Bros & Shows - Count Dork-Ula and Other Losers (The Valley Full Recap S3E18)

Episode Date: July 31, 2026

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And then... It stopped. Sometimes the moments that never happen matter most. Volvo's automatic emergency braking helps ensure a safe ending for everyone. Learn more at VolvoCars.caps.caps.com. Well, as you can see, I'm up the mountains right now, and I tried my damnedest to not let this show bring me down to ruin my vibe because I'm chilling pretty hard right now. But I'll tell you what, it's disheartening when I open up peacock, I go to the valley, and I click on the episode named the Valley of the Damned. Awesome.

Yay. Woo-hoo. I guess that's just a Halloween thing. I'm going to chalk it up to that. But let's all just soak it in for a second. This might be the last episode of the Valley. This might be the last episode. It's definitely the last episode of the Valley as we know it.

There's going to be changes regardless, but it might be canceled. This show might just get the acts that it deserves. I know we've got three parts of a reunion, so we'll talk more about it. But, I mean, I'm going to speak it into existence. Get this show off the air. I'm dumb. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be on. Man, it's 8 o'clock.

And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good morning, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros.

For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Shooter Magooder. You deserve your full name for the Valley finale. I'm so happy you did that instead of what I thought it was going to be. The valley of the Goots. I kind of like that, actually.

That's not what I was thinking. I thought it was going to be Count Gooseela. I love that. Damn it. Yeah, but like it's too close. Calbukela. Let's just throw this out there. Why the fuck did they all dress up as vampires?

What a group of losers. I do this every episode. Can you imagine being like, hey, if you text to me and you're like, Hey, me and Dev, like we're going to a Halloween party. All of our couple friends are dressing the same. You and your girlfriend should show up as what we're dressing up as. I tell you, sure, absolutely. And I would show up as the furthest possible thing.

What a bunch of losers. Who does this? It's one thing to do this like with your friends when you're like 21 and you're like, hey, let's all be like, I'm thinking of Scooby right now, my dog. So let's all be the mystery team. And we'll all dress up as different people from Scooby-Doo. Perfectly fine when you're 21 years old. you people are pushing 40 if not in your 40s and you're like hey we're all going to dress up as vampires you couldn't come up with anything cooler i they

they irritate me to no end with all of the things they do i know people think that we just get pissed off because they're terrible people and their assholes but like even something like this really gets me going and there's another piece that i'm going to talk about in a second but i want to hear what you just your general overview of this Halloween episode because like this just shows you these people suck the whole episode sucks Yeah, I mean, just one very important correction. It's Mystery Inc. Okay? If we're going to do something, let's get it right. What did I say?

The mystery team? Isn't the mystery team something? I've never heard of the mystery team, but that sounds like it could be something. No, mystery team is an animated show. No, no, mystery team is that you actually know it. I know you know it. It's a movie from. Oh, you're talking about the Ben Stone movie.

It's Donald Glover. No, no, it's Donald Glover. Wait, what? Yeah, we're talking about two different ones. nine yeah i don't know what you're stiller's in that isn't he i don't think so it's the one with like the the be list superheroes right oh no no no mystery team is is don't glover oh you're right a terrible movie but you know that's what i was thinking of right away there's a superhero movie with ben stiller and it's like a cult classic oh it's something i thought it was mystery are you googling it

It's just called the superhero movie. Mystery men. Oh, look you. Yeah, mystery men. That one's a good one. That's like a random throwback, like mini giant following. If you want a funny movie.

Yeah. The movie poster is the exact same movie poster as, is Batman Forever the one with Arnold Schwarzenegger? Or is that Batman? No, that's Batman Forever. That's the one with the bat nips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bat Nips on that booty.

That's right. Yeah, you get, if you look at Batman's costume, in Batman Forever. He's got nipples. Bat bulge. And a big old bat bulge. I believe Robin's in that one, but I don't think that's Batman and Robin.

I do think that's Batman forever. I think Batman and Robin makes an appearance in the Batman Forever. Robin's fully in it. Yeah. And you get a whole entire movie full of Arnold Schwarzenegger cold puns. Yeah. Which is just lovely.

And it's Tim Burton's wacky Gotham, which looks great. Yeah, but I'm just thinking of what's, Chris, what the hell? Who played? Oh, yeah. Fuck. It's, I could see his face.

But I just remember the scene where he kisses Uma Thurman and she looks at him and she smiles and he goes, rubber lips. The night's forecast, deep freeze. Hey, chill. Holy shit. If you guys haven't watched that one in a while, it is so. outrageously bad, amazing. That's a fucking fantastic movie. I'd rather talk about that this whole time than...

Much rather. If we did that, like, a surprise episode, we just, like, when I, like, name the episode and, like, write the write up and everything, it's just Valley, Valley, Valley, and then you click on it. It's just us talking about Batman forever. It's a recap of Batman forever. Yeah.

Choose her own adventure. That would be amazing. God, what was his name? Chris, what? That's going to drive me nuts, too. But, yeah. Anyway, I forgot that. I forgot that Uma was in that one.

She's Poison Ivy. I mean, the whole just top to bottom, phenomenal movie. But, and the costumes, like, are so 90s. The whole thing was just like such a 90s. Chris O'Donnell. Chris O'Donnell. Thank you. Oh, boy.

Well, back to what I was saying. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. No. I just think it's funny. This all started with the mystery team. And here we are.

I know. Just a little glimpse into our brains, everyone. Yeah. This is how our conversation is going. like in real life. We'll be talking about something. I'll be like, oh,

remember that movie? And then we'll go to movie dive for like 30 minutes. Yeah. Oh, they should do the Brock Bros. movie podcast or something.

That would be kind of fun, actually. But, yeah, we'll just set up like a, a secondary podcast. I don't even want to put it on Patreon. I don't know how I feel about that,

but I would just put it, we'll just set up a secondary podcast. Hey, new show. It's just us talking about movies. Movies. But actually having fun, then we remember what we used to do on the valley.

Like, gross. Instead of doing bad shows, we just we just we forgo the bad shows and replace them with movies having a fun movie not a bad idea no i think that i think we're onto something there but back to this show this pile of shit that we have uh i mean this episode kind of highlights a lot of things that are wrong with this show in my opinion um i think at the root of everything is not just jeremiah being a terrible producer. I think at the root of everything, it's a cast problem. I think of a major casting issue,

incompatibility, refusal to film, refusal to move on from shit. Like there's too many problems piled up. And then when you get to this point in a show, it's crazy to me that they got the big season and they're probably going to get canceled at the end of that. Because usually when you get like the 18, 20 episode season, it's like, wow, this show's thriving. This show is not. And like, we had a lot of people reach out because we did ask you guys and people were genuine in their response. Like, hey, I like the Valley. We'd love to explain why a lot of it has to do with the how real it is, you know, especially when it comes to like, usually what we saw and the people that liked it,

they're resonating with the motherhood stuff, the postpartum and stuff like that, which look, if that's something that that struck you, like I get that. That's, you know, cool for you. I just think when we're talking mass appeal, it seems to me that there's way too many people that are not in on it versus the few that are. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a good way to go about it. The other thing that shows you just how far this show is away from what it could be is Halstasi. I watched the first two and a half episodes of House of Stasi.

They've got Stasi. They've got Katie. They have Bo, obviously. Ariana makes it appearance, not like a spoiler alert, but she makes it. in appearance because she's talking to Katie. They got the cool people from BPR. Valley got the rejects, the losers. That's what you get.

Like the production value on, I know it's Hulu and they throw a lot into that. I'm also wrong. At least I think I'm wrong. I texted you yesterday and I said, oh, Hulu actually learned. They're not dropping the entire season at one time. They are, but they aren't.

They're airing it on free form, weirdly enough. So that's coming out every week. If you have cable and you want to watch it there instead of streaming, but everything on Hulu is available. So we'll have to figure out, you know, we'll do what we can with that. Yeah. So I watched the first two and a half episodes.

It's spectacular. It really is. I mean, the way Stasi goes about it, like she just doesn't pull any punches and she's very, very, very well, like, she makes it very apparent that everything's for the show.

She's like, hey, they gave me a show. I have to have Katie back. I have to mend the fence here to make sure that I have a good show because I want to be like the Kardashians. I want to make my whole family like the Kardashians.

Like, she's very funny. But she goes and talks to Katie and she's like, look, do you want to be on the show? And that's a scene on the show. It's very funny. Like the way they're not just like pulling the veil over our heads. They're not like looking at us like, hey, I know you guys aren't going to get this. We're going to make something up. They're like, no, actually, we're just going to talk about shit and be like, fuck.

We're on TV right now. This sucks, but we have to get through it. It's like it's just a better world to be in. And I think it's just very funny when you put that up against this show. You're like, oh yeah, you guys suck. Like you, you were cool. And I get that when you're in your 20s. It's fun to watch.

By the time you get to your 40s, you should have a different life and they don't have a different life. It's just like they're carrying on. And Stasi does. Stasi does. Stasi has a completely different life, but she's still the same person.

Ariana does. Exactly. They're all the same people, but they've learned things and they're in a different stage of their life that is more, it's like what we talk about within the city, minus Amanda,

they're in a different stage of their lives, but they're still the same people. They're still doing the same shit. It's just that they have actual businesses. They have actual aspiration. They actually show what life can be like. And then you go to the valley. It's like, we don't know.

We're figuring things out. We're just some wacky teenagers in our 40s. I'm not well-adjusted at all. I don't even know what that means. Oh, God. Well, let's jump in. We'll probably jump around a little bit on this one. Like I said, seeing the Valley of the Damned,

I normally don't even pay attention to the names of episodes. Same. But it's just so fitting because the show is so damned. I will say, when we get in the beginning, trick-or-treating and Jason's in a wheelchair kind of funny. Not that wheelchairs are funny, but Jason in the wheelchair. This whole journey he's been on with his ACL

has been objectively kind of funny. But it is. Lala and Nia sit down. And like, say what you want about Lala. She's had a great season as far as anybody else in this show is concerned. But the good thing about her is she understands reality TV. She understands the structure. if she understands what you have to do to make a show move forward. So she sits down with Nia to

hash things out. If you go back through the whole season, every time she's had an issue, she has made the effort to have a scene where we sit down and talk about it, even if it doesn't go well. That is so important. That's a veteran move. That's something we don't see anywhere else in the show, which drives me up a fucking wall. But she sits down with Nia. And I will say, Nia giving her background a little bit more does paint it in a different picture. Do I like Nia? No. Do I kind of see where some of the interjections and the stepping in between Danny and like this,

this attempt to have a perfect life comes from? Yes. Dad was kind of a mess. She was in and out of shelters. And her mom, that relationship was kind of wacky. So the biggest thing she was missing in her life was security, comfort. and a loving family. So to rectify that,

she just pretends that she has that. She looks the other way with everything. She doesn't acknowledge what's going on because if she acknowledges what's going on, she loses her peace. She would rather eat shit and treat Daniel like a toddler than she would acknowledge the issues that they have in their life. That's, I think, the most important takeaway from this conversation

because obviously what she's saying is Daniel doesn't do that. He's not like my dad. He's not like my parents. I'm not going to raise kids like that. So I make sure that he's protected because I know he's a good person. It's like, eh, what I'm hearing is I'm going to protect him from himself and other people because he's not that great of a person. But I'm going to hold everybody accountable around us, but not hold him accountable because I hold him to a higher regard. I'm putting him up on a pedestal because I refuse to believe that he's anything but what I've made up my mind to be.

and that's why we have so many fake scenes. That's why we rehearse our scenes. That's why when the cameras start rolling, we act like everything's fine and it's everybody else's problem. And I think the biggest issue that's really come about this whole season is that people think they need to pick sides. Like, it's either Janet or Danny. You don't have to. Like I see so many people online like, well, Janet's a terrible person.

She does this, this and this. Like she needs to shut up. She needs to stop talking about Danny. It's like you don't have to support Danny. You're allowed to just be like we are and just say, Janet sucks. We know what she's doing is fake half the time. We know she's trying to push narratives and she's trying to paint a much worse

picture of people that she's going up against. So she sucks. Then you go over to Danny and you can say he sucks. You don't have to pick a side. You can just see this for what it is. And I think it just makes people like, I don't know, maybe it just makes it easier to swallow when you're watching the show and you're like, well,

I'm really not going to enjoy the show if I hate everybody on it. So I have to pick one side or the other when it comes to conflict. It's like, no, you really don't have to. I mean, I do think the majority of people when they watch the show and they do that, what we're doing right now, they're just going to stop watching. I don't like, I don't like either of you. So I don't care. But yeah, it's, I don't like, I think that's the best way that I can put it is just people are just going to stop it because it's like 80% of the time. We're talking about Danny versus Janet, Danny and Nia versus Janet where everybody falls in line.

If you don't like anybody involved, like we don't, you're just going to stop watching. You just don't care anymore. You're going to throw it on in the background. But I feel like people want to get invested in these shows and have the online. discourse because they don't actually have to put like a face to the name of themselves. They could just be anonymous and talk shit on whoever they want. And that's fine. You can talk shit on whoever you want.

But you don't have to pick a side because Danny's a terrible person and Janet's not a good person either. Exactly. And you can also have separate thoughts within what's happening. I do believe that Danny's a fucking creep. And I do believe that Janet has the right to say that Danny's a fucking creep. Janet herself said in other episodes, yeah, the wording I used might not have been on the nose, but he is a creep. And I'm triggered because of a past experience.

All fair, all valid, all true. I'm for that. Is Janet an asshole? Yeah. Do I enjoy her on TV? No, not at all. I fucking hate Danny too. So, like, that's the whole thing that we ran into at this show.

And it's not just people at home. it's people on the cast, we don't have objective third parties. They have to align because if they don't, then Nia is going to ice them out. And apparently being friends with Danny and Nia is the creme de la creme of this show. Like, if you want to be cool, you've got to be friends with these two idiots. I don't get why. I would much rather have, like, where Lala's been living is somewhat in that objective space. Like, she's able to at least try to have conversations.

She's able to look at things pragmatically and be like, huh, well, let's be. just look at this from a logical standpoint, have a conversation. No one else can do that. And that is one of the main downfalls of this show, because every scene is this or that pick now. You picked wrong. Fuck you.

Okay. Yeah. And I don't even know if this is like a completely unbiased take because I don't like either side. So I think that kind of puts bias in and takes it away. I'm really not really sure how that works. But a double bias is like a double negative. Double bias means no bias.

Yeah. So it just cancels out. Yeah. So, yeah, no bias. But like the way they're going about it, like if you look at what Janet's been doing, like, yes, she's annoying. Yes, she's always trying to make herself relatable. She's always talking about chilies and Applebee's and McDonald's and going to fucking Dave and Buster's like all of those things. And she's like, oh, I used, you know, I still order Taco Bell late at night.

It's like, I know what you're trying to do. And it's really fucking annoying. But that's the worst that she's been doing this season. And then you go over to Danny and he's just completely acting like nothing happened and then yelling in people's faces. It's like, okay, well, lesser of two, lesser of two evils. Lala shading towards Janet because she sees what's going on at the very least and obviously we have a big discussion about that

when we get to the Halloween party about what is going on and what Kristen said the week prior. So there is a lot more going in that direction where it's like this is fucking weird going on over here. Let me at least position myself in a point of let's poke some holes in this. Let's see what happens over here. One, it makes for better TV.

I'm not going to say good TV, but better TV, watchable TV. Two, it just makes sense. Like you talk to Janet, like she tells you all about her sexual assault. She opens up about that. It's like, okay, I'm going to take all of that under consideration. I'm going to talk to Kristen about it.

Like, that makes sense to. Then you go over to Danny and he's just like, I don't understand why anybody's mad at me. I don't really get any of this. And then he gets blackout drunk. And he does more things. It's not that hard to figure out. I just don't understand why people. I know you don't like Janet.

I'm not telling you to support Janet, but at least be somewhere in the middle where you can look at both sides and be like, I don't want to be involved with any of you. It's just, it's so weird to align with Danny and Nia just for the sake of aligning with those two. and I know damn well, especially because of the comments we've gotten in regards to it, so much of it has to do with the religion thing. And again, to my Christians out there, because some of you get mad when I talk about this, I'm not talking about you. If you have a normal relationship with your religion, if you follow it and you're a nice

person as you're supposed to be, this isn't for you. You keep living your life. You keep doing your thing. I have all the respect for you. This is for the people that claim, just because you have a Bible, you're allowed to be a massive piece of shit. Then you go to a confessional on Sunday, and everything's absolved. And those are the people that comment in defense of Danny and Nia just blindly following

because they say that they're people of God. That's insane to me. And that's why I will never stop saying this. But again, if you're a normal religious person, this is not at you. I promise. I have no issues with you whatsoever. But yeah, it's just fucking stupid. but I also love

and like not even to get into obviously you know we got a lot of shit because apparently we were political at one point but the idea the idea that that Nia goes on Fox News and does a whole interview about Christian values and you know her life and how

great her husband is and she doesn't understand why other people are mad and I would say the same thing about the other side like if she went on like MSNBC and was talking about all of like whatever whatever she would be doing on that side, it doesn't really matter. Like she doesn't understand.

And then when people go at her and start talking about it, she's like, I don't get it. I just gave an interview. It's like, no, once you do that, you're putting yourself in the political space. Half the people that are watching these shows are going to be mad at you. But then you're turning a blind eye again. And that seems to be what you do. You make excuses and you turn a blind eye no matter what the situation is. So it's just really tough to like to look at her as a genuine person.

Like I would have so much more respect if she's like, you know what? Like, yeah, we're on that side of the aisle. We did all of these things. And we aligned with that because we're Christians. Yeah, go for it. I'd have more respect for you if you just said that instead of being like, I don't get it. I went on the news. It's like, you get it.

Like, just be truthful at some point. You do get it. And also this bastardization of Christianity that you're following. But whatever, we don't need to talk about it. We could just talk about the show. But I agree with you 100%. Yeah. Now, we get one more chance to see if Luke can redeem himself in any way,

shape of form and good God. Hopefully this is the last chance. I really hope this is the last chance that we ever see. We talked about last thing. Kristen has to fucking leave this guy. I still like Kristen. I know Kristen's in there somewhere. I honestly,

she's going through a lot of tough times. I think he is really adding to the fucking shit that she's going through. And that's probably speaking to her psyche. She's got to leave this guy. This guy sucks, man. I mean, brutal. Like we're sitting there after all we've seen this season, after all they've been through this season.

and now we're talking about therapy. And he's going to take the stance of, well, it's two versus one. You guys are picking on me because I don't want to talk about that stuff. I got over it. It works. Yeah, I'm over it. I'm so over it. I'm not even having a reaction to it right now.

I'm so over it. Like, why you have to go back and talk about that stuff? Because that's the root of your problems, you dumbass. That's the whole entire thing. That's where we're at right now because of your inability to discuss your feelings. I just love it. Like, what do you think, what do you think it means when people go to therapy and they say, we're unpacking things? Yeah.

Like, did you think that like, because you had a conversation and got over it, that we weren't going to talk about it again? It's one thing to go back to Kristen after you guys seemingly resolve an issue. And six, seven months, eight months later, all of a sudden she brings it back up and you're like, what the fuck? I thought we got over that. That's one thing. But when you go to therapy and she's trying to get a base on what's going on and where your relationship is, where it's heading, where it came from, you're going to talk about how you got to where you are, especially the way that he was talking in therapy.

So he started off in that stupid dude who like hates therapy voice and it's like, okay, I can give you a pass there. But once he starts talking about his feelings again, he's like, I just don't fucking get it. You guys are gang it up on me. I don't want to deal with any of this. We talked about all of these things. But by the way, I just, I hate pregnant Kristen. So I want a second kid. Let's have a second kid.

pregnant Kristen needs to just be a thing. So we can bury her in a coffin. By the way, buddy, Kristen's not pregnant right now. So what are we talking about? So you're also designating pregnant Kristen, postpartum Kristen. Pregnant Kristen again, postpartum Kristen again. That's really tough to say a lot in the line. And then what?

And then you think that it's magically just going to change? Like there's a lot more going. He's just not, he doesn't fucking get it. He's a dumb ass at the end of the day. He's a dumb ass, but he's also somewhat of a bigot. And I don't really like him anymore. No, he's just a piece of shit because this whole thing, he's such a fucking man baby, too. Like, he's just not a serious adult because he is so stuck on this idea of, well, we had plans.

Like, this is what we were going to do. This was our life before. You had a kid that changes things. Adults adjust. You adjust to your new. This is what your new life looks like. So fucking answer the bell, dude. don't keep trying to go back to this non-existent version of you guys,

because that's no longer there. It doesn't exist. You have to be able to move on in your new normal, and to do that. You have to support your wife and the mother of your kids, or sorry, future wife, potentially, but probably not based on all of this. The fact that every single time he's like,

well, we talked about like, and things before were so great, maybe she would be getting to a better place faster if she had actual support. Maybe she'd feel more comfortable. and able to move forward and be affectionate and stuff if she thought you liked her. But you're admittedly saying, I fucking hate this version of you. Wow, I can't stand you. Let's have another baby now.

So I literally, like, how do you say this to your wife or sorry, mother of your kid with a straight face? So we could bury her in a coffin, like put her in a coffin and put her to death. That is part of her. This is still dote. it's a version that maybe you don't like, but it's still her. And she needs somebody that's going to be there at her worst. She doesn't feel great.

And I promise you, I guarantee fucking to you that it has been so exacerbated by the lack of support and understanding from Luke. And the idea that, you know, she has to be there to support him during her pregnancy, which is such a crazy sentence to even say out loud. And then on top of all of that, her biggest issue in her whole life is abandonment. And all you do is give her more reasons to fear that if she's pregnant or if she's postpartum, that you're going to leave her. So in the midst of the hardest thing she's gone through in her life, you're making it worse. You're a piece of shit, pal.

Yeah. Like awful. can't stand them really can't stand them really need christian to just leave this guy do not have another kid with him no god no no he says that was the darkest place in my life oh dotey and postpartum where do you think she was dude again perspective understand what you're saying and who you're talking to go out and live in the woods with danny at this point yeah please that'd be cool go like it's just brutal like i can't whatever michelle and natalie we have a quick check with them. This is just to kind of tell you where Michelle's at. I give her a little update.

You know, she's kicking ass. She's trying to do 50 mil in sales next year in the real estate thing. And she's just feeling like a boss. You know, she wants her own home. She has been one of the only bright spots in this season. I'm glad she's thriving. I will genuinely be bummed out if we lose Michelle from reality TV. Like I would like her to fit in somewhere else if we lose the show. Yeah. I don't know. maybe she would pop over to like million dollar listing or something selling sunset or something yeah selling sunset i always forget which one's on bravo i think it's million dollar listing isn't it i think so selling sunsets netflix that's that's either way maybe she'll pop up

somewhere else i don't know or if dr dr dr dr dr day doesn't work out maybe she'll pop up on like love is blind oh that'd be fun i'd be into that yeah yeah i've messes that but jesse and lexy lacey I always get that wrong, are at the gynecologist office. We're just doing a check in there. She's freezing her eggs. She wants to make sure that if she wants to have kids in the future, that it's a possibility because she's, I believe she said stage four endometriosis.

So she's trying to get all of her ducks in a row. And it's just nice to see, you know, her and Jesse moving forward in their own strange way. It's funny to me that like she just pretty much dismisses everything that he tries to say and do. But there's a part of me that thinks that's important. I feel like to have a good Jesse, you need to knock them down a lot. I think now that we're at the end of the season, we've had a lot of different scenes

where we kind of see how it makes sense that they're together. And I think this was the icing on the cake. This was the cherry on top because there were moments during this scene. Obviously, I could do without Jesse saying he wants to seed the world. That just never say that again. No. Yeah, never. It's not like seed as a verb ever.

Yeah. I think Genghis Kong thought that way. I mean, he has like a million descendants, so yeah. Yeah, pretty sweet. It's pretty dope. I actually like that guy a lot. Anyway, so. Bolt take.

He has a very bearing on us. It was like 2,000 years ago. Anyway, but yeah, you can see some moments in this scene where it makes sense, where there actually is a couple of loving moments from one or the other or both. And then also she even says like, ah, you know, when I go through that phase, like, I'm going to be really mean to you. And he's like, you're mean to me all the time. She's like, no, I'm not mean to you all the time. I just tell you what you do is wrong. That's a lot different. And he laughs. And then even the doctor laughs. I'm like, okay, I actually understand this now. I think when it first started, we had our suspicions. We were a little skeptical of the relationship. And now that we've gotten through the entire season and we've seen them go back and forth. And we've seen Jesse actually responds well when she checks him. I think it makes sense. I think that's exactly what. I also think it's exactly what Lacey needs.

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she turns 37 at midnight. I, oh, I would lose my mind with in character, Danny. It gives so hard. I'm an actor. I was a child star. And like that's the thing too. I'm not,

this is not a pass by any stretch of the imagination, but this is like my biggest fear of ever going to LA for an extended period of time is having to deal with people like that. Because I, I'm sure they are all over the place. Just like Genghis Khan's descendants, there's also people who are failed actors in LA that just act like that all the time.

It's like, yeah, everywhere you turn, it's either Genghis Khan or you got a failed actor that's acting like they're doing something or method acting. I can't stand that. I can't stand him. And I think I would leave the party. I imagine I would leave the party immediately if he walked in and did his schick about the, again,

they're all vampires. Why? I don't get this. Where is the creativity? We've seen multiple Halloween episodes and just this last week, which is really fun. I like to see that in July.

same it makes me you know look forward to getting to october because weather's a little bit better but also every other show that's done at next gen Atlanta they look great and their costumes are spectacular and then you get over here these fucking losers and they're like hey i'm gonna throw a cape on some fake teeth and i'm gonna have a list ball night and i'm gonna act like i'm a fucking vampire like i'm count succula like i don't get the creativity the only creative moment of the entire episode Halloween wise which isn't even creative and this is just low hanging fruit was Janet being a nurse and Jason being the patient. That was it.

That was the only time that I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Good job, guys. Move on. Everybody else. Like, that group text. God, that must be hell on earth. Hey, guys, we're all thinking. I know Brittany,

you probably controlled it. We're all coming over to my house. I would love it if everybody was just going to dress up as a vampire tonight. Wouldn't that be real cool? And we just act like vampires on that. We can see who the best vampire is out there. And, meanwhile, you know how she feels about it. like Jesus Christ.

Like you guys. Oh my doll. You guys suck so much. I hate them all. Uh. Yep. And yet that actually might be the, the most mad I've gotten at the entire cast was I'm all being vampires.

I think it's just a lot by the cherry on top. That was your tipping point. It's been a long season. Yeah. This show has been on for five months. Five months of our life. I'm, I'm done. It'll be six months after the reunion.

By the time the reunion. over. We'll have done this for half a year. Yep. Jesus. And people wonder why we hate it so much. But at the party, we finally get to try to hammer out the flippy floppiness

of Zach, the back and forth. So we sit down, Doty and Nia's text come up and Lala's talking to Janet and Michelle about it, about this two-timing, fart in the wind as Lala says, and Zach joins. Now,

the spin zone on this one was kind of bananas because they're talking about Doty throwing Zach and Nia under the bus a little bit which we watched transpire. It happened on TV. Zach's takeaway is, huh, you're plotting to make it look like Doty threw me under the bus. I was like, what? No. We can't be doing that now. Like, we're literally just foregoing evidence because Brittany's annoying.

So we're just not going to listen to what she's saying. Like, Tony would never. Yes, she would. She made a career off of doing this. Like, what? That was such a strange spin zone. The whole thing,

the way that all of this happened was just a spin zone and denying that that happens or taking things out of context. I do think somewhere in my brain, it makes a little bit of sense because it does, it is very reminiscent of Lala, end of VPR seasons, trying to make something happen, and making something up, trying to create some sort of drama.

But that only occurred to me when someone said later in the episode, I think it was Nia or whatever, actually it was Brittany. She's like, hey, are you really not going to believe? Like me and Lala are both saying the same thing. You're not going to believe us. I'm like, I don't know if I would either, but I just think it's just where they are. The Zach thing is beyond me. I mean, it makes sense.

It probably makes sense to you too. He does those little jokes where he's like, yeah, you know, Giants like really piss me off, but she hasn't done anything to actually piss me off. I'm still just like a little mad at her. I'm moving whatever. And I'm going to make some jokes here and there. If Nia is going to say, oh, that's your best friend. When she says it, Nia means something different and she is trying to manipulate

Zach for sure. But when Zach receives it, he's like, ha, yeah, I'm going to kill you because she's not really my best friends. That's all that's really going on. Again, not a fucking big deal. Not a big talking point. It's not like a judgment of Zach's character. He's just dicking around.

Like, who really cares at the end of the day? This is just what it's all amounted to this. this is where we are at the end of the season is talking about whether or not Nia is the ringleader. Well, you know, Kristen said that she doesn't try to manipulate you, but Nia does. It's like, what are we talking about here?

Like, yes, I do like that we seemingly have Nia caught red-handed or whatever because Kristen said something. And maybe that's a little bit moving in the right direction for Brittany and Lala and maybe the rest of the crew. But it does nothing for us. Like, it's so stupid. Yeah, I think my biggest problem with it is that, you know, is it a big deal?

Is it a talking point? No, but that's, as you said, where we're at in the season. But since we do have to talk about it, I do not get just the blind support and following of Nia and Danny. And like,

Doty. And like, I don't get why we can't at the very least question these things, talk about these things, try and get to the bottom of these things. If we do have to talk about it, again, I agree.

This is a non-issue. I don't care. But if this is the point of the argument, then at least hear people out because to me, all it's done is highlight and finally expose how people actually feel about other people. This shows Brittany like, hey, nobody takes you seriously. Zach and Doty don't really like you. Your friends by default because you've known each other for a long time. There's no respect there, which I think is bullshit because I do think Britney's had a good

second half of the season. And she has been being honest. Like she's been trying to tell people what's up. It's just because who she is. Now you know, Brittany, like they do not take you seriously. They think you're a joke. And that's sad. And they're not your real friends.

But amidst all of this, you get Jesse trying to have a moment at the finale. And he pulls Michelle for a talk. Well, you've been secretly dating this comedian. And you said he went to Vegas for work. But instead, you were out there hanging out with this comedian. And you introed him to Isabella and blah. Shut up. And like he's trying to use the Aaron thing as an example.

It's like, dude, I agree about the Aaron thing. Michelle jumped the gun. That was messy. I'm sure the fallout from that is still going on. The confusion. Yeah, totally. Jump the gun on the move in, jump the gun on all of that. I think she's learned her lesson.

I think if we can say anything about both of Jesse and Michelle, you guys do have Isabella's best interest at heart. Like you guys do care about her. And you're seemingly good parents to her. So don't make a mountain out of a molehill because she's dating somebody and you just want to have your moment. Like, it's just stupid. That's literally, that's all he wants to do. And he's still harboring some resentment for the Aaron thing.

And then as soon as he started dating Lacey, clearly Michelle had the issues with that. But they have gotten past that, not to like bring up Luke and Doty with all the like, we got past that. We resolved that. They have actually gotten past that. Clearly, Jesse's just like, oh, all right, let me get the last word in here because I had a problem. with Aaron. You told me to go fuck myself. You had a problem with Lacey. I didn't understand that because of what you did with Aaron, but we did resolve that and move forward. But now I can get the last laugh. Now I can get that last word in there and say, whoa,

you're introducing Isabella to another guy. What is the second guy in two years? You basically moved in with Aaron. Like, in a way, sure, like this is not the time or the place to have that conversation. It's also just not the tone. Like maybe check in with Michelle. You guys are good. you guys are good you guys finally signed your divorce papers you're moving forward with all of that but you're also moving forward with co-parenting and you're in a much better place and lacy's in a much better place than michel don't stoke the fire have a sit down see about it ask her a question don't accuse but also don't do it on the camera like this isn't this isn't the time or the place there's no reason to do this right now none whatsoever like you said a big big part of it it's just the

tone ask her hey i heard that you introduced isabel to somebody and then she can tell you like oh, no, like I had a listing. She was with me. She met the guy. And I ended up dating him after the fact, but it wasn't a setup. It just happened that way. Done. Be adults.

Stop trying to do Jesse shit and cause chaos for no reason. But Danny's drunk, shocker. And I think the point that Janet makes is actually not a bad one, where it's like, if Jason had woke up one day, because Danny does the same thing. Well, he's blackout and she's blackout. blah, blah, blah. The point is multiple people, if they had the same night that you did, in which you grabbed somebody's ass, they wouldn't keep putting themselves in that spot to try to prove a point.

That's the big problem here. Danny continues to try to prove a point in getting drunk around people, and each time he does, he's an asshole. He's a piece of shit. And you're going to try to say all the Danny defenders, well, they provoke him, and they poke, they poke. No, no. you don't get to blame like he does it at the end of this like these people bring out the worst

to me it's like you're blaming everyone else for you being a piece of shit that's so on par but during all of this as he's stumbling around we get conversations between other people Jason and this is important it was small but it's important Jason goes up to somebody thinking it's Natalie yeah Natalie and immediately is like oh my god I'm so sorry it's mortifying Zach this was probably my least favorite moment from him ever because Zach goes Sounds like he made a mistake. Trying to compare that to what Danny did and saying, see, people make mistakes. Yeah, but Jason didn't go up and smack her ass.

One, two, he thought it was Janet. And three, Danny did not make a mistake. Danny intentionally grabbed Melissa's ass and then told Jasmine to go get Daddy a drink. He knew who he was talking to. He knew what he was doing. He had intention behind it. And that's what he did. Jason walked up to somebody.

So for Zach to compare the two, to try to defend Danny, I thought was stupid. I thought it was disgusting. And I thought that that was such a perfect example of these blinders that they have for Danny and Nia. To not be able to objectively look at the situation and say what Danny did was fucked. Period. End of sentence. And then you can go about whatever defense of him you want. But to not acknowledge what has happened, the further we've gotten away from it, the more that Doty and Zach are trying to sweep it and say it wasn't that big.

of a deal. That's that's really annoying and it's pretty gross. Yeah, this was also where I had to tap out for the discourse online because there was so much like oh, Jason went up to another girl. That's not even the hairstyle that Janet had. It's like, oh, fuck man, like, I hate

this show so much. Like, look, if you think that Jason meant to do what he did and then he tried to excuse his way out of it and apologize his way out of it, I'm not going to tell you what to think. I don't fucking care enough. But it's just gotten so bad.

Like, the discourse online for this show is so grimy and brutal to go so far to be like, Jason meant to do that for sure. He ran up to Natalie grabbed her. He wanted to cop a feel. It's like, no, like, nobody got that. Like, nobody in a normal circumstance gets that from that situation. It's like, dude, are you fucking stupid? Are you drunk?

Don't do that again. Move on. Like, he was mortified afterwards. He apologized 50 times. Natalie seemed fine. She seemed to realize it was a mistake. Just move on. Like, that's just where this show has taken.

us is now we have to analyze this and be like, no, was that sexual assault? Was Janet throwing a drink assault? Like, I hate this show. I really do. I hate this show and I hate the people that really like this show, like really like this show. And not for like the motherhood stuff, not for like raising kids and doing all that. Fine, go ahead and enjoy it for that. I personally don't.

But for the people that really like to get gross and dirty with this show and be like, yeah, this is what we want to see is people making mistakes and doing dirty shit. It's like, no, no one wants to watch that. That's terrible. That should be off TV. I will flat out say, you know, I don't make blanket statements very often, especially about people, because I believe that most people are inherently good and like, whatever. If you like Danny, I don't like you.

I know that for a fact. I do not like you. We would not get along. You wouldn't like me either. So here's the thing. Even like the Melissa and Jasmine stuff aside, the sexual assault allegedly, all of that aside, if you still say, wow, I really like Danny, we wouldn't get along. We would not get along.

We would not get along. We would not be friends. Nope, not in a millionaires. But Nia goes to talk to Zach and the whole Doty manipulating. Zach thing comes up. And this conversation just kind of highlights the stranglehold Nia seems to have on people because Zach is backpedaling so fast to try and clear this thing up. Doty jumps in to try to clear this thing up.

And that's when Brittany joins in. And we get the full story. but it's so annoying. So as they explain what happened, Brittany says this is what Doty had said. Mala says, this is what Doty had said. All of it true.

We watched it happen. I didn't say that. I never said that. I would not say that about Nia. Nia, I would never say that about you. admits in her confessional that she did say it, but then tries to say,

that's not what I meant. I didn't mean manipulate, like manipulate. Like, it's funny. like Zach's laughing. Like, this is terrible. This is terrible that Brittany would even try to say this a lot.

I thought you were my ride or die, Brittany. This is what I feel bad about when it comes to Brittany. Because she is a ride or die for a lot of people. But it is not reciprocated in her friendships. People expect Brittany to do X, Y, and Z for them, but they never show up for her. And you may not like Brittany, but that's not fair.

And she needs to look at her friends and really, think like who do I really want in my circle because none of these people actually have your back no no none of them do uh this is again just not a big deal but it's what the season has amounted to i think the right way to approach this like it makes sense the way christin's just not admitting to it it's like whatever i don't care and then going to her confessional of yeah i said that but i didn't mean it that way it's like whatever we're playing semantics now now we have to do this but la la go into a professional and saying, I know why Kristen's doing this. The only reason that she would like inherently or or do like deny it immediately is

because we're right in front of Nia, which then leads me to believe she doesn't want Nia to think that she's talking shit because Nia is the actual ringleader. It's like that's where we have to go. Like really that's the big reveal at the end of the season is just trying to push it to. Nia is really pushing the stones here. Nia is really making sure that all of her ducks in a row and it's like, yeah, probably. But I don't care. it's just not compelling.

It's so stupid and so boring that these people in their 40s are like, who's the ringleader here? Oh, it's Nia. For what? To do what? To be mean to Janet when Janet, like Janet doesn't,

she's not a good person. She's not cold. Like, whatever. Who gives a shit? How do they? How do you have the time? Yeah.

Who cares? Like I genuinely believe this. Who cares? If this whole show is just about like interpersonal relationships, yeah, there's a lot there and a lot of it's really dark and we don't really need to see it. And I don't really care for. it, but at least that would make sense.

Then we get to the friend aspect. It's like, oh, God, like, why are you guys even friends with each other? I don't understand this. You're grown-ups. You don't have to do this. Oh, you can move on with your lives. Yeah, again, like, I really don't know who has the time to try to navigate and change dynamics within a friend group like that.

At this age, you're either friends with somebody or you're not. But, like, the bowing down to, like, the leader of the group and the shuffling of who likes who and when and why. like God damn it, stop. This is why the show is terrible. Like no one takes you people seriously. But Jason and Danny have a little hoopla, I guess. And Jason clearly had an agenda going into this, which fine.

I don't really have an issue with that. And he calls Danny out for the stuff. He said to Lala. Then Janet and Lala joined. Danny says, I didn't say any of those things. And again, we're playing the semantics game. Then he says what he actually said. And as everything's trying to,

transpire. Everything's taking place amongst all of these people. Danny again has used this defense a million times. He's trying to use it again. Well, Jason blacks out too. Yep. And he doesn't grab anyone's ass. So that's anyone that thinks that's a good defense, it actually is bad for Danny because you're saying that all these people drink a lot and have bad nights. And even during their bad nights, they don't grab strangers asses. They don't grab friends asses. They don't grab friends asses. They don't do anything that could be labeled sexual assault. Did he grab her ass? I don't know.

I don't think he put his hand on her back. I think he put his hand on her back. I have no idea. But thank God. I know you're thinking of the same thing I am. Thank God that information did not get to Danny and Nia. Oh, yeah. I'm sure it's going to come out of the union where it's like, oh, what about this?

Reading that. It'll be like the first topic of the reunion because they want to do that. Like that's, that is so frustrating to me. I'm going to have to like take an edible. next week before I watch and before I recap because I am not I'm not going to be here for talking about all that that's going to suck and again the biggest biggest points intention what happened defense up like the intention is where Danny sets himself apart there and if he did grab her ass then there's a conversation to be had I thought he put his hand in her back I'm sure we'll talk

come out at the reunion, but it's not the same thing. And they're going to try to use it as the same thing, which again, is minimizing Melissa's experience, Jasmine's experience, because now we're going to compare it to Jason putting his hand on Natalie's back and then immediately going, oh, my God, I'm so sorry, didn't know that was you. I thought you were Janet. Like you said multiple times, I despise that this is what we have to talk about now. I hate it so much.

I thought we were supposed to get Jackson Lorry in this episode. What happened there? It's probably, I told it, just going to be that tack on five minutes at the reunion, like they did with Raquel. That's going to suck. It's Jeremiah's Hail Mary. I'll save this show. Bring Jacks back.

Watch this. If they cancel the show, you have to cancel Jeremiah, too. He can't do any other shows. I'm going to write an email. He's 0 for 30 in the past three years. The guy sucks balls. But after everyone's joining the conversation, it's like an attempt to have a quote unquote man-demand convo and you know,

Lala's telling Janet to let it go. Like this is not your problem. Like this dude is is a lost cause, which I agree with. And then now Danny's pointing his finger in people's face. Jason's like, don't point your finger in the face and blah, blah, blah. And then Janet throws a cup at him, which in hindsight, probably not the best. Shouldn't have done. I mean, one, it's, yeah, you shouldn't throw things of people into.

But like on a network where, you know, we praise table. flips and stuff. Like, I think, and now people clutch their pearls at, at a fucking seal cup toss. So, fucking soft.

Like, you know, what it all started was, uh, the Jen Aiden and, what was it? Jen Aden and who? Oh,

um, what's her face? Danielle. Blot, Danielle, yeah. Jen Aiden and Danielle were the cup broke, but it was a plastic one,

but it's still broke and it could have cut me. Like, it all went downhill from there. I agree. The fact that we're like, oh my God, this is a salt. this is what we're good he people are saying yeah dude it's brutal that's embarrassing yeah it's

we've gotten so soft as a bravo community we need to just we can do better guys we need to get to get in the fuck up because again it's a plastic cup everyone's fine my only issue in the face that would have been still okay i would have been so happy yeah i wouldn't catch a case and i would have gotten to see dana get smacked it would have felt so good but the only reason that i don't think she should have done it. It gives them out. It gives them ammo. Because now they can say, oh, see, we're the bad guys, but everyone instigates.

Everyone provokes us. And you throw things at us. And that's what happens immediately. We've returned back to the party. Danny's walking around. He tells Nia. Nia tells everybody. Zach acts like someone just kicked a puppy.

Yeah. Kristen looks at Janet. She's like, I think you should leave now. And Janet's like, why? He's an asshole. Like, yeah, maybe I shouldn't have done it. I regret it. Lala steps in.

Lala's like, yeah, I told her not to do it. I think she would take it back if she could, but like, it is what it is. It's not the end of the world. It happens, whatever. And then Danny's like, you know, this is just what happens. These people bring the worst out in me. It's like, oh, my God. Why are we doing this?

Yeah, and thankfully Danny and Nia are the ones to leave. And they're like, that was probably my favorite part, which, you know what? One last little shot that I have to take in here by the end of the season. When Nia walks in and she's like, we have to get going, go grab the baby. you brought your fucking baby I was like you brought the baby again? I said the same thing. Like God.

Maybe get a goddamn babysitter. I can't with these people anymore. I know there's like other things going on and she's got to be fine. Like to an extent. She doesn't have to be at the Halloween party. Like what are we doing here? I don't know. That was the cherry on top of the whole season.

It's like, get the baby. I was like, you guys suck. You guys fucking suck. Christine. Let's go to question. questions. I got a funny one out of the gate. Christine D.

Philippus, was it worth watching this season? God, no. Don't do it. If you're thinking of like, should I watch, don't.

No reason to. Save yourself. Yeah. Maddie Reagan one, was Jasmine intoxicated? Because why was she coming so hard for Michelle? Oh, yeah,

that was weird. We didn't talk about that, but like, I look, they were talking about trash. Jasmine's like, I'm from Jersey, so I say that.

You're from Chicago. You're trash, too. I'm just happy Philly didn't get lumped into that. Yeah, we usually. you know we're usually part of that action um but i don't that was weird and also strange not worth talking about because i i don't care agreed let's see uh guys people out in here ask a lot of

questions uh it's just there's people are so insufferable sometimes a bachelor omalley has shooter missed his calling as a PR fixer for bravo lebs i i would not last that i mean i would that would that would be a fun job to be honest. I don't know if I would last that long. Oh, that was my favorite thing from this week. Somebody found Lori did an AMA on Reddit like years ago talking about being a PR person and like representing reality TV people. And everything she said was just contradictory to her dating Jacks.

Yep. So, I mean, not to say I would date Jacks if I was a PR guy. But, you know, I think I would lose my mind because some of these people are just so fucking stupid. that it's just so difficult to get through to them. Let's see. The different cakes people have are just... I know.

From Myra Helwig, would you rather have been a guest at Halloween or the pre-op crab boil? Halloween. Probably a crab boil for me. I think Halloween because at least I could just kind of be in the corner with a trusted group of people if, you know, people exist like that over there and make fun of everybody. So I think I would do that.

from Dilladeanera. How is Lala the pillar of this show? If you were producers, how do you save it? Cancel it. That's how you save it? Get rid of it. Put it out of its misery. Agreed.

Oh, this was funny, too, from Brie Polo. Danny smells like alcohol because he drank all of the alcohol. That was the best part when he is like, no, he smells like alcohol. What do you mean? Did you see Jesse holding him up actually trying to get him water after water after water this dude is blacked out are we not going to talk about him being blacked out at all no of course not no we never would let's see pretty rickie 22 are these the most exhausting people on tv they sure are yeah yeah absolutely uh from it's holly holla count bucula more like count me out

love it well done it's good yeah this is a good point is a good point and Katie Shaw's yours. Janet would have won the episode had she not thrown the drink. Yep. Yep, she was doing fine. And then that was kind of the icing on the cake. And again, it's going to give so much ammo at the reunion that I do not care to hear. Yep.

From Kate Elfman, who all the cast are we actually still invested in having a hard time rooting for anyone? No one. Literally no one. That's the biggest issue. If you want to just put your finger on one thing, yeah, Michelle, if you want to put your finger on one thing as to why we're not invested. in the show. It's because we don't care about anybody on the cast. We don't like any of them.

You know, Freya KV, this is such a good point. How do you feel about people saying Janet's cup throw is a salt, but Danny isn't a problem? This is so, this is a microcosm of today. The inability to blame somebody you support. It's fucking right there. Yes, both can be. Both can be wrong. we could say that.

But if you are going to claim that Janet throwing a cup is assault, then you better fucking claim that Danny grab an ass as assault. If you don't, you're a fucking cuck and you're a loser. Yeah. And to tack on to that from Kieran McDee, can you guys clip the red cup hitting Danny's head and loop it on your socials to watch over and over, please? We won't do that because we don't condone assault on this show.

Nice. I might do it. Let's do a couple more. From T-Gal Nail, Danny and Nia have to go. Enough. I agree. From Ariana Tici, when will it be over? Three episodes.

And then we get at least some time off. But I think it's going to get canceled. I'm putting it into the world. I'm going to get some crystals. Oh, wow. Good for you. I like this one for Murph, Murph Addy. People pretending someone is more interesting than they are is how you get.

get a Danny or a Luke. Yeah. Insightful. I like that. Yeah. From Bravo, Chelsea, if you were friends with Danny, how would you handle a convo with him about his behavior? We wouldn't be friends with Danny.

So can't do it. I can't even think about it. I can't even like cosplay. Yeah. No, there's no world in which, like, I just simply wouldn't be friends with somebody like that. I don't have time. Yeah. From AML 4712, not a Danny fan.

but am I wrong in thinking he was removing his drunkenness from the party and Janet slash Jason were looking for screen time slash drama? He was probably not removing himself because he was so blacked out drunk that he didn't know what he was doing. He was probably about to fall asleep. But yes, you are probably correct that Janet slash Jason were just looking for some screen time and some drama. Again, as we said earlier, two things can be true.

And both had suck. Yep. Like Ryan Stom, it's okay for Janice. to assault someone you better say that about fucking danny too then dude like i swear to god like that's it's not even like a good bit like you all of these people that have this smoke for janet and the cup you didn't have any smoke for danny grabbing ass that's fucking embarrassing i'm sorry like this is the point this show has got me to it's just frustration like if you i ah you better have had smoke for danny if you are going to claim that that

that Janet throwing a solo cup is a salt. And if you really are dying on that hill, that throwing a solo cup is a salt, you're a loser. Yeah, fair. Let's do this one from Lash 16. I wish Janet would have just punched Danny. The cup throw was lame. I hate the show.

Good job. Yes, that's it. Yes. And Ryan Stoneman, I'm not calling you a loser. We've had a long relationship. We love you. But there better be smoke for both sides. Please.

Whoever just said that last one, That's it. They just encapsulated it perfectly. Yeah. We'll end on this one because we'll figure it out. But from Uni-Su, now that we've seen three seasons of the Valley, how do we feel about House of Stasi? House of Stasi is what the valley was supposed to be, but Bravo decided to pay the wrong

people. Bingo. That's it. Now, let's put this thing to bed because I'm just getting progressively more aggravated than more we talk. Yeah. Okay. See you guys at the reunion.

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