Bros & Shows - Cheating? Not on the Sea Wall!

Episode Date: April 14, 2026

What's up bros?? We're back with our favorite new franchise in Rhode Island spending quality time at the sea wall with your best friend and husband. This was a very couple-centric episode and well, let's just say we have a lot of questions. We don't have questions because we saw questionable things; we have questions because these women keep telling us things we didn't even think of! Let's hope this season keeps moving like it is because we're loving it Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We just got done recording our Beverly Hills episode, which means there is no better show to talk about afterwards to pick up our spirits than the real housewives of Rhode Island. Oh, yeah. And we got husband drama. Boy, oh, boy, do I feel like I'm back in Jersey. Every episode, it just takes me back. And I just don't understand what makes any sense. I think we're living in a weird simulation, a weird Jersey simulation, but I can't get enough of it. It's a jersey thing.

As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh, man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros.

Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only shooter Dino Gooder what's up dude this is so exciting

to talk about week in and week out I'm so happy I was so nervous about this show I think I talked about at the first episode I could not be

really could not be happier honestly we've just got ourselves a fantastic cast and they are teetering and they are so close to that line of maybe hating each other

very quickly but as long as we stay as close to that line as possible. It's going to be such a good show and it's going to be such a great first season. I completely agree. That is a very good place to be. I don't see them going to the dark side of full blown hate fest.

I think they're going to be able to maintain this because they do seem to care about each other. And the other part is, and this is also the Jersey factor, at least early Jersey. They can dish it and they can take it. So that's important. So I don't see it becoming an issue yet. four episodes or sorry four seasons in maybe but i think we're going to be able to tow this line for for a while and i'm pretty thrilled about it yeah there's really only one person that i feel like

can't handle it right now but current events tells me rula even though she might have a really tough season with all the things that brian is allegedly not allegedly doing oh brian i do think that she still no matter what will come back for a second season because of all the things that the shit that's going on. I can't imagine that they're still together. I don't really know for sure. But all that stuff that came out that we talked about in the second episode, towards the end of the second episode when we recapped it,

it tells me that she does have a very interesting path throughout this season. That's going to be pretty captivating. It's going to be interesting to see what the rest of the cast says. But I don't know. I mean, we talk about how weird they select housewives for different shows. They nailed it with this show. They did. They really did.

No notes. I like the entire cast. I think they all fit. They're all very different and yet very similar, which is something that you want in a show. So yes, hats off to them for the casting. The way that they were able to get the show going so quickly is impressive.

We didn't have a whole lot of meandering around, trying to get to know people. We got to know them, just enough. And then we're going to get to know them more as they get into the bullshit. We didn't have that weird transition period where it's like tiptoeing into it. We kind of ripped the Band-Aid off, which is also risky.

a lot of shows getting into it too fast, not Rhode Island. It's perfect right now. And I hope that it stays this way forever. I'm sure we'll have some bumps in the road. But for now, we're in a really good place. So let's jump right in. Just get into this bad boy. And we start out with kind of a triple juxtapose scene.

In one scene, we have Rosie and her husband, and they're showing their renovations. They bought a one-bedger. This is a crazy move. one bedroom, one bath, over a three-car garage, which, who made that original house? Like, what is that for? I have no idea. I really have no idea what this house could have been. My best guess is maybe it was like one of those weird houses that was built like just for Airbnb or for one purpose. Yeah.

And like hunting lodge, maybe I don't know how close they are to the docks, but fishing comes to minds. Like maybe it was one of those things where you can pull your boat in. And it was just like a like a satellite home for somebody who lived in the area somewhat, but didn't feel like driving 25, 30 minutes out to where they need to go. So they kept their boat in one of the garages, some sort of ATV or something like that. Like that's all I could really come up with. It didn't really make any sense. I fucking love her husband though.

The fact that he's like, I see so much promise in this. I'm going to make this 5,000 square feet. and we're going to figure everything out. We're going to get the excavators out here. And we're just going to start digging and see what we can get into. That is so interesting to me. I love people that can do that. Yeah, I agree.

And I think that it's going to be a great house. You know, you got a great starting point. Three car garage, one bedroom, one bath. It's only up from there. But yeah, it's funny that you were thinking about the logistics of it, too, because that's the first. I was like, wait. What a weird house.

And then in another scene, you got Joelle. Ellen with her husband and then you got Liz with her husband. Those are the three setups. And we're talking about similar things across the board. In one scene with Rosie, we're talking about this polyamorous relationship that Kelsey let slip in Jo Ellen and her husband, they're talking about Rula. In Liz and her husband,

we're talking about Dino and the rumors. So to sum it all up, we're just rumor hopping right now. Rumor happening here, rumor happened there. Joe Ellen is a little apprehensive about the rule of situation. wishes she got more of a heads up, but going to see where it goes. Liz and her husband. We're talking more and more about Dino in this alleged affair, right?

She keeps saying the same thing over and over again, like selling us this, this bill of goods. We were really good friends and me and Jerry were together every day until he started sport fishing. And then he said to Dino, take care of her. So yeah, you saw us out together four or five times a week at the close. club at dinner. Yeah, no, that's weird. That's a weird setup. Yeah, that's a very weird setup.

I also don't really understand the logistics of his sport fishing because she says he's gone three out of the four weeks. And I'm like, wait a minute. Is he only home for a week? That's what sounds like. That we do. And is that all year or is that just like, because you have a very similar situation to Kelsey then, if that's, that's going to be.

Sport fishing is like. It's a season, right? So it's, yeah. So within that three months, he's gone for three out of the four weeks. That kind of makes sense. So I get it. But I don't think I'm buying what you're selling with this whole Dino thing. And you're really talking about it a lot.

And everything that you do at the party later in the episode really convinces me that there's a lot more there. And you're going about it in a very strange way. So talking to Jerry, who's not very talking about all of this. It doesn't. Not at all. Like while they're walking. He wants no part of it. He wants no part of this.

I thought there was going to be a much large. conversation because it seems like, did we even see, was she wearing those boots again that she was wearing with Rosie in the beginning? Or with Kelsey in the beginning. Yeah, I couldn't remember if it was those. But either way, when we stop and we're like, all right, we, let's go sit down.

There's an nice shaded area. Let's go sit down. I'm like, oh, we're really going to get into it. No, Liz talks about 98% of it, really trying to get us to understand what's going on with Dino. And Jerry's like, yeah, now I get it. Yeah, rumors. Uh-huh.

Mm-hmm. Can we go home now? Are we done with all this? Yeah, this is great. I don't know what to make of this. I mean, I think if we just left it alone, I probably would have had some thoughts and feelings at some point. But now you're talking about it a whole lot.

I've got a lot of questions. Exactly. That's all it did. It raised a lot more questions than it did answers. But Joe Ellen and her hubs are talking about the Rula thing, like I said, and they're both going to be at the party tonight. So she's like, great, I can talk to Rula. and Gary, is he Gary?

Gary and Jerry. He's Gary. Gary is like, yeah, well, I can talk to the husband too. I'm like, all right, here we go. We're getting into some of the bullshit. This is what I've been waiting for. And just to set up the scene once again, this is all about the retaliation via calling Joe Ellen's business and complaining to HR,

which is like, does that happen? I mean, like, I don't think that. That's what happens. If you complain inside of the company, I get it. Maybe if you have a, if you have a very forward facing role, like you're the face of a marketing campaign, maybe, because it does kind of bridge the gap between, especially if we're already in reality TV, it would make sense because it's image based. But I don't think that like, I don't think that her role is that forward facing that she needs to worry about her image or what it's going to do to the company. Now, the bill of fucking goods that we get from Brian later really doesn't make any sense to me. But in this scene when we're talking about it, we find out that Brian allegedly and not allegedly because he confirms it.

But Brian reached out and sent an email and sent a full-blown formal complaint about what Joellen was doing and what Joe Ellen has been doing with him and with his marriage and all the things that she's been doing. And it got bounced around a little bit, got to HR, went to HR, went to her boss. that her boss ended up telling her about all this shit. Why that happened, I have no fucking idea. And again, what we talk about later doesn't really make any sense because I don't believe any of it. But it's just ridiculous that that's where you went. That's exactly where you went.

And all that tells me is she decided that she was going to use this information to hurt us. Let's hurt her. Let's hit her where it hurts. Let's take her job away. No. That's just not. Those two are not correlated at all. That doesn't make any sense.

That is a leap. Yeah. No, he cheated on you. You, she didn't cheat on you. So why is she catching strays? And I get it. Is she perpetuating the rumor? Probably.

But she's not the only one. Everyone's talking about this. Now we're talking about it. All of Rhode Island's talking about it. Get the hell out of here, Brian. Yeah. But we jump over to Kelsey. And we get to meet Bill.

Billy is the other. William. Little Bill. Little Bill. Oh, dude. Don't call him little Bill. Oh, that. Yeah.

He's jacked. Well, no, because we're thinking two different things now. Was little Bill? Yeah, the cartoon, was Little Bill? Little Bill. Based on, yeah. Yeah, that's where I went. And, uh, yeah.

Oh, my God. I never thought about that after all the Bill Cosby should. I didn't think about the ramifications of Little Bill. You know, he lives in Montgomery County. Little Bill? Well, big gross bill. Yeah. Yeah, lives, you know, sure.

Yeah, whatever. Not much of a life left there. Yeah. No. Yeah, dude, I watched the shit out of a little bill when it was on. Yeah, see? It's a good show. I wonder what kind of weird things creeped into my subconscious from that show.

Should we revisit? Do a little bit of a watch. Watch party. Little Bill. Little Bill and the Bros. At Xfinity Live. No. State side, bro.

State side. That's right. Yeah, that's Quigley. Yep, shout out state side. Yeah, there you go. Now, anyway, let's get back to business here. Bill and Kelsey have known each other since about seventh grade. And we're just trying to get a read, right? Because Kelsey's in a very strange situation. On one hand, she's got a man that she lives with who's only home six months out of the year. On the other hand, she has her middle school sweetheart, Billy. And she's trying to figure out what it is she wants. And as they're sitting there talking, it's very funny to like, they're planning this future kind of, like this soft plan. It's like, well, do you want kids?

Well, yeah, eventually no more than two. What about you? Well, as long as we have a nanny, we can have as many kids as we need, blah, blah, blah. Bill apparently knows about the setup. And I guess it's kind of endearing that she can talk about the situation. He gives actual input. He's not being a dick about it. So all I got from this, Bill seems fine.

I have no issues with him yet. And she's in a very weird situation. All I got from this is, are they hooking up? I don't. There is no chemistry. But, but I will say,

I like that Bill wasn't like full throttle doing it for the camera. I also love that he's, he seems like a fucking pie's on. He seems like a straight up Jersey guy. Like he's just out there. I mean, again, we just introduce a new character.

Jersey. Why? I don't get it. I still will never. understand this. But yeah, I just had so many questions because I'm like, oh, we finally get to meet the other guy and you keep telling us way more than you really should because we don't even have these questions yet. But here comes Bill. All right. Yeah, we're getting ahead of it, I guess. I guess that's the approach. I don't really understand. Are you guys hook it up? Like, I don't get it.

You guys are really good friends, your family friends. You've known each other since the seventh grade. Your mom wants you to be with him. And he's the future. He's her future. He's her future. from sudden law. So like, I'm very confused. I'm very confused. I thought we were just meeting a full-fledged and Kelsey even says this. You know,

my, my boyfriend goes down to Miami. We understand each other there. It's a very don't ask, don't tell situation. So why not? I mean, he gets to do it.

Why can't I have my fun too? But then I'm watching the two of you and I'm like, not once did you say anything about hooking up? Not once did you say anything about, you know, dating or doing anything. It was just a very platonic. You guys have known each other for a very long time relationship.

So I, I have more questions. Once again, Kelsey strikes again. I have more questions. You keep telling us stuff and thinking that it's going to put it to bed. And I'm sitting here having way more questions about what you're doing with your life than I would have if you just didn't say anything. But I don't know. She's a conundrum.

She sure is. And you're right. She is setting up the questions for us. And then we get to watch and hopefully they're answered. I don't really know. It's a very strange approach. I'm very engaged, though. I am very engaged.

I think she's trying to, like you said, figure out how to get ahead of it. But by doing that, you're telling us things that we don't know. Yeah, exactly. She is so far ahead. Exactly. But I, you know, and he was self-aware. Like, I thought it was kind of funny when he's like,

you can move in with me. Not the same size. Like, all right. At least he's, you know, he's himself. All right. Bill, judgment's out still. But I think he's fine. I'm sure he'll do something stupid and I'll hate him,

but for now he's fine. Now let's get to Liz and Alicia with the dolls in the living room, which is a very interesting choice. I thought they were the kids' dolls. They are not. Her daughter is allowed to play with them ever so gently. The daughter can play with your toys,

which I don't care if people collect things. I don't care if you like dolls or whatever it may be. But if you are going to be a grown-up with a doll collect, and you have a child, you have to let the kid play with the dolls. Yeah, or like put them in a very secure place in your house where the child's not going to even see them, I guess. Like the living room? Not the living room.

Well, she did say because they're renovating, she had to put the dolls down there. So I guess maybe she has them somewhere else. That's a choice either way. That's a choice too. It's a big choice to be like, I'm going to put them on display. Yeah, it's a massive choice. I mean, again, I have more questions just because she didn't full-blown say that she's collecting them, but it seems like they're collectibles.

So it's like, okay, we can stop it there. No, I don't know. Is there a weird emotional attachment to these dolls? Is there some weird work that we don't know about you, Alicia? I need to know more about what's going on here. I need more time with these dolls to figure out exactly. Like, I need to watch her interact with dolls. All we got was just like kind of a segue like, oh yeah, I've got these dolls over here.

This is what we do. I need to just watch her in a room by herself with a hidden camera to see what she does with these dolls. Talks to them probably. Yeah, I need to know what's going. because there's some weird shit going on for sure. brushes their hair and talks to them. Yeah, yeah.

And then it, yeah, and then it, yeah, unpacking trauma or something probably deep in there. That's the vibe that I was getting from that. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. I have a really good knack of making things not fun. That's for sure. My bad, everybody.

Sorry, guys. It's kind of a bummer. But anyway. Yeah, no, unfortunately. But they're talking Dino as well. And, you know, Liz is like they can believe whatever they want. And Alicia's like, yeah, like why I'm not married. Every time anybody on this cast tries to give examples of why we shouldn't believe something,

it makes me believe it more. I know. Because she's saying like, oh, you know, like, why I'm not married. You know, we've been engaged for nine years and we got engaged right before we had our daughter. I haven't seen a success. We've heard this song and dance a lot on Bravo, right? My parents had a bad marriage. I'm afraid to get married.

My sisters, all five of them or six sisters, five of them got divorced. So yeah, like I'm a little hesitant to dive in. But there's way more to this. Yeah. And she tries to like tiptoe in the beginning like this is why. But the real reasons are like he made me sign a pre-up. I found out that he's not giving me anything, like quite literally nothing. This guy sounds like a total dickhead.

Like, he does, but I need the timeline because if it's really just Alicia who has this, this marriage committal issue, if you want to call it that. And she seems like over the last nine years, if he made her sign the pre-up immediately, like right when they got engaged, right when they had their daughter, okay, then yes, Bill is a dickhead for sure. But if it happened along the way and he was like, hey, let's get married, hey, let's get married, hey, let's get married, hey, let's get married. And she kept saying no, he may be protecting himself saying, if we. do eventually get married, you maybe wait like five or six years because you have these commitment issues. What if we get married and then you're just immediately gone? Then I'm a little bit more on Bill's side. So I need a timeline before I'm really going to call Bill a dickhead. Because again, if it's in the beginning, yes, he's an asshole. He's doing too much. You have a daughter with this

woman. You should be making sure that she's secure in some way. And then, yeah, when she talks about how if we end up leaving each other, I need to make sure that I have a house. So I want to try to figure all those things out because her name's not on anything. He won't let her put the name on the house. That's where I'm like this guy that's saying. Yeah, that's where I go back to him being a dick. But again, I do need a timeline because I understand it. And if she's going to present herself that way, like, I'm afraid to get married because of my

parents and all that. Okay, fine. But if you're the one who's denying the marriage and you were denying it for five to six years, I don't really blame him for doing these things necessarily because you could just up and leave as soon as you feel uncomfortable. I don't know. It seems like a very weird. situation that I need more information.

Yeah, I agree. Based on some of the husbands we've met thus far, not confident that he's going to be a good dude. No, definitely not. I mean, we'll see, I guess. But let's get to Rula. And Rula's having a friend, Mida, I believe her name is. If I pronounce that wrong, I'm sorry.

And Seta is her other friend. If I pronounce that wrong, I'm sorry. They're having a catered lunch, which, who doesn't? You know, having some friends over. Make sure you call the caterer totally. And somebody brings up her kids. You know, how are they and all of this craziness going on? She's like, well, you know, I've definitely sensed a difference and things definitely

aren't normal around here. And it's not easy to mentally process all of the damage caused. And she's getting choked up in a confessional. All of this, I think, is very important because what she says in other scenes doesn't align with how I think she's actually feeling. And granted, this is a very nuanced situation in a lot of ways because there are kids involved. There's a business involved, all these other things. So she's addressing that. I will say this. The friends super supportive of the husband. Really, really team Brian here.

They're like, look, just get over it. Move on. Come on. Go show. They literally tell her, go have sex with them. Go have some fun. Like, what? Well, Rula kind of like laid that down. She laid the foundation for this by saying, you know, in our culture, it's not something that we ever really consider. So I get it. And it seems like all of her friends are of the same thinking. So I kind of expected that. Her friends, it was a bit of a hurdle for me to get over it because her friends struck me

immediately as those types. Whoa, there's cameras here. I'm putting on. I'm going to say some things that I've never said before. I'm going to be very theatrical about getting tea or something. Like, I don't know what the hell was going on.

I had a really hard time with that because I just wanted to focus on Rula and I kept drifting over like, what's this moment doing? She's trying to like position herself to get the camera. I don't like that. enough of you i don't want to deal with this shit anymore but once i finally got into it yes that was very weird and that is very old school thinking like ah come on he had a transgression he made a mistake you got to move on you can't be living in this stuff i'm like no no i think she needs to hold him

accountable i haven't seen her hold him accountable yet she's only been on the screen for you know a total of like 15 minutes but in that 15 minutes she has not been taking a whole lot of accountability towards Brian and saying, yeah, I need to make sure that I straighten them out. I need to make sure that he understands what's going to happen here and that there are repercussions to all of these things, not only with me, not only with our marriage, but with the kids. There's a lot of things going on here. I don't know why I just adapted an Italian accent while I was doing all of that. Dude, I have a really hard time with this show.

It just brings out the Jersey and me. And I'm not even from Jersey. But either way, this was an interesting scene too, just because it's like, I got the vibe at first, can't rule a have this conversation with other people on the show. Why does she need a whole gang of friends to come over to have this conversation? She doesn't want to broach the topic with the ladies on the show. Correct. And that's all I took away from that.

But again, we still have to piece information together when we're getting all this because it's all new information to us. Yeah, exactly. And the more she talks, again, the more I'm assuming that something's drastically wrong. But she's not really trying to convince that nothing's wrong in this scene.

That's why it's interesting going from this. how she talks to the other ladies. She in this scene is actually questioning things and actually showing some emotion. It's just her two friends there are saying, stop. Just have sex with him and get over it, lady, which is kind of wacky. I thought it was hysterical when she's saying, you know, it's not really in our culture to get divorced. And they're like, aren't you divorced? I don't really want to talk about that.

Yeah. Come on. Just talk about it. Who gives a shit? You got to give us something. But let's get to Ashley. And I don't know his name. So I wrote down Jeremy, Jason and Jeffrey.

What is his name? Jared. Jared. I didn't even get Jared on there. Is it Jared? Who are you talking about? Jared and Ashley. Jared.

Yeah. Jared. Yeah. Okay. I wrote Jeremy, Jeffrey, and Jason. Jared. All right. The fourth J name.

Got it. Yep. Okay. This is now two episodes in a row that you've missed his name. So I hope it's not a theme, but. Knowing you, I feel like it's going to be a thing. It's probably a thing now. I will say this about these two.

They seem to genuinely love each other. And they seem to get along really well. And they communicate extremely well. And it doesn't feel fake to me. It doesn't feel like it's forced for being on screen. They genuinely seem to have a good rapport back and forth. Love to see that. And it's the same issues.

You know, this money pit that they're in. Audrey's is just not doing well. And it leads to him not being present at home. and his insecurities are coming home from work because he made minuscule money he's asking himself what the fuck am i doing ashley's still working she probably does better than him influencing i would imagine uh and she has to continue doing that to support the family more or less like she seems to be the breadwinner as he's trying this experiment with audries i'm curious where this storyline's going to go i am interested right now and i think it's captivating if we're on episode 10 and

we're still talking about, what do I do with the cafe? I think I'm going to be over it. So I hope we see some movement here in some way, shape, or form. I think that what this, them as a couple, I feel like, brings in a whole lot of like,

oh, they're very well grounded. They're going through things that the average person is going through. Like, yes, you get the extravagance of all the shit that's going on over at Liz and Jerry's because of all the things that are going on with the weed business and him sport fishing. But then you can come back to, well, Ashley is,

you know, bachelor, or bachelorette and bachelorette nation and all of those things that come with it and same with Jared. They're going through very real experiences. But like you said, real experiences are interesting for a little while if there is a resolution. If there's not, we lose interest very quickly. So I agree. By the end of the season, if we're still talking about the money pit that is Audrey's with no resolution, like, okay, here's what we're going to do. I'm going to hire a full-time manager who's going to be there that I actually trust. And then I get to spend some time with the kids. It's like, cool, pay off. Great. Now we can focus on.

Ashley moving forward with her career and all the things she's going to do to bring in money. But again, if we're sitting here at the end of the season with the same shit, I'm going to lose interest very quickly. Agreed. And I do like this episode set up in we're really getting to, we've met the husbands, but now we're really getting to meet the husbands and we're kind of going one after the other. Because now we get to Rosie and her husband, who seems like a delightful man. This guy, good vibes, which means he's probably going to turn out to be a monster because I just said that. but they have a really good good relationship too apparently and you know they're talking kids i guess it was pretty clear that she was not wanting kids and now he's doing the thing where

he's like well we don't want to rule it out you know he's done a little hint out there a little feeler see if she pick it up you know and she's not fully out but this was a funny sequence because she's like yeah you know i don't know five or 10 years and he's trying to very nicely say like oh yeah but you know you'll be 30 yeah she's like I look great it's like you do but that's not that has no bearing on your ovaries so yeah very funny yeah again this is really just to check in on all the couples figure out what's going on with everybody where they are in their life what they want for the next couple of years but I get no bad vibes from Phil I think his name is I get no bad vibes from him at all which he likes to Phil seems like a bad

omen. Yeah, they're all bad omens. They're just going to come crashing down on us. I just, I can't stop myself from doing that. Like, watching the scene, I'm like, I really hope you're not using the, uh, the public eye that comes along with this show to guilt your wife into wanting kids when she already said that she didn't want kids and you agreed. Please don't do that. I don't want to watch that because we're going to be on team Rosie regardless because she's

the housewife and you're the husband. But don't do that. If that's what you're doing, Mel, if this is just a conversation that you guys have kind of sparked in the last. you know, a couple of months and we're seeing that, fine, that's fully cool because that's real and that's how marriages work.

But I need to make sure that you're not using the show and her image, if you will, from this show to get what you want because that's slimy. Agreed. And now that you said that, that's probably going to happen because we have a really bad track record, especially with husbands. I know.

That's where we really shit the bed. And we're the first to say it because I would say in most, things, that's like 95% of things. We're pretty good at predictions. That's, we just simply are not when it comes to the husbands and, you know, but we're prepping for the party and Alicia, you know, she always thought she was a drug dealer's wife, loves that era. Totally, I get what you're saying.

We get to see Liz's stepdaughter who has a built in accent in her name. It's Skyla. Yes. Skyla. Skyla. Yeah, Skyla. but that's actually her name, which is great. I love that.

But Rula is on her way to the event with Brian. And this is the first time we've really seen. I think we got a glimpse of them before, but did we are this the first time? We've seen pictures. We've certainly seen pictures. We've seen picks. Not the picks he was sending his sidepiece.

You don't want to see those. But we've seen picks of Brian's face. I immediately hate the guy because she's like, Do you like my outfit? Yeah, it's very revealing. Okay, Brian, what a weird thing to say. You really, you're doing a lot. We see this all the time, too.

It's like, you should be in the doghouse, man. You should be complimentary. You should be up her ass. You should be trying to make her feel as good as possible to the point that we realize how fake it is. But then we also understand, like, yeah, that's just kind of where you are. So we're just going to kind of feel it out.

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The whole point of inviting Dino to this party is to show people that there's nothing going on. We're just good friends with Dino. He's friends with my husband. It's no big deal. again, not doing what you think it's doing because immediately Kelsey's like, him being here just kind of reminds you of what people are all saying. It's like exactly.

This is where I have a hard time with it because he should be there. If he's as close to you and your husband as you say he is, he should just be there and then we just don't make a big deal about it. Like, oh, yeah, Dino's here because he's our best friend. You just don't talk about it. You don't even reference you. No, he should just be there floating around talking to all the people. that he knows because he's friends with you and Jerry,

it shouldn't be any deeper than that. It shouldn't at no point should you call attention to the fact that Dino's here. It shouldn't be a whole thing. Now, obviously, I'm sure him and Polly get along. It seems like Polly knows everybody. Dolores and Polly are there. Dolores looking great. Polly looking great.

They're engaged. Love that. Yeah. Let that just be what it is. He's just one of the dudes that's there. He'd let him float around and do whatever. Do not call attention to it because then that's going to do exactly what you don't want it to do.

I'm also very happy with the amount of Dolo that we're getting. It's just a sprinkle. That's all we needed. It is. It's just like a little reminder when she pops up. Like, oh, Dolos here. Yay. But she's not making her storylines or anything.

She could be, I think, like, Synthony Bailey for Atlanta. I think that's absolutely perfect, maybe even a little bit less because I actually think that symphony's role on Atlanta's perfect. But I think because Dolo with New Jersey, favorite. What did I say? Did I say symphony? Yeah.

Wow. How about that? It's like I had a fucking aneurysm. Cynthia, I feel like where she is with Atlanta is absolutely perfect. I think Dolo could be a step below that for this show and that's absolutely perfect. Completely agree. But Bill arrives

to the party. And is this 70s? He's wearing a suit vest and suit pants. And that's it. Is that the 70s? Studio 54 spanned a couple. No, it didn't span a couple of decades. I think it only last. Yeah, it was the 70s, I think. Yeah. Right. Is that, I mean, I'm saying is that a 70s look. Yes, it was definitely a 70s look. Okay. And I was going to make fun of him. But then I was like, ah, you know, I would probably wear that same outfit. So I probably shouldn't make fun of him. But Kelsey is making sure that we understand Bill's friends with Jerry or Gary. Yeah. Or whatever G guy. So he'd be here regardless. Jerry. thank you. He'd be here regardless. He's not my plus one guys. Stop asking. We didn't. It's the same fucking thing as Dino. It's the exact same thing as Dino. You invited him and you want

everybody to see him there, but you also want to make sure that everybody knows he's only there because he's friends with Jerry. He knows all these guys. He's friends with everybody. He's not really my plus one. But obviously, you know, circumstances, we're going to show up together. But look, that's it. He'd be here regardless. It's not that. big of a deal. Same thing with Dino. Dino would be here regardless. It's not that big of a deal, but I'm going to make sure everybody knows Dino's here because he's friends with us. That's what we're going to do. It's the exact same thing. It's a spitting image. And it is so funny to me that that's exactly what's going on. And they think it's doing the opposite, which is my favorite part.

Like, this is a great plan. It's like, stop talking about them. Yeah, please. And then you might be okay, but still probably not. But Rula and Brian arrive. And we get some cold hellos and Alicia with a good one-liner. Look at Brian coming in with two costumes, the 70s and a faithful husband, whom roasted, got you. Then you get Ashley and Jeffrey, Jason, I wrote literally, this is what I wrote.

Jared. I know, this is what I wrote. Do you? I did that time, yeah, but I wrote this that I got signed. Jafasonry is what I wrote. Jeffrey, Jason, and there's another one in there.

But, yeah. But like, this is your problem all the time. Now you're going to focus on that, and you're just going to get his name wrong the rest of the season. And then magically, at some point, you're going to get Jared and you're going to want everybody to be happy that you got Jared. We're all going to have to clap for you. Yeah. And?

I'm just saying it's funny. And this is what's going to happen. Yep. It sure will. But let's get to the main course here because obviously Joe Ellen and her husband had a plan to talk to Rula and Brian. It looks like Rula and Brian had the same plan. They must not have discussed it beforehand on how they were going to handle it, but they did have this plan to go talk to them.

Now, they're all chatting. It starts out with, hey, what's going on calling Joe Ellen's work? Joe lays out the whole situation. And then this dick heads like, you know, there's certain things about which I don't really want to say right now. Brian, we know what's up, dude. What are you doing by not telling us what's going on here? Big theory time.

pre-up involved. I guarantee you there's some sort. If he admits that he actually was unfaithful, then he has to do X, Y, and Z based on the pre-nop. There's probably an infidelity clause. That's all I got from this. Now, it could just be pride, obviously. There's cameras there. He doesn't want to admit it. Oh, that's what this is. I could potentially just be pride. It doesn't look pride. No, I know. He does not look very prideful. Honestly, he would kind of squandered every sniveling little worm. Yeah. No, but my, my, if, If you have to ask me what I think's going on here, I think it's that. I think if he actually cops to it, not only to Rula, not only to other people in the room,

but also to the cameras that are there that's going to air this on Bravo, there's a bigger issue here. So he's not going to talk about it. And as soon as he did that, I'm like, oh, my God, he's going to shut down. We're not going to get a real conversation out of this. Gary's going to be able to bulldoze his way through it, which by the way, Gary and Joe Ellen are just, they don't give a shit. They do not care that he cheated on Rula. Joe Ellen does because she actually weirdly likes Rula and wants to stand up for her and wants to defend her, which, you know, that might be too far too gone.

But for Gary, he's like, can we just talk about the fact that you just broach this subject with HR from her job and basically tried to get her fired because she outed you for cheating on your wife? Like, can we just talk about that for a second? Well, I mean, there's a lot of things that are going on here. There's a lot of things at play. I just, you know, I don't want to. All right, fine. Talk to me like I'm fucking three years old. what happened well i ran into a friend that knows and works with joe ellen's company and he knows

the guy who owns the company and i was mentioning it and he goes oh yeah let me reach out to him right now i'll talk to him right now about this whole situation and where did the email come in brian well he said send an email he said send an email so i did you sent a very formal email to hr at her company and filed an actual logistical complaint about Joellen and her behavior towards you. How does that make any sense? Well, it's, uh, yeah, I mean, it's just what I was told to do. I just had to do that. No, what the fuck are we talking about here?

This is not normal behavior from anybody. No, and he's like, my intent wasn't to get her fired. What's your intent? He's like, you know, she was to have her stop saying certain things. Brian, you cheated. And she's reiterating. fact that you got caught cheating. Rula, he's the bad guy here.

Not Joe Ellen. You're yelling across the table at her. Like, stop spreading these lies. You're telling us it's true. So this makes no sense to me. This is so overkill on don't kill the messenger. The Rula aspect makes the most sense to me because she thought, and like, it's tough, too, because you're going up against Joe Ellen and Gary, who are very unified, understand what

they want to do. And their intention is to get to the bottom of it. and to tell you that it was wrong and to tell you to back the fuck off and not do that shit anymore, especially when you're the cheating party in all of this, you're the slime ball and all of this. Rula thought that maybe her and Brian were going to go in as a somewhat unified front. Like, hey, let's stand our grounds. Let's get to the bottom of this and we'll be able to just talk through everything and maybe get to a better place. Brian just shut the fuck up.

He just left her out to dry the whole time. And Rula is looking at him and I felt so bad for her. She already got cheated on. Now she has to try to defend this piece of shit. And she's looking at him like, are you, do you want to say anything right now? Like even if you just said, hey, I'm sorry. It went too far. I shouldn't have done that.

And I, I apologize for leaving my wife out the dry at this point. He doesn't even want to say that. He won't say anything. And again, that's what I said in the beginning of conversation. He's so afraid to actually say anything in this instance because it's going to confirm his infidelity, which would be worse for him. Either that's legally or just because he's a piece of shit. He doesn't want people to actually know and he doesn't want to admit.

that he cheated on his wife, so then people can come for him. That's all I got from all of this. And Brian, snibbling worm. Facts. I think you're right. I mean, that's the only thing that makes sense to me. Or he's just so uncomfortable because his dirty laundry is getting aired that he doesn't know how to act.

Because Gary says, like, look, at the very least, if you have an issue, call me and we'll talk about it. And I'll talk to Joellen about it. Brian laughs. Like, what, what's funny? Why are you laughing? right now. I think he's so wildly uncomfortable and he's trying to still maintain this fake tough guy thing where he's not rattled that it's coming out in just whatever this is,

this awful performance that we're seeing. And Joe Ellen, like you said, Joellen and Gary, very aligned. They know what the goal is here. And they just keep doubling down. It's like he's having an affair. It's not my problem. Rula. He had an indiscretion and it's water under the bridge. no okay that's you're you're playing semantics now that doesn't change anything because it still happened and that's what we're talking about here it happened people found out joelan tried to do you a solid and send you the picture did she have ulterior motives yeah probably she probably wanted to talk some shit i don't know she seems to like doing that but she was looking out for you more or less by saying here's your piece of shit husband just wanted to let you know

because everyone else is sharing this picture. So I wanted to send it. Like, that's the other part of this. No one else brought it to your attention. And everyone else saw it. So Joel was actually a better friend than everybody else that knows you because they didn't say anything.

So that's how I look at it. And she's taking it out on Joellen because she's quote unquote perpetuating it. And you cannot go into a confessional given what we know, given what you're currently hearing. Okay. because Joellen again is saying maybe it's not done. Rules like he's not having an affair. He is. I promise on my kids.

You can't go to a confessional and then say, I'm not burying my head in the sand. I'm not turning a blind eye. He said it's done. And I believe Brian. Why would you believe Brian? This whole thing is because Brian lied to you. So why are we so quick to believe Brian when other people are telling you that this is

happening? I understand not wanting to give into the rumor mill. I understand not wanting to air out your family shit on TV, I guess. But if he cheated with this chick and people are saying he's still with this chick and they're swearing on their kids, maybe ask him, maybe do some due diligence. I don't know. I have no idea. And that ride home was so uncomfortable.

The two of them in the car on the ride home. And she says everything that we've already said. I thought maybe you were going to say something. We gave you opportunities to speak up. Yeah, I just didn't want to fight. Like, what do you want me to do? Raise my voice to a female? No.

Nobody said that you wanted to fight with her or raise your voice. You should just stand up for yourself or at the very least stand up for me and say, I'm sorry I got her in this position. That conversation could have gone so differently if you had just taken like a morsel of accountability of any. of any sort of responsibility and said, yeah, you know what? I put my wife in a really bad position. I feel bad.

I feel bad for what I did to you, Jo Ellen. Like, if you just apologized about everything and still, again, didn't confirm that you did any of these things, just apologize for what you did afterwards in the aftermath and leaving your wife out to dry,

the whole thing could have got swept under the rug. Like, I'm really sorry. It was a moment of weakness. I shouldn't have done anything. I feel like things were just spiraling, but whatever, literally say anything.

Whatever the first excuse was. Use that again. Just use it. Just again, like if you want to be at a better place and you want your wife to be in a better place because she again did nothing wrong. She did nothing wrong. She's trying to help your dumb ass out. And instead you go and just completely turtle and don't say anything and then come out of it like, you know, I'm the bigger man. I didn't want to fight with a woman.

What? How did you take that away from it? I have no idea. And when they're at the table and she literally is like, aren't you going to say something? He's like, we all have things we do. I'm not talking about anything. Great. Nice showing, Brian.

And yeah, I don't know. Like that given what's already happened between the two of them, you'd think that would be grounds for her to be like, oh, maybe there's problems here still. Like, maybe I shouldn't defend him publicly. We might see that still.

Yeah, I know. I get, again, like I understand it's a nuanced situation. It's just watching this scene. He's not even supporting you now. Yeah.

For his indiscreet. as he lightly said. Like, woof. Anyway, it doesn't help things when you're walking away because,

again, to make this comparison is so stupid. You did cheat. And we all know you cheated. So to then say, next she's going to say I was at a diddy freak off

makes me think that you were at a diddy freak off. He would be delighted. I don't know because you're trying to compare that being so far-fetched to you cheating, but you cheated. And we know you cheated. So that's a weird comparison. So now I think that you're out a ditty freak off allegedly. How about that, Brian?

But after their awkward car ride, we get back to the party. I love a magician at a party. I think it's a great move. I think every party should have a magician just keeps it fun. Ashley and, uh, this. time I wrote, Giraffaman are step eight, yeah, are going to stop it. Audrey's on the way home. This is actually when I had that thought of, I hope this isn't the entirety of the season.

Yeah. You know, just like the little, we're going to stop there. It's like, okay, guys. Yeah. But this is Liz's big moment because she wants to go down on the seawall with Jerry and Dino. And I want everybody to see Jerry and Dino and me walk down there together. because we're friends, then just go down to the seawall.

Stop announcing it to the party and announcing the intentions. Like that you're not, it's crazy. Everyone on the show does this. And it's so funny, but I don't know how to see it. It is incredibly funny. No,

it is incredibly funny. I couldn't believe that she said that. I thought it was a confessional. I thought she was talking to us like, hey, maybe if everybody sees the three, no, you're actually announcing it to the whole party.

Kelsey takes the right of approach. This is the right approach. Now, no, actually, you know what? No, I'm not even going to do that. I was going to say maybe she could go in a little softer. I think she went in soft enough. I think going in there and being like, wait, what? Why are you, you want to do that? Because you want, I don't know if you should do that. I think that's the wrong move here. And again, there's no substantiated evidence that you guys are actually hooking up, that you and Dino are hooking up when Jerry's gone. You're making a worse case for yourself by announcing this. You could just go do it. I still don't even think you should do that.

I think you should probably just take Jerry down there. And then maybe you come back and you tell Dino how nice it was, whatever, I don't care. But you're doing so much. And again, it just brings us back to what we talked about with everybody else. You're doing so much that it's making us ask questions that we wouldn't be asking if you weren't doing so much. You could just leave this alone. Dino's obviously there because he's a friend. You and your husband go take a walk down to the seawall because it's beautiful.

And then you come back and say, wow, it's so beautiful. Jerry and I just got back from there. and it's Jerry's birthday party, so this is a great time to do that. All of that makes total sense. Snapping at Kelsey, because Kelsey's like, ah,

that's probably a bad idea. Rumors are actually swirling more because you keep talking about Dino at this party. It's very important, the ongoing rumors. It's very important to the ongoing rumors. I guess, yeah,

because she kept saying ongoing after that too. But yeah, Kelsey has the right approach. I mean, I guess advice for Kelsey is maybe don't say anything to her. Like, if she's going to keep, talking about it, just let her go and eventually people are going to ask questions.

If it gets to the point where it's like, hey, why didn't you have my back? This is what you point to. This is why I don't have your back because when I tell you what not to do, you do it anyway. It doesn't really matter. But yeah, she just splits immediately. And all I could think was it sounds like Liz is a little inebriated. Maybe she's thinking way too far into this one. Yeah.

She sounded a little havered, especially when she comes into the house and she goes up the steps right away and she just keeps repeating it over and over and she said, fuck you, I don't want to deal with any of this shit i i don't know i can't make head or tails of this i don't know what she's doing and why she's trying to do this to us i don't either because as she's storming off to go upstairs she's proclaiming pretty much to the party i wanted to be at the sea wall with them and then kelsey says that and i just i don't give a fun and like goes upstairs now while they're upstairs we get an interesting conversation and a very real very heated very emotional conversation Yep. Always happens in the bathroom. Hot mics.

Yep. Hot mic moment. Something happened between Kelsey and Dino. We don't know what. All we know is Liz says, it's a great question. Ask Kelsey. Very fun layer. Wasn't expecting this. Nope. Very excited to know what's going on. But Kelsey, you get a lot of irons in the fire right now, dude. Yeah.

She has a lot of big question marks surrounding. her. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of question marks there. Now, my best guess, which again, doesn't really look great for Liz, maybe Kelsey and Dino hooked up and Liz got upset about it. Like, that's how I could think about. Oh, now this is what's happening. So maybe that's what the root of all of this issue is. I have no fucking idea. But when the rest of the cast comes up, and this is, again, this is the side of a good cast. I know what's early on and they just want to be a part of everything. But I love that the rest of the cast is like, we got to get up there. We got to see what's going on.

Get the fuck out of my bathroom. You take her to. Get her the hell out of here too. She won't shut up. I love that. I love that everybody's like, I got to know what's going on. You've got Rosie commentating basically everything.

She's going to get into the thick of it based on what we see for the next couple of weeks as well. It just looks like such a well-rounded cast. And they all know so much about each other. And I don't want that to stop. I don't think it will because they all have these vaults of rumors that they've heard about the other women. apparently they're all coming out this season. Uh-huh. But let's get to some questions.

Uh, first up here from Jennifer 612S. Do you think next season will be about Rula leaving her husband? Uh, probably. I hope so. I, I, yeah, I hope so. Uh, from N. Brackmanman, first split slash divorce from the franchise. I bet it's going to be a wild card. Probably not what we have.

have teed up already joel it and gary i actually like gary so i hope not i do too uh if we're playing the uh the current setup rula and brian yeah rula and brian uh maybe although i don't know kelsey and her mystery man i think she loves that lifestyle i think she just wants to complain about it a bit um yeah i mean it's obviously brian and rula a second tier maybe Alicia and Bill I can see that yeah that kind of makes sense I like this one just because you

said the line M-Lo 1969 so we can all agree but he is my yeah great line yeah we can definitely say that all day yeah it's a great line

oh great question and always valid LA con what happened to the woman Alicia ran over we don't know I don't know. We should revisit that, though.

We should ask this every week, L.A. Con. From Mike Bros. Is Joellen the villain or the villain or is it Rula? I don't think either of them are. I think they keep trying to paint Jo Ellen as the villain. I think they're pushing her into a spot where she's going to have to have villainous activities. But I don't even think Joe Ellen wants to be the villain. I don't think any of them really want to.

No, I think they just all have like another side to him. wild card i'm going to say rosy is because i think rosy sees that role and she wants to do that like she wants to be in the mix and i think that she's not going to really give a shit who she really gets uh gets annoyed with but yeah i don't really see any of them as the villain right now yeah me neither i think that that's what you get with a well-rounded cast is you get two sides to each of them and they can all give it and they can all take it but i think for now no villain I think we will see somebody arise inevitably in the next, you know, could be this season, could be next season, could be season three.

Somebody will assume that role, but I think it's too early to pinpoint anybody. Yeah. From MEMs, based on Liz's reaction, do you think something did happen with her bestie guy? Yes. I mean, definitely. It's a very late she's in love with him. Yeah, I mean, I didn't until she started yelling at the point. party what her plan was.

I do one or two more. Oh, this is fun. Just because of the end of this question. From Trace Me, why do Rhode Island people sound like New Jersey people and the nanny? Non-American here. I don't know. We have no idea.

If you can't tell, we just kind of focus on that in the beginning of every episode. And then apparently I adopt a Jersey accent at some point while doing these recap. So it's happening to me. I don't know what's going on. This is good because there's still many choices. We'll end on this one because it's good. From John Crotelli, who's your favorite so far? Ooh.

It's a tough question. I think Joe Ellen's my favorite. I love Liz. Yeah. She's great. Joe Ellen or Liz, probably. But it's a very close depth chart right now. There's a lot.

nobody is doing poorly. The entire cast is doing very well. Yeah. Even poor Rula. Even poor Rula. Yeah, that's it for the questions. Well, excited to see next week. I get done this show and I immediately want to know what happened.

That's the mark of a great show. So I will see. See what happens with old Dino and the sea wall and the lack thereof. And maybe these ladies can stop outing themselves. I don't know. That would be great. Time will tell, but not confident. But that's all I got.

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