Bros & Shows - Cheating BlockHead on Block Island (RHORI Full Recap S1E12)

Episode Date: June 16, 2026

What's up bros? We end the first season in Rhode Island with somewhat of a slow episode full of resolution but don't worry because Brian straight up admits that the video is real! So while his wife, Rulla, is spinning the AI story over and over again (while also resolving things with Jo-Ellen), here he is just copping to the story and moving on with his life. All in all, an absolute gem of a season and franchise that we're looking forward to seeing way more (than 12 episodes) of in the future! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming, Ontario. I had the travel day from hell yesterday. Delays, thunderstorms, shaky flights, but you know what the one thing that I can always rely on to pick up my spirits, Rhode Island. I thought you were going to say the facts

that we don't have to cover the valley for at least like five days. That too. That will also pick up my spirits. I know that you mentioned it, you just bummed me out. Yeah, it's the longest distance of the week. Like I always look forward to Sunday because it's like, wow. We're a couple of days removed.

We've got a couple of days until we have to deal with it. Let me focus on what really matters, which I've just been glued to my TV between the World Cup and watching Bravo and our Love Island stuff. It is, my TV is getting worn out. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a...

I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Bros. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brab Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I'm your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by Shuda Maguda. What's up, dude? What a season this has been. This episode played out pretty much exactly what I thought it was going to be. I figured we were going to get some normal

resolution. Obviously, you know, we'll be talking about picking cameras back up for the last scene, which I mean, that's God-tier housewife level. Your first season, we're already picking cameras back up to do things over again. Yeah, I know you didn't get any resolution or anything from it, so you're probably annoyed by it. But just it in a nutshell, the idea of months later picking up cameras for at the time, I guess at this time, Rola was probably a full-time housewife, which still doesn't make sense to me. But at the time, she's a friend up.

And we're picking cameras back up to talk about her husband getting arrested in your first season and getting not only one perspective with everybody at her house, but another perspective with Liz and Joe Ellen. That's fun to be. That, that's the note of a very good show. I agree there. Like 100%. The fact that we're doing that for our first season of a show is awesome.

And it's a testament to this show and its cast, not to Rula. Like the fact that she's getting rewarded and, I don't know, promoted for probably one of the worst seasons I've ever seen a housewife have, if we're going to really. chalk it up, especially in comparison to the rest of her cast. All of these ladies deserve a standing ovation. They deserve an award. They did so well. They came into this universe of housewives, and they fucking rocked it.

And they didn't look awkward. They were authentic. They were fun. They were everything you want a housewife to be. And then you have Rula, who has not addressed anything. She hasn't gotten into anything. She's not telling her story. She couldn't even leave her own house.

and she's getting promoted to be a full-time housewife because her husband's a fucking creep. This is not house husbands. She shouldn't get rewarded because Brian's gross. I don't think she did her job. I don't think she deserves a spot on this show. The other ladies worked way too hard to deliver a phenomenal product. And Rula is riding their coattails, and that's bullshit.

I feel very strongly about this. you're just up on your soapbox how dare they take away from all the hard work that these ladies poured into this show I look yes I in a way yeah of course I agree with you because I understand I just don't think it irritated me nearly that much I'm not even I don't care enough

I really got to be like I get I when you explain it I understand where you're coming from it's just not how like the show itself was so good and everybody else did such a good job and Rula didn't do it she wasn't really on the screen enough to really bother me. And also, that's what bothers me.

That's what bothers you. Yes. And like, maybe I'll have a different stance come reunion time when she's the second chair and we spend a lot of time talking about it and the question, which will never happen. And look, I'm not even going to do like the preemptive strike on Andy and the questions because they're not going to ask that question. They're not going to say, how does it feel to be second chair? How does it feel to be promoted to a full-time housewife and not really do your job the

whole time? So like, we're not going to get any resolution there. I think I've already just kind of predetermined in my brain. We're not going to get anywhere with it. And the rest of the show was so good that I'm really not bothered by it. I really don't care. I think that some of the things were funny. I thought that last scene sitting down at the table with Brian talking was really funny.

And I'm also looking towards the future for a show like this because it is their first season and they did so well. And also, weirdly, their personalities don't strike me as they're going to come in hot. Like, yeah, you might have a Rosie or a Kelsey come in next season and try to do a little too much. because they're working off of all the success that they had the year prior. But I think the core is still going to be the core. Like I think Joe Ellen, Alicia, Liz, assuming Liz comes back, they're still going to be the same people. I don't really see much of a change there.

And that's what makes them so great. So I'm looking forward. And even with Rula in that regard, I think we talked about it a few episodes ago. There's an arc that's obviously going to happen next season. I'm expecting separation by midseason. That's what we're going to be talking about or at least the idea of separation. Hopefully she's on it more.

and then by the third season she'll be going through divorce and hopefully she doesn't drag that on for too long. That's what I'm already thinking about. But the show was so good that I'm not even letting the, the miss impact of Rula being a full-time housewife halfway through the season really bother me at all. And I get that. I'm not taking away from the show.

The show was, it was nails all season. Like they had a perfect season, which is really hard to do. But my only issue is, again, it's like rewarding that, I think is kind of shitty, especially whenever, everybody else on this show, like, really went all in. And they should be rewarded for that. And it feels like rule is getting rewarded. And I think that's stupid.

But I agree with you. What, what do you say to the people in our questions that say, Steele likes to just complain about stuff all the time? That I am critical of these shows because I care. I care. I complain because I do it. It's a show that did extremely well.

I'm not going to be the only one saying this. Ripped expectations to shreds. What do you say that people out there that are going to say? Oh, here goes steal. I say read the comments. Other people are saying the same thing than I am. That's your fake. Those are your burners, bro.

We know what your burners are now. I don't feel like being gaslit right now because I pointed out the fact that rule is not doing her fucking job. So you can take your gasoline and you can pour it on yourself, Val. No, I just, I want, you know, to obviously highlight what an amazing show this was. I think I have all season. My snag has been the rule of storyline because it hasn't made sense. me at all. The fact that, you know, she's promoted. But we'll talk more about it as we get into it.

Let's start out. We're on Block Isle, are getting ready to go to Block Island, servants just packing and having conversations. And, you know, Liz is deciding to move forward with everything and not really get bogged down by the Joe Allen of it all. And she wants to be able to just squash this whole thing. I think that there's still going to be some unresolved tension that it's going to come out in the reunion if I had the guess. But we get to the ferry. And the big thing obviously is that Rula is going to be there. Brian's going to be there. Joe Ellen's going to be there. Gary or Jerry. I can't remember who's who. They're all going to be there. And we're still leaning so heavy on this thing, this idea that this is somehow Joe Ellen's fault. I forgot that Rula had said,

if there's proof, go find it. So you ask her to go do this. She gets you pretty damning proof. And yet somehow Brian's getting away Scott free and we're putting all of the blame on Joe Ellen. And even Joellen says, my problem's not with you, Rule. It's with Brian. I don't want to be near Brian. Yeah. Real quick, who's Ashley's husband? Jared, I know that one.

There we go. Okay. When you did that real quick, going from Jared to Gary to Jerry, even I got confused. And I feel like I've been the one who's been trying to keep it all together. I forgot for a second. But yeah, the whole Joe Ellen thing with Rula, I mean, again, Rula has not had nearly enough screen time for us to get to a point. And I kind of did that thought process going through this because obviously they're all

on Block Island together. They have to spend time together. So it'll force the issue. But it does seem like something when we see all the clips and the very few amount of clips of the two of them together that if they had any fucking time together, any screen time together, any camera time together, they could have had the conversation that we ended up seeing in this episode. And I do think, honestly, I do think it would probably.

circle back and then once again it would be joe ellen's problem but because it's the finale and we do this we're just going to pick it back up at the reunion like this was this was like a soft handling this was a soft resolution like hey we're going to be around each other brian's actually on his way right now i don't want to do this i think i kind of got a clearer picture on what's going on it's less so from my perspective it's less so rula just being like completely turning a blind eye and just acting like nothing's going on and more that she knows there's shit going on she just doesn't want to talk about it on the show, which, you know, pick your poison there. I don't know which is evil, which is the lesser of two evils, but there is something going

on there. And I feel like I've kind of swayed to the other side. But with Joe Ellen, I mean, obviously we talk about Liz and Joe Ellen right away. And I'm glad that we got that one out of the way. And I'm glad that I feel like it kind of set the tone for this episode where it's more like, yeah, we're not all in the best place. Yeah, we've kind of got on each other's nerves, but we can at least have those conversations, which are a very important component of these shows.

and I don't care if it's the finale or not. I just want to see them all have these conversations because enough has become enough. We saw Rosie and Kelsey sort of squashed at Rula as the week prior. Now we have everybody else. We just need to get back to that good place so we can have a little bit of fun before the end of the season. So I'm just happy to see that.

And it seems like everybody was on the same page with all of those things. And Joelle, and again, I mean, yes, she's been talking about Rula and Brian the whole season. It hasn't been a lot of conflict resolution, but she has maintained. I'm not mad at Rula. She can even go down the other road where she can start talking about how pissed off she is that Rula is turning a blind eye, acting like Brian's a saint, and then coming back and spreading misinformation on Joel Allen. But she didn't really go down that road.

And I'm really happy she didn't because it shows who she is. She just kind of stayed steadfast in the rule that asked me for evidence. And I even forgot about that. And we had talked about that before. We went on a whole long tangent about it because we have to fill in those gaps without Rola participating. So when we get back to this, I'm like, yeah, all right, good for you. you've been consistent the whole season. Exactly.

And that's where, you know, I take issue. I agree. I don't want Joe Ellen to take a route of like, now I'm wronged. I'm going to be the victim in this whole thing. That's how we get stuck. Exactly. But I do think she has, she's got legs to stand on. If she wanted to flip it, go not for nothing.

Because I wrote this in my notes at some point when Rula was talking because she's checking in in this scene and she's talking to like the whole group said. sorry I haven't been around. I'm like not feeling well. You know, work's been crazy. I'm having my job busted about my marriage. I'm on my deathbed.

I'm like, dude, that's where she irritates me. That's where like I am critical because it's like, you didn't show us your real life. You skated around things and you, you claimed you were dying. And then we get a clip of you in bed and you're like,

oh, like that. Full glam in bed. You're just kind of like scoff. It's like, all right, dude. But the whole thing that that bothers me with the

rule of situation is like, I think Kelsey asks her. Have you talked to Joe Ellen? She's like, not since Polo, it's like, well, there's our issue. You just go have this conversation. And we could have done this about two weeks ago. We wouldn't be in this position that we're in now. But that's when I wrote in my notes. You know, Joe Ellen actually has a lot more to say if she wanted to because she brought

you proof, right? And this whole thing with Brian started because there was proof out there. People were seeing things. people we're talking. You've gone to multiple confessionals, Rula, and just thrown stones, hoping something with Lance saying that, well, Jo Ellen's got some skeletons in her closet, but you haven't given us any info on it. So what you're doing is actually worse. I know it's just in response to her digging. And we've agreed, like, we don't know why she's so invested in trying to figure it out. I would imagine, like you said, a couple weeks ago, I'm assuming it's

like, all right, there's a group chat. You know, the ladies are in their gossiping a little bit. They're chit chatting like, ooh, you hear about this. And it kind of, of snowballed, and that's probably why she's invested. But then you started calling her a liar. And I think someone else points out later, this has shifted from Joellen trying to prove to you to support you that your husband's cheating. Now it's turned into, Joellen doesn't want to be called a liar because you keep calling her a liar.

And now you're saying she's cheating on her husband with no evidence. I'm just, I'm really happy that Joe Ellen and Jo Ellen's camp, if you will, they were able to simplify it. Like, just make it simple. You're calling her a liar. That's it. We don't have to go into anything else. And let's not forget when this started, before cameras even picked up,

Brian was calling Joe Ellen's work and trying to get her fired. So it's not like there was no fire back on the other side. It's not like Brian and Rula were living their lives and there were rumors about Brian with a mistress. And Joellen just went full force and found all the rumors and videos and stuff and started spreading it to everybody else. There was also return fire. So let's not act like you guys haven't done anything on your side. And then you plant this fucking neighbor while you're walking on the beach. with Alicia.

Like, hey, tell her about Joe Ellen. Like, here's my dirt. I don't need actual evidence on what Joe Ellen's doing. Let me just show you somebody that no one's ever seen before. And we're just going to introduce her at this point in episode eight and just try to sway the audience to thinking, Joe Ellen's actually a bad person. We're not going to think that. That's not how this works.

So I don't understand any of that. But again, I'm just very happy that we were able to simplify it just to, hey, you asked me, we have clips of you talking about it. Like, yes, Joellen did initiate the conversation and saying, I feel really bad for you right now. A lot of people are talking about it. And if I have evidence, do you want it? And you said, yes, that's all Joellen did.

So yes, you can say that she initiated it, but whatever. I mean, that's fine. We don't really know how deep their friendship goes prior to filming because it does seem like, even though we never get confirmation, but it seems like Joellen and Rula were friends for a while. And there was a friendship there. To some degree, yeah. Yeah.

I'm a little upset that we didn't really get into that too much. And maybe we will at a reunion. But to act like you've done nothing wrong. and that you're just turning a blind eye, and now you're talking about Joella and being a liar is kind of crazy to me. So it doesn't make any sense. But again, once we start doing this and we're getting these building blocks in place finally

because everybody's all together and people are talking about it, we can at least set up the stage for just fuck it, just go talk, please, just the two of you. Don't let Brian anywhere near there. Don't let Gary anywhere near you, even though Gary's not doing anything and he's not the aggressor really at all. He's just standing up for his wife. Just the two of you go sit down and talk.

And we already know how that's going to end up. because we've seen Rula in these situations before. And I think the other part that's interesting is as all this is going on, and as Rula is trying to ignore what's going on, I'm glad that the group is finally coming around because it felt like for a lot of the season, they were irritated with Joellen about the situation too. I was like, well, it's just kind of weird that you guys are putting emphasis on her with this whole thing when you guys keep seeing the proof.

Even after the video was shown, There was still a little stank on Joe Ellen's name. It wasn't really until this episode. I think it's because, and this points to, again, Rula needed to be part of this and being on camera, being at these events. Because now that they're all around and Rula's trying to defend herself, all of the ladies are saying the same thing. Like, Jesus, this is just embarrassing.

Like, you're just completely turning a blind eye. It's not even blissful ignorance. You're willingly not addressing what's going on. And I think it somehow absolves Joe Ellen of any guilt. because they kind of see it all together. And they're like, all right, you're calling her a liar. You're doubling down. Brian's doubling down, calling her work.

You asked for proof. So I'm glad that we got that out of this too, where it finally seems like Joe Ellen has support in this. Because up until this point, part of me thinks that the group didn't want to acknowledge because they didn't want to get involved, like the Alicia tactic. You know what I mean? So I'm glad that we reached a point where I feel like Joe Ellen's finally absolved of sin, even though she didn't do anything wrong.

But that was always an interesting. fast of this thing that while rule is blaming joe ellen i felt like some people in the group were also blaming joelan at least a little bit yeah and it may have just been you know i remember early on in the season rosy had some issues with joe ellen so i think there was a bit of a mean girl stigma going on for at least a portion of the season where other people didn't want to get involved then other people were involved in their own shit so while we're talking about this the whole season it does just kind of seem like joe ellen's bringing it up out of nowhere but i think you're right i think when they finally get to sit down and things are resolved elsewhere, it's like, okay,

let's really think about this for a second. Okay, never mind. Joe Ellen hasn't really done anything wrong. Exactly. So that was another, another silver lining in this whole thing. But Billy, we got a bad read on them early, you know, because we were, we were getting to know everybody. Billy's a nice guy because Billy goes up to Gary or Jerry, whatever Joe Allen's husband, Gary,

Gary is Joe Ellen, Jerry is Joe Ellen, yep. And Jerry's Liz. Okay. Yeah. Cool. So he goes up to, fuck, Gary.

Damn it. He goes up to Gary. And he's like, hey, man, I want to talk to you. I know I get a lot of shit for not marrying a leash.

I feel like I let her down, you know, because I'm not romantic. I like this because he heard that the proposal was that romantic. And then he played it back in his head. And he's, you know,

the, your 50 years old line comes up. And he's like, you know what? I don't like that. I'm going to recognize. this thing. I'm going to do a reproposal, but I like that he runs it by Gary first. I'm like, you really care. You really want to check and see like, hey, is this a good idea?

So Billy started off rough and he has climbed his way up. I really like Billy. I love them together, too. Yeah, I really love them together. And that's the one thing that we kind of, we keep an eye on because there are a lot of parallels going to Jersey. So when we see the husbands interact, we kind of get an ick immediately. But like you said, we had the wrong read on Billy. And I think that as we've learned who Alicia is and the things that she does along the way, it makes a lot more sense for what's going on. So, yes, I actually really enjoyed this scene. And Gary, I feel like in terms of husbands on this show has been a really good force. He's been like kind of that calming factor, whether it's with Joe Ellen, whether it's with, you know, Rula and Brian sitting down. It's almost like he's the voice of reason in a lot of situations.

So seeing the husbands interact like this, I think if nothing else, if you don't like watching House husbands interact on a screen by themselves with no other housewives around, Just take away that these people are close. That's what I want. And that's the one thing that we tend to point to in shows like OC and Beverly Hills. We're like, you guys don't hang out. You don't know anything about each other's lives. Your friends are just kind of like circumstantial friends or your husbands are circumstantial friends. That's about it.

I like seeing these because it shows how close they are. But not only that, how close the families are. So I expect when they have parties in the future, they all get along and they're all going to have a good time. It's just that jersey line is always hovering. Exactly. it's a bad taste in our mouth from, you know, watching Joe Gorga and that crew smack each other with dildos on a boat for 15 minutes of an episode. Like we don't need to never. That was kind of, I feel like the breaking point of the house husbands was that day on the boat because we got legit, I think 15 minutes of only husbands that episode.

And since then, we've been jaded. Rhode Island has a chance to bring that back, though, if they continue to do it this way. When we see the husbands, we want this kind of stuff. I don't want to see them getting involved in drama. It's housewives, not house husbands. So this was a nice scene. But there's a little juxtaposed action. And we're talking Rula again.

So Rula's over here with the ladies. Meanwhile, you got Rosie Joe and Alicia, they're talking over here about the whole situation. Again, Rula's taking the stance of, well, everybody was in the castle. And there's this video, she's showing everybody. It's like, objectively. speaking, ruler.

If you're in this same situation, okay, and you get a video of somebody you know, husbands cheating on her, whatever, what do you do with it? You just sit on it? Like, no shot. You're going to show people. Be like, hey, look at this. This is crazy. Especially if you're on a show together.

So that's another funny thing where Joellen keeps catching strays for this whole thing. It's like, but what would you do? Because she's claiming this situation is that she would never do this, is time and place, whatever. But do you, come on come on you do the same shit you would absolutely do the same shit and when you add in the factor of the show they're going on a trip just the girls it's not the whole families it's not the

husbands or anything it's not like joe owen's running around we're talking about it so she planned on bringing it to you directly that's what i got from it and you weren't there that that's the big problem that's honestly the biggest problem of the whole season for for rula if she were there you could have gotten ahead of it like i know she wanted to get ahead of it and then she kind of at one point where she just turned the blind eye and she didn't want to talk about it at all. But she tried a little bit her and Brian to get ahead of it early. It didn't work out. You had to sit down with Jo Ellen and her husband.

That didn't go well. Then you sit out half the season while we're continuing to talk about it. So yes, if you were in that situation and there were other women involved that knew what was going on, we just talked about it at the polo grounds a couple of days ago. Of course, if there's a video, it's going to get circulated. And it wasn't circulated. It's not like it was sent to everybody else. It was sent to Joellen.

And it probably was, yeah. I still look at that group. But yeah, she showed everybody else there, everybody that already knew what was going on. This was big information. This was big news. And the conversation, and I hope that when rule is watching it back, she realizes that it's not like malicious. We've seen so much worse. We've seen somebody go complete scorched earth.

I'm going to send this to whoever. I'm going to bring it to their attention. I'm going to give it to Bravo's producers. We never even saw the video. So here we are sitting on this evidence. She just showed the other women just to let them know what was going on. And then they had a very good discussion about who, if anybody, should be the person to deliver that information. And then we watched, obviously, Alicia start to spiral over the next couple of days because she gets really anxious about it.

But that's really it. Like, when you watch it back, it's not Joellen snickering and running around and screaming and laughing or anything. It's her just showing everybody else who already knew what was going on. Yeah. And you see the shift in the group again because with Rula saying, you know, Joelan needs to let it be and not judge me. again, she really isn't judging you. This is more about Brian. And Kelsey's the one to say to her, like, this has shifted from him cheating to you calling

her a liar. So she's now brought two rulers attention. The rule is like, well, as friends, you can relay the message. And I was like, thank God Liz steps in. She's like, nah, nah, not going to do that. You can relay it how you want. You can go talk to her. Go figure this out.

And again, this was kind of the tide shift of like, now Joella needs to butt out versus all right, John's getting dragged. You need to go talk to her and squash this whole thing. And like you said, the funniest part, if she'd been present for episodes past and wanted to play this card of like, I'm not addressing it, if she had made that known to the group episode three, episode four, we wouldn't be doing this right now. We would probably bring it up again eventually.

But you could have actually squashed it and said, this is my marriage, my life, but out. And I think that they probably would have much earlier. And honestly, and let's just do a little mental exercise here. If that happens and you were successful in squashing some of it, or at least getting back to a good place and saying, I'll handle it. If Joellen continues to perpetrate it and pulling up videos from other people and talking about it more,

then you have normal beef where you actually might have people on your side. I do think the majority of us would be looking at Brian. Like, all right, he's a scumbag. You need to figure this shit out. But we might be looking at Joellen a little bit differently saying, like, all right, you guys already had your conversation. She told you to butt out. she said she would handle it and here you are continuing.

So it would have been a little bit different. And honestly, the way that plays out for me, Joellen probably does continue to do it. And she continues to talk about it. And then you actually do have a leg to stand on. You can actually go back at her and say, look, I told you to butt out. Here you are doing the same shit.

So now we've got beef. And it would have made more sense. Exactly. But there's a lot more of that. Just kind of back and forth, you know, Rula and Brian talk. And obviously Brian's like, oh, you're just so strong.

Our kids are so strong. Everything's so strong. Everything's so strong. You're strong. and you have Joellen and Gary Jerry saying everyone's called me a liar I need to nip this in the bud you want a proof I got proof I want to clear my name whatever but we get to a very nice seat with Alicia and Billy why I love this scene so much is because it was so genuine and real

you can tell you know this is uncomfortable for him but he's doing something nice for Alicia because he knows that she deserves it Alicia you can tell is one of this kind of romantic gesture for a very long time. It's awkward. It's funny. It's sweet. It was lovely. It was just a nice, genuine real scene. It's nice to see Alicia, get what she wants, have that moment with Billy. It's nice to see him step up and respond to maybe I'm not showing up enough. And then it came together in this nice moment. You have people watching from the rooms, like cheering, having a glass of champagne. It was overall just like a lovely little check-in that I thoroughly enjoyed. Yeah. No, I really enjoyed it too. I,

I think that again, this is a big thing for watching everybody else. Just be genuinely happy for Alicia. Yeah. No one had any weird side comments outside of Liz being annoyed with Alicia here and there. Everybody loves Alicia. So watching this unfold, you might have the takeaway of always doing it for the cameras. I think that goes into the gesture. I think it really does.

I think we watched it. And if you watch back the whole season, there were baby steps that were taken along the way. And Alicia said when she was getting in when she was being proposed to, she was already eight months pregnant. She had bronchitis. She didn't feel great. Billy kept saying, hey, come see this. She needed a funchicle.

So I didn't. Fudge Ickel. Yeah, yeah, I needed a little. Needed a fudgeicle. But yeah, I think it actually came full circle. I mean, I think we had enough discussion about it. And yes, it was kind of inconsequential along the way. But when we finally got here, it made a ton of sense to me.

And I'd just like to see everybody just be very happy for Alicia. And I think that honestly, the way that it was so, awkward for both of them should go to show people like, no, this was genuine. Billy did realize there was some fault in his ways. And I do think that that's a real aspect. I mean, obviously, yeah, they've been engaged for nine years, but they've been raising a daughter. They've been pouring all their focus into her, maybe not each other, maybe not their relationship and their potential marriage. It's got on the back burner. So this is just a nice little commitment. And I like to see it. That's all get right moment. You know, let's get back on track. You and me start fresh. So it was

nice and again it points to the group as a whole right you can tell how much they care about each other and that's what makes her a great show that's part of the charm of rhode island but we're at the bar afterwards you know billy's getting props rosy's like you get a new ring i was like hey oh oh oh they're going to go me the doghouse again he just got out let's just be happy that they had that moment no he actually yanked her ring off of her and he couldn't get that was so funny yeah give me that thing and the best is like i'm going to get out stand up she's like no just getting her he's like oh my god like the back and forth all No, did you see him throw the towel down so he could get his, he put his knee down.

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If you've got a curious brain, come try one episode of something you should know on the podcast app you're listening to right now. Well, we finally get this much needed conversation between Rula and Joellen. And she's planning on showing her the video. Now, she just flat out says, nah, I'm good. I don't want to see it. The part of it all that really grinds my gear is how quick she is to just be like, it's so easy to fake. It's like it's not.

You know, what's your claiming is easy to fake is not the timestamp on the video. It's like literally in the video. and it's the date. And that's what's sad to me because she just believes Brian. Brian's telling her how easy it is to Photoshop and use AI. And she's like, oh, he's probably right with actual no real proof behind the whole thing. Now, there's a level to this, of course, where it's like, that's her life. If this is the decision she wants to make, Joe Ellen just butt out, accept it, move on,

acknowledge the part where you keep calling her a liar, stop doing that. But then she can move on from this whole thing. We can chalk it up to that. If you want to live in this, this brutal, ignorant world you're in, that's your prerogative, Gary. But at the same time, you don't want to see it. You're going to make all these claims about Joellen. I think out of respect from Joellen, you kind of need to watch the video to exonerate her. I think there's a way that you can do both.

You don't have to see the video, but you can also exonerate Joellen. And you can say, which she's not willing to say. And I think that that was my big takeaway from this. episode again we have a scant amount of a video footage of the two of them together brian and rula do not seem good it seems like brian's doing that that atypical i'm such a great husband i'm such a nice guy we saw it with the kids early in the season we're like dude you're a scumbag we know you're a scumbag but i really keyed in on what rula was doing and how she was acting around them she doesn't want any part of this guy she feels embarrassed to be around them i feel bad for her obviously

but if you're on a show like this, there is certain things that you have to do, and this is one of them. And I think that she could have gone about it in a way of, look, I understand what's on the video. I understand your concern for me. I just don't think I'm in a place right now to see that video. And I think that would exonerate Jo Ellen. And I think it would also just kind of draw a line of the sands. Like, look, just because I know this shit's going on and we're trying to work through it off camera, obviously. I don't need to actually see the physical evidence.

I think it would ruin me. And it's like, okay, I think everybody would understand that. I think every woman in a marriage where their husband's cheating on them would be like, yeah, no, I totally understand that. But at least you're acknowledging that I'm trying. And at least you acknowledge that at the polo grounds, I did say if I get evidence, do you want to see it? And you said yes. So that's where we are. That's where the weird like standstill is.

And it doesn't make any sense to me. So as long as you can get out of that conversation, being in a better place with Joel. And I think that really based on how they're acting around each other and the dinner at the very end, ruling wants no parts of Brian. I agree. She's trying to navigate this while being on camera, while everybody else is talking about it. I think it's a very awkward place to be in. It just sucks because obviously we want to see it transpire a lot differently, but we're not getting that because I don't think Rulin knows how to navigate this.

And I think she's just trying to keep as much off screen as possible so that nothing comes back to bite her in the ass. And it's not a good look, obviously, but I don't really know what else you can do with it. Nah, it's just embarrassing, you know, especially when you have Brian telling Gary, like, Oh yeah, that video is real. Like 100% Yeah, you got me. But, you know, we're moving on from this whole thing. It's like, oh, you can't sit there and say you have been calling Joelle and the liar.

I thought Gary handled himself well. I can't say I would have had the same response. I think we're reaching a point amongst the entire cast where it's like this just needs to be put to bed one way or another. So fine. If that's the case and you acknowledge that it's real, even though you just said it wasn't. And rule is telling Joel and it's not real upstairs. right now. You're telling me it's real.

Whatever. Stop calling my wife a liar. Leave us out of it and go about your life. He literally says that to him. He literally says that to him. He's like, you do what you're going to do, you fucking dirtbag. But leave my wife out of it. Good luck.

Good luck with all of that is what he says at the end. The Gary conversation is so funny because all his intention was is, hey, this thing has become so big. And somehow everybody's just looking at Joellen and everybody's looking at Joellen and calling her a liar. can we just fucking move on? Can we just stop doing that? That was his whole intention.

Instead, what he gets out of it is Brian confirming that the video is real. Like, I don't even think Gary expected that. It just kind of turned into that sort of conversation. But Brian was clearly willing to just spill the beans and just say whatever and just get through it and then walk away and very cowardly walk up the steps past Joe Ellen and be like, hey, how are you? Hi. Hi.

And then he knocks on his wife's door. It was just very bizarre. The knocking on the door, I think, was a big telltale sign for me. So I'm like, oh, you guys aren't cool at all. Like, you're her husband. You should just be able to, like, at least crack the door up and it'd be like, hey, are you decent? And then open the door. You've knocked on your wife's door.

That's bizarre. No, and his face is always beat red every time he's near. Like, it just seems unnatural. I don't know. I don't care for it. Don't care for it at all. But let's get to dinner. And we got a little clamshell confessional where there's a question written on a clam shell.

and you know, you can either give it to somebody else or you can answer the question yourself. Rula immediately, I hate these things. I bet you do. I bet you fucking do. I would in your position too.

Yes, I wouldn't want to answer shit if I was married to Brian. So I, that's, that's tough. That's tough. It's a tough spot to be in, but it's also of your own doing

because you want to dress anything, but whatever. The first question. What's something you haven't told the group, but should? Brian coughing, I do believe actually happened. in the moment.

I think there was more moments where things were being alluded to and Brian coughed and he cleared his throat. This guy is guilty as shit. I think every single one of these questions could have just gone to Brian and that would have been the funniest thing to do. They absolutely could have. The next one's what's something you haven't told the group but should? This led me to believe that every question, as you just said, was written with the intention

of let's make sure they're all damning enough. So if Brian gets one or Rula gets one, they can all be applied to Brian. Who writes these questions, by the way? Like, that's what I want to know. I think production. Yeah. They might give out like notepads early in the day and be like, hey, if you have questions, write them down.

Then they probably fill in some themselves. It's just such a strange situation at the end of the season because it's a trip. And we get one episode of it. And the first like 10 minutes of the episode, they're not even actually there. So I think it's very bizarre because there's no one like particularly hosting the trip, but there is, because I think it's Liz and Kelsey. Kelsey's the number one host, I believe. Yeah, so it's very bizarre, but I would have liked to hear a little bit more about, you know,

what was going on here, maybe who was writing those questions. But I think you're right. I think it's just production for the most part. And that makes the most sense. Let's make them 100% a little subjective so that if Brian gets it, we can really just zoom in on his face while he's answering. Yep, no matter what question he gets, it's going to be damning. And rule it goes, and this is a microcosm for her entire season.

I'm passing this along. No, you're not. You fucking read that clamshell. And people at the tail are like, no, no, no, you got to read it. To be fair. Yeah, she did say you have to read it. But they did say, look, you don't have to answer. You can pass it off.

And also, you can answer for somebody else. You don't have to answer for your spouse. That's the one thing. And I think that just goes to show you where everybody is right now. It's like, all right, we're not going to get anything out of Rola. We kind of feel bad forcing her to do this. It seems like her and Joelle and had a conversation. Maybe we just leave it at that, guys.

Right. Yeah. We're not going to circle back. We're not going to. Oh, so Brian's going to give a speech. Okay. All right.

Okay. Great. Yeah. I don't, this guy is fucking delusional to a level that we really haven't seen a house husband, at least not in a very long time. Because he seems to be under the guys that, oh,

I can, I can spin my wife's brain into a pretzel and have her be okay with this. I can do the same to the whole group. And because the group's trying to keep the peace out of respect for Rula, which I do respect that out of this group. Because yes, it's very embarrassing what rule is doing. Yes, she looks like an idiot. But they're not piling it on.

Once the liar thing was absolved and now that Joellen no longer has a bone to pick, she's like, I don't want to kick somebody while they're down. And she's so down that they're all just trying to kind of rally behind her, which I actually did appreciate. Yeah. But Brian giving a speech is just ludicrous. I just want to look towards the future. I'm not proud of the things I did, but I'm proud of this woman and how she handles things.

And thank you guys. You made us the most popular couple. Who the fuck is this guy? Who, bro? What the hell's wrong with you? You're not the most popular couple. Everybody hates you, Brian. I hate you.

I've never met you and I fucking hate your face. But also it shows me that you know exactly what's going on and you know that this entire season that they've been filming. They've just been talking about you guys. Even though you weren't there. So instead of this whole weird blind eye act and we're just moving on that you've been trying to spin us into thinking that you've been doing the whole season. You've actually been having conversations about the fact that everybody's talking about you.

So, okay, so now we know what's going on. But this, this again, this could not have gone worse because while he's going through all of it and he's like trying to thank his wife in a weird way, he's like, you know, I just, I respect you so much and I'm so proud of you for how you were able to like not let your ego get in the way. I'm like, what the fuck is this guy going on about? And thankfully, again, Joelle. and Rula are in a good enough place

and you've got Rosie and Joelle and Rosie speaks up and she's like we can't this is not on Rula we're not looking at Rula and doing all we're looking at this guy next to me who is she basically said he's a piece of shit this piece of shit next to me

this is who we're talking about and this is where we need the answers to come Joe L is not Rula's a company guy Brian like almost takes it as like well thanks thanks for that introduction let me go on and talk about how good how good of a wife I have over here

who's just been so strong through all of this. It's like what do you think this is, buddy? I don't know. It's like she went through a traumatic event that he was there to support her through. It's like, no, no, you put her through the traumatic event, sir. And now you're trying to give her props for handling your indiscretion. I'm really glad that Rosie spoke up.

She's had a couple moments this season where she stepped up and had a big moment in front of the group like that. So I do appreciate that she points out the fact that Joe Ellen's not the problem. It's Brian that's it. He's the problem. Rula starts crying, which is really sad.

Alicia being Alicia is like, Joe, tell her you fuck up too. It's like, what? Hey, I know. Hey,

well, Billy's trying to get her to stop. Like, what are you doing? Don't get involved in this. What do you mean? I love both of them. I'm trying to help both that.

It's like, wait, Joellen's not involved right now. This is okay. We're talking about these two. That's what Gary points out. I was like, why every time she's brought back in?

I'm like, that's actually a good point to a certain extent. she's now synonymous with Rula's husband cheating. It's like, well, let's ask Jovallel about it. What did Joelle do to get involved this time? It's like, no, no. And that's the funniest part. Alicia's like, Joe, Joe, tell her.

And she's like, we're good. We talked in private. We're fine. I know, but tell us. But still, you should tell her, right? Shut up, Billy. I'm on a roll. It's so fucking good.

But we start to get the, the wind down. You know, Kelsey's like the whole reason I wanted to do this trip so we could all kind of get on the same page. And we do, we have loose resolution, which is kind of where want to be going into the reunion because they're all going to watch this stuff back. They're all going to get re-angry about things. We're going to rehash certain issues at the reunion. But we're at a good enough point where I'm not nervous.

We're going to get bogged down by anything, especially it's a two-parter, which I'm thrilled about. So we can just get to the meat and potatoes of it all because I would imagine episode two will probably be Rula and Brian centric and everything happened. I can't believe Brian's there. Like this guy. House husbands? This fucking guy.

I just like, what are you doing? I think he loves the attention, honestly. I think he's a reality star. We tried to figure that out early on because we even said after that first conversation with Gary and Joellen sitting down like, oh, we're never going to see him again. He handled that poorly. He came back with thunder. He came back with more.

He did worse. He went on this trip. He's going to be at the reunion. Like, it's almost, I'm going to get to a point where I'm like, I mean, you're facing the music, I think. But why? you facing the music. What do you want from this? Hey, we joked early on. Like, oh, maybe he'll just find another mistress. Like, oh, I was on Bravo. You want to go check it out?

Like, I'm kind of cool. I'm a podiatrist. Like, maybe that's what it is. I don't know what the fuck it is. It's some weird delusion. But I can't wait to see what he does at the reunion. Yeah, I microdose HGH. What's up? I'm Brian. That was his excuse, by the way. I know. I know. Maybe I took too many hormones. Fuck off. What? Oh, God. He's so like unregulated in his chemistry because he's just taking all the weird drugs that he offers. That it's just not working out for him. And he's maybe that maybe that's another piece of this arc we're going to get at the end of season two.

They're going to separate, but it's a contingency because he's actually going to rehab because of all the weird drugs that he's just pumped into his body. Like, what the fuck? I'm addicted to trying the drugs that I sell. Yeah, I microdose gLP ones with a little bit of HGH sprinkled in. Apparently it's not great for your mental health. Who knew? That's why I cheated on my wife because I was taking all these wacky drugs. It's not my fault.

Blame the drugs. I don't know. It's fucking crazy. But obviously it ends with the news of the trackers being found in Rula's car. We heard about this pretty early on in the season. So we knew it was coming. Again, and I think that's why I had the big speech early in this episode was, I think all of us were waiting for this episode.

some point in the season where it's like, ah, that's why rule is full time. We never got that. I still don't believe she actually is full time. But even in this, I felt bad because at this juncture, you know, she's still defending Brian. It's like, we have so much shit against this guy.

And I feel bad. And it's just genuinely embarrassing that you're still doing this. She's like, you know, it got sensationalized. Like, I went to BMW. I was like, I think I'm being tracked because of some of the things he was saying. And they're like, oh, you got to go right to the police. I'm like, how are you downplaying this so much? Like, this is pretty fucking nuts,

especially she's acknowledging, you know, I have a feeling he was doing it to make sure I wasn't driving by her house. It's like, oh, so you're acknowledging the mistress is still in play. Yeah. You're acknowledging that Brian was keeping tabs on you in case you were trying to contact the mistress, but you're not going to acknowledge the mistress. Huh? Yeah. Yeah, it is very, very confusing. I thought we were going to get more out of this. Now, we, I think that kind of went away, though, because we heard that they're still together and working through things. So, watch what happens live. Or she was. Yeah. He was sitting in the front row. So, like, I didn't expect to get like groundbreaking news from this. Obviously, you kind of want to see how everybody feels about

it flashing over to Liz's where you have Joelle and like, I brought pie. Like, let's get after it. And you got Liz making popcorn, which is very funny because Liz didn't really get involved in any of this the entire season and she seems very happy too so i i don't really know i don't really understand how the full time versus non full time really works i wonder if it was just we've been talking about it everybody's talking about it and we want to try to get the full story at the reunion so if we're going to do that we can do this there was also a rumor that there was somebody else supposed to be in the show that dropped out so i have no fucking clue where any of this is coming from i don't really care at the end of the day i think that it's more just for us

us anyway that we were waiting for that big moment. And that moment went away weeks ago for me. I mean, I gave them basically leading into the rule of party that she had in the last episode. I was already out by that point. I'm like, we're not going to get this. Even if we get a moment, I'm not going to care at this point. So I think it really is just the subject matter.

It's like we can't actually have a whole season circling around one event with one person who is on the show without making that person full time and having them out at the reunion the whole time. Yeah, maybe. Also, it's the first season. So I think they're just kind of throwing shit at the wall. So who the hell knows? I'm not going to get stuck on it for too long.

But I did think we were going to get a little bit more. I thought that we were going to get more reactions from everybody else. We were going to get more input from everybody else, more to the story. And it was just kind of more of the same where it's just very inconsistent from Rula, where you can kind of see. And this is where I do feel bad for her. She doesn't really know which way she wants to go. Like she can blow the lid off of this thing and talk about it very candidly if she

wants to. And then all of a sudden it's like, all right, I just did that. What am I going to do with my husband? What am I going to do with my marriage moving forward? We all view this as the damage is done. We already know everything. So you should leave him or else we're going to start looking at you like, all right, we don't really feel bad for you anymore. You're doing this to yourself. So I think that's just kind of the weird situation that she's in and she doesn't know which way to go. And I don't know if she's ever going to know which way to go. She might just be in limbo forever. And that's going to be really tough to endure in like a season or two. That's kind of a. That's kind of my point moving forward with Rula.

It's like, okay, you made it through season one. Do I think you deserve to come back? I really truly don't, especially because of how much everybody else did. But okay, fine, you're back. Let's play devil's advocate. I cannot watch another season of you defending this guy. That's like, that takes center stage for the entire season. It was fine this season because everybody else did so good.

If we do this again, and now it's because of the trackers and stuff, It's like, I don't really care. It's kind of, I think we talked about it halfway through this season where we said, like the payoff's not going to be good enough regardless. Yeah. So that kind of is what happened, but. Yeah, I weirdly think I had something about her coming back next season. I think you bring everybody back next season.

I mean, we've gone through it while we were going through like the storylines with everybody. Again, it was, you know, Ashley with Audrey's. And then they show like her baby. I'm like, oh, poor kids got to have his fucking birthday party at Audrey's. That's what we're doing. We just have to keep going back to Audrey's. I think that there's enough there. It really is, it's contingent on whether or not Rula wants to keep doing this and playing

this fucking game. And again, if she has the same performance next year as she did this year, there's no reason to have her back. Obviously, I think she's going to be back. But I do have a lot of faith in the rest of the group where they won't get held down by that. And they'll move on. If there's no new information.

and Rula's just turning a blind eye the whole season. And we try to do it again next season. I don't think that Joellen, Rosie, Kelsey, Liz, Alicia, none of them are going to just buy into it. I agree with that. So we'll see how that part plays out. I have no idea. But let's get to some questions.

My phone's dead and I can't find my charger. So it's all you, Belle. Okay. From Sarah Hills. Do you think we will see Alicia and Billy's wedding on the show? I actually do. I think that's going to be the big thing because we did learn at the end of this that they are actively planning a wedding.

So I do think that's going to be like a big thing at the end of next season, I would imagine. I agree. Hopefully. I mean, that would be a fun finale, but I can see it being earlier in the season to maybe kick it off with that. I don't know.

It depends when they start filming. From Jennifer M2M, as much as I love Alicia, I get annoyed when she doesn't know how to read a room. See, I love it when she doesn't know how to read a room. I think that's, but I understand.

I think that other people are going to have different preferences where they're going get annoyed by that and I can see why you would get annoyed by that me personally I love it yeah if I was there like if this is one of my friends yeah I'd be irritated big dude stop for the show I love it every time she does it makes me laugh uh from just call me brie anyone else underwhelmed by the finale top tier season but the finale was me I yeah I think I might be in that camp I was it was it seemed a bit rushed uh 12 episodes for a housewife season usually does feel rushed. We haven't had that in a little while, probably since season one, Salt Lake. I think that was only 12 or 13 episodes. So I thought it was a little rushed. I did appreciate the

resolution we got, but in terms of a finale, yes, picking up cameras adds a little bit to it, but I was a tiny bit underwhelmed. I agree. Yep. Could have hit harder. From Amy Labadea. Just saying, some Jeep people are pretty cool. Hey, I like that response. I like that. You didn't get upset. And I was calling it out. And I bet you are cool. Yeah, exactly. From Sarah Guy, 2021, seeing as all the women have made up, who do you think will have

the biggest beef at the reunion? Oh, Kelsey and Rose are going to go at it again. I would imagine Joe Ellen and Rule are going to have at it again. Liz and Joe Ellen are going to get into it. I think that every single thing that was resolved, we will see it spark back up. I don't think that all of them will go to the extent. that we saw it during the season. Like we'll probably get resolution with most of it.

Mm-hmm. But I would imagine we're going to rehash quite a few things amongst this group. I'm going to do two more here. One is just to throw our guy a bone. And then the other one's a final finale power rankings. From Brian Stomeman 83, do y'all like Rula's new nose? Yes, I do like her new nose. Yes, I love her new nose.

I think it looks great, Brian. Yep. I think whatever makes her happy she should do. Yeah, exactly. And then from Andre Drew one finale power rankings. You go ahead. I'm going to go. Don't do it for the bottom up.

Don't do it for the bottom up. You mean like five, four, three, two, one. I'm going one, two, three, four, five. Okay. But stop doing that. I don't know what that is. I'm a, I'm a rank the lowest to highest.

So then you say the best for last. Yeah. Yeah, I know. But I feel like you get confused and then I really get confused. I'm going to go, Joella, number one. Don't tell me how to power rank, pal. But I will do Joella number one. Alicia, two, and they're very interchangeable.

I think they just bring different things to the show. Three is Rosie because of her big moments and calling people out. Four, Kelsey, five, Liz, six, ruler. Do you have Ashley in there? Oh, Ashley is probably, I would go Liz Ashley Rula. Okay. There you go.

All right. Yeah. I'm going to go Alicia, Joellen, Rosie, Liz, Kelsey, Ashley Rula. Yeah. Either one's fair. Yeah. And I think that's the cool part. She's a vibes coordinator.

She is. I think she's a big part of the show. I don't want to get rid of her by any means. But I do think that the top three, top four spots are probably very interchangeable. because a lot of people brought a lot of different things. That's why this cast works so well together. They all knew their role, whether they meant to or not. So I'm stoked for season two.

I just again, hope that if rule is involved, it's in a different capacity than what we saw this season. And I'm very curious how they handle themselves at the reunion. First year reunions are rough. So it's going to be fun to watch. Especially with the husbands there. That's what I'm looking forward to. But I think the reunion is going to be great. Yeah, I do too.

I can't wait to see Brian get. beat right again and stumbled through his words and say something stupid. Yeah. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. No, that's our show. Rob Bros. are out of here.

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