Bros & Shows - Ciara's Over It and Jesse and Lexi are Together Again (Summer House Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

What's up Bros? Summer is almost over but the drama is not. Lexi and Jesse are back together... Yay... West struggles with his emotions as he sits with the one year anniversary of a friend passing. Jesse asks for advice on how to talk to Ciara. Kyle gets the results of his fertility test back. Amanda speaks on their future with or without children. Ciara puts her foot down with Jesse and is simply over the whole situation... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's what I want to talk about emotional and being vulnerable for dudes. That's something I want to get into. The male loneliness epidemic? No. No, not specifically? I mean, it's raining. Why not? What better time to talk about just male shows?

Yeah. I got to have me my pros and shows. Brows and shows. Rose and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only gloomy goots,

not because of your mood, but because of the weather. My mood's actually pretty high right now. I was supposed to golf today, but it's raining, so I can't. But I'm playing tomorrow, so everything's fine. I wanted to raise a question to you. Something just popped into my head. When we do these remote sessions, do you ever get the sudden urge to snack? like just like bring a bag of chips from like obviously it would be horrible but like I

always want to just like make an Oreo or something over there like hmm all right maybe it's because I'm like more of like a coffee guy I always have coffee for these that no but I can see that being a thing I'm sorry I feel like I left you out on an island there I should have just no no it's just worry about it no no it's okay trust me supporting men's emotions in my right after I just said that like no you're fucking stupid I don't feel what an idiot It was a terrible, terrible move. We could play, and this is just a little insight into us when we play video games. We play what's in my mouth.

And that's when we eat food on our microphones and you have to guess what we're snacking on. So we can play that with everybody. We could just do that. No, and then you'd have to change the name of it because the name's not very savory. And for the record, it's always an unintentional game because someone forgets to mute themselves. inevitably hear them like chewing on something and it's very annoying so that it has morphed into what's in my mouth i get it how it sounds uh yeah and believe me you would think that it's you would think it's an absolute crap shoot but it's really not like you can tell the sounds

that different candies and mixed nuts and things like that make you can figure it out i'd say my my average i'm probably like i'm probably like 60% of the time i get it right it's pretty good I think 50 is a good benchmark. So I think so I think that is solid. Well, you have to take into account like, all right, well, what would I snack on playing? Okay. Now, what's the crunch factor?

Is it out chewy to, that's how you find out it's like a chip or a candy? Yeah. You kind of go from there. High pitch crunch, definitely a chip. Yeah. Sometimes it's like a lower pitch. If it's a really low pitch, it's probably something bulkier like a nut or, uh, what I get the other day?

Peanut M&Ms I got the other day. That was a good one. That was a good get. You did get that one. I'll give you that. But, uh, we're not here to play that game. We're here to talk about Summerhouse and the male loneliness epidemic, apparently.

That's not what I was referring to. I just, we'll get into it a little bit later. But I don't have a whole lot of notes for this season, honestly. I think that they've done a really good job throughout it. We're getting close to the end now. I think that we got, what, two weeks left in the house they were saying, one week even? I think we're going to close to the end. Yeah.

So this was episode 13, I think. So there's probably 15 total. I imagine next week's the penultimate. but I understand and there are like people online that have gripes about the season and I understand the gripes I'm enjoying it I think it's fine but I tend to compare it to like the dark seasons where it was very boring very annoying I think that's me too get on my nerves a lot so I'm enjoying it because it seems so much lighter and there are things going on and this could have taken so many different turns but it really hasn't so I'm grateful for that and I'm just enjoying it but there are a lot of things online specifically with castmates that aren't really featured much. It looks like Imral completely got edited out this episode. I know. He's been,

when the last time he had any anything really, three weeks ago? I believe it was just after the dust settled from Togate. Right. Like after kickball, that following weekends, he was around just to talk more about it, but then that next weekend,

gone. Yeah, that's weird. And he's been there too. He was there on Friday night. And obviously, you know, that's kind of where we start with this episode.

but he was there Friday night there's pictures of him apparently he went to the dinner because they split up for dinner apparently he went to the dinner with like sierra and west and Amanda he was there and wasn't yeah he was at that dinner apparently yeah that's that's the funny thing too with i i'm not really sure honestly i think we might find out at the reunion maybe there's you know some gripes that he's presented or you know maybe it's just the way that he's been talking about bravo which you know has kind of been in the news about you know how he feels about the show and his place on it so who knows after the fact is that not a product of them not featuring him uh it kind of was i think it was more how they were featuring him is how he

what he was upset about where they were just honing it on just orgy beast but i could offer all this other stuff yeah exactly um so i i really don't know honestly i think that it's going to be interesting i wouldn't be surprised if we really don't see him at all until the end of the season and then we'll have to see what happens at the reunion and if he's really not in that then we kind of understand what's going on but that's kind of interesting and obviously you know a lot of people are tired of the lexie and jesse stuff which i also understand but that i get but i'm kind of laughing at this point because i'm like west looking at this where it's so fucking nuts and i'm like i kind of love it so fucking nuts yeah it just makes me feel better so i agree i think those you're

right those are valid gripes i don't have those and i think that you said it perfectly it's probably because of what we've been given with summerhouse over the past three four years to get this where it's like all right you're irritated by a recurring storyline sure and like lexie and jesse he's kind of annoying sure but there's a lot of light stuff we're fucking laughing at things again like kyle and amanda have been i think that that's a big part of it they've been enjoyable all summer watching amanda come into her own and feel good about herself watching kyle not nosedive their marriage has been nice as well so even with the things going on too it's not like they're not talking about heavy things in their marriage still. It's just nice to see that

they're still getting along and it shows, you know, they've been through so much and they've been through so much on camera that we've seen. So it's nice to see, like you said, he's not nosediving the marriage as we've seen in the past. Maybe there's some growth there and we love growth. And there is some growth in this episode from Kyle too. And that's incredible. One thing that did come up this week, though, specifically about the reunion, somebody asked Jesse, Jesse did some sort of like Amazon Q&A, like Ask Jesse or whatever. I'm sure that one of those questions, you know, he pretty much just dodged. But one thing he said about the reunion is that there's something, something crazy that happens that they didn't know about as an announcement.

So he used the word announcement and he said, I can't tell you what it is right now, but something happened. So I think, I think it actually is something. Actually, I'm going to go contrary on that. A lot of people are thinking that Lindsay's going to leave and Lindsay's going to New York and that's the thing. But honestly, we may have started that rumor, by the way. I want to put this out there. we may have started that for what two years now yeah and now people are catching on in almost every comment is that we started that so i'm just taking credit for it you know how much shit we got

for that when we dropped that two years ago yeah i would ruin the show blah blah blah and now now everyone's chirping unbelievable we got see first off roney didn't even get renewed yet so let's everybody calm down what fuck they're gonna do i don't know yeah there's a lot of news about that we did our news episode for the week in the following day 18 major news stories dropped so if you want to hear what we have to say about that we'll talk about it next week but uh the one that i do think has some legs is page leaving the show i could see page i that makes sense to me this could be her last season so that's where it's tough because like obviously it makes sense to me that she's going away from the show she's got so much going on she's successful like i get it

and i'm i'm happy for like obviously go live your best life the problem is because of the name of the show and I know it's not specific you don't have to be married but like page would be great if you're going to move lindsay over yeah i'm cool with moving page that would actually that would explain that their friendship has really taken like an increase in interest it seems like more people are asking questions about it they seem much happier they're talking a bunch so i wouldn't be surprised if they're kind of branch around those together you know what i mean it could also just be as simple as it could just be as simple as uh as pages podcast and like all the things that she's got going on it's just yeah

as you do it um but at a lindsay and page friendship as the core of a ronie would be awesome look if if we're again i'm taking credit for the lindsay going to roney thing let me take it a step further oh boy the other idea that we had by the way this this is another one that people stole from us we were talking two years ago again about having people like page amanda kyle even going to the city and then bringing in new people for summer house leave like jesse and west and gabby and whoever else like all the younger crew the people who have been on this show for a long time move them to new york summer in the city let's film let's do this we talked about that years ago that's another one that people are commenting on so i'm tired of everybody stealing our ideas we got to

we throw up the trademark all the time and it doesn't work i don't know copyright lawyer is going to have to get in contact with us because we need copyright it on the screen all the time we do our little hand motion which everyone knows means you can't steal it and yet here we are Disney it works for the bros exactly that's where we got the idea from that's watch a Disney channel movie thanks Hillary Duff

yeah wow which was your favorite Hillary Duff Disney Channel original Lizzie McGuire Lizzie McGuire movie I guess Cinderella story wasn't oh the show I'm talking about the movies Oh get at Kelly then if we're going to go movies Get at Kelly oh that was a good one

What's your favorite Disney Channel original movie, period? Then we'll start the show. Oh, uh, luck of the Irish is great. Mine is a toss up. I mean, it could just be Halloween town, like Halloween. No, that doesn't count on the level of its own because that took on its own like cult following. It really did. That you can use that.

All right, fine. I'll go xenon girl 21st century. Ooh, that's a good, good call. Good call. I'm going, mine's a toss up. It's really tough for me. It's either brink. yep or johnny tsunami johnny tsunami rocked johnny tsunami so good or jet jackson r ip jet jackson's

great i love jet jackson but like brink for me was like generational like brooks and i my older brother like we bought blades and like we learned how to roller skate like we thought we were sick and like you know we made shirts i think we just wrote like team puff and suds on our shirts fuck yeah but i but johnny tsunami was fucking that shit was lit i don't know bro i got a break i'll pick break had more of an impact on me similar energies too i'll give you that well yeah i was a skater boy back in the day yeah yeah yeah brother let's get into this though we're yeah we're now 12 minutes into this episode and uh yeah 12 episodes into this minute we're talking about break if you can't appreciate disney channel original movies and i you're listening to the rock podcast

yeah you're too young for me bro yeah well that Not even that. It's just if you, could you imagine me able to go back and watch the library without knowing about Disney Channel

original movies? You know excited? I used to get it like Friday nights. I'm like, oh my God, they do the song and everyone's jumping around.

The one kid do the splits. I just almost put my leg up. That would have been back. I really want a snack now too. Go make some popcorn. No, no, sit there and shut up.

Let's get into this episode. We start out. Paige and Lindsay, they're talking about Jesse and Lexi, which yes, it's wearing on all of us. Don't worry. If you are in the camp of this show,

wasn't that great this season such a different vibe for the whole season that I liked it, but they're talking about it. And, you know, Lexi joins the conversation and we get some clarity as to what's going on because I think Paige and Lindsay are all of us where it's like, what the fuck's going on with these two? Like, where do they stand? This shit's getting wacky. And Lexi's like, look, we talked for hours and hours.

We finally came together. I think we figured things out. And Paige Lynn's like, yeah. Hell yeah, girl. Woo! It's so feigned. Like, it's not real at all. Yeah, it's got to be super uncomfortable.

And this is when I never understand this. And I'm sure anybody who's pretty much anybody has been in this situation before where there's a toxic couple. You never know where they stand. You go on a trip or something or you're at a party and they show up together and you're like, fuck, why? You don't know how to talk to them. I just watched you guys and you guys threatened to kill each other last week.

And now this week you're like, oh, God, I love you so much. And that's pretty much everybody in this house. That is pretty much where they are. Like, uh, we can't just outright tell you guys, what do you, doing up but we're just going to sit here and just take it i have however done a complete reevaluation of lexie and her family i didn't think there was anything wrong with it i am fully against them now i think they're weirdos this is what i brought up to you way back i said you don't remember that strange and you're like no i was like i mean i get like sisters are closer than brothers so

like you know i have i don't have a sister struck me as overbearing it struck me as a little too much this is all kind of confirming again i'm all for being close with your family being best friends with your family like that's great i think it's awesome but like when they all moved into the same bed now that's what they said early and i said you don't think that's a little strange you're like no i think it's nice i think i was just giving them the benefit of the doubt and like you know what i don't i don't know the full story i feel like i know a little bit more now and it's weird i'm cool with giving them a little bit of the benny like if it's not for me

but like they like to do it like that's fine but like when you add into it you know all the rest of it it's like it's just a little bit of a weird scenario everyone can live their life how they want to live it i'm just saying i'm going to say it's worse than that it's it's a little strange they're weird they're bizarre people is that really canadians uh now i'm going to offend people wow taking a shot of can i do not i do not condone that i don't agree i'm not a like hockey and we like our families to be weirdly close here we go there we just lost our whole canadian audience well done but anyway we get carlin west and they're driving up to the Hampton's

and West gives like a little update he's like yeah I went out with Jesse and Lexi and the whole family and he's like yeah like Carl Carl could you imagine Jesse was grinding on Lexi the entire time in front of the mom I'm like that's

fucking bizarre I can't stand when I watch people do PDA if my sister was getting grinded upon by some dude while we were out, I'd be like, excuse me, what's your fucking problem? Like, you wouldn't be there first off. It would be your mom and your other sister. Well, that's true.

My mom would be like, what do you do it? You know, Gayle would be like, time out. What's your fucking problem? She would be worse than me. I love the spin zone too because Jesse's like, well, you know, like they were out really late with us. Like, what do you want him to do? Like, is he supposed to just stand there?

I'm like, no, no, no, no. He probably did that very early. and you're just being a boy and just like helping him out a little bit. I'm sure as soon as he got there, he probably made out with her in front of the sister and mom, continued down that road and just kept going. So Jesse's saying like, oh, yeah, it's a little weird. I don't believe him.

I don't think he cares, but I would be so uncomfortable. Like, even I was sitting there to Dev and she's like, I, not in a million years. And then I thought about her dad. I was like, yeah, he would fucking strangle me. Like, there's no way. Like, that's just a bizarre move. But anyway. With MX Platinum, access to exclusive AMX pre-sale tickets can score you a spot

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even asking questions anymore he's just he doesn't know he actually he's formulated a full opinion but he's not even going to bother asking them like where are you guys at how was your talk this week yeah especially in a moment where there's no cameras and you're at the club together it's like I'm not fucking deal with us I don't want to open this up right now right because you know how it goes like you've been in this scenario before like when you have a friend in a toxic relation you get to a point where you're like I'm tapping And I'll, you guys figure this out one way or another. I can't, I can't give you my energy anymore.

But we get Amanda, Kyle, and Sierra, and Amanda says that she went over to Gabby's house, and Lexi was there with her sister and Gabby. And she's talking about the Jesse scenario there saying, like, yeah, I'm going to give him a second chance. I like Amanda's self-awareness here. She's like, look, I've given this guy probably too many second chances. And Kyle's like, to, oh, fuck, as he's drunk. Just going to laugh this one off. but she's like I'm not going to say you can't do that which is good that's good for her to like acknowledge that part of it but she's like it's just the way that Jesse I guess Kyle jumps in like it's the way that he portrays this whole scenario to the boys but before he could finish that thought there was like a dude's dinner the other night and Amanda's like well what did you talk about there? He's like well we pretty much just talked about Sierra actually and like Sierra's in the back of the car and the fact that Jesse is still putting some kind of

emphasis on her being part of the problem. And that's what Amanda calls out. It's like, that's what he does. Like, he needs somebody to blame. And we've seen him do that all season. Like, it's never his fault. It's always a joke. He points fingers here, here, here instead of being like, oh, maybe I'm the problem.

Yep. Every single time. And I do like, Sierra's reactions to these things is, it's always so funny. Like, she's caught off guard by even being talked about. It's like, uh, you've been in the conversation for a long time, whether you like it or not. And yes, you have stayed away and you've made it yourself like very clear. that you want nothing to do with Jesse you're going to try to stay out of it but you're already involved in it and the way that these two are going they're probably bonding over the fact that

now they're blaming you like they're probably getting closer in their relationship because they're getting to the point where they're like oh it was definitely Sierra's fault like if we just stay away from Sierra we're good those two yeah Jesse Jesse and Lexi are going to and I think you see that in scenes from next week where it's like it will inevitably take that turn which is not cool, not correct, but that's what's going to spin into because it's like a common enemy to unite those two. Like, let's get over this shit. Who's the real

problem? Sierra, it's like, no. No, Jesse's the real problem. But this gives them a focal point to be able to move forward with their toxic shit. Because now they can point is the real. And Lexi's going on like a fucking press tour right now. She could just like

let it lie. She's not doing herself any favors right. I don't know. Yeah, I know. One thing was like, I think that was eye opening on bio files where she's like he said but now it's getting too much it's almost it's almost too much where it's like all right like we all know what you're saying we get it and we have your back to a certain extent but you start doing stuff and it's like you're kind of involved in this like whether you like it or not like yes obviously the tables have turned early on everyone's like the hell's going on here is lexie just really weirdly protective or doing this or that or whatever

it turns out now it's like all right it's it's definitely jessey okay cool now the more the she talks. I'm like, it's both of you. Like, you're, you're just taking more responsibility to the problem. I mean, hold on. Like, Jesse's the problem. I don't want to get it twisted. But like, the relationship as a whole is kind of fucked up. Like, it's just a fucked up situation. But Amanda and Sierra arrive. It's so interesting to watch the trajectory of Jesse. Because he's now at the point, like his flirty shit, if he does that anymore to anybody, it's going to come off creepy now. Like, you can't say the things that he used to say. And you can tell the, the attitude around him has changed he's like hey guys how are you and like a man in sierra like firm cold

shoulder they don't even look at him which is that's tough it's a tough look for him but yeah page call i like that they're at a point now as a group where it's like we're no longer going to tiptoe around how weird you two are yeah page in front of everyone's like yeah jesse and lexie walk and they're all like smiling and together again ha ha ha and everyone's like weird but i like i really like this coping mechanism and it's taking them seasons to get here. Instead of letting it actually affect the entire house and bring everybody down, they call it out now. They do let it get to a certain point and they're like, all right, this is getting too much. Let's all start talking about it and we'll figure out a way how to just call it out in front of everybody. Sure. It took them

like six or seven seasons to get here, but I'm happy that they're here, especially with a moment like this because this had the opportunity to just throw everybody into a spiral and then it would be a very boring season and only Lexi and Jesse would get the attention. Now it's like, all right, I like this mix it up everybody you guys are staying together i agree with you but kyle is getting his sperm results back he's a little bit nervous a little bit nervy about the whole situation in general because he's worried that the boys aren't swimming too well and he's also now concerned that amanda is going to rule out kids forever given what the conversation was last week so he's a little bit nervous but that could be the other announcement oh man is pregnant uh no

I don't think so. I don't know. I mean, it could be, but I don't know. No, for sure. That would be a big announcement. I just, I don't know. I don't know, but Carl checks in. It's like, how are you, Lexi?

You know, I'm rooting for you guys. I can, I can relate how difficult it is to date in this house, which is, which is nice, I suppose. But she's like, we really got down to the nitty gritty. Got down to the nitty gritty. We really figured out the problem. Anytime a toxic relationship says this, I'd ever believe them, ever. But she's like, we figured out the problem. Jesse what's the problem

Amanda asks My communication was poor You know and then Sierra chimes in She's like so you're not a liar or two-faced That wasn't your takeaway or that was your take where you're not a liar or two-faced got it Okay cool It's like yep I don't think this would have happened to if Amanda didn't tell Sierra in the car on the ride up

I think that changed her That reignited the flame I think she was gonna stay out of it and just avoid avoid avoid avoid and be like you know what It's not worth it for me to be involved in any of this Once they once Sierra ended up hearing that they're still talking about I think it's all they're talking about. She's like, yeah, I'm going to stand up for myself. And I like this from Sierra, too.

Don't take no shit. Don't take any shit. And Jesse's like, aye, yeah, yeah. He's like, what are you trying to say? Jesse, what else could you take from this? Like, here's where I get frustrated with them. It's like when you hear the critiques about what you're doing, it seems like it falls on deaf ears.

It seems like you're not understanding that you're part of, you're part of the problem. You are the problem. Like how you're moving is a fact. people. You'd think after all of this backlash, he would be like, oh, I get it. But this whole episode tells you he simply does not at all. But Kyle returns to the group. And I guess the number we're looking for is 20 mil. And I love that they do like a price is right thing. It's like a hundred 59 million. Ding, ding, ding, ding. So he's extremely fertile. If he sneezes on somebody,

they might get pregnant, which I thought was kind of funny. Yeah. But in his confessional, he's like, you know obviously the relationship the givens have changed over the years like he does say like there'd be times where I would want a little bit more affection want a little bit more attention but I'm also realizing that just because I thought this was a big realization the way he phrased that I liked he's like I just realized like just because I'm ready she might not be I'm like yes that is growth based on you know we support that here and either one of two things happened here one, which typically happens on these shows, he already knew the information,

he already talked to the doctor before you got there, and this was just for show, and Amanda already knew that he was good, and that's why she didn't react. Or, and if this is the truth, I actually do kind of feel bad for Kyle, because Amanda did not react really at all. She just kind of smiled and sat there. I know, you're not like, I know you're always

kids, but like, a high five. Hey, that's great. Like, you're not medically impaired in your balls. Like, something along those lines. I felt for him too I'm like oh no yeah that does suck just a little something the rest of the girls in the house are like

what do you want them to do like you want her to like stand up and throw you a party it's like no like a hug it's not like Craig it's not the Craig thing where Craig was not the Craig thing I'm going to talk about that when we get to what page says later that's why I started this episode off like I want to talk about male emotions a little bit but like something some kind of acknowledgement that hey I'm glad that you are not infertile you know

like something I really hope that it's the first thing that I brought up I really hope that Amanda already knew and she just could not fake it I hope so not just like jump up and down and act like excited again because she already did that and like yeah I'll give them the benefit of the doubt because it seems like it but if it's not that I feel bad I do too and like look I love Amanda and I think she's had an awesome season I love hearing about the growth that she's made in a personal life I love that she's getting more comfortable I love that she is in a place where she can say hey I'm not ready for kids because of all these things and I'm Like, I fucking respect that so much.

But like a pat on the butt, high five, like, like something, like anything. Now just kiss them. Just, just kiss it. Just something. I don't know. I felt bad. But we had Carl and Jesse and Kyle, but not before. Sierra gives West a little drinky poo, which was nice.

Yeah. Leftover is nice. Yeah. Dude, he's so fucking funny. I'm sorry. Like, I know. Everybody just has to. Everybody has collectively, I think, moved on.

Jesse's now public enemy number one, which if you listen to the Vial Files, that's what Lexi says that Jesse kind of wanted. Like, West got so much attention last year during all of that. Kind of jealous of it. Now Jesse's getting the attention, putting out music. He said that West got famous by fucking Sierra over. That's why I didn't have that many issues with Lexi's podcast appearance. I'm like, if he's saying this shit, like, that deserves to be aired out, I think. Yeah.

No, it definitely does. But I love his reactions now, too, because you can tell. And this was a good episode for that. When he's sitting there and he goes, after Sierra gives him the drink, he goes, and like fake cheerses her. He's like, yeah, I thought he was looking at somebody across the table. Like, do you see that? He did, yeah. That's exactly what he's doing.

But later in the episode, he looked straight into the camera. That's the picture. He broke the fourth wall with when Jesse and Lexi were hugging. His reactions were so good this episode. It's so funny. But I can't wait to get it. I texted him. I texted him and said, hey, pal, there's nothing manlier than being vulnerable.

Bravo. Yeah. It was just nice to see. But anyway, Carl Jesse and Kyle are sitting outside. Carl's talking about soft bar. And we learn about the logistics a little bit. He just is about to sign a seven-year lease on a $10,000 a month industrial warehouse that's going to. Let me just get through all of it.

600,000 for the buildout. And Kyle, who has some experience with this stuff, is like, all right, so, you know, plus 50%, so we're probably looking at 9,000. hundred thousand which is risky and he's like I know it's risky but I'm doing it and look I thought and I'm not you will never hear me shit on this idea just because I do believe in you can shit on the business plan the meat the idea is I thought I like the idea I thought that we were going to talk about like a like a row home bar that you would see you know in Brooklyn or like if you're going down like Mannyunk like something small cozy has some cool drinks like a little bit of food but like cozy i did not think like well how much was that penhouse

that him and lindsay lived in 10 000 a month no 20 000 yeah so he's actually saving money well he probably will be honestly i mean but that's like dude because here's the thing dev had a good point like you know as we're trying we talked about like the logistics a little bit to try to figure out what you don't have with a bar like this is the drunk effect because if you go to a bar bar and you're getting hammered, you are much more willing to throw your credit card down and say shots, drinks, next round, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're going to make your money back because people get drunk and spend more money.

You don't have that as soft bar. You're not going to have the five, six, seven, eight drinks from somebody that's getting wasted. You're going to have one or two, have a little bit of like some aperitif, and then you're going to leave. Yeah. it's it's not a profitable business i don't know why he why didn't he just keep the on the go thing like it's for now for a while and see them brick and mortar down the road yeah it seems like he's he is rushing into this obviously and i think what he says next is very indicative of why he's

rushing into it he's to prove lindsay wrong it's proven to lindsay yeah yeah and probably proving to himself that he can do it and unfortunately you do i like the go getting all that money Yeah, but he's, it's so short-sighted because it's like, I did this. Like, yes, when it opens, you're going to be proud of yourself. You're going to be like, wow, I can't believe I finally got here. Six months down the line, you're going to be dying. I just don't see how you make enough money to pay for the lease to pay for the people that work there. All the food that you're going to have there, all of the drinks that have to get made, all the products and shit.

Like, there's so much more that goes into it. And this is just the build out. The other thing is just renting the build out. It's over a million. already like what do you do it but like the shelf life of booze right like you had a longer shelf life there because alcohol doesn't really go bad shelf life of like juices and shit yeah that's a quick turnover rate i don't know it i look you need like fresh fruit you know man like i hope and pray that it does like i don't want it to fail and i love that he is a scenario it breaks even i think

i don't yeah i just i wanted to be successful it's just when he said it's a warehouse built i I was like, damn, bro, that's a lot of space for a non-alcoholic bar. He should have just done pop-up for maybe the entire time. Maybe two years. Like, I think you do pop-up to test the waters where it's like how lucrative. You do pop-ups and to raise capital. It gives you two extra years to raise the capital. And now-

If it does well, outside investors will invest. You have less skin in the game. Yes, you still have to pay them back, but like, you have way less skin in the game for your own self. And then you can do it. And still by that point, you don't get a warehouse for $10,000. you get what you said you buy a little row home type of thing where it's like a corner bar or something next to like a coffee shop exactly i'm going to go grab a coffee i'm going to finish that up i'm going to walk a carles

there you go half and half it where it's like in the morning it's like that place in chestnut hill it's like in the mornings it's a coffee shop at night it's a bar with soft bar in the morning's coffee in the morning's coffee and like the afternoes make the switch over to your cocktail i don't know not that we're part of the business we came up with better ideas in about 10 minutes but it's just it seems like a fucking hail mary and i want it to be successful but that that's tough but anyway a very important thing is said and lindsay already clapped back on instagram all this yeah but i was like look people are going to take jabs and he's i think kyle kind of set this up and this is what he he's he's cognizant of the show

always and he's like you know lindsay takes jabs yeah well you know that's how it's been and like my honest opinion i think she's still embarrassed and like these jabs are more or less just the coping mechanism to get through her embarrassment i was like you know sometimes you just don't have to say anything. Carl even said like on after Lindsay went on her we'll call it an Instagram story rant about the whole thing which she's well within her right to because that's why you're allowed to respond to that like he even said he's like looking back I wish I didn't say that but I was answering a question Kyle asked me a question I answered with what I thought was appropriate and if we look at that in a nutshell it's like it makes sense

sure Carl but like way out the pros and gods of saying that like what you mean like this is not it's such a bad thing to say like just leave a sleeping giant asleep right yeah let's let let it lie that's what they say let a sleeping dog lie but sure don't call it a dog giant don't wake a sleeping giant that's the one don't wake a sleeping giant that is yeah jack in the beanstock yep that's the one so just let it lie dude why why are you pushing the envelope like leave her alone things have been okay that's about as good as you could hope for that's way better than any of us thought it was going to go. Sure.

Let it sleep, man. I don't understand. I thought it was such a weird move. I was like, this has got going to end well for you. But they're checking with Jesse. Like, how are you?

It's been a tough week, man. Like, I was fucking depressed and like, you know, everything was going well. The way explains it, I'm like,

are you in the same reality that we're in? He's like, out of nowhere. Out of nowhere, it blew up. I'm like, out of nowhere. no out of your actions it blew up what are you talking about out of nowhere this is not stunning

to anybody that any of this has happened i thought where we were last week it was dead it was gone and then she's like you know like if we get back together i didn't even know that it was an option i didn't even know that was on the table until she brought it up like what did why would you talking about this is this is where i look at lexie i'm like what the fuck are you doing why are you giving him no chance of this last week and then you go at him we see a conversation where you break up with him you guys are not each other's person you love and you leave and i was so proud i was like fuck yeah big done awesome proud of you lexie do not give him it out do not and by the way do not have this whole conversation over three hours then invite your sister and mom over to

rehash that part yet i can't i i just couldn't hold it anymore that's that's where i was like this is fucked that's where it gets weird her whole family's fucked west sentiment uh i think yeah kind of speaks for all of us in that regard but I just I can't with his explanations he's like you know when I fall for something like it happens quickly and I'm all in I'm like you haven't been all in

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And then we find out where his commitment issues maybe come from because when he was like 18 or 19, his best friend, boinked his girl, which that's tough. And yeah, that could have some ramifications. That could be why you are the way that you are. His hair was awesome in that picture. How sick was his hair? I got to give him credit there.

Like, great. great hair incredible it really was but we get the other side of things lexie sierra and lindsay and lindsay are talking and you know we get more of the same we've had good conversations all week we just need to adjust and we're just going to let go of the communications like what am i going to break up with the guy because he's bad at communicating yeah one of pick pick a reason but yeah could be one of the reasons but like one of the smaller reasons but yeah he's also not communicating about like flirting with other women acting he cheated on you like cheating on you like all of those could be reasons too but she's like I just need to set new boundaries and like

you know you this is where I kind of started to like get more on your team where it's like both of them at this point because she's like you can't like just act single like insane insane stuff I'm like did you hear that the guy you're dating acts single when you're not around that's not a deal breaker like a bump in the road and like that's how they're kind of putting this out there they're like but all couples three weeks or a month at this point like that's that's not long enough go through things and you know this is just one of those speed bumps that we have to get over right guys you guys have been through it before right it's like if you if you have to go to couples therapy in the first month of dating you probably shouldn't be with that person like that's kind of like how i weigh it out it's like that you should if these issues present themselves two years into your relationship or something and you want to figure it out because you guys have built a life for like a a lot together sure you met this person a month ago just walk away Just walk away. I don't know.

He emotionally and physically cheated on you in two separate occasions with two very different people or three in one case. Or potentially four. We don't know what happened in those 37 minutes with Imruil and the other two. And we never will, I don't think. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe that's him rule's big.

Like, fuck you everybody. I'm going to drop this bomb and walk away. I did like that Lexi checks in with Sierra. She's like, well, how are you feeling? Because you're involved in this too. Like, how are you feeling? And she is, well, I think he's still fake and two-faced. But, like, you know, our shit's not your shit.

But, you know, he's touching my arm, like the flip-flopping. And, you know, I'm cool with boundaries, but this back and forth is bullshit. I was like, fair enough. He's straight forward. Yeah, not much else to say there. But we have during this. And this is what brought on, like, the men's emotions and things like that. Because we get a lot of male emotions in this episode.

But West is trying to be better up being open. He's trying to be more vulnerable. things and we find out that his college buddy passed away last season or last year and the anniversary of that was the day before this was filmed so he's going through it a little bit and he's trying to figure out how to be a little bit more emotional we'll get to that in a little bit but just wanted to point that out that's where he's at but the din din crew we got the catch crew they're going to catch k-etc and i believe oaklands was the other one which is like an oyster bar or something i was just focused on catch because of the whole uh remember that whole roney scandal i the same thing dude

i was thinking of those two restaurants what do we call them everyone was like that's not what it's called it's like sorry we don't know some restaurant in tribeca our bad i don't remember what we said yeah i can't remember was it catch catch and uh fuck what was the other one was catch and cask i'd fuck if i don't know i i've blocked out everything from that show to my memory yeah that's fair we need to too many shows to watch we got to make room but let's start with the catch crew actually we'll start with the oakland's crew because they don't really talk about a whole lot you know talk about the baby stuff uh and amanda just i loved this i loved her explanation she's like you know we're not there yet because west asks you know now that you know that kyle's boys are swimming like what's the next

step you guys moving she's like we're not there at all yet and it goes to a confessional she's like look this is the first time i felt like myself in a long time and i want to feel normal and then i think about pregnancy. I think about the emotions involved. I think about postpartum depression. If I'm already depressed and dealing with postpartum depression, like that's not where I want to be. I'm like, totally respect that. 100% makes sense to me. You got to do what you got to do. But we'll do the catch crew now because it's Jesse, Paige, Lindsay, and Kyle. And first of all, let's get this out of the way. I am a private chef. Craft singles fucking rock. Yeah. Craft singles are the best. Yeah, they're great. They're great. They're

fucking 2 a.m. And you rip open a craft single and you shove it in your gullet. Like there's nothing better. I don't know why, but I always think about Ray Fines in the menu when he says, American cheese is the best for a cheeseburger because it doesn't crack. It's like, yeah. Exactly.

And you know, did you know if you throw a craft single like on a, on a skillet or on a pan? It will not lose its shape. It will stay the same. It'll be a square and it'll just get brown. Got to love microplastics. I fucking love craft singles.

I don't care how bad it is. you but we check in with Craig he's good that's always to say on that but uh jesse wants some sierra advice like how do you guys think i should go about this and again bro his evaluation of the situation is frustrating it's not that serious it's like yeah to you because everything's a joke to you try to frame everything is a joke and he's like is she going to expect my accept my apology and i think you know this is kind of serious like at first no she's going to to be really mean to you for a while and rightfully so it's going to take some time that's what she did to west is what jesse says and you know i think it's not fair because like you know it's sad

she just won't be friends with them kyle major growth huge massive massive whoa whoa whoa that's why it's that's why it hurts so bad earlier in the season when he goes after page it's like i know you love page you love sierra you'll stand up for them because they're your wife's best friends and you're going to make sure if somebody slanders them you're going to jump in and stop it and stop it so when you do that i love it when you do other things like you can't do that you don't do that i know this was a this was a great guy on him it was great he's like look you're pitting it all on her and he fucked her over like that's why they're not friends let's not get it twisted he's like yeah i guess you're right it's like dude he is right and kyle wow how

insightful never thought i would hear him say that but we go back to the the other crew and they're talking about west and the fact that he hasn't really talked about this summer i guess that's the catch crew is talking about how west hasn't talked this summer really at all like he's been pretty quiet overall and not just with the sierra stuff but just in general and we go over to lexie checking in on west about his best friend passing away she like i saw your story you know it resonated with her obviously she lost her best friend recently as well so after seeing it she wanted to check in on him and i like that she's like look you know maybe you don't want to cry but at some point crying just letting it all out like that's a strength

and like it makes you feel better. You just like lay it all out there and you're able to walk away from it and kind of breathe a little bit. Look, West is uncomfortable with like heavy, heavy shit. Like, we've seen that. We saw that with how he handled the Sierra thing so poorly. Like he's not capable of like diving into shit

and really opening up about it. So I like that he's trying to here, you know, and he opens up at the table. He's like the night he passed away. I actually went over Sierra's like cried at the edge of her bed for like two hours. So again, there's moments that I'm capable. and in that moment, I want to know how you feel about this. Sierra gets up, she's clearly affected by this, and she gets up and walks away from the table.

How did you feel about that? So this is what I think happens. And obviously, you know, she's fine to do that. I think she was getting emotional and she didn't want him to see that she was emotional. I agree. Yeah. And you can say, you know, it's because of how close and when she goes to her confessional, she talks about their friendship and how close they were and they were there for each other and all those things.

and it's bringing up memories or whatever maybe she's emotional about that it could just be as easy to say as she's emotional hearing the the story and seeing somebody who she still cares about yeah and I think despite all of the things that we've seen this year and all the things that west did to her in the off season she still cares about west I agree knows like deep down like he's a good guy so I think she just simply didn't want him to see that she was getting emotional about this I agree let me just take a step away and obviously that's fine I agree with you that that's kind of my take on it as well but did you see i rewounded to show dev did you see the dude she walks by no oh my god so she's walking out to the bathroom and if you watch this scene there's a guy standing

that she kind of like walks by and he's like staring straight ahead she walks by and he looks to the left so she's on his his right and then when she gets far enough way turns to the right and checks out her ass it's like dude not smooth you're caught you're caught on national tv he didn't see he didn't see the cameras. No, and like, it's so blatant. I'm like, brother. Like, that's a tough look. That's a real tough look, but whatever. Well, look, maybe he did see the cameras and he's like, who the hell was that? Why are they focusing on her? Let me see. Yeah, sure. That's what he was doing. Uh-huh. That's exactly what he was doing. You idiot. But Carl, Carl chimes in as well. Obviously, he has experienced with this and losing his brother. He's like, look, as time goes on, it does get easier.

It's never gone, but it will get easier. And then Sierra returns to the table. In her confessional, she's like, look, he was my friend and it's hard to be reminded. I think this, again, was the major emotion that came from that. It's hard to be reminded how close we were. And, like, West is able to kind of sweep these things and move forward from them. I thought this, this confessional explained a lot for me about how Sierra operates. Yep. Because it seems like she's just like, no, fuck you.

I don't care. I'm over it. Blah, blah, blah. in actuality her head is saying like don't give him the time of day meanwhile her heart's like saying the other thing it's like no like go comfort him like let him back in it's almost like this battle of if I do that and listen to my emotions and want to get involved again I'm going to get hurt again so I'm going to listen to my head and say nope fuck everything so it does kind of paint a picture as to why she

handles things certain ways so I thought that was good insight into like the way she operates. Yeah, I like that she said that instead of just saying, like, I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt. He hurt me so bad. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, no, like, I actually like a little peek into your psyche. Like, what makes you tick? What, what's the reason why you do these things? Because obviously, everybody's going to handle these types of situations completely differently. And then if you don't explain it to us, like we're five years old, then we're going to speculate. Oh, here we go again. She's doing this. No, if you explain it to us, we're going to be like, okay, makes sense.

Always over-explain. Yeah. Because we're idiots. And then we're like, okay, that's what she meant. Got it. But we get back to the house. I always forget, always, all the time until I eat one again, how good muffins are. Oh, dude, muffins rock.

Right? But don't you forget about it until you have one? You're like, fuck, I forgot about muffins. I have one muffin a week. Oh, wow. Okay. So you're, yeah. Muffins are higher than donuts for me.

I love muffins. A great muffin is better than a great donut. Blueberry banana muffin or like a banana mutt muffin, nut muffins. Got it, okay. Banana. I am salivating about muffins right now. I want a muffin. I might make muffins today.

Obviously, like a chocolate shit muffin's great, but if you can get a good, like a blueberry muffin, whoo, nothing like that. Oh, man. I want a muffin. You know what the move is? What's that? You cut that bitch in half, the little butter in the pan, and you toast the flat part.

I need a muffin but his his quote was fucking hysterical he's like oh no I ate the whole muffin first of all the way he eats muffins is insane

like with a fork just fucking eat the muffin but then he's like oh no I'll do is like I'll use a knife to cut it in half or cut it up

especially if like I'm somewhere else like if I'm in public or something I'm not going to pick up the muffin like a cupcake cupcakes also we've talked about before you do the move we saw that in Southern Charm actually but yeah

for a moment often yeah you use a knife cut it in half and then you cut it into a smaller piece pop it in your mouth yeah you got to use your hand at some point man but you know work like he's saying it'll crumble it fell apart but him saying i'm the muffin man made me laugh out loud that was also and this is another thing that i just really love every week we get the behind the scenes like west or jessie or kyle will post something from the weekend and it's just kyle dancing to hansimmer at like two a m staring down that muffin yeah just staring down the muffin and then everybody goes to bed and the muffin love it if you have not gotten drunk or stoned and and danced to hans zimmer by yourself

whilst eating food you're missing out on a very very fun time it's just put on the best of hans zimmer and just vibe you'll be surprised at how many movies you recognize you'd be shocked with how many movies he's done yeah and they're all great but page and sierra you know they're in the morning after and amanda joins i guess page was like drinking tequila And you've seen raw chicken at 1 a.m. Because she burned her hand on a curling iron. Respect the move. Might want to check for salmonella,

but that's neither here nor there. It's funny too because I thought when she said, like I had to go down to get a bottle of tequila, I thought she was dumping it on her curling iron wound. Oh, you thought that it was like that move? Or she's like sanitizing with tequila. I had no idea.

Because I've never really seen Paige in a state where she would wake up at 1.m. to go downstairs and get tequila. No, I mean, like you burn your hand, I guess. I guess, yeah. So if she was drinking it, all the power to her. If she's putting it on her hand, I don't know. That reminds me, remember during, like, peak COVID when they were using, like, alcohol companies were putting out hand sanitizer to keep up with the demand.

And you'd get, like, one that, like, legit smelled like tequila. Oh, yeah. That would make, like, especially, like, me recovery alcoholic. I would smell one that, like, just straight vodka. I'm like, oh, God. Oh, God. It's like. It's like smelling the bottle.

Yeah, it's like a kettle one hand sanitizer. Yeah, I was like, oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah. Just walking around like this. It's like a quervo silver. I swear to God, there was one that was just like, what's the Montezuma? It was like that really, yeah, I don't even know. It was definitely from a tequila company, but I remember distinctly because I remember

the smell that there was one and it was like at a golf course that I played out a bunch during COVID and they had hand sanitizer on the course next to like the water that they weren't Oh, it was Lulu. Oh, it was Lulu. Yeah, yeah. They had hand sanitizer everywhere, and it smelled so goddamn bad. You would put it on your hands, and your hands just smelled for days. Yeah, it just smelled like a bad shot of tequila.

It was disgusting. What a time. Living through the fucking apocalypse. I remember that shit. But anyway, they check in with Sierra leaving the table. She said, look, it was just weird. When you started getting emotions, like, let me just give him some space. Like, I don't want to, I don't want to take away from the moment.

It was kind of how she put it. But they're just talking about it was a hard time with emotions. and she's like, you know, as soon as he found out, he came over to my place. And they asked the question, like, can you ever be friends again? And she's like, I just, I don't know. Like, I don't know if we could ever get there, which I wouldn't be surprised if they get back to a decent place, which is all they really need to be. You know, I feel like these two scenes have shown you her having that reaction that like you said, she does care about this guy. And I know he cares about her.

So I think there's a world where they become friends again. I really do. But we get poolside, West, get Sierra a drink. Love it. And she's like, why is he being so nice to me? This is the funny part. Because it's like, Amanda, you can tell. I think Amanda's getting kind of annoyed with the situation because she's like,

I don't know she is. I think she's just gotten to a point where like they can find the humor in it. Well, it's like, all right, it's not so bad anymore. I'm not going to like, if I make a joke about it, you're not going to be upset about it. West isn't really, well, he shouldn't be upset about it anymore. He shouldn't have been upset about it to begin with because he did it. But I think Amanda's gotten to the point. it's like all right it's kind of funny now like that i think that is it and when i say that

she's annoyed i don't mean she's like oh i think she's more just like we can move past this it's funny now maybe like it's kind of a combination of both but she's like you just haven't received it and he walks over drinks and she's like we reject your sincerity i'm like he's really leading into it i love this but you get the boys with page pages over there talking to jesse and west and kyle and i think carl's over there as well and they're talking about lexy and jesse It's like, well, was this squashed? And they're like, well, it was her. Like, he's like, it was her.

I was like, what was her? What does that mean? I guess she called him. And after listing like all the reasons they shouldn't be together, she's like, well, are we getting back together or not? Like, it's your decision. And he's like, I didn't know what to say. I thought that we were like fully done.

We thought they were fully done. Like, that was what I got from their last conversation. Hope and pray. But that's where you find out that. Obviously, we know next week is like a breaking point. and they're not together anymore and they hate he hates him but like if it happens next great like if it happens again i'm just going to be like enough i don't care now i just like i don't care if they're going to end the summer quote unquote together i'm going to be so annoyed like what

they don't they clearly don't but they could end this summer still together and then break up shortly after that is what i'm saying but like is sierra the breaking point like does lexie when they They seem to focus attention on her next week. Is that what does it where it's like, I can't deal with? Like, I don't know what, if she's cool with it up until now, like, what happens again for this to be like, I'm done? What's the last straw? For Sierra to still be involved in it, like, completely un-in-like, she doesn't want any parts

of it. She's checked out of it at this point. Like, I feel almost like irresponsible even saying that she's the breaking point, but like- No, I don't think it's her fault. No, it's definitely not her fault. She's out of it. She's done with it. She shouldn't be involved anymore.

These psychos are just bringing her back in. to it that's the problem like yeah maybe i don't know i just don't care anymore like it's a bizarre situation and i am like west thinking like it is crazy it's kind of fun to watch but it's crazy i love how crazy it is it's just it's gotten to a point where like i truly don't give a shit anymore and if it's going to bring other people into the house down and then i'm going to be annoyed by it i agree with that but we find out that this is when jessey went over to lexies for three hours they talked and Lexi's mother and sister where they're talking through all of this stuff, talking over their relationship problems.

He's going to couples therapy, group therapy with her and her family. That's fucking weird. And that's what Wes says. Like, I'm sorry, man. Like, this is fucking weird. And you grinded on her for two hours in front of her mom. Like, that's fucking weird. I love that he just exploded.

He's like, I had to get that out. He had a breaking point. He ignored it. We watched West all summer. Just ignore it and try to stay out of it. He recognized that it was weird. weird as hell but he doesn't want any parts of it he's like whatever if jesse's happy i'm happy and ignored all of the red flags for the relationship then he's brought into it he was out with

them the other night like he sees this he watched what happened last week he's like i thought they weren't together now they're back together we saw how happy he was when jesse came in and he was distraught because it looked like it was over he's like dude what the fuck are you doing you've known for four weeks this is fine just move on with your life and we can get back to normal instead it's like no i'm actually going to go back to her i had a six-hour therapy session with her and her family it's like what the fuck yeah west like he's like i hate that he's like i hate that he goes that's weird because it's not normal this shit's weird and i was like good work good work west it is fucking weird jesse's too far gone like jesse is not he says i'm dating her family i was like

broke that's weird you've known her for a month it's been one month and you're going out weekly with her her and her family yeah and like i don't know if this is just how jesse is and we kind of got a different version of jesse last summer that's out of the norm and this is actually closer to like the average jesse but whatever he was last year is never coming back because this is probably closer to what he is now and the fact that he's he was taken aback by west being like dude that's fucking weird that's fuck yeah he's like what do you mean he's like what what do you mean like what do you mean like what are you ever done that in the past never like it's weird bro but Ontario the weight is over the gold standard of online casinos has

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to hit the follow button jesse page and amanda have a little little chit-chat before they go to the beach because jesse wants to have a conversation with sierra and he's like give me some advice like well first and foremost no jokes stop with the joke approach it's not working he's like well you know i'm sorry for what i said at the first party like with you know had i met her first like well were you joking he's like yeah and i'm glad they have evidence to show that he doesn't joke it's not a joke he's like well you said the same thing to Amanda and Craig yeah

then he's like oh no I did there's no way it's like you did we got video evidence of it so clearly and the way this was like I always look for small things this is what showed me like oh yeah you 100% meant that because Amanda's like look Craig and I thought that you were 100%

like Craig thought you were in 100% hook up yeah he's like really you guys thought that's like 100% he's like did Sierra why do you care why are you curious about that yeah that wasn't like a oh fuck everything just clicked like is that why she's mad at me because i let her on do you think i got a show no do you think i had a shot yeah it was a thousand percent a do you do i have a shot with sierra do you think i still have a shot did i have a shot my chance right it's like no like i know like you're probably going to

try to spin it like i was trying to do it from a way of like maybe that added to it like i was leading her on and she was interested and like i heard her emotionally and then i have to apologize for that. That's not what you were doing. You were trying to see if he stole the shot. Yep, 100%. But we get to Beach Day. And it's like two years ago, almost to the day that Lindsay and Carl got engaged and

it comes up that Carl hooked up with someone and Lindsay's not buying it. Not sure why you care, but she doesn't buy it. I was like, that's weird. I love Lindsay. No. Lindsay's the best. Lindsay's the best. Lindsay's the best.

And she's just, it's just like, why? why don't you but i don't but i need proof i need receipts it's like why she's like he barely hooked up with me when we were engaged i don't think he's hooking up with anybody right now yeah all right let's like sheesh but the boys are talking and uh kyle talks about why he wakes up amanda like when he gets home i still don't think it's a good idea i think he's just let her sleep and not do this every time you walk in He's like, I wake up and say, I love you because, like, I just want her to know. And like, I want like connection.

He's like, you know, my sperm is dope. And I wanted her to come in with me. And like, and listen, my sperm is dope. But the funniest part is like, Amanda's listening. She said, did he just say my sperm is dope? And she's like, what are you talking about over there? Like, what the fuck's going on over here? Why do we sit so close to you guys?

And she's like, look, I'm happy that you have good sperm. Kyle, like, I loved that for you. And this is the line that I got, like, mad about. Because Paige is like, oh, he's got the. same problem as Craig. They want to be celebrated all the time. They want attention. Like, oh, you're doing so good.

It's like, oh, should we just switch roles? And this is the whole thing I started the episode out with. And that could be true. If you take this, sure. If you take the sperm testing out of it and you talk about what Kyle's saying. Because when Kyle goes to his confessionals and he's like, you know, it's a new Kyle, a new version of me. I wake her up every night and say, like, I love you.

And I feel like I don't get it back. It's not reciprocated. It's like, I'm right. Like, we just said, maybe don't do that. If that's what she's talking about when Paige is saying that he wants to be celebrated all the time for those little things, yes, I actually do kind of agree with that. Kyle does want recognition for making changes, but there are good changes and there are changes that will prosper in your relationship further down the line. Great, love that. Awesome.

You don't need to have a party for it every time. This, when it comes to the sperm testing, is actually a pretty big deal. He was nervous about it. It seemed like he was anxious about it for weeks. This is an aside. This is actually something worth celebrating. this isn't just I've changed I come home earlier I'm home listening to Hans Zimmer and eating muffins at 2 o'clock while everybody's still out then I come to bed and I tell my wife that I love her can somebody please pat me on the back like I get that part of it this is not that this is an actual thing that we need to celebrate and he didn't feel like he was celebrated for it so I get it I agree with you yeah and like the whole like let's switch roles thing like again it goes back to like we're entering a time now where we're trying to get men to be more open and vulnerable and like feel your feelings and be emotional and it's like when they do it's like oh should we switch roles it's like it's not feminine to have feelings or to want some kind of validation every now and then from your partner i'm not saying you need to roll out the red carpet for every little thing that they do but the occasional like affectionate moment goes a long way guys like dudes need that too you know it's not a gender role thing it's more so like if you love somebody like make them feel love sometimes that's all yeah it just made me sad i was like we're still on a

place where it's like a dude's have too much like feelings or if they feel sad for not being appreciated or something like that in a moment it's like oh pussy it's like no that's not nice i'll focus on the positive here we've seen a conversation similar to this in the past between the two of them one of them gets so butt hurt that they have to walk away and they're crying like amanda walks away crying or kyle cries more yeah Kyle definitely cries more but one of them always walks away crying or upset about something and it didn't happen and it really hasn't happens no into serious conversations and they figured out a way to communicate through it where neither of them gets that pissed off and there's outside factors that come in they'll get pissed off at the

outside factors or upset about the outside factors but when it's just the two of them we're watching them actually have the conversation be able to share their emotions be vulnerable and they don't get about it and it's okay and it actually looks like and i never thought that we'd get here it looks like an actual strong marriage and it's like oh look at that this is great great it's great it's nice to see you know affection can be nice sometimes that's all i'm saying that's all i'm actually have faith in them now so we'll get there i do it i'm not like like to your point i'm not saying every single thing needs a response but like something if he just found out that he's he's fertile like yeah a hug anything just i don't know that that bummed me out

when because i love i really do i think page is amazing but like that plug me out west made another a really funny joke when they were at dinner and they were talking about Kyle's sperm and he's like yeah the doctor picked it up and he's like

it tastes a little bit of a lover boy lemoncello but we get to Jesse and Sierra and you know Jesse leads it off with his apologies don't land for me really ever

does they just don't feel like that heartfelt he's like I'm sorry for saying that I was trying to make you feel better I'm sorry for the arriving first thing it was a mistake i've learned from it i hope you accept my apologies just it just seems too generic like i don't i'm not yeah falling for it but you know sierra goes in and we knew she would like this is how she operates she's like i don't need you to feel bad for me and you know you made me

question everything after that whole interaction with the touching thing because you're saying it was a joke that's the most awkward i felt and you keep sending all these mixed signals like i don't know where we stand you keep faking all these jokes he's like what should i have done like say hey it's up sitting Lexi and we need to take a step back. Yup. Yeah. That, literally that would have solved all of this. It would be in the dog house.

Sierra was like, you could have just texted me and said, hey, we got to like kind of dumb it down a little bit and not flirt because it's affecting my relationship. And if she got it, and again, like we've seen Sierra in situations before, she doesn't want to be embarrassed. You did it in front of everybody. You made a big thing about it. And then everybody starts talking about it. That's what she didn't want to happen.

If you text her, yeah, she's going to be a little upset and probably question it. It might be awkward for a while. It'll be awkward for like a weekend or two. Every time, and I think she does get a bad rap, because when she gets put in these situations and she gets all upset, people get upset that she's upset. It's like, all right, like, why are you so upset about all of this going on? It's like because she was embarrassed in front of everybody else. That's what it really is.

And that's what she doesn't want to happen. If you do it on the side, it would actually be a nice change for her. And again, if she then gets upset about it and she can. carries on for weeks. Then you can be like, all right, Sierra, calm the fuck down. It's not that big of a deal. Let's relax. But I don't think she would do that. I think it would last maybe a weekend of weirdness and then it would be fine.

I think she would understand. And then she'd be like, you were sending me mixed signals and he's got to acknowledge that. But after that they could have been like, all right, let's just clean slate. Let's move on. Yeah. It's a different friendship now, but whatever. It wouldn't have resulted in you being the dog house. It still goes back. It still goes back to Jesse was acting single. He was acting like the relationship

wasn't that big of a deal. She didn't think as that big of a deal because of how Jesse was acting. And then all of a sudden it was like, hey, we can't do this anymore. Like, well, that's because Jesse started it. Jesse initiated all of this. So, yeah. 100%. But, you know, if she ends the conversation with at this point, I don't even care.

I'm over you guys. I'm over you. And I got one week left to care. And then I can fucking move on from this whole thing. And this is what I said a while ago. I do think that Jesse and the whole situation with Jesse has in turn affected any chance of like real reconciliation with West. Because it's a constant reminder of how she felt last. year with West and now Jesse's doing it again

not to the same capacity obviously but it's just like a constant reminder of like fuck these fucking guys in this fucking house. I think that it's doing West and Sierra's friendship of this service as well but yeah let's get this some questions. First one up here from jogging with Jess

do we think Sierra and West are actually right for each other and should get back together because I do now the ship is sailed the ship is sailed but I do I have always liked them together yeah have but no I I think that is, that's a lost cause at this point. From Petravan, should the housemates keep caring about the Jesse Lexi drama?

They are in the perfect spot right now of not really giving a shit, but still addressing it, but not being afraid to say whatever they want to say about it. So I think they're actually in a nice spot with it, believe it. Yeah, they're definitely in a good spot. From Chavon B. Ham, do you think they stopped posting the after show because the bedbugs were team Jesse? I don't know why they stopped. posting the after show the after show abruptly stopped they usually have they they do but like it should still be on uh or there should be some sort of message like hey this is the end of it

and the last one just kind of ended like a normal episode would i'm not really sure why they stopped it i don't know what the hell is going on maybe i don't know maybe something happened to the reunion and they don't want it to get out because they kind of filmed the after show sort of live almost like every other week so i don't know i don't really have an answer for you Yeah. From Diana and Jerry, just ask one from her. No, I did not. From Diana and Jerry, do you think Kyle and Amanda will face the same fate as Peggy and Craig?

No, they're wild. No. No. I don't think, no, because they're married and they seem to be in a good place now. I think they're working through their issues, however they need to. I actually like where they're at. Ooh, this goes to your point a little bit. From Marietta Little, do you think Lexi could be using Jesse to stay relevant

and secure a second season probably i mean it's working i i think that there is some sort of balance of like she is getting a lot off of her chest there's a lot of things that were said to her and i think she's a pretty good point of contact for this like i believe what she's saying about jesse and their relationship i just i think she's going a little overboard and it looks a little like it's allowing for these questions to be asked yeah so i don't know um but i think yeah it's a good strategy, honestly. I'll ask this one because a lot of people have brought it up

from Brie Polo, the Rachey-J, who else is in here asking about it? Kieran McDee, Jennifer Matus, I'm sorry, Matusak, sorry if I mispronounced that.

You're just speed running. Catch a fan. I'm trying my best here, but they're all pretty much asking. and saying, did you hear that Enruel was cut out of the episode? Where is Imrual? Yeah, I don't know what the fuck. We talked about that earlier.

I don't know what's going on with that. That is strange. It's also weird like Gabby. The beach party is Gabby's party. It's Gabby and it's Gabby and it's Gabby's party. And we get Gabby looked confused when she showed up on Saturday morning. She's like, what? Yeah, I don't know what's going on with the edits.

And I'm leaning more towards an editing thing versus they're not bringing anything. But I don't know. I have no idea why they decided to go that direction. It's very strange. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. Well, that's our show.

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