Bros & Shows - Cierra Gets Kicked, Austin and Others Get Dumped (Love Island Ep. 27,28,30 Full Recap)
Episode Date: July 8, 2025What is up Bros?!? Wild WILD week for Love Island. Look, it may not be the season that many expected, but lets not sit here and act like it hasn't been entertaining. In this recap, Cierra gets sent ho...me early due a racist post resurfacing. Between her and Yulissa it is somewhat baffling that production didn't do a better job at vetting these contestants. Nic moves on quickly as he and Olandria couple up. It hardly seems genuine but for the sake of continuity... we'll bite. Amaya Papaya finally found her man in Bryan and my goodness they are cute as a button. The sleeper couple that could rival them however, Pepe and Iris (aka Pepiris) are quickly climbing the ranks as a fan fav. With the departure off 5 bombshells in 1 episode, and 2 more shortly thereafter, this season is more chaotic than expected. America spoke and Chelly and Ace still refuse to listen. The issue now is, how will they land this plane? How will this season end on a high note so that all the turmoil was worth it? Stay tuned as we find out together. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I know I'm new to Love Island, but it appears that this is one of the more chaotic seasons,
of the show's history?
Yeah, we do a lot
of digging into the
production of shows, and
this one is just very clear.
The producers have no idea what's going on.
They have completely lost the island.
They've lost control
of the island. It is
it's entertaining as shit,
but I never know what to expect, and not
because of like the show's structure,
but because of outside
circumstances or just
wacky things happening among the villa, or
America voting weird. I don't know. It's just, it's chaos.
Absolute chaos. But we're in it for the long haul. We got about a little over a week left, I think.
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Bros. and shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brows and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and all
the ever present villa goots welcome back villa goots uh it's nice to be back long long weekends
this show is a daunting task if you fall behind even an episode it is brutal and to try to avoid
spoilers let me just paint a picture for you i go down the shore uh wednesday no episode so i went
to the shore wednesday night thursday i go out you know reasonable night stay off a twitter
don't really want to do anything get home exhausted from being at the beach all day decide i'll just push it to
friday i'll watch thursday night's episode tomorrow that way i'm not too far behind doesn't happen
don't watch friday either saturday that's after sun tonight who cares i go golfing i'm exhausted i don't
watch anything sunday now all of a sudden i am like four hours behind everybody's talking about
things i'm on twitter they're talking about stuff that doesn't even make sense to me this show
if you miss an episode you are lost so quickly i don't feel bad
for you. If you're asking for sympathy,
that's your fault. That is
your fault, sir, for falling back. I fell
behind one, and then I
was smart,
and I got ahead of it. I'm like,
if I don't catch up now,
I'm inevitably going to have to do
what you had to do. Yeah.
And that sounds terrible. So I made
sure that I stayed up to date, and I'm
glad I did, only because
you picked a shitty time to
not watch three episodes. The one
didn't matter. Friday was kind of whatever.
Yeah, Friday was just a kind of a skip through type of episode.
Thursday and Sunday were big.
Yeah, Thursday and Sunday were massive.
And safe to say, I did not avoid any spoilers.
So I already knew what happened to, which made things even weirder.
But I was doing the mental gymnastics of, well, you know, I'm just going to go to the beach tomorrow.
It's just going to be a chill day.
It was so hot at the beach.
I was in the water for like two hours total.
I was at the beach for like three hours.
So that extra hour, I was built Zancastles, just being a great uncle, you know how it goes.
But, yeah, dude, not the type of show you want to get stuck behind.
It is a tall order.
Yeah, so public service announcement to our listeners, don't fall behind on this show.
Stay up to date.
We got what, like you said, a little over a week left.
So lock in, we're almost at the end of this thing.
It's getting so crazy.
I want to say next Sunday is probably the finale.
I think it's the 13th.
There's 37 or 38 episodes, I believe.
even we just finished 30 tonight's 31 so maybe it's on day or tuesday i could be right i'm
it's somewhere in the ballpark of 37 or 38 because the comparison is love island u.k which i
believe is 47 or something crazy yeah and last year um i think i believe it was 37 for love island
usa last year it's 38 for the reunion so um yeah it's going to be a wild week it just also feels like
there's no order at this point like we're looking at the couples you're looking at connections
you're trying to figure out what's going on there's so many people that have been just trying to
play it safe the whole time and they're being rewarded for it so now we're still watching people
there's people going home yeah fine but that's because they had five people go home on thursday
and two more on sunday but there's still a lot of people there that i'm like i'm not really
like genuinely interested in you as a couple i have a few that i'm genuinely interested in as an
individual. But when it comes to the couple mentality, I'm like, eh, whatever. I'm with you to a certain
extent, but I feel like if you look at, you know, like OG couples still together, it's Shelly and
Ace. Like everything else. Yeah. Yeah, everything else is like a crapshoot, which is wild.
I do wonder, and I hope that like this could just be a situation like a, you know, a moon landing.
We never actually get it confirmed. But I wonder if.
I do wonder if there is any truth to Shelly and Ace actually dating before the villa.
Like if they were dating before the villa, the whole thing just gets thrown out of sorts.
If they're not, then it's like, okay, I wish that I hadn't watched this entire season thinking that they were in there.
Yeah.
Somebody commented on one of our posts saying, like, there's no way that Shelley and Ace could have snucked that by NBC for this long, blah, blah, blah.
which I hold on let's just let's just I know I'm not even this isn't your fault yeah thank you let's look at the people that they casted and who they're sending home because NBC didn't do their due diligence and we're going to say oh yeah there's no way they overlooked shelly and ace you know potentially dating for a few weeks months whatever it was when we have video evidence of him wishing her a fucking hell a happy valentine's day so don't I don't want anybody out there telling us there's no way like all of a sudden.
NBC is this gold standard.
We watch Bravo shows where they don't do due diligence
and they force, you know,
dark narratives down our throats all the time.
So, no, let's back off on that one.
I agree.
And that was my point, actually,
was all of these other things are slipping through the cracks,
but they cracked out on Shelley and, like,
no, this is very plausible that these two were dating.
We have more evidence that they actually did date
than we do that they didn't.
The fact that they knew each other,
a huge red flag to begin with.
But look, we could do this all day.
talking logistics, things like that.
We need to jump in because we have a lot of shit to talk about.
And I love that we finally got to see them figure out what America thinks about them.
This is an episode I've been looking forward to.
I, yes, in theory, I've been looking forward to this.
But the timing of those polls ruined everything.
And it created chaos, which you know what, I did one chaos.
And I'm okay with, you know, people like Taylor and Clark.
thinking that America hates them,
but they know exactly why people were voting them low.
It's because of the Elandria situation.
But they put those polls out and they said,
yeah, yeah, this will be used at a later date.
It was used like two days later.
And also it was used after the biggest episode of,
holy shit, I need to switch allegiances.
Yeah.
We've done those polls.
I don't, you know, I'm not comfortable speaking for everyone
because there are a lot of people out there
that are shipping different relationships.
You know, the Nicolandria thing is driving me up a wall.
That's like such a producer.
thing but everything else i'm like i don't agree with you i don't agree with you if we took those polls
after tuesday nights episode give it to us on wednesday when there is no episode let us do the homework
we're going to take it seriously everything's going to be different you're going to have at least one or
two of the big three and shelly uh landria and sierra at the end yep and they didn't have that
so it just wasn't it wasn't really an issue no i agree i think that what they did was
just force like you knew what the vote was going to be and it's it's it's some
such recency bias on that one that it's like, all right, well, does Clark deserve to be in the
solo one at the bottom? No, Clark hasn't really done anything wrong. Like, people are mad because
Taylor picked her over a lander, but Clark, we don't know Clark to be disingenuous by any means.
So, like, no. That sucked for her. And what I will say, what it did was she moved up
substantially in my book. I didn't really have a negative viewpoint on her before that.
I was just kind of like, you know, she's kind of boring.
Yeah.
But the way she handled herself during that whole thing, I was very impressed.
And I thought that she had a good job in the aftermath of not taking it to heart too much,
realizing why that was happening.
Like, it was bullshit.
She didn't deserve to get singled out in the individual thing.
Obviously, the couple's thing, you're toast because people are still getting over the
Elandria stuff.
But when it came to, like, I was surprised that she was the bottom in the individual thing.
That was petty as shit.
Yeah, that was incredibly petty.
And the way that people went through those polls were, I know who I really like.
So I'm going to put them number one, them number two.
And then I'm just going to mix a match until I get the last one.
And then I'm going to put a Clark in there.
That's pretty much what everybody was doing.
I don't remember exactly what I did.
I think I can go back and look at my votes just so I can, you know, talk some sense to myself.
But I did like that the aftermath of that whole situation with, you know, her and Taylor constantly being at the end.
Taylor took the accountability.
He said, look, I feel bad.
I kind of force this on you.
It's my fault.
She said it's not your fault.
It's just a game.
This is what's going to happen.
I thought that both of them came out of that looking a lot better than they did before.
And Taylor, you know, after Tuesday night's performance, we're like, all right, is there going to be a dip back down where he goes back to normal Taylor?
It's like, no, he actually genuinely does seem connected with Clark.
That being said, I can't see them in a million years winning this thing.
No, I don't think so.
They got an uphill battle to get there.
They definitely put themselves in a better spot.
And the more I watch it, and don't worry, guys, Taylor, Andrea is still.
lives i'll get to that at the very end of this whole thing but i'm also going to use my i'm also going
to use logic to get daylandria by the way i like way better than nicolandria i do too especially
when we saw like the end of this most recent episode but oh it tailandria lives i'll get to my
explanation at the end don't worry but using logic to break things down what happened with with taylor
and clark in these last few episodes last two episodes i guess is they put themselves in a much
better spot because it started to become more and more apparent once the emotions leave from
the Taylor Alandria situation and you look at it for what it is like Taylor's playing the game
he found a different connection that he believes in more so he went after that and that's what
everybody wants these people to do but then somebody does it and because you love Alandria
now he's this huge villain so I feel like the dust is starting to settle and that's starting to
become more clear where it's like, okay, we're vilifying this guy for simply doing what the show
wants him to do. That seems kind of dumb. And at the same time, we're throwing this lovely
woman in Clark under the bus because she's associated with it. That seems kind of stupid. And it
seems like we're going against the very basis and premise of what Love Island is. Yeah, we absolutely
are. And I do wish for this specific challenge that there was more fallout with the typical,
what is America seeing that I'm not seeing?
And specifically with people like Shelley and Ace
because they both had themselves at the front of almost every single question.
It was so fucking funny, bro.
It is so funny watching them both just tumble and tumble and tumble and tumble
to the point where Shelley was nine and Clark was 10.
We knew Clark was 10, but Shelley fell all the way the ninth in some of those challenges.
Shelly was 10.
Clark, that's bullshit.
Clark, it's bullshit.
So Ace being eight and nine for pretty much every challenge.
that should be an eye-opener.
And they both said it in their confessionals.
They both talked about, what am I, or, you know,
am I not seeing enough?
Is there things going on behind the scenes?
But then they still came back together.
And I'm like, ah, I wanted you guys to have, like,
at least an episode or two of questioning things.
Like, that's where it starts to get fun when America gets involved in any of the votes.
And I'm using Shelley and Ace as a good example because they are the, you know,
the OG couple.
They've been together the whole time.
But that's when the show gets its best is when there's an OG couple that's been around
forever that thinks that they've got it going on that thinks that they've got a good position
to win maybe at some point then all the sudden america comes in and throws you guys at the bottom
of the list you're like shit is it us is it them do i blame ace do i blame shelly just a little bit
of disarray would have been nice and would have gone a little while and then if you come back to
three episodes and say you know we don't care we really like each other that puts you up a few
notches at my book so that's what i want to see and i feel like we didn't get a whole lot of that
from this challenge it was sort of just like a yeah you can tell the islanders have no idea what
we think because they kept putting amaya in the middle even though she won every fucking challenge
i know like how do you not how do you not figure it out the first one yeah you're like all right
clearly they love her let's put her number one so we get it right i guess there was no like
consequences yeah no but it made no fucking sense that there were the only consequence which is
also strange is that the islanders order which is completely random right they're just like
like we like you better than that person so put them there tired ariana even said it was like
the wee hours of the morning when she was on yeah on saturday but they get it was like two or
three o'clock in the morning and they're like we're done just fucking put anybody anywhere but
then they got good or slimed like that's not fair they should get the loser from america
should get slimed not the one that the islanders pick but that's neither here nor there the
amaya thing was funny to watch every single time they're like yeah like four or five no number
one four or five nope number one again you idiots but to the your shelly and ace point with shelley
specifically and this goes for both of them very little self-awareness between the two of them but
shelly's talking to the camera in a confessional right afterwards she's like what is going on that
i'm not seeing i don't get it america it's like okay shelly let's recap the last 24 to 48 hours what
did you do during that time the mailbox challenge that might have rubbed people the wrong way
that's what pissed me off that she wasn't able to look at herself and be like oh maybe i was in the wrong
in this whole thing and that's why i'm on the bottom she didn't do that and i don't think she's
going to do that no reference to previous challenges no none none at all yeah that's a really
good point i mean there were some people in there i know austin kind of stuck himself at the end for
boyfriend material which was funny he's like yeah it's probably me at the end that's
okay i've done enough here where i people have realized that i'm not good point for material like
there's some self-awareness i haven't seen that too much at least in this villa but yeah a lot of
it i i do just kind of chalk up to they got tired maybe there were some different situations where
it was like all right we can't just slime the same person over and over again let's start mixing it up
let other people get some confetti whatever it might be but yeah they were just completely done with
it yeah and the the other good thing to come out of it other than amaya finally getting her flowers
is Pepe being the leading man, which we've all been there for a while.
We know that this guy's the only real man on the show.
Him and Chris, actually. Chris gets a lot of points in my vote.
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Who's the best you are?
I wish I could spend all day with you instead.
Uh, Dave, you're off mute.
Hey, happens to the best of us.
Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers.
Goldfish have short men.
memories be like goldfish and then the the panning over to gracken's face she's like dude how is this guy
genuine that was so funny but he was like that's what was like when she rolled her eyes i'm like
well you may not have liked what he had to say but he was being genuine when he said even in their
breakup they were like he was so genuine he was comforting he asked if she wanted to hug he didn't just
do the thing where you just go in for the hug like i'm the one who's
hurting you, but I'm also going to be the one to hug you.
He's like, do you want to hug?
We can hug it out right now if you want to.
He's genuine.
There's no other way to look at it.
He's a genuine guy, and I love his confessional going, this is what I wanted.
This was, I was ecstatic because I walked into that, found out that they thought that
I was the most genuine.
That's what I wanted to prove.
I wanted to be honest.
I wanted to be genuine.
We're like, good dude, Pepe.
He, by the way, I was thinking, when he walked in in his bombshell, I think they were
doing like the S&M thing, the latex challenge, whatever the hell they called that thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
he at first i think we were a little harsh on him and jalen we've already you know given jalen our
flowers don't we don't we don't we i've been talked about his hairline for about 20 minutes you talked
about his hairline you talked about his hairline don't let me in i've been team pepe from the junk go back
and listen don't don't someone will i will i will not be going i'm not going to me i don't have time
if we had another episode of this show i'm literally watching it above the screen right like it's
above my screen right now for live for the last episode yeah i'm live recapping um we should start doing
that that would be funny we kind of should we do that for the finale do a live stream
that would be chaos um i don't know if we were capable of that but anyway i felt like yeah
maybe i was a little hard on his hairline he looks so much hotter now dude looks great
is that because he's made changes or is that just because it's like once you learn somebody's
like a good person they become more attractive the latter it's definitely the latter his hair
Yeah, you got it.
Yeah.
When he wears a hat, though, look out, world.
Give the man a hat every day.
He had one.
That backwards hat was a great look.
Pepe look great.
But obviously, we have the vote go down because there's six people.
I was even surprised because I figured, you know, all right, you pick one or two girls to go home, one or two boys to go home.
That's what I thought.
It's like, no, we're going to pick one person to stay here.
and the rest are leaving.
I figured that Taylor was going to get saved.
That was kind of the vibe.
And it's just because he has more friends in the house, obviously.
That's all it is.
It's a popularity contest.
I mean, even if you kind of break it down a little bit more and say,
okay, obviously Austin and Jaden are both up there.
They both seem like they're into their connection.
They can both go home.
It's not like we're saving one of them to make sure that they can continue their connection.
but the other way that you look at it is
TJ who seems to
just be in a good place with Iris
and Iris is bawling her eyes out behind him
I thought that Pepe was going to stand behind TJ
I don't know exactly what was going on
why Pepe decided to stand behind Taylor
that was a little questionable just because
we got a whole scene of
Pepe and TJ just kind of talking about
how nice it is to be friends
and just compliment each other left him right
and then all of a sudden he was behind Taylor so that confused me
but TJ was the only other
person up there that I'm like
Okay, I could see saving him, even though I'm not a huge T.J. fan, I do like Iris a lot, and I like them as a couple because they seem completely unproblematic and no issues there.
So that would work. Taylor, yeah, I guess, you know, from a production standpoint.
He just seemed like the obvious save. Yeah.
But with the T.J. thing, like, here's the thing, looking up there. And I think people ended up kind of liking T.J.
Yeah. Even when he was with, like, I'm glad that him and I was happy.
I don't wish any ill will towards TJ.
What did he bring to the show?
Nothing.
Exactly.
Like, I just, I, I, it, you can't be completely vanilla on this show because that's
fucking boring.
I don't need you to be in the center of everything, but you got to do his big moment was
being a dick in the blindfolded makeout thing where he's like six, five point five.
And, and, and that's really good point.
Yeah.
So again, no ill will.
I wish him all the best in his endeavors, but I just, he did.
have enough umph for me i didn't realize what we were making way for by getting rid of tj now i'm
back on board i am yeah what do you mean what do you mean what do i mean who's gonna pair up with iris
oh right right yeah i was like what my winners right now that's they are they are quite clearly the
front runners at this point that's in the recoupling that we're about to weirdly i've got them i've
I've got Chris and Huda.
Those are my time.
Never thought I'd be here.
Never thought I'd be here, but here I am.
Same.
The Chris and Huda connection.
Huda has climbed her way out of the cellar into the good graces.
And that's what you, when we talk about reality TV, and we do this, obviously, five, six times a week,
there's nothing better than a redemption story and a redemption arc, especially one that is not fabricated and one you didn't see coming, watching her.
Like I said, climb out of the cellar and have this relationship with Chris and watching Chris navigate it because I do truly believe that they just work together because he's so fucking calm all the time.
And she's also, to her credit, and people flamed us like some people in the comments when we were Team Huda, which is ridiculous that you could even be Team Shelly in that situation, but whatever.
her like she has made genuine growth and when you look at her moving with chris now she's not
doing the shit she was doing with jeremiah she's not being overtly sexual she's taking her time
they're having good conversations but the thing that chris does really well is sort of manage her
emotions i don't know if it's just a calming presence or what it is but they're just straight up
cute together bro like it's just a cute couple they really are honestly and you can see chris i think
because this is in the next episode anyway, but, you know, spoiler alert.
Everybody goes home except for Taylor.
So we do lose T.J.
Cracken.
Uh, Jesus.
Jaden.
Austin.
And, and, oh, um, Jesus, Andrina.
Andrina.
Yeah, which I was a little surprised about that one.
I was, it was a lot closer than I thought when the vote came out.
You know, if you watched last year, whenever there were votes where you kept somebody in the house,
whether it was live or whoever.
it seems like the entire house would get behind one person and then it was like all right whatever
this seemed a lot more like i don't want you to be alone like land you're standing behind
austin nobody's going to vote for austin but it's kind of like throwing your vote out like i'll let
other people kind of decide this i got to stay with my friends but yeah so they we lose five which
we needed desperately for just the bedroom alone that place was getting absolutely unhygienic
yeah not only that but like how many toilets do they have
How many showers do they have?
They appear to have two showers per bathroom.
Like for that many people is kind of wild.
It's wild.
But I guess, you know, they have hours and hours to get ready because they're not doing
anything else.
But more so, the kitchen.
The kitchen is a cluster fuck with all of those people.
So get a bunch of people out of that.
They finally figured out a system.
The crepe system is smart.
Yep.
The crepe system is incredible.
Also, they started doing this thing where one person will make a bunch of pancakes and just
put them on plates.
everybody wants pancakes you know last year was avocado toast so happy it's pancakes this year
everybody gets pancakes somebody else is making the bacon boom boom boom we're done everybody's
got some fruit on the plate great it's just a great way to do it so much better um i forget
that's the question though i don't care about anything else right other than breakfast because of
that how long do you think it i never thought about the fact that everyone is making their own
individual eggs individual pancakes individual bacon individual everything that is
ludicrous how long would that take the kitchen must have been active for two and a half hours
i cannot imagine at what point wait i knew these people are dumb at what point did that click
wait a minute wait a minute man i'll make the pancakes and you make all the bacon oh fuck me
that's genius i wonder this has been going on for a little while and that's the actual reason
why Huda only gets one pancake while Shelly gets two pancakes or whatever that situation was.
Ran out.
So maybe they were running out.
And I think it was Chris that was giving her pancakes.
Yeah, Chris gave her two to Shelly.
Yeah.
So when Huda only got one pancake, I think maybe it was just the last pancake.
There was no more.
Hey, you guys got any more batter?
Nope, we're out of batter.
It would have been a very simple answer.
Still the afterthought, though, so it doesn't matter.
That's a good point.
That's a very good point.
Yeah, it's all I'm saying.
Back to Chris and Huda, and I believe this is in the next episode.
know we say goodbye to all of those people we get over it pretty quickly though yeah a lot of yeah
i was too rattled no not too rattled at all um to the point where i forgot that austin and jaden
were even a thing until they're walking out holding hands and like oh yeah okay they like kissed on
after sun i saw too which was like very uncomfortable they just strike me as they're never going to
see each other again and they were like yeah what's uh what's your dream date you guys gonna go on
your first date soon and they're like yeah totally in austin's like i'm going to take her on a yacht and
they're like oh you've got that kind of money and he just kind of like stop talking okay yeah
um but yeah back to back to chris and hooda which you know this is in the next episode which
like you already said friday's episode was kind of just a filler episode somebody said that this could
have just been an email like hey here's what happens uh but chris and hooda do seem genuine and
it's taken a while to get here it's taking a lot of different conversations they're giving
them a lot of screen time, which I appreciate, really trying to convince us like, hey,
these people are real and they do have a real connection.
So you guys can invest in this because we were all a little skeptical, like, hey,
just because we've seen Huda before, but they seem genuine.
I mean, he's down in the dumps talking about basketball and he had a dream and he doesn't
know what he wants to do with the rest of his life.
And she's saying, you know, you don't have to give it up.
I don't believe the analogy of, you know, I miss my daughter, just like you miss basketball
really works.
No, it's not the same thing at all.
Giving up basketball and moving on with his life.
And she's like, well, you know, I can never give up with my daughter.
It's like, correct.
Good.
Good.
That's what we would hope.
It was nice.
It was a sweet sentiment.
And I think he kind of understood where she was coming from.
And they just get each other in a weird way.
When, you know, we're calling out like, that doesn't make any sense.
He's like, no, I know exactly what you mean.
And then he actually explains it.
We're like, okay, you seem to understand each other and that's fine.
That's all that really matters that they get where each other's coming from.
And it seems to work.
What that could also have been is, I'm not, I don't know what his job prospects are after basketball, but that could have also been like a, hey, if I stop playing, I'm unemployed conversation.
Because I don't know he's got lined up afterwards.
And that's not me being a dick.
That's coming from an ex-professional athlete.
And the aftermath of your playing career is a wild, wild time.
A lot of questions.
Yeah.
That's what I did.
And look where we are now.
But seriously, yeah, it's a wild time.
So hopefully he's able to find something that works for him.
But yeah, I actually felt for him in that moment when he's talking about like hanging it up.
Because I was like, oh, man, that shit's hard.
It's a hard thing to deal with.
Yeah, I think the way that he was going about it was probably the nicest little overview.
Like, you know, I have other hobbies that I want to get into.
He didn't really get into what am I going to do for a career, which, you know, is the bigger daunting task.
but you may make some money playing overseas so he's probably got some time to
to wait it out see what he wants to do what his next step is but not to mention he could also
have a social media career after this because of love island i hope so he deserves it like
chris is a good dude i've enjoyed him on the screen he seems like a genuine person i think that
goes a long way because there's a lot of people on the show that i wouldn't say are genuine
you know what speaking of let's get into it first and foremost the fact that zach was as highly
rated as he was during that whole thing baffled me yeah the second part that no he was highly
rated during that because he was paired with amaya and it was before that why him doubled down
we didn't get the whole episode of him actually being a dick to amaya if we saw that he would
have been number 10 he wouldn't have been honestly taylor probably would have vacated his number 10
spot for zach just based off of the way the people were voting like we only had zach up there
because he was paired with amaya and it seems like he liked her and then uh tuesday's episode i think
it was all of a sudden it's like you don't like her at all like what is this and now you're coming
back that's what i was going to say that that's the my product yeah go ahead so disingenuous
and that's what i said from day one i didn't trust this fucking guy but you just said it perfectly like
the minute that he sees amyas in the good graces of america now he's like oh fuck i need to
go talk her again yeah umaya i feel a lot and the way he went about it too was so love bombing and
over the top. And I, like, initially was stoked because Amaya's like, I think that romantic
side of everything is gone, but we'll be best friends, whatever. But he was pouring it on so
thick because he's like, this is how I can stay. I'm going to slither back to Amaya. She's
going to take me back because I'm going to say so many over the top things. And then America's
going to like me. And then I'm going to have a social media career. He's a fucking snake. I'm so
glad that that asshole's gone. Spoiler alert. I needed him off the show. I don't, I hope you're
Right. I hope that the only reason he was highly voted was because of his link with Amaya when they were still good.
He seemed like they were like a good connection.
Like he understood where she was coming from.
It seemed like, you know, her coming on strong was something that he was okay with.
In reality, we have Brian who it really is okay with.
That's that connection I actually believe because Amaya is now stuck in this situation because this was a byproduct of those polls.
Everybody in the villa is looking at Amaya, you know, the girls are.
probably a little threatened because all of a sudden it's like whoa we didn't have her back at all
and everybody's got her in the front we probably look like such assholes and the guys are sitting
there you know maybe my connection isn't strong with this person i'll just bop over to amaya and at least
assure myself a spot in the top three when we get to the end of this whole thing i didn't like that at
all but brian started this before the vote so that's why i feel like his is the most genuine at least
Alon, he's doing it because he wants to stay in the villa.
I don't think it's necessarily a,
I know she's highly sought after and America really loves her.
I want to try to win this thing.
I think it's truly just, he's running out of prospects.
He has tried with a bunch of different people.
Nobody really seems to be interested in him.
Sierra still on the show at this point, but also closed off.
So not really going to work there.
Alon just doesn't have any other choices,
but Zach is doing it for all of the wrong reasons and everybody can see through it.
I know Amaya, she's just so sweet.
She is just the sweetest human in that villa at this point.
She might think it deep down, but she'll never say it.
She will never say, I feel like you're doing this because you just want to win the game.
Or you're faking this because you want to be in a couple with me.
She won't ever say that to his face.
Other people will say that to Amaya's face because they don't care about her feelings.
But she'll never say it because she's just a kind person.
So Zach, I'm so happy he's gone.
He was just, we all knew what he was doing.
You know, this fluorescent white teeth and is just, uh, he's brutal.
And like to prove your point, even after all the shenanigans, Amaya apologized to him
crying for calling him a motherfucker.
It's like, no, stand on that.
He is like, but that's just sweet, sweet Amaya papaya doesn't want to, doesn't want to put
out negativity into the world and pulls it back.
I'm so glad that she has now taken, taking the spot of number one lady in the house.
And watching Brian, too, like that's, I almost got nervous during the recoupling.
I was like, oh, fuck, is she not going to pick him?
I'm glad that she did because he, he was saying that shit before he even started talking to her,
which that's what I look for is like when the dudes are talking to each other.
Yeah.
Because obviously we get their actual feelings, i.e. Austin talking about Amaya way back.
That's where you're going to get their genuine feelings.
They're not trying to play the game.
And he said to multiple people before talking to Amai,
that's what I'm looking for I want that I want the the passion I want the fire I want her
to be into it like all of those different things that was something he was seeking
and then he went to Amaya and told her that before the vote before the like all of that
shit came out no and so he's the only one who came to her defense during the stand-on
business challenge so he did all of those things before anybody knew that Amaya was
going to be the number one person in the villa she's she's by far in away the number
one voted in in the villa at this point he did all of those things well before that so that's why
i say it's genuine i truly hope it is i hope he's not playing her because that would really suck
but i right now i don't see it it looks genuine it looks like a good connection hopefully it can
grow into something because then at least we'll have a clear cut number one and we won't have to
worry about fuck are we going to have enough people that are voting for ace and shelly who i don't want
to win because there's just too many questions are we going to have a bunch of people voting for
Nick and Elandria because they get paired together because of the producers and they just want to win.
Like there's so many people that you can point to, yeah, you know, you could have been one of those
people in the beginning that said Nick and O'Landria need to be together.
It's just like you and Taylor and Elandria, but you at least have some common sense where you'll
stop yourself and say, look, I'm not dumb.
I'm not stupid.
And if it comes to fruition, it's not a bit, it's not a bit, but it's a bit. It's a bit of a bit.
So we're just kind of going down the lane here.
But everybody online, I get scared because there's so many people that are just obsessed with Nick and Alandria.
So many people that are obsessed with Aes and Shelly.
And I'm like, how are we not seeing the same things?
I just questioned it.
So if we get Amaya and Brian, I'm okay with that.
Pepe and Iris, I'm okay with that.
I like Bramaya a lot.
I think that the front runners for me are Bramaya and Papyrus.
Like those two make the most sense to me.
Those two are the most enjoyable to watch.
And those two couples seem to have the realest connection.
And they also, if you look at those two couples, they share the most things in common.
Like Pepe and Iris both went through a similar thing with their person being taken away before they wanted it to happen.
They came into the villa together, too.
Came into the villa together.
It's just so funny because, yeah, well, no, let's not say that.
I don't want to.
Yeah, they always say my bombshell sister.
So, you know, it's just.
Yeah, don't bring up your search history.
Just like bombshell sister.
Bombshell sister, what do you do it in the laundry machine?
You got caught in the dryer again, bombshell sister.
It's getting too real.
This is getting too real.
What was I saying?
Oh, so yeah, let's get back on track here.
With the papyrus, I had the same reaction that they did.
I never even imagined these two together.
But the minute I thought about it, I was like, oh, yeah.
Like, she's the most solid.
I think, just very, very trustworthy, just seems like a good person.
And then with Pepe, it's the same thing.
He's a trustworthy dude.
He's up front about everything.
The moment when he was laying in bed solo and Iris was laying in bed solo,
and he's like, you can come lay here if you want.
And I was like, go to him.
Go to him.
Go to him.
Come on.
But then they just stare at each other in the dark.
I was like, I like this is, I like this a lot.
And then with Bramaya, that one makes a lot of sense because they both want the same things.
So it's, I don't know, that seems the realist to me.
There's too many question marks of Shelley and Ace as we talk about all the time.
And then who else do you really have?
Like the Nicolandria thing, that is, if you don't think that's production, we have had production forced these two together twice.
Yeah.
We had the dinner in the woods.
And now we have them again on the end of the dock.
Am I saying that like, I don't want to see.
be allandria or nick anymore no i actually do enjoy them on the show individually like i think
alandria had a good episode that she's back in my good graces after all that shit went down i
still equate a lot of that to a lot of pent up emotion with the taylor thing it finally came out
i'm not gonna like no i'm not going to completely be out because of that she had a bad episode
but it yeah it happens it wasn't i didn't care as much i supported her actually going after taylor
because yeah me too much frustration built up it was the going after hooda it was the going after hooda it was
the not standing up for a Maya.
It was taking the side of the dudes and ran out situations that didn't really make a whole
lot of sense while still calling other girls out for not being girls' girls.
That part made no sense.
And maybe I can see a way or a world in which she was just doing all of those things because
she was so caught up in her own head about the tail of situation.
That's what I think it was.
I just think it was overwhelming.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe she just didn't have the energy to do stuff for other people.
And we've seen her throughout this whole journey have the energy to help other people.
I mean, we see it even in Friday and Sunday's episode, there's various times, and she sat down with Huda in one of the episodes and just kind of talk through it.
And then they got to say that they love each other.
You see her sit down, you know, even Shelley and Huda sat down next to each other and started talking about it finally after all that shit hit the fan.
So we're back at a good place where people don't hate each other anymore.
It did take a couple of episodes.
But with Elandria, I love her.
I have always loved her.
He was always number one in the house.
It's just that Amaya is so genuine and she blew her out of the water.
And that's not really Alangria's fault.
And I feel like on the flip side, when we're looking at connections, which is the whole point of this show, I'm sorry, but you chased after Taylor for so long when he very clearly had no interest in you.
Maybe it'll turn back around, but there's not going to be, you know, you'll be ecstatic if some way, shape, or form, we get those two together again by the end.
You'll be so happy.
They won't get any votes.
They just simply won't get enough votes to be number one.
I don't care.
It's about love.
No, I know.
votes.
I just don't really see it happening
But you know she got dealt the shitty hands
I mean there's so many random things that happen
And I don't know if you want to just go right into the Sierra thing
Because that's the thing we got to address it
Yeah before we get to the recoupling
We do have to go through the whole Sierra thing
But in this villa so many random things have happened
That people have gone home
And there's all these twists and turns
Because production's giving the viewers questions
And then twisting that question
It's something else that we didn't want
And I saw people on last
saying, did this all start when we just thought it was really funny to break up Huda and Jeremiah?
Yes.
Kind of.
It kind of.
But it's not all our thought.
It's production's fault.
You said it back when that happened.
You said there was a specific vote and you're like, it pissed me off because it's the funny thing to do.
And that's not fun.
Like, it's not fun for America to vote for funny.
No.
We should be taking it somewhat seriously as well.
I know that's, like, dumb to say.
But that's the fear.
It's like, the, is it metaphor?
I'm so brain dead right now.
Analogy.
Jesus Christ.
There you go.
The analogy I used was like when you ask America to name things, like the Bodie
McBoatface bullshit.
Like, anytime you ask a mass group of idiots online to name things or do things, they're
going to do the wrong thing.
So I don't like how much.
How we get a dog as a mayor in some cities.
Exactly.
Like, we don't need that much power because there's too many idiots out here.
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With Sierra and that whole thing.
And like you said, we've had a lot of random things happen this season.
That's why I'm assuming it's the most chaotic season we've had.
And I think a big byproduct of that is the fact
that you've said it all season that we have people that want to be influencers and that's
the driving force behind this season and it's really coming out full now especially when you
have sisters brothers friends running social media accounts while they're on the show now sierra
no longer has somebody running her account because they tapped out after what happened and
what happened her own accounts that'll be interesting i she's in for a fucking shit store when she
logs on for the first time but yeah she tweeted out i'm not going to say the tweet no because it's
very racist so this this was bizarre to me so this i want to paint it in the picture at least how it
in my in my brain how it works when she posted this as a story oh it's a story that's right
deb told me that's a story of january of this or of january of 2024 so she's just a micro
influencer she had i don't know maybe close to 200,000 followers maybe if that at the time she posted
this as a story that somebody screenshot back in 2024 and it just came to light like a week ago
somebody put it out there like oh yeah by the way i forgot that i had this and everyone's like
what the fuck why would she say that she used a slur she she was derogatory she was racist like
all of the things that yelissa was doing she did and love island sat on it for days they knew
about it as soon as we all found out about it
and they sat on it for days trying to deliberate
and figure out what to do and they opted to just
kick her out on Sunday, which is the right move
by the way. Get her to the fucking. That was the correct move. You're going to do
shit like that. You don't deserve to be there.
The fact, that one, it's
less
you know, atrocious on the producers
because
Alyssa did it on multiple podcasts and multiple
situations. The fact that they missed that is
insane to me. Sierra's, I don't think
anybody really knew about except for this one person
or two people that screenshot the story.
years ago so this one coming to light it's like we have to make a move right now we have to get rid of her at least for the show they allowed people to talk about it because how weird would it have been if all the sudden it's like nick is single and then he's just walking around and he's like what am i going to do next i got to figure out what i'm going to do and he just doesn't talk about sierra like no we did have at least like a little bit of closure on it before we moved on which i guess is probably the right move i just don't know it's such an unprecedented event did you notice an
might just be me i think they said you can talk about it but you can't say her name
because he said that was my strongest connection no one said sierra no one's saying her name
on the show they're just referring to her nick was referring to her as his strongest connection
he said my strong i wonder if they can't say her name i do wonder because uh love island i'm
actually going to check real quick right now love island's instagram account has highlights
of every person that's ever been in the villa whether they're or whatever you think it's whack
So they gray them out when they go home.
I wonder, I don't know if they ever got rid of Ulysses, but let's take a peek here.
Boop-de-boboboo.
Oh, they still have Ulysses up there.
So I'm assuming they still have Sarah.
Then Sarah's still be up there as well.
Yeah, Zeros is still up there.
Okay.
So they didn't get rid of that.
But, yeah, they had it for a couple of days.
It was just bizarre.
So I guess they were probably trying to figure out what do we do with the fallout when we
inevitably have to get rid of her, but they still allowed, you know, the whole
week of her being on there which is like you just have to make that call right away and get rid of her
so you are probably on to something though i wonder if they can't say her name i don't think they're
like to say the name never addressed elista because they yeah yeah i think also
the way they did it the same with elissa that's really funny to me because it's just the narrator
like a quick one off like sierra had to leave the villa for personal reasons yeah and we pick up
and then nick's like oh man no and
I don't think zero a hundred.
I'm 4070.
Like,
fuck,
man.
She deserved the same treatment as Alyssa.
Just,
you'll let the villa move on.
The personal reason I felt like was such a cop out.
Like,
oh,
yeah.
I didn't even give on that.
Um,
but there were,
she got removed later in the day because there's clips when you're watching and
everybody's getting ready.
They didn't see her in the background.
You could see her in the background.
She's moving here.
Some people,
which I still haven't heard it,
somebody needs to isolate the audio.
Some people are saying when,
uh,
Alandria and Zach, I believe we're talking, that you could hear her in the background saying, no, you can't do that.
And I'm like, Jesus, Christ.
That's a crazy little story.
But nobody's unable to like, actually, I'll send you to TikTok see if you can hear it because I couldn't hear anything.
So there's just so many different nuances that go on and everybody just kind of moves on.
It's like, okay.
And I love the people online that are like still for whatever reason going after Elandria saying, oh, you're really going to go after it's the hood of people.
you're really going to go after hootah for not being a girl's girl but you're just going to move on
with your best friends man it's like nope we're not doing that seara didn't get voted out
seara got the show yeah yeah and also the only possible way that either of them could stay in the villa
is with each other their nick has no prospects he's not going to have any prospects and the funniest
part about the whole thing he has moved on from sierra instantly he doesn't really care he's
more concerned about how I'm not going to stay here than he is about her getting sent home.
The way that he talks to Alandria is 100% like happy and nervous for the future.
At no point was it really like, oh man, like this is hard.
I'm working through it, but like, thanks for being here.
It's more so like, you know, I still get nervous when I talk to you and like stuff like
that.
It's like.
Yeah.
And that goes to the point in before Sierra gets the boot, I think this is episode 27 or
28 when they're talking and he asks about what closed off means or what she does and in that
moment i'm like you don't want to fucking date her when you leave he's like because she explains
it to him he's like yeah you know i figure it means like when we get out of here like we'll see
what's up what no you you date you're dating yeah you leave here your boyfriend girlfriend but he was
not into that at all it's like there's your real intentions when you leave the villa you've got
five booty calls waiting for you when you get it
home you don't want to fucking date her so his intentions were clear right there i thought that was
blatantly obvious then fast forward to her getting kicked he's not sad he's not sad he's concerned about
how he's going to stay in the building about himself yep he's concerned about himself he's still got a
week left could you imagine how embarrassing it is to go home this late it's like okay but i i just don't
see the connection with the landry i think they're really good friends and they can be friends
there's no romantic connection there at all the people that are going after that i don't get it
just because you thought they were on to something it's all it is in my brain he was never really
that invested in sierra except for the hideaway which by the way nobody's gone to the hideaway since
then which is crazy to me oh wait that's a good i didn't even know that was like a recurring thing
it's supposed to be there's supposed to be challenges where like if you get voted as the best
couple you go to the hideaway which actually might be happening tonight because the vote last night was
for your favorite couple, which I voted without watching.
So I'm one of those people.
What are you going to do?
You can't do much about that.
I am part of the problem.
That is my fault.
Actually, no, to be fair, I stand by it.
I stand by my vote even after watching.
So I'm still right.
What?
Who did you vote for?
I voted for Iris and Pepe.
Oh, yeah, no, you're good.
Yeah.
Iris and Pepe are the clear frontrunners, very closely followed by Bramaya.
Yeah, absolutely.
So watching Nick move with Sierra, he just simply didn't see him that interested.
He seemed more like, uh, yeah, no, I get it.
And Sierra seemed like she was pushing.
I can't even tell if she was interested.
It's just simply that he seems happier with Elandria.
People are mistaking that for, oh, he's really into her.
It's like, no, I think he just wasn't that into Sierra.
And he's friends with Alandria.
We're still not really seeing him in a romantic connection.
So I just can't imagine the two of them winning.
If they do, that would be just the chair.
on top for a bad season.
That would be the Nica Landria crew out there trying to force this.
There's just, and look, as you guys know, if we watch and all of a sudden we see a moment between
them, we're like, oh, shit, like, we'll both admit that.
I just, up until this point, I haven't seen any kind, even when they made out, I'm like,
that doesn't look like, that wasn't hot, no, you know what I mean?
Like, so I don't know.
I don't want them off, especially with a week left.
I enjoy what they've brought to the show.
So I want to see them follow through and just if they want to make this wacky run of production forcing this down our throat, fine.
At least do something interesting with it.
You know, like shake it up somehow.
I'm still waiting for something to happen where it just completely rocks the whole house or the whole villa.
And I haven't seen that.
I don't know what they're going to do.
Like it's crazy to me.
We're finally in a place where connections are starting to click and make sense.
Brian and Amaya make total sense to me.
Iris and Pepe make total sense to me.
I'll even put Nick and Alandria around there, Clark and Taylor, around there, because at least, you know, they're actually like Clark and Taylor together.
I like Clark and Taylor. Clark has really grown on me. She's just, she has a good way of like carrying herself, you know, through all that shit.
Like she could have crashed out so many different ways and so many different times. And she just hasn't. So, you know, I respect the hell out of that.
But we're still at a point where we're not getting a movie night. We're still at a point tonight. I think they're doing a baby challenge, which they've done on Love Island, UK before.
it's pretty much what you think from like home at class you take a baby everybody gets a baby home i don't
hate that actually it's kind of funny it's kind of funny yeah but it just seems like tonight's going to be
like another filler episode where we're just getting that like i don't want a recoupling i don't want
anybody going home again since we've been sending people home left room right but you have to do
something that's going to shake the house again before we end this thing otherwise you made two more
bombshells they need bombshells bomb shells need to come in tonight with a baby that's what i
want not bombshell babies no no no being clear yeah no that would rock the bill actually
they bring in the they bring in the fake baby for home that class yeah you guys actually have to take
care of a baby for tuna god they would not be able to do that none of these people would just step
up and be like i'm the mommy of the house yeah mamacita mamacita but yeah i the only other thing obviously
you know from sunday's episode we get into the recoupling i'm pretty upset
that we finally got a recoupling where the girls get to choose and it seems like it's like we kind of know what you're going to do you know there wasn't any like big dramatic twist there wasn't any situations where you know one of the dudes is being a shithead I mean he thinks that he's got it made but he's going to go home and it's going to be a big moment we just kind of got rid of the the loose ends if you will it's like okay yeah the thing we don't really care about the along yeah Zach and Alon go home like you're not paired with anybody nobody really wants to be with you
You've tried, you failed, go home.
Like, that's pretty much it.
Even when Zach was like giving his speech at the end where he's like,
I just wanted her to be happy.
I'm like, you're just trying to save face in front of America.
That's all it was.
Yes.
He's just trying to save face in front of America.
No, I didn't have anything else.
But, yeah.
So, look, I'm interested to see this is a make or break week.
I think we said that last week.
And it was a really good week.
It really shook the villa.
It set us back up, but this is where you have to land the plane.
You got to bring it home.
It's been a shaky flight.
And I hope you can figure it out.
And yeah, there are extenuating circumstances where I will tell producers like, yeah, you didn't see that one coming.
You're going to tell you?
What?
You're going to tell the producers that?
I already did.
I sent them an email.
Producers at peacock.com.
We have yet to get a return email from anybody we've sent emails to.
but I'm also not getting the
undelivered email back. So
somebody got that. Somebody's reading it
from Shooter McGuder at gmail.com
Hey
you guys are right. I can get past
on this one. Can't see
that one coming. So I'm interested just to see
where it goes. I'm interested to see
mostly, you know, what our fans think, what our
listeners think. I feel weird, call them the fans.
Yeah, I like listeners better.
Yeah. It just seems
like gratuitous, you know? Like, fans.
Like, who are we?
fucking nobody
who are we
nobody
nobody
let's get to some questions
let's see what they have to say
oh my god
I just
I just saw your post for questions
oh yeah
from Ella Lanny
are naked Alandra moving too fast
girl code bro code
have they told anyone that they kissed
I don't think
think really anybody knows that they kissed outside of
oh yeah movie night was going to be like a big that was going to hit a lot harder
that doesn't matter now it doesn't matter at all anymore it just simply doesn't matter i mean
what are taylor and clark like maybe taylor's going to have a leg to stand on and be like oh it's
a little i guess but like no it's kind of it's what do you want them to like what's the point of
this show i feel like the way the couple started out have
like softened what this show is supposed to be what do you want them to do they've also known each other
and kissed and had that whole thing happen where they both got kicked off the show and saved
so i feel like you have a week left you have to move fast what did you want them to do like
i guess we'll see where things go it's like no they have to save each other they're both going
to be out of here sooner than later and sierra got kicked off what do you want nick to do in that
regard like out of respect for her it's like he's still in the
villa and to stay in the villa he has to couple up so and two he wasn't that into sierra to begin
with and that was evident when he said when we leave here we're not like officially dating right
yeah oh my god um do do do from jamie gives is nicolandria the new taylandria for steel
i've been anti nicolandria since before when they when it started to make the round
online when people were talking about it.
I said it didn't make any sense.
It still doesn't make any sense.
No, it still doesn't, but also
I'm going to back you up here, buddy.
I don't care for the question.
That's assuming that Steele has abandoned his morals.
He sticks by his tailandria.
Yeah, I will finish up the, you know what I do?
End of the episode, you'll get my tailandria theory.
That's what keeps people coming back.
I'll hang up and listen.
From Jenna Sofe, are you guys going to watch the spinoff from season six?
I think so.
Yeah, I need to watch.
season six so that I'm caught up on everybody but i'm going to find a really good recap for
steel to watch on youtube so that yeah i'll be caught up but yeah i do believe so um manda k
stanton need the bro's thoughts on nick styling his hair back like elanda the night before
that was the worst look i've seen in the villa and that's saying a lot it's really bad but
i'm not really sticking up for nick here he has been there for like four or five weeks
I'm sure he's tired and just wants to do different shit
because he even had a bandana on at one point
and he looked like Zach
and it's like I think he's just
bored I think he's simply just bored
and just doing different shit
but yeah the slick back did not look good
new it looked terrible absolutely terrible
let's see
a lot of it's just kind of Sierra centric
which we covered I'm going to try to find another one
oh Jazz and A who's your ideal final four
so that's it'll be final four couples obviously we've got bramia and papyrus papyrus nicolandria
will probably be in there and shelly and ace yeah would i would take them before no i mean
me personally i would take uh taylor and clark just because they went through so much shit oh no i'm
not saying who i would want oh it's an ideal final it's ideal you think yeah i would take taylor and clark
over shelly and ace it would also be i would actually
Actually, I put Shelly and A's in and then kick out Nicolandria.
Again, I'm just not, I do too, but that's not going to happen.
No, again, it's who we prefer.
I don't know, actually.
If we have to pick between Nicolandria and Shelley and Ace, I would rather
Nicolandria because I like them both individually.
Yeah, I agree.
I'm just not together, really.
So, yeah, Shelley and Ace, I think that would be the cherry on top to the most unselfaware
couple on the show to be like, we really don't like you.
Or actually, maybe it would be more fun to have them in the final.
for and then they are the least voted for the couple yeah that would be nice that way i think
that would be pretty solid yeah this is a good point here from ken's young production force
feeding us nicolandria again question mark no tweets no movie night terrible season yeah i've enjoyed
i'm not going to say terrible season just because i've enjoyed it i've enjoyed the ride too
it's people wanted to live up the expectations of last year it's just never going to do that it's
going to be different but it it has been just a weird season i'm going to wait until the end to
actually say whether or not i i enjoyed it oh this is a fun one from zoie kudla palais how do you
think the show would have gone if nick picked beldasha oh was that where we went wrong all the way
back then does bell dasha save the show we didn't do anything for that one nick did that bell dasha
would have saved the show she would have been interesting i think that's everything went wrong the
day that Bell Dasha went
home. If Nick had picked her, we wouldn't
be here. Wow,
Nick, his percentage meter was too
fucked up. 80, 20, 30,
70, 20, 80, and
50-50.
There we go.
Yeah, Beldasha was the right call.
Zoe could the Palais just figured out
why this season took a bad turn.
It was the removal
of Beldasha.
We got to the bottom of it.
Nice job, Zub. And we'll do one more
here just to address this uh from liz carbs the producers learn their lesson this season go back
to the old li formula i hope so probably in our of the micro influencers they need to go back to your
standard people i know you know anybody who's hot anymore it's hard to find a hot person who's not
some sort of micro influencer but they exist i promise you they exist pick people that no one knows
and, you know, let their, I guess, let their actions speak for themselves in the villa.
I don't want to hear about them, you know, doing Valentine's Day posts months ago.
I don't want anybody to have access to that, you know?
I agree.
And the unfortunate thing, because of our background in Bravo,
when it comes to producers reading the room and making different choices,
it tends to not happen.
they tend to try to
scramble and rethink it again
and make it even worse.
So I hope that they are able
and I also understand
you're not going to roll out
the same product every season
you're going to change things up.
Yeah.
I hope that they take what worked this year
because there were things that worked
you know,
just because people are bad at things,
but there's things that work.
Take that,
combine it with last season.
Then you have a formula
for a better season next year
for what it's worth
and this may be because
like this is my first run through
of the show.
I think it's good.
I think I can see exactly where they're going wrong.
I can see parts where they're falling short.
But all said and done, it's captured the audience, even if it's to say mean things.
And people are watching.
So I don't know.
It's not a flop by any means.
No, it's not a flop.
You can definitely see where they made stupid choices.
And I hope that the producers of this show, because I will say if next season goes like this season,
as far as like the general reception of it,
they're going to be in a different place
because they're coming off last year,
which is massive.
This season,
there was no way it was going to live up to the expectation.
That was kind of expected.
If you have two clunky ones in a row,
that's where shows start to drop off
as far as your viewership goes.
So hopefully they're able to kind of reconvene,
point them in the right direction.
But I don't think it's fair to say this show sucks.
I think it's still not at all.
It's still incredibly entertaining.
And it's,
it was a point.
television for at least half
of it. Yeah. So
that's enough. You know what I mean? You get
enough of those high rated episodes that you
really have to check in on. You don't want
spoilers. What more do you want
really? Yeah. There's so many episodes.
They can't all be great. So I
just hope that they land the plane, you know?
Just bringing in safely. Let's
get some fun in this last week.
See where we stand next week. And then we'll
decompress before the reunion. I'm assuming
there is fun. Sully this bad boy.
Landed on the Hudson.
Yep.
you know what i mean but oh yeah but uh yeah we'll see what happens everybody stay tuned you can't
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