Bros & Shows - Denise and Erika Open Up and RHOBH Continues to be GOOD! (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

What's up Bros? We are as shocked as you (unless youre not enjoying this season). This is good TV currently. Is it the best ever? No. But the RHOBH bar is pretty low and dammit we are enjoying it currently. Dorit and Kyle continue to Hampton it up. Amanda opens up about the cult. Denise and Erika have a very important conversation on camera and we salute them both for being brave enough to share their stories. Will the group reunite and all will be well? Or are we about to see why Amanda (allegedly) stopped filming..? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I don't know what to say anymore because I don't know if I'm alone in this. I am like genuinely enjoying this show again. Like actually I've had fun. I think you're partially alone. I am haphazardly getting myself to be in a good place where I might think about getting involved with Beverly Hills again. So I'm not quite there. as you can tell. But you're,

this is what happens. You always jump back in and then I have to be on the other side just wait and just in case you need to come back across the river. I'm quick to love. I'm quick to love. Everybody knows this.

As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. It will be a... Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma.

And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your host. Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only Beverly Goots. What's up, dude? Beverly Goots, Hampton Goots. I don't really know. You know how we feel about these separate trips. It's kind of funny, honestly. This is the second week that they're still in the Hamptons, just three of them, while the rest of the women are just like in Beverly Hills, fending for themselves. And we, have a whole new episode next week where they're still doing that.

So you know how we feel about these separate trips. Beverly Hills is the only one where they can do it. I don't even know if I'm going to say they could do it successfully because they did it last year when they went to Augusta with three of them. Yeah. This year, like before Amanda's party, I'm like, yeah, this kind of makes sense. Three full episodes with three of your heavy hitters being on the other side of the country is kind of a weird situation.

I'm enjoying it. I'm okay with it right now, but it's a very weird situation, and I don't know what to make of it. Are they sending a message? Is this like, are they subliminally trying to fuck with the cast? Like, if you're not on the trip,

you're on the chopping block. Or is it just going to be like, all right, if two people have issues, we're just going to go with Rachel to the Hamptons and you guys go with them. So maybe people will start like manufacturing issues so they can get invited to the Hamptons.

Maybe they're sick and tired of Doret and Kyle's shit. it just like taking over every scene. So like you guys go do your thing over there and they're going to do their thing over here. And maybe you guys can figure something out. Like this is like a piece offering. We did see midseason trailer. It does show that Dorete kind of has it with Kyle and Erica and kind of goes after both of them when they're on a bigger trip.

But you might be on to something because what we're seeing is removing Doreet and Kyle putting them in a situation where they not really have to talk about what they've been doing, but just kind of get back together and be nice to each other and have fun together. That's really all that's happening in the Hamptons. On the other end, you've got the rest of the women pressing Amanda saying, you created this. We didn't want to deal with this shit. It's almost like a little bit of a fourth wall break where it's like they keep referring to.

And Doreet does it a little bit later too where she's like, yeah, Sutton's a lot better this year. So you guys really don't actually communicate at all in the interim. There's no offseason communication, no offseason hanging out. Fine. We already knew that. But sometimes when you say that on the show, it's kind of like a slap in the face.

But it does kind of make sense because we are actually dealing with the Kyle and Dorit thing from a production standpoint by removing them and then also having the rest of the women go after Amanda and being like, hey, don't perpetuate this. It's going to ruin the season if we keep doing this shit.

So we need to handle it now. Yeah, so maybe we figured it out a little bit. It's at least, look, I'll give them one thing. They are trying. And I don't know. I appreciate effort. I'm a big fan of effort. I just want to see some effort.

You don't have to get it right immediately, but show me that you're trying and I will hang around. I think they gave Doreet and Kyle ample time last year to figure it out, ample time in the offseason, ample time in the beginning of the season. And it wasn't going anywhere. So I never believe when Rachel's like, and it's not just about Rachel,

it's about any of the housewives. I really want to just take these two on a trip and have them figure it out. You didn't come up with that idea. It's okay. You don't have to tell me you didn't. That's completely fine. but it does seem like production has a hand in it, and they're just kind of forcing this to happen

so that we don't have another issue down the line. So I'm okay with it. I'm with you. I like effort. Effort goes a long way with us. I think with a lot of people, especially on this show, because we've been lacking it for so very long,

that it's time that they started to try to figure something out with this cast. So so far it's working. And let's jump into this episode. Now, of course, we're still in the Hamptons with Rachel. and Doreet and Kyle and that crew that's up there. But I'm more focused on Beverly Hills and Amanda and her dinner recap with her husband, who this poor bastard, he seems like, I don't know. I don't know how to put my finger on it,

but it's like he just seems lesser than in that household. Like he's just like a soundboard where she can just like vent and like say things and he just like goes along with it. Like he's quiet. It doesn't say too much. And everything I've heard from him. which isn't a bad thing. I mean,

he's being nice to his wife, but he's like, he just pumps her up in front of the camera. It says nice things about her. This whole conversation, I mean, this is the longest interaction that we've seen with the two of them on camera.

And it's very telling. Like you said, it does seem like he's lesser than. It does seem like he's just a soundboard so that she can kind of get everything out. And he hipes her up. He did allute. We don't even know what the fuck he does for work.

Is he still modeling or something? Like, wasn't he an Abercrombie model or something? No, He's a construction worker, which is fine. Yeah, he just went down to Disney to work on like one of the rides. Remember in the first or second episode? I don't remember that at all.

Yeah, he works construction in some capacity. I don't know what. I don't know if he's like a foreman or what he does. I do know that he went and did construction work at Disney World in the beginning of the season. What's he doing in Disney World? Creating more tunnels. Oh, boy, we get into that. Who knows?

That place is wacky. they say it's a small world but it's really not in those tunnels anyway no no we don't want to go down that path but anyway this I feel like is a good glimpse into the power dynamic of their relationship like you said

it is very much Amanda runs that household Amanda sits down with him and just goes off she's very delusional she's like saying all of the things that we expect her to say about that dinner party she's putting the blame on everybody else she's accusing them of attacking her in their own house there was

one little instance towards the end of their conversation where he didn't really go against her, but he brought her an opposing opinion. And she just did not have it at all. Like, you could see it on her face. So I do feel bad for the guy. I do still think that there's probably some weird chick going on in his background that we are not privy to. Just because I can't imagine any guy who's just a normal dude would be married to her because she is absolutely insane.

And I can't imagine that's a very fun life. So I imagine there's probably some weird chick going on in this background. That's the way that I do it. That's cope. That's fine. But they're recapping the dinner and, you know, she's just flabbergasted that they didn't buy into this process of she's like, if I offered a free journaling and manifesting for every woman I know,

they would jump at it. But, okay, let's break it down from a fundamental standpoint. The point of this exercise, your whole business model is to help people make money, or sorry, help people attract money. My bad. These women have attracted money. They've done it. They're good.

They don't need this session. They don't think this is serious. They don't take you seriously. And instead of just having a moment where you sit down and connect with them and talk to them, you need so desperately for them to approve and covet what you have that you keep trying to shove it in their face. They don't care. They do not care.

They simply do not care. We don't care. We're not rich. That's the thing. We can tell right away, like, they're already rich. They've already gotten all the money that they need or going through different things, obviously, but they're rich women. They're not buying into this bullshit.

And unfortunately, as we've talked about before, when Amanda's going through all of this, her target audience is not the already existing rich people. It's the people that want to get rich. So it may work on stupid people, sorry, but it's not going to work on these women. And they want nothing to do with this. And us sitting at home, we're like, seriously, I can't imagine somebody, actually sitting down with their husband saying, I can't believe that I offered them my services for free.

And they didn't care about it. Of course they didn't care about it. It's all bullshit. It makes no sense. No one wants to sit around, especially this group of women, and journal in front of you to manifest something that's going on. When you look around and you have the likes of Bose who can do and say pretty much

whatever the fuck she wants. I mean, she's gotten to that point in her career. You've got Sutton making 300K from her ex-husband. And the only thing that Amanda can come up with a month. The only thing that Amanda can come up with is, well, maybe if they didn't have to rely on the men in their lives, they wouldn't have to worry about that. Like, that's not a slap in the face. They're better than you.

And you know it. You just can't cope with it. Exactly. Exactly. And we get Bose and Sutton, they're talking about that dinner and just kind of recapping everything. The biggest takeaway is actually from Sutton. Actually, it's from Bose about Sutton. She's noticing, as I think everybody watching is noticing, is that Sutton is different this season.

And she's had a few moments to show that like she actually seems like she's grown a little bit. Now you could argue is that growth or is she acquiescing to the group because Garcel is no longer there. I don't know. I think there's an argument for both, but it doesn't matter because this is about the show, right? And the show as a whole will function better if these women get along. That is not saying I don't miss Garcel because I do very much. But we are getting a more cohesive group. when we talked about, you know, the common enemy factor where they all hate Amanda.

So they seem to be coming together outside of that. But they're talking about all this shit. And their big takeaway is similar to what we just talked about. The fact is that Amanda needs them to know how far she's come. They need to know what she has and all these things. Bose says it best. Don't show me what you accumulated. Show me how you got there.

Yeah. Fuck yeah But here's the problem Bose By showing you how she got there She will uncover her own scam And then she'd be up shit's creek Without a paddle

I would actually argue that Showing how she got there Is somehow going to be worse Than showing what she's accumulated Because it's going to be Even more bullshit It's going to be even worse for everybody To endure that conversation

It's a means to an end of what we're going to get to eventually, which is, tell me about the cult. Let's talk about the cult. We want to go through that. It's not necessarily how did you build this quote unquote empire. It's how are you this bad shit crazy? What happens? Like what are we getting into?

It must be the cult. Let's talk about the cult. But going back to Sutton just briefly, I didn't think she had it in her. I mean, we talked about this at the beginning of the season. We knew what was going to happen. We saw the clips here and there for what we were going to get this season. And we knew immediately, okay, Sutton is going to take the stance of, I don't really have any friends of this group. So I'm going to butt out. I'm just going to be as nice as possible.

And even for Sutton going into this based on her track record, I did not think that she had this in her at all based like historically speaking on what she's shown us on this show since she got there. Eventually she's going to put her foot in her mouth. I didn't expect anything like this. I mean, she's nice, but she's also contributing. She's not just taking a back seat and like letting the other women do what they want and not getting in their way, which is what I thought she would do, which would still be a better approach than what she's been doing. Instead, she's very much part of the group, if not impressing people like those, impressing people like Doreet with not only her intelligence and talking about the things that are going on, but also

with her emotional intelligence and being in touch with what other people are going through. I didn't think that Sutton had this in her. It's so much more pleasant. I'm going to give her all the props right now. I'm probably going to, I'm definitely going to regret that at some point. Just again, historically think so. But yeah, even now, I'm kind of deluding myself into thinking that she's never going to do that. Maybe she's changed for the better. Who knows? Whatever it might be, it's more of a cohesive group and it's much easier to watch.

I think she'll still have moments, you know, but they all do. But I think that the difference is I don't see a moment in which she goes back 50 steps to square one. That's been her MO in seasons past because she starts to make progress with a Dorit or a Kyle or whomever. and then some shit pops off and she's mad at a different person, but she yells at Doreet. It's like, well, what the fuck? Now we're back to zero. So I don't see that happening.

She'll definitely have some moments that have you scratching your head. Like, why do you do the things you do? But I kind of want some of those mixed in anyway. But with Amanda and- She's in a better place. That's actually a good point because if she's in a better place, those moments are going to be either, they're either going to hit a lot harder and actually be relevant to the conversation.

or it's going to be like a little bit of a step back where we see this all the time where people as on these shows which we haven't actually seen in a while they're in a much better place and then there's nothing we've got no drama to really talk about we've got no issues to talk about and then sutton could do something like that's like okay all right we'll take a little bit of this why not so if she gets to it back to a better place and this is consistent i'm okay with that yeah i agree i agree the war is over and both sides lost kingdoms were reduced to cinders an army scattered like bones in the dust. Now the survivors claw to what's left of a broken world,

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all to win the ultimate title of horror movie champion. Listen to Tickle to Death, wherever you get your podcasts, and hit follow unless you want the show to follow you. We have to wrap up Amanda and Eddie, because they're still talking, and I will give her, this isn't me giving her like, oh, you nailed it, but because she so desperately clearly wanted this line to be in the show, we saw it on the fucking screener or the trailers over and over again.

Her and Eddie are talking and, you know, he has to say it to her. You know, maybe they're just, uh, you know, intimidated and jealous to shut up, Eddie. No, they're not. They're not even remotely. No. But I don't know how many takes this took.

I don't know how many times she wrote this down. Maybe because I'm young and successful. And I didn't outsource my financial lobbying to a man. I didn't believe that. The things that she said up until this point have been more convincing than that statement. I was like, this sucks. You suck. I hate this.

Yeah, I can't stand her. The charm of being delusional on this show has run its course. I'm completely over anything that she's going to do. Yep. And, you know, the one question she asked is why does, and this is so important in my head, at least with how I analyze this shit. Why does Doreet care about my opinion in? regards to the the marriage she doesn't she cares that you have one that's the difference the

context of what you said is not important it's the fact that you felt that you could speak on der reet situation having not known anything about it or having not known to reet that's the fucking problem and again it's not that big of a deal if you squash it originally, it wouldn't be that serious because what you said wasn't that serious. So you could chalk it up to, oh, shit, sorry. I was just joining the conversation. Like, you know what? Now that you said that, you're right.

I should just butt out. It would be gone. And now it's turned into a five episode arc in which you're somehow burying yourself further. It's remarkable. We've never seen housewife free this poor. We haven't. It's just, it's a record. The other part of it is, and you can't even say, like, I kind of thought it would go down

this path where the other women just truly do not give a shit what she thinks. So they're not checking her and they're not telling her the opposite. Pretty much what you and I are just discussing right now. Like, hey, how do you not understand where DeReed's coming from? They have tried in so many different ways to explain to her why she's doing what she's doing and how that's wrong and how it's perceived is wrong by DeReed. She just doesn't get it. She already has her mind made up. And now she thinks that everybody else is just out to get her because she's young, successful, and didn't outsource her money to a man. That's all it is. Yikes.

The confusing part for me, I don't get it. I don't know what she does, why she does these things. But Kyle, because she's FaceTiming Erica and they're talking about Amanda's dinner party, she's supporting Amanda. I know. And I'm not saying that you can't ask questions and not pick aside. You can play neutral ever so slightly. But she's full-blown team Amanda.

She's like, she voiced an opinion, like pick a lane. She can have an opinion. She didn't say anything horrible. she's making an effort. What? So for you, like, what does that mean?

Making an effort by being a dick? Like she's being a dick. I know that, but at least she's trying. What kind of gymnastics are we doing to try to make Amanda not suck? The only thing I can think of is Amanda's opinion is somewhat in line with Kyle's opinion. And Kyle has been beaten down every time that she has an opinion about Doreet. So it's almost like Kyle's identifying Amanda as an ally in all of this, or at least

Pan and fodder where it's like, okay, I can just let her go out and do these things. And then, you know, maybe I can slip a comment in here and there and see if it gets me anywhere. I don't know. I still don't understand this is the big problem. I don't understand where Kyle's coming from. So the fact that now she's teaming up with Amanda or defending Amanda does make sense in the grand scheme of things. But when we go back to the root of everything, I still don't understand why Kyle thinks

the way that she thinks and why she's doing these things talking to Doreet or talking to other people about Doreet and her issue with P.K. None of it really makes sense to begin with. So it's already built on a shitty foundation. Now she's defending Amanda. And the only thing I can come up with is, well, it's kind of in line with what I'm thinking. So if I condemn her, then I'm condemning myself. And I'm not going to do that because I'm too proud.

That's really all I'm getting from Kyle. But she's going to end up just putting herself in such a bad place and all of this good shit that she's building with Dorete on the East Coast. it'll come crumbling down immediately once you get back there and you're backing Amanda again. I think that's why it's bothering me so much because the vibes in the Hamptons are fine. Like, I'm cool with this. I understand there's that underlying like eye roll from both of them every once in a while. Like, oh, yeah, that's okay. We can work past that because the general vibe is that they're having fun.

We're at that fashion party. Yeah. And Doreen and Kyle are both excited. They're excited to be out. They're excited to hang out. They're talking about in the confessional. man, I remember when we used to do this together all the time. Like I miss those days.

We're bridging that gap. But that conversation with Erica makes me nervous because it's like, well, are you going to throw away all the progress you've made on the East Coast just to say Amanda's making an effort by being an asshole, but she's still making an effort that doesn't make any sense. And it just shows how little loyalty you really truly have to Doreet or to anybody on this show. And I think that that comes back to Kyle being checked out or thinking that she's better than the show. Like, I don't think that she actually invests any real emotion or time into these relationships. I think they are a business deal. And that's it. And I think that how she's treating this Amanda thing compared to the Doret thing is proof of that.

Yeah. Kyle won't let go of what her opinion is. That's what it is at the end of the day. She just automatically thinks that she's right. she doesn't care enough for Derreet to hear the other side of it and actually think like, oh, maybe I can change my way of thinking. She's already made up her mind. She already thinks that Derreet's wrong and she's right and she's never going to budge on that.

And just the emergence of Amanda coming in with a similar opinion shows you exactly where she is because everybody hates Amanda. And you can tell that the writing is on the wall. No one can stand this woman. And you're still backing her just because she has a similar opinion. That's really all of it. Yeah, it's stupid. It's annoying.

And I just want her and Dorit to move forward in any kind of fashion. That does not have us yelling at each other at the Viper room. Like, just fucking chill. It's been fun. I like it. We like it. The show is in an upward trend for the first time in four years. And Kyle, you hold the key to that.

And it's so simple. Just move forward with Derreet. Please. I don't know why we're getting hit over the head with Xander fucking Black. Who is this man? Mohavi Gray. I listened, of course, I went to, it's interesting.

It's like, you actually, they even research on them? You listened to songs? I had to. Well, after Zander Bleck, the name,

because first of all, change your name, buddy, you know, Xander's great. Bleck? Come on. Like,

if you want, it feels like a cat thrown up in the corner. You're going to the entertainment industry. You can change whatever you want. If you changed it to that, maybe he did. I don't know. But yeah, they are self-described like, you know, we're changing how rock and roll sounds.

Like, it's different. We're different. Look at my hat. That's like Eddie fucking music. I'm from New Jersey and I live in California, but I wear a cowboy hat. Yeah. Fuck you, dude. That's any fucking musician that I know, too. He was sitting at his friend's house and he heard the cat in the corner throwing up going black. And he's like, hey, whoa, say that again. Oh. Say it's slower. Let me put a riff over that. Oh, that sounds good. Yeah, I'm changing my name.

And Mojave Gray was bored. Yeah, whatever. Also a stupid fucking name. I can't. Like, the whole thing was so cheesy. That's why I had to comment on it. The whole thing about the Mojavee Desert is like there's really cool colors and shit that like happened with the sunrise and sunset. And it's really beautiful.

And you choose Bahavi gray. Boring. Yeah, black. Exactly. I think we kind of figured this one out. Yeah, we got there. I knew we would. But let's do a quick check in with Bose and Lael.

Love this duo always. Layel just seems like such a great kid. We got a great head on our shoulders. Now, we do have something to talk about real quick before we move on. Okay. We may have misread the Keely situation because we were under the impression that both of them wanted this baby, right? That this was a joint venture. like, hey, I want this, you want this, we all want this.

I forgot, and this is on me, that Keeley's the one that seems to be pushing this thing more. And Bose feels like she's going to disappoint Keeley if she can't give him a child. So with that in mind, first of all, comments, just thank you. You pointed it out. And you know us, we will always cop to this shit if we get it wrong. I forgot that. So yeah, if that is what's happening behind closed doors and he really is pushing this, like, hey, I really want a kid to the point that she feels like she has to deliver a kid.

Yeah, that's fucked up. And I rescind. This is what happens. See, we praised him in that other episode. And then we have to reel it in. Listen, I mean, we always take our nod from how Bose is going to handle these things. And it seems like Bose also really wanted the kid. And she also discussed with him.

And obviously, you know, I assume because she's incredibly intelligent, that she's going to make the right call. And even that being in a relationship. not just a business idea. So that's on us. We didn't read the room. We didn't read between the lines. Hand up. Again, we're still going to keep our ear to the ground and see how this whole thing goes and see how she talks about this.

But yes, that was a little bit more eye-opening than what we thought was going on there. Yep. But, you know, integrity first, around. We got lots of integrity. And we will always, always admit, if we get something wrong. Yep. But anyway, let's get back to Amanda. because Amanda and Erica are hanging out and, you know, Amanda has mistaken Erica's jokes for genuine

because Erica has made fun of and has, like, she leaned into the manifesting and the journaling thing in a lighthearted kind of way. She wasn't being rude about it. Right. But she also wasn't like, oh, my God, this is going to change my life. Amanda thinks that she did. she's like, oh, she really cares about the manifesting. She loves the journaling.

She really gives this shit. I don't know why the front door is wide open. It's a scorcher. It's a scorcher. Close the fucking door. Eric, walking through the house, too, when there's just a mess everywhere. Yeah, it is a mess.

This is a mess. These fucking kids. Eric is having a great season. I honestly did think that this whole scene was going to be on the heels of Erica. obviously, you know, contributing a little bit to the manifestation that we saw last week. I thought it was going to be Amanda pitching one of her workshops. Like, you really do well in this specifically. I should have you come out and like hang out with me and you can see what I do.

That would have been really funny because I do want to see Erica's reaction to something like that. Well, the fact that she leads off with, you know, money is my mood. That's your bug. I was like, oh, we might be in store for one of those. But Erica, Erica can handle herself. she can also steer their conversation. She also take control of the room when she has to. And she does more or less because she brings up the behavior that we've witnessed from Amanda recently.

She's like, look, if you say something, just say it right away and own it. This is coming from experience. I had my own difficult time in this group because of my personal shit, all the Tom Gerardi stuff. And it's an odd thing to, you know, be vulnerable and open. The way she does this was so fucking funny because she has. had one goal in mind. In my head, she's going through this spiel to be like, hey, this is how you should navigate this group a little bit better.

No, no. She's just trying to figure out a way that she can get to the cult because it comes out of left field entire. You know, it's nothing to be voted. We want to know about the cult. Yeah. We need to know about this cult thing. A burning question.

We're all thinking about it. I think about it every night before I go to sleep. I need answers. We need to know about the cult. I mean, we need to know about your background. We need to know, how did you get to where you are, starting with the cult, actually. Maybe the cult, though. Where was that?

When did that start? Yeah, let's start there. Let's start there. Let's hear all about this cult. Her story about the fucking cult, by the way, she's still like, I don't know. Did you get the same vibe that I got? She's still explaining it in a way that like maybe it wasn't a cult, but it was pretty close to a cult.

No, I think. Full-blown cult. I think that there's a level of, I'll give her credit, for being open on this one. And I would imagine there's a level of shame that comes with this. So maybe she's trying to soften the blow to make herself feel like she didn't get duped so hard. She gives us the full story.

Like I'll give her credit for opening up about the cult. And weirdly enough, and Erica comments about it, this is the above and beyond far and away the most likable that Amanda's ever been, ever in her life, not just on this show, is in this moment talking about the cult because it's not fake. I believed everything she was saying. Even when she has some endearing moments, I'm like, yeah, good for you for walking away from that thing. Because the way it went, she was in high school. She lived in the Bible Belt.

Her parents were not religious, which would be a weird thing growing up in that area. So she tried to explore religion a little bit, fell in with a youth group. Youth group pastor was a wacko. That dude leaves Oklahoma to go to Florida, brings his quote unquote flock with him to start a church. And the culty shit really starts. You're marrying him. You're dating him, this, that, the other. All of you have sex with me.

I'm sure that probably happened. That's what happens in cults. Yeah. But at one point, a year and a half into it, she kind of woke up, I guess, and saw, and I was like, oh, my God, this is a cult. I called my parents. They confirmed, yeah, that's a fucking cult. So I woke up, or it was dinner time or something.

I drove to my sister's house in Orlando to start my own life. I wanted to make my own money, do my own thing and kind of conquer the world. if I didn't know who Amanda was before this and I just got this story and it ended with I'm going to get my degrees, make my money and make my mark, I'd be like, fuck yeah, who is this chick? She rocks. Hell yeah.

Way to walk away from a cult. I'm on your team. Bottle this moment up and be this person for the rest of your tenure on this show. You might have a shot. You may have a chance. This was fine. No chance. There's just no chance because once she gets back into how she's making money,

she has to like, I don't even necessarily blame her because she's already kind of made this bed. The way that she makes money, her whole career, everything that she built is based on being that person. So she can't not be that person, unfortunately.

We're going to get glimpses where it's talking about pretty much the pre-Money Queen shit. We're going to get glimpses into who she actually is. She's lost all of that. I mean, she is who she is now. Yeah, you're right. But when she goes back in time to really kind of go through different stories that happened to her,

what she went through. You get a glimpse. When she was younger, you get a glimpse into who she actually is, but she's forgotten who that is. She's now the money queen. Everything that she says from now on out is just going to be bullshit. I think you're right. And that's a really good analysis, honestly.

It's like, yeah, this is you, but you've buried this person so far down with manifesting and journaling. But let's head back to the Hamptons. And we're at dinner after their little dardy, their little fashion dardy. And vibes are high, man. Kyle and Derreet, they're still viving. Derrits ordering chicken tendies and some fucking fries. Hell yeah, I don't need Xander Bleck.

I don't need this. Nope. Don't need this fucking guy in his cowboy hat strolling up. And whatever, Derreet has fun. She's flirting a little bit. How old are you guys? 26 or 40. You look 40.

So it's probably 40. I don't know if you're trying to say you look 26. I don't know why I don't like this guy so much. I really. I don't like him either. And I just don't understand why he's. He's there. That's really at the end of the day. I don't get why he's there. It's not like Kyle said, oh, yeah, I met Zander while I was doing this, this and this. And like I'm really excited to see him. He was that. I was dating Morgan Wade. I hang it out with Morgan Wade. It seems like Rachel or maybe one of her friends or family members like sort of loosely knows who he is, but maybe just from going to go to his shows. Why is this guy here? It doesn't know my theory. Why? What?

So I think that this dude probably grew up in like Montclair or something in Jersey, like probably. summered in the Hamptons didn't want to be like all the other rich people so he started playing guitar I think that he's part of the Hampton crew and he probably makes the rounds from these parties playing these little gigs like around the island like that would be my guess

yeah no that's that's pretty much what he does but again why is he on the show why is he sitting down because he was at the party playing that party Rachel had he's an acquaintance she knows who he is he must know And then I, yeah, I agree. Because the fact that they had Mojave Gray on there multiple times,

like promoting their band tells me that you know somebody on this show. So I don't know if he's an acquaintance. But I think also it's like, oh, well, here's like a quote unquote cowboy that Dorek can flirt with. Like this is fun, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. The people that I routinely condemn that watch this show that keep inflating the ratings, they're going to inflate Mahi Gray's ratings too.

I guarantee. Oh, God. I did. No, no shots, but you know, those like 65 year old Midwest women that are just still like,

I got to watch my Beverly Hills. That's all I'm going to watch. It's the best show ever. They're also downloading all of Mahavi Gray's discovery. Yeah, it's kind of like when you two just popped up on everyone's iPhone. That they did that with everybody that's watching Beverly Hills. You now have Mojavee Gray in your iTunes.

So you're welcome. You still TiVo Beverly Hills. We're going to go ahead and also add Mojavee Gray to your library. Congratulations, guys. And watch what happens like. Yeah. He's going to be barred. Zander's going to be bartending on watch what happens live next week.

Oh, Jesus, Blex. What does he have on Andy? I don't know, dude. Zander Bleck, leave it to us to talk about this guy for 10 minutes. Sorry, sorry, everybody.

But the fact that Doreet married P.K. And had children with him. And she has the audacity to sit there and say that she wouldn't boink, Brad, I would point Brad Pitt. I'm a straight dude. There's no way that I can say no. If he was in my house, it was like, steel, come on. I'd like, ah, okay. Fine, Brad.

Come on. I can't say no to you. Look at that bone structure. This is ridiculous. I don't know if she's trying to defend marrying P.K. In this moment, I don't know what this was. I know it's not that big of a deal. But I think it's one of the more ludicrous statements to make that anybody in this world

would not have sex with Brad Pitt. Yeah, I didn't get this at all. This didn't make any sense. She was trying to like posture as, well, you know, I go off of feelings and vibes and, you know, romantic feelings towards someone. Not okay. I don't have any feelings towards Brad Pitt. It's like, what are you talking about, lady?

What are we doing here? By the way, you're single, hot and live in Beverly Hills. You might actually have a shot at banging Brad Pitt. You should be talking a little bit more. Him and Kyle and Derreet actually could potentially, right? Yeah, it's a non-zero chance that they could bang Brad Pitt. Right. So like that would be a great storyline. If Kyle Adreda like, okay, me versus you. Let's see who can boink Brad Pitt. Oh my God. That's a show. Ben Brad Pitt on all of these shows instead of Mauricio popping up all over. Hell yeah. See? You're welcome. He went on, uh, he was on Dave with little dicky. I mean, maybe he'll do this too. Who knows? Uh, I don't know. That's different. But, but, but they start talking about Amanda's event and the Amanda V. Sutton thing.

Because obviously they weren't there for, but it was brought to their attention that Sutton said to Amanda, you aren't taking responsibility for your own thoughts. You keep pivoting and throwing it over at Kyle. And Durit has her Sutton moment where she's like, you know what? She's checked in making big strides and approves that she's changing. She goes as far to say, I'm excited about this friendship. That's crazy. We went from yelling at a sprint or van last year to I'm excited for my friendship with Sutton. Yeah, it's very funny.

And this is, I did point this out earlier where it kind of annoys me. Like Sutton last year versus Sutton this year, completely different person. Like, all right, I don't need to hear that. But then you go back to see all of the things that Sutton did last year. And this, honestly, I think this is more kudos to Doreet. Because this is what you need on a show like this. You need to be able to just move on and not just check out. I mean, she's said it a bunch of times where she's addressed her friendship or lack there

of with Sutton. And she's like, there's nothing here. I'm never going to be friends with this woman. and yet here we go. A season later, all of a sudden, you're like, oh, wow, I actually like this version of Sutton. Maybe we could be friends. I'm excited about a friendship.

Like, that's what I want. I want that fickle attitude when it comes down to that thing, especially with Housewife shows because so much shit happens. But there is a noticeable improvement in Sutton with not only defending her friends, but also just being more part of the group. And that's what you want to see. Facts. Big facts.

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I actually really like these two together. They are such opposite ends of the spectrum that this friendship. that this friendship, I've rooted for it for a while. I think we had a debate like last year or the year prior that would they ever be friends? And I was like, I really want them to be because it's just fun. They're so different. But they get together and they are bringing Denise along. Now, the last time we checked in with Denise, we had an upside down pink jacket.

We had a lot of shenanigans afoot. And then we saw a lot come out in the press that may tell us why. she was in the place she was when we saw her last time on this show. As we know, her ex, Aaron is a massive, gigantic piece of shit. And we thought that the minute that we saw him on TV and he was acting as though

the FBI was tailing him, the way he talked to the women, the way he talked to Denise, the hand-crushing moment. And then we see on social media, Denise posts a picture of a very bad black eye. To confirm, yes,

Aaron is in fact a giant huge, disgusting piece of shit. I loved this scene. I thought this was the best we've seen Denise in years. I thought that the two Erica and Sutton were great in supporting her. And I am so proud's not the right word because it sounds patronizing. But I was very taken aback and very impressed with Erica when she goes into her story dealing with domestic abuse.

Like I had no idea. I was with Sutton. I'm like, oh my God. Like, and this is such an important. message, I think, to so many people out there, it's like, just because you assume, right, like Erica James so strong, Denise Richards, so strong, independent, this, that doesn't matter. Like, this can happen to anybody. And I think by Erica doing this on TV, being so open and vulnerable is going to help a lot of

people. And I thought that was just a really impressive moment from both her and from Denise. Yeah. No, I fully agree. I think this is the, obviously, this is the most cohesive and coherent that we've seen when it comes to Denise. and you know she is on the heels of coming off of her show so she did get a little bit more of a warm up when she was back in front of the cameras i mean when we did see her on beverly

hills last she was just kind of in and out in and out so a little bit of a different attitude a little bit of a different erratic behavior if you will but obviously now while she's taught yeah it made me sad too and obviously while she's talking everything through about what she went through with iron she's being very open as open as she can possibly be and you got to give her kudos for that but more than anything it just seems like she's in such a better place like she is so much better. She's back to not the crazy loopy Denise that we gotten used to, but more of like,

oh yeah, I'll talk about any of these things. I'll talk about the facelift that I got. I'm still a little bit numb under here. She just has nothing to really worry about. And she's gone through a lot. And the fact that she's now able to sit down with and again, Sutton and Erica have been friend of me, friends, you know, mostly friends for the last year and a half. They're in

such a better place. This is such a weird trio to be sitting down together and talking through all of these things. And being as open as they were. There was no protect this, which is usually what we're going to see when it comes to Erica. Denise was fully open, which I'm sure probably opened the door a little bit when it came to Erica.

And then looking right across the table at Sutton, like, hey, no one knows this. So don't feel bad. It's not like one of those situations where I told Kyle, I told Doreet, we kind of left you in the dark because it's my prerogative to do so. It was a no one knows this. I haven't told anybody this, but I'm relating to Denise.

And Sutton's just like, holy shit. Like saying all the right things, which again, I'm going give Sutton kudos too. She's not overdoing it. She's not pressing. She's not like appalled and saying weird shit. Like this is a quintessential episode for Sutton where

so many things could have gone wrong with her talk with Bose in the beginning. Now her talk with Erica and Denise on a very sensitive topic. She would usually say something that's like, why would you fucking say that? And instead it was very astute. It's very on point. Allowing Erica to talk a little bit more about what she went through, allowing

Denise to talk more about what she went through. Yes, she did have that whole reaction, which I think everybody did. I didn't know they took your fucking ears off sometimes for a facelift. That's wild. But that's a normal reaction. The rest of it, she was on point. And she was able to walk through everything and get them to keep talking. It was a very open and emotional scene.

And I did not expect that from these three. Dude, there was a moment where Erica opens up about her experience. And Sutton was taken aback. And we had that pause. And I was like, oh, fuck. she's going to say something stupid. I literally, I had it. It was going to happen.

I've seen it. She's done it. Bo's the same thing earlier. I was like, oh, fuck. But she doesn't. And like, I don't know. I need everyone listening to grasp how big that is. That is her biggest fucking hurdle is to not put her foot in her mouth.

And in two moments where she easily could have, one of them being a very, very big moment with Erica, she didn't. And she was supportive. And she was, she was saying the right things. And like, that's going to bolster that friendship even more.

Because now Erica feels supported by her. Denise feels supported as well. And we get this unlikely trio that I thoroughly enjoyed. I loved these three together. Never thought I'd say that. Denise, Erica, Jane and Sutton.

What? This show, man, what the fuck's going on? I don't know. I like it, though. Let's get to some questions.

Uh, from M. Bagel 5, if Beverly Hills was being renewed tomorrow, which housewives would you want back next year? Bring them all back except for Amanda and plug and play somebody else. Yes. That's my answer. I can't say that. I can't say that. No. Okay.

Is Amanda the reason that this is good? Uh, no. I mean, yes, but no. Yes. Yes, but no. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? No.

If she goes away at the end of the season, the debt, what's the, um, the, um, the, repair has already been done like usually say the damage has been done but it was repair damage from amanda repair from the rest of the group i i'm just afraid without her there they're going to turn their sights on each other again and we're going to get the same shit do we need one more season of amanda just to like really solidified group i think so yeah like they're held together by glue right now but it's not that good glue glumanda yeah it doesn't even make any sense it does though The money. Oh, God.

The glue queen. The glue queen. Yeah. I don't know. Let's see. I don't know where this is coming from, but and Brack. Oh, because in the Hamptons. And Brackman, man.

Summer House Beverly Hills mashup episode. I would actually, I think I would really like that. So I thought briefly, and I don't know why I thought this, but when I, yeah, because when Rachel said we're going to go to the Hamptons. I thought Erica was also going to the Hamptons, and this is when we were going to see a little bit of like Erica and Jesse Solomon talking. But I don't know. Yeah, because Beverly Hills films in the summer. So it does line up with when they would be there.

They would have. And they were also, I mean, they were in Montauk for this. But I mean, they've talked to Montauk before. Carl loves going there. I would actually, we've got one more episode. Hamptons, I would be a little surprised if we didn't see anybody from Summerhouse there. I would too. I mean, Kyle and Amanda talking to Kyle about Kyle and Amanda.

Oh, my God, that would be great. I don't know. I think there's something there. I think that'd be a very enjoyable episode. You have two very different ends of the spectrum with the crew in the Hamptons and like the rich and classy ladies of Beverly Hills. You could get some really funny scenes. From Pineapple Becks, would you like to see Denise back?

based on this scene alone. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, agreed. If this is what she's bringing to the show, and it looks like she could probably use, you know, some friends and stuff in this moment. So I think it's a win-win for her. And I mean, it seems as though she's coming back

in a friend of capacity. I would imagine if they gave her another shot this season after last season, their goal is to get her back on this show in a bigger capacity. So that's probably what we're seeing. Yeah. All right. Yeah. A couple people asked a lot of questions, though.

From Arlo and Blue, when did Eric and Denise make up? I didn't think they were friends after the last fight. Erica covered that. Yeah, Erica did cover that. She said that she reached out, especially after all the news broke about Denise and Aaron. She did say that she was the second person at Dexter. Uh-huh.

So I think that's, honestly, that covers it pretty well. I think, yeah. And I think the shared experience that they've had and like the fact that Erica reached out so quickly because I guess Charlie Sheen reached out first. Erica reached out second. And I forgot to say my favorite line from that is that Denise called Charlie Sheed and said that Aaron's making you look like a saint. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny.

That's funny. That is very funny. Last one here from Alia Alea Alvarez Marr. Sorry if I said that incorrectly. What happened to the Vanderpump recap? We're going to do a big catch-up at some point. Yeah. You know, we both work still aside from this, and we're covering like seven shows.

So we're trying to keep up with everything. But, yeah, we still watch it. It's still a good show. I actually really enjoy it. But yeah, we'll try to do like a big roundup before the reunion. And then next year we'll probably, if it's coming back, we'll probably do it. Yeah. No, I got renewed.

It did get renewed for a second season. It did. Yeah. So next year, we'll dive in further. We tend to do that with newer shows. If we have a full slate, we'll jump in for the first,

like four or five episodes and then we'll get, like, really into it next season. But, uh, yeah, we still support it. Just not,

not covering it currently. That's all, but support from afar. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, I don't know what to expect with Beverly Hills.

Never thought we'd be here. But I will see where we keep going. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope, all good here. Well, Robbros got to get our show out of here now. Yes, we do. Bye, guys.

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