Bros & Shows - Chic AF- RHOBH S12E10+11

Episode Date: July 22, 2022

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And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros, your favorite show from the Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one, the only shooter Magouter.

Shoots, how we doing? Doing really well. You know, we had a short episode last week because I had an untimely vacation planned. Yeah, fuck you. Well, since you're asking, the vacation went really well. I spent some time with the family, played a little golf, laid in the lake, had a couple of drinks, played some games, you know, good quality family time. How'd you swing the sticks? Pretty well, actually.

Oh, yeah? Yeah, half my family, so. You know, feeling pretty good this year. It helps a sport, right? Yeah, I don't know. It wasn't listed on that list of sports to pick from. I got to double check with that TikTok user. Yeah, we'll let you know.

But I'm going to have to say it again. I've had to say it every single week for the past few weeks. I'm saying it again today. It was a crazy week. Once again, we had a lot of shit popping off. What I want to point out mainly is page de Sorbo not only follows. us on TikTok, but she commented on one of our videos on TikTok. But you got to wonder if she actually listened to a couple of the earlier episodes

when we were kind of shitting on her for her behavior in Summerhouse and then dreading her popping up in Southern Charm. I don't think so. I think she probably just saw that clip. I think it was the clip of you defending Craig. It was Craig V. Austin. Yeah.

So she probably loves me. Yeah. I mean, I was devil's advocate there. So she probably hates me. Yeah. But I'm fine with it, you know. If she's going to comment. and enjoy watching us as she showed in her comment,

then fuck yeah. We're back to Team Page. Yeah, we could definitely be swayed now back to Team Page. I'm not for the integrity of our listeners and for our integrity as journalists and podcasts. Don't what we are right now, journalists? We're reporting the news. All right.

But I'm not going to say I'm fully on board. I'm definitely open to it. And as we know, with Bravo, like there's ebbs and flows. There's people that I grow very fond of and then quickly turn. And there's people that I hate that I quickly turn into fans of. So I'll tell you one thing. The number one way to get back in our good graces is, wow, good graces is bribery. So she's on the right track.

Yeah. I mean, if you want to bribe us by following us on TikTok, commenting, if you want to slide us a little cash under a table, I'm game. You know, I'm open to all sorts of bribery. Yeah, exactly. We have our integrity until there are bribes involved. Hey, we're not cops. There's no law against this. Any Bravo Lebs listening, you can bribe us, and we will be on your team. Is Bravo Leb like you doing Robha? No, isn't that a thing?

I don't fucking know. It might be. Bravo Lebrides? It's a lot better than Robha. No, it's not. Brava is going to stick. We have listeners. I need you guys to back me up on this. I need to start hearing some Robhas out there. on top of that we had um tom sandoval on the most extras we got in contact with their manager slash drummer jason baiter we got some free tickets out of that we'll announce the winner to that at the end of the show um but just it's really cool that we're like we have contact with some actual bravo people like not in a million years that i think that that would happen

let alone have like thousands of listeners that tune in to like listen to me and you talk shit about Bravo. Yeah, it is pretty crazy. I mean, we've got like, what, 10,000 TikTok followers. We get a couple thousand people listen per episode to the two of us idiots just talk about Bravo. Yeah. It's pretty wild to hear that, but, you know.

I mean, thank you guys. We fucking love it. We really do. So enough chit chat. Let's get into some of the big news this week. We had a bombshell drop. We got one of our free agents from, Ultimate Girls Trip has re-signed. She's got a new contract. She's coming back to the main

franchise. Tamara Judge, welcome back to R-H-O-C. I don't have an acronym for that yet. That's fine. Yeah. I really do think that the way that, I mean, we kind of saw this. Like, the way that Ultimate Girl's Trip has been going, we called it from the beginning. Like, it looks like a bunch of free agents fighting for a new contract. And we weren't sure where the chips were going to fall. We were thinking, you know, Fager's doing so well. This is going to work out. I never really thought that Tamara did anything spectacular. She wasn't very interesting, at least up until this episode, the most recent episode is fine.

Like she did a lot more. She came out of her shell. Maybe this is the episode that solidified her new contract. But until this point, she really didn't do a whole lot except for like hold her shit together most of the episodes. So maybe that was enough to get her back. But she also wasn't smelling of desperation the whole time either. Like she was fairly true to her character as far as like,

just being there and being present and chiming in when necessary and kind of doing her own thing, but she was never, like, vying for camera time. She was just letting it happen organically, and I think that's a big part of it. I think that you look at some of the women like Jill Zeran, who, by the way, did you know that Jill Zeran is the one that announced Tamara was back on O.C. How'd she do that? She was on Instagram, like an Instagram, either live or an Instagram story, and she, She literally was, like, recapping something.

I was like, and Tamara's back on OC, and Vicki's not happy about it. Did Vicki want to get back to O.C.? Is that like... Vicki said that she wanted to be a friend of. Yeah, so she could still do that. It's not... I don't think there's full contracts for that. I think that's kind of like an open invite for...

If she gets the invite, of course. But I mean, yeah, I guess to your point, it's... You know, she wasn't the sloppy drunk, Durinda. She wasn't slurring her words everywhere and being an asshole. She also wasn't fully getting involved in all of the drama like Brandy and Taylor have been doing. So, yeah, I guess she kind of just went par for the course. I still think that Fager is probably also going to get a contract just because she's been around so much with Dubai and this. And everybody seems to love her.

Rightfully so, I mean, she's great. You know, maybe there's some like Eva droppings in there. I don't really see anybody else's like super interesting to get back, though. I didn't peg Tamara for getting re-signed. I, that was surprising to me. I don't think it's a bad idea, but I also wasn't expecting it. I was, my big three for this were Fadra, Eva, and Brandy. I thought they were going to all get contracts.

And I think that we might still see one or two of them. Yeah, if you had to pick two more, who would you go? I'm picking Fadra and Eva. You think, see, I don't think, because Eva's also Atlanta, I don't think they're going to do two for one show. Maybe they'll do one full-time and one friend of. Could be. I want them both back. I think they're so good.

Like, they're just enjoyable to watch. Like, if they just had their own fucking show, I'd probably watch it. Yeah, the fun answer to that is, obviously, Fager. The second fun answer is Brandy, the live grenade, just throw her back, see what happens. You have to. I think that... Brandy with, like, somebody like Sutton would be... It would be electric.

Yeah. Like, now you have the dynamic that we were... I think I was hoping for... for with Diana coming in because you have a new housewife, you don't know what to expect. You want shit to pop off and blow up and be kind of outlandish. That's Brandy. That's Brandy to a tea.

That's what she brings through the table. She might be too much, though. Like, she's good for a show like this because it's like, it's such a closed circuit with seven days of what, like, and it's crazy to watch how much they've grown in six days or four days. They've asked Marco. But, like, somebody like Brandi, you just,

she brings us so much to the table that maybe you don't want to. But if Beverly Hills is floundering, if Kyle doesn't come back, maybe you kind of have to. Yeah, if Kyle doesn't come back, then the door's open. Yeah. We got, Erica Jane's got some more trouble. So Nicholas Cage's ex-wife just came out and filed a lawsuit against her, claiming that she owes her $750,000 because Nick Cage's ex-wife was in a car accident in, like, 2016, and she sought representation by Gerardi and Keese,

and she claims that the settlement check was deposited into one of Gerardi's quote-unquote trusts or company accounts, and that she, one, never endorsed that check, and two, never saw any of the money. Yeah, I mean, I feel like you need somebody like, who do Leonardo Caprio play and catch me if you can? Oh, Frank Abagnale. There you go.

I think you need somebody like that to trace the money in this, case because it's all over the fucking place. Like, what she's claiming is that, and the reason that I think she's going after Erica directly is because she probably went to the Girardi firm first and was either denied or pushed aside or couldn't reach a settlement that she was happy with. So she decided to go elsewhere, where there's a lot of, you know, talks about them funneling money from the firm into Erica's sole proprietary to get Erica money and then also have a tax right off. So there's like, there's money moving all over the place. It's really hard to keep

track of it. And for somebody like this, like an outsider, to hone in on that and be like, oh, I saw Erica's company's tax returns in 2011, 2013. So I know that timing also doesn't add up. Because if the accident was in 2016 and you're citing tax returns from 2011, 2013, how does that make any sense? Like just because you know that or you think that the money's being funneled into her. It doesn't mean that your $750,000 went that way. You're just grasping at straws. I don't think anything's going to come of it.

I think that Eric has probably already got a huge pile of civil lawsuits. So I can't imagine this one's really going to crack the surface anymore. Yeah, no, it probably won't. But maybe they'll get like a little settlement. Maybe that's what they're after. You know, like 200K, like here, go away. You know, if anyone needs that money, it's probably Nick Cage anyway. Yeah, I mean, he, the way that he spends his money is,

fucking nuts. He bought a castle in Scotland, had it renovated for like 50 million dollars because it was completely unlivable. And he doesn't really want to live there. He just wants to put things there. That's kind of his MO. He once bought a T-Rex fossil and tried to get like, couldn't get it back to the U.S. because of like immigration or immigration. Yeah. That would be bad. T-Rex is in the United States. We can't have that. Immigration laws. He was a French designer and He couldn't get past the immigration. We all have our trials and errors during the day. You know what I mean.

He couldn't get the T-Rex fossil back to the States because of import laws. So he bought it and now it should, I don't know where it's sitting. But if you don't know about Nick Cage and you want to go do a deep dive, the guy is fucking fascinating. He's pure entertainment. But that takes us into our last little snippet here that I was saving because you didn't hear about the news from Southern Charm. I asked you before we started recording. No, I wanted to save this for an organic reaction. Bring it.

All right. So, Shep and Taylor are dunzo. They're kaput. Shep, or I'm sorry, Taylor came out and said, they're over because he couldn't commit. So she's done. Shocker. It's not shocking, but it's exciting. I know this is probably not like the reaction that you wanted for me. you were gearing this up to be like huge because it's fucking excited the writing's on the wall i mean

knew this and like we can kind of use this to kind of springboard into the southern charm review i mean the way that he is with her and the way that he was treating her and really only thinking about himself of course this was coming i'm happy it was coming if that is any that's not really i'm not going to lie your reaction kind of sucks well you know what look i'm happy for taylor i think she's nice i'm bummed that she's no longer going to be on the show unless they keep her for some reason. I can't say that they will. But I thought that she was bringing a little more level-headedness,

a little more character to the show, and kind of shining a light on how ridiculous Shep is in his boy life. Yeah, she actually really called attention to it, which I was surprised about because my initial, my first impression, I guess, you could say, of her that I remember, was the morning after Shep's party when he was spreading all those rumors or whatever. and she's like cleaning up a little bit at his house and goes in to try to like wake him up and it was just a very like oh come on chap let's go with bloody marries blah blah blah and i was like oh man like you're just playing into this whole like manchild thing like get him the fuck up and like go do some productive shit don't drink bloodies in the kitchen on what i'm presuming is like a tuesday but yeah it's always a tuesday in chef's life yeah honestly but come to find out like she's actually got a pretty good head on her shoulders like the last two episodes like the last two episodes

we've seen her talk with chef's cousin and then this one you know she's sitting there explaining to him like you know you've never asked me about how I felt because they had that little pregnancy scare and they're talking about how the tables are barren which I thought was a weird thing to say to begin with but she then goes yeah as barren as my ovaries and he's like oh like it was just a scare like we dodged a bullet it's like high five like she is concerned that she is barren She was clearly, like, a little excited about the prospect of having a child. I don't know if she wants a kid now or if it was more, like, hopefully this will push Shep to, like, grow the fuck up.

But either way, like, she's upset. Not one time did he ask her, like, are you okay? Like, are you handling this all right? Like, are you upset? He's only concerned about himself and how he feels in the matter. And it goes to, like, a confessional. And he's like, I just shoot me right between the eyes and see what? happens like are you fucking serious guy like yeah and i i mean to your point like i think that is

kind of what like maybe you know taylor's talking to chef's cousin about yeah i do want to have the family i'd like to do this i'd like to do that and maybe that little that brief hope that like all right maybe i am pregnant was her thinking i can finally lock shepp into commitment finally and if this doesn't work then i don't know what the hell's going to work clearly that didn't work out. They broke up. Great for her. Shep's going to continue to do Shep. What is he? Forty-two, still living his life, rolling out of bed, having Bloody Mary's going to the bar. I think he's probably honestly thrilled that she broke up with him. Probably because he doesn't have to worry about commitment. He can get into another semi-serious relationship and then break

that one off too. And that's just probably going to be the rest of Shep's life. But during that dinner scene was like, it was tough because I'm a person that deflects things with humor. Like, I'm, you know, something serious happens or something traumatizing. Like, I'm going to diffuse situations with humor all the time. Are you diffusing or deflecting? Both. Depends. If it's me, if it's directed at me and I'm the one who's upset, I'm going to deflect.

But if it's somebody else, I'm going to diffuse the situation with a little light humor. We continue to dive into the psyche that is shooter. Yeah. I mean, what are we, 11 episodes in here? So you guys are really getting a good round look at how my mind works. Yeah, deflection, deflection, deflection. Yeah, of course. But that's not what Shep's doing.

Shep is only thinking about himself in this moment. And every fucking moment is all about Shep. So when this happens, he doesn't even stop to think like, oh, shit. Like, did Taylor want? Like, he doesn't even ask the question. He's still just like, thank God, right? And like, that's it. Dodged a bullet, man.

Like, I can't. And I'm just so good for you, Taylor. Way to get the fuck out of there. You're way better than that guy. And then the next scene was Catherine and Olivia eating sushi and nothing really interesting happened. But I do want to ask you one thing. When you get like fried shrimp from a sushi spot, what do you call it?

Because I thought the way that the waiter said it was funny. But then I was like, is that how you actually say it? What did the waiter say? Like tempura. Shrimp tempera. I thought that they all kind of said it weird. How do you say tempera? Tempura.

No, tempura. You say tempura? Yeah. Okay, that's what he said. I thought it was tempura. It probably is. I thought they all kind of said it different. the waiter said tempura and then I thought that Catherine said tempura and then they kind of said it like back and forth and I got mind fucked I didn't know what was going on it's one of those words that I think I say differently like every time I say it because I'm not sure and I don't want to be that guy that says it wrong I'd love to see a I definitely have a list of words that I say completely wrong but completely different every time yeah no me too because I'm not entirely sure so I just kind of like throw it out there and cross my fingers that no one says it's not I

tempura it's tempera yeah then you just have to leave the restaurant you got to pack your bags get the fuck out of your body no thanks I don't want any food anymore we finally get to kind of dive into how my man schleb is feeling um he's over with chelsea and they're talking about katherine and it just cracks me up because her qualms with him she says this in her dinner is like you know, I opened up to him. He wouldn't know about to me. Like, he's not telling me anything. And first of all, for her to claim that she was opening up to him that night is crazy because he was trying to talk. And she was, her response was literally, are you kidding me? Well, yes, it was. I don't really think that he was trying to talk, though. I think that he just kept saying like, he said, let's talk about it. Well, he said, I love you and I want to be here. But he didn't like, when she brought up certain points about, well, I guess he did actually. Because when she brought up like her kids and he was like, look, like, Like, maybe that's like a little much for me. Like, he was kind of opening up, but in the scene with Chelsea, Chelsea is one heavy pour. Heavy, but I wrote, I wrote in my notes, sad drinking.

Yeah, no, it really was sad drinking. And Caleb's like, you know, I'm a former athlete. I don't really know how to open up to my feelings, which like part of it I get. I don't know. I think it's just like emotionally maturing. But he doesn't do well in those situations, which, like, you just learn. make facial expressions to illustrate how he's feeling and what the fuck is this is this like a second grader diagram with a smiley faces and like show a sad face like is that what the fuck what what

what were you doing in second grade i don't know being sad about stuff i guess but like maybe i and the problem with the whole thing is if he's trying to learn how to show his emotions more you know who he shouldn't fucking be with katherine no god she like she she she was will push you down if you try to and then tell you that you don't try. She's an emotional terrorist. Yeah. She's going to push, pull him. That's that like borderline personality.

Like she's going to push him and pull him. Well, I do. Maybe this is a bomb for you, but they're not together anymore. I think I'd heard that. Yeah. I'm glad. I wonder how Shleb's mom feels about that. Probably took Catherine's hide.

She doesn't talk to Caleb anymore. Yeah. She probably, he's living with Chelsea probably. she's not talking to Chelsea either the whole side of the family is just pushed away because Catherine's... Honestly, like her M.O.

That would probably be the least surprising news ever. Like her causing a giant rift in a family that she's no longer really involved in. Yeah. I mean, that's Naomi accused her of that the first episode. Oh, fuck. That's right. You destroyed a whole family.

Wow. See? Here we go. That's what she does. Hot take. Check it. We did get to see the boys golfing Love that scene. By the way, they both have decent strokes. Sports, I wouldn't say that, but all right. You didn't think that they, like, I was pleasantly surprised by their swings.

I thought Craig was actually pretty good. I didn't think Austin's was terrible. I was expecting much worse. A lot of ground coming up, a lot of chunks. All right. He even said it. He was like, when was the last time you played golf? And I'm like, aren't you guys, you guys are like at a country club?

Like, absolutely at a country club. Oh, for sure. Picked up beers to go to the range. Definitely a country club. You don't ever golf. Like, what are you guys, like, Craig's hand. stitching pillows painstakingly. Like, what else do you...

If I lived in Charleston, I'd be... Craig golfed. He said that he golfed like a few days prior with Shep. Oh, man, I'd love to see Shep swing. It's probably phenomenal because he spent all his time doing golf lessons and not working. He's probably got a great swing. Speaking of lessons, Austin gets texting lessons from Craig.

I thought that was hysterical. Yeah, I mean, it's, it is funny because, like, we know that eventually whatever's going on with them boils over to a wrestling match. I've heard... I've heard speculation that that was like a play fight. Like they're drunk and like horsing around. Ah, that would really suck because it kind of seems,

I mean, it does kind of seem like they're repairing the relationship, which is good. I'd rather see the two of them as friends and try to, you know, grow up together as we've talked about. But, yeah,

I mean, Austin's texting Olivia about like day drinking the next day, which, I mean, you're like 38, like 39? Yeah, like,

we're dayloading tomorrow. Can't sell your schedule. We're day drinking tomorrow. We got a dardy. tomorrow. Like, if someone texted me clear your schedule or partying tomorrow, like, that sounds exhausting and no thank you, sir. It is 96 degrees out.

We are in a heat wave and I will be in the air conditioning at work where I don't have to pay for it. But I did like the back and forth about like the text. Like how do you intro? Are you a hay with two WIs, three Wies or one Y? You used to text me hey in high school and I fucking hated it. Yeah, it was great. But, like, yeah, I mean, if I'm talking to my girlfriend, still one Y.

Like, I don't know. The double Y thing was like, there was a graph at one point, which I'm going back to my fucking graphs, but there was a graph that showed like how many whys are acceptable. And it's like the first Y is like short, like something's wrong. Two Wies, happy. Three Wies, flirty. Four or five Ys, drunk. So, I mean, I guess it checks out because he sent like four fucking Ys on his hay.

And it was about day drink. and they were drinking so it was weird and then Craig's talking about punctuation and he's just trying to figure out and we're not really sure what the hell is going on in their relationship but they're still together while we're on this topic um but you kind of see like last week he's talking about Netflix and chill this week he's talking about day drinking he's also clearing your schedule well he's also referencing like yeah I'm going to talk to her about like my expectations which are seemingly not high and then he's like and then I'm going to get out of town and turn my phone off because he's not maybe not the authority on this because of how him and page

got together that was the most odd casual not so casual type of thing where they're talking about like first couple of weeks yeah we're talking we hook up when you're around but like we can still talk to other people right and they're both like cool with it air quotes and then they're not really cool with it but they're still showing it so like Craig's not the person to talk to about this Not at all. I know that you want to repair your relationship with Craig. And like the easiest way to do that is, hey, man, help me out with this girl. Because nothing makes you feel more empowered as a friend, as a guy friend,

and be like, dude, I need some help. I know how to talk to you. Hey, bro. I know you're good with the ladies. Help me out with my text message. It's flattering and it also makes you feel important. So it works out. The main portion of this episode was a joint party for Vanita and Madison.

I think it's a birthday party, but I was later confused because it seemed to be an engagement party. I think you and Vanita both. Yeah, I felt bad for Vanita. There was one point she was standing like to the side. Like, all right, let's take pictures over here. And she's like kind of vogueing by herself. And no one's paying attention to her. She's alone.

I was like, man, like this is her birthday party. I think she was the one that initially like planned the party. Yeah, she did. She was the one who planned the lunch with Madison the week before. and, I mean, you want to talk about an emotional terrorist. Madison checks all the boxes for that. A different level. She was all, she was a fucking absolute monster with this, like inviting Olivia and Catherine behind Vanita's back.

After they had already finalized the invite list. Yep. And then also, she knew, like, you get engaged. I'm not saying that, like, her engagement was planned around her birthday or anything. Maybe our boy Brett from Scottsdale, Arizona. Which, by the way, real housewives of Scottsdale, maybe Brett will get involved there. Madison moves out there. Let's fucking go.

Wow, callback to those three fake housewife franchises. I mean, we're going to be on the team to go out there and scout. But when everybody shows up and Madison just got engaged, what, like a week, I mean, the timeframes are always skewed. But like, she got engaged pretty recently. It's the first time that she's seeing a lot of these people. Everything that they say, it's like, oh, right, it's also Vanita's birthday. Today is Vanita's birthday. No, no, no, it was the next day.

It was the next day. Well, Madison was like a week from now or something. Yeah, it wasn't even that close. And regardless, like, when you have a joint birthday party, like, take it upon yourself in those moments to, like, be like, yeah, I know, it's, it's a beautiful ring. Thank you. But happy birthday, Vanita. Like, turn it back to your friend and, like, help out a little bit.

Don't, like, she's such an attention hound. And, like, I genuinely felt for. Benita and I just wanted her to like have a good time but we get Patricia comes up with her pussy dress as she calls it God I mean the scene know where my head went when she said pussy dress yeah like I couldn't I was trying to picture what the fuck that meant I was like is it like remember those vagina hats oh yeah was it like a vagina hat dress or was it one that like maybe it's a little short so she calls it her pussy hair dress? No, it's a cat dress. So she comes strolling in a cat dress and that's probably where

my mind should have went because she's a Southern Bell. Well, I think on Watch What Happens Live, they were talking about Sutton's fashion. Andy asked her about her couture pussy bow and the guy from the hippie. Oh yeah, yeah. He was like, oh yeah, I like that dress. Like, oh, Jesus, dude. Settle down, buddy. When's the next dead concert? You got to get the hell out of here. Yeah, settle down, pal. But, yeah, I mean, I don't know.

With Patricia and Whitney, you get the scene with them walking around the house. Oh, I hate it. Once again, we talk about Michael, the butler, the poor guy. My bar has just been a mess, and nobody can make a drink quite like Michael. She did say I miss him at least this time, but like, then Whitney's, like, trying to clean up, but then he just stops. And they're just like, what do you do it? dude he's got that stupid fucking look where you tuck in your shirt into your belt like you're

trying to be stylish like your johnny fucking deb or something and he just looks sloppy well i tried to look at it like it was like i tried to look at it positively this week why i don't know i just i don't want to be upset all the time when they're on the camera so like i was looking at like all right people enjoy their banter people like what they're doing maybe i can try that for a change yeah we have called out for not enjoying it by the way yeah well i don't know We can enjoy everything, but I just downright could not enjoy it. I'm like, all right, enough. I don't care.

Like, just move on. Yeah, and the good thing is those scenes end fairly quickly. Like, it's in and out. But back to the birthday party, there's a lot of tension, all right? Like, there's a lot of unresolved issues within the group. You got Naomi and Vanita, they're shit with Catherine. I mean, I guess it's all Catherine-centric, which is not surprising. It is.

And I think Olivia gets. an unfair shake with this because I mean Catherine was like the first person to kind of like welcome her in and be friends with her so I wonder why well yeah I guess she probably spurned everybody else but Olivia catching these strays just because she's friends with Catherine like people are going to be friends with whoever they're going to be friends with it doesn't mean that she's responsible for the shit that Catherine does and says so leave her out of this like well to to Naomi's credit she pulls her aside pretty quickly and squashes that bug I thought that was fine. I didn't think

Olivia bought it. I thought she was still very skeptical. I think she should be skeptical. I agree. But to Naomi's credit she's like, let's just get this out of the way and she does that. Bang. I thought it was genuine as a third party. Well, I didn't ask. Let my opinions fly.

When they get to the table, Leva brings it up because Patricia gives this whole speech about a clean slate. like let's start from scratch whatever i've never had a clean slate in my life she claims but now's the moment i guess and to leva's credit i love the people in the group that we'll call out like yo there's some shit that we need to sort out let's sort it out right now and so she brings it up we want clean slates let's clean these slates then we got issues let's

solve them vanita comes out of the gate vina pointed at the two of them yeah huh Leva just kind of motioned towards everybody. She's like, we've got some issues. You know, we've got to clean some slates here. And Vanita's just like eyeball on them. Like, boom, these two right here. Oh.

Again, Olivia catching astray. What did, what Olivia did was talk to Naomi, which was a very fair question about, well, then why did you come to Catherine's party if you knew you were going to have a bad time? You don't want to be here, whatever. That was fair. Vanita got on her, ganged up on her,

then apologized and then two weeks later about that drama yeah and then two weeks later what it's because it's your birthday you get to bring the drama back up like no no when you squash it unless something else happens i think what's happening is vina's not directing her anger back at madison for inviting the two of them she's directing it at the two of them for showing up yeah like they were invited like go to madison like and madison's over there slight smirk uh she knows what's going on. She set it up. Yep. So I think she knew that was going to happen. And I mean, look, like, Olivia shouldn't have been catching that. She kind of kept herself relatively composed. You know, she talked to Naomi. She's like, we figured this out. And then Catherine just went to

fuck off. Yeah. She told Naomi to shut the fuck up. Her opinion doesn't matter. She doesn't matter. Like, I don't care for you whatsoever in any way, shape, or form. Which is funny to me, because their interactions, and I haven't seen a lot of Southern Charms, so I don't know what their past interactions have been. I'm assuming not great. But the worst interaction of the day was Benita and Catherine when they're standing there before they sit down and she pretty much questions Catherine's parenting, like flat out.

Leave the kids out of it. Leave the kids out of it. I mean, they were valid questions that she was asking. like they had merit but if you claim to not be about drama and this is your birthday party and you want to keep the peace and you want everyone to Kiki and have a good time

that's very pointed like is this what you're teaching your children like I think the moment Veneto realized the Madison invited the two of them all bets were off I agree I think that she kind of took the gloves off I would love if it like came to an end

and it zoomed in on Madison's face and she just got like a grin like hmm like yeah evil smirking yeah exactly where she just and then it just fades to black and that takes us right into ultimate girls trip my arguably favorite bravo show for the time being i've i've really enjoyed this whole season i'm not going to lie but it's the morning after a bluestone manor after derinda went off the rails once again and like the ladies are all kind of talking about it and saying that she keeps getting away with it she just comes down and apologizes the next day and I agree and like this has kind of been Derinda's M.O. forever like she loses her fucking mind at night she gets too drunk she turns into slurinda

and just starts saying horrible things that you can't really take back but the next day she always goes up to the person immediately and like shoulder touch I love you I'm sorry And then acts like nothing happened. And even in that moment where she's apologizing, quote, unquote, apologizing to Brandy, she's like, I love you. I'm sorry. And Brandy's like, well, you can't just say shit like that. It's fucked up.

That's my kid. She's like, I know that's why I apologized. She said I used the wrong reference. Yeah. Which is wild. I should have said if somebody close to you died. Yeah. Like, no.

Just apologize. Don't specify what you said and what you should have said. No, no. Like your cousin. Like if your cousin. had died. Yeah, your dad died. Hey, what do you want?

Don't be so sensitive. It's, it is important to note two things. The show did start off with Marco. Oh, yeah, I can't believe I forgot that. You know, Marco Confessional, him talking about it and he's like, you know, it's been a, it's been a wild couple of days. I don't even know what day it is. What is it?

Like day four? Flashes on my screen day six. Day six. He has no idea what's going on. He's still in a trance. I just love that scene because it felt like if one of us were in. implanted into this show, like that would have been our confessional. Like, I don't know what the fuck's going on. I don't know why there's so much drama. They're so quick to get over it.

Stop asking me specific questions. And I don't know what day it is. Go back and watch the tape. I have no idea what happened. I have to decompress for a couple of weeks after this one. Oh, my God. He's going to go to like a retreat, like a Buddhist retreat and like try to regain center. He's going to have to. But yeah, between that and what you said about Dorinda, like the way that, she's handling this and just going off the fucking rails, slurring all over the place. We saw that some unseen footage from last week, she was in the car while Vicky was on social media about to wish Steve, her ex's daughter, a happy birthday. It was like her second birthday or whatever.

Dorinda's like, oh, no, no, no, don't do that. And then just starts like kind of slurring off. And Vicki's like, well, what the fuck? And she, and Dorenda just goes off the rails, you need disconnect, blah, blah, blah, all this. And Vicki's just like, leave me alone. Like, let me do what I'm going to do. do. I don't need you in the backseat slurring to tell me what to do. And Durinda just uses the fact that this is her house to her advantage. It's like her protection. She leans on that crutch

constantly. Yeah. And like nobody's going to, nobody's really going to pick a fight back with me because they're staying at my house. I'm the Lord of the Manor. Like, no. I think as nice as Bluestone Manor has been, and I guess, you know, seemingly we get some sort of reconciliation at the end. I think it was a bad mistake by Bravo. Yeah, it was a terrible choice. Giving Durinda that power. Because we saw that coming right away. We're like, oh, that's not good.

Well, I, no, I told you. I enjoyed the first one. I was like, oh, wow, she's like the narrator. That's kind of fun. And then she just like gets power crazy and just goes off the rails. And it was really annoying. And what was nice about this episode is that she gets checked. And not only that, like, she takes it in stride and like listens.

Now, do I think that that was a move? 1,000%. Do I think that she saw the writing on the wall? And when Brandy was like, you know, they want season one, season two, Derinda, and the way you're acting, you're going to be on pause forever. I don't think she had, like,

a come to Jesus revelation moment in that moment. I think that that was more her realizing, like, oh, fuck, I'm not doing as well as maybe I thought I was, and I need to change my tactics. Yeah. And I fully agree with that. And we do see, like, I think Durinda drank less that day.

It was kind of funny because in the morning, they were all kind of having this like woo-sah moment about like, no fighting today. We're not going to do anything. And then immediately, let's fight about the night before. And they just start yelling at each other and going back and forth. I'm like, that's so fucking funny.

And then they stop and they're like, all right, we'll just ease off on the drinking today. And Fager comes in like, we're going to a winery today. Saddle up. Right away. And everyone's like, wait, you don't even drink wine. She's like, yeah, I just thought it would be fun to go to a winery. It seems like the good thing to do.

But I had faith from the jump because Fadra says, like, today, we're going to keep it peaceful. Everything's going to be copacetic. And if there's one person I trust to keep the peace, it's my girl Fadra. And she did that successfully. They get to the vineyard. They're doing the tasting. She opens with a prayer. I thought that was lovely.

And they're all kind of vibing. Like there's no tenseness at the table at least. No, and they are, like, still drinking excessively. You see Eva jump on the back of Brandy and Brandy immediately falls over and they're all laughing and having a good time. The one person who wasn't really having a good time, Vicky, because right before she was sitting in bed talking about we're all going to die someday. I forgot about that. Which she's done before on the show, like, well before this. I hear she has an obsession with, like, death.

Well, I don't know what the hell is going on with her, but she, like, actually started breaking down and crying because she's like, we're all going to die someday and everyone's like what the fuck vicky and she's going to like she goes and i'm going to die sad like write that on my tombstone i think she said that like when i die i hope everybody knows i died sad yeah it's like oh my god morbid as hell for somebody who's having like way more fun and it's like noticeable to see her coming out of her shell a little bit she's not as guarded she's not maybe she's not fully out of her shell but she's not getting mad when people say things to her she's just kind of like taking it and stride that's nice to see hunch is better, but I don't know.

She's still not doing it for me, and I don't, I think that's why we're not going to see a resurgence of Vicky, but I did think that she was a good sport this episode, like after the vineyard, you know, they go outside and there's actually a nice moment between Vicky and Dorenda, whether it was genuine from Dorenda side or not. I do genuinely think that when Dorenda has those heart to hearts, like, in that moment, she is being genuine. I don't think that holds true once she leaves the conversation. I think she's like, I do feel this way right now.

And as soon as I walk away and I have a bad thought about you, everything I just said goes out the window and go fuck yourself. Like, that's how I think her brain operates. But in that moment, she kind of just says, like, I didn't know you were so vulnerable. I didn't know that you were, I just thought you were like this big, tough, like successful, strong business woman. And like, that's my fault.

and I'm sorry and Vicky accepts the apology says that was hard for you which I thought was like slightly condescending which is funny but they kind of make up like everybody at this point the only question mark really is Taylor and Brandy like you don't know if they're going to be cool or not because they've been at each other's throat the whole fucking time yeah and I felt like this episode had a couple of components that felt way more like a housewife show like there were a couple of scenes like that scene that you just talked about but it actually felt like an organic housewife moment, which the rest of this has just been fucking chaos. It's been mayhem and I loved it.

I loved pretty much every second of it for the most part. Well, it is kind of wild that, yeah, we're watching this unfold week to week and we're at like week six of this. And we talked about this all the time with the housewife shows. We never know what the timeline is. This one, we know what the timeline is. It's in September. If you compare them from day six to day one, it's crazy.

Like a before and after. It's unbelievable. They're like completely different people. They're all kind of copesthetic. Obviously day five ended tumultuously. And now we're sitting here day six and everybody's singing kumbaya and having a great time. And I mean, it's nice to see. But when you put it in context like that, it's crazy that these people have changed that much and grown that much in five days.

they really had the one person that I think has actually stayed true to form all the way through has been Brandy and I don't think she's changed I think she's the exact same as she was episode one she's just not I thought that she was toning it down a little bit and then we get all the vagina talk all the she wanted to go down on vicky and vicky wasn't having it she wanted to give vicky a lap dance and vicky says I'm a professional I am a professional you which Apparently they can't get lap dances. I don't know. She's a business woman.

But the biggest news I got out of this episode is one, arguably vindication for Brandy. And two, confirmation that Denise might have fooled around a little bit. She was definitely fooling around. Brandy, you know, there's that whole rumor that Brandy and Denise hooked up. That's been going on for a long time. Tamara, and maybe this is why Tamry. cameras back just because she dropped this bombshell she's like I side with brandy and here's why like there was a moment at bravo con where Denise I guess was kind of coming on to her kept trying to invite

her back to her room and then the next day I guess she was like texting her a lot like reaching out I think trying to gauge like hey did I overstep or hey are you going to tell anybody about this like hey keep this under wraps yeah and we do get the funny scene with Bravo editing in sources as close to Denise dispute this, which was like very playful. Bravo knows exactly what they're doing. They're not actually defending Denise. They just think that we're going to find that funny, which we did. It was great.

That was solid editing. Yeah. And there was what I kind of thought was, I mean, this was before, I guess, Tamara actually went off and talked about her story with Denise. She was asked, who did she believe? And she said, Denise. And everyone's like, oh, wait, really? And Brandy's like, what the fuck?

Yeah, she got pissed. And then she goes, wait, what did I say? I meant Brandy. I'm like, ooh, Freudian slip there. I don't know. But then Tamara came out and said, this is what happened. Yeah, she backed it up. To your point, yeah, I mean, maybe her dropping that bomb, her being a little more central to everything this episode.

Maybe she comes back a little bit more next episode. Maybe that's enough to get her back to O.C. Hey, you know, it's not how you start. It's how you finish. That's what they say. Tamara, big finish. But. But yeah, and then it just got, I don't even want to call it uncomfortable.

sexual because I thought that the first two episodes were those were uncomfortably sexual because everybody's so tense and like we don't know what's going to happen they start getting drunk brandy's just brandy the whole time yep what we have now is everybody understands that this is brandy and they're opening up themselves brandy's still the same person they're just fully open now so we get lap dances we get her and taylor making out after being at each other's throats for five days And then I thought the funniest part was Vicky went right for the one gift And she goes, I need this

And it was a vibrator And she's like Not self-deprecating But like making fun of herself a little bit Because she's been so adamant like against all of the sexual talk I know I was proud of her I'm like good for you Vicki

Like actually opening up And then of course Everybody made her feel uncomfortable Yeah instantly But it was funny like the roundtable discussion about Who would you fuck out of these Who'd you boink?

Who would you boink? Yeah, we're gentlemen. Who would you boink in the group? And Jill was livid because nobody picked her. And I kind of felt bad for it. Well, nobody picked Taylor either. Yeah, but Taylor didn't have a re- I thought somebody said that they would.

Well, Brandy's been on. Vennie. And I also don't think Vicky would give a fuck. No. But she was happy to be left out. Yeah, but Jill was like upset to the point where she kind of like shut down for the rest of the night. I thought that was too strong, but I understand being upset. Like,

if, like, me, you and the boys were hanging out, like, this comment came up, like, you'd be a little upset if nobody wanted to blank you. Yeah, of course. So, I mean, I get it a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, I'd burn the place down. Jesus Christ. And that takes us to the meat and potatoes,

baby, the Robha, the Beverly Hills. And we've got two episodes this week. We're going to kind of picked through the first one a little bit, and then we're going to dive into the second one. But last week's episode, we finally got to see the apology that I thought we were going to get the week prior to that. But we get to see Erica apologize to Garcel and seemingly the entire group, like everyone's involved. And I thought actually that the apology was good.

I thought that she was genuine. She addressed everything. Like, you know, I treated them like they were adults. They are not. that is my mistake, I was wrong, period. Well, Oliver is an adult. Oliver is an adult, yeah, but she was treating, when you tell a 14-year-old to get the fuck out, like, that's problematic.

But I thought that the highlight of that is when Kyle tries to, like, jump in. Like, I think that we, like, give her a little grace. It's been, like, two times in whatever. And then Garcel is just like, there you go jumping ship. Like, here we go again. Like, Kyle, stay the fuck out of this. It's between me and her. We're cool now.

Erica, apologize to me. I'm going to say my piece because you don't talk about my kids like that. And then we're moving on from it. Like, you don't need to interject here. And, like, that flashes then to, like, their lunch later where they're talking about Erica's drinking and her meds. And to Kyle's point, I think it is dumb for Erica to use the word meds because it paints like a different picture of what she's taking.

But they're talking about, like, is she an alcoholic or whatever? And, like, I mean, are there some red flags? Sure. Is it problematic to accuse somebody of being an alcoholic and putting that out there if they're not an alcoholic? Sure. Is it something to keep an eye on? Yes. Yeah. And the way that Kyle phrased it both times was, you know, it's really nice to see Erica let her hair down and have some fun. And everybody keeps doing it. We saw it and watch what happens live. Andy's like, do you feel like it's nice to see Erica let her hair down and have some fun? from Dubai. And Lisa's like, yeah, yeah, I mean, it is kind of nice, but like, you don't do that to somebody's kids. Right. It's the whole problem, and, I mean, it just keeps repeating itself.

At first, I just thought, all right, you know what, Kyle's just pining for Diana's love for multiple reasons. But now she's also coming to Erica's aid and just completely tone deaf, just stay out of it. Like, these solutions, and we see it later in the episode, the solutions between the two women, whoever it is that's in a fight always works better when everybody's there and they air it out because you get a couple different opinions

you get people backing you up people backing the other person up people shining a light on a different perspective and that's all they were doing Kyle you're not being helpful no she wasn't doing anything and that's kind of her M.O. now

is like she interjects into situations where she's not needed not necessary and she doesn't do anything to further the conversation to get to some kind of resolution faster she arguably makes it worse and that like something happened tonight that we'll get to eventually but like it's just a bummer man it's it's it's i'm seeing it more and more with her and it continues to break my heart there's like a little piece of me that's still holding on to hope and i she keeps falling short and it's upsetting

but i'm sure you're not alone with that i mean there's no there's enough out there where people are like I don't understand why people are hating on Kyle and like you can you can do both you can still be a Kyle stand you can still say she means well in some aspect and also point out that she's doing something shitty so it's like both can be true but you really need to show that Kyle's doing dumb things and backing the wrong person constantly this year mainly because of Diana and that goes directly to our like kind of the climax of this episode was the lunch between Sutton and Diana. Which, again, I don't understand why.

And this is probably just, I think Sutton set it up. Like, there's no chance in how the Diana reached out to Sutton and said, hey, we need to get lunch. I think the producers set it up. You think so? I could see Sutton doing it because Sutton, so many things go over her head that she doesn't realize. Like, she thought that the end of Garcell's party, they were cool.

She thought that that hug was genuine. This is when I struggle with Sutton because it's like, dude, in what world was a that a real hug? She was laughing in your shoulder, like rolling, you couldn't feel her roll her eyes in your shoulder? No, I really do think that like Sutton just doesn't pay, like maybe not pay attention. I think that she just doesn't read situation. She doesn't pick up on social cues. No, never. And whatever the hell is going through her mind during that situation is, whatever. But I could easily see Sutton reaching out to Diana and saying, hey, do you want to get some lunch and we'll talk about this? And Diana says, I don't really want to, but the producers say I have to.

So she goes and it's so awkward just from the jump and they're sitting down and like you can tell Diana wants nothing to do with rectifying the situation. For somebody that's quote unquote this like super upper class woman, she is fucking classless as hell. Like sit down and give this woman the time of day. You are adults. She is trying to talk to you to come to some kind of terms that you guys are at least. like sociable around each other and you can't even listen to what she's saying without rolling your eyes making a public scene

making a public mockery of this woman it doesn't make you tough it doesn't make you witty it makes you look stupid and it makes you look immature and like my skin was crawling watching this shit I was like Sutton stop explaining yourself get up and fucking leave which she did eventually but like the whole time

you could kind of see, like, the way that Sutton's mind was working. She started at one point. She was just like, I thought we were cool. Maybe we're not. So that's where she started. She was like, are we missing something here? Yes, clearly. Okay, let's downgrade it a little bit more.

Can we still be friends? Clearly not. Okay. Can we be in the same room together? Diana can't even give her that. Like, first off, you're on the fucking show together. You're going to be in the same room together. It's going to be tiring as hell if you're going to hold this grudge forever.

over something that was absolutely a miscommunication, I do think that Sutton went into the Garcelf thing with ill intentions. Like, I'm going to call her out on this. I think that she was going to call her out, but I think that the way that Diana's portraying, like, how the fuck it went down is not what happened at all. It's all wrong. It's entirely wrong.

And she's gaslighting and she's making false claims and she's trying to paint this horrible picture of Sutton. It's like, no, she did call you out about why, you aren't on bed rest, period. After that, what she was saying was genuine. And Diane, at the dinner's like, nothing you say is genuine, nothing you do is genuine, the fakes person in the world. I don't believe anything you say. I don't like you. I don't want to be in the same, like, vicinity as you. Like, she's just so mean and not in a fun housewife's way in like a bitchy teenager, like immature. And again, just fucking classless. Like she, for someone that preaches class and wealth and

all of this stupid shit she has none well and the other problem is the other housewives aside from garcel and i mean now you get shirie in the mix too and she's helping out i like shir i like shri a lot i think she brings a lot to the table i think she brings a lot of level-headedness and like unbiased opinions to the table whereas like all right you know sutton Kyle Dorit you're sitting down with her asking her how the lunch went and Sutton's talking about her two miscarriages and she's like I was just trying to relate to her and let her know like I've been through it like I get it are you okay are like what's going on like are you mad at me like what's the hell takes diana side of course she fucking does because she's just as bad as Kyle she just sits there and

she's like well what else like she doesn't even say I didn't know that you had two miscarriages like I'm so sorry and that's kind of what I get from Sutton and Sutton brings this up and not once do any of the other housewives say, I'm so sorry, Sutton. Like, I had no idea. Like, I get that. You were just trying to relate to her. No one fucking says that. They're always like, well, Diana felt like this.

Like, fuck Diana. I don't give a shit with Diana. But they all want to be tight with her fucking money, dude. That's what it's all about. They want, they know that she is like an it girl or it woman in Hollywood. Yeah. And they want to be in that umbrella. And it's annoying as shit because like all sense goes out the window.

but what I would say like I'm happy that I mean the end of the the conversation between Diana and Sutton at lunch was brutal but only from Diana's side like she just kept they kept repeating the same thing over and over again admitted to being fake yeah she's like oh I am fake that was the fakes hug I've ever given that was the fakes emotion I've ever had like you are fucking fake yeah she says I'm fake she literally says verbatim I am fake and she goes back and forth and Sutton says I'm very genuine everything I do is very genuine you in and it just keeps going if you say so if you say so i am that's the truth if you say so that's the truth if you say so it is if you say stop it shut up and then sutton rightfully so

ends it like all right you know what this is it well i'm leaving like see you later but like didn't cause a scene didn't get all pissed off just got up grabbed her bag i'm going to head out see you later thank you she even thanked her for fucking lunch yeah which also i hope that she stiffed her with the bill absolutely i mean i would but i 100% would but that's where we get and and this brings me back i don't understand why they always i guess it's better for the show why do they do these things one-on-one if not just for the drama everything always gets resolved in a group of people even if diana doesn't mean which she's the fakesest person in on the show right now even if she doesn't mean what she says later at least it's somewhat resolved in the other house

so I just know what's going on. But that episode pretty much was just that lunch. And it sets up everything that happens in tonight's episode as well. Yeah. And I, tonight's episode wasn't like super thrilling, but I loved the Jamie Lee Curtis cameo because I fucking love Jamie Lee Curtis. Oh, and thank God because everybody else had COVID. Yeah, I know.

Rina has COVID. Garcel. Garcel had COVID. Erica. They all end up getting it at some point in this episode, except like Sheree and I think Diana. But I love, I forgot that Kyle was in Halloween with Jamie Lee multiple times. So like that's where that relationship comes from. And I guess it's a lunch for Jamie Lee Curtis's company that makes and sells things.

That's 100% nonprofit. All proceeds go to Children's Hospital, which is. Cool. It was like a really cool lunch, and she brings a gift bag for each one of the ladies. And then that gift bag was a wind chime, a snuggy little thing. Some body lotion, I think. Or a candle. A candle. Like, whatever. Normal things. Very run-of-the-mill, average gifts that you would get in a gift bag. Well, I thought the wind chime was pretty cool. But otherwise, very run of the bell.

Did you think it was chic? I thought it was chic. Because Dorit... I've never in my life. I thought it was a skit. She pulls out like a fucking, like cup. What are those cups called? Oh, the tumblers?

The tumblers. She pulls out a tumbler. Everybody in the world looks at a tumbler and understands what a tumbler does. It keeps your drink either hot or cold. Period. Dorrit goes, oh, it keeps your drink hot and cold. Amazing. Groundbreaking technology.

for during water is wet oh that's going to cause some people don't think water's wet oh god oh boy what let me do is that the sky is blue grass is green except for shooter because he's colorblind yeah well i mean there is that but i thought that the fundraiser i was a little worried the beginning of the episode just because we find out that like three of the top dogs have COVID so we're not going to get a whole lot i'm like oh god are we're going to have an entire episode without the three them. Thankfully not. But it does add to a certain mix because you see Kyle and Jamie Lee setting up the table and putting people next to each other. And this is when the fucking Kyle shit comes back up because who does she sit next to each other? I honestly just think

that Kyle wasn't thinking. I think that she was doing enough. No fucking way. I'm not defending Kyle at all. All I'm saying is if she's, this is at her home, she's setting up something, trying to be nice to Jamie Lee. Fine. I get that. Starstruck. I'm a little starstruck with her. She said Diana here, Sutton here. She wasn't verbally. Well, no. What happened was she put Diana at the end of the table. And then Jamie Lee Curtis came over with Sutton's bag and said, and Sutton here. And Kyle said, uh, yeah, didn't think about it. I disagree. I just went right across. Did you see her reaction to Sutton when she was trying to put on the eyelash? It was like she was talking to her three-year-old. Like,

I thought she was going to jump across the fucking table. No, It was, there was actually a really funny capture that I saw on Twitter. It was Kyle with her very angry face and in the background, Diana licking her lips. And it was like, this is, this season, by the way. Here we go. That's great. I love that. But yeah, I mean, it's after we get, as soon as we see that the two of them are sitting

next to each other, Diana immediately swaps, gets over, Sheree comes over, saves the day, thankfully. Nobody makes a big deal about it. Not a big deal at all. But then, Doreet, when she's not sticking her nose up, Jamie Lee Curtis, his ass she's sticking it up diana's ass exactly sneaking across the table how did the lunch go like talk about it another time diana fucking says that she went home and scrubbed herself scrubbed herself like you grow up all right it can't be that bad no one i've never hated somebody in my life enough

to like go home and scrub myself after having a lunch or like conversing with them that's that was crazy. Like, her reactions to everything, like, over the top and incorrect, and I just, I can't stand it. Yeah, I mean, I did think that getting back to Doreet, which I, you know, we can push all the Sutton and Diana shit aside and move forward with it. I thought that Dorete did a great job with her acting. I think she might be in the next Halloween movie with that.

Oh, they're all vying now for like horror film contracts, apparently. You got Sutton and Chucky and Halloween with Kyle, so maybe Doree. once a little taste of that action. I can see that. Yeah, absolutely. Moving to a different room. I think at first we get Sutton sitting with Sheree and then Doreet. Doree comes in.

She just wants to gossip. Again, she just asked Diana about it. Diana had the most dramatic fucking answers in the world. Ridiculous. Sits down with Sutton. Sutton's like explaining it from her perspective. And again, not once does anybody say, all right, Sutton, like I get it. Like, you were just trying.

It didn't work out. not a big deal she's just immediately taking diana diana's not even there and she's taking diana side i know she's sudden must feel if sutton isn't the way that she is the way that her mind is built she must like feel like the lonelist person on this cast because nobody except for garcel and now shri ever understands what she's doing and like sticks up for well shri had a great great quote she was like why are you always in trouble and sutton was like i don't know And she's like, because I say what I think. And she's like, well, we're going to stop doing that.

No, she said, where did that get you? Oh, where did that get? That's right. And Sutton's like, yeah, I'm going to stop talking. But then you guys aren't going to like me when I stop talking. And I agree. I have finally warmed up to Sutton because of the talking. The shit that she says.

And like, she's fucking funny, unintentionally. Completely unintentionally. And if she doesn't talk, if she doesn't do these things, There's not much of a storyline, to be honest. Like, that's what it's been for the last two years, is Sutton's saying or doing something, talking her way deeper into a hole, and then somebody comes and saves her finally. And she has gotten so good at apologizing. But while this is going on, while the three of them are talking, we flash over to Diana, Kyle, and Crystal.

And Crystal's telling them about something that's very close to her and very serious about her eating disorder. I actually do think that she was very genuine and I give her props for talking about it especially on the air. She posted something on Instagram and then talked about it on the show. Yeah, I think that it's important for obviously these women aren't role models all of the time but when you have a platform

I do appreciate when they have very human moments to put that out there and be vulnerable and be like, yeah, I'm struggling. I thought that was a cool moment for her actually. Yeah, and then we get Kyle doing what Kyle's been doing all season inserting herself and yeah I get it it's kind of what Sutton does where she's just trying to relate but Crystal's opening up about this breaking down

and you're asking her very serious questions like very specific questions it would be like if you want to compare this to Sutton and Diana's thing it would be like Sutton like all right so what happened with the miscarriage did you give birth to the baby like let's dig into this a little bit I went medically like how is this happening yeah and Kyle's just using it under the gaze of I went through this like I was younger I get that too that's fine like good for you that you went through that and you got through it and you're good now and you can't you just can't be asking people that serious questions I think when she's opening up about it you got to just let her

talk and and sympathize with her but the crazy thing is like I thought that was a one-up moment Diana doesn't say a fucking word no she just licks her lips the whole time she licks her lips and just like oh that's really tough and like is not commenting on the fact that Kyle just pulled a full-blown Sutton but worse and everything's about Kyle right everything's cool because it's Kyle's not Sutton and then they all convened together and we get what you say is the only way to resolve problems with these groups of women is like get them in a group and get them to talk it out in front of other people and that's what they do and I it this pissed me off because Sutton has nothing to apologize for no she

doesn't need to say sorry and she fucking says sorry. She claimed that 95% of the issue was her. 98% was Diana. I'll give Sutton 2% for coming in hot with the, you're not on bed rest now. Yep. That's her 2%. Absolutely. The rest is Diana.

I didn't think so. I thought for like a housewife show that's pretty mellow. Yeah. I mean it was on the heels of her sending a group text misspelling Garcell's name and talking about this whole like in-depth situation. Then she just says up the I know.

And everybody's wondering it. Like, Diana was sick and in bed yesterday on bed rest. Why is she here now? And she's here now. Nobody has the balls to ask her except for Sutton. And she gets crushed. And no one helps her. No, she gets teamed up on by multiple people except for Garcell, thank God.

But they're sitting there and Diana goes awkward. And Kyle does the fakedest fucking laugh and, like, hits her in the knee. And I was like, what are you doing? You look so fucking needy. And it's embarrassing. We had a quick running with the COVID ladies, Renna and Erica. There was a line from Erica that I thought was very funny. She didn't mean for it to be funny, but I took it very funny.

She said, she was talking about Tom's health and how it's deteriorating and all this stuff. And she goes, you know what? Like, I went down this road with my grandmother. So I know how this works. So now in the same sentence you're talking about your grandmother's deteriorating health. and dying and your husband in a similar situation. Yeah. Like, yeah, you know, it's, it's there.

And yeah, I mean, to her point, I wouldn't force him either. If you have to pay him alimony, no chance in hell. I mean, yeah, he might kick the bucket in the year or less. Well, then you don't have to pay alimony. Exactly. So it's not really worth it. Just, you know, wait till. Write it out.

Wait till it goes, but. Wait till it goes. A polite way of saying, wait till he dies. Yeah, exactly. And, yeah, it's just the COVID ladies just talking and figuring out what's going on. But we get the return, finally, the return of Kathy Hilton. Yeah. And we get to go to her house, which, holy shit.

Unbelievable. It was incredible. She just dropped. She was like, I was, this is the tree and this is the room that I was posing for in an architectural digest. Yeah. Okay. But she's Kathy Hilton. Like, I forget, like, the weight that that carries, you know, granted she's in some hot water right now, but.

But this did kind of seem like almost like an emergency button for Bravo. The season's going down the tubes. Let's bring out Kathy. Yeah, let's bring out the big guns. Let's bring in Kathy. And I didn't think she was all that entertaining at the lunch. I thought that the lunch in general was bizarre. That's how they do it in Paris, apparently.

It's a baked potato with caviar. Do you like caviar? No. I don't either. And, like, if someone. somebody served me that. Like, I was with Kyle there where she's like, is this the entree? Like, yeah. I would just eat the baked potato and ask for another one. And she put so much caviar on there. That's insane. You can't put that much caviar on a baked potato. I don't care who the

fuck you are. Kathy Hilton, Paris Hilton, Tommy Hilton, like, it doesn't fucking matter. It's too much caviar. And then right from there, we get over to, which I thought was just such an odd moment, we get a little Asher return I always forget about him until he comes back on the screen I this is you're going to hate this I thought that it was actually kind of nice

that he had a voice so like we get these the younger housewives and we see it with Sergio they have no voice they can't do anything Diana actually gave him props and said you know

when it comes to these things Asher's way more logical than I am what I thought was very weird about this was they were walking through their own house with the party planner we've been in this house a bunch of times walking through their own house at the party planner it looked like they were showing a house like they've never seen this place before they were standing awkwardly in corners and looking around and like you fucking live here uncomfortable in their own home it was so strange and they're

like talking about the stuff like the layout out back and diana wants people to lay down during the party i don't know she has no idea what's going on and ash was like no we put a bar here and do this and that and she just deferred to him and i thought that was actually kind of nice not that I support Asher like Asher at all I mean his exchange with Diana's 22 year old son In last week's episode Awkward as fuck They didn't say a word to each other

Like they talked around each other Like you could see Asher was like looking at him And her son was just like Talking to his mom Yeah And then going back through to Ashley Because he's four years older than him And I get it

It is very weird But the minute I saw Asher Walk onto the screen Waring a fucking beanie And triangle sunglasses I was done immediately. They were diamonds. Were they diamonds?

Diamond sunglasses. That's even worse. I wish you hadn't told me that. You're welcome. That's a pet peeve of mine. Beanie's in warm weather. Like either hair or hat, no fucking beanie, pal.

It's not hot outside. It's not practical. And you look stupid, especially when you throw on some diamond fucking sunglasses. Tough look. Not an Asher fan. I have a really weird feeling

you're going to start to turn into one, and I don't care for where this is going? I don't think he gets enough screen time for me to be in a video, no, no, no. But if he does, if he gets more screen time and he actually talks, like, I need to see him around the other housewives. I don't want to just see him, Diana, mixing it up, because that's boring. But if he gets involved anyway, well, Rina wants his fucking suit. He looked legit and, like, I don't know to post.

Rina would rock that suit for sure. Rina would crush that suit, but I want to post. Very Austin Powers. I thought it was Night at the Rock. Oh, yeah, that too. I want to post on our Instagram side by side of, like, Will Ferrell in Night at the Rocksbury next to Asher and his outfit, because I'm pretty sure it's the fucking same. He even had the chain.

Yeah. He looked like that. And if he took the jacket off, he would have looked like the rock in that picture when he's got the fanny pack and the turtleneck on. Well, this is, and it's just so weird the way that the cycle goes. Like, when we show back up at their house and it goes from a barren house and not barren necessarily but like you wouldn't know it was christmas you wouldn't know that they celebrate it at this point i think christmas is over again time frame's getting skewed they're having a christmas party

they come back what seems like a couple hours later decked out trees everywhere decorations everywhere that's surprising to you she can hire the world of course it was just funny to see like one moment this one moment that but we get back and it's like a cycle of covid where you get a couple more back you get a couple more out and at first I stopped for a second when they said that Sutton wasn't coming I was like I don't think Sutton's petty like that I think she faces her fears that yes so Sutton definitely had COVID and she was out um but you see them all kind of like mixing in and the one thing that I have to say about like their outfits walking and I thought for the majority of them they look pretty good Rina always fucks up her

outfit with some weird shoes oh see I don't know if we're in a position position to comment on shoes. Maybe that's like a good look. Now, I'm going to comment out. I mean, nobody really liked her look last week when she looked like Austin Powers. But she rolled in. That's not true. They did the Sheik or Meek on Watch What Happens Live tonight and they showed her Austin Powers outfit and everybody there said Sheik. That's crazy to me. But that's what I'm saying. We might not have the eye for the shoes. We're going to, I don't, I are not. I'm putting a statement out there. I are not. Putting a statement out there. The brav bros have an eye for fashion. Yeah, F-A-S-H-U-N, fashion.

And I think that Rinnett, I love for the majority of what she does. I like her outfits. I think she always just throws in some funky shoes and tries to land, and it doesn't really work. Well, you know what? It's not your place to say. If she wants to wear the shoes, she can wear the shoes. Fuck you. It is my place to say.

Okay. But, I mean, the only kind of major thing here that happened at the dinner, um, Erica gets lit again and she's talking to Crystal about her eating disorder and it was just so fucking tone deaf. Like she says at first like, oh yeah, I just take a bunch of laxatives. Like, whoa, whoa. One, you can't say that to somebody that has an eating disorder and like one, you're suggesting

a different way to do it or two, you're saying like, oh, that's not a problem. I'm like just shit it out. Like it was so insensitive to Crystal who honestly, again, in this episode, like I actually enjoyed seeing her on the screen a little bit. Like she was talking to somebody that else that was at the party about her kids. And it was like a genuine moment where she was like actually eliciting emotion and she was like laughing and like having a good time. And I was like, all right.

Like I can watch that. Yeah. As long as she has like in. And we walked through it a couple episodes ago with her and our family. Like when we see those genuine moments with Crystal, she's fine. It's fine. It's good.

And Kathy even called her. She said, I got to put a hat on you. Like my little leprecha. My little green elf. And like it's just so funny. Like Kathy's so funny. Like when she walks in,

the way she says hello. Oh my God. Renna's impression of her was great. Where have you been? It's just so, like it's so great when she comes in. And thank the Lord. We get Garcel back because.

right when Erica says that to Crystal, everybody kind of just like turns a blind eye, doesn't know it? And Garcel goes, oh, you can't, you can't say that. Yeah, that's, you don't know, absolutely not. And then she goes, Eric is not a doctor. Like, fucking, yeah, Eric is not a doctor. Yeah, no shit. I hope not.

But you get Erica just going off the walls. I mean, she showed up. She was like, ah, she just got off COVID. Like, just got off COVID. And she's walking through and she's like, yeah, I'm going to have a little drinks, a couple drinks tonight. I don't want another repeat of Garcell. Or maybe I do.

And like, what are you doing? Like, we just had this discussion with you. We just talked to you about this, Erica. Two weeks ago. I don't know what the time frame is. Somebody explained to me the goddamn time frame. Where are we? What day is it, Marco?

I don't know what's going on, but they're sitting there and talking to you about, like, they didn't upright bring her drinking problem, but they did say, you know, maybe like a little less booze, more, just a better balance. Like, don't go overboard. And she's just like, ah, I'm going to go overboard again. Like, right away. and immediately just puts herself in a bad situation talking to Crystal. And again, thank God Garcel showed up,

because I really did think that we were going to have a full episode without Garcel's reasoning and logic. And she showed up at the right time to at least diffuse something there. For a minute, and then they bring out some chicken fingers and my jaw hit the floor at this line. Like, oh, you can't have these. Ha, ha, ha. I was like, what the fuck?

Yeah. Like, after you try to, in your own weird, way like relate or sympathize but like you're talking to her about it or so yeah i guess you're trying to fix it which is also stupid but she was talking to crystal for a while and i think she was trying to be nice and then to like negate all of it by being like oh you can't have a chicken finger like what are you doing well at that moment i actually did say oh bravo like no don't do that like because they went right from crystal talking about her eating disorder pans over chicken fingers I was just, and then Erica did say you can't have those.

So I was like, all right, there was a reason for that. I thought that Bravo was just like, here's an eating disorder. Here's some chicken food. I was like, oh, fuck you, Bravo. But no, fuck you, Erica. Yeah, it went right back to that. That was a tough look. I don't know.

I mean, we'll see where it goes. Obviously, we'll keep watching. We're almost to the end of it, which is nuts that we're. We're gearing up for a reunion, which is going to be great. I'm excited for our first reunion. I almost want to do like a live stream of our first reunion. Maybe not a live stream, but we could sit together and tweet about it. Yeah, I'm down for that, but we got a winner to announce.

We got some tickets to give away to Tom Sandoval and the Most Extras at the Canyon Agora Hills and Shooter. Who is our big winner? So we do have a big winner for two tickets, and they did the right thing. They actually had two entries, followed us on Instagram and Twitter. Boy, smart move. Yep, doubled your likelihood. The winner of the two tickets to Tom Sandoval and the Most Extras on.

this Saturday, the 23rd, Amber Montoya from Santa Clarita, California. Amber Montoya, come on down. You are a big winner. Yeah, we'll get those tickets over to you. Hopefully you have a good time. Make sure you post when you're there. Tag us. Because we want to be there and we can't. So we're going to live vicariously through your stories, Amber. So congratulations. The tickets will be waiting for you at the box office when you get to the canyon. Doors open at six. it's at eight, enjoy yourself.

We got actually quite a few questions. We got actual followers now, so we get some actual good questions. So up first from Allie Vargas. Is Kathy annoying rich or charming rich? Annoying Rich. I'm not taking any time to think about that one. Yeah, she's annoying rich.

Wow. Just the whole scene with the fucking caviar. Up next, we got Chris Kinga TX. Maybe he's from Texas. Oh, yeah. Hey, me too. When did your housewives obsessions start? It didn't become a full-blown obsession, probably, until just before we started doing the podcast.

Oh, interesting timing. Well, it was interesting timing. I mean, we were talking about it a lot, but my backstory was more like I was more obsessed with, like, Summer House. Like, I followed all them on Instagram, and I was keeping tabs on them all the time. Southern Charm a little bit as well. and then it went full blue. My obsession started,

my Bravo obsession started with Fanderpump. That was my first show. But my housewife's obsession was Rony, actually. That was... Is it just because the abbreviation works? No, but that was really nice that it just like was so smooth, the Rony. I love that.

But, no, Dev, my wife, that was her favorite franchise. And she had it on all the time. and I started to watch it. This is post Vanderpump. I'd already streamed all those seasons, so I needed something new, and that fit the bill.

I really enjoyed Roney. So that was my obsession. Up next, Julian Higgins. Are you going to BravoCon? Easy answer here. If we get invited, we'll be there. Absolutely. I think we can get some media credentials.

If we can get some credentials, we'll be there. If not, maybe next year. Not this year, but maybe next year is more feasible. Next year is definitely more feasible. I mean, it is October, it's June. now we got a couple of months to get there so yeah so we'll see if if we go we will make sure that

we post all about it um is this like a do i dress up as my favorite house oh do you think it's like comic con yeah i don't know do i who would you dress up as then ship kidding i'm kidding what housewife would you dress up as uh probably rent it because i can just dress up as austin powers well oh my god if we go to bravocon we are going to both where Austin power suits. Yeah. There you go. Last one here from our fellow brav bro,

K. Farrington 21. What's your go-to snack when watching the show? Oh, that's a good one. I've actually been big on frozen fruit pops recently. What? Yeah. That is the last thing I thought you were going to say. I'm a dessert junkie.

I don't like, I mean, I do like pretzels and whatever. chips you know throw in normal things but i i love ice cream but ice cream is not good for you if you want to stay fit so i have a frozen fruit pop you know that no there's nothing wrong with that i just i wasn't expecting that at all my go-to recently has been those little peanut butter pretzels oh those are good you know uh dev gets them from trader joes and you're supposed to have like seven or eight and i think i have like half the bag i can't stop like once you start with those bad boys, you can't stop. But that wraps it up. That's all we got tonight. Make sure that you

follow us on Instagram at Brov underscore Bros. Follow us on TikTok at Brov Bros. And then follow us on Twitter at Brov underscore Bros. Once again, congratulations to our big winner, Amber Montoya. Have a great fucking time. Have a great time for both of us since we can't be there. And we will see you guys next week. Yep. See you guys later. Bro. Boas are out. We're out of here. Bye. The Old West

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