Bros & Shows - Casa Amor With a Twist: Operation G-Wagon (Love Island ep 19+20 Full Recap)
Episode Date: June 26, 2025What's up Bros? It looks like Love Island is attempting to right the ship. During Casa Amor, a lot happens. TJ is on the chopping block as he navigates the Villa to try and secure a connection. With t...his set up, whoever is left single will be dumped from the Villa. With ANOTHER recoupling, the OG's are pressed to secure a connection as well. Amaya is single as well and she sets her sights on Zac, who is currently coupled up with Olandria. It all ends with not one, but TWO fan favorites on the chopping block. Just when the sadness sets in, we are hit with a twist that we are referring to as Operation G-Wagon... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Wow.
When you said caught or when you catch, rather, I thought you were going to be talking about Nick's lips again.
No, no, no.
Just I'd start to think of a little ditty for Casa Amur.
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steel russell joined as always quite frequently now villa goots what's up dude twice a week
you got me here villagootz ready to go i was just going to say i think we've officially lost
the plot i don't think that uh anybody knows what the hell is going on i think i'm okay with that
because here's why this was a wild roller coaster of a two episodes a lot of emotions a lot of anger honestly frustration irritation irritation aggravation all the asians if we're really getting into it aviation sure sure there's some notebooks flying so what they did though right when i was out they pull me back in with the end of this one and here's why i'm okay with everything that happened i feel so out of the loop
because i didn't watch last season and that's a little frustrating but now it feels like everyone's
on the same page of what the fuck's going on so now i feel like i'm back with the cool kids
yeah you're you're in confusion land if you will where nobody really knows what's going on
i would say we're borderline we're like defcon four where we're not really sure you know
defcon counts down i believe right i always get that wrong defcom one is like the closest i always thought
it did too but now you're like defcon three two well yeah defcon yeah the amount of mission impossible
references that you have made in the past three weeks is astounding like i can't help it it's just so good
um but yeah i i think more so everybody's very confused so you are right everybody's in the same boat
right now it is really really funny to watch people on tic-tok try to just explain their lives away
like oh yeah oh this is this is what's going to happen this is what they're setting up it's like no
What they did was, and this was a huge mistake, they made the entire cast a bunch of micro-influencers who were only really concerned about staying on the island as long as possible, playing it safe so that they can get their brand up.
And when they get out, it doesn't really matter if they get a lot of hate or they read the comments and people didn't like them.
People probably followed them.
So that's why we're seeing friends of, of the people on the cast, running their socials, except for one person, which I'll save for later.
everybody is using their platforms already, which is unprecedented because they know what's going to
happen. Everybody's going to flock to their pages. So they want to make sure they post things.
They want to make sure they post stories. So it's, they've lost the plot with the cast and this is what
happens. Everybody's playing it safe. So they're trying to in real time, which I guess, you know,
kind of works for this show because you can see what the audience is doing. And in real time,
the producers are trying to fix it. They're just like, what do we do? So that's what I got from it.
Yeah. Yeah. And look, who's to say if it's actually going to work? I'll save my analysis of it for the end of the episode because it has everything to do with the end of the second episode. But with Casa Moore, when we start this episode, it's like, okay, we're changing the rules. We're changing everything. You're going to couple up with everybody in each house. And this is how we're going to do it. It's like, okay, this seems rash. This seems not as fun because Casa Moore used to be incredible because you had to make a decision. Am I going to come back alone? Am I going to come back with a couple?
going to wait at the villa alone or am I going to wait at the villa with a couple and then oh god forbid
the guy that i was dating comes in by himself i feel like a real piece of shit those moments were the
best i don't know what they're going to do with the end of casa more and we'll talk about that at the
end but starting it off like that it's like okay you guys are really just winging it you're just throwing
shit at the wall and hoping that something sticks or at least at the very least motivates these people
to stop playing it safe because it's not making for great tv and we're seeing through it yeah and i think
that what you saw was i'm not going to
say a last-ditch effort to fix it because it's not like we're up shits creek without a paddle it's
still enjoyable oh yeah but we were seeing some areas in which it was like ooh i don't love that
and then i think the cherry on top was jeremiah going home and producers probably like shit
this is taking a weird turn yeah let's let's take a time out and figure out how to fix this now
what happens when we have moments like that it's going to go one of two ways it's either going to
work or this is going to be a disaster so time will tell but it was really interesting to watch
this after you had explained what casa amor was yeah and this is what i got i was like okay well
this doesn't track at all at the very least at least ariata explained it in a way that was
we're doing this for the first time ever so as soon as you hear that you're like oh well thank god
i just had shooter explained the whole thing about shit that that is really funny and and we'll get
to all of that because I do think, I remember after watching Monday's episode, thinking to myself,
well, that was a waste of an hour and a half because really nothing happens. Like, yeah,
they paired off. They did this. The big thing was that they were changing the rules of Casa
more and you know, you kind of have to figure out what that's going to look like, but they're not
giving you all the answers right now. They're saying that everybody's going to be in the villa.
Everything that I'm reading is that that villa is a lot smaller than it looks on TV. How the fuck
are we going to have 24 people in the villa? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
to get whacked or you're going to combine the two houses and they're going to have separate
spots where people, depending on who your couple is, maybe you're in Calstone or maybe you're
in the villa.
I just don't know how that would work because then you are immediately eliminating the opportunity
for people to mingle with others.
Like, yeah, if you want to throw 24 people in one spot, they're going to go crazy.
It's going to be a frenzy and people are going to be talking to all these different people
and you're going to do a recoupling.
I just don't understand how you're then going to start eliminating people.
Are we just going to put it all back into America's hands?
because that's fine, because the islanders will know how to fucking vote.
What do you mean?
Well, as long as they, as America doesn't do the, ha, ha, this would be funny, vote.
Do the right vote.
Vote correctly.
I think, and I'm just speaking for myself and at least the people that are taking it somewhat seriously,
I think that America would be able to get it right this time around because we're kind of set up.
We're kind of fed up with the whole like, all right, we know what you're doing.
It's enough.
but yeah again we don't really have any answers when it comes to that and we'll theorize what it means
I love that we're over analyzing to the point of whoa there's an uneven amount of people in
each house that means Jeremiah and Hannah are coming back no we we do have to give that up I thought
thought that meant that somebody's going home yeah and you were right so we do have to give that up
enough of the Charlie's coming back do you Jeremiah well yes for the people that are actually gone
because they're already doing interviews.
They're all on the fucking vile files for the love of God.
So once they do that, it's like, okay, you're probably out.
Now, they want to bring somebody like Jeremiah back in a couple of weeks for, you know, whatever.
And we'll talk about that towards the end too.
Fine.
But people like Hannah, there's no reason to really bring Hannah back at this point.
And it happens, and I understand the thinking when it happens.
You're like, fuck.
But wait, what if she came back for Pepe?
It's like, well, you see how quickly these people move on.
And Hannah was one of them.
Charlie went home, she was a mess, and then she was spitting on her hand like a night later with Pepe.
So we got to stop doing that.
And I'm not just talking about us.
I'm just talking about everybody.
But before we even get to the cost somewhere, we do have to break down the aftermath of Jeremiah going home.
You know, Hannah's one thing, but we do have to break down the Jeremiah going home because
there were some very interesting things said when it comes to both parties,
when it's the reasoning behind why we're sending people home, which is the most hypocritical
shit ever. I agree. And I think that's where I got the most frustrated is listening to even when
they're not talking with Jeremiah, but talking amongst themselves. Like, you know, he's doing the
same thing. He's not going to branch out. He's not going to do this. He's not going to do that.
We saw this with Huda. It's like, all right, time out, guys. Because, and we talked about this last
episode, Taylor, who are you talking to? Ace, who are you talking to? Austin, who are you talking to?
So they use this defense to get rid of Jeremiah, but at the same time, it's like, you guys are all doing the same shit.
And you guys have all been with the same woman since the beginning, except you're not closed off.
Correct.
And Ace, you don't count because you're the biggest perpetrator of them all because you got paired with somebody else and you refused to put in effort because you had two conversations that didn't vibe.
And then you took all your shit and went to soul ties.
So they're all standing on this soapbox inside of a glass house just throwing rocks everywhere.
And at the end of the day, we chalked it up perfectly the last episode.
They're jealous of Jeremiah.
And A.C.
Most jealous of Jeremiah.
And so he took his big head and stuck it in the middle of everything and got rid of them.
Yeah.
And it's really tough to not do the line of thinking of, well, maybe America really does like Jeremiah.
Maybe the America vote to get him away from Huda was to save him.
and now we're seeing him hit it off with somebody else.
Maybe America loves Jeremiah.
We need to get them out of the house so we can win.
That's the problem.
And when that starts happening,
when we,
the audience,
start to think that that's happening,
we lose the plot and we lose the show.
And we lose all interest in what's going on because we don't see it as real.
We think it's fake.
Everybody's doing it for their platforms,
whatever you want to say.
It's agendas.
It's agendas.
And that makes it not fun.
It's all agendas,
but it's across the board.
And it's worse than I thought it was because the discourse after they go home,
even from the girl's side,
Sierra's sitting there saying,
well,
you know,
we had to send Hannah home
because,
you know,
she was,
she was kind of just coupled up with Pepe
and,
you know,
she was coupled up with Charlie.
It's like,
okay,
she was coupled up
with two people within a week
and she seemed happy.
Within two days.
Yeah,
within two days.
So like,
isn't that what the show is?
I'm sorry.
And also Hannah has shown
that if somebody interesting,
somebody hot walks in,
she's probably going to start talking to them.
That's what she's saying
in all of her confessionals.
you guys aren't you guys are boring and you're not closed off if you're closed off at least i'd have some
respect for you if nick and sierra just fully closed off which nick wouldn't they closed off after
they had sex for 25 seconds the other night respect go for it you know what maybe you guys will
win and if that's what you want to do go for it that's great ace and shelly i'm surprised that
ace didn't pull the move of trying to close off with shelly as soon as he got her because again
that puts him in a position of power we're the only closed off couple in the house i'm going to tell
you guys what to do which is what he's already doing but at least he's sort of
untouchable at that point.
So it's kind of tough to even like break that down.
It's just annoying.
And the worst part was,
Ace is trying to push his agenda.
He's sitting there talking about the girls vote.
And he's saying,
why did you not send a Maya home?
I'm sorry,
but you leave our Maya papaya alone.
We love him.
If she goes home and she almost did and I was like,
get the fuck out of here,
you can't send Amaya home.
We need a Maya on this show.
We need to find somebody that loves Amaya.
But until that happens,
she should have immunity.
But the craziest shit that Ace,
that A. said was like, she doesn't vibe with my personality. So like we need to get her out of here.
It's like, you're not the king of the house. She's not here because you do or do not want her to
stay. That right there, that line, it was almost like a Freudian slip. That tells you where he thinks
this pecking order is in the house. And he thinks that he has a lot more say. And unfortunately,
he kind of does than he should because he should be the recoupling of the second episode.
exactly and that was so big and like even without the the crazy ending that we get after that
and don't worry we won't spoil it in the recap episode but even before that i thought the second
decision of who went home actually somewhat righted the ship as well and we texted each other
because you did the same thing i did you texted me and said oh i think i understand the route they're
going you hadn't seen the last part yet i texted you immediately after that one part and i was like
oh i think i get it too and then we both got thrown off with a twist
but clearly they're they're trying to make things work and trying to move things around but as far as
this show goes when you have ace with this this hubris if you will of him being the one that dictates
what happens in the villa we have a problem and hopefully what happened in episode two might throw
that off a little bit but the comment that he made that you know pretty much i don't like amaya
so she shouldn't be here was very problematic for me yeah it's unbelievable that he actually
went that route. And for somebody who seems to know that he's on camera all the time,
that did look like a slip. It looked like a slip. The fact that he even said that I don't
like her. She doesn't vibe with the house. Whatever he's going to say. What does that mean?
He's insane because we're looking at this for a Maya's perspective. She's the only person in the
house whose friend isn't running socials. She's there to find love. She's there to have a good time.
And because of so hard. Sorry. Keep going. I'm sorry. No, no. She's she's trying so hard. That's
all I was going to say. Well, the thing that breaks my heart, this breaks my heart for Aramaia
Papaya because she deserves love and she deserves to be herself. But because of Ace, every time
she talks to any dude in the house, she has to clarify what their boundaries are. She has to
clarify that she's not too much. She just, she loves quickly and she says certain things. You should
not have to give this preamble every time that you're talking to a new man. You should be able to go
and be yourself. And if they like you for you, bang, you hit it off. If not, move on to the next
bombshell but ace has fucked her up so bad by being so rude and ignorant early on in her early
days when they got paired up that he's broken her and now she goes and every time she talks to a
dude it's literally outlining the things that ace said were a problem to make sure it's not a
problem with the future guy so she's not having that chemistry right out of the gate i'm hoping
i'm really hoping that what happens in episode two kind of gets her mojo back a little bit she
starts feeling herself because she shouldn't feel any type of way because some
big head short dude is going to tell her that he doesn't like the way she operates like that's
poor shit but watching how it's affected her interactions with all the other men that come in
genuinely bums me out because she doesn't deserve that no she definitely doesn't deserve that
and it's tough and she'll find somebody at some point hopefully she makes it long enough
that will be able to just right up front because as we know from casa more the way that they're
talking they watch the show they know what's going on and amaya knows that they watch the show
so she's doing the same thing so it is kind of tough to watch and she's really going through it
she's having a really rough go which she doesn't deserve no um but like back to and then we'll kind
of put a button on it for now but back to what happens with jeremiah their reasoning and even
with hannah is that they're not challenging their relationships they're not challenging their
connections what does that mean let's just walk through right now okay ace got a shitty or very well
dealt the hands with Ulyssa.
He ended up being single right away.
No challenge there.
He then had a Maya who he cut off immediately and slept in soul ties.
Not really much of a challenge there.
Not really much of the game either.
Then finally got Shelly after working to get Shelly for weeks when we never believed that
she was going to actually end up with Austin and Austin was never really a threat.
That's not a challenge.
Now you're with Shelly and there's not a challenge.
Taylor and Alandria, neither of them have had a challenge.
Jalen was not a challenge.
We knew from day one that that wasn't going to work.
they had a little massage on the beach so neither of them have challenged and o'landry is the only one who's
actually explaining it now i i love o'landry i don't think this is the show for her if you're
going to sit there and tell me that you're a complete slow burn you don't kiss after you know it takes
you a week to kiss somebody taylor just seems disinterested in her and she thinks that he's enamored by her
which is crazy hey landria for life taylandria for life is fine tay tay tay taylor
taylor sucks dude come on he's a loser you really think do you really think that after all
lobbying I've done for Taitlandria that I would jump ship now.
I'm riding this train until the very end, sir.
You're going to feel bad.
It's going to be a dirty ship.
No, I already have.
Don't talk about my ship.
Don't talk about my ship.
Don't talk about my ship.
You have no idea what I have on my ship, okay?
And the whole thing that I'm trying to say to you, and I have a theory about it later,
you think that I didn't think.
Terrible dreams.
Do you think that I didn't think through my Tailandria theory after watching these two
episodes to make sure that I was in a good enough place where I'm like,
okay, I think this is the route we're going to go.
You really think I'm not.
You're just going to sync with the ship?
A good captain goes down with the ship.
A good captain goes down with the ship.
That's the only answer to that.
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Oh, hi, buddy.
Who's the best?
You are.
I wish I could spend all day with you instead.
Uh, Dave, you're off mute.
Hey, happens to the best of us.
Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers.
Goldfish have short memories.
Be like goldfish.
But anyway, Taylor is not interested.
He's never been interested.
But also, they've never been talking about.
Nobody's walking in to,
challenge his connection. Jalen, we love Jalen. We're happy that he's got a great life now outside
of the villa. Yeah, I'm stoked for him. But he wasn't a real challenge. So let's do that. Nick has a
wandering eye. He'll go after anybody. But Sierra is enamored by him. There's no real challenge there.
Every conversation that we've seen. So I've just walked you through the top three players on Aces chart.
None of them have had to challenge anything. They're not even challenging themselves by talking to
other women. They're not doing anything. So why are we now saying that Jeremiah was going to be right back
into another spot they're like he's going to love bomb her it's not your problem he's not going and
branching out and trying to steal your girl you would also have a problem if he came over and started
hitting on shelly so like i i just it's such a problem yeah the problem is she came in andrina
came into the oh andrina i think you could argue hooda as well you could i think that was just a
play by ace i still don't think a lot of people think that he was into hooda and then that's where
it started where he's like fuck i wanted hooda i think that i don't think that's true
to it here's what I think I don't think so to the extent of like he wanted to couple up with her
I just think that he has a really big ego and the fact that Huda would rather be with somebody
else period that any girl would rather be with somebody else I think that rubbed him the wrong way
I don't think it had so much to do with Huda just him being the second choice I think is
what got him and I think that carried over into the future because what happened with
Andrina is when she came into the house,
sure.
What?
I was doing the Squidward Future thing.
Go on.
I said, what?
With Andrina, when she came into the house, you saw the reactions.
That was a very successful bombshell drop because it shook everybody.
Every dude there was like, oh, my God, I want to talk to her.
Yeah.
Ace included.
Ace was drooling pretty much.
And who does she go for?
She comes in saying, I want Jeremiah.
she gets Jeremiah
Jeremiah goes from a really bad
situation with Huda,
writes the ship,
and that gets into with Andrina.
And at the same time,
when he's talking to us and the confessionals,
he's like,
hey,
this is how I'm going to go about it.
We're going to be friends,
blah, blah, blah.
It's like,
oh, so you've learned from your mistakes,
you're going to approach this a little bit differently.
And the crazy part,
and I've already done the dudes,
but as far as Sierra saying that shit about Hannah,
I was like,
Hannah,
even when she was like in love with Charlie,
Like when they were really, really tight, she still smooched Pepe.
Sierra, the only time you're even getting close to smooching or doing anything like that isn't a challenge.
So you guys aren't even on the same level.
Hannah's playing the game.
She played it well.
She went through the ringer.
She got herself up and she started hanging out with Pepe and they hit it off.
She played the game.
So they're using all of these defenses to rationalize those two going home.
But arguably, those arguments work for everybody but Jeremiah and Hannah.
Yeah. No, it's almost as if they feel like the game is to couple up with somebody, stay with that person, and try to stay with that person until the end.
And then if people start to talk to you, then that's a challenge.
Instead of what it actually is, which is a bombshell walks in, whoa, he or she is hot, let me go talk to her.
Maybe I want to couple up with her. That's how the game should actually work and that's how it really should be played.
Instead, where everybody's just playing it's safe and it's like, it's so fucking annoying because it's,
really just as long as I'm in a couple and America doesn't vote me as the least
liked couple and we're going to go home at that point I can stay in this game for as long
as I want we know what you're doing and that and grow my brand I can maybe make a hundred
K blah blah yeah yeah I agree but yeah for the the Casa more rules obviously you know the girls
they go to Casa more boys stay in the villa with their blindfolds on the girls come in
a little underwhelmed you know the guys
Um, bit mid, I would call the guys.
A bit?
The dudes, they here, I will give them this.
I like Chris.
I'll give them this when they came back, uh, like for dinner and like when they were hanging
out later, I was like, okay.
A couple of them are, are some handsome dudes and like, it made more sense to me.
The original reveal of the lineup of dudes and Casa Moore, I was wildly underwhelmed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I will.
say for the dudes, they have vastly different personalities than everybody in the OG
past, which is what we need because, yeah, you know, we've watched the OG cast for a little
while. So we understand their little quirks here and there. But when it comes to a personality,
when it comes to holding a conversation, they all suck. They're all so bad at it. And then all of a
sudden, we're watching the conversations that are happening in Casa Moore, even with the guy who I thought
was a complete dud, which was JD, seems like the nicest guy in the world. They all seem like good
dudes he's got such a better conversation piece than everybody else like he can actually hold a conversation with huda
we've heard her say so many crazy things it was a normal conversation with her which i can't wait to get to
because she did something funny but it just listening to them talk now the girls coco seems great
um some uh charr somebody called clark chuck on tictock that's like i like clark i like clark i like
Coco um jaden grew on me jaden i think jaden's the best of the group to be grew on me for sure
initially i was like i don't know and the more i i came to enjoy her corkiness and uh the laugh i think
is really funny because she just seems like you know a little weird but doesn't give a fuck and
i'm cool and then there's a maya who you know she laughs when something's funny which i always
appreciate yeah me too which is nice uh but with the dudes
back to the Casa more lineup.
And I'm so sorry if whoever's listening is like big on this guy.
Alon's not a serious person.
Alon, like when he walked in,
but here's the thing that blows my mind.
Everybody wanted to smooch him.
So maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm not seeing what I'm supposed to be seeing.
He's a plain looking attractive white man,
which is like, okay.
With a weird beard and like,
He's like Timu Jack Harlow.
Like, it's wild to look at.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah, he's like Josh from Potomac.
But, no, you know what he is?
So Josh is knock off Jack Harlow.
This guy is knock off Josh.
So he's two steps down from Jack Harlow.
Sheesh.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, this is the problem too with all of these people.
It's so difficult to like, we're going to have to focus on 24 people when they all come back to the villa.
That's insane.
You've got to get rid of these people.
No, they're going to whack a bunch.
But I don't know how they're going to be able to whack them.
I know there's got to be a big thing here.
And we'll try to figure that out if we can.
But I don't understand how they're going to be able to just get rid of Casa more dudes or girls without getting rid of an OG.
And that's going to be tough because the producers never want to do that.
So it'll be interesting to see how they play that one out.
But first impression of the dudes even for the second episode, Elon can go.
Zach with the C can go.
like Zach and Iris they are getting zero screen time and I like Iris I think Iris has grown
on me a little bit she seems normal but like Zach Zach can go he's boring as that is Iris
Zach with a C Zach with a C Zach with a K I can't understand what he's saying because he talks
Zach with a K I'm still on the fence with I think he can potentially be an important
an important piece on this show he did he did something really cool
And he also did something that I was like, well, what the fuck are you doing?
Yeah.
So he's a little up and down for me.
But I'm okay with that as far as a cast member goes.
I'm okay with up and down and wacky.
Zach with a C?
That's Ira Sac.
That's Iris Zach, yeah.
He sucks.
He can go.
He is so blah.
And he's so blah.
I texted you this line because never in my life have I been more like, what the fuck, fuck you.
She says to him,
oh you've been to Australia and he replies of course shut up of who are you
has of course no most people in the states have not been to Australia so of course just
makes you sound like a pretentious douchebag I hated that I read that drove me up a
fucking wall dude I was like this guy needs to go now he needs to go immediately he's got to
go immediately there's just no other way around it it's just so boring but he does
have the equal participant
who is also involved with
Iris on the other side of things
who is so goddamn boring
in TJ
TJ's guy I can't with fucking
he's so goddamn boring
I thought he was gone
the fact that he I knew he wasn't gone
but the fact that he rated all of those
girls as a low number
thinking it was the OG cast
plus you know Amaya and Iris
who he's interested in
giving them all low grades it's like
What do you think you're some cool dickhead?
He's trying to nag him a little bit.
Yeah, he's a loser.
And then he has no personality.
And seeing after that all shakes out and we'll kind of go through this,
we're a little sporadic right now.
Let's go through this.
Let's get to the smooches.
Well, we don't even really, the smooches are fine.
I was just going to say, like, who they choose is probably more.
Unless you've rated all the smooches.
Did you rate all the smooch?
No, no.
I guess my comment on the smooch is.
No, I more meant like, let's start there chronologically and then move forward.
We don't have to break down each kiss.
I agree with you.
The T.J. thing was, I think what this show does to very average midmen is give them a false sense of confidence.
T.J. is nothing to write a home about.
He's got the personality of your vape.
Like, that dude is not a catch by any means.
And I haven't liked him really since he came on.
Then I found out that he played D2 baseball in Tampa.
And I was like, oh, that's probably why I don't like him.
But not because of the division.
I'm not a division snub, just the tracks.
Does it not track that that dude played baseball?
It absolutely does.
He's from outside of New York.
He's from Westchester.
So he's got a rich daddy.
He played JV.
He played JV too, by the way.
Yeah, he played JV at D2 in Tampa, which is, and I'm sorry if anybody went to Tampa,
but you remember that little program.
Let me just do this, though.
Tampa, I do, but Tampa baseball is actually really, really.
They get a lot of draft picks every year.
Yeah.
I wasn't going to say that.
I was going to say to the.
the little thing that we used to do in college counseling where you would like click on colleges and you or you would put in your information and it would give you like a full breakdown of all the colleges and you would go like geographically you could like pick on Florida if you really wanted to go to Florida and it would give you all the schools that you could get into there were two colleges that always popped up for anybody and even the biggest dumb dumbs in our class what was that Tampa Tampa and and Elon's North Carolina it's a Florida school
It's a part of school?
Oh, Rollins.
No, Barry.
Okay, Rollins is a good school.
Rollins is a pretty good school, but that's all rich kids, too.
But yeah, so it checked out.
As soon as he said he went to Tampa and he's from Westchester, I'm like, yeah,
rich kid, go to Tampa, not that smart, no personality.
Going to go try to play baseball, play JV the whole time.
Like, I love, there's a guy on TikTok who breaks down anytime somebody plays a sport,
which Chris is actually a good basketball player.
I need to see him versus Pepe, even though they play different positions.
But you got to get a hoop in the villa.
I need a hoop in the villa and I want to see these two hoop.
That's what I would love that.
I would love that.
You know, I won't hold my breath for that one.
But yeah, dude, TJ's fucking lame as hell.
DJ has the personality of Greek yogurt.
Yeah.
You know, bland is a little sour.
He's not going to kill you, but, you know, it's not the healthiest, but it's okay.
It's healthier.
I don't know.
I meant he's bland with a little sour aftertaste.
That's what the DJ.
But anyway, let's substitute for what you really want, and that's sour creet.
There you go.
That's it.
Boom.
You nailed it.
Way to put the cherry on top.
Thanks, pal.
But, yeah, let's get to the choices that we make because, and the rules are just to get everybody up to speed, since it's a new cost of more setups.
We're all on the same page here.
The rules are there's six dudes, five girls, and then vice versa in the other house.
Whoever's left.
Six guys.
Thank you.
Whoever's left standing solo of the OGs is vulnerable and can be sent home after this whole thing.
So they have 24 hours to find a connection or else they're gone from the house,
which I also didn't love this either because it sets up that this solo person,
everyone else is going to know, like, you're just buying to stay in the house at this point.
This was.
Well, these people aren't the smartest.
So I will say in Casa Amor, that one made a lot more sense.
for when we get to that that made a lot more sense to me but tj being the lone dude in the villa
he was going to be fine like the he picked vanna and like i don't think that there was a thought
from vana that he was going to do something weird or nefarious like she just thought he was into her
like oh sweetie come on he's just trying to stay in the game it took two seconds and she was like
oh i wish i was sleeping in your bed i was like wow that was easy yeah you didn't even try and like
yeah then he was still worried that something was going to have
happen like okay but like ace wasn't trying like i get that part and here's the other thing too and
it's just because van is not his type once again we're there ace goes into a confessional
when everybody walks in and he's like oh boy like here we go like rubbing his hands together all
excited vana picks him and then he goes to that type shit type shit type shit and vana picks him and he
goes to confession goes give me back my shelly where's my shelly at i'm like okay so you didn't
get the girl that you wanted so now you're sitting here
you're going give me back my
Shelley and then fast forward
and I think that this
might turn into a thing by the way I think
this and I think also on the flip side
Coco or Shelley
I think she might leave
them and I hope she does
I hope so because look exactly what we
need we need and then to be vulnerable
I would love that and like here's the other thing
and this is what made a lot more sense to me
and it is important to note because when the
dudes walked in again I was wildly
underwhelmed when you find out like
the average height is 6.4.
I'm like, there you go.
There you go.
Okay.
That makes a lot more sense.
That's how we fixed this.
We filtered in the height.
But yeah, so T.J.'s left standing alone.
Nick was the other one that was a little bit late because Taylor somehow fucking got two people.
No idea how the hell Taylor got two people.
That's baffling.
Just completely baffling.
He's boring.
But yeah, Nick ends up standing alone for a bit until Clark pops over to him.
And then everybody is pretty much coupled off except for.
tj who is vulnerable so as we said before he's going to spend the next 24 hours just desperately
trying to make a connection which only took him about 35 minutes so he's pretty much going to be
safe at this point but we do find out well we won't find out about the recoupling until the next day
but we'll go through the girls because the girls is a little bit more interesting i agree at least
from the couple we spent way too much time with the dudes by the way i wanted to see what was going on
in cost them more i didn't care what was going on with the dudes at all me neither i had no
It was like 35 minutes in the villa with the dudes.
I'm like, how long is this episode?
Oh, shit.
It's an hour and a half long.
Like, did we really need all of this?
I know that we want to see like all the kisses because that's what Love Island's all about.
But like, Jesus, just like speed it up.
Like, yeah, speed it up just 50%.
That's all I ask.
I agree.
I don't know why it took that long.
And back to one more time and we'll move on.
The TJ thing was crazy.
six, five, five, six.
Who the fuck are you, dude?
Even if you thought it was the OGs.
Like, what are we doing?
Yeah.
Like, imagine you're just hurting your chances of getting a better kiss because they started
skipping you.
Like, and then he's like, well, I didn't even get a kiss.
So like a two, I got a pat.
It's like, why do you think, TJ?
Who would want to kiss you?
You loser?
Yeah.
He needed to go, bro.
He needed to go.
And I'm bummed that he didn't.
But he's got to go expeditiously.
Let's stay on track.
and stay on track it back to the ladies and their choices you oh me oh how about that
so yeah so let's we'll get we'll get back to the ladies and their choices left standing
alone weirdly was alandria oh you mean after the whole oh i i just meant like uh because i don't
remember exactly who got two to stand with her i think it was sierra i'm not positive it was elon and
back maybe that stood with her.
I think, yeah, and then she went with Alon.
And then she ended up going with Alon.
And then poor Amaya, Papaya, standing there alone.
Alandria standing there alone was interesting.
I was heartbroken when Amaya was the last one standing.
I texted you.
I was like, dude, this can't happen.
No.
Yeah.
And I think I had already texted you and just said, well, I don't know exactly.
I tried not to spoil it.
So it didn't really matter.
I appreciate it.
But Alandria sitting alone at first looked weird.
but then when you realize the conversations that she was having she was talking to them all about taylor
she was going to her confessional talking about taylor and that's also tough to hear because we know
taylor doesn't really give a shit and now that's not true in the don't say we do not say we
we as a whole not you and and we know further in the next episode that he's not even thinking about her
so whatever but when it comes down to this zach with a k doesn't get chosen so he then pops over to elandria which
never really had any chemistry to begin with poor amaya has to stand there alone she's
oh by the way they're not even playing the same sport it's not like a lander's out of his league
they're playing different sports yeah that was never going to happen and he knew it was never
going to happen but she's way too good for him yeah uh so amaya has to stand alone and it's like
okay here we go here we go again we got to deal with this i don't want to deal with it she was
handling it okay but like i thought she's stressful it was stressful the other part is like at this
juncture, her ego and like confidence level has to be at an all time low.
And like that's what really bummed me out for it.
Because she says, you know, I know my worth, I know this, I know that.
And I was like, you need to.
Like I want to grab her and be like, hold on to that because you are something.
You are worth it.
Don't let these fucking B squad rejects make you feel sad about yourself because you're better
than that.
She truly is.
She is so much better than that.
The other little piece of this.
whole group up on the Casa Moore side is Huda, she's worried that she's lost it.
It's been so long since she's been back in the game.
Oh, she got back.
What are we talking about?
She definitely got back.
And she ends up with JD, who I guess it kind of grew on her because at first it didn't
look like she was interested at all, but she was just happy to be standing there
was somebody.
Oh, yeah.
And a little bit later when they're in a conversation, it seems like she's like, whoa,
maybe this is the guy for me.
there's your proof during that conversation that it really wasn't Jeremiah it's
that it was doing all of these 100% the shit that she says was like it painted the picture
of exactly what happened with Jeremiah yeah she's like he has everything that I look for and
I have everything that he looks for I was like based on what that conversation that you guys
had where he pretty much was just trying to say to you like yeah I know you're nuts but like
it's cool she pointed it out
which this was insane she pointed it out
I assume that you already know
that I have a daughter and he's like yeah
yeah that's fine she's like have you ever dated somebody with kids
he's like I've dated somebody with kids before like
it's not that big of a deal I didn't like that answer actually
I didn't like the answer necessarily
either I felt like it was a little dismissive
but she loved that answer
and she immediately had that look in her eyes
that we haven't seen since Jeremiah and it's like oh boy
please jd seems
I don't want him to be victim number two here
but her response stands for is Jeremiah
I can't do it.
He's French.
But she goes another step when he obviously just returns fire.
Have you dated guys?
Like, what do they think about when you have a kid?
Oh, it doesn't really matter to them.
They never care.
Then why you're holding so close to the chest?
It's your whole thing.
That is your whole fucking thing.
You held on to it for so long, finally told Jeremiah that freaked out when he cared.
Maybe that actually explains things.
And then every single person that.
tried to give you shit, you then turned on them and said, look, I'm a mom.
This is what I do.
Stop holding it accountable.
Stop holding yourself accountable for this and talking about how you have a kid back home.
If you say the guys that you date don't really give a shit.
Like, you seem to not care.
It just doesn't make any sense.
It was, it was so rattling.
I just didn't understand it.
But I think the guy I like the most is probably Chris.
6-8, just good-looking dude.
He's with Shelley, kind of took.
Shelly by surprise seems very mellow good personality can hold a conversation actually played good
basketball he went to fresno state i don't know if you saw that one but he played a fresno state for a
couple of years and he was pretty good and then he went over and i don't know if he's still playing
uh he said he didn't say retired he said that he's playing i am a professional basketball player
yeah which you know if he asked if he asked me today versus last week i actually think that pepe's
the number one guy in the group right now so i love that it's a big change for me after this last
week because I was giving up shit for his retirement from basketball after not having many stats.
I feel bad now, but Chris I really I really did like and I do hope I hold the same sentiment that
you do. I hope that Shelley likes him back and it becomes a whole thing because a 6-8 man walking
back into the villa with Shelley, 6-8 basketball player, a fucking athlete walks in and sees
ace just looking down like, wait, where to go?
Yeah, okay. Step on him. Oops. Which one's ace? I see Austin.
I see Pepe.
I think I've played him before.
Oh, wait, I skipped over somebody.
I got to get down on my knees.
What's your name, little guy?
That's pretty great.
Yeah, rub him on the head.
Like, give him a little pat on the head.
Like, hey, buddy.
A little scratch on the noggin.
Hey, sweet, drive him in the sand.
Hey, sweet guy.
Hey, little tyke.
Yeah, that's where we are.
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The other thing I didn't love about this setup is the scramble that we see after the fact
because we have 24 hours, which is not actually 24 hours.
It's probably more like 12 of actual awake time.
or you're mingling.
Good breakdown.
And it's just, it's not good enough to really, if we want to harbor connections and not for the sake of falling in love, but for the sake of chemistry on the show, I need to see more time with this.
And that, to me, points to your theory of the producers hit a no shit moment.
Yeah.
And they were trying to scramble to make something work.
How are we going to shake things up?
They're too close.
They're closing off too early.
What do we do?
We throw a wrench into it like this.
And I think the biggest evidence of that is how this episode actually ends because they're like,
okay, now we scramble too much.
We got to reel it in a little bit.
I think that's what happened there.
But there's no way that the episode ends that way if it's not pre-planned with those two people.
Because if it were instead of the one person, it's the other person who was up for it or vice versa.
Like, there are two very, and I love Amaya Papaya, but if she ended up staying single the whole time and did what happened, and it was TJ on the other side, they're not doing what they did at the end of this episode.
There's no way.
There's no way it hits nearly as hard.
Then I have to start to wonder, how much are the producers actually impacting everything?
Did they wait to see how it shook out during the day and then said, okay, now's the time to implement planned fucking pull up in a fucking Mercedes?
and pick them up like is that what they did oh operation g wagon operation g wagon that's it was on the
tip of my tongue i forgot about it i didn't read the debrief but like there's just no way that if it shook
out the way if everybody stayed the same in their couples maybe swapped a little bit here and there
but the same two lonely people were lonely at the end no chance to do the same thing because even
if it happens they do the same thing we're going to watch it home and go all right like yeah okay
no we would be we would be furious on the one end on the one hand i'd be lit we don't
already said tj's going home so we would have been like oh my god this is miserable why the
fuck is he getting saved right now i would send him an uber to the airport to make sure he got
home faster yeah and like the what is it what's the basic uber uber x x yeah we're sending him
an uber x shared ride even yeah oh a wait and save actually no i have to do it we're gonna wait
wait wait and save carpool for you i'll schedule him three different ubers depending on how much
turbulence happens on the ride home.
No, we'll hire him a bike taxi.
There we go.
What's his house from Southern Hospitality to bike taxi his ass over there?
That's a good call.
But yeah, you can see the strategies just kind of breaking out because obviously the couple
up was weird.
It was bizarre.
Yeah.
The bombshells, the CASA people, whatever you want to call them, they get to choose who
they want.
You know, that's not going to last.
So obviously, we're going to have to figure all of this out.
And as people are just trying to get to know each other, we find out.
There's going to be a recoupling tonight.
Hey, guys, guess what?
Even I was like, let's do it again.
Like, what are we doing?
I would argue there's, look, I'm a rookie.
I would argue there's already been too many recouplings this season.
Am I wrong?
I think there, no, you're not wrong.
And the way that they're doing it without like, it's really just like the islanders
voting to have people home.
Like everything just feels off and it feels like they're scrambling a little bit.
I think they tried to do a couple of new things in the beginning and it backfired
on them and now they're like trying to correct course yeah we got we got to fix something here so i don't
god only knows what the hell they were doing down there but yeah they did have to figure something out
oh that was the thing i wanted to point out uh ariana is still very active on instagram as we know and
on ticot so she sometimes just likes comments that indicate where we're going with this and somebody
commented that because everybody's playing it's safe they had to do casa more a little bit differently
so that they could shake things up.
And she liked that comment on a random conduct,
which is like, okay, cool.
All right, now we know.
So that is confirmed.
She likes talks one time.
No big deal.
Pretty sweet.
Pretty sweet.
But yeah, you can see the strategies just kind of trying to break out.
I guess we'll start on the boys side.
That one's a little easier to follow.
Because actually, no, there's more moving pieces on the boy's side.
So let's just get it out of the way.
Everybody is pretty unhappy.
Ace hasn't even talked to that.
he hasn't even said a word to her really and again furthering that he's not playing the game uh-huh
he's got his he's got his sights set on cocoa and it looks like taylor's got his eyes set on uh clark
who is currently with nick not that really matters and they all just start going to town
they're all just trying to figure out their own recoupling situation who am i going to vibe with
who am i not tj is still frantically running around even though he already had a conversation
with vana where she said i want to sleep with you tonight so he's still panicking he's still
I wonder if it kind of said in a little bit where he's like,
maybe I can do better.
He's the type of guy that like you're safe.
You are fine.
Just lean into that.
And if what you're doing is just biding your time until Iris comes back
because you feel like you have a connection there, then fine.
Just stay with Vata.
Like this is a layup.
This is easy.
She's showing so much interest.
And instead he's like, shit, I don't know what I'm going to do.
I'm really nervous.
And he starts talking to other people.
It's like, dude, what do you do?
you're going to fuck it up because she's going to see you and go oh maybe i'm not in on that guy
yeah and then she's going to start talking to somebody else so like so yeah you can see that
and really what it's coming down to because everything starts to play out how you would imagine
it would it comes down to jaden who really again this is another conversation that we have had before
she's really into austin because their conversations are incredibly deep and it just seems like
a really good fit no they're not deep watch those conversations like what are they talking about
like fucking lizards or some shit
he caught a lizard and showed her
because they could take pictures with their phone
which you know we've seen some selfies before
I need to see those photos
I don't know if I want to see Austin's photos
not all of them that the dick pick challenge
that's probably 99 dick picks and six lizard picks
and one pick of a lizard on his dick
I think they can text each other which is also
that shouldn't happen but um
but yeah the conversations that him and jaden are having
don't make any sense and you can tell Nick
kind of has an idea in his head
of, well, you know, Clark
and I aren't really that
interested in each other. She's
hitting it off with Taylor.
I better go over. I really like
Jaden when she walked in. So his conversations
seem a little bit better, but even then they wreak of
desperation. That's why
I didn't like the 24-hour thing.
I was like, it's not, 48 hours would have
completely changed this whole thing.
Would have made it so much different.
But I will say, back to that, I can't
brush past
without addressing it, more about the Austin and Jaden conversation.
Yeah.
And it being so deep in this connection.
Yeah.
It's literally, what superpower would you have?
Oh, teleportation.
I think it'd be so cool to look at something and be like, bam, you're there.
You know, it's so sick, bro.
But that's why I don't really understand that, like, he didn't like Amaya.
Amaya was so hype for those conversations.
And he was like, a little too much.
He's probably got in his ear, honestly.
I don't know.
Oh, no, he's actually not, he's not team ace.
He's anti-Ace.
Yeah, he's definitely anti-Ase.
I know Viola has Jeremiah about a clip that showed that.
And he was like, yeah, like Austin kind of understands what's going on.
So maybe Allison's playing super dumb, but he is also.
No, he is just dumb.
Yeah, he is just dumb.
Pepe, I don't think wants any part of any of the strategies.
I think he's truly just there to like find somebody.
What a gentleman.
He seems like a good dude.
During this, during the smooching, I know.
He's just a lovely man.
He's like, during the smooches, he did what you should have done.
10, 10, 10.
One girl got a nine.
Everything else was 10.
He's being respectful.
He is the number one guy in the group as of right now.
Yeah, by far, he's the number one guy in the group.
But while all of this is kind of shaking out, and even though we kind of know where things are going to fall when it comes to Coco and Ace and Clark and Taylor, Taylor and Clark are having a conversation.
And this goes side by side with what's going on in Casa more when Alandria is talking about him.
Alandria misses her boo.
She misses her, she misses her cowboys.
She says it a bunch.
She says it to anybody that's going to listen to her.
And we go over to Taylor who's just missing his horses and missing his family.
That's all that.
That part I wasn't, I'm going to nitpick a little bit.
That part I wasn't as like, dude, what the fuck?
When he rationalizes later with, was it with Coco or was it with Clocker?
or was it with Clark?
I don't know.
He's talking to somebody and he goes,
you know,
I think it would be doing you ladies
a disservice if I was still thinking about
her because I'm supposed to be all in
on this whole experience.
That's when I was irritated.
That's the daddy ace told me.
That's when I was a little irritated with him.
I wasn't actually when he said I missed like this,
like my horse and whatever
because I didn't expect him to say El Andrea there.
But when,
yeah,
it was Coco.
When she brings it to his attention and says,
well,
you have a connection there.
don't you? And then he kind of brushes it off. That's when I wasn't thrilled. But don't worry,
I have spun it in my head to be okay with this whole thing. I'll explain it in a minute.
Don't worry. Talangria lives. Whatever.
Talandria lives. But yeah, that's pretty much where everybody is situated in the boys villa at the
moment. It seems like everything's going to play out. And it's really just going to come down to
who does Jaden pick? Is Austin going to go home or is Nick going to go home?
But that I didn't even register. I didn't register. I didn't register. Oh, I knew. I could see a
shopping block.
I should have,
right?
Like I should have put,
but I didn't because I was so focused on other things.
You're focused on Taylor.
You got to,
dude,
you got to look at the hole.
You can't just look at Taylor and,
oh,
yeah,
I didn't look at your hole.
Fuck you.
Gross.
I didn't say my hole specifically.
A hole.
Yeah,
exactly.
Yes.
But yeah,
so let's bounce back over to the girls
because this one's a little bit more cut and dry.
everybody seems happyish sierra's crying because she misses nick which you know whatever
but nina's too far in get the fuck out of here yeah they're just all hypocritical it's just
driving me insane and look again i'm okay if you guys are like hey we're pretty much closed off
and this is a test and you know what i don't want the test i went nick and if nick's doing the same
thing on the other side that's sweet that's nice or if he's not and she comes home alone and nick is
coupled up, that would be awesome, but we're doing
Casa more so much differently this year. So
she is with
Alon and
again, you know, we've talked about him.
He's pretty fucking boring. He kind of looks like
Nick. She even says that. Like, I guess I do
have a type, but she still misses
Nick. So there's nothing there. They have similar hair,
I suppose, but no, they don't
really look like. That guy seems like a
caricature. Honestly, when he walked
in, I was like, they looked like
a caricature. You'd get on the, on the boardwalk
at the Jersey Shore. Yeah.
Yeah, that's definitely fair.
But there's not a lot of mixing up going on.
It seems like everybody's happy to be where they are.
That's where we get the Huda and J.D. conversation.
Amaya is running around frantically.
She's talking to, she was talking to J.D., who, again, seems like an incredibly nice guy.
Hooda was probably staring daggers at her the whole time.
Like, don't you do this to me?
Don't you do this to me?
But he seems like such a nice guy.
And that's when we get the conversation of, well, can I ask you what your boundaries are?
Am I allowed to call you, babe?
And am I allowed to touch you?
Oh, man.
It's like, oh, that's so sad.
And she starts crying and he handled it well.
He said, let it out.
He seems like a good guy.
So I don't have any issues there.
My issues with Ace.
Ace, look what you've done to this girl because you're a dick.
Like now she's explaining this shit away.
And then she's in tears.
Like that pisses genuinely makes me mad that some short, big-headed douchebag
is making her defend who she is to a stranger.
That's crazy talk.
But whatever.
to watch. And the other
promising upstart would have been
Zach with a K. And that's what
Amaya's next target is, because she needs
somebody to stay in the villa.
And she goes to Zach with the K, who's coupled up
with Allandria, but there's not a lot
of chemistry there, as we've seen, and we
see even more of that in a little bit.
They share a nice kiss.
And he seems,
dude, I have no idea what he said.
You know what I mean? You know what I mean?
And look, Peacock
needs to fucking figure out the subtitles because
Jesus Christ, what are we doing?
they're like either two scenes behind or they spoil it oh they're crazy i had to turn them
off i turn them off every time it's it's just annoying me at this point i can't get a read on
jack i think what he sees is an opportunity maybe that's all it's that's all maybe maybe it'll
move forward somewhere maybe he'll like her i don't know he's he's not really sure that's not it
at all i know it's an opportunity to stay in the villa if you're going to couple up with somebody
it's going to be her and that's huge for later when we do the recoupling but it really just came
down to the she kissed him she kissed him elandria didn't and that was the deciding factor yeah
because alandria in that conversation with sack with the k when he weirdly asks do you mind like
do you want to kiss outside of a challenge which i thought was bizarre it's not even how he's the
way he said it was even worse like i was to say i want to get to kiss you in the challenge which
a lot of people say because it's a setup for let's do it now she
She clearly picked up what you were putting down and wanted no part of it.
And he doubles down.
He goes, but you want to.
No, thanks.
No, thanks, champ.
Bizarre.
Just bizarre.
But she did say, you know, I'm a bit of a slow burn.
And I really, and she even spoke about Taylor here.
You know, we've got a really good thing in the, in the villa.
And it took us a little while.
And it took us, you know, over a week to get our first kiss, which, you know, at the time,
we thought you guys aren't into each other.
but now it looks like this is who a lander he is
and that's why taylandria will live on
you guys are all going to see it i'll get i'll save that for the end
i'll save the uh the taylander defense at the end
spare these nuts pal you're going to hear you're going to sit there you're
fucking listen to me but not yet i'm going to save it i'm going to go back to zach
with a k because i don't trust this man i don't like him he's a fuck boy
and he's playing this game for the wrong reasons i don't care for it
Because when he smooches Amaya, right?
And you know what Amaya is doing.
She's trying to stay in the villa.
I respect it.
Respect the game.
You do what she got to do to live another day.
So she goes in there.
They're having a conversation.
She smooches them.
When they're leaving that room,
I just keep the kiss to ourselves, yeah?
Why?
Why, Zach?
That's some, how, it's hard to be a fuck boy on Love Island because you're surrounded by
fuck boys.
I didn't make any sense either because it's,
It's your choice.
You know what I mean?
Like at the end of the day, which is, again, bizarre and it doesn't make any sense.
So they must have had this in the works from the beginning because you're going to give these bombshells in Casa more the choice of who they want.
And they're going to get the power of who goes home.
Not us, not the original cast, no one else, just them.
That doesn't make any sense.
So I don't really get that.
I don't really think he understands how it worked.
You didn't really need to do that because if you walk out and Amaya is saying, oh, yeah, we kissed.
Which she did, by the way, which is great.
then all of a sudden it's like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa is a landry on the chopping block like
what's going on here thankfully am i just sat down with elandria and said look this is what happened
and landry doesn't care she brushes it off look i appreciate you coming to me like a woman
which is huge but you didn't really need to tell me and it's okay it's not a big deal i got my
i would have said the same thing to you i would have told you still like and again amaya
shows her true colors in a very good way this is the second time we've seen her stand on
business with her friends she's in a bad position it
I'd love to see that, though.
That's like a good moment where she sits her down and they're talking because you can really tell outsiders' perspective as we're watching,
Amaya's a good person.
It's the second time she's done something admirable.
So the fact that she's on the chopping block is horseshit, but that's, you know, we've said that enough this episode.
But yeah, dude, like watching Zach move, watching him work his way through this whole whole situation.
I don't like them.
I don't trust them.
Like I said, I will definitely don't trust them.
We're credit where credits do always, right?
We always try to be that way.
I do think he's a good bombshell for the house just for the sole purpose that he will get messy.
Maybe unintentionally so, but I think he will.
And I think that's what we're missing right now is that factor of because the OGs are all wildly respectful of each other's connections.
They're really not going to step on toes.
And that's a problem, apparently, because we're getting a stagnant bill.
So I think when you sum it all up and then we'll get to like the big reveal and everything,
but when you sum it all up, I do think production saw a problem and they went and did the best
they could to fix it.
I don't have a problem with that.
I think the execution was poor.
I'm not, I'm not mad at like, hey, let's shake this up.
Let's pull an audible.
They should have thought it out a little bit longer.
And I think it would have been more fluid because what was.
we got was choppy it was frantic it was odd it didn't really make a whole lot of sense and the entire
episode we just found ourselves questioning who's going to be on the choppy block are they actually
going to go home which you know we do with everybody that actually goes home and then once it comes
down to it it's like okay shit all right cool so we'll just move right into the girls because
they're so easy to figure out nobody really wants to recouple nobody really wants to change the
question is if you have a stronger connection with amaya than you do with your current couple stand
up zack stood up almost you know right away at this point obviously the dramatic pause he stands up
leaves alandria out to dry and once amaya realized what was going to happen she broke down again
which she does almost every episode at this point she broke down in moments that it's not even that sad
she's just an emotional person she's just a very emotional person but you could see on everybody's face
much like on the boy's side, once they realize, oh shit, nobody's going to stand up for
Elandria.
And if they do, then one of us is going, and no matter what one of us is going home, which
was always the point.
It's funny when they realize what's going on, the tears aren't really flowing when Amaya is
standing up there, but Elandria goes up there.
Everybody's freaking out.
Everyone's sob.
I was so fucking mad at home.
And I was glad that Amaya didn't get whacked, but I was like, dude, no, not a lander.
And we talked about it for Z.
Zach, if he wants to stay for, you know, a little bit of time, maybe buy himself a little bit more time, maybe find another connection.
You can't stay with Alandria because once you go back to the villa based on how much she's been talking about Taylor, you stand no chance.
She's going to immediately re-couple up with Taylor and then you're screwed.
So for Zach, yeah, okay, I'll stand up.
I've got a better chance here.
Elandria handled it like a champ.
Everybody sobbing.
Nobody or everybody's probably she didn't cry.
Yeah, strong as hell.
and she did say, you know, oldest daughter of a single mother
had to take some things on myself.
It showed in this moment.
This is where Zach kind of won me over a little bit
because he did notice and say, like, look, I'm sorry.
I did what I thought was best for me.
I hope you guys don't think that, like, I'm a villain.
Like, he felt bad because everybody's just so different.
Oh, no, I think he really felt bad.
I think he was like, I do too.
And how can you not in that moment?
I don't think that he didn't feel bad.
Yeah.
but to me he then made the moment about himself and i was like not like that oh i didn't think
that at all i think that he just like didn't know what to do he was like what the it's almost like
how bad pepe felt after america voted for him and hana to be together and charlie yeah that was
he was like fuck me dude but he didn't make it about himself yeah but that was this one was different
because he actually made the choice to stand up versus pepe america made the choice so it's like
fuck why'd you put me in this position now i look like the bad guy zach was the one who's
stood up. So he's like, fuck, did I make myself the bad guy? And then he's just sitting there
like panicking. Like, oh, God, is everybody going to hate me because I did this? But in the end,
it makes sense. Like, it was the choice that he had to make. And Alandria was going home.
Pack your bags. Go on out. I was heartbroken. I was, I talked to myself for Elandria
because she's been my number one for so long. Because I just enjoy her. I, you know, not her couple,
but I enjoy her. I was talking myself into maybe this is the shot in the arm that
everybody needed like shit you guys are too safe you guys aren't doing anything if we're going to
send somebody home that america loves in the middle of all of this you got to get your shit
together you got to make some entertaining tv this is what's at stake she's going to go home now
because you guys are boring i was hoping that that was the move and then we move over to the boy's
side that was the shot in the arm for me for a landier wasn't this was for me i was like okay i get
that. Yeah, and this is where I texted you and I was like, I see the vision. I
kind of get it. Because obviously we have the swip swap, a little bit of this, a little bit of that.
Taylor is now with Clark. Ace is now with Coco. We're all playing musical chairs. Nick's standing
up there comes down to Jaden. Jaden, you're going to stand up. Everyone's looking at her.
Ace was staring at her. Like you're going to stand up right.
I have a theory. I think that Ace and or Taylor pulled Jaden aside and talk to her about it.
and said, are you going to stand up for Nick?
And she probably said, yeah, I'm thinking about it.
Or yes, I'm going to.
Because when she didn't stand up, he was completely confused.
And I think that she may have said that she was going to stand up, but she didn't.
She stays with Austin.
Nick is now out.
Everyone's freaking out.
Nobody knows what the hell to do.
That's what I sat at home.
And I'm like, this is what we needed.
We needed a shake up like this.
Nick goes home, Elandria goes home, word spreads throughout both houses.
what the fuck's going on everybody's panicking why would they do this who did this is this what
we're doing and then all of a sudden we might get a good show it's like okay fuck around find out
that that's how i felt like it was going to be but it's not because nick walks out of the villa
here comes the g wagon operation g wagon and a landry is calling him in we don't know what that means
we don't know exactly what's going to happen but i look i hope and pray that they keep it
keep them isolated for at least a few episodes here
and I don't know what that's going to look like
and don't tell them because I want them to realize
like fuck are we playing this too safe
is this getting to the point where we're going to go home tomorrow
because we don't have our shit together
like that's probably what the producers want
and that's what we want at home of course
we can get into some theories
unless you want to do your tail andrewish spiel
I will in a second I just want to comment on this
like ending part because I agree
that and you can tell by everybody's reaction on both sides they're like
it kind of was that that moment you needed where they all say at one point or another in one
way or another like wow this could be over tomorrow i think that's what sending those two
home did for the the oh geez they're like whoa we've all been assuming like we're gonna
that's my ace was so stunned at the vote because he was like well nick can't go home like that
can't happen and it did
happen kind of but it was definitely the shakeup that they needed to be like all right we need to
approach this thing differently now you know a lot of people just didn't watch that like there
were a lot of people that turned it off that they went home yeah that's so funny they thought it was over
so they just turned it off after nick got out yeah so a lot of people didn't know that and there
were so many comments on various social medias talking about it and then their comment underneath was
like did you not watch the whole episode yeah did you see the end of it it's really
Again, like we don't, we don't really know what it is.
I've got two theories and they're the most likely theories.
But again, if you want to do a little tail, Andrea, I'm not there yet.
I'm still talking about the end.
Oh, okay.
Give me a sec.
Just give me a sec.
All right.
What do you want to say about the end?
I'm working on it.
Jeremiah driving the car?
I know.
I'm on board for that.
No, that's a theory again.
Hold on to the theories.
No, I just want to say one thing.
because when Nick goes home, and if I see, if we get any questions,
if we get any questions of people bashing this, I'm going to be livid,
because I love when you see the dudes get emotional.
I loved the hugs, the tears.
I loved all of that shit, how close they all were.
I thought it was a very nice touching scene.
And that's all I wanted to say on that.
Now let's get to Talandria.
Well, I kind of hope that they tell both villas who went home.
I hope that the girls find out that Nick went home.
because you want to see how Sierra moves.
Oh, that's going to see what happens.
And then when the boys find out that Alandria went home,
you're going to see how little Taylor cares about Alamaria.
I disagree.
And I think this goes to my theory.
All right.
So here's what's going to happen because they've perhaps intentionally,
perhaps unintentionally set up a rom-com.
And I'm a big believer in the rom-com theory, as you know.
So what they've now done, they've sent Al-Andria off as far as Taylor's going to know
and he's going to be devastated.
He's going to be upset.
I promise you that because he's already emotional from Nick going home.
That's going to carry over that Alandria's gone home.
He's going to reconnect with somebody.
He's going to make a connection.
And I assume what's going to happen,
they're going to come back in at a point where Nick,
or sorry, Sierra and Taylor have both coupled up
and are moving forward in that couple.
That's when they need to bring them back and give them the choice.
You can save them and send your current couple home
or you can stay coupled up
and Alandria goes away forever.
What that's going to do
is the time away
is going to make Taylor realize
like shit,
what Alandria and I have
really is real.
And I need to do everything I can
and show her
what she's giving me as well.
And then his love for her
is going to grow.
And when he sees her return
and he has the opportunity
to get back with her,
he's going to be like,
this is all I've ever needed in my life.
You're going to have a big
sensual, sexy, so much sexual tense.
You can cut it with a knife, make out, kiss, all that stuff,
and all of the stuff that you guys have been saying,
they're lacking passion.
It's all going to come out in that moment.
They're going to be locked down.
They're going to close off Taylor for life.
God, you sound like the people after the first season of Game of Thrones
that said Ned Stark was going to come back the next season.
But, no, it's different.
His head was cut off.
Alandra is coming back as far as we know.
oh god um yeah i mean that is that is the one thank you that is the one no i'm not getting into
the specifics about thank you i think he's i think he's going to move on immediately and he's
going to have a better connection and then alandria's going to come back and he's going to
like well because you know ace is going to be in his ear like dude you you guys didn't really
have was in his ear about alandria weirdly enough um saying like hey oh that probably is why but
don't just to keep they care of the boys cared about the boys that's what we found out the most
They didn't give a shit when all the girls were gone.
Like, bring back my Shelley was fake, unless, you know, they're married in real life, which is a possibility.
But Nick didn't really care about Sierra, which we knew was going to happen.
He was more worried about saving his own ass.
That was the least surprising.
Taylor started talking to other girls, and he had like a different conversation.
It just looked like he was smiling a lot more.
They were already talking about it.
That's production.
That's editors.
That's not.
Ace and Nick talking about how much he's smiling.
Oh, yeah, because those guys are the guys I'm going to trust.
Ace and Nick.
That's what I'm saying, though.
As soon as they find out that a Landry is gone, you don't think Ace is going to say,
look, man, you're still here.
You have a great connection with Clark.
Just harness that.
You were smiling.
Here's all I got to say to you and all of the Tay Landria doubters out there is you guys
are not a thing.
You guys have been on this shit.
Hey, Landry is not a thing outside of you.
You guys have been on this shit for so long.
And every single time that there comes a moment where they could split or go a different
direction they stay together okay every time push comes to shove they stay together so all the evidence
is pointing towards me actually and you guys are all so blind to tailandria and this beautiful love
story that's taking a while to blossom that's not my fault that you guys don't understand love
maybe read a book watch a romcom or two i don't know what you need to do to fix your hearts
but you need to do something because tailandria forever these two are going to get married and they're
going to have a long beautiful marriage and lots of babies and grandkids and they're going to
grow up on the ranch and they're going to ride horses and then they're going to make a movie
about it where they're like oh my god have you heard the story of how grandpa and grandma met
well one time in fiji and then a horse nays and they gallop off into the sunset roll credits
taylandria for life i can do this all night baby god it is way too late to be doing this
Clip it.
Yeah, clip it.
And so you can see my face during all of that.
Jesus.
So back into the theories, yes, the idea that they would come back as bombshells at a later date.
And the opportunity, which would just be an ultimatum, stay in your current couple or leave your couple and couple back up with your original, which would then leave the other person vulnerable for elimination or, you know, send them packing immediately.
So you would have that immediate thought of fuck.
Do I really want to be send them.
It has to be the immediate.
Yeah.
You have to have the full ultimatum.
The other option is, and this is something else.
This is something I was thinking about last night, which I'd be very, very, very much so
less interested in this one, but I could see them doing it because they make the wrong move
a lot, flipping them, sending a Landria to the boys' house immediately and seeing what
happens with Elandria there, walking around with the new bombshells, seeing if Taylor's
splitting back and forth.
That would be messy, and I don't think it would really work that well.
I think Taylor would immediately just go back to O'Landria.
I do too.
So I think they need to let it simmer for a bit.
Same with the other side.
We've already seen Sierra crying over Nick.
If you send Nick over there right now, she's just going to couple up with Nick,
and then Elon's just going to be out.
And we need to see the fallout of that's going to be monumental.
Yeah.
Like, that's going to be wild.
I want them to tell each house that they're gone.
They have to.
And it has to sit for like at least 48 hours.
of like, oh, my God, I think it has to sit until the end of Casa Amor.
Because now it's, what are we doing?
I think it's two more days.
I think it's, they said two or three days, I believe.
Yeah, I think Monday night will be the first or when they come back or something supposedly.
So, yeah, the duration of Casa or more, you just, they're gone.
Because you have to harbor the connection of the new couple.
Like, you need Clark and Taylor to have a chance to get closer and vice versa.
So you need to have Sierra have the chance to get closer to Alon so that when it comes back, it's a much bigger.
The thing is, like, as far as Nick and Sierra go, like, as soon as Nick walks back into the house, it doesn't matter if it's a week or a month.
Like, she's going to jump back into his arms.
And then Taylandria is going to live on.
And you're going to be like, oh, my God, he's right every time.
There are more, like, there's more insufferable people out there, not just the Tate Landry people, which is really just you.
I've never seen anywhere else, but the Nikolandria people, which is they want Nick and
Alandria to have a couple of them.
I've seen that everywhere.
I don't understand that.
I don't.
They had great chemistry in the beginning, but I don't really understand it anymore for where we
are right now.
So they think that they're going to be forced, they're going to be forced to go on a date together
and see if there's some chemistry and then they're going to be hanging out at another villa
where it's just the two of them.
Or there's the crazy theory, which is everybody's coming back because they're taking
Ariana's word for herself
or for truth rather
of everybody comes back after Casa Moore
meeting everybody who got voted office coming
when I heard that that's what I thought initially
and Dev was like you're an idiot
I don't think that would that's too much
and then it's like a cluster fuck of
I don't think that can happen
but I wouldn't be stunned
because they've already opened the door to it
if somebody else is in that car coming back
I'm going to assume, I think we're just getting theoretical now.
I think I'm going to assume that we've got to the end of Kossomor with no Nick, no Elandria,
and then we're going to have a recoupling, and they're going to walk out as the recoupling starts.
And it's like, oh, yeah, you can also choose to go with Nick and Elandria.
And then, like we said, it has to be an ultimatum of if you decide to go back,
then your current bombshell couple, she goes home, he goes home, they're gone.
from the villa forever yeah all right well let's get into some questions see what the viewers think
try to figure this one out uh first one here from ashley web thoughts on amaya she drives me
crazy with the dumb act i don't get the public buzz well ashley you leave amaya papaya alone yeah
you just don't get it then she is the best she's the only like thoroughly entertaining person
in the villa austin with his dumb act is somewhat entertaining but it's not he drives me not
man he drives me
it started off as funny
and every once in a while
he says something funny
but like
I think because the show
is kind of like
taking a bit of a nose dive
in general it's
it's not as funny anymore
from Erica Marty
we need hoodas man
to fall in love
of the Maya their combo
was so cute
that's a statement
but yeah I actually
would like that
I would love that
curve ball in there
because I think that would be great
handled it well
and I think there's something there
I think that we will get
some more conversations
from that because I don't
I didn't see any chemistry
with Zach
and amaya that just seemed like he kissed her and that's what yeah that was the deciding factor
yeah uh from joanna pickles shooter how mad are you about the the casa twist of everybody coming
back i'm livid i don't fucking understand that i think it's i think it's stupid and you're
depriving us of one of the best moments of love islands so i don't know they better figure it the
hell out oh here's somebody that didn't watch the end from kitchens christopher can you guys believe
that elandria's gone do you think she's going to come back
Well, that's so good.
I just love it.
Like the credits didn't roll.
Like I watch everything until the credits roll.
It's not like it was a post credit scene and it was still there.
It was like literally Nick just walking out.
As soon as he walked out, it was like skirt, get it.
And that was the funniest part because it was clearly scripted a little bit.
Yeah.
Nick, get in.
Come on.
Like, let's get out of here.
From Amanda E. Miller.
Am I alone in feeling that production tried to control things too much and it's ruining the season?
I think that's what happened early on.
I think that what you saw this episode was that as well, but it's them trying to correct it.
I think what happened, and we didn't talk about the disclaimer in the middle of the episode,
which all the negative comments are going towards production from what I understand.
So are they just doing that for themselves, maybe?
But I don't think production was heavily involved at the beginning of the season.
they probably should have been when it came to Hood's crashouts and, you know, maybe removing her from the villa, which there's a new report that Love Island producers told people that they were considering removing her from the villa in the midst of all the Jeremiah fallout.
So, I mean, there was, there was grounds for like safety reasons at that.
Yeah.
We, you texted me during it because we were both so excited for the crash out and you texted me.
He's like, what did you say? This isn't what I wanted. This is uncomfortable.
Yeah, this is making me uncomfortable.
Oh, Clatchman, from Clatchman.
OMG, nothing better happen to a Maya papaya.
You get it.
Hell yeah.
You get it.
Jesus, from R.M. Laze, can you give a current power ranking?
We could have done that in the beginning of the episode, and it would have lasted the entire episode.
Like, we're an hour and 20 minutes in right now.
I can give you my top one and my bottom one.
Top three.
Okay, do top, top and bottom.
Um, top three, I, top, I said top one and, uh, bottom one.
Just do top girl, top boy, bottom girl, bottom boy.
Top boy, pepe, top girl, amaya, papaya, uh, bottom boy, ace, top or, bottom girl.
There's not really necessarily a bottom girl.
I'm going to throw Shelley down there just so she can be with ace, though.
nice
my top
is this
actually no I'm going to
switch mine up a little bit
top boy
I'm going on
old pee
top girl
I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with
the Maya but I was going to
say I'll stay I like that
my bottom boy is Austin
and girl is still
Huda I still think that she should have gone
oh yeah hood is bottom girl for me
yeah
hood is bottom girl for me for me for sure
Bonnie Rachel, these are two really funny ones.
Why does nobody have charisma?
It's a good point.
I've been, there's a lot of lackluster performances here.
And the other one is top three ranking of least sexual energy.
There's a lot of them that give off that, probably.
All the dudes give off.
Taylor, T.J.
Alon.
Alon and T.J. are bottom three.
Yeah.
Maybe that's just me.
I don't know, but it's just, I can't take them seriously.
Yeah.
Let's find one more.
Two more.
Two more.
This is funny.
Shooter can answer this, but I assume I know the answer.
From Sarah D.
This is my first season.
Do they always take forever to get to the point?
I would imagine yes.
Yeah.
Shooter can confirm.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, they absolutely do.
They always have.
Oh, Holly Tug, just an interim, then you can ask the last one.
The internet is saying Nick and O'Lander could be a match.
I don't see it.
Thoughts?
I think we agree with you.
I don't.
Yeah, we agree with them.
It doesn't match for me at all.
Mainly because of that is way too good for them.
What happens generally, and this isn't even a shot at steel,
but what people do is they hold on to an idea of a couple
in like the first episode and they just will not let it go and it's like there's so much evidence
that nick and alandria just would never work and they just refuse to look at it because it's like
oh yeah this is what we wanted weeks ago so we just want to be proven right at this point it's like
that's not what they're doing that wouldn't make any sense what are they going to do go on a date
and then go back to the villa and be like hey guys we're dating now like no they would just go back
to their couple i agree and i know like you're saying it's not a shout at me it kind of is
but uh i yeah i think that there's preconceived notions of like oh these two would really hit
it off and then it gets a little bit of you know a little bit of uh support online next thing
you know you have people clamoring for a certain couple i truly and i like nick i think he's
good for the show he's funny i don't think that he and elandria make a lot of sense and again
i'm going to stick with i think nick is is not good enough for elandria
this is funny last one here from uh because this is our number one guy in the group
from addison duchesne why aren't they showing pepe i couldn't even remember who he was coupled up
with pepe is coupled up and he just really misses hannah it seems but yeah he's just such a nice
guy he's with uh what the hell's her name jacklin jaden yes that's wrong jack jack jack
Is it Jackling?
Graceland.
Grayson?
Grayson.
Grayson.
I don't know now.
Yeah, he's both like, we didn't really see them at all.
So like it's not no fault of ours that we couldn't remember her name, but her name is Grayson.
I just looked at it.
Okay.
Thank you.
It was in my notes somewhere.
I just couldn't find it.
But yeah, so, uh, that's one of those situations where Pepe, same with Hannah.
Like when Pepe was with Hannah, when Charlie was with Hannah, when things are going smoothly
and they're not really doing a whole lot, we don't really doing a whole lot, we don't really
see a whole lot of them pepe i feel like he's just kind of like flying kind of close to the
grounds i mean maybe there is more there and we'll see more but right now there wasn't a whole lot
to see and they just wanted to focus on their big reveal at the end of the night oh i got i got
to do one more from linny 5 000 we got another one justice for elandria they should have kept
her instead of a my watch the end of the episode winnie finish it uh well you know what
you guys are listening to this now there's a new episode
tonight i love wednesdays because we can actually talk about things and when our episodes come out
we're not immediately proven wrong so this is great so if you're listening to this and it's thursday
and there's still a few hours until uh love island premieres for tonight go ahead and watch the end of the
episode yeah watch the end of the episode then get ready for the next one i will say this
and then we can wrap this bad boy up if they bring nick and elandrew back tomorrow or tonight i guess
I will be livid.
I'll be fucking livid.
This show will lose all of its loss.
Show us where they are.
You want to show us that they're in a different villa,
hanging out, watching footage?
Sure.
That's great.
If you could lean on the,
oh,
look at these to his chemistry popping up
between Nick and O'Landra
while they hang out in some resort waiting to get back.
I don't know,
but like,
do not,
do not throw them right back in.
For the love of God,
there's no reason to.
Do not.
Ooh, man, these episodes are,
take a lot out of you.
They're doozy.
We're almost an hour and a half in, brother.
Hell yeah, brother.
Hell yeah, brother.
Any, well, let's finish it with this.
Bold predictions.
We're still going.
No, no, no.
Just all I want is right now, based on current couples, who do you have winning?
Right now, if somebody had to be the winner, and then we'll say adios.
Sheesh.
Wait, with the more couples or like,
Oh, God.
Yep.
I'm going to say Pepe and Grayson maybe.
See, I'm either, and this is shocking,
but just the superhero conversation really stuck with me.
You're going to go with Austin and Jaden or Shelley and Chris.
So for them to win, America would have to vote.
So I just don't see America voting for Austin.
I mean, Jaden seems really cool.
I would love it.
I think she's actually, she grew on me over these episodes,
not to mention the fact that she's basically just stood up to Ace and his losers and said,
fuck that.
I don't have any chemistry with Nick.
She did the same thing that Zach did necessarily, like pretty much the same thing.
Like, hey, I can stay with Austin, who's with Amaya, who, you know, he doesn't really seem to like.
Or I can go to Nick who, you know, he's just going to go right back with Sierra.
when she goes back so um so yeah uh it's not bad i just i don't know how the voting is going to
break down for this one i think america needs to send the next people home though i agree we need to
write the ship here but yeah i was just curious what your gut reaction was on who's the frontrunner now
but who that's all i got you got anything else nope well that's our show bros got a good
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