Bros & Shows - Cya RHOBH, Don't Let the Door Hit Ya (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 12, 2026

What's up bros? What a momentous day it is to be a BravBros because we say goodbye to the bane of our existence for the last (what seems like) 10 months, RHOBH! Well, not much more to say about this one because they decided we needed a 3-part reunion to rehash the same issue we've already talked in depth about but, we do our best to not get sidetracked entirely with dreams of this show actually turning into watchable television. CYA! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, we did it. And at some point during this episode, watching it, I realized I'm not even hate watching anymore. I've reached the point of Amanda from Summerhouse in her marriage, where I want to blow up my friend group by having sex with like you. But I mean, wait, no, where I'm indifferent towards the show. That's what I meant to say. I'm indifferent towards.

It takes a lot to shock me. I mean, I don't know if it's just like us recording in the morning versus whatever, but wow, God. Well, I was thinking of, I will say I planned that joke. It came to my head earlier. I was getting out of the gym. And I was trying to think through like, what would be the equivalent of like the West Amanda situation?

I was like, honestly, because we're all so close and I've been all best friends since high school, that would be the equivalent like me having sex with you. What does that have to do with Beverly Hills? Because the other joke, the other part of the joke is what I meant to say was I've now reached what Amanda has in her marriage. I'm not even mad. I'm just indifferent. Oh, other way with it. And then I said, oh, wait, I meant to say this.

You see? Good, good levels to that. I mean, all I have to say ding dong, the witch is dead. We can move on with our damn lives. But we have we have enough time here to just eviscerate it. Let's just, you know what? Here's your hate watch warning. here's everything morning.

We're just going to blow through this and absolutely kill them today. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma. And yes, I am a bitch.

Brov Bros. Good morning, everybody. And welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only. No more Robha Magoutes. What's up, dude. What a way to wake up.

Honestly, the last couple of days have just been bliss. I mean, I'm not even thinking about anything else. The one sore spot on the Bravo schedule is gone. Now, we do have a couple shows ending, but we're going to celebrate the ending of this one. You know, this is not going to be a, oh, man, what are they going to do? Like they have so many options. Like they do have options. Let's not be fooled here.

They do have probably more options than any other franchise that they can plug and play, maybe them in the OC, which oddly enough, those are the worst two franchises right now. They have so many options to bring back whoever you want, go out and get a free agent. They're not going to do a damn thing. They are going to run back this lineup again. And I'm fully convinced. I think the funniest part is by the end of the reunion, due to, her reunion performance.

Amanda's the MVP of the season. Like she wins the season, which is ridiculous because she's still irritating. But what I will say about her, she stands 10 toes down. Like she stands by her shit. She defends herself. She doesn't give in. She doesn't just get pushed over. And everybody else does, except Doreet, but she's on a whole different level right now.

But that was the funniest part. I was like, I'm actually, I find myself gravitating towards Amanda of all people. Yeah. Yeah. what a weird little twilight zone that we're in right now because the beginning of the season we actually said in the beginning of the season like i don't know if i'm going to like amanda but it seems like she's going to get things going in the right direction just with her own behavior i'm kind of back to where i was in the beginning of the season a little hopeful i mean she the way she was able to get through the who knew this was going to turn it there's just a straight up amanda fan fest um but like even just looking at the reunion itself when i look back and we pointed out a couple of moments last week during her package where she was just like, hey, you know, it's my package. I mean, I'll just, yeah, whatever, guys, just just keep going. It's funny.

It's very self-aware. It's very aware of the situation because we all know what's going to happen. Every little detail just goes right back to Doreen Kyle and then all of us just have a collective grown at home. If Amanda can do that in a funny way, which she was able to do it in a funny way, Tilly's able to do it, Kathy's able to do it. It's really just the two friends of and then Amanda. The rest of them I just do not care about like Rachel Zoh, did she even say it?

anything in these episodes? I do. Aside from her husband's girlfriends, like, what else did we get into? Are there like nothing? Underperformance of the century. To come off of that season and then deliver this at the reunion. I mean, there's worse things.

Like, I'm not out on Rachel. She had a great season. She is a big, big, bright spot for an otherwise awful watch. But I'm just upset. I'm upset at her performance. I'm upset at a lot of people's performance because we

just got to watch Kyle say whatever the fuck she wanted. And nobody checked. Like we literally, I was actually proud of Andy. No, but like the line of questioning Andy got into was like, okay, good.

Like he's actually calling out the fact that she was the one roping people in. He was calling out the fact that she was leading these conversations. We got a montage of it. I was like, wow, I didn't think they'd ever do that. Nobody talks. They almost co-sign Kyle because they're like,

well, yeah, you know, I was worried. It's like, no, can we get to the point of, did you say this?

did you initiate? None of you ever did and we're watching a montage and even Bose. Like she's not speaking up. Like, does anybody have a backbone here? Can somebody please at the very least say, you know, I was concerned, Kyle, but I wasn't the one that brought those thoughts up. You did. Dude, the new Beverly Hills reunion trope is acting like Kyle doesn't have power. Like they make, they openly make Joe to not at all. That was ridiculous. And it is the worst possible thing they can do. Like, if you really just want a way to piss me off, it's to mock all of us at home. Like,

yeah, this show's never going to change because Kyle won't let it. And then go to the reunion be like, well, yeah, everybody thinks that Kyle's got hiring, firing power. Yeah, don't you, Kyle. It's like, she does. She fucking does. Like, I don't know what you want us to say. And you guys can mock it all you want, but the fact that you're going to do it every reunion,

this is three straight reunions that they've done it. It's not funny. It wasn't funny the first time. The first time it was like, ironic, maybe a little bit. But now it's like, dude, you're just looking us in the face. What was the saying, you're pissing on my back and tell me it's raining? Yeah, that's what they're doing to us. I know.

And the fact that Erica is then going to forget the fact that she said that before to Doreet, where she's like, yeah, Kyle has that power. And she's like, I said that. I didn't say, yeah, you did. You all did because you all know that this is true. And the funniest thing is as you watch this reunion, you see Kyle highlight what she's not bringing to the show. And she catches herself and she shuts up and rewords it.

She was literally saying, I thought Doreet did a good job in the Mo questioning in, okay, if that were to happen with Mo, would you be honest? Would you talk about it on screen? Would you show your emotions? It was a great point in an otherwise awful reunion. And her response was, well, you know I don't talk. I've been approaching it differently.

She stops. She said, you know I don't talk about it, but she caught herself and changed the wording. It's like you literally just admitted that you're not open and honest with this show, that you don't do what you're supposed to do, what's in your fucking contract until we know two years later when no one gives a shit that's when she's going to talk about it i.e. Morgan Wade at this reunion. Why the fuck are we talking about Morgan Wade? No one cares anymore, but now you can talk about it because

nobody cares. They literally we're just like slapping us in the face going, ha ha, you guys are fucking idiots. This is and it's like the scheduled component of every Beverly Hills reunion. We always start off. And these not tough enough. on his line of questioning. He has one little spark where he actually starts asking important questions. And then you see why he doesn't ask, or he just doesn't even bother with those questions because he gets nowhere, because he knows and whether Kyle has it in our contract or they just know and it's unwritten, whatever it might be.

There's no point in asking those questions. I mean, we talked about every iteration of Kyle and Derreet and why Kyle was talking about DeRite. Like this was probably the most in depth that we got in episode three about what she was doing and talking to everybody. But if you look back and you actually like, and I would actually just tell somebody to go out and like go to chat GPT and just say,

what were the talking points for each part of the reunion? The talking points for each part will start with. Why was Kyle talking to everybody individually in the group about to read finances? This was a more in-depth conversation. But we did it every time. And this is, they were there and they even said because Kathy talked about it

because it was her birthday. Happy birthday, Kathy, I guess retroactively. Whatever. Yeah, whatever. Oh, that big cake. That big cake is mine. That's mine. That one's from Kyle.

Whatever. Like, fuck off. It was 9.930. So you're telling me, they started this damn thing at like 10 a.m. And went until 9.30 talking about this. That's all they talked about. They didn't get into anything else. It was just Kyle and DeReed and Kyle talking about DeReed and then getting everybody else's reaction.

They did that for 11 hours. What are we doing? Why? That seems like such a terrible use of funds that we're going to do this and rent a studio to do this for 11 hours. You probably could have taken all of that money and given it. Just give us an episode of Miami. Like just one. Just let me a little taste.

Let me see what's going on. Just do a special drop. It's an hour and a half trip and it's Miami. Perfect. Make it a movie. Give me a movie of my TV movie. Everybody loves a good TV movie because you actually get some breaks and you can go to the bathroom and grab some snacks and come back. Give me a TV movie of Miami an update of where they are.

are right now because there's a lot of things going on down there. I would much rather watch that than you spend money on 11 hours of Beverly Hills. Yeah, what a slap in the face to us at home that you have the audacity, the balls to cancel or pause Miami, and you're going to continue to put this shit out here. You're going to make me watch Beverly Hills with this garbage, but you're going to cancel one of the best franchises you have. That's ludicrous. Why do you do this to us?

Like, I don't understand. It's almost as though Bravo looks at their family. base and goes, how can we fuck with you this? Yeah. And then they just do something stupid. What was the show? I was trying to think this because when I was watching the reunion over the weekend, I had the thought of they're just talking about the same thing over and over again.

Like, is it even worth it for us to go into like an in-depth recap of like, here's what happened, here's what happened, here's what happened. What was the show that we did? It was a couple years ago where they did a reunion and we were just like, well, this is it was the bachelor at, wasn't it? Oh, no, it was Beverly Hills. it was okay I was trying to think there was a

I thought it was the reunion for the Bachelorette season the Jen Tran one that we did or yeah no no it was it was Bachelor it was Bachelor what's this I can't remember the guy's name yeah oh oh oh

fuck I forget his name too I know you're talking about yeah the basketball guy either way they they went down the path of going through the reunion and just talking about all the important moments and it was like three hours long and instead of us even talking about what happened

to the region. We just talked about how you would fix it. Like the entire, it was, it was 45 minutes of like no breaks, no pauses or anything, just going straight back and forth. Like,

you know what? I would do this. I would do this. Like, that was my thought during this, watching this. I'm like, are we really not going to talk about anything new?

And then I realized there's nothing new to talk about. It's not like there was an important moment. It's really just the whole season was encapsulated by the Italy trip with Kyle and Dorit and then throw in some Erica Jane. and then it was Doreet's book launch or her picture book launch, whatever I thought you want to call it, or picture launch, yeah, great pick.

Yeah, it looks good, like emoji. Like, what do you want to me? We're having very serious conversations. And I love this, and we do this all the time now, especially with Rhode Island, because it's such a great show. And that's exactly what you want your housewives to do.

We're talking about Erica Jane's feelings about how Dorett said, I think you're just going to do this to show up and save your job and do it for the show. That really hurt my feelings, Doreet. Fuck you, Erica. Like, are you kidding me?

You used to be this hard-ass bitch, and now you're a soft little weasel, and you're going to do this and cry and complain because Doreet insinuated that you're trying to save your job on Beverly Hills. By the way, if Kyle wants you there, you've got job security. Like, that's a good segue. Don't worry about it. As long as you're on Kyle's team, you've got job security.

That's why most people do it. Like, they're afraid of Kyle maybe in, like, some sort of. to social setting. I don't know what kind of social standing she has. It's not as high as Kathy's. I would snuggle up with Kathy if you just want like real life social standing. If you want your job on this show, you're just friends with Kyle. But you're going to cry because Doreet insinuated. Like I'm on Doreet's team. Apologize for what? This is a fucking TV show about how we talk about things in our life. Unfortunately, no one wants to share what's going on in their lives. We have to find out that Eric is dating some dude because she's on a face time with them and because she

mentions it three times. We don't get to see any of that. So unfortunately, unfortunately for the majority of the left side of the room, except for Amanda, your job is your life. This show is your life. So if Doreet wants to say, you're doing something to save your job, that is unfortunately us talking about your life. Like, that's where we've gotten with this show. I have no problem with Doreet insinuating that.

I actually like that. Normal circumstances, I'd be like, all right, that's a little petty. It's a little stupid. It's a little cheesy. For this show, it makes total sense. And for Erica to get so upset, like, we need to put a pause on our. friendship if you're going to go that low grow up get a fucking spine like i don't know what happened to erika jane but she is such a soft pussy though i don't know i think that i would imagine

everything she's gone through maybe i don't know but like yeah you're not making excuses you're just trying to make sense of it yeah no no i'm just trying to wrap my head around it i that would maybe do something it's just again we get to these big moments and for example kyle or sorry Doreet and Eric are going back and forth. Okay. And we're kind of getting somewhere. I do still agree. Doreet was being way too confrontational with some of those things.

Like you can concede a little bit. It's not that serious. Like fucking calm down. But at the same time, while they're going back and forth, they need to do this. Not just for their friendship, but for the show. Like we need them to figure something out for better or worse. But once again, it happened to the entire fucking episode, no matter who was talking. no matter what the topic was,

Kyle jumps in. And she's like, oh, well, you didn't have that reaction with me. It's like, yes, what?

I don't understand how she doesn't understand that you will get different reactions from different people. Like, where Derreet is with Erica, is not where she is with you, Kyle.

So when you get a different reaction and response from Derreet, there's a fucking reason for it. And yet you act all like surprised and shit. You're like, well, see, you're doing it again.

You talk to Bose differently. Of course she talks to Bose differently. Bose helped her out this season. She had normal conversation. She took all of your bullshit and took it to Doreet and said, hey, FYI, this is what we were talking about so she didn't get blindsided. And you think you think you deserve the same response as a Bose or even an Erica? No, that's ludicrous.

And it's because of your behavior. And yet we have to sit there and watch you go, oh, I'm just the victim. Big victim card. Oh, my God. Woe is me. What am I going to do? Doreek keeps attacking me even though I try to help. Did you watch the montage that they showed you?

Oh, yeah. Like it's right there. All of your shit is literally back to back to back to back of you forcing the issue upon everybody else and then saying that everybody's saying it. We watched it. And yet she sees that and goes, see, I was trying to help. I'm like, fuck me. I can't.

I don't care. You guys are stupid. You think we're stupid. Maybe we are a little bit. We're not this dumb. And it's just. It's fucking irritating. Yeah, it really is.

Honestly, I'm glad you brought up the montage too because that montage, when they fire that up and they start making references to all the things that Kyle was doing, did you notice they used to do and you used to be able to tell when they had montages lined up, whether it was a package or they're like, oh, we've got this right now. We'll show you. They used to watch the things that happened. Every time that it came to Kyle and the Kyle things that happened this season, they were montages that only. we saw. So they didn't have those prepared. They didn't show those on stage? No, no, not at all. Because you can always tell by their reactions. Like, if they

just kind of continue their sentence right after the montage, that means it was just kind of like looped in there. If it's shown, then you'll see their reactions like, well, I don't remember doing. No, no, not at all. I mean, like, I don't know if Kyle watches the show back. I doubted it at this point. No, I thought they showed it on stage. Oh, yeah, no. You can always tell when they show it on stage because

they'll actually reply directly to what happens. But every time the Doreet was like, you went and did this, you went and did that, you went and did this. If it was Kyle-centric, they didn't have those videos ready to roll to show on stage to show Kyle that she's wrong. It was for us to see. So we saw it. And then Kyle would just continue down the same path that she was already on. So that really pissed me off too, because that just goes to show you like, if we had something that Sutton did, whether it was the wallet comment that she made last year or the crystal pants comment that she made a couple years ago, they had that ready to roll. Like, here you go, Sutton.

You're an asshole. This is what you did. Now watch it and tell us what you think. Every time it's Kyle-centric, they're like, oh, we'll show the audience, but we're not going to show Kyle. We don't want to show Kyle that she was wrong. When she gets caught in a lie or she gets caught in some sort of lie of omission, whatever it might be, Doreet is making good points. Now, the problem with me, especially by the point that we get to episode three is she's making the same point with different words.

And it's like, okay, maybe this time it'll hit. Maybe this time it'll hit. That's her MO. It never does. Yeah, that's her MO. But like, that's where I kind of get caught in like a bit of a conundrum with, with, with Doreet because I'm like, what else is she supposed to do? She's making good points.

We all agree with her. We all understand where she's coming from with the Kyle stuff. And by the time we get to episode three, like, yeah, she's combative. Yeah, she's going to flip out. Yeah, she's kind of fucking frustrated because she said these things. She gets no help from Andy. She gets no help from anybody else in the room. And it just doesn't work.

So it never hits. So she just keeps doing it over and over and over again, which sucks for us, the viewer at home. But for her, it's like, what else do you really want her to do? Like, nothing's getting across and nothing, no point is really being made. no and then I have to sit there and watch and listen to Sutton act like she's not bending over backwards to be friends with Kyle like the Amanda thing and again Durit made good points throughout this episode I thought and were they repetitious sure is that a word that sounds nice it better be I don't know if it is what is now that felt good coming out anyway the questions and points that she made we may have said before but it doesn't really matter because they were good points. And if we're going to keep talking about the same thing, then keep making good points. She points out the fact that out of left field, you decided to snuggle up to Amanda. Now, do I think

that Sutton went into this season with a game plan of I'm going to be Kyle's bestie? I'm going to do whatever Kyle needs. No, do I think that subconsciously she has this need to appease Kyle and that's happening and it's showing up in being friends with Amanda in totally flip-flopping on her opinions about Amanda in being totally team Kyle and the whole Doreet thing. Yes, absolutely. I think that's been since she came on this show. We've talked about it at length.

She has never been part of the cool kids. Love her or hate her. Like that's the truth. So she found an opportunity in Kyle early on. She was like, oh, I like this. I like being part of the cool kids. Then you got shunned because Kyle doesn't like you.

You had a real friend in Garcell that would tell you what Kyle's doing to you what we all see at home you burned her because you wanted to be friends with Kyle you didn't stick up for at the reunion you fucking dog her now she's off the show because she has a fucking spine and a backbone and now you in your first fucking season without her you made it four episodes four episodes and you are right back in Kyle's pocket and then you have the audacity to tell us at home that nobody tells you what to do bruh you You stop it. Stop it.

Roll the tape of I will not bow down to the altar of Kyle Richards. Slam dunk from Doreet, by the way. I was like, absolute great call. Great call. Roll the footage. Don't do this. Just if you're going to be this person, if you're going to snuggle back up to Kyle,

just own it. Own it. I don't care. We all expected it. But don't now. I will say this again because we're just getting pissed on consistently. Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining for the love of God. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, does it change the landscape of the entire season if Sutton actually just stays in her lane where she was in the first couple episodes, staunchly against Amanda, then as actually trying to rekindle a bit of a friendship with Doreet. Actually, yes, that, that, I think it does. I think it really does because it's going to bug Kyle, it's going to frustrate her. And I think that a lot of the things that she does for the rest of the season are probably going to be a little exacerbated. They're going to be a little bit more boisterous. She's going to obviously be losing her cool a lot more because she doesn't have the same people. I think Erica, the majority of the season until we got to Italy was kind of just Switzerland. And then we got used to that.

And again, I don't think it's right. We want her to show up. She started finally showing up right before Italy. Then Italy was okay. And then right after that, it's like, okay, you're back in Kyle's pocket. And like the big dun dun dun dun scene with her and Sutton like that does absolutely nothing for me. But I do think it changes the season at least a little bit where it's a little more watchable if Sutton just stands her grounds. Like look at Amanda and be like, why?

I don't really care if you like Amanda or not, but you should be looking at Amanda and be like, why is Kyle standing up for this woman? We know nothing about her. She hasn't really introduced herself. All she does is defend her job. There's a lot more there. Let's look into that.

And then try to figure out why Kyle is on her team, why Kyle is standing by her. That doesn't make a ton of sense. And then talk to it to read about it. And then maybe you get Rachel into the fold. Maybe you've got someone else in the fold, whatever it might be. You can sit down and kind of discuss everything.

And that makes a lot more sense for the season. Instead, it was, yeah, I'm just going to do a complete 180. And we even said it at the time when we got to Italy, I think weirdly enough, and I should have seen the writing on the wall, but I didn't. I don't know what it is with this show. I just miss things because I want it to be better.

And I just hope that it's not going to take that term for the worst. And it always does. But I do think that we even said, nah, I don't think that Sutton's rooming with Amanda because of that. Like, it kind of makes sense. Like, it's a girl's trip. Like, go room with her, see what she's about. Maybe we'll get some good conversations.

As soon as she got there, she was just immediately, friends of Amanda. It's like, when did this happen? It was more the defense of Amanda and everything people were saying. Like, don't do the chat GPT thing, telling her about the chat GPT thing. It's like, where did, it's so lame. That came, what, what happened? An episode ago, you would have been like, yeah, what does chat GPT have to say about it? But now it's over the line. It's too much. What the fuck happened between you two? Because we don't know. We didn't see anything. Well, and I think, I think that's a really good point too, because if we go back to that car, when, uh, Bose starts pulling up the chat GPT stuff.

They're in that car with people who have questioned Amanda, Sutton being one of them. So if I'm Bose and I'm pulling this up, I'm assuming this is a safe space. Like, yes, there's patterns there. But it's a safe space. I can pull this up in like a shady way and just see what this is about. I'm not expecting Sutton to come out of left field after spending one night with Amanda in a room and being like, uh, that's uncomfortable. That's, you shouldn't be doing that. That's, uh, we shouldn't be looking up bad things about Amanda.

It's like, what the fuck? Like a week ago, you were at her house and called her a crybaby. This week, you're telling me that I can't look her up on chat GPT to see what she's about. This doesn't make any sense. So if I'm Bose, I'm like, where the fuck did that come? And then all of a sudden, everything just starts to change. I think it does. And again, the season wasn't good before Italy, so I'm not going to act like it was.

But at least then, like, you do have some questions answered where it's like, what just happened here? Like, we had a good divide going on. And I think Sutton could have easily done that without losing her friend. with Kyle. Like I don't think that you did have to move immediately into the Amanda camp just to lose Kyle as a friend. Like you probably could have had both, but she doesn't know how to navigate those waters. She only knows one thing. And it's it's so repetitive on this show. Every season that we've seen Sutton on here, it always turns into what can I do to please Kyle today? And it gets to that point either in the first episode or by the end of the

season. So it doesn't really matter. It's going to happen every time. But I just don't really know. and we always talk about this after a third reunion like who's going to come back who's not going to come back everybody everybody i've already made my piece with it and it's the ugliest piece that i've ever seen but uh i've made my piece with it like there's no way they make any changes i do they bring back like there's rumors now that it's like well will teddy mellencamp come back it's like i don't care sure that's not going to change anything like there's nothing they can do at this point aside from removing Kyle or bringing back LVP, which will never

happen, that'll actually make me interest in. Exactly. And LVP might be able to make the needle move, but at this point, she's not going to do that. And would she even deliver? Like, I don't know. LVP was great back in the day, obviously, and she was a big part of this show. But times have changed.

Like, I don't know how that lands anymore. I do know that we've seen on multiple franchises the plug and play of previous cast members. It has not really worked out pretty much across the board. So I don't know, I don't know where you go. I don't know what they do.

I do know for a fact, like you said, nothing will change. We may have an addition of a friend of. They're going to run this exact same cast out. We're going to do the same bullshit because now after this reunion, they're going,

ooh, we have so much unresolved stuff that we can pick up the cameras in two months and see where they're at. And we're not going to have enough time in between. They always do this. They rush to film. You didn't have anything to film this season.

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It's more so painting her in like a terrible financial situation. It's a very, very nice painting of P.K. Being very nice to her, which obviously seems manipulative. But he's pretty much going through all of the things. things she spends money on. And he said that she spent like $300 to $500,000 in three months just on clothing, which I kind of believe, I kind of believe. But in the same sentence, it was, you spent all this money, but you're telling me that you can't take the kids on vacation. So you need money from me, but you're spending this much. Like I have all of your finances.

I forwarded it over to our lawyer. That divorce is getting incredibly messy. So that one, okay, if we get more, I don't really, I don't really, I don't. know. This is like a button I don't like to hit, but at least if we get into that and to reet is somewhat forthcoming with all the shit going on, that might be somewhat interesting to dig into, but it's not going to matter because we're going to be going through that. We'll have our one-on-one scenes with Derreet sitting down with a divorce lawyer or a life coach or whatever it is. And she'll be talking about all of those things. And then we'll go over to Kyle. And Kyle will be like, yeah, you know, she's got really dead financial problems. I got this text

message from PK. Did you guys see this? It's like, I already know how that's going to go. And like you just said, they're going to pick up cameras very quickly because they want to see the Doreet stuff. We're going to get the same thing. It's going to be copy and paste from last year. It's going to be Dorek going through all these things. She tries to talk about it with Bose. They're interesting conversations, whatever.

And then you go over to Kyle who's questioning everything. But she's not. She's doing it out of a place of concern. Will Erica be friends? I don't care. I really just don't care about any of this stuff. There's just zero investment in any of this. Now, like Amanda, yeah, bring her back.

I'm fully on board with her. She's earned her spot. In a very weird way, she has earned her spot. And maybe she'll grow a little bit in the second season. I have no idea. Rachel saw glimpses, not to cut you off just real quick, because I'll forget. You saw glimpses in this reunion, especially this episode of her kind of reeling it back a little bit, being a little bit more authentic. I felt like I actually was like, okay, this seems like a real normal response from you.

And I liked it. Like that, that's all we really need. She can be delusional. She can be quirky. She can be weird. She can be scamming people out of a lot of money. I still don't love that. But if she's just herself and not trying to put on every single scene, fine.

Like that's, you've earned your spot here. And I would much prefer to watch that. Yeah. What I saw in this episode specifically than whatever the fuck I watched all season. I think a scene with Amanda sitting down with Kyle talking about her manifesting money. after her divorce would be very funny. Admittedly, that would be very funny because it would make Kyle so uncomfortable.

And then maybe she turned on Amanda. And then maybe that'll set Amanda down the path. Again, this is what I have to do to myself every year, because I have to just elude myself into thinking, something's going to be watchable, but nothing's ever watchable in the show. And I don't,

well, did we miss anything else? Like, Bose, you were talking about, squeezing her eggs. About to, when you were about to go into Rachel something,

and I cut you off. I don't know if you stuff. Oh, the outlook for Rachel. next season i mean do more like i don't know what this was if we tried to give her the benefit of the doubt she was entertaining when she was on screen i like seeing her home life she's obviously going through a divorce there's definitely some messiness going on in there that i want to see but otherwise she shut down like she really did we we didn't really see her shutting down we thought it was more

let me get the lay of the lands like there's some weird things going on between kyle and der reet i'm kind of shading towards der reed side it's like okay are you going to show up and instead are you going to her. Yeah, like, there was nothing. Like, she just, she was there. She showed up to events, but she didn't speak up for her. She didn't go to Kyle and say, hey, don't do these things. Even in this moment, like when we're talking about all of the conversations that we had

where Kyle goes to Bose and we're trying to, we're playing the game of semantics, which when we're doing semantics on a reunion show, we get nowhere. Like, there's no real answer at the end of the day. But Bose, who is Doreet's number one fan, says nothing in her defense. Like, if anything, she almost kind of cop. to the fact that, yeah, me and Kyle were talking about your finances. Take a stance. Like, don't just do this and play this game where you're like, yeah, you know, I did say this.

I did say that. We have the footage. Kyle called you and said, you're worried about Doreet. You echoed that. And then she went into her finances and you're like, oh, I don't really want to see her in a bad financial position. Then take the stance of saying, I don't know. It seemed like Kyle was coming from a place of concern, but she did bring it up.

And then somebody else can say she brought it up and somebody else can say she brought it up. And then we all are looking at Kyle like, hey, you keep bringing this up. Are you doing it from a place of concern? She's going to talk around in circles for 10 minutes. And then we get nowhere. So there's just nothing more that they could do. And again, nothing really happened this season. But like there was every stone was unturned.

It was just a field full of shitty stones. It was a field full of three stones. Like that's the problem. And we flipped them all over episode one. And we said that. We got done with the first episode. We're like, what now? There's nothing left.

talk about the only thing we missed is now I'm questioning Bose because she said a few things this season that we were like, ooh, especially the stepmom comment. That was fucking weird and we didn't like it and we spoke out about it. Every time that we challenge her now, she's like, that's not what I said. It's like, yeah, you did. She did that with like five things. And I was like, wait, every single time some shit pops up, you either don't remember or you say you didn't say it that way and you try to explain like, this is what I'm.

meant by it. It's like that you can't do that with everything. And she did. So now I'm like looking at Bose like what am I supposed to believe? I've lost faith because every single thing. And that's where Amanda scored a lot of points because Amanda stood by it. She's like, this is what happened. And Bo's like, no, it's not. She's like, yes, it was. That's what you said. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was. That's what you said. Roll the tape. That's exactly what you said. And you make it worse when you're like, who would say that? You, fucking you would say literally you. I mean, And we thought at the time that we were really going to dig into the whole mask comment to, we didn't really touch on that.

We had like a half a second on that. I'm actually not. I'm going to say that I'm not happy about that because we needed to hold Bose to the fire. She did say that. And she remembers saying it. She said it in her confessional. She doubled down and tripled down. Yes.

Was it completely stupid and like wasn't really worth our time for sure? But then when you get back to the table in Italy and Bose is saying absolutely nothing. and somehow Natalie gets held out to the fucking fire. That made no sense. Natalie got fucking trampled this episode. I was like, why I'm going back to. She wasn't even here.

Yeah, I know. Well, Natalie wasn't going to fucking room with her. She didn't want to do anything. What was she doing? Well, she brought a vibrator to Italy and she just decided to jack off the whole time. Yeah, I appreciate that, Kathy. But yeah, I mean, Bose made that comment caused an entire fucking stirrup and then just said, yeah, no,

I don't think I said that. She did. She absolutely did. So have a little Amanda Bowes segment just to get us to like the next level of Kyle and Doree because I know we're going to go back to it. But you should have at least done that for like five to ten minutes and been like, hey, Bose, you did. Here's the footage.

You absolutely said that. Amanda exonerated. Natalie exonerated. Let's talk about Natalie for a second. Why the hell did she catch the fire for that one? That doesn't make any sense. Okay, cool. Let's move back on to Kyle and Doreet.

That's what we should have done. And we just didn't even do that. So that's, again, in a very bad season where there's not a lot to talk about, you could have at least spent five minutes on that. Like that was such a red-handed, you just got caught. What do you have to say for yourself?

And they're like, ah, if they're not going to want to watch this, let's go back to Kyle and Doree. It's, it's Southern Charm with Craig and Austin. It's actually it's Southern Charmed Craig and Austin times like 50. That's a great point.

I don't know, man. Like, that's the thing. You say you wanted them to touch on it more. Like, because then you hold Bose's feet to the fire a bit and she has to respond after seeing herself say it. But then that's your payoff, right?

Like I don't do things for the payoff anymore with this show. I just do it so that we can at least say at the end of our recaps, well, they talked about everything. Like they didn't. And again, for a season that had nothing, you didn't talk about everything. And that's, I think, insane to me. Yeah. And I think, you know, the other W for Amanda is every, every time something.

came up. She was like, I'm sorry. She apologized and she accepted apologies. So we're moving on, which I appreciate from her. But I don't know. You look across this room, both sides of it. And just the big question is, especially if you like this show, which I don't understand how you do, but I'm not going to shit on you. But I want you to go down the line on each side of the room and say what each cast member brought to this season. What was the storylines? What were supposed to be the main storylines? And really ask yourself, is this worth watching?

We could do it in like three sentences, if you're going to be honest. I mean, Kyle's whole storyline was about to read. Eric's whole storyline was, I'm not even going to say that she's dating some guy. It was about being mad at to read. Sutton's whole storyline was dropping her last name and her kid going to college. And then also defending Kyle. Amanda's whole storyline was whether or not her job is fake and the jury's still out on that one. Other side of the room, Jereet's whole storyline, divorce and Kyle.

Bose, Doree, Kyle and Keeley, Rachel, family, question mark, family, also question mark going to Kyle's side, maybe, who knows? That's it. That's all I got. That's literally all I got. You can throw Kathy and Tilly in there if you want to. They were probably the most interesting. You're not going to.

But they were probably the most interesting and thankfully like comedic relief of the season. What are the rest of them do? And the funny thing is when I put out questions this morning, I didn't even put out questions. I just said final thoughts. Like that's it. I don't think because why would we even have questions? There's no questions to have.

We already know what's going on. No. And you laid it out right there. Four of those things were the same thing. Yep. People invested in Kyle and Dorit and Kyle and Dorit themselves. That is not a good show. That's not a good season. We've watched this song and dance for three years now.

It's no longer, it was barely interesting in the beginning. Yeah. Now I don't care. And now I get even more frustrated because Andy's not doing his job and pressing Kyle. We have a few moments in this episode where Andy could really kind of buckle down and be like, well, no, explain yourself in regards especially to the, you're, you're pretty much putting words in people's mouths. And Andy, after Kyle gives every response to his only good line of questioning, he goes,

okay, let's move on. No, poke, prod. You poke and prod, derit. And I'm not even a Dorete fan. But like, the double standard is glaringly obvious. And then to fucking put a cherry on top of this thing, to go back to it for one second. After all of that, after all the shenanigans that we've had to sit and watch for five years now, then you're going to have a whole segment on Kyle not having influence on the show. That's what we started this episode with.

That's what we're finishing it with because again, you will not piss on my back and tell me it's raining. I will not stand for that. Yeah. Well, I mean, we might as well just get to some questions and or statements. I'm actually surprised. We never get good questions in the morning because people don't typically expect us to be recording in the morning.

People are working and stuff. We have a good couple of pages. I just put this up like 35 minutes ago and we've already got a good amount here. All right. Yep, Jay Bay the Hut 713. This show should be given the Jersey treatment of delayed pause for filming.

They'll never do it. Yep. Lindsay Bucks, I'm going to read all three of yours because who cares? Why not? Do you think Andy's clear bias is too much? It derails a lot of discussions at this point and just unprofessional. Can he not roll his eyes at Doreet?

We've seen a lot of bad reunions, other networks, though. Anyone else you'd like to see host or just Andy get it together? I mean, Andy's never going to relinquish, especially for Beverly Hills. He will never relinquish hosting duties. I mean, yeah, we've talked about it in the past. He obviously has a very clear bias towards Kyle. He doesn't like Doreet, so that doesn't help either. But we talked about it and we always go through this roller coaster.

He could ask better questions. He could like make sure that people actually get pressed and he doesn't. But then by the end, we always have the same question. Did he actually do anything? Like, no. There was nothing to really talk about. Blacksmith, Trev, we'll do the same for you. You ask three questions.

Let's get to them all. Up first, is it me or is Bowes trend? Downwards to have me signing with Amanda is a problem you are preaching to the choir my friend yeah read yeah Also now that the show is over which oh I like this which season was worse Beverly Hills or OC season was worse I think so too yeah OC season was was was worse not by a lot but it was it was really bad yeah I mean last one here oh sorry did it more no I was just gonna say I'm obviously usually it's recency bias, but for some reason that that OC season is sticking in my head. And OC, Beverly Hills still has the worst season of all time.

But OC is really, really, really, really on their heels. Yeah, agreed. That brings up like a bad taste to my mouth when I even say OC. But last one from Blacksmith, Trev, it's clear that without Derreet, there truly wouldn't have been anything to talk about. Yes, 100%. Uh, from VAL NT 97, why didn't Kyle just straight up tell Doreet that she didn't feel close to her? And that's why she brought the her issues to folks that were close to her. She said it in confessionals, but not to her.

That's a good point. I mean, we, again, we talked about it with, uh, all the clips they kept showing. Like they showed all of her confessionals. They showed her talking to other people like, yeah, I'm not going to bring this up to Dorete directly because I do think that we're not that close right now. But I am thinking about these things. Again, when she was talking about them, she wasn't. saying I'm really concerned for her. I don't want her to be in a bad spot.

It was I'm not really that close to her. She's spending a lot of money, though, and she's really late for a lot of things. It seems like she's pretty fucked up. It's like that doesn't sound like it's coming from a place of concern. But yeah, she never said it to her. She could have easily cleared the air here and just said, look, we weren't friends. I was concerned for you. Maybe it didn't come out as concerned.

Like she could have said it in a nicer way, but I don't think she even cares. 100%. Agreed. Lana V, too. what a waste of time this season was. Yes. And yet all of you made us watch it. So thank you for that.

Much appreciated. From Royale running, shite, that is all. Yep. Great. Shite indeed. Elliot from Orlando.

What Hollywood celebrity would you add to this cast? Sarah Michelle Geller is my pick. Elliot's pick is Sarah Michelle Geller. Yeah, sure. I don't know. Jennifer Coolidge would be mine. Yeah.

If you're Jennifer Coolidge and Jennifer Tilly on the same cast, I think you have a great show and just get rid of everybody else. Yeah, I agree, honestly. From G made in Italy. What did you all have for breakfast today? I haven't eaten breakfast yet. Me either. I had a cup of coffee and a pre-workout. There you go.

But I'm going to have some eggs and a protein shake after this. From RMEB-124, not a question, but kudos for making it through the season. Thanks for toughing it out for us. Yeah, thanks. appreciate it there's a lot of people that are you know thank the law the season's over uh thank goodness for finished with the season love the pick choice what else this is interesting uh Courtney bridal rush does Bose make Amanda a little more likable probably that might be actually that was such strange segment where like she got caught and she was like no uh-uh I didn't say that

yeah you did I didn't mean it like that was pretty straightforward who was would say that. You would say that. What's happening right now? What am I watching? It's in two different ones. First off, put us out of our misery, Bravo. Enough with Doritos and miserable Kyle. Agreed. And would you bring Sutton and Erica back? Why or why not? Personally, I would get rid of everybody. And why? Because this show sucks. And I want it to be somewhat good. And I do think if they get rid of everybody and bring in a whole new cast, even if the entire cast is, somehow like a replica of this cast, but it's new people. I'll be interested for a season.

And that is way better that I've ever done with Beverly Hills since we've been covering it. Yep. Haiba Durbus says, just no. So happy Kathy stuck up for Kyle, though. I mean, yeah, she did. But all that told me is she wasn't paying attention because she was like, why do you have this energy for Kyle, not for Erica? Like, have you been listening?

She's said it a umpteen times in the past 11 hours that you've been there. So yeah, I hear you. That's nice that sisters stand up for sisters, but that just shows that Kathy has checked out the majority of the time and chimes in to have her moment, then she checks back out. Mm-hmm. Amy B. 526, Kyle's superiority complex is what truly killed this show.

She needs to go. Yeah. Agreed. We've said that for years that Kyle needs to go. And I don't know why she also seems like she doesn't want to be there. So like, is this just her identity now? So she needs the show? because she's been checked out.

She's phoning it in. She literally said this reunion, you know I don't talk, and changed what she was saying. So, like, she's admitting, like, I don't share my life,

but I'm going to have a whole segment, and Andy's going to back me up on the fact that I have shared my life for the past 15 years. I'm not saying that you were not a good housewife at any point. Let's not forget everybody. Kyle was my favorite housewife until four years ago. And then all of this shit started to turn. But that's what they do.

They tell us. Tell us what we're supposed to think and feel. This isn't happening, you idiots at home, too, too. Stop it. God. Let's end on this one. Jamie Gibbs, no thoughts. Just a sense of freedom.

Yeah. I mean, the freedom is true. I also saw Rachel Nicholas comment it and said, I really want to watch ladies of London, but there's just so many things on Bravo. Rachel, if you watched Beverly, Hills the whole time. You should have just been watching ladies of London. But also, I got to remind everybody, Love Island starts on June 2nd. And you know what that means for

Bravo. Now, I did see somebody today say that's going to be the most chaotic day of all time because it's Summer House reunion part two and the Love Island premiere. It's going to be a hell of a day. To hydrate. But once that's over, I mean, Summerhouse is going to have three reunions. That'll be done. this is over with ladies of London is over with we're probably getting towards the end of Rhode Island as much as I don't want to say because we already got the midseason trailer and I would imagine they probably didn't do a full scale season so just something to keep your eye on there

we're gonna be in the bleak times for our old Bravo shows we'll have a couple of housewife shows and maybe one or two others mixed in there but a lot of these shows are coming to an end because Love Island is starting and we know how peacock NBC Universal handles that they put all of their money into that. So it's going to be interesting.

Yeah. And we are ready. We talked about it the other day because it is an absolute slog through for us to cover. We enjoy it until like the last quarter of the season. Then it's like it gets a little hard. But maybe that was because last year we got kind of irritated with the cast. Maybe if it's a really good cast, that last little chunk will still be enjoyable.

But we are ready. We are ready and able and we are going to cover the shit out of it. And it does. I mean, it is nice that Bravo slows down, Love Island picks up because it's such a tough cover. But we're excited for that. That's on the horizon. We are still in the midst of a very good time for Bravo despite this show. There's a lot of really good things on or just finishing. So soak it in, take it all in, because this show that we're covering right now should be a reminder of how bad it can get. And I think, what was it two years ago when we had like a, it was Beverly Hills sucked OCC. sucked. Yeah.

There's a few shows on. I think Atlanta sucked, too. Atlanta was terrible. There's one more, I want to say. But the point is, you know where we can be? We're in a good place. So, like, let's soak this time in and buckle up and get ready for Love Island. Yep.

I agree. That's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. Nope. Nope. Robbros are out of here. Hi, listeners.

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