Bros & Shows - Dancing With the Bros: TikTok + Disney Night Recap!

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

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We took a one-week hiatus, but that doesn't mean we didn't watch it. So don't worry. We're going to touch on TikTok night as well as Disney Night, probably more in depth than Disney Night. But we're going to keep us up to speed, everybody. Don't worry. Yeah, let's be brutally honest here. What's more interesting to you?

TikTok Night or Disney Night? Disney Night for multiple reasons. Yeah, we all know the answer to that one. No, it was rhetorical. Okay, you're asking them. I'm not asking anybody. I was, yeah, whatever. Yeah, we'll break it down later.

Go birds. I got to have me my bros and shows. Bros and shows. Brows and shows. I got to have me my Brows and shows. Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell,

joined as always by the one and only dancing with my goots. What's up, dude? Love that. That really gets me going. What a pleasure this show is. Just a nice, this is like the definition of easy watch. hour and like 40 minutes long or whatever it is, but you can just put it on, walk away during the interim, come back, watch all the dances. It's just a nice show to watch. Well, the funny

thing is if you stream it as we do, you can get through an episode in about 25 minutes. I watch the people I care about. You know, I'll watch their preamble and like the post. But for the people I like the Hilaria Baldwin's of the world, like skip, skip, skip. I just like to watch briefly to see what the sexual tension is between her and Gleb. I was going to say that and I even kind of lost its luster after the first two weeks. Like by the end of week two, I was just kind of over it.

I don't really care anymore. I know it's getting sexual in there. That's enough for me. I don't really need to watch it actually happen. I did notice. You're not a boyer. No. What was that? You're not a boyer. Boyer. Are you fucking French?

I've always said Boyer. Voire. I think that's how it's pronounced. Voyeur. You do this sometimes. I end up being right. And then when I call you out with it, here's the funny thing.

When shooter... What's that French cheese? Starts with a G. Groier. Yeah, so voyeur. They're spelled similarly. So that makes more sense. Actually, G-R-U-Y-E-R-E-R-E.

Yeah. With a little tild, I believe, somewhere in there. But when you do this, and then I end up, being right and then I challenge you I'm like see I told you you just always go yeah whatever like you never care so like it's a losing battle no matter what like I've done this my whole life with you I do that a lot though and like admittedly so I do that all the time and yes I really don't give a shit it's just funny I know it to me and then later I don't care but you'll do your due diligence and be like look look at this out somebody said that I was right and it's like well that person's

wrong too and then I'll just look forward with my life like yeah whatever or you play the like what is I don't remember and then that pisses me off even more uh A lifetime of gas lighting with the Goots Really grinds your ears Podcasts. We could really just have a spit off With that one. Yeah, no thanks. That being said, I've gotten to the point now

where you're kind of going to see the same thing on those interim scenes like every week. And yeah, I get, especially when they go to the ballroom and they've kind of moved away from that, especially at the Disney episode, they just kind of sit at the Disneyland and they're like, here you go. You know why?

Well, yeah, obviously. It's to promote Toronto. aries with uh jared leno that's why amongst other that the whole thing they're like i can't believe we're here at disneyland resort for the 70th anniversary of disneyland isn't that crazy to be here at disneyland every single one you know what we had to do to get ready for this dance Disneyland's it's like you oh my god we get it we understand i was actually um when they did the troop came out and did the the dance to tron i thought they were going to have one of the contestants do a dance to Trond and like, oh, come on.

Who's fucking pushing this? Who got pushed to do this with this show or this movie or whatever? And thankfully it was just the troupe. So like I was okay with it. And the music from Tron is always great. But promoting that movie with that dickhead, I, you know, whatever. I have

expected Jared Letto to pull off a mask and be out there. Like that would be a Jared Leto move because he's so look at me like wants to be in the spotlight that I wouldn't be shocked if he strolled out onto the dance floor and just he's probably in the DMs of every dancer from like 18 to 20 years old

yeah and sending them creepy weird shit in boxes like that's when I was treated to be the Joker of course I was doing stuff like that's like now you're just fucking creep yeah that's when I like I used to be able to put up with him because I liked his early shit like Requiem

for a dream is outstanding like there's a few of his earlier works that he was a yes like he's done some amazing things But when he got to his Joker era, that's when I turned. I was like, you're trying to be Heath Ledger. And nobody can be Heath Ledger. That was a one-of-a-kind performance.

He's doing that and he's also using that as an excuse because it's well documented that when you train to be the Joker, you have a little bit of a psychological breakdown. So I don't believe that he had a psychological breakdown. He didn't. He wanted one and he didn't. He definitely wanted one. That's true. And then he didn't get one, but he saw an opportunity.

I could just do whatever outlandish shit that I want and then say, yeah, I'm a little fucked up from playing the Joker. You were in the movie for like four minutes. Come on. All right. Let's get off a Jared Lotto. I don't want to talk about this.

You don't want to talk about him setting sex toys to his co-stars? Weirdo. But that being said, Disney Night was unbelievable, but we do need to touch on TikTok night because we did not cover TikTok night. We've got too much shit going on. All the shows came back at the exact same time. Steele and I are rattled.

frazzled, and we also have sports going on that are depressing us and sometimes making us happy, but mostly depressing us. Last night made us happy, but still the first half of the game was depressing, and then it got happy, and then it got scary, then it got happy again, as is the life of a Philly sports fan. But here's how we're going to break it out. I'm going to give you, like, three of my favorites from TikTok night, and then we'll talk about like our least favorites slash who gets sent home.

So I thought that Jordan Childs is taking just enormous steps. Leaps and bounds, yeah. Yes, not, you know, no pun intended. and she's a gymnast, but she's really starting. Right, but that's what no pun intended means. Are we going to do this all that? No, but I, I know. I intended the pun.

I understand that because that's the, that's the, wait, do you think that people say no pun intended when they really intended it? It's both. It's both. Fuck you. I am not doing this. Literally not. It's literally I didn't intend to make that pun.

What is wrong with you? It's both. It's both. People in jest will say, ha, ha, no pun intended. although they intended the pun okay but those people are assholes i do that you're an asshole case and point anyway uh yeah uh i thought she was leaps and bounds uh better than she was the week prior and the week before that which is expected she's a world class athlete so she's going to figure this shit out and it's similar to gymnastics in you know your body form and everything like that yeah

she got the highest score i believe with a 24 her and probably did she score higher yeah she just got higher than Whitney. But that's, she got 23, yeah. Yeah, she got a 22. Whitney did last week. Yeah. I'm confusing it with this week then. Okay.

That makes sense then. Hers is great too, though. Hers was great. I think the problem with TikTok night was just like, there's, there's already people, TikTok stars, you know, the Mormon wives were on TikTok so much. They're not that cool of me. The music is just not that great. So it's just played out.

I've heard it. It's incredibly played out. That's very true. true. But dancing wise when I'm watching it, I'm like, I don't know. Yeah, you can kind of do any dance to any song at this point. And I'd be like, wow, that's pretty cool. TikTok night was just kind of underwhelming. And I understand why they did it, obviously. But that being said, I would say, yeah, Jordan took a huge step. But again, she's so athletic. And this is what we were talking about the first week. Once she just figures out to flow instead of like being very rigid

in her posture and like pose for everything, she's going to be fine. because she's so athletic, she can do literally everything. And I like the way that they're going with it. And maybe, you know, it's just her pro dancer that's kind of leading her this way. They're not leaning into, oh, you're a gymnast. Let's just do a bunch of flips and shit. It's like, no, at some point it's going to lose its luster. At some point, we're going to move past it and be like, yeah, we know she's athletic.

Can she dance? So now we're watching her and she's dancing really well. So I'm very, very happy with the progress that she's made. I think she killed it. I think Alex is starting to. step up a little bit more, Alex Earl. She's doing a great job. Whitney is amazing. Professional dancer. She did major in ballroom dancing, but you could say the same about a couple different people that had dancing in their life that started off as professional dancers. Like,

yeah, maybe it's like riding a bike. But Whitney seems to be like fine-tuned. She knows exactly what she does. She's very well, well-polished, if that makes any sense. She just understands where to be at all times and the movements make the most sense. So it's almost like watching two professional dancers when her co-star go up. I agree. And I mean, we have to comment on the fact that at the end of the episode, you're

supposed to play sad because somebody gets sent home. And it was like a bit of a controversy, not like a serious one, but she was trying to celebrate on the side. She was in the frame. And Danielle Fischel was like, hey, and like, stop it. We're sad. I really love Danielle. And obviously, she's fighting

through injury. I think it's really funny because she has a hammy, right? Yeah, she's torn hand. Her issue is. Yeah. You can see and it's really funny, and I'm sure this resonates with you, years and years of watching sports and, you know, one of our favorite athletes comes back, maybe a wide receiver comes back or a shooting guard. You're just staring at their knee and you're like, oh, that looks all right. It's a little too straight. You're not moving. The movement's not great. I was doing that with Danielle. And I'm like, oh, that's, it's training. It's years and years of watching football and basketball and baseball. You're like,

she doesn't trust it yet. She doesn't trust it yet. She's still coming back. Still doing really well. And it's really funny in both of these dances, TikTok and at Disney, the way that she moves, you can see left knee looks completely fine.

She just kind of flails out there. The right knee just kind of skirt, but she does a really good job of overcoming it. And you can't really tell how much of a hindrance it is. So she's looking pretty good out there. And you can't put a score on grit. You know, you can't teach grit.

You really can't teach grit. And we fucking love grit. So I'm rooting for, Topanga and Pasha is like probably one of my favorite pros so like that's a good duo. Plus Mr. Feeney's coming back next week. Is he? Dude,

I just, he's going to be in the crowd. Yesterday I just watched it pops up every now and then it's the last episode of the last episode or the last scene of the last episode where they're saying goodbye to Feeney and then he says like class dismissed you know. Yep. It still gets me. It still gets me every time.

I'll probably end up watching like a Halloween episode from Boy Mates World. I always forget about that. It's such a good show. I like watching the Halloween episodes from those shows. Yeah, I do too, but it's just top to bottom. That is, it's great TV. I've never dove into Girl Meets World. I told you we're frequently charted next to or near their podcast, like Topanga.

I think Sean's on. I don't know if Corey's still on it. But anyway, we're podcast neighbors. Yeah, we're pod neighbors. But she is making progress. She's getting better. She's fighting through an injury, which we love to see. She's not letting it slower down.

You're correct about Alex. She's really starting to find herself. She looks, as you said, about Whitney she looks very polished and I would say those two are probably the clear cut top two Robert's good Robert's good

but from the week one we haven't seen that same level of holy shit out of him so he's gonna go far because he's already a fan favorite which is understandable he's a handsome Aussie and I just had to dance a little bit

versus crocodiles so what's not the like but he definitely kind of plateaued for me and I need to see a week And even this week, it was fine with Disney Night. But I need to see him take another leap forward to stay with. I want to see him with that top pack. And he's kind of falling down a little bit.

He's definitely falling down. And for TikTok night, which was interesting, maybe most improved from a week to week status was Scott Hoying. He crushed it last week in TikTok night. And this week, you know, he gets a little bit more into the, what was it, high school musical, which was he was in. So, yeah, obviously you get like a little bit more of a bonus point because you're doing something from your past. And that's always fun.

But his dance last week, I didn't know he had it in him. He crushed it. I was very surprised. And I expected him to like, oh, my God, look at this huge step that he just took. And then Disney kind of like went back to the same right back. Oh, I disagree. Well, we'll wait for the Disney episode to get into that. But for TikTok night, he crushed it.

I'm like, okay. I take everything bad back that I said about him. I thought he was boring. I thought that he was stale and I didn't really care that much. But TikTok night he crushed. I think it was a twofer for me because watching him dance obviously got a lot better, started to get comfortable. And that's what Bruno says.

And like the whole judge panel pretty much resonates. It's like and it's cool to, I like watching his in between scenes now because I was the same. I was like, this dude is kind of boring, whatever. But I think you've watched him like blossom out of this shell and he's getting more comfortable not only on the floor but talking to the camera and kind of relating to people so like as he's going through his story i'm like wow it's almost like we watched that come out in your dance like watching you just kind of like say hey here i am and you know what we're damn glad you're

here scott because i was blown away last week and the confidence that's funny you said this week you went back i thought that it's shown through this week so those are my top i agree scott was very impressive, Jordan amazing, Whitney amazing. Danielle, love that grit. That takes me to Lauren. I was actually, I was disappointed. I was like, oh, no, what happened? Because she's had this, I think they said it best, this ethereal glow about her in all of her dances. And seeing it kind of, it wasn't bad. I'm not saying it was bad by any means. It was just not, I think she set the bar so high that seeing her not reach that again, I was like, oh, what happened?

Yeah, that's the danger that you run into. Now, I mean, we'll talk about Andy in a second, but when you take a step or you start off pretty strong, and I thought she started off really strong, I thought she looked comfortable pretty much from episode one. She was head and shoulders above other people who were still figuring it out, still very rigid, still not really cutting loose.

She seemed like she was a seasoned vet. She knew exactly what she was doing. doing she was working the camera she was hitting all the right moves but once you get to a point where you're doing that doing that very consistently but not actually really making any progress and you have a week like she had for tictock night where she didn't show up and she had a couple of that was a little slow coming out of that turn or whatever it may have been then it's very apparent you know what i mean like when you're that consistent but then you have a little bit of an off night and you get the same score as andy gets it's almost like what the fuck happens

like did you really regress that much or did you just have it off night and on this show you can't really have an off night because those voters are out there voting for their favorites if you don't impress them you're not getting any votes yeah that being said and we can spoil it because we're on to the next week already she did not deserve to go home she had an off week the fact that she got voted out i was like oh that's that's brutal like yeah i think andy obviously if he lasts past this next week it's it's turning into a joke then we need to be a like, all right, that's not fair to the rest of the, like, I think getting past, was the perfect night for him to go back.

I think it was enough three weeks in, like, okay, we understand, like, you had a really great run. You were incredibly entertaining and funny, but it's time to, like, break down and actually be a little serious about this. And I think now, you know, the jokes have run their course at this point. So it's like, all right, we can send Andy home. So I agree with you. If he, if he last passed next week, which what is their, um,

dedicating it's dedication night oh man this is that i cry yeah so if he lasts past that then something's going on and he's getting way too many fan votes because the scores he's pretty much sixes across the board since week one every week i think that he deserved to go through tip tif talk night only because who gets sent home at disney night i'm like all right after she's gone now and he needs to go so like that was kind of my barometer jokes have run their course right There is just something sweet about watching him dance and how much he cares. So, like, I get why he got through. His daughter was in the crowd and she was wearing the Ratatoui thing.

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Lauren unfortunately gets sent home unfairly I do believe I think she deserved another week I think you know we watched Robert Irwin have an off week after his big opening dance and we said the same thing it's like okay well let's bounce back but that was a bad week I think she deserved the same grace didn't get it it's unfortunate but we get to Disney night doesn't have the fan vote, I guess. That's probably the thing that hurt the most. And, like, I don't think that it's fair either. I understand she's being graded on a different scale than the Richter scale.

Yeah. You can't give her the same scores, Andy Richter. That's fucking ridiculous. Was that pun intended? Yeah, I've been making that pun. Okay. But I would have said, now I have to verify. I have to, like, come back to ask you.

No, but that's one of them I would have said, like, no pun intended. Yuck, yuck, yuck. You get it? The problem is that you also. also say yuck yuck yuck like you're supposed to just kind of like i never say yuck i don't say yuck yuck i'm not that's the same thing synonyms okay let's get to disney night which i love disney night they've done it before i think they like to it every year um i think they do and it's it's by far my favorite and i will say this before we get like fully into disney night

watching some of the the throwbacks and i know like princess and the frog came out. I think we're a little bit older, but even so, like, I love that one. It's set in New Orleans, and I love the vibe of that movie. But it made me flashback. And it may, I know Pixar movies rock and like the current, uh, animated movies are pretty solid for the most part. Oh, yeah. But this just reminded me of like there was nothing like when we were, you know, eight, nine, ten. And it's like the weekend, you go to blockbuster, you get some popcorn, you get one VHS tape. Then it's like a different color. Sometimes you got the blue. Disney tape, you know, and you slide that bitch in and you hear it, and it comes on, you see that

opening scene. And our movies were so much better collectively, just as a whole, than what they have to watch today. Like, those were iconic. Like, when I watched the Robin Williams one, holy shit, like took me back to Aladdin and watching that my first time. I will never get that back. That's gone forever. That makes me so sad.

Kids will never know. Who knew that a Dancing with the Stars episode was going to result in you getting on a soapbox and telling everybody that the current media, the current entertainment center, it's all shit. You guys had nothing compared to what we have. Think about it. I'm not wrong. I agree with you, but I, you know, I didn't expect you to go on your little soliloquy if you will. It just gave me like this nostalgia kick of like remembering those nights when you, or even a Disney

channel original movie. You get that song in the beginning. you're like, holy shit, what's coming on? I will agree with that. Well, that's the funny thing when we get to a high school musical. I mean, we were at high school when high school musical came out. So we could not be bothered. Oh, could you?

Could you not? Because my sister was, like, seven. Yeah, Riley was. You were bothered, actually. I knew every single song and line from high school. Brooks and I, my older brother, could quote back and forth, the entire start to finish of high school musical. I guess that's impressive.

I don't know what that is, but that's... I don't know what that is. Yeah, that was my life. We're serving. Here's the best part about that movie, okay? So, the setup is, I like that. I like, look, I liked it the first 10 times I watched it after that, it got annoying. But my favorite part is like this basketball star, you know,

gets up to sing karaoke on like a cruise, and that's where Vanessa Hudgens is. And for the, he starts singing and he has this realization. So for his entire life up until he's 15 years old, he's never sang. And finally he gets on stage and sings. And you watch his face, he goes, oh my God, I'm fucking amazing at this. I'm such a good singer. And I haven't realized it until this moment. That's the best part of that movie.

I think it's really, I've never actually seen it. And the, uh, the references that I get from it. are all from a South Park episode where they make fun of it. They're pretty close though. Like I've seen that one obviously. Yeah, it's so funny. But anyway,

then you get the second one where they do like the stop thing with like the basketballs. It's a whole thing. But speaking of high school musical, let's talk about Dylan Efron. Because wow, I loved this. I love the Fox Trot. He was high stepping across the floor.

Now I'm looking at his glides because they told me to look at the glides that he does. So now I'm like, wow, look at that. He does glide. you know he can quick step really well was it a Derek or Bruno that called him the quick step king I think it was Derek Derek

Derek called him he was really good he looked very comfortable in this setting now obviously if you're going to win dancing at the stars you got to be good at everything else but when he does a quick step he looks great he's got some good strides he's working on the things which I think the the judges tend to give you a slightly higher score

if you're clearly working on something that they told you last week needed work like if they come back and they're like oh you had to do this like you're coming out of your turns a little rigid or you're not leading with your body you're leading with your hands and then you see the next time they're like oh my god you live with your body i'm actually going to give you an eight just because you did exactly what i told you to do i will say i think dylan did a great job but it seems like for this one in particular they tended to go back to be like wow you're listening to us that's great let's give you a couple of aids how about that well i think you know the timing was perfect like his footwork timing was And I, and I told you, I told you, and that's why I was smiling when you were saying that. I told you week one, you're going to start to look for the technique. You're like, no, I won't. And now you are. But anyway, uh, well, all right, yeah, I told you.

It's a dick. No, I was, I didn't really look for it. I was just commenting on what the judges were saying. I still don't fucking know what I'm looking at. I still don't know what I'm looking at. By the way, I expected at some point in time, either one, a kachal during this. I know, that's a bummer. Not one, Cajal.

And also, they didn't do, and I know TikTok tonight was last week, but they didn't do the TikTok trend of having Lightning McQueen just kind of like speed across the screen. If they had done that, like, oh, look, look at this bolt of lightning. Cajah! Yeah, that's a good one. But I thought that he was great. The one thing I noticed from last week and the week before,

I keep seeing it. His arm, that bugs me. Because, like, it's never, it's like always kind of, maybe it's because he's too tall. I don't know. I don't want to say gangly because that makes you think that like he's super skinny and like and he's not limbs everywhere. He's a big dude and he's got really long gangly ass arms.

So they're just kind of like floating around out here. I want to see it. I want to see a kachow. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying chow that arm because it's going to stand out if you're that long. Yeah, but that took me back too, man. Cars.

Wow. First time I sell cars. I love cars. I love cars. Still. I don't love the spy one as much. but cars one and two cars one and two are solid yeah anyway Danielle let's get to her who I thought this was good again I kind of I think you see the injury a little bit here like

you just yeah you know like the as you said from TikTok night where we see the kicks because she did the the quick step as well yeah and I think it did her a disservice to go after Dylan because we just saw that like oh shit he's moving and then we see daniels it was good but she was a little it wasn't as lively how about they do the they do a lot of the kickouts which is like it requires you to have a functioning hamstring so kind of an interesting you would think they would try to cater to her injury a little bit now obviously she's going to have to do a quick step at some point I'm sure that's part of the rules like you can't just do the salsa every fucking week or something like that I'm sure you have to do one of each but

you get to pick when you do it exactly and i'm sure you can probably double up on the ones that you do really well but for this particular dance it requires a lot of hamstring movement so that was one of the things that i was kind of keying in on you could see her left leg was like full rotation back out to the left right leg skirt right she was trying which again i'm going to have to give her credit for because that sucks and i'm sure she's in fucking pain and fighting through it and she's still trying to do it it's not like she's just completely ignoring the right side she's still doing it so i'm going to give her credit for that i think yeah and i think that's because there was a misstep in there as the judge points out uh one of them

pointed out that she did i think it was carry ann uh we take a little misstep but i'm gonna attribute that to injury i think that's got a bum hammy we're working through it so you know shit happens sevens across the board 21 respectable score i do think if you want to be in the conversation now you need to deliver at least one eight a week i think that's the bare minimum but it's enough still, I think next week is going to be that hard cutoff where it's like, all right, shit's getting serious. So hopefully we get a little more rest and recovery on that hammy, so she comes back a little stronger. But let's keep trucking to one of my new favorites is Scott Hoing once again. He did the salsa from Bob to the Top from high school musical.

I thought it carried over from last week. I saw the same kind of lively performance. And was it a little more loosey-goosey? yes but I think that's attributed to he's he's comfortable now and I would rather see him really go for it and be that little more comfortable Lucy Goosey out there and then next week rain it in but now we've got two confident weeks he's he kind of knows who he is as a dancer now I think I think that's a really good way to put it but I think he got if this makes any sense I think he got too comfortable we watched him get way too comfortable and it was almost like he was kind of going off on his own here and doing some random dance moves didn't really make a ton of sense but then he would rain it back in and then go more rigid and like actually structured. So he was kind of bopping back and forth. But every time that it seemed like he was out on his own, he was doing a weird thing with either his arms or his legs. And you can see he's really happy and enjoying himself, which is great, but you do still have to have that structure.

And I think that's why he got dinged in this because it wasn't like, maybe it's the choreography. That's kind of where my knowledge just drops. I don't know if it's the choreography or if he just did something wrong. either way, it didn't look the same. When I watched TikTok night, I'm like, damn, that was down pat. He had every fucking step in there. This one, it just seemed like it was a lot more freeform, which the judge has never liked. And I think that was the problem.

Yeah. And I think that's where it comes in where it's like, okay, you found yourself, which is awesome. Fuck, yes, Scott. We love to see that. So now that we're there, next week, let's really fine tune. Now let's get technical with it. It's like, hey, have fun and cut loose out there. and then he has fun and cuts loose, does really well,

and then having fun cut loose round two. You're having too much fun out there. You've got to rate it. But now we know where that barometer is. Yeah, so now he's, I'll find the middle. I think he's good. I think he really has promise based off of last week.

I don't know if he's going to get the fan vote, which seems to be the biggest fucking part of this show. They need to restructure it. That's not fair. It's insane. But, like, again, I don't think he'll get the fan vote unless, in last week, I think he wowed the audience. audience. Like, I think he got a lot of votes for the fans that were like, wow, I didn't think

he had to know. And then this week, it's kind of more of the same. So he, he started through because I do see where people. Yeah, but I met from the fans perspective where it's like, okay. That was a, that was an okay dance. Like nothing crazy. And I feel like last week it was, oh shit, this guy could dance. This week, it's, all right. Yeah, sure, whatever. So the fan vote is the biggest, uh, the biggest factor in all of this anyway. But yeah, which is he gets sevens, sevens across the board, which is the new average. Um, yeah, 21's kind of middle of the road. I love that they tick it up a little bit.

You know, Andy and Corey were getting fives across the board the first two weeks. Now he's getting sixes. That's the low. Seven across the board is the average, but you can do better. You get an eight in there. You're safe. That's pretty much what I'm judging it by. Well, no, you're not.

Well, I meant like safe from the judges, but not. Yeah, like they need to figure something out here. But let's get to Alex Earl. And I think that a big part of this, again is what the judges say this is a formidable duo they work well together her and Val

this was stunning I was like locked in this whole time I thought it felt like it was actually a scene from the movie I thought that she was on point what she does so well she's graceful but she's also very pointed like every she hits all of her her poses and everything

on the time that's like the one thing because obviously I'm not a choreographer for my aunt chrissey is for the new york city ballet i didn't know if i tell you that but uh he worked on black swan um but the one thing you really can do as a like a novice watching this is timing at the very least because like a lot of times you'll see especially the end of the song the final pose is slightly offbeat because they're slightly late or they're slightly early she's not ever it's pop pop pop on time the whole time which is fun this scene that they created was powerful and she just, she's a phenomenal entertainer.

Like she did a great job. And the choreography was fucking awesome. Yeah, the choreography was incredible. I thought that she hit every single thing. Like there didn't look to be any missteps, which let's be very honest, 99% of the people out there watching that are just watching for enjoyment are doing the same shit that we're doing. Whoa, that was crazy.

It didn't look like there were any missteps. She looked like she was really just focused and getting it done. And also it's got to be the choreography. Like, that's pretty much what 99% of us do. And then there's that 1% that's looking at things that I don't even know exist. But I thought that this was outstanding. I thought that this was, I thought it was the best dance of the night. I thought it deserved a nine.

We needed a nine. I thought it deserved a nine. I was shocked. And I ate across the board at minimum. I expected one nine to float in there because that was well deserved. I thought she did a great job. And I love her post interview. She's like, yeah, this isn't like really me at all because she is.

she's she's that like light very you know out there flamboyant with like a lot of light colors and seeing her at all black and doing a very different type of dance is cool because it gets her out of her comfort zone and she did well so i think that deserves another nine and you know i'm gonna bitch about the scores i am too it's impossible not to because of the comparison when you that's what drives me nuts you put them next to each other it's like how does that get a nine unless it's something so minorly technical that you didn't explain. Like that's the thing. If you're going to bump someone up, but for us,

we're seeing similar dances. Tell me exactly what the technicality was that lost her a point. Right. Because I don't understand it. Yeah. Like I need this to go up against, you know, Whitney who did get a nine in her scorer and then to see.

And again, no shade to Whitney because that was in front of dance too. But I need to see them side by side and I need the judges to break it down and say I gave, and maybe they do this on their podcast that I'll never listen to, but I need to understand why they got a nine. So, you know what? Actually, we'll just, we'll put a task to the audience. If you guys listen to The Dancing with the Stars podcast, report back to us if they report

on why Alex didn't get an eight or didn't get a nine and Whitney did get a nine. That's what I want to know. Please, because we simply do not have the time. That's not even a joke. We have so many shows on right now. We decided to step out and do some other stuff right, right? right when shit was getting heavy. Yeah.

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the Star Wars song the best the canteen band it is the best and it's what's the name I always get the name ever done

Star Wars barcy that that band name is funny but the genre of music is even funnier. And I'm going to see if you can guess it. So it's Frigran Dan and the modal nodes is who sings the canteena song. Now, George Lucas in an interview said what this genre of music is.

It's similar to a type of music that we have now that also uses a lot of horn instruments. Okay. One word is different. One letter's different. and the result is hysterical. And I don't know if it was intentional or if this word came about later to mean what it means now.

No, it's not Jiz, is it? It is 100% you guessed it. Yes. Oh, God. Google that. Google that. You want me to Google Jiz. No, no, no, no, no, no.

If anyone wants to Google, type in Figrin Dan and the modal nodes, Figrin, not fingering, Figrin Dan in the modal nodes, Cantina's song. genre it is j i z z so per george lucas hilarious a hilarious dance to jiz i didn't make this up this is a fact you can't make this up some things are bigger than sports um star wars is then jiz i never knew that that's so funny isn't that good i love this fucking song this song is great i will

say um this and i think it was uh oh no my i'm jumping the gun here but this song i think it's incredible. I think it's very funny. And I think it's also very easy to dance to because what kind of dance did she end up doing for this one, a quick step? It seems like a quick step type of song. So it was perfect for that because it's just so upbeat and fun and goofy.

And it's just a great time. And I love to see it. Now, that being said, I didn't love to see Alec again going on the trip. Why is he at Disneyland? Why is he have to be there? He can't book a movie because he killed somebody. he's trying to get on camera Just go back to the bar

I don't really understand Why he needs to be on there anymore But I think she did well I do think Hilaria is a good dancer I think the choreography is always good Between the two of them I think more so

Than even people disliking Hilaria They really dislike Gleb Because of all the stuff coming out With the Naders It just sucks to be in them position because I think she's a good dancer and I think that she could have potentially gotten to like a final of some kind but to see this and it's not like I got to a point where I'm like oh warming up to her she's okay like I still think her personality kind of sucks I think it's incredibly

funny because she has a valley girl accent so while she's talking when she's at Disneyland she's got a valley girl accent the whole time and then every once in a while you'll hear a sentence and you're like where the fuck are you from what is that she she changed her accent willingly at some point in her life and it just was different from that on but yes it'll slip out it drives me up a wall yeah she reached a point with me on the show where i was kind of in the beginning i'm like oh she's kind of irritating then she was just neutral then i didn't really have an opinion i think what happened and it's enjoyable to actually watch her dance and then when she's talking like oh god yeah and i think the biggest issue she ran into as far as fan votes go yeah you're in a sandwich of

Gleb and Alec Baldwin, two very unlikable people. So it's, and you have a fake accent for that Oreo cream in the middle. So you're kind of in a shit sandwich as far as like getting votes from us. But that being said, credit where credits do, she is good. Like I noticed that she tends to be a little tighter when they're doing like rolls and stuff. But other than that, her footwork's always good. Her timing's good.

Her posture's great. So like credit credit to her. She, she deserved another week, but at the same time, likeability factor. I do get her going home before Andy Richter. Like that does make sense to me. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, so she got two eight to seven.

Pretty good score from the judges. That's why I said eights don't save you. Yeah, that's, it doesn't apply to her. But again, I do one, I love the song. I know I'm a huge fan of Jiz. And, yeah. What more can you say, honestly, about that? Just that.

Just that. It's a genre of music, you sickos. Get your head out of the gutter. Let's get to Andy Richter, who does the Viennese waltz to my favorite song from any Disney movie because of the scene. Ratatoui is my favorite Pixar, by far, obviously, as a chef. But I love how it's shot, like, to just say a technical, like, I love the food scenes. I love how in depth they are. I love the imagery.

I just love, like, I feel like I can smell. and taste through the screen. Like when he takes a bite of the strawberry with the cheesy finds in the trash and it does like the colors that are depicting the flavors, I'm like, I can fucking taste what you're eating right now. But love that movie, love this song in particular because of the montage that goes with it in the movie. I love this dance.

Again, the judges are 100% spot on. It's very sweet. You give very memorable performances because we're all rooting for you and because you have us on your team. this is a copy and paste of last week and the week prior all it's telling me because the first two weeks i think the judges were incredibly nice and obviously their scores don't really reflect it but all of their comments are very nice they're not very constructive they're not saying you know you really got to come out and do this or that or whatever because they know that he's kind

of at his limit you know he's doing what he can he might be able to step it up for a certain song and i think the big task for next week is probably finding that song and finding that quick step weirdly might be the one it might be but i think there's too many opportunities we are really breaking this down i think there's too many opportunities i love i love it i think there's way too many opportunities for a misstep that could throw off the whole routine with him for a quick step so but you got to throw a hell mary you got one more week maybe i agree i agree yeah maybe you do have to throw that hell mary i just i don't know if that's going to work out too well that being said i think what we're seeing now the judges are starting to be critical and not constructive and it's

getting to the point where I think for them anyway, it's kind of losing the novelty. And I don't think that they're looking at the contestants the same way that we are. They're not looking at them like, all right, we have to get rid of this person, this person,

and then we've got a good crop of people that can actually surprise us or continue to do it really well. And it might make for a really good at final. I think now we're kind of at that point where it's like, okay, we have to start getting serious.

So they're not that they're fed up, but I think that they are surprised that he's still here. And they still have to comment on his dances. Dev made a good point, though, about this. I said the same thing. She agrees, obviously, at a certain extent. You've got to honor the people that are doing well just because of the fan vote.

But at the same time, the keystone or cornerstone of this show was for people like Andy. No, no dancing experience, nothing at all. They learn as they go and do they turn into an amazing dancer. It has since become this person has ballroom dancing experience. this person is a decorated artist that goes on tour and dances on stage. This person does tick. Like it's turned into a lot of people have prerequisites where it originally it wasn't so much that.

So Andy somewhat embodies that. The only problem with Andy is we have seen zero progress. We've seen him get better posture for sure. We've seen him hitting some of the poses and stuff like that. But as far as seeing something new or like, oh, that was good. You don't get that from him. get oh that's so sweet and like his daughter with ratatuity on her shoulder fucking at all so very amazing right so like i get what he got through this week for sure i can definitely

see him one-up being hilaria fine next week you got to throw the hail mary and land it that i mean for the people that are still left the only person that he might be able to and this is someone who actually got a couple of eights elaine just run through he might be able to overtake scott holying i don't i don't see him taking over elaine elaine shows so many different instances of doing super well and you can see that there's like a good dancer in her background i'm more talking fan votes uh maybe jen aflac that's the only one that i can see yeah because we've got whitney jen is kind of like a bit of an afterthought and i think that she's actually making progress and doesn't that suck but i feel the same way yeah i do think that she's a bit of an afterthought because

of how good whitney is that it's almost like okay if we're looking at this, Andy could still, because of the fan vote, get over a Jen, get over Scott Hoying or something like that next week, depending on how things go. So we might have them, but I agree with you. I think this is it. I think next week should be the Hail Mary. And then he goes out a champion, you know, in his own right, where I gave it my all. I did everything I could.

I didn't expect to get this far. And here I am, and my family's very proud of me. And I think he'll walk away feeling really good. So I think that's a win-win for everybody. that's what we need we need to let him sail off into the sunset with his head held high he gave his best shot gave us some of the most memorable all season yeah and let's pat him on the butt nice job dude yep we'll remember you hopefully you come back to watch some dances i don't pat him on the back i mean we don't have to pat him on the butt well you're making it weird now it's more of a

sports reference like out of boy you know yeah okay just a baseball that's seen football I know that's fucking with you. But let's move on to kind of talked about a little bit with Robert Irwin. He won Zootopia 2 looks incredible. I can't wait. Phenomenal. Zootopia 2 is going to be great.

And you're also in that that portion of your life where you've got two daughters now and not that your youngest is going to be able to understand what's going on. She's going to love the colors and she's going to love what's going on. It's the best part. Not the best part, but one of the best things about having kids is like you get to they get to that age where they start to hang out and like be your friend oh yeah this is my favorite age and you just get to like you get to like take her to the

movies and go yeah dude it's awesome i can't just go and sit in the back row and watch that mustache no no i'd have i'd have to go with you and your daughter to actually feel comfortable that's fine you're more than welcome you know uncle shooters always welcome but uh yeah it is it's fun and like poppy has her favorites that are also mine so like we get to run through those frequently but i'm excited to reopen that door with Scotty when she gets a little bit older. But they danced, as you said, to try everything, which is Shakira, I believe, sings this. She's the giraffe in Zootopia. And it was good.

It was good. And from a Judd's standpoint, they say technically it was fairly sound. Yeah, it was solid. I think he's having a Lauren moment a little bit where it's like the bar, that first dance, is just stuck in everybody's head. So now we have this expectation to be just floored every week. He hasn't done that since week one. We've seen this plateau for the past few weeks where it's like, yes, technically you're

hitting the right notes, technically you're moving the right way. Sure, it's good, but we want better then. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, I feel you entirely. I think the way that he came out in that first episode, it was a big wow factor. And then he's just kind of evened out. Again, he's not doing points. poorly. He's not doing anything wrong. He's not doing anything bad. There's just no progress. And it's like you said. It's the same thing as Lauren. You looked so comfortable in that first episode. You looked unbelievably comfortable. You looked like you were going to win the whole goddamn thing right away out of the gate. And then you kind of just settled it. And you're not really doing much else. And again, I feel bad saying it because clearly he looks like a hard worker. I'm sure he's working really hard in the interim. He's going to practice and doing all the things that he needs to do. Maybe it's a little choreography. Maybe it's just,

You need something to just kind of wake you up. Just get it. Maybe next week is the one when you're going to be doing some sort of dedication song, whatever he chooses. I do think it's not funny, ha, ha, but it's very interesting online because everybody's on there. Like,

I can't wait for one. They said, I can't wait for Disney night because he's going to do something from like the Lion King or something to dedicate to his dad, not knowing the dedication week was the next week. And then next week, obviously, his dedication week.

So they're like, he's going to dedicate something to his dad. And people in the comments are so funny because the first comment is, always Robert Irwin just existing on Dancing with the Stars first comment hey man your dad's dead it's funny and I would like to see I think he might go this way maybe it's a dedication to his parents maybe it's dedication to just his mom which would be very sweet I think that would be more so where he's going to go but maybe that's what he needs maybe he just needs like a bit of a wake-up call like hey get emotional put your whole heart into it and let's see what you actually have because

you showed so much promise that first week Now you just look like a sound good background dancer at this point. And we need that leading man again. You know what I mean? And I think it would be sweet. His mom's in the crowd every night, which she was on Crocodile Hunter for its entirety. A huge fan of hers as well. So I agree.

I think that next week's going to be a big step forward for him because we're all expecting a certain dance. It's definitely. We know it's in there. So still holding out hope for it. And again, like this is criticizing someone who's doing very well. just because we expect better. But Elaine Hendricks, and he gets a 7 to 7 and 8 for a 22,

but Elaine does the quick step to Space Mountain. Now, the song choice was awful. And I get... Dude, this sucked. It was awful. And it made the dance seem bad, which it wasn't.

The judges like the dance was one of the best ones you've done. Everything was right. You did this. You did that. You did this. The song was so fast. Weird. It was bizarre.

It lands on the bottom three, doesn't it? it does no no she got the aides across that was last week yeah that was last week but this week for this one i said the same thing once it started i'm like what fucking song from space mountain is the theme of the roller coaster they did a really good job of explaining you know her background with space mountain and like her background with disney or whatever and you know obviously some of that is just fan service for for disney and their anniversary or whatever but once it started i'm like what the fuck is it's like what are you to do meanwhile the other space song cantina jizz was incredible and it's so easy to dance to and it's the perfect song for a

quick step this one i'm like i it's so chaotic i don't even know if this is good or bad this was the first song i think in four weeks that i i genuinely was just befuddled i didn't know if it was good or bad i thought she looked good but i didn't know if she was hitting her steps because the song is so fucking dumb and stupid and i don't get it that i'm just confused and then once they started spouting off all the things and they didn't really give her much like constructive criticism they didn't say you need to do better there or this or whatever I'm like maybe she did a good job and then she gets aides across the board and I'm like she did great I had no idea I was in the same exact boat I'm like I don't know how to judge this because I can't time it I can't do anything I'm just watching

this chaotic scene she does good enough eights across the board so clearly she did technically well so I have nothing negative to say about it other than the song threw me off so much that I didn't really know what I was watching. But that's not her fault. That's, again, choreography, and that's the song they picked. So she did a nice job, according to the judges. I'll defer to them. Yeah.

Which takes us to Whitney. I don't know what to say. She's phenomenal. It's starting to look unfair. She looks like a fucking girl. They look like the troop. Like, you could, if I didn't know who Whitney was and I just turned on the TV, I'd be like, oh, they're like some sort of intermission right now.

They've got the troop out there dancing. Like, who's this? This must be a new star or it's the up-and-coming dancer or whatever it might be. Like, she just looks so good. The song choices are always perfect. Her steps are always perfect. It looks like they're just not missing a beat. There's just nothing to say.

It's incredible. And again, yeah, like I said earlier, she was a ballroom dancing major when she went to college, which puts her in a good spot. But it looks more to me like. this is a passion and she's probably continued to do it since college and she's really fucking good at it so good for her yeah it's impressive to watch like even all the way down to her facial expressions as she's doing it yeah like a lot of people don't have the timing yeah like she just seems so overly comfortable that she could do this in her sleep

and the score reflects that she gets a nine and eight and an eight now you compare this to Alex Earls dance different. And I agree that Whitney brings like a little bit of a different factor. But as far as like captivation, I believe they both deserve the nine. Maybe Whitney deserved two lines. No. I think it's just because I think it's too early in the season for two nines. Yeah, maybe so.

He will get two nines. I would love to see if like Alex would. But I think we're at the part of the season where what Alex did was so captivating and such a wow. moment of holy shit i didn't know you had that in you and that was flawless nine she deserved a nine because you didn't know it was unexpected whitney this is getting to the point and like again no shade and i'm not dinging her for this but you expect a great performance so give her a nine because it was a great performance but there are two very different nines in my book where if alex gets one i'm like that's the win of the fucking night that's the dance of the night even whitneys could be better

than alex's but at the end of the day i'm going to remember alex's so i think that for the judges at point give Alex a nine because who the fuck cares she's going to get through for fan boat anyway give her a goddamn nine she worked her ass off and she did a great job Whitney also working her ass off deserves the judge's score of a nine so that she continues to go through so we're at that portion of the season we're like it doesn't matter that much if we do the same thing at the end of the season I'd probably be okay with Whitney getting like a point higher maybe she gets two nines and an eight and Alex gets a nine eight for the same exact dance I'd be okay with that because it would make sense to me yeah I agree we need

a nine there but Whitney deserved her nine as well not I'm not digging anything she did it was it was incredible not at all she's just she's unbelievable to watch yeah it really is it's very captivating and it takes us to Jordan childs again we're trending in the right direction she just seems to be getting better and better I wouldn't say it's like there's anything where you're like whoa holy shit it's just overall you're like that was a very strong performance and she's starting to really like I said about Scott Hoy I think she's she's she's finding who she is as a dancer. Yeah, she's starting to...

Frowning out nicely. Yeah, stepping beyond that I'm a gymnast and now it's more so like I can dance and it's really fun to watch. And she's incredibly athletic, obviously. So that and being able to take instruction. And I love Ezra. I love her dance partner.

I think he's unbelievable. And he knows exactly what he has to do. And again, I commend them because we talked about at the beginning of the episode. They're not just leaning into the fact that she can do a bunch of flips and jump in the air and be incredibly athletic. They're showcasing how she's able

the dance, which, you know, I think she probably did this. I didn't, I don't really remember the Olympics, but she probably did that free form gymnast where the floor routine, a little bit, yeah, the floor routine. That's what it is. Thank you. I'm sure she did that and she probably excelled at that. So lean into more of that, like showcase a little bit of creativity. And I think they're doing a good job at that.

And she's, she's one of those who's moving forward where she started off. You knew that the talent was there. You knew the athleticism was there, but she looked a little rigid. She's loosening up and she's doing better as she loosening. up so I mean what more can you ask for yeah she's a top contender for sure uh and fun to watch i really enjoy her dances great song choice uh great movie choice i guess this is yeah it's a phenomenal film but the final duo jenn aflick and yon and you're 100% right because for all intents and purposes great dance good job we're seeing progress she's perfectly done

same thing could be said for her as we said for jordan honestly absolutely but you're expecting whitney for some reason which isn't fair to her but you are because they come from the same show so i do believe there's a bit of a shadow there that i would be curious if there's a way that they can it's not a hail mary because i think that she's probably middle to middle low of the pack just because of fan votes i think next week you got to go for you really got to go for it to try to get her to step out of that shadow that is whitney i think she's made a ton of progress i don't like a lot of the people that were watching you know you go back to jordan obviously who just danced before her you can say she was a little

rigid and now she's opening up but everything that was there all the talent was there jen is different where i don't like you could have told me that she's never danced before yeah and she did a great job and she looked okay and she's getting a little bit more comfortable but overall it's like she's she's actually getting a getting to be a better dancer yeah that's what we've been watching like she's finding the move she's understanding what she has to do and actually putting it into practice which comes with hard practice and i think that's what she's doing and it's it's showcasing really well it just sucks for her because she she does seem like an afterthought and i get that Whitney's really good and Whitney's going to carry for the rest of the

season for sure but you got to give a little bit of love to jen because she's getting better every week I agree. And I think that's a big, you know, obviously we're going to have our favorites. But as journalists, you know, that we are, we need to try to maintain some neutrality. So I think that that's the best way to look at it is favorites aside, are we making progress? Are you doing things differently than last week? Are you working on what was asked of you? And is it a captivating dance? That's kind of my judgment, favoritism aside. And I think I've done a pretty good job of me. I root for certain people. more, but I will be critical of my favorites as well. I think we both did that early. I think the first two episodes, we were rooting for our favorites. And now we've got to the point where we just want to see a good product. Yeah. Yeah, the, the schick has run its course to where now I'm more just like, all right, let's,

let's get down to the dance. Because we're starting to thin out the herd in which it's like the remaining people are going to be held to a certain standard. Once Andy Richter's out of there, especially, we'll miss him. But at the same time, now it's like, okay, we're all, it throws off the show. a bit because you only have one person on that lower scale. So when

he's anywhere close to anybody, let's say someone who gets an 18 or a 19 and they're giving him three or sixes across the board, it's like, well, you're taking away from what that person did by saying it on the same par as Andy Richter. Yeah. But we're heating up, baby. We're getting to the fun

stuff. And as we already said a couple times, Hilaria went home. It was a bit unexpected but she she just had a shit draw people already don't like her husband they don't like her dance partner it was going to happen no matter what we we knew she was never going to make it to the final i do think as we said before i think the joke runs its course and he's probably out next week i think that should be set in stone at this point so that we can break free to the other side which is who's the best answer that's what this is all about i agree i agree and i think it's time

I think it's time that we let the cream rise to the top, as they say. That's what they say. But we will tune. Don't worry, we'll get next week out in a timely manner, so we're not waiting two weeks to recap. It's easier now, too, because there's less dancers so we can get there a little bit quicker. But, yeah, that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope.

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