Bros & Shows - Come To My Window and Get the F#@k Outta My House- RHOBH S12E13+14

Episode Date: August 12, 2022

We have a BravBros MEGA episode! We got two episodes of RHOBH to cover this week but not before we jump into Teresa’s wedding. Kathy makes another questionable remark on Live TV… We touch on the Joe and Melissa feud with Tre and Luis and discuss a new Bravo show coming soon. Capping it all off with major drama with Rinna and the ladies of Beverly Hills. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody. for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one, the only Shooter Magouter. Shoots, how are we tonight? Doing great. We got a lot to dig into. We got a mega episode, as you like to call it. I do. So feeling good, feeling enthused to get into it,

mix it up, see what's going on, and give our thoughts out there. I think everybody's been waiting. Yeah, they're waiting for these sweet, siltry voices to dish out some Beverly Hills. And I miss talking about it last week. you know, I look forward to our little Wednesday night rendezvous. I will say I can officially like declare this an affair because devs down to shore. And I was like, you know what? Maybe I'll invite Shooter over. We can watch it together. Have a little dinner.

Like just, you know, have some bro time. And he was like, no, dude. Like I'm going to have dinner with my, my girlfriend and her dad. And I was like, okay, I'll just, you know, you know, I'm the side chick. I'm the side piece. Yeah, you really are. I mean, honestly, like, you would be an ass. last week, go to vacation, and I felt a little scorned. So you know, I got to take it out some

way. That's how you did it. Yeah, you could stay and watch alone. It was me and Lou sitting on the couch, I mean, which is Lou's great company. How well trained is Lou? Lou's fantastically trained. And I'm going to do the dog thing one more time because Beverly Hills last week, this is my first time getting to talk about it. The fucking dog, Sutton's dog this time, rips up the goddamn sod. Like, up lawn care. You know how expensive that shit is? Especially, I'm assuming California can't be cheap. No, I mean, it's got to be the equivalent of dumping ice into your pool in Dubai, right? Like, and the dog just rips it up and they're chasing him around the yard. The sun's fed up, which I thought was. He's like, oh my God. I was like, yeah,

fuck yeah. Like someone get a hold of these dogs, train them, take care of them. I'm sick of this shit. I don't want to have dog corner every fucking time we have this show, but I will continue to do it to raise awareness of training dogs properly. It is crazy. There is a strong correlation between reality stars and their dogs being poorly trained. And I like to think that these reality stars, yeah, they have their day jobs to an extent. Like maybe they have a retail store, whatever. But for the most part, we usually just see them sitting at home. What are you doing?

Not taking care of your dog. Nope. Or pay somebody. Have fucking, who's the dog whisperer guy? Oh, I forgot. I remember that show. Bruno something or other? I can't remember what his name is.

But yeah. have someone come over and just train your dog the ironic part was Kyle um the ironic part is Kyle when I think Doree comes over to somebody comes over to her house in the most recent episode she's like oh it's a mess in here there's dog trainers there's this I was like there's dog trainers well get your money back because they're not doing a very good job but we'll get into all that later I'm excited we got the the double rob her um but first First and foremost, I want to address, we are adding a second episode every week. We're going to give you guys a little extra brab bros every week, just a little 30-minute

recap of a show that you selected. We did a little TikTok, asked you to comment and like, and lots of you commented and liked. So we have a definitive answer. That's below deck. Yeah, now I am interested to see which franchise we should get into. I know that there's a more, God, this is a pun than I really don't want to make. There's a flagship. And I know there's a couple other ones I was told from my aunt.

I was down at the beach last week as well. I didn't make a big deal about it. You know, I still watch the show on Wednesday night, as I should. But my aunt actually suggested doing below deck down under because that just came out. There's a whole season. And I was told by her, there's a really hot captain. Oh, really? So, I mean, that's right up our alley.

Yeah, yeah. We love hot captains here. So maybe we'll, maybe we'll do that. And I will put a poll out because I don't know if the focus, like people seem to want us to dive into the vaults a little bit. Yeah, and I think that's fine because what that'll do is get people to rewatch. So, I mean, I guess free marketing for Bravo, but yeah. Are you insinuating? We should get like a bump back.

Yeah, I mean, if this works out and all of a sudden, they're like, what the hell happened? Blue Deck has, you know, 10,000 more watchers for season one. Here we are, right here. Yeah, just throw us a little bit. You know, just how about an invitation to BravoCon? Take Chef Rachel's salary and send it over to us. We'll take it. Don't start shit with her.

I'm not going to bitch about Austin. You can just give me the money. Speaking of, I do want to talk about, like, one thing that I think is really funny with the comments. When we have opinions about the vast majority of cast members on any show, if people don't agree with it, they tend to be pretty funny about it. Like, they'll take little jabs and, like, poke fun. I've noticed, though...

And Patricia and Whitney fans, they clap back so hard. Like, they're not happy when you come after Whitney or Patricia. Like, you need to get a sense of humor. They're great. You suck. You know what that is? They must be, like, sitting around talking to their friends about Southern Charm, and they're always the one that defends Whitney and Patricia.

And this is, like, their schick now and it's become their personality. So when they see slander, I don't even really think. I mean, we give them a hard time, but, like, we don't talk about them to an extent. No, mostly because we don't enjoy watching them. No. But, yeah, we get ripped apart for that. It's so funny. It's like everyone else, like, if I talk shit about Austin, like people like, oh, ha, ha, but you know he's trying or whatever.

It's usually pretty lighthearted. Yeah. Yeah. Not Whitney and Patricia's dad's. It's like, you're stupid. They're great. We hate you. Yep.

You know what? We don't need, I mean, we keep listening, but, you know, we don't need those people in our life. Yeah, that's, we don't like that kind of energy. If you don't like our takes, you know, you're free to throw a sarcastic comment. You can put us down a little bit, you know? Sure, make fun of us. We can take it. We can take it.

But, you know, the mean comments, you don't come at me, bro. You got to catch me outside. Come at me, bro, bro. Yeah, yeah, we're from Philly, dude. You don't come at us. You don't want to catch these hands. Yeah. You ever heard of Rocky Balboa?

Let's get into it. We got a lot to cover. so we should start, you know, chipping away at this mountain here. First and foremost, I just wanted to talk. There's a new show, apparently. Girlfriends in Paris. Yeah, I saw that. I didn't look too much into the premise, but...

I would imagine it's about girlfriends in Paris. I guess, but so the one comment that kind of threw me off, I think Bravo put it on their Instagram, it was, you know, these girls went to Paris. I'm like, okay, what do they do in Paris? Like, are they exchange students? Are they, like, I don't know, like, are they going to be American or are they going to be, like, I think they're probably going to be American. I read the bio on one, and she is from the States. She went to the American school in Paris.

She got a pretty impressive resume as far as accolades. She's like she's gone to some pretty big schools, got some degrees, stuff like that. Real degrees or honor degrees? No, actual, no, she's legit. Like, she got some, and I need to look up the schools that she got them from. But, yeah, she's got an impressive resume, so. So that might be what it is. It might just be exchange students that go, or maybe not exchange students, but people who went there.

Yeah, and maybe it's like, you know, these girls are, you know, these strong independent women. They're the girlfriends, like, they're going to show you the dating scene in Paris, but I don't know. I mean, I'm not sure. Sounds a lot like that Netflix show, Emily and Paris. There was comparisons. There was a lot of comparisons being drawn to that. Not that I watched that, but you know. Did you watch it?

No. Um, Dev watched it. I just like to keep up on carnivette. You're so fucking hit. Do some light reading. You're so hit, bro. I will say this, and this is, I saw a brief glimpse of the trailer,

and it was like one of the shock scenes, and someone was throwing a line on somebody or some old trope that we see a lot, and here's what I think is going to become an issue with reality TV and shows like this moving forward from like this generation on. The Housewife franchises that we watched, you know, when they started out, like, that was pretty new. Like, they were doing something that really hadn't been done.

So all the shit you're seeing is genuine. There's, like, real reactions. Sure, they're playing it up for the camera, but they don't have anything to base it off of. So it's all, you know, genuine. And we've seen this with Dubai. We've seen this with, you know, Ultimate Girls trip. Women on the shows now are kind of understanding, like, oh, we need these iconic moments. We need to have these catchphrases.

We need to have these standout moments in the show or else we're not going to be a main storyline. And so I think the problem with these kinds of shows in the future is going to be like getting people to have genuine reactions, not trying to be scripted, not trying to be so on point that they're completely missing the mark. Yeah, and I think a lot of that is really on the producers because they're the ones behind the scenes that are pushing these women into situations that will create drama. so they have to be a little bit better now it's going to suck in you know five 10 years when these housewives that we know now and southern charm summer house like people that we know that are just kind of done with the show obviously they're going to have to infuse some new blood new shows in here and they're trying i mean again dubai's Dubai but you're right like they can't force these situations or else it's going to be stale and kind of annoying let them grow and see how they are are I guess together and then kind of get actual organic drama rather than just forcing it because we have that with housewives like housewives Beverly Hills like these women have known each other forever yeah right so if nothing else they're going to get annoyed with each other just because they see each other all the time and they might not be friends anymore so there's that

component that makes things very raw and very good you throw these new ones out there and you're like all right you need to have that moment and they try and it's just like yeah we've seen that before that's what I'm saying and that's what I'm afraid that there's going to be kind of like you said a stale aspect where it's like you know it's not really doing it so i'll obviously we'll watch it we'll do our due diligence as always as journalists um we have our fucking integrity yeah and we will continue to do so but um moving on from that i think the biggest news this week in all of bravo and this was a major bombshell is the fallout between Joe Gorga, Melissa Gorga, Teresa Judice, and Louis.

So what we know of it is some rumors were brought to light, like days before the wedding, and Melissa and Joe decided not to go. They pulled out last minute. So diving into the rumor, allegedly Laura brought up some previous allegations against Melissa for cheating on Joe. now apparently there was two allegations the one that's gaining the most traction was nick barata yeah and that was the most recent because like on the message boards if you will mostly just twitter people knew about the older allegations but then they didn't realize that there were much more

recent allegations and i guess this is the more recent one yeah and the claim is that marge walked in on them making out at some party or some bar and then the whole situation came out because initially, before the season started, Marge and Lara realized they were going to be on camera together. They wanted to at least make it civil. So they had a conversation in person. It was like a four-hour long conversation, I guess. And Marge brought it to Laura's attention that there were these rumors out there that Melissa had been unfaithful to Joe. Fast forward, major falling out between the two. That talk did not solve anything, I guess. Maybe they were cool after that, something happened where they blows up again.

And that's when we get the text from Marge where she's claiming, you know, this woman's a beast. She's a liar. She's a snake. Now it makes more sense because Marge is like, oh, fuck, I got to cover my tracks. Like I stepped in it. I said too much and now we're not cool. So this might come out.

What a dumb thing to do by Marge, honestly. And like we gave her a little bit of credit last week when we were just trying to figure out the head bitch in charge for Jersey. And we said it had to be Marge because she's the lesser of all evils. But if you're sitting down with someone that you, have bad blood with in the past and you want to sit down and just kind of like clear the air before you're on camera together so it's not terrible. Why in the world are you divulging this kind of sensitive information? Because if it's Marge, you know she's holding on to something

like this as sort of like a press all buttons nuclear bomb. Like if something goes down with Teresa and Melissa takes Teresa's side, boom, do it. Why are you telling somebody that you have bad blood with that's now going to be on the show that wants to pine for a storyline? They made no sense it's a dumb move yeah i i i couldn't believe it when i was reading all of the the backstory about it and like you know she has no issue calling out jennifer aiden about this shit and like her husband's passed but this stays kind of under the radar and the whole point of it was to squash it before the season started there were conversations had between marge between teresa between joe between louis like everyone kind of

talked it out to avoid this scenario Then Marge takes it upon herself to insult Jen again by calling her a drug addict. Jen goes to Danielle, new cast member, drops the Melissa bomb. Danielle confronts Melissa. Now it's out there on TV. Now everything comes to a head. I guess this was the finale. Yeah, it was the finale.

And there were reports that the way that it all went down was between Joe and Louis. Louis was protecting Teresa, which, I mean, all the stories that are coming out, it sounds like Louis is just turning into like a good husband. I think so. I mean, you have to protect Teresa at all times because she's liable to do wherever the fuck she wants it. It could get really messy. But he's protecting her.

Joe apparently charged Louis and they got into a huge brawl and security had to pull them apart. And that's for the season finale of this upcoming season. So that's awesome. Yeah, no, that's, I'm excited to see those two squire off. I'll be honest. And it's, it's a. Joe with the christening going at Joe Judeyce.

Same thing. Charges them, tries to start. a brawl. Now, I don't think this is at a christening. It's a lot funnier at a christening. But, I mean, if this is anything even remotely close to that, I'm excited for that. Yeah, I want to, I'm looking forward to seeing that finale. I'm looking forward to seeing the entire season. And, you know, back to Teresa's wedding, I guess there was a lot of, you know, obviously there's going to be a lot of dirt coming out. People are either trying to smear it or whatever, you know, we could get into her hair, but it would take too long as it's too high. But,

you don't want to climb that mountain so to speak I didn't even get a chuckle yeah that's tough tough crowd but some woman I guess her daughter's friends with Teresa's daughter

and there was a text chain that she sent to some publication or something and it was talking about the actual goings on of the wedding and I guess Teresa was a fucking nightmare like she was late they wouldn't serve dinner until she wouldn't them to serve dinner so it ended up like nobody was eating she would not take any pictures with the vendors like she refused any pictures

with them i'm so surprised at all of these i know right and then it got to the point where it took so long that people left so by the time they did like the farewell shot with the sparklers and everyone's like yeah he's sending them off out of the 250 people there was like 70 people left wow yeah just because she was such like a nightmare and just not like you know she's teresa being teresa yeah i mean i saw the pictures and i guess now that i'm thinking about it all these pictures were during daylight but she did have a good mix of other housewives coming i think fager was there uh derinda was there there was a couple of uh jersey new york Atlanta kind of like a mix like that um so i mean it looks like a good time and it's honestly like a mini bravo con yeah i mean there was a lot of bravo

a face is there. As far as a good time, I don't know. It doesn't sound like it from that text, but it made me so excited for Jersey to come back. And like, I'm genuinely looking forward to it more so than I was before. And I think the main reason is, like, people seem to be getting tired of Teresa's shit. And I've been tired of Teresa's shit for a long time. So I'm excited to see if the tables are actually going to turn this year. I'm excited to see if Melissa takes more of a spotlight and actually like steps up and has a storyline because she's more separated from Teresa this season I'm assuming yeah I'd imagine so and it is funny to kind of like look back at like where how far you and I have come in this show and how many times

we've been right and so far ahead of the curve yeah this is one of them I mean one of the first things the I think we did like a controversial statement or whatever first like TikTok thing was Jersey would be a lot better without Teresa uh-huh people were angry They weren't thrilled. But those same people are still commenting saying, oh, yeah, Teresa's got to go. Yeah, she's a nightmare. Where the hell have you been? We've been here the whole time.

Yeah. Yeah, we've been here the whole time. I mean, we're just calling it out as it is. And this is what you get with a new perspective. That's what we're here for. What did you call? What's your plural of nostradamus? Nostradamai.

We're Nostradamai. Cactus cacti, you know. The English language is a cluster fuck, but it's not that hard to figure out. We love math and we love the English language. That's what we do here. And we just got some breaking news. I guess Kathy Hilton's on Watch What Happens Live right now. Yep.

As we're recording this and Shooter was just checking his phone. She did the celebrity. It was named that celeb. And Andy was showing different pictures of celebrities. And Lizzo popped up and Kathy Hilton said, precious. Oh, too. Dude, she cannot avoid putting her foot in her mouth. I just don't think she gives a shit about digging a hole.

And I'm so excited for what happens on... Whatever the fuck happened in Aspen? I'm so excited for that. Well, she's making it, like, pretty apparent that whatever was said was genuine. And, like, that's fucking brutal. Yeah, I mean, she's... Boo, I don't like her. Yeah, boo, Kathy Hilton.

That sucks. What a shitty answer. Great for TV. I mean, I... Yeah, to a certain extent, I guess, but this is where I have, like, my moral battle is like, is it good for TV? I mean, yeah, it's... You got to throw morals out the window when it comes to the housewife shows, though. Not when it comes to, like, shit like that.

Like, at some point, like, get that, get her off the TV. Like, I don't think that's, I don't know, that sucks. I think you were going to describe her, and I wanted to hear what you said, you said, get that. Get that woman off my screen. Yeah, that's what I'm going to say. There's definitely a few more words probably thrown out there by that. But yeah, a little Bravo breaking news. Do, do, do, do, do, do.

We don't have a soundboard yet. No, I think it's better without a soundboard. I think we just make our own sound effects of our mouth. All right. I'm going to scrub that one. But yeah, no, yeah, I think way better without a soundboard. But that takes us into Southern Charm, which was our main focus last week. Luckily, it's not our main focus this week because not a lot happened.

It was pretty slow. Yeah, this is working out pretty well for us between this and Beverly Hills. Yeah. We take our breaks at the right time. Yeah, we time it out pretty well. Again, ahead of the curve. Yeah, no stradomai. We always know what's happening.

We're like no stradomas, but I mean, the main point to this one, like let's just jump around a little bit. We got Catherine and Austin are, you know, getting their pedicures or doing their nails and all that shit. And they're just kind of like hashing out what's going on, you know, with Catherine and Caleb. And that's just kind of the segue into we finally get to hear from Caleb's mom, like in person. They get to finally have this talk. Which all we've heard this entire time is pretty much Caleb's mom's going to take Catherine's side. Catherine's support. Catherine's the long lost cousin or the sister, if you will.

I mean, it's, I don't know how close she is to the family. But going into it, I was like, poor Caleb's just going to have his heart broken by his mom. And she was like, well, that's not worth it. Yeah, she's not the right girl. And, like, the funny thing is their conversation is the first time since all that shit went down at the party where he was like, you know, I was talking to Naomi and like I shot myself in the foot a little bit because previously his description of that conversation was, oh, Naomi wouldn't shut the fuck up about Catherine. She's a fucking C word, blah, blah, blah. And, like, stood by that, which, you know, obviously he's not going to come entirely clean when he's talking to Catherine. but they're one-on-one in a little flashback and she's like and you just sat there and let her talk shit

because you wanted to be a good guy like woof yeah that's that's a tough one to go by and i really do hope that we get and i assume we will get it the a little standoff with katherine naomi whether leva's the one to come to maybe venita or something and it works its way through the back channels but you kind of need to see katherine find out what Naomi and Caleb were talking about. Yeah, we need to see that come to a head for sure because one, say what you want about

Catherine, okay? Say what you want about that relationship. I know Caleb is being like emotionally abused and like this is a terrible situation he's in. Regardless, like that's not a good move. It's not the right thing to do to talk shit about your girl to somebody that she's feuding with,

regardless of the scenario. Yeah, it's duplicitous as fuck for him to. Ooh, nice word. Thank you. For him to just bounce back and forth and play their drama off of each other because he's probably sitting there like, oh, you know what? I can actually bitch to Naomi because Naomi's not going to go tell Catherine. If I go do this to Madison, if I go do this to maybe, I mean, Austin's getting a pedicure with Catherine. Like he can't really talk to anyone internally and really just sound off. So he does this Naomi. He's like, this will never get back to Catherine. This is great. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense, but at the same time, like...

Oh, yeah, him going back to Catherine and turning it on Naomi and going that far. He could have just been like, oh, yeah, you know, like, she was just asking, like, how we were and what was going on. And she was kind of nice about it. Like, he could have just left it to that and said he just went the opposite. Complete. Trashed her. Yeah, because he panicked. Yeah.

He panicked. And then we see their quote-unquote conversation. And he clearly told her, like, 10% of what was said. He just told her about the things that she was. saying, not the stuff that he was saying, which was driving the conversation. So, yes, that will have to come to a head at some point. And arguably, that could be the reason that they're not together now. Maybe that was... I hope so. I do too. If that's what it took, sure. Catherine deserves to know the truth about that. And I mean, it's not like they're on good terms

as it is. No, it's no rocky spot. So any little thing's just going to push them. This is not a little thing. This is a very large thing. So again, just want to see it unfold on camera. Yeah. That's what we're here. That's why we're here. Watch people's lives crumble on camera. Austin and Catherine, again, getting their pedicure. A good segue was Catherine asking Austin if he was getting any colors on his toes. And he goes, no, no, no, no, I'm not Craig. Flash to Craig.

Craig's got like one or two nails painted. Well, he's doing a mood board for his pillows. Yep. Yeah. And he's hard at work, too. I'll give him that. Hey, I respect the pillow game. I think it's, you know, I love that he pursued his passion,

especially considering that Naomi shit on him. I still love that he is now, like, super successful with it. Yeah. It's such a comeuppance, and, like, it leads into this scene pretty much because Naomi calls him to get coffee, and Craig struggled with this decision. Oh, my God. He was trying so hard. And I do give him the credit because, I mean, you got to think, like, and I think about

this all the time when I'm watching these shows, this footage will come out. So when you're dating somebody, like, Caleb did not think about that at all. when you're dating somebody and you just had a conversation with page talking about yeah i can't do one-on-one with next not going to happen i have to show everything possible to make sure that i can at least talk my way and saying i tried yeah i had to do it this is like a show moment like i did my best and he addresses it later i think he handles the situation really well and we'll get into the conversation a little bit but just his demeanor overall like he's looking over his shoulder Oh, my God.

He's like, I'm getting caught. He's like very jittery dancing around. I don't think God. But she fucking is playing this shit. This is all a game, dude. She orders the dirty chai latte. They don't have it. She ordered that drink because she fucking knew that Craig was going to order that drink.

And Craig calls and says, give me a dirty chai. She goes, oh, I just ordered the same thing. They don't have it. I was like, that's a fucking move. All right. There's number one. Then, you know, she gets there. it's awkward as hell and like she intros with why are you grumpy like you don't talk to like an

ex like that no i mean if it if the conversation that you need to have is so important and it has nothing to do with the two of you or i guess it has something to do with naomi but nothing really to do with craig and craig's just the third party keep it on topic just Craig and that's all craig wants Craig's like why did we have to meet up like what what are we talking about here and she's like so how have you been doing house business house page like when she coming into town like no that's not what we're talking about like enough with the small talk you know that i didn't really want to be here context clues are everything you're not dumb get on with it yeah let's get down to why the fuck you invited me here and put me in jeopardy of getting

in trouble like now i will say one thing craig not a coffee guy not an iced coffee guy either oh i don't trust i'm just throwing this out here i don't trust anyone who doesn't like coffee I actually can I can jump on that platform with you Yeah Like when people say I don't drink coffee I'm like what are you better than me Yeah what

You think you better than me Yeah You're not jittery right now Why your hands not shaking No seriously I mean like there is And there's so many things you can do with coffee And Craig wants none of it

He doesn't want it iced He says later I was more I think that drinks should be hot Yeah but he drinks hot tea every night It doesn't make any sense My issue was more When he's like can we get an iced coffee maker

And I was like bro Just brew that shit into a cup of ice and add more ice it's like Craig went to the school of coffee that Sergio went to the school of anatomy which I caught a glimpse of Dubai tonight no we're not really talking about it but uh Caroline Stanberry told Sergio you got to cut the umbilical cord like we just got married I'm going on a trip with the girls you can't come and he's like what's an umbilical cord oh no and she goes it's you know the cord that's attached from the baby to the mother well wait is that is that a like language barrier it could be a language barrier

possibly, but Stanberry then explains it very specifically and says it's the cord between a mother and a baby, just cut it. And he goes, why would I want to do that? It's like, oh, Serge. Too much soccer, not enough education. But anyway, again, Craig, whatever. I just thought it was weird. Well, the weirdest part is she caps the whole interaction off. She's walking to her car, goes, bye, Craigie. Like, you do not call him Craigie. After you said, let's go out and get drinks have fun like what do you mean like and then when he says like we're still exes at the end of the day she's like you're not serious like you're kidding me right and it's like how is that ridiculous yeah understand he's in a relationship now with somebody else who he seems to like

he's talking about her being the one she's like talking about the different changes she wants to make to the house like right now here let's play this game okay if your page you watch this last week how are you feeling this is such a tough one because i think that watching how he handled it i think that maybe she's not going to be thrilled but at the same time like understanding okay you know what he did try like legitimately and when he was there he wasn't being flirty he wasn't he stood his ground said yo this is not appropriate anymore like this is not okay he made it very clear i think that you give him a pass. I think you say, yep, thank you for handling that as well as you did.

Yeah, you don't have to thank them, but like, just don't cause anything. Yeah, you don't have to thank them, that's for sure. Yeah. But I do think what it comes down to is whether he told Paige, like, right away. That's the question. We don't know. We don't know that. I will say, and Paige, if you're listening, and I'm going to clip this just to see if she will like it, just for you, Paige. Yeah. You guys are cute as fuck. When they're back there, like, sipping their tea and just like rocking in the rocking chairs. I was like, these two are cute as fuck, and I'm here for it. So I'm all all aboard the page and Craig trade.

That's the charm of Southern Charm that we went from Southern. Southern Charmed me, you bastards. Yeah, we went from, we went from Summer House, and we were like, enough of this. I'm tired of this. And now we were dreading it. And now we get Southern Charming. We're like, all right, we're into it. Look at these charming mofos.

This is like the healthiest relationship in all of Bravo. In probably all of Bravo. Yeah, it genuinely seems that way because they both are. are, like, logical about the decisions they're making. They both, like, have real conversations about what makes them comfortable and uncomfortable and respecting boundaries. Even the last week when Craig was pulling off out front of the hotel, and he commented on the girl behind, and he said, oh, yeah, she's really cute. Oh, yeah, and Shep does this whole stupid thing. Thought you didn't look at other girls.

Fuck you. He's like Paige and I appreciate hot people. Yeah, we appreciate hot people. Great. Yeah, it's not a big deal. So, yeah, here's the crown to Paige and Craig. Best couple across Bravo. All of Bravo.

Take your crowd. For right now. It was interesting to see. And like I said, it'll come down to how quickly he told her because, again, with the timeframes, always fucking with me. They could have had this conversation like three weeks before, but it seems like they had the conversation like two days before. Yeah. So who the hell knows? I don't know.

I guess we'll find out at that. If anything comes of that, I hope not. Yeah, I hope not. The main part of it all was the dog wedding at Patricia and Whitney's because Shep's dog mounted, which Patricia said is not a good word, mounted her dog peaches. So we get a Little Craig Peaches wedding. I think that'll be, and that's like the most Patricia possible thing. Oh, for sure. But we also get in that scene, Patricia's got a new butler.

All is well in the world. No, no, no. He makes strings. He's a server. I'm so sorry. He makes drinks at least. Yeah. I mean, Whitney, thank God he can go do nothing now.

Do whatever the fuck he does during the day, nothing. I love that scene, that little flashback of him back to like the vodka, like when he cleaned up the dog piss with vodka. Yeah. Again, the dogs. But then he takes a swig out of it and the dog like tramps off to the other room. He's like, oh, Jesus Christ. It's like, is your life that hard, pal? Is this really that big of an inconvenience?

No, and you see that because him and Shep start talking about each other and they're the same fucking person. Like, I could not with that scene, like, they're fucking going back and forth about, and I will say to Patricia's credit here, she's like, yeah, well, you two are a fucking mess. Like, neither of you were going to get married. Like, I, yeah, I'm going to have a dog wedding. I got to have a marriage somewhere. Right. Because, like, you guys are a joke. And they're both sitting there like, well, you know, like, I want to have fun.

I don't want to look back and have any regrets. It's like, this should be a regret sitting in your mom's house, like, doing nothing except living off your mom's shit, being her butler every day. That should be a regret. That's not a cool thing. I don't care who you are. I don't care if you're like, oh, you know, like that's just how it goes. That's how they live. Like, that's not fun.

That's embarrassing. Like, get the fuck up and go do something. If you have all this money, like, go volunteer. And that takes us into the heart of it. The meat and potatoes, as we like to call it. We're back to the Rob Hub, baby. We got two. episodes for you tonight the first one i thought was much more interesting the second one i thought

was a little snoozy but um i'm excited to be back in beverly hills i missed it i genuinely missed it from last week man again i mean it works out really well for us we take a week off while last week was great this week was a little snoozy as you said so it's good to merge these two together because we can get one good segment out of it and we're not missing anything no no that's what we do here We look at the silver lining. But let's get right into last week's episode. We get to finally meet Sutton's kids. Is this the first time we're seeing them on camera?

No, we've seen them a couple times. I mean, she's been on for a few years. But this year, this is the first time. And they are a little more grown, so they're, like, I guess, aware of the cameras. Yeah, and they just got back from Italy with their dad and new girlfriend of the dad. New girlfriend. New girlfriend of the dad. And I have to say.

Sutton's daughter is a splitting image. Spitting image? Spitting. Spitting image? Damn it. I literally, before I said that, went back and forth, like three times. I was like, spitting, spitting, spitting, spitting. Now I'm going to go to splitting.

Yep. Nope, you're wrong. You know what? Also, my grandmother listens to this and texted me. We fucked up a word like six episodes ago. I can't remember what word it was. And she texted me like, you know that word. Like that was, she was like, you know the word.

That's what we do strong. She said it sounded a word. embarrassing so I apologize for for getting this wrong spitting image sorry to those of you who listened yeah sorry about that sorry gaggy I'll do better um but it was nice to see Sutton interact with them and like you know we've we've had a lot of lonely Sutton episode so I was happy to see her have her people back um and I love that she you know I guess her son wanted to join the army and to his credit He was like, I've lived too comfortably. I want to, like, you know, rough it up a little bit.

And I actually respected that. From what it sounds like, he lives very comfortably with his dad. And obviously, like, Sutton has money. She has a bigger house and things like that. But when he comes to Sutton, Sutton makes him go do things. Like gives him a job, makes him go out in the real world. She sent him to Georgia to work a vending machine job where he was up at 5.10 degree heat. Yeah, like, okay, you want to struggle?

Here you go, buddy. And then he comes back a month later. Like, I'm ready to go to college now. Yeah, it's not military school. I'll go to the Citadel. For a sudden, it's a win because it's, you know, he wants to go straight into the army. She sends him away for a couple of weeks just to go do that, live a little hard. He comes back.

I'll go to college, but I still want a little bit of military influence. So that's fine. I mean, if he wants to do that, that's great for him. A win-win scenario, I guess. Yeah, I mean, it's nice to see someone, you know, a reality star, having a child and making them go do things. Do you remember Sam Greenwood, M.C.A. No.

He was like a boxing champion at the Citadel. Oh, really? Yeah, a little side note there. A little side note there. I'll take that. But I mean, you just oppose it to somebody like Whitney. I'd rather have Sutton's kid. Oh, yeah, without a doubt.

Could go one or two ways. No, I think. Raising them the right way. I agree. You know, like a little tip of the cap to Sutton there. I do, I had some reminders this week of like some of the things I do not like about Sutton. She had some moments. I was like, oh, yeah.

Like, I can't, I've been going fairly easy on her because she's been getting teamed up on and, like, going through it. But, like, there was a couple moments. I'm like, oh, yeah, you're not totally squeaky clean. Like, I forgot. I had blinders. I had Sutton blinders on for a little bit. But my eyes are opened again a little.

But then, like, we move on from there. It's, um, we had a little conversation between Garcel and Dorit. But the most interesting thing in this interaction for me was the way that she took the, comment from Erica about Sutton being a liability. Garcel took it as a personal dig to her saying, oh, you think that I can't take care of myself. Like Sutton's a liability. She's going to drag me down because I can't handle my own shit.

And I didn't even look at it that way. I was like, actually, that's pretty pointed. That's very right. Yeah. And having that angle of it now, I was like, oh, like, yeah, you kind of get dragged here from Erica because you're being a good friend. like you're standing by somebody even if she's being an idiot at times hoping to resolve the situation as she normally does to like so people can understand like how Sutton operates so like

maybe she wasn't being like this or you know what maybe she fucked up let's give her another chance because all of you fuck up all the time yep but you brush it under the rug almost instantly but we harbor this shit for Sutton and I mean this is like this is essentially why I love Garcell and we're going to say it here I think you sort of agree with this as well we're Garcel stands. She's the new housewife that we can fully get behind because I've supported pretty much everything that she said and done the entire season. Yeah, and she's not irrational about it.

And she's just so perceptive, like these women can say one thing and then there's an undertone, like a subtle personal dig and Garcel doesn't let that shit go. She's very perceptive. She sees that right away and she takes offense to it, rightfully so. Whereas, you know, I mean, obviously somebody like Sutton on the other end. into the spectrum just kind of lets everything go and doesn't really hear what you're saying and just apologizes and whatever she will harbor that she doesn't come right out she takes a moment she was like it didn't even hit me until that night when I like was about to go to bed and I was like oh

that's what she means yeah and you see that she actually analyzes and processes she takes the time to think about it and think things through and then think about what she wants to do next which is I mean I don't think Doreet's the best person to talk to about this but she goes to talk to Doreet about it and that Dorete's not very supportive in any way but you can tell that like garcell's starting to understand everything and like looking at things in a different light than everybody else is and she has no qualms with telling us about it which is great because we nobody else caught it no nobody else was talking about it and then when she brought it up I was like oh yeah no you're not wrong but we get to like this major major scene this is kind of the caveat for the whole explosion later is the lunch between Rina and Sutton that is a seemingly there to like squash this beef finally you know get past sutton calling out harry hamlin and rina on watch what happens live it goes really well other than renna was saying i like to torture you was wild yeah other than that stuff that she sees no problem with it well you know i like to torture

you and it's like not in a playful way let me back pedal let me back pedal um that was not cool no no the way she was talking to her was very condescending in those matters i more meant it was it went well because it seemed like it was squashed yep i hated that renna ordered her steak frets well done once again we have a well done from renna and boo but the sentiment was that they're cool now or at least like are working towards being better that's the thing with sutton i feel like when she gets in these conversations she will take the abuse like the commentary that comes along with it. She does.

As long as the end of it is, okay, this is squashed. Yeah, now we're cool. And like, like, to your point, yeah, like, I like to torture you sometimes. And, like, if you couldn't take it, I don't think I would do it. But at the same time, like, maybe you shouldn't do that period. Like, just because she pisses you off sometimes. Well, Renna, you piss off a lot of people, a lot of the time. And this actually led me to like a little epiphany where, you know, Sutton was saying,

like, yeah, like people always say like, oh, you know, or I always say to people, like, I like Rina and people go, you do. And that made me, like, rethink everything about Housewives and all of the franchises. So in our world, we see certain women as being more well liked than the other ones, but that's only within this group. Like, what is the word about town? What do everybody think? Are these cool women? Like, do people actually like any of them?

That's a good question. You know what I mean? Like, that completely, like, blew my mind. I was like, whoa. And we get a little bit of that. And while I don't want to say like the supervisors or the administrative help from the charity is a good poll. But like the other people that are at the charity event for the second episode in the late parts, you see their reactions to these women just like yelling at each other. You're like, oh my God.

I'm so happy they're here. Yeah. Like, and you're right. Like I wonder what we hear something like in the beginning of the season where they're talking about Crystal and like her friends or lack thereof now. Yeah, and her, like the rumors about how. The rumors throughout Beverly Hills. Like, I wonder, they probably all hate them. That's what I'm saying.

And, like, I'd never thought of it from that perspective. And I was like, oh, like, they might all suck. Like, we don't know what the, what their reputation is. And it took it a step further because I was also, when Renna is having a confessional at one point and she just did something embarrassing, she still comments on it from a perspective of this is why I was doing that and this is why I pissed me off. Like, I'm still right. And that made me think about, like, how all of these women can go on and, like, watch themselves.

Like, so this is after the fact. Like, this is after the entire season. And they, because they do the confessionals at the end. And they can, like, talk about an instant that happened. That's clearly embarrassing. You've clearly had time to think about it in a different light. And you're still going to sit there and defend it because they have to. Like, I understand, like, they are going to push their own narrative that they're the good

guy because it's their confessional. but at the same time like I couldn't imagine someone bringing up like a producer saying oh you remember when this happened and this is months after do you remember when you did this and being like oh yeah well this is why and she's wrong after you know that you were wrong yeah like that was another eye opening moment for me so I had a lot of epiphanies well especially after and I guess it gets really tough when they do these confessionals because they could go to the confessional and completely stand behind themselves and be like oh yeah that's why I did this but between the the end of the season and when that happened, that confessional shows up, they apologize for those things like six or seven times and then go back to the beef and then apologize. And it's like, that's got to be really hard to keep a handle. Yeah. And then to their credit, though, when they do the confessional about the apology, they're like, yeah, you know, we squashed everything's cool.

It's like, but you just said that like she sucked because of this and now you're saying you're, I don't know, obviously they have to do that to like comment on the show without dragging themselves. Yeah. But it definitely gets convoluted. Yeah. But we get to the main event, that's the Rinna Rosei, and, you know, they're taste testing different kinds. They got like a brute.

They got a rosé, and I think they had one more. Some other rosé. Was it another just rosé? It was different. And Harry Hamlin was there, and they have like a whole blowjob talk, which I thought he was really funny. I thought he handled it pretty well other than like his lack of response for an extended period of time. Like, oh, man, I think that maybe he was uncomfortable. What I did notice about Harry Hamlin.

is we have a very similar bracelet set up. Oh, my God. And I was, what do you mean? If I have a similar setup on my wrist to Harry fucking Hamlin, like, that man's charming as shit. And I want to be the kind of person. Like, I appreciated, like, they're sitting there. They're wine tasting.

They're like, you know, shooting the shit. Well, you can tell that he is like, he's going to be the business person behind the whole thing where Rinna's going to be the face. She's going to do the marketing. She's going to do all the other things that she needs to do. he's the one who's talking with the other investor about all right so this one needs a little bit of work okay let's do this let's do this let's do that i'm going to go for a walk when he was done that's what i say we'll leave you guys with the bottles have fun i'm going to go for a walk and get

the fuck out of here that's what i say i want to be that kind of guy that like you could have like a little wine taste and then go for a stroll by yourself and just like be introspective i don't know i spent a lot of time thinking about there i have just like going on a walk by himself i don't I think I may have, like, missed the next couple of, like, minutes because I couldn't stop thinking about, like, I'm just going to go for a walk. I'm like, what was he wearing? Yeah. Is he going to get changed? No, he's just going to go for, like, a stroll after a wine taste.

I thought it's just like, you know, he's a captivating guy. Say what you will, but my brace. Yeah, I have no issues with the Harry House. My bracelet buddy is a captivating guy. God. He is now my bracelet buddy. He's not your bracelet, buddy. He's my bracelet buddy.

He's my bracelet buddy. But everything, I mean... It's seemingly going okay, like we do get, we didn't have any crystal this episode, really. We did have them discussing her eating disorder and just how, and how she's being affected by it. And, you know, they bring up the fact that she's purging. And it seems like she's trying to either ask for help or, you know, she's being more vocal about it, which good for her she's talking about it. And they're just discussing whether or not she needs help.

now this is where once again I run into an issue with this group and it's similar with the alcohol stuff that we see more in the next episode that I'll get to with Erica but they take a weird approach when they when it comes to helping people and we got a glimpse of next week's episode where Crystal's like I feel like they're all like coming at me or like she feels almost threatened by them trying to help and that's because they think she should I think she's right like the way that they talk about it isn't you can get it you can even when you're watching on TV you can catch like the vibes of how they're talking it's almost condescending in a way where it's like she needs to do this she needs to get help like all right you're discrediting to her then talk to her one but when you talk to her don't go in there like making demands about it like you need to understand from her perspective on it like if it was that simple you know millions of people wouldn't struggle with it and that's the same with any kind of addiction or affliction like you know understanding their perspective and not coming in too strong where you seem like you know better and they need to listen to you because you're right you can't come into it with that kind of aggression because you're going to inadvertently push them further away well they did at least do one thing correct they did point out that erika was entirely wrong in the way they did talking to christop which i thought was good because that immediately pushes erika down because if they don't do that erika is going to chime in and have her thoughts on it we heard your thoughts

they're wrong. Yep. Shut up and listen. But, I mean, you get somebody else talking about it like Kyle or whoever. And I don't know. I just, it feels dirty. And I agreed with like Sutton sitting there, didn't want to talk about it. She even said at one point she's like, maybe we should just talk to Crystal about it.

Yeah. And she didn't want to talk to about it because she hadn't had that conversation yet, which is very self-aware of something. Very fair. Yeah, very true. Like you shouldn't comment on unless you've had a one-on-one with her. And even then, like, understand that while, of course, this is going to come up amongst the group, like this is something, like a topic that's going to be discussed, there's a way to go about it in which these ladies don't seem to comprehend.

With any situation. No. Yeah, for sure. And like, the fact that Sutton does where she's like, look, timeout, like maybe we shouldn't be doing this. Like, she's not even here. And I haven't had the conversation. I'm not in this one. I'm out.

And Garcell's also asking the questions, like, did anyone talk to her about it? Right. Did anyone see how she feels about it? Maybe she is getting help. Like, we don't know. Let's talk to her about it. And then, I mean, you get the other side with Sutton saying, let's not talk about it. I haven't had the discussion with her yet.

I think it's unfair to do this right now. Who's the only two, like, sense of reason? Everybody else is like yelling over each other about what they think should happen and doing the empathy thing where they're like, my daughter had it or, you know, I struggled with it earlier in my life. And it's like, no, we don't want to hear that right now. Like, Crystal's not here. You're not having a productive conversation. you're gossiping. Yeah, and like that's the big point is that I understand bringing up your past experiences

with it to relate to it, but she's not there to relate, one, two, every case is different. And when it comes to any one of these disorders or afflictions or addictions, whatever the case may be, like no one individual is the same, like the trauma they've gone through to get to that point is different, their handling of the situation. will be different in a lot of ways and how they're going to work through it is going to be different. Like, there's, there's so many paths you have to be concerned about. So for you to talk, like, you're the end-all, be-all expert on it is, one, dangerous and two,

just, you know, ignorant. Yeah. But moving on from that, we will see that come to some kind of head next week where Crystal addresses it, so I'm glad that she is going to have a voice for that. I have found her to be more personal. like she seems to be really connecting with her screen time recently and I appreciate that especially with her going through this so we'll see what happens but um we have the like climax at this episode and the ladies are all sitting there and this beef that we thought was squashed with renna now comes

back up well it does before we get the beef with rina we get a little bit of conniving by garcell with erika oh right yeah so and I thought this was an awesome play. And I'm not just saying this as a Garcel stand. I just think overall she knows how people tick now and it's working so well. And when she took Erica aside and said, hey, let's talk about this because I had some time to think about it. What did you mean? Erica doubles down. Sutton's a liability to you and you socially. Because you always have to clean up her mess. Yep. And Garcell sits there and, you know, she explains her aside of it, not too in depth, nothing crazy. But she still wants to talk to Eric about it because it bothered her.

before she walks over there she says something to Sutton hey just to let you know this is what happens playing her cards correctly because at the end of her conversation she told Sutton before they went over to have the conversation she told Sutton before Garcel walked over with Erica right and on her way back she said do you want to bring this up right now

and talk to Sutton about it oh yeah absolutely not no she said why would we do that too fucking bad because I already told Sutton and we're going to do it right now anyway because that's the way to do it do it in front of everyone enough of this like side by side conversations nothing gets accomplished let it all out in front of everyone and i mean sutton was correct and sutton knew what she was going to do she had some time to think on it which is something that sudden usually doesn't get she had some time to think on it and she went right back at erika and erika really didn't know what to do no she was

kind of caught off guard yeah because she was like i i do think you're a liability that's all she says and that pokes the bear with renna yeah because she's lit and she starts going in on sutton and it's like sutton's like well you had a totally different tune at lunch so now i'm confused and renna starts screaming like you have like there's a reason you're doing this and i need to know what the fucking reason and blah blah blah and sutton's like i do like you like i do like you and then renna mocks her and goes i do like you i was like whoa whoa i get to do do the ad do like you don't get to do that when she's being serious and bringing up the fact that you are going completely back on everything you had said a day ago yep and to sutton's credit

she brings it up you're doing this because you have an audience now you've got your little buddies you got your click to like stand behind you she and you do yeah you literally like this is the epitome of that you're literally saying two different things within 24 hours you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. That is actually what you're doing. She's just telling you what's going on. And you have the audacity to mock her and then tell her to get the fuck out of your house. Well, and Sutton was entirely correct when we went to her confessional when she said, you'd have to get an exorcist to try to get the soap opera out of Renner. And it's so true because again, she waited for her audience. She was screaming at like the wrong moments,

very soap opera. She was going off tangent. She was saying that she was drunk. and it was messy to watch and Sutton could have just sat there and been like, I don't really get it. And everybody else, you could look around, Sheree, Garcel, Doreet wasn't there. But even Erica, to an extent, was just like not smiling and looking at Rinalike. No, she was making like, oh my God face. Yeah, she was like, this is probably not good. No, I think that Erica was thrilled. I think every minute of that she enjoyed.

I don't think so. She did not have that. Like, Erica wears her emotions on her face very well. And she didn't smirk. She didn't do anything. She was very caught off guard by the whole thing and didn't get it. I don't know. I don't think I do with you on that one.

I think we're warming up and we're going to get to that point. You think. I still think we're still going to get an Erica Sutton genuine moment where Erica actually sticks up for Sutton. For those of you that don't know, and hopefully you do because you've gone back and listened to all these episodes. But Shooter made what was once an outrageous claim that this season would culminate with Erica, coming to Sutton's defense against some of the women in the group. Now we're seeing some things start to take shape. There have been some moments between the two that could point to that.

There's also been stuff pointing away from that. Yeah, we were getting very warm around Mexico. Yeah, until this week was a little shaky. I think it's there. If that happens, we will change the name of this podcast to Nostradamai. Yeah. We have to. But that takes us into episode two.

um again not like the liveliest episode ever uh we got some pretty decent blowouts at the end but like the in between time was pretty slow and um we can skip right to we're at like sutton store and crystals back this week um and they're going over kind of what the women were talking about crystal is made aware by renna i think that they were discussing her eating disorder and um this is where i caught a glimpse of old Sutton a little bit where now she claims that they may have not been genuine when they were discussing their feelings over Crystal's eating disorder which is true which is true to an extent yeah I don't think that they don't care I think that they're going about it the wrong way yeah and I did actually think that Sutton shouldn't have done that

she should have just said hey you know we were talking about it yesterday i know you missed out i felt kind of weird because you weren't there and also i didn't know so i figured i'd sit down and talk she didn't need to try to uncover the feelings of the other girls she could have just left it at that but i thought she was being a little vindictive again coming off of being screamed at and told to get the fuck out of the house right so yeah i understand where she's coming from was it a good move probably not to insinuate the the loose feelings of the girls that were being talked about, but, you know, at the same time, not the best move by Sutton. No, it wasn't. And like, yeah, you can only get dragged for so long before you clap back a little

bit, but I just thought that was a bad time to do it. And again, I was like, okay, like she's still in there. There's something that I used to hate is, she's still there. Well, this is the thing is, like, I think that commonly everybody socially understands when situations like this, like Crystal's disorder, you tread lightly. You do. Sutton doesn't get that, social keys so she doesn't tread lightly no she goes yeah that that's a good point so i think her intentions were fine like she wanted to know because she didn't know so she wanted to give crystal the opportunity to talk about it but at the same time yet you don't try to insinuate any sort of like issues yeah like don't speak on their feeling just like to sutton's point like they're not

there to either defend themselves or give any input so it's like well you might be right here Like, Crystal's dealing with enough shit to not be concerned with maybe how these women are approaching this. I don't know. It's such a touchy subject that it's hard to say what's right or wrong. I will say the way that Sutton approached it was wrong. Yeah. We get a quick cut to Asher on the piano. And this brings up a really good theory that's out there.

And I think we've touched on it previously, like briefly. People claim that Diana went on the show to promote Asher's singing career. I like that. And I, yeah, what are your thoughts? I can get behind. I thought it was funny because you see Diana like walking down our steps and she goes, I love it when Asher doesn't know that I'm here because I get to just like appreciate him and watch him sing. Eye roll.

Fucking, why do you think the cameras are there? Not for you. No. Cameras are rolling. Yeah. Diana's here. That's all bullshit. That's such a good point.

Like, duh, dumbass. Like, yeah, there's a camera in the house. They're not filming you, Asher, and your fucking glasses, do it. Oh, yeah. But I will say, like, where I stood at the Christmas party was, I thought it was fine. You know, he's sung a song. He was pretty good. I was surprised at how good he was.

This was just like, ugh. Yeah, this. Oh, so now you're cringing? Yeah, now I'm cringing. But the scenario is the same. He's still a fantastic singer. And in this case, at least he's not holding people hostage with his performance. He didn't have an audience.

He didn't have a reason to do this. He was practicing or whatever. But by the way, I think that whole scene was. Anna goes, Asher, start playing something. I'm going to go upstairs. You guys go over there and film this scene. I'm going to come downstairs and sit on the stairs. Yep.

And just regale over my wonderful husband, who then she goes in to say, like, he's just a child. I was like, oh, that was bad. That was really bad. Gross, dude. You're fucking a child. She's, that was just, it was brutal. I was like, that's the worst thing you could say. The age gap is already pretty significant.

And we've talked about that. before like I don't care if you're an older woman and you want to date a younger dude good good for you go get him like I could give a shit but in this instance like don't point out that he's a child when he's that much younger like that just makes it weird yeah but they talk about I guess they're going to try to have another kid um so that their current kid doesn't grow up like an only child because her other children are so much older um and I do think that she is actually honest when she says that like I just love babies like I have not seen anything on camera that points to her not being a good mom.

Like, I do think that, and it could all be for show. Like, we don't know. No, but I- But she seems to be genuinely like a good mother to her children. Yeah, and I do think it's very genuine. That's a good word to put this. And to be fair, like really the only moments that I've liked Diana on screen were with her family, like with her kids, with her baby, like talking about how she wants

a bigger family and she wants to keep going because of how she grew up. Those are the genuine moments that I'm like, okay, maybe she's not a terrible person. No, she's still a terrible person. I think she's probably still a terrible person. But those are the best moments for me, like the most, I guess, likable moments for Diana. Yeah, I agree. And I'm not by any means saying I like Diana, but like you can't fault her on those scenes. Like she seems, those seem to really be how she feels or she's just a tremendous actress.

And, like, she might be. I don't know. You know, we talked about earlier how I think that, you know, certain things are being handled poorly. And we get to a scene where Erica and Kyle are, they have like a guy coming and stretch them. She kind of starts to get into after the fact, after the Dong's Unlimited comment, which I thought was laugh out loud funny. I actually chuckled. Lou looked at me like I was nuts. I thought that shit was hysterical.

Like, you just, it's a website called Gongs Unlimited. She goes, like, dead serious goes, don't even, like, miss a step. And I don't think realized it until Erica's like, what, gongs, gee, like, you, you sicko. Only Erica's like, that sounds like some of the porn I watch. Yeah. But she had that comment before, like, earlier in the episode or maybe in the last episode where she's like, Dick is free. Yeah, I think I was last episode. Oh, that shit was funny.

But anyway, they get to talking about Erica's drinking again. And Erica, up until this point, has been receptive to some of the conversations. Like when Garcell talked to her a little bit, when they went out, and when Renna had that sit down with her, which was, you know, actually like a pretty good moment, I thought. But this is a totally different stance on it. Kyle brings it up and Erica takes the stance of like, oh, Garcell's being vindictive with this. Like, she's actually trying to put me down with this,

not trying to help. And Kyle being Kyle feeds into it. And she's just like, oh, yeah, really? Like doesn't try to say like, oh, I mean, we were all kind of worried about you. Like, and again, this takes us back to the label thing. I never thought, you know, here's a full-blown alcoholic. It looked like someone that was going through a hard time

that was self-medicating with alcohol. Like, there's a difference. but to completely negate all the things that happened and up to the point where you said you got blackout drunk and hit your head like you can't just now sidestep it to be like oh they're out to get me yeah i think this is like almost like a variation of like picking your battles depending on who you're talking to she talks to garcell she knows that garcels of clear mind coming with concern really talking to her about it she knows since day one that kyle's always been on the side of she doesn't really have a problem it's nice to see her cut loose right she's heard her say that multiple times so i think that she's going into this with a different approach where this is probably what she really thinks, where she's like, do I want to be on this medication? No. Am I going to stop my life because I'm on this medication? Also, no. No, but when you're falling down drunk repeatedly, like hitting your head after a night out, like, you can't defend that behavior. Again, am I saying that you're a full-blown alcoholic? No. Am I saying that this is something that was rightfully

addressed? Absolutely. And for her to take this like complete 180 where, and of course it's with Kyle who's going to just agree was just like a stupid move. This was a bad play. Like she's not setting herself up for anything positive coming from this. Well, I also don't think that that's necessarily true because I think she also realizes that what she says with Kyle will just stay there. I don't think Kyle's going to turn on Erica and say. No, she doesn't seem to.

And it just doesn't seem like a play. I don't know. Kyle's changed a lot this season. So I really don't know where she's going to go with this. but I think that her allegiances lie with Rinnah and with Erica mostly. I just think that like when she sees the opportunity arise to like cause shit regardless of who's at stake, like she is going to go for it and just like throw that gas on the fire. At least that's how she's been this year.

So I don't think she's fully safe. I think it would take more for her to throw Eric under the bus than some of the other women other than like Dorit. Yeah. But they finished that scene. Like we got that, um, the intro that we. didn't talk about just like the they're getting their teeth done and we get to the charity which is a great charity let me intro with that like phenomenal what they're doing pretty much like any charity is a good charity that's a most part that's a really good point yeah um but like with this one

they are helping people that can't afford um dental care dental care and like dorrit's dentist pledges a brand new smile to somebody which is like a $20,000 thing that's not cheap so that was cool, I initially thought when they said the name, I was like, that's not great. Homeless, not toothless. I laughed. Yeah, it's not a good name for a charity. And I think that in this moment, it could be misconstrued that Kyle and Erica were laughing at the charity because that's what it seemed like.

But I think it was because of the name until they started bringing up like, oh, like you bring your spare teeth to this thing. I was like, okay. Oh, and then you throw Kathy in the middle of that. And Kathy's like, you need teeth to talk and smile and eat. Like, yeah, Kathy. Yeah, no shit. She just like can't wrap her head around the idea of not having teeth. No. And like the whole, I don't know, it was a tough look. I thought like, again, I think they were just laughing at the name of the charity because it's not the best name.

Fantastic what they're doing. But homeless, not toothless is tough. And when Kathy brought it up at dinner, I thought she was going to make fun of it. She's like, what's the name of it? Homeless, not toothless. Yeah, mid-speech. And I was like, oh, God, she's going to shit on it in front of like the director of the charity. And she goes, oh, that's great.

And I was like, ooh. Well, luckily the director couldn't go. He was MIA. He had issues. I think he may have gotten COVID or something, but. Was he a French designer that got held up at immigration? Something like that. Was he a T.

They did have, they did have two representatives there, which were such great additions. I saw them walking in. I was like, they're probably like, I don't really want to be here. I don't know how this is going to go. And they got their money's worth. They have to be awesome. They should be there for the rest of the season with no lines. Like they're not allowed to talk, but they just have to sit there and react. And then they get their own confessionals where they just debrief. And like, they need a podcast. It's almost like Marco. Like, yeah, honestly. Throwing in an outsider or two. And probably new with. they were doing too because they kept flashing over to the two girls that were sitting there

making sure that we knew they were representatives of the charity and one's texting crystal like what the fuck is going on i don't think she was she was one of crystal's friends that got invited that wasn't oh one of the bystanders but that is a bystander yeah that's a third party that's like what the fuck's going on yeah why is this happening right now this is a charity event like why why are we doing this and kind of this is where i'm going to go with this Doreet having this fundraiser, this gala, as she wants to put it, with all of the women from the show, with the cameras rolling, was asking for it. I agree.

She's asking for a bad stigma to a fucking charity. I agree. It was a tough move. You don't do that. No, it was a bad move on Doree to assume that this wouldn't happen. There were no cameras at the Elton John charity event. Right? Or like knowing that this would happen and like kind of leading into it.

it like i i agree that it was an interesting move and i thought like the cast of characters there she talks about the one doctor or dentist that was there that's like yeah i'm on kid number nine and in my mind i'm like oh he's got nine kids he's like yeah i went on ancestry dot com and like six children that was the yeah that was the CEO of the charity that's the CEO Yeah. Oh. Yeah, that was the flashback that they had with three talking to him. And he's like, I've got six out there.

I've donated a lot. I don't know. He creeped me out. Like, to offer that information to somebody was like a weird move. I thought that was supposed to be anonymous. Yeah. And now you're like, I feel like you could somehow, you could probably figure out how to trace that lineage if you wanted to.

I was a little disappointed at one point because the way that they brought this up and they talked about the charity, the way that Doreet got involved was she was neighbors to Sharon Stone. She said Sharon Stone eight times. I thought we were going to get another Jamie Lee Curtis type of thing, where Sharon Stone shows up and has very run-of-the-mill gifts, and Dorettes just goes wild. Oh, that would have been so good.

I got so excited, and it was like, fuck, she's not here. Here's Melissa Lethbridge. Melissa Etheridge. What do I call her, Lethbridge? Lethbridge. Melissa Etheridge, two-time grab me. Come to my window? whatever it's fine

fuck you what no I don't know it's before we get to Melissa hold on like before we get there let's just get to like

the actual scene that we watched unfold at dinner was one of my least favorite Kyle moments this season I think because it was so fucking forced like she clearly

that's really saying something because she's had some really bad ones but this one was just so like ugh like thirsty you know sudden sitting over on the because she's got the like horseshoe table set up because who doesn't have that at a dinner party at your house but there's well hold on hold on let's take it back an episode i made a comment like that about the decorations at uh diana's house for christmas yeah i thought they were ludicrous it's a fucking party they brought in tables

you think she just sits there and has like last supper at dory yes no It has Last Supper. No. At Doree's house, I think that she has, those are her tables. I don't think she brought tables in. No way. All right. You stand by that one.

I stand by that. Okay. Yeah. But they're on like, you know, they're across the room from each other. And Kyle, of course, his smack dab in the middle. And she's trying to get it out of Sutton. Like, well, what happened? Like, did she say get the fuck out?

Did she say fuck? like did you say fuck you and like yeah and Garso was like yeah and even Mo's like I wasn't there and yeah you definitely said that yeah and I wonder where that came from because obviously we saw that

Kyle and Renna had FaceTime before the event and she asked her you know what happens and Renna just said I asked her to get out of the house Kyle must have known what she actually said yeah and just wanted to get it from it

and it's like god damn it but yeah so she goes from straight down the line right from Sutton Garcell's chiming in right next to Sutton. Thank God they're sitting next to each other. And Garcell's like, yeah, that's exactly what she said. Sutton goes, I really don't think this is the time or the place to do this. I don't want to talk about this right now.

Can we just do this another time? She doesn't even say, like, let's not talk about it at all. Like, obviously we have to talk about it because you weren't there, Kyle. But not fucking now. No, absolutely not. And like, and that's when it like blows my mind because if I'm Dorit there, I'm thinking like, Oh, like, Sutton was being a better friend here. She didn't want to blow up my charity event in my house with these, like, important people here.

Kyle, my alleged best friend, stirred the pot to the point where women are yelling profanities at each other across the room. Well, people I'm donating a lot of money and time to are sitting in that same room. Like, that's such a terrible look. Well, Kyle asked Doreet, and Doreet gave her a real answer. Yeah. And then looked at Sutton and said something to Sutton and Garcell, like got involved in the, That's what I'm talking about with this whole charity thing. She should have the wherewithal to be like, no.

Let's not do this right now. Let's talk about it after. Not the move. This is like plain and simple, the show comes far above this charity, which is shitty. That is shit. That's a really, really good point. Like in her moment, she's like, oh yeah, let's do this right now because this is a good time to do this. This is a bad idea.

Like, no, fuck off. Yeah, like you said, it can bring like a bad stigma to the charity because like, oh, like these crazy women are endorsing this. Look, I'm probably not going to give them my money. We love charities. Charity already has a terrible name. It needs a better name. Now it's got this going on.

So it's not looking too good for homeless, not toothless. And we want to actually, let's use this as an endorsement. Donate to homeless, not toothless. Absolutely. That's our endorsement. You need teeth to eat. Yeah, according to Kathy fucking Hilton. I thought she was going to go step further and be like, well, they're homeless.

homeless, so, you know, are they eating that much as it is? I fully expected Kathy to do that. I wouldn't be shocked. Like, she doesn't have any kind of fucking kilter. But the blowout between Rina and Sutton, it goes off. And, like, Renna is screaming at her. Like, you don't know. Like, what's the fucking reason?

Like, you tell me, and I'll fucking drop it. Like, we'll not let it go. And Sutton's mortified. Crystal's mortified. Like, women in the room are just like, oh, my God. the representatives of the charity are baffled they are no idea what's going on they're flummoxed by the scene that's like bored dragging in front of them thank you but i couldn't believe it and like the whole thing continues to pop off and we finally get like some resolution only

because melissa ethridge comes out and starts playing come to my window which is a fucking banger and if you don't think so it is a good song no i'll give you that i always just thought that alanus moorset's all sung that so It was just on me. Truly did I, yes. You learned something new every day. But it was, I don't know if it was because of the song or the music. Like, I think, to be honest, Asher could have come out and sung something.

And they just needed a break that little moment. I don't know, dude. That was a starstruck moment for a lot of the ladies there. Like, despite what you do not know, like, Melissa Etheridge was a big fucking deal. Yeah. So, like, that was a big moment. That was like a showstopper, which I think. you needed that but at the same time

when it comes to Rina and Sutton they're both the quickest to move on so the singing's done and instantly they reconcile like this is stupid and Rina then goes a step further and like takes the blame for what just transpired yeah did I think it was fully genuine

did you no I didn't either and I did Soap opera came right. Do you see the way she was crying? I was buying it. I was buying it. I texted you. I said, this is sad.

Colleen pointed out to me, she was like, well, I think she's crying like that because she realizes she has a lot of makeup on. So she's trying her best to keep the tears away from the makeup.

And I was like, okay. I don't fucking know. I'm looking at her. She's like bobbing her head up and down and doing all that. I'm like very soap opera-y, very like,

let's play the drama up as much as possible. Everybody will flock to me and make sure I'm okay. Do I think that she does have some emotions about, you know, her mother passing and getting all the stuff and whatever? Sure. Yes. The stuff came today. Oh.

How does that excuse her behavior from the wine tasting? That's a good point. That's a good point. But I agree. I think and I texted you, this is sad. And then I said, oh, never mind, like a few minutes later. Because the scene ends. And like, I don't want to discredit it entirely.

Like, yes, she's going through a really hard time. but the way she like snaps out of it like she just starts laughing and then they're like oh like kumbayaing again and like everything's fine the quick turnaround for me i was like whoa whoa like you were just like bawling this was like earth shattering you had this big moment where you take the blame for being an asshole you take the blame for yelling a sudden you say the anger's not directed at her it's directed towards just this situation and like losing your mother and you have a lot of emotion you're not you don't know how to handle them like to go from that earth-shattering like revelation of coming to terms and then to just like I'm good I was like this is what I needed I needed all of my friends to just say we love you and we're here for you yeah but they say that to her all the time anyway yeah they've been doing it the entire time and like here's the thing I should have seen this coming because I always look for the writing on the wall for these things. And they showed in the beginning of the episode, and I took a second. I was like, wait,

what the fuck? They showed Lisa in Mexico saying hi to Lois, because some birds went by with birds. And I stopped and I was like, wait, why is she in Mexico? Oh, they're showing a flashback. Why are they showing a flashback? Like, I usually do that. I usually go into that, that mode where I'm like, why are they showing this? Is this going to be an important play later? Like, are they making sure that we know that her mom passed away because she's going to use this as an excuse later? Usually I do that and I didn't think anything of it and I'm like fuck I missed it but yeah I'm with you like the way that she just completely stopped I think she got maybe a little embarrassed and realized like I don't know if she was drunk

I don't think she can say a lot of things about Lisa Rina I don't think she's ever embarrassed that's probably fair like she seems to just like even in that moment she's like oh I did say that like she eventually admits like oh I did tell her to go fuck herself yeah I also thought it was really funny that's not great I also I thought it was really funny that Garcel pointed out, how long has Melissa Etheridge been back there? Like, did she hear everything? She had to have. Like, she must have.

It's not, I mean, it's a big room for a house. And she's just behind a curtain. And she was supposed to go on at P.K. said seven o'clock. I wonder what time is like she actually came on. I wish they showed us. They should have been like seven and five in the corner. Yeah. Count down to Melissa like negative two minutes, negative four minutes.

PK just like going fumbling around with the lights like in the back. He keeps fucking the lights up. I felt so bad for him. That was like a moment where I wanted him to succeed. Like, you can do this, dude. Oh, come on, man. Oh, between him and Mo? I got a little, a little touchy, a little weird.

Well, when he, he's playing with fire. Because he played that game with Mo. He's like, all right, take all wives out of it. He'll rank the group. He gifted him a Versace belt. Oh, that was from him. When we make it big, I'll gift you a Versace belt. I'm holding you to that.

All right, that's fine. I'm holding you to that. Guys, keep listening so that I can get a Versauch-Bel. Let's take our wives out of this. I'm not playing that game with you. Absolutely not. And Mo played it the right way. He went two for two.

He's like, my wife. No, your wife. Now take then PK that little slimy do is like, no, no, come on, man. Like, let me hear it. Give it to me. I've got these fresh teeth. I'm ready to go. He's like, one, two, three.

He drops a firm Erica. Oh, yeah. A heavy. Erica. After, well, and they, they prefaced it by talking about it. I think he got American real quick. I was like, Erica. How old is P.K.?

Ooh, I think he's right up her alley. She said she's dating. I was 60. No, she's not dating. Oh, yeah. They just have sex. Yeah. Well, that's dating.

No, that's sex. According to Doree, that's dating. No, that's just sex. But, yeah, I thought that was a little much. And then, like, they're sitting next to each other. And, like, I get it. They're boys. They love seeing each other.

It's a good time. That's just a date. dangerous game but every time that they pan over to them like maricio has his arm around them they're like very chummy and together and i'm like what like maybe they're all swingers a little much yeah maybe they are i mean the white game makes a lot of sense hot take could be maybe and you know what we can wrap up rob ho with that yeah we'll leave you guys with that yeah before we get into some little nugget at the end yeah hot take from the bros That takes us to Shooter's favorite part of the show, The Questions.

And up first we have from the Bravo Bottoms, does the recent news change any opinion on Teresa? No, and I think we talked about that. Yeah, we got into it. Like, we were already kind of feeling that way. Well, actually, I guess we can take this one or two ways. I'm going to choose to take it this way. But we were already kind of like feeling down on her,

not really wanting to see her on the camera anymore. But the recent news, yeah, from the wedding, she was a Bridezilla. That's what we expected. But it sounds like she's letting Louis kind of defend her, which is a different change of pace. Well, you can't say, is she or is Louie getting charged by Joe and has to defend himself? Well, I think that he was the one that was like sticking his finger in it. So I don't really know. I didn't hear anything about Teresa yelling at Alyssa or yelling at Joe.

I don't either, actually, but I'm sure. I don't know. I don't know. To answer the question a little bit. Oh, I'll bluntly answer. It hasn't changed my opinion in any way, shape, or form. I've always been out on her. So it just solidifies my opinion.

That's fine. Up next from ADK Hero. Heru ends with an X. So if I, if I butcher that pronunciation, I will try to do better next time. But who do you think is in the right? I believe Teresa will always be blamed for everything. Oh, interesting stands. That's a good point.

Who's in the right between? Between who? How are we taking this one? I'll say who's in the right between Marge and... No, let's do like between Teresa and like Joe and Melissa not going to the wedding. How about that? I actually think the Joe and Melissa are in the right. One, I mean, yeah, obviously it's your sister's wedding, but it is their second wedding. If you don't want you to be the focus of the drama, then don't go. Yeah. So I'm kind of on their side with this one. I agree. I'm definitely on their side. I don't think. that there's any reason for them to go one because they're spreading scathing rumors about

your marriage allegedly and two to be a good brother-in-law like you said like that's going to pull the attention off of the wedding I don't know if it actually would have just because of Teresa but yeah I think that Joe and most of are right as well yeah then our last question comes from Molly Mills oh one two three right Which three Bravo Levs do you think would be the biggest nightmare to endure a two-week COVID quarantine with? Oh, there's so many, so many candidates. Molly Mills, great question. Jeez, how do I cut it down to just three?

I'm going to say, Dorinda. This is all going to be like probably a recency bias, but I'm going to say Durinda, probably Sutton just because we saw how sad she got that would be a real downer that's she was alone all right well she wouldn't be alone but she'd probably still be sad

how do you know? I'm sticking by my answer oh that's my answer you're a dick anyway I'm going Derinda Sutton and

Teresa obviously I mean, that's probably the number one pick. Okay, okay. So you stayed in the housewife realm. This was a Bravo Letb. By the way, confirmation that Bravo Leb is a word. You said Bravo Leopardy. Oh, I did?

Yeah. Is it not that? Just Bravo Leb. Oh, fuck. All right. Because I saw that like the next week, too, and I remembered what you said. Oh, all right. Close.

That was close. My three would be Jack's number one. Could not stand being in the same room as him. um number two oh patricia and whitney just lump them together boom done it's one person that's one oh okay patricia and whitney and chef yeah if i oh my god do you want me to like throw myself out of a window like that would literally that's my fucking nightmare now i'm starting to like visualize it a little bit like oh my god that would be the

worst quarantine in the history of quarantine yeah that's a pretty good answer yeah that's a good draft That is a good draft. I would. But that wraps it up for us tonight. Remember, we are headed out west on the weekend of September 11th is the show in San Diego for Tom Sandoval and The Most Extras. You got anything else?

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