Yeah. If he wasn't, then he would have left. Or if he felt some type of way, he would have been like, yeah, maybe I'll sit this one out. But then you make it about yourself. And I don't think Carl wants to do that right now. I think he's handling it really well. I think something that Carl said during this episode, and I think it was like right around here, maybe a little bit later, when he goes to his confessional and he talks about like how crazy last summer was and how wild it was for him to go through all of that and how much he just wants

to have a relaxing summer and just kind of get back to the normal, whatever normal looks like for him now. I think that is where he is and he's going to push himself through those awkward moments so that he can get to normalcy. Yeah. Because he knows that there's going to be plenty of awkward moments when it comes to Lindsay living there. It's a very weird situation. I think he realizes if he just pushes himself through, like an event like this, he'll be a lot better on the other side. It's going to be interesting to watch the whole summer shakeout, but Kyle brings up the

Spritz thing and brings up the fact that Hannah's now talking shit again about Kyle being the reason she was fired. You can obviously speak more to that. You were in tune with Summer House before I was. I wasn't there for all of that stuff, but... I love the flashback, dude. Oh, I did enjoy the flashbacks. back to like Hannah sitting there and then you get a look over at Luke who's wearing like some weird like cut off hoodie with like glasses on it's like oh yeah there's Luke I forgot about Luke until they showed that and then I I had one Hannah burner season but I think it might have been winter house she was with the gray hair yeah so that's the only experience I have with her but Kyle stuck on this shit where he's like I need to know where page stands yeah and he tells carly he's I rage texted her and he's like well like is she cool he's like it is what it is

It's like, it's not, it's not, you can fix this. It's very fixable. That's, also, the rage text did not say to me, I need to know where you stand. No, because if you said, I blame you for all this shit. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait because I have things, I have things I want to say about it. And I don't want to jump the gun. But we get the dinner set up here and we get a little, little private chef action.

Love that. A little shout out to him. And speaking of private, Turner, extremely, the only thing that we've seen of Turner is his hands. I'm sure there's pictures out there now. Yeah, maybe. It's just the hands. I don't care enough. I don't really care either.

Like, it doesn't bother me that I'm not going to do it for me. See what it looks like? Yeah, that's, oh, that's Turner. You have an idea. That's not for me. I do too. But that's the only reason I want to know is, like, am I right or am I wrong? We were, by the way, on the nose about producer Jeremiah.

Oh, really? Oh, my God. Good. Like, literally, to the tea. Hell, you nailed it. So I'm proud of that. But that is the moment where the N.A. Shamps comes out for Carl.

Oh, yeah. I got a bottle of champagne in there if you'd like it. He's like, N.A.? She's like, yep. He's like, thank you. She's like, you're welcome. That's all we need. It was beautiful. Nice exchange.

It was so sweet. I was like, oh, you guys, West Sierra, take a new. Yeah, I know. And again, I just hope that Carl's taking it in stride and just saying, wow, this is really nice. Enough. Not like a, wow, I can do whatever I want and just relax. I don't think that's the vibe. I hope not.

I don't think he's that dumb. Don't cross the line and like make a joke about your relationship or anything. I don't think he is either. I'm just waiting for it to happen. I just want it to happen. I kind of want it to happen. It's a different thing entirely. But we get to Danielle and Jesse, and this, it seems to be setting in a little bit on young Jesse Solomon.

What this situation ship he's got with Lexi is actually turning into. I think he's starting to feel the pressure a little bit. We find out later that he went out with Lexi and her parents. It's a weird situation, but it's a full-blown relationship. It's a relationship. It's 100% of relationship. But, you know, Danielle points out. I touched your shoulders outside

and I was like, oh, maybe I shouldn't do that because of Lexi. And he's like, if that's not okay, I'm in serious trouble. And by the way, that might not be okay. I might be in serious trouble. I appreciated the confessional. Okay, but again, this is a confessional after the fact where he's like, I'm willing to change

a little bit for Lexi, but I'm not going to change who I am entirely for somebody I just met. Fair. Yep. The way that you've handled it thus far, not totally fair. You are changing your way. jumped right in. Like you didn't,

you didn't slow it down that first weekend. You actually expedited things by agreeing to meet her parents. At no point have you given her an indication that you want to slow down. I don't think it's too late.

Like, I think if he addresses the issue now, it's like, it's like, it's only been a couple of weeks. It's not like you guys are... Yeah, I think that's the thing that, like, that tends to happen, especially on a show like this

where we're watching week to week, but it's, you know, it is week to week, but there are some weekends that end up being two episodes. It's only two weeks in. Yeah. Like, yes, it is fucking bizarre

that he's met her parents, that he went out clubbing with her parents. Sounds kind of fun, but still, bizarre. He had some missteps. He definitely took the missteps in there. But you can still have that discussion because it's only been two weekends. Correct. And it's only been 10, 11 days, whatever it's been, you can still sit down and be like, look, moving too fast. Let's try to figure this out right now.

Are we going for this? Are we going for that? Are we going just full-blown in? Because I don't know if I can do that. That's a fair conversation to have, even after meeting your parents, which is a bizarre situation. But it has to happen this weekend. You cannot wait another week. Or within the week in New York.

You can do it that. Yes. Before you get back to Summerhouse next weekend. Correct. You have to have that copy. Especially because you've brought it up. So now you have to address the issue. So I don't know.

I'm very, very much looking forward to that conversation in a fucked up way. But we get to dinner. And Kyle's trying to force the issue on Page. He's like, Paige, what do you think the baby's name should be? Page. What do you think the baby's name should be? He won't leave it the fuck alone. and that's kind of his issue in a lot of ways.

It's like, you know you're not cool right now because of the text you sent her. Don't force the issue at the dinner table when you haven't talked to me yet. You wouldn't do that anyway. Correct. Even if you didn't send her those text messages and you guys were all cool,

you wouldn't yell at her from across the dinner table and ask her a question like that? No, because that's weird. You just wanted to talk to you. You're forcing her in a big environment to address you because she hasn't addressed you yet and you feel guilty about it, maybe. But don't worry because...

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It's just the whole thing's moving. It's giving me anxiety. I would feel differently if they didn't have the meat sit down flower exchange with the mom beforehand. If he was like, hey, what are you up to tonight? She's like, oh, I'm going out with my sister or my parents. We're actually going to go into a club tonight. It's going to be kind of fun. That's casual.

That's casual. That's very casual. Like, hey, yeah, I know your daughter, like, we're on a TV show together. It's kind of fun. Leave it at that. That's a friendly interaction. Very friendly, little just pop in, by the way, if Lexi wants to tell her parents, like, hey, yeah, I'm kind of into this guy. That's on her.

She's allowed to do that. Jesse, you can stay the fuck out of that. Correct. The whole meeting happened before it. So it provides different context. 1,000%. That makes it even weirder. I agree.

But Danielle brings up, she's like, are you guys exclusive? And he's like, Danielle, you're so silly. We'll have that conversation. We'll get back to you guys. And then nobody's talking. so page calls out Kyle and I'm like fuck yeah like bring it up in front of everybody put them put them through the ringer page and she brings it up you guys you had a lot to say why don't you talk and he's like oh so you're mad like what do you think dickhead like of course she's bad because

you sent her a fucking rage text that somehow she's in the middle of this whole thing but she didn't fucking say anything so you're claiming to her that she's in the middle of it if anything else is not true. The one thing that rings true for Paige for her entire tenure on this show is maintaining relationships despite fucked up relationships on the side. She has not let Hannah Burner fuck up her friendship with Amanda and vice versa. She has not let you fuck up her friendship with Amanda, though you've tried so many times. This is what she's really good at is compartmentalizing and being a good friend to people. Like you cannot deny that she's ride or die for her peeps. So this is a crazy thing to try to stick her in the middle of it when she didn't say anything.

Hannah went on a podcast and dragged you. Craig did this whole thing with Spritz. She is not like telling them to do this. And the fact that he needs this validation from her of what, where do you stand? All she's going to say is it's none of my fucking business, dude. I'm not involved. So everything the page said in the situation from start to finish made sense to everybody. Just or logically speaking, it made a lot of sense to.

anybody who has ever been in this situation, or even if you haven't, it's how you would act in this situation. She's going through a situation where she doesn't like, and we've watched her for years, dealing with Kyle and Amanda, still being friends with Amanda, but not calling Kyle out for a shitty behavior towards Amanda, towards other women in the house, towards other people in the house, two page directly. She doesn't call her out because she doesn't want her put her friend Amanda in the situation. Correct.

Makes a lot of sense to me. Kyle can't see this. And the only thing that I can think is he's not going to go after her. Hannah directly because he doesn't want that smoke and he knows that if he texts her and messages her. He doesn't want the backlash on social. The backlash. Yeah. And I think there is a component which he brings up about how it's destroying his business and lover boy. And that's fucked up. And like, yeah, sure, that's going to happen when you're an asshole. When the person who's the face of lover boy is routinely an asshole to his wife and to other people on the show, people who invest in your

product, people who drink your product are going to look at that negatively. That's just what happens. whatever take a page out of Craig's book you don't want to be doing stuff like that while you're running the business because it's a bad look but he's not going to text Craig I think the only reason he's not going to text Craig is because he's afraid of him the oh you think I think he's scared of Craig interesting yeah not in like a business way I think physically I think he's just scared of Craig oh wow that's an interesting but that's the other thing you have an issue with Craig directly text him text him why are you texting his girlfriend that's a no idea I have no huge bitch move and that is not an issue with me and texted Dev I would drive to your

apartment yeah do you believe what your husband did he's such an asshole. That would be ridiculous. Yeah, that would be ridiculous. So the fact that he's not texting Craig directly, and you can say, oh, he doesn't have a relationship or a friendship with Craig, so he's not like that. He's got a problem with Craig. Talk to him directly. That's how it works. Don't berate his girlfriend who has only ever supported your wife and stayed out of everything else. Yeah, and your product and stayed out of everything else for your reasons so that she's not ruffling your feathers. He just doesn't see any of that. So it doesn't make any sense to me that he's not just going right to Craig unless he's afraid of him.

Interesting premise. I'm not sold, but I could see it. My one thing, I'm going to play devil's advocate now. Because when he starts talking, the reason that my ears perked up a little bit is because Amanda was vouching for some of the things that he said. So this is what you were talking about, where it's like he makes good points, but because of the way he goes about it, it's hard to agree with him. As he's running through the whole Spritz thing, okay, he says that at one point when Craig approached him, he said to Craig, give me a sec, let me see what I can come up with, and I'll get back to you.

The next day, Craig had invested with Spritz. So, Amanda pointed out that this whole thing has really fucked with the business, and if you look at when this all happened, Spritz really took advantage of this, and Spritz went on the offensive to try to drum up more press for them, more sales, for them lover boy took a big dip during this whole thing you know why it took a big dip what's up because kyle went on watch what happens live and bitched about it yeah but here's the thing okay here's my devil's advocate part some of the things he was saying given craig's behavior over the past year or so where some things that he said and also his behavior in the past he doesn't blatantly lie about things but he seems to tiptoe around things sometimes so is it possible i'm not saying kyle did himself any favors by airing

this shit out on Watch What Happens Live. If you wanted to deal with this the appropriate way, you would have talked to Craig once again. But, but is there some truth to what he's saying? Yeah, there's definitely some truth to what he's saying. I think that the most realistic way that it probably went down, Craig reached out to Kyle to say, hey, I was approached by, I think the spritz is owned by, you probably even followed the one.

The boy with no job, girl with no job. It's the toast. Yeah, so they probably reached out to Craig and said, hey, are you interested in investing with us? Maybe he has a relationship with them that's preexisting. Maybe he doesn't. I don't know that much. His response was, yeah, let me just talk to Kyle because, like, I don't want to mess anything up over there because we do have the Bravo relationship and Page's Friends of Amanda, whatever. But I don't think that he reached out and said to Kyle, hey, I'm thinking of investing with this company, but I wanted to check with you first to invest with you.

I don't think that he ever wanted to invest in Loverboy. I don't think that that was ever an existing plan of his. He was using the Spritz thing to act like he wanted to invest in. And then when Kyle... I don't think that he even indicated that he wanted to... Well, then why would Kyle say that he came to me for an invest? Because this is something that... I bet that he...

Well, Craig has corroborated the fact that he tried to invest with Loverboy. Yeah. And he said that Kyle told him that you can't invest in Loverboy. Meanwhile, Kyle's now saying, I told him to, like, just hang on for... He said it's the same thing that I've told. But, like, and then this doesn't add up either. Because he said... said, yeah, I wanted to get like a whole investment thing together for him to figure it out.

But then he looks at everybody else and they're like, yeah, how much is it to invest in what? He goes, oh, it's the same as it's always been. What's 25K? Yeah, I agree. I get that. But he could have had the wheels in motion. I don't know who's at fault here. He could have easily had the wheels in motion. He could have said, yeah, here's the minimum. Let me know what you're looking to invest and I'll let you know. It just seems like they were missing each other. But I could see a world in which maybe years ago, Craig asked if he could invest. Kyle said no. Craig got spurned and didn't want to invest in Loverboy anymore,

but still gave him the courtesy text of, hey, I was reached out to buy this new company to invest with them, just wanted to let you know because I'm considering it. And Kyle took that as a, oh, well, let me get an investment catalog together for you so you can invest with Lover Boy. Now all of a sudden he can invest with Lover Boy. And Craig's like, I already asked you a couple years ago. I don't want to do it anymore. I'm going to go with them anyway. Okay, maybe. I gave you a heads up. One more theory, and then we can move on from this, Because let's go under the idea that Craig is not telling the truth. His big statement was Kyle said that you cannot, like, people can't invest in Loverboy.

In this moment, it's very clear that Danielle is investing in Loverboy because he says 25,000. Like it's always been, Daniel's like, mm-hmm. So clearly she's put some money into it. And he has a response because I thought that that's what Sierra was doing. It's like, oh, so we can all invest in Loverboy trying to throw a shot. And he's like, yeah. Like, oh, what's the minimum? 25K it's like oh so you think Craig is lying I'm saying maybe Craig did approach him can I invest

knowing or thinking that he maybe say no or something like that he had the deal with spritz ready to go he had approached Kyle about it Kyle said give me a sec and he was like shit and just invest it with Spritz anyway thinking that okay I'd give him Kyle a heads up so we're cool that to me sounds like something Craig might do that's all I'm saying it definitely does and if you think about the inner workings of his relationship and how things have been going is especially at this point when it comes to Paige, look at the Austin relationship. He's not really friends with Austin right now,

and Paige is saying, yeah, why would you want to be friends with Austin? It's probably similar when it comes to Kyle. If those two are having a conversation behind closed doors, I imagine that Paige is ripping on Kyle. By the way, not blaming Page. Yeah, no, not blaming Page.

But, like, I imagine that a conversation with them would go, hey, thinking of investing in Loverboy, and Paige said, fuck no, why would you? Why do you want to be a business with Kyle? Perhaps. try to make sure that you're out of that because you don't want to have skin in the game with somebody like Kyle because he could get mad at me and then fuck your investment. Correct.

Yeah, I think, look, that's the interesting. That's why I like this episode a lot when they brought this up because I was like, ooh, he and Amanda are making valid points. And for the first time, I'd listen to his side of this argument because I've been so stuck on the Sprit side of things. Well, Steele and I are also going to reach out to Kyle to invest in Loverboy. Yeah, that's what a shooter posited that before the podcast started. So maybe we'll be.

That would be a funny investment. It would until it tanks and we fucking lose 25K, but whatever. But, like, my whole view of the whole thing didn't shift necessarily, but it definitely gave me, like, reason to pause and be like, ooh, I don't know if we have the full story. Because things have definitely shifted a little bit. And do I feel for Kyle? Not really. Do I feel for Amanda?

Yeah, 100%. She's like, dude, I get messages like, this is fucking with our brand. This is fucking with her money. It's fucking with her life. So for her, I feel bad. Again, to your point. Amanda has always defended him, though. Even when he's like a complete dick,

and like she's a good wife. She's a great way. He's not a great husband, but she's a terrible wife. She's a phenomenal way. So even when it comes down to Paige is the person that he's fighting with, she still does throw out a couple of like, yeah, no, this is true. This is real.

What Kyle's saying is true, the way he's saying it is awful, but what he's saying is true at the base. And that's the only reason that my ears barked out, but I went, oh, wait a minute, maybe there's more to the story than we got. And again, like you said. It's a Bravo show. Produce some receipts where there's text messages or emails up. I love to see receipts from this.

And the other part of it is, you know, he does do, I'm sure that this damage the brand, without a doubt. But he does damage himself without recognizing it throughout the summer by talking shit and doing stupid things. I just thought about the relationship or the conversation at the reunion, how that would go. Kyle, we get a little too, like, egotistic and be like, see, told you about Craig to page. Oh, no, don't do that. She would fucking ruin him. She would, like, she's so much better. I don't know what she would do.

She's, like, much better. She wouldn't talk about it. But I don't know what she would do right now because there's a lot of weird shit going on with that. Yeah, but, you know, he just doesn't do himself any favors. He wants to be, quote, unquote, friends with Page. But then he ends this with, like, you know, Craig's a fucking liar.

And it's like, dude, are you trying to, like, this is the problem. He sees red and he says anything. Yeah. He just goes for the jugular and it's stupid. But the one little reprieve we got was, like, after the 25K thing, West's like, I can't afford that right now. Yeah. And he finally cracked Sierra.

And I was like, oh, nature's healing. We're all getting back to. normal amidst this disaster we're watching. And that's, I feel like when Summer House is at its best is you could have two of the main players in this house get into a huge fight. If everybody else is just kind of like, whatever, we're still going to crack jokes. That's the best. It's the perfect dynamic.

It's the perfect mix of, oh, shit and ha-ha. And, you know, he always does this where he tries to like pull on the sympathy card a little bit. He's like, I thought we were closer than this. And Paige's like, I thought we were close in a fucking rage text, you asshole. and page brings up that it once again has nothing to do with me and now history is repeating itself the players have changed but the game is the exact same craig has taken the role of hannah and she's seen this whole thing happen and and i didn't even recognize how much this fucked her up from season

five with the falling out of hannah and kyle and amanda and her and the fact that she's still to this day is like you know i can't have a bachelorette party because i can't invite both of them that both of them are best friends. We have this montage of all of the moments they had together. She's not having a bachelor at party anyway? Sick burn. Got him. No, but in this moment,

she's getting up from the table and walking away, rightfully so. I mean, she said her piece. She's done a good job of maintaining neutrality, trying to get that through to Kyle's head, why she should not be in the middle of this. She even brings Amanda into it, not in a bad way, but to say, like, I'm trying my best here to maintain my friendships, despite you continuing to try to flame them,

please shut the fuck up. If you have a problem with them, go talk to them. This has nothing to do with me. And all he wants her to do is pick aside. And Sierra points out, like, why did you have to accuse her that she thinks like Hannah

or whatever the fuck he said? And he's like, well, does she? Because I think she's being two-faced. And somebody made an edit on Instagram of this clip, and it was like, she's walking in. It was like, like, they added a sound effect of her, like, turning him.

going back outside. She's like two-faced and really tears into him. And it was fucking awesome because she's like, if you want to call me too-faced, I maintain friendships because of all this bullshit going on, I was mature about it and took myself out of it because I didn't want to lose my friends. You're being too-faced because you rage text me like a bitch

and then when we sit down at the table, you're going to sit there like nothing fucking happened and you're going to ask me like, oh, so you're mad? That's being two-faced, Kyle. She's been on the up and up. And the one thing you can say about Paige is she has never been two-faced. I've never seen her two-faced. She's always exactly what she says is exactly what she means.

And that's always who she is. It's one of her very redeeming qualities. So for him to take this stance, I think she's being two-faced. Why? Because you need the validation of her saying, you're right, Kyle. I don't agree with Hannah. He does. But that's bullshit because if they had an actual conversation, and this is what I was saving,

it's like, if he approached this as a friend that he claims to be, hey page i saw hannah was saying some things i know this is awkward given our history i just i feel uncomfortable and i want to make sure that you know i want to know where you stand with this whole thing because i don't want you to think ill of me i don't believe this to be true whatever like approach her as a friend and have a conversation hey i'm uncomfortable with this you're my friend i want to make sure we're cool that's so easy to do instead of picking up your phone like a fucking 15 year old and firing off a rage text back to back to back to back because you're mad once again not at her but her boyfriend and her business partner that's ridiculous when you

could have said a million things calmly to your friend hey what's going on with me and craig kind of sucks man i don't want this to come between us but i want you to know my side of things and then he can tell her calmly like there's so many ways to go about i don't do anything calmly But that's not an excuse. It starts at the rage text. Obviously, if we keep it on the rage text, it's not like he's ever going to apologize for it. And I think the page realized that halfway through because you can't just keep it about the rage text. Like, why the fuck did you rage text me?

That's a normal thing to ask somebody who sends a rage text. Say, what the fuck was that? And if they apologize for rage texting, then you move on to other things and other topics and whatever. But he's not going to apologize for it. This is just an activity for Kyle to get everybody else on his side. to say, yes, you were justified to get mad at page for that, which nobody's going to say. No. Because he's not justified to get mad at all.

If he raged texted Craig, if he raged messaged Hannah, it's a different story. Those are people that you're actually accusing of things. You rage text Hannah, yeah, she's going to screenshot it and put it all over Giggly Squad, and she's going to put it on all the podcasts and all the, like, page six is going to pick up. And nobody's going to buy lover boy. So, yeah, good move not doing that, I guess. But if you rage text, Craig. Because you rage text page, and this is also going to do the same thing.

Yeah, so, like, just say you're sorry for rage texting, and that's just who I am because I'm nuts and I can't stop. Okay, we know that. You still have to apologize and then take everything that you said back, but still, like, what is Amanda there for? We talked about this last week. Rage, verbally rage at Amanda about Paige, about Craig, about Hannah, and she'll try to calm you down. That's what she's signed up for. She's your wife. She's going to have to deal with that shit.

She knows what she's getting into. I don't think that's her job. It's not her job, but like, she knows she knew who he was before she married him. I mean, you have to put up with this shit if you want to stay with him. Fine. Let him, let her be the soundboard.

Go off on her. Calm yourself down. Don't go off on her. That doesn't sound nice. It doesn't sound nice, but that is their marriage. Just vent. Vent. Have a vent session with your partner.

Vent, vent sash. Soundboard also works. It's fine. Soundboard's fine. I said, go off. It's not fine. Yeah, whatever. But still, that's what she signed up for.

Just do that. you know what? She'd probably appreciate that, especially if you broke it down and, like, she was upset. She would appreciate the fact that you decided, hey, I really wanted to rage text page, but instead I sat down with you and told you all about what I was going to say. And I didn't rage text page. I texted her and said, hey, can we have a chat? I think that's a good situation. By the way, he definitely raged at Amanda before sending the rage. He did all of those things. That's the problem. We can see that. It's clear as day, the way that he handles this, not apologizing, feeling no remorse, still feeling that he's justified in all of his actions.

And we're still sitting here like, yeah, there are some things, there's some inconsistencies with what Craig was saying. You might be right about this. But because you're being such an asshole, we're not going to say that you're right. No, and it's also not going to end up in your favor, regardless of if you are right, because of how you just treated Page. Like, it's a lose, lose for him, but he still can't see that. And that's what Amanda sees every time he does this. She's like, he just, he gets too hot. I can't calm him down. He goes, goes off, wanders around, mother fucks everybody, cries in the car. I'm going to go cry in my car for real and go home this time.

Yeah. I'm sick, dude. It's a fucking good burn. But like, you get Paige and Sierra talking in their room after all of this. And, I mean, Paige is in tatters at this moment. Like, you don't see Paige cry. And Paige is crying. She's upset.

She's talking about the Bachelorette like we talked about. And she's like, the one thing I am is a good friend. And I work so hard to maintain this relationship with Amanda and Hannah. Make sure they're both okay. And let's not forget. Giggly Squad is massively successful. They are extremely successful. And two months out of the year,

she doesn't say a fucking word about it. The only thing that we ever get from page to reference Giggly Squad is sometimes she wears the merch. Yeah. That is, like, I can't even imagine not talking about, like, our podcast for two months. She doesn't do it. Like, that's really impressive.

And she does that. Why? To maintain calm in the house because she's a grown-up. but Kyle can't go five seconds without mentioning lover boy or having it on screen using Summerhouse as his platform to sell lover boy, which of course a lot of Bravo Labs use these shows to promote their products. I'm not knocking that, but this show has become more or less a commercial for your product. And Paige, who has a podcast that is much more successful than your drink, doesn't say shit. And the best line still is, I'm going to buy it and sell it, which he said last week. I'm like, yeah, you probably could, honestly.

So, I mean, all of the hats off to her with maintaining her composure the way she did. You almost take her hat off? I literally almost did. A gesture towards her, yeah. Hats off. Wow. Yeah, well, I just, it's a true hats off. It's impressive because, like, she's dealing with all this shit.

She still has to deal with the fallout after the fact. She's going to have to talk to Craig. She's going to have to talk to Hannah. That's the stuff that Kyle doesn't recognize. It's like, this has a ripple effect because now there's more people involved. Well, you would think that he would understand that it's going to have a ripple effect that's immediately going to come after his wife. Right. Like, yeah, you want to go

storm around and have Carl try to calm you down. Your wife is upstairs in the shower crying. Literally. Without the water on, she's sitting in the fucking shower. She didn't do anything. Zero. She didn't do. Neither did Paige. Correct. Neither of these two people who were now extremely affected by your words

and actions did anything to actually harm you. And you still think you're the thing. You still are going to try to convince us that you're the right person. You've been slightly. it's so fucking nuts to me but jesse and west have a quick little chit-chat and he's like see i was laughing yeah brother and it's look it's a step in the right direction and that's all we need to see because when there's drama like this in the house and this is probably going to continue on

because i know craig makes an appearance of the house so we're not done with this yet we don't need too much other stuff we need one main thing going on and then some fun you know there's fun trickled and around. So the fact that everyone's getting along outside of this is a very positive thing. But Kyle goes to talk to Amanda, and again, he's taking the approach of, you know, these lies almost ruined our marriage multiple times, like we almost, and then it's like dead silence. I don't know if he almost said, like, we almost got divorced over this. But the whole point, dude, is you're the cause. And then you walk in there and you say that the lies are the problem. You handling it this way is the problem.

Yeah, Amanda goes upstairs at the girls room. I thought she cold-shouldered Lexi a little bit, which I was like, that's kind of mean. Yeah, Lexi was just being nice. I mean, it is also like, we've known you for a week. Yeah, but also like, don't leave people out. She's walking out. She's like, I'm just going to talk to the girls for a sec. Like, you're not one of them. You go downstairs. Yeah, I mean, she could be in the room for that. That's what I was like, it's kind of a weird moment. But whatever, I mean, she's going through it. So I'm not going to fault her for it. And Paige and Amanda, like, cry hug and like, I never want to fight with you. And I miss you. Hannah and blah blah blah like they're not fighting which is a beautiful thing like they're really not they're just like having this moment where it's like unfortunately they've been through

up before multiple times and there's one common denominator here every single time but we're in the kitchen and you got him rule who I think is great I still think he's great I think he's great I have no issues with him at all got him and Lindsay and Danielle they're talking like it's like so like you got done with Carl and then you dated this guy said no I dated a lot of guys he's like hell yeah Yeah, that fine. Feel that. I resonate with that because she's like, I had a roster. He's like, I always have a roster.

I'm in three entanglements at the moment. They're like entanglements. Two one-year relationships going on. Entanglements. Yeah. Two one-year entanglements at the same time. It's like, wow, at the same time? Yeah, but like I'm not leading them on.

That's not my vibe. I don't lead them on. I just let them know. Very transparent. Yeah, relationships are not for me. Some people, look, hey, you want to be in a relationship great, but it's not really for me. And I let them know.

Okay. I appreciate you, man. I appreciate the fact. I didn't even think. I thought that, honestly, they immediately called it out there. Like, there's a couple of red flags there. Like, you're a big walking red flag. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

I let them know. I don't need anybody on. Like, all right, maybe you're a burnt orange flag. He's like, he sounds like a green flag. He sounds like a straight up green flag. Like, he's honest. What's not wrong with this guy? It's not for the girl.

Yeah. Then okay. They walk away. But he's very, very much like, this is how I fuck. figuratively speaking that there was a weird way to say yeah that was a weird way to say you don't even talk like that I never talked like that

yeah this is how I who are you down I don't know this podcast is getting weird or keep going this is how I operate okay I thought boogie was next I was getting really confused I don't even know what that is how I'm boogie

I didn't mean it like that like if I meant like I fuck with you kind of deal and it came out this is how I fuck I fuck This is how I operate. This is how I tick. I said operate.

It just took me five minutes to get there after I said something strange. I don't ever talk like that. Get down. That's now at all time. This is how I get down, maybe. But yeah, I think that's a green flag. He's just got a different lifestyle. Yeah, I have no problem.

And I do very much appreciate West sneaking out of the house in his confessional saying, like, look, I know I'm allowed to do stuff, but I don't want to rub it in Sierra's face. Like, I like that. That's the right move by him. Don't call attention to it. It's not necessary. He did say he was going to his boy's house, which it's still unclear. I believe he probably went to his boy's house, but I would imagine that there was women there. Yeah.

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you guys rush this kind of way yeah but as they're going out to the hot tub they're It might be the funniest line I've ever heard, honestly. He's like, I think I only stayed home one night last summer, and that was because I was afraid I had cancer. Yeah. He laughed for like 30 seconds. And look, maybe there's your sign that this is a little bit too quick. Look, I mean, maybe, I don't know.

I mean, it depends on how he actually feels at the moment. Like, when you see everybody else going, and it's not like everybody else was going out, it would have been a huge problem of mine if everybody else in the house was like yeah we're going to get ready to go out and they were like yeah we're going to stay home tonight I would be furious yeah I know you would

I would be livid but there's only like three people going out so like it's not the end of the world Paige and Sierra in bed again yeah well they had a traumatic night okay fine so I give him a pass on that I actually didn't expect anybody to go out this night I figured Imrule was going to go out though Imrule will go out every night as he states

he said that I'm going out every fucking night I was like wait I came to the Hamptons like, I'm going to be out every single night that I'm here. Yeah, without it. Lovely. Please do that. That's the goal. You have any friends that can join the show.

We need that. Anyway. Oh, man, that could turn into a very different show. Yeah, I would. If he brings his buddies that go to the sex parties with him. Yeah. I don't know if I want to watch that show. It might be too much.

Just him by himself is fine. But, yeah, it's a different type of vibe. It's just, you know, in the back of your head, like, they are moving way too fast. And if he's sitting here like, uh, yeah, West is going out. But you know what? I'd rather be, like, genuinely, I'd, I'd, rather be home and stay with Lexi, fine. Yeah, that's sweet.

Figure it out. This is your chance to get some more one-on-one time. You're trying to build at the same time. Like, yeah, you're fucking petrified that things are moving way too fast. But this is your opportunity to build a little bit. Find out a little bit more. Maybe see what the vibe is. Maybe you actually have an organic moment where you can talk about how fast you guys are moving

and not in a joking way that you've been doing because you're just avoidant. Maybe you can sit there and have a real conversation. Like, where do we want this to go? That's a good. What's the outlook? And I don't, maybe that's what he was saying. Maybe it isn't what he's thinking. It's not what he didn't bring it up.

No, he didn't bring it up. So, yeah, clearly it's not. That's a good moment to do it. Get the hot tub going. Is this thing hotter? Yeah, let's go take a look in here. Good. Good time to do it.

He didn't do any of that. No, he didn't do anything. And, you know, you can point to him being nervous to have the conversation. Again, it's, I get to a point where I think about, and if you hear Scotty in the background, my daughter is having a very good time out in the living room. But if you. think from Lexi's side of things because look do I think it's too fast yes are there cringy moments absolutely without a doubt but I do think about Lexi and I feel bad because she's

been up front about it she's like I am a jealous person I do jump head first into things I do want this to work out I've introduced you to my parents so she I can't fault her for this because she at the very least is being up front with it whereas Jesse has these reservations and I, like I said, if he brings it up this week, this weekend or the following week before next weekend, I think that it's within the time frame of it being like, all right, you guys move too quick, you slowed it down, you're good. It's just so funny because we've gotten through four episodes of this. We're like, uh, figure it out already.

Yeah, dude. But it's been seven or eight days. Yeah, but like it's been seven or eight days of love bombing. Extra fast forward. Yeah. And I don't think that's fair to her because at the very least, she has been honest. Yeah. And maybe there's something to say, like, she has been really upfront about how she is typically, and this is that and whatever and whatever.

Maybe Jesse's thinking, all right, maybe, like, we'll settle in at some point. It'll slow down a little bit and we can finally figure out if there's something here because there is attraction, as he says a little bit later. And I do like her and I want to see where it goes. But, and there's a huge button there. Lots of butts. Is this actually who she is? And it's like, yeah, she was very upfront. And people have a problem with that all the time.

I feel like in relationships where it's like, yeah, this person is truly up front with what they want, but, you know, we'll see how it goes. It's like, no, why do you expect them to change if this is who they're going to be? And I think that's what he thinks right now. He's like, yeah, you know, it's been seven or eight days. It's a lot. But I think it'll, like, even out at some point because he's a dude and he's an idiot. Yeah, no, I get it.

I'm just saying, like, in general, it's like, it's always so funny to me, especially when we watch it on TV. It's like, she told you black and white, this is me. And now you're like, yeah, but it's like, No, bro. If you want to be engaged by the end of the summer and have a kid on the way. That's my whole point. Like, she's made it very clear.

And I cannot falter for that. I will not falter for that. No, never. So it's just, it's interesting to watch this whole thing play out and like watching him kind of realize everything. And my only, like, I can't, and you know this. Like, it's 2.19 a.m. Carl gets home and Lexi and Jesse are in bed.

And he's like, I like your stinky breath. I was like, nope. Yeah, that's the line for me. Both of you go brush your teeth. That's yucky. I don't like that. We talked about this before, like, morning kisses before people have brushed your teeth.

Yeah. It's gross. Just brush your teeth and then get back in bed. Like, why do we have to have stinky breath moments? Like, I don't like that. It makes me feel yucky. Like, brush your teeth. I'm a big, like, once I brush my teeth, I'm not coming back to bed, though.

I mean, that's another thing too. Once I'm up, I'm up. I'm up. Yeah. Yeah, I get up, I'm out. But if that's your vibe, I just don't like, I don't know. That was like, I didn't need to see that. It's like, me.

I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing. But gross. Stop. I don't like it. But West is MIA for the entire evening and the morning rolls around. West sneaks back into the house again. I appreciate it.

Hold on. We are passing over something here. What did I miss? Very important. Oh, Imrule. Imrule comes back with a chick home. Imrule brings a chick home. It's a sombrero on the camera.

Classic. Classy move. Now, the sombrero falls. Mm-hmm. And then the camera just immediately, whoop. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Not doing that. But the funny thing is, you can catch like a little bit of audio. And I don't know if it was just the subtitles or if everybody heard that. Thanks that dress off, lady. that part that is what he said that is what he said and look I am not gonna knock his game

clearly it works for him I'm happy for him I just can't imagine saying no I can't either but you could hear her say is this your first night in the house and in this next morning he says yeah

I think he said it to Danielle like yeah maybe I shouldn't have brought that girl back I shouldn't have brought her back I think he had his first experience with a fan of the show oh you think she referred to it is the house.

It's like, is this your first night in the house? Bingo. And like, yeah, look, I mean, I'm not going to fault the guy. It's his first night out in the Hamptons. He's on the show. People do know what the show is. I mean, they see, they see Danielle and the other people. They see Danielle.

They see Carl walking around and they're like, oh, my God, it's a summer house people. And then he introduces himself. He's like, yeah, I'm new on the show. You know, back in the house. They're like, oh, my God, you're back at the house. That's so cool. And then he ends up bringing a girl back. So I think he had his first encounter with him.

He missed a part of that. What's that? look, I'm very transparent. I'm just going to be very clear with you right now. This is not going to go any further than, like, maybe a couple of weekend flings since you're out here. At most of one-year entanglement, but there'll be other women involved. Are you cool? We're cool.

Take that dress up. Look, you got her a cab at like three or three-19 or whatever time it was. Look, he's an interesting fellow, that's for sure. But let's get back to the morning. West sneaks in the house. Good move. I like that. Jesse and Lexi, this is a weird moment, too.

she's like, you talk in your sleep. And he was like, oh, I did. She's like, yeah, you was all like, I love you. And I was like, oh, my God. I don't think that happens. I don't think that happened either. Okay, all right, cool. We're on the same page.

If it did, if it did, there'd be camera footage. Yeah. Okay, so that to me, but then what alleviated it a little bit, she was like, oh, I was like, thank you. I was like, okay. Yeah. We can leave this. Yeah.

If she had taken it a step further, like, I think I love you too. And left it at that, and she's serious. Like, it would have been a good time for a joke. Yeah. It may not have hit because of the state of everything. That's where the heartbreak kid comes back. Love, love, love, love, love, love. But, yeah, I did nothing.

As soon as she said that, I'm like, that didn't happen? No, that definitely did it happen. Do that to this guy? But I love that. That's one of, like, Ben Stiller's probably less viewed movies. And we've referenced it. I don't know how many times on the show. People probably don't know what that movie is.

Give it a world. It's actually pretty funny. But Kyle and Amanda. He tried to do what he always does. We always get that, like, sad puppy dog scene in the middle of the night where he walks in the bedroom on her side and tries to talk to her. She doesn't have a cow go to bed. Then you get this in the morning where he's like, this pissed me off more than anything.

You just put your wife through the fucking ringer, buddy. She had the worst night ever. You fucked with her friendship once again. And then you're going to go into the morning and crawl up to her and go, I didn't sleep at all last night. I was having anxiety attacks and heart palpitations. Don't pull sympathy from her. apologize to her and take ownership of your shit bro this is fucking it's manipulative it's slimy it's

like woe is me like do grow up but this is where this is where summer house kind of bothers me a little bit if this was any other show we probably would have immediately had the producers with what you just said about lexie with jesse in bed oh yeah there would be footage of that right there's probably footage of kyle's sleeping soundly through the night oh yeah and we would have gotten that of him just laying in the exact same position for six straight hours on the camera and then just producers do them dirty. That's what we get in all of these shows. It's a good point.

But it never happens for Kyle. Interesting point. It's too much power for the show, which brings to light all of the Hannah stuff. Like when that gets brought up, it's like, I don't know. I think, I mean, he hated her. I know that. But I think that it became, it kind of came to a head. Hannah was also like, it seemed like every year that she was there.

It was like Luke and like all these guys. Anytime there was a new guy in the house, like she would be hooking up with them. And then it would inevitably just fall apart. And that's actually why I have PTSD when Sierra's like, oh, yeah, I kind of like that guy in, like, West last year. It's because of Hannah. Turmoil that comes after.

It was too much. And then you throw on top of that. She was always fighting with Kyle, just constantly fighting with Kyle. And Kyle was fighting with Amanda all the time. She wasn't, like, widely liked back then, was she? No, I don't think so. I don't really know because I wasn't, like, as much on, like, the,

well, she might not be that, like, anymore with the fucking Meg the Stallion shit. was bananas yeah i don't know it's i never really cared for her anyway but i think that there's a chance that he probably did go to producers and was just like look we don't have a good rapport in this house right now because of hannah so it's either like so it wasn't he didn't do it but he influenced he probably influenced it okay i mean like i said you you you would have more of a take on it than i would but amanda says just go talk to the boys go talk to carl he gives a half-assed apology it's whatever and you know page and sierra in bed this is when it like bothers me because they're like, I don't even want to go to the beach.

Let's go home and get our cats. It's like, guys, like, it's not nighttime, though. It's not about you. Go have fun. It's about us. Yeah, it's, yeah, damn it. That's what they need to realize. Like, at some point in this show, these shows, you have to realize it is not about you.

Correct. A lot of times, it is about you because it's interesting. This, you guys laying in bed and going home early, that's never interesting, does. It's not. And what you did the night prior is why you're so fucking amazing on this show because you bring moments like that. Like, she is an absolute necessary part of this show. I know way, shape, or form, am I saying, like...

No, not at all. But just, guys, come on, go to the fucking beach. If Paige left Summerhouse, I would briot. Yeah, me too. Like, go to the beach. You know what I mean? Just go to the beach. But Danielle and Lindsay are in the kitchen, and they're talking about him,

Marul, brought a lady home last night. And then Lindsay rats out west. Yep. Like, oh, well, West's bread was empty last night. And then Amanda walks in. Daniel was for some reason very upset that West went out without her and didn't like contact them later in the night because she's like, oh, so you went to go hang with the other friends?

It was like, bone zone, no bone zone? Well, I actually kind of get Daniel in this moment because imagine going with like, yeah, Carl was there. Carl's great, but he's not drinking. He's not like bopping around and doing all these things. He's probably just kind of like having a good time and then he's going to go home. Are you explaining me right now when I go out?

No. Imrule is bopping. Imrule is on, he's out. He's checking in every once in a while. He strikes me as a guy that just comes back every once in a while. I was like, hey, you guys all right? He's in the constant circle. He probably is always every time that he comes back, like, hey, do you need a drink?

Like, I'll go grab you one because he's a good dude. But he's always on the, always on the moon. He's on the circuit. So if you're Danielle there, you're like, fuck. Okay. Yeah, like Carl's fun, but like, where's West? Like, let's have more fun. West isn't here.

Fair enough. Fair enough. I will. I'm usually on Danielle's side, but then. I will accept that breakdown. That was good. But West definitely hooked up. He acknowledges it in the confessional.

Again, he's allowed to. I'm glad he was a gentleman about it. Took it out of the house. That was good. Imrule comes back up. Nate, brought a girl home last night. And then Imruel joins and shouldn't have brought that girl home. Love that.

Great. Perfect. Kyle still wants to leave at this point. Fucking let him go. Who cares? But Kyle and Amanda have a conversation. And, you know, these apologize for making things awkward between her. and Paige, and Amanda emphasizes what we're all screaming at the TV, you keep putting emphasis

on page. Yep. This is not her fault. This is 1,000% your fault on issues that have nothing to do with page. Your issue, once again, for the umpteenth time, is with Craig, and your issue is with Hannah. Just text page and say you're fucking sorry. Go have a conversation with Paige and just say you're sorry. but she understands where he's at

only knowing how he operates and I love that she didn't back down on this one she's like you you don't need to always get people to see your side like that doesn't have to happen to be able to move forward from things because we know Paige well enough to know that she will not pick a side if you keep pushing her she might pick hand aside

but she won't do that because she knows that would floor Amanda so she will maintain Switzerland forever you're the problem dude stop Yeah, figure it out. And, like, your wife, her poor Amanda. Like, the fact that she's just sit there in the morning and deal with this shit is so dumb. But we get the ride to the beach. Everyone's going on a beach day.

I'm excited about beach day. So we're going to beach day. We always get one good beach day. I always got a solid beach day in there. And I'm glad that Jesse brought it up because he gets in the car without Lexi. Brings it up to a very, very reasonable group of people. I think this is a good crew in this car to, like, you know, fire this off. I like, the page breaks the ice asking if he had separation anxiety.

Yeah, right? That could be true. It's not just a joke. No, it could be a real thing. And he's like, you know, I'm thinking of talking to Lexi about sort of where we're at. And I'm concerned that she's a jealous person. Paige's like, well, how? So she told me.

It's like, we'll do it. So we know that she's jealous. But he explains more, and this is always a red flag for me, it's like if you can't talk about your exes, and I'm not saying it to bring them up frequently, but if you can't have a conversation about a past relationship that is no longer a thing, just to be like telling a story, whatever. I always think that's an issue. You shouldn't be that jealous that you can't hear about the fact that they have a life before you. And then the other thing is commenting on the pictures, which I can see both sides of this one. I mean, on one hand, that's just Jesse Solomon.

Yeah, it's a stick at this point. It's a bit that he's been doing since he's been on the show. I could also see if you're dating somebody that rubbing them the wrong way because you're commenting on women's pictures, how hot they are. So I can see both of them. Not everybody can be so confident that they don't care about that. Right. So I understand that one a little bit, but he brings it up, like, you know, there is this extreme attraction between the two of us, and we like each other enough to explore. I think the way he breaks this down is, is exactly what he needs to say to her. Right. There's this extreme attraction. We like each other enough to explore, but I don't want it to blow up. I don't want the house to blow up. I don't want things

between us to blow up. And I think that that's literally all you have to say to Lexi. Hey, I like you a lot. Here's the things that concern me. This concerns me. My blow up. I am a flirtatious person. I like to joke with my friends with the comments. Like, I, I, there needs to be some middle ground here. Right. And we know for a fact based on the trailer from the beginning of the season that it does eventually blow up. We don't know if he has that conversation with her. If he has the conversation with her and it blows up, then you can go to her and be like,

this is exactly what I was talking about. Right. This is what I don't want. I clearly, and it's with Sierra, it's like, clearly I don't want to date Sierra. They're leading us to believe that it's about. At least, yeah, that's what we think at this point. It could be anybody. Who knows. But if she blows up over something that they talked about, then it's like, all right, look, we talked about this. We had this conversation.

If it's not going to work and it's not going to vibe, we do need to cut it off now before it becomes a bigger problem. Right. There. If he doesn't have the conversation. Very different story. Which is very possible that he just completely skirts the conversation. Or he has a conversation that makes him feel better, but he doesn't address those things. Perhaps.

Which is also a possibility. Then it's still on you. Yep. It's not on her because she's still been up front. Until you have the conversation, it's not an even-playing film. I agree. I agree, because she's been honest. You have been, not dishonest, but you've been buying into it, and now you're realizing,

ooh, shit. So for the last time, conversation needs to happen this weekend or this week before you return to the summer house for you to still be in the clear. If not, I will probably side with Lexi. Correct. Let's get to some questions. And we do see at the very, very, very end, looks like Kyle and Paige are going on. Oh, yeah, correct.

We don't see the chat, and then we get scenes from next week and all of that. That's before, you know, the point here, before we get into questions, if he just goes over and it calmly addresses it, even after the shit show that last night was, she will still be mellow and talk it out with you because that's just who she is. So I hope he doesn't fuck this one up. Right. Well, let's get some questions. From Lauren 3D. Have you or would you guys ever do a gender reveal? if yes how would you do the reveal no shooter told you guys how dev revealed to him that we were

having a baby she literally goes look at this and handed him the the sonogram yeah yeah no we would never do it no it's just not do you boo boo boo do whatever you want i just you know i get to think how i want i think i also can't wait i'm too impatient like the doctor like we know them like tell me oh this is actually kind of funny because i did see this from manda k stanton did you guys have jesse solomon and dropping a single on your 2025 bingo card. It doesn't suck. It doesn't suck. He's a very good singer.

He's very talented. And, I mean, it wasn't not on there. Like, it's not that surprise. He's making music. He's talented. Yeah. He's the songbird of our generation. Where you've been?

From Sarah underscore D. Do we think Amanda will have to one day choose between her friendships and Kyle? I just don't know if it's going to happen, man. I really want her businesses. like whatever ideas. I know she's doing something with swimwear. I want her shit to take off and just get so focused on her own stuff

that she gets to a point where it's like, Kyle, this is my life. Get on board or go fuck yourself. Like that's, it's not even about the friends. It's about I want her to realize like the potential she has. She's so capable of crushing it

because of who she is and who she has been on this show. That's what I would like for her. Yeah. This is a funny question from, Jamie Gibbs. What's faster? Lindsay moving on from Carl or how quickly Page turned around when Kyle called her two-faced? I don't know if there's a response there, but that. I think Lindsay and Carl. Still, that's got to be the fastest thing that's ever happened. It's fucking insane. Like,

the whole situation and the fact that they're handling it as well as they are is commendable. Yeah, for sure. From it's Clarissa CA. You've got three of them here. I'm going to pick the best one. This is kind of fun. Rate everybody's business acumen from best to worst. Who's got businesses? I mean, Carl's got his sober bar. Soft bar.

We've got Lover Boy. We've got Giggly Squad and other ventures like Paige is doing. I'm sure there's probably a couple more in the, I don't know. I would say, I mean, out of those three, it's pretty tough. I would say right now it looks like Page is the best. Page one. She at least has, like, people advising her. in the best way. Daniel's got her app.

Oh, yeah. Daniel's got the app. Get ready with Danny. Was it the closet app? No, it's like you can go on there and shop, isn't it? No, you can buy clothes on there, though. Oh, okay. Or it'll take all of your... I thought it was like inventory all of it.

From what I understand of it, I believe it inventories your closet to put outfits together, but you can also purchase clothes that you see from other people on there. I don't really know, but... I'm going to say it probably goes page one, Kyle. Two. I've got Kyle, too, just because, like, he actually hasn't. Yes, yeah. I'll probably throw Carl in three, and then Danielle in four.

I don't... But that's as impossible to say. Yeah, I don't know. Who really knows? I don't fucking know. Who knows? But, yeah, that's all I got over here. Well, next week should be a good episode.

There's a lot on the table that they need to get to. I'm curious. there's a lot of powder kegs sprinkled about the Summer House and we got a lot of sparks flying so something's going to be set off so you can feel it you can always that's the thing with Summer House so you can always feel it on the horizon oh yeah and I'm feeling a I'm feeling a squall captain

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