Bros & Shows - Did Alexia Throws Marysol Under The Bus? (RHOM Full Recap)

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

What's up Bros? The RHOM crew is wrapping up their time on Richard Branson's cruise and we are seeing some peace finally. Lisa and Larsa agree to disagree and move on. Despite Larsa rehashing the past...... again. Alexia and Stephanie continue to butt heads but after a spa day even they are able to settle some differences. It takes an interesting turn when Alexia seemingly throws Marysol under the bus. Guerdy is heading to her first therapy appointment and as usual, we praise Guerdy for the strength and transparency with her trials and tribulations. Adriana celebrates her 32x2-5 birthday (bizarre move) and is down in the dumps until... she finds an ally in Stephanie when Stephanie starts to see that Marysol may be pulling the strings. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:35 The twisted tale of Amanda Knox is now streaming only on Disney Plus. Well, we're getting down to the wire here, shoots, and I'm going to tell you, I'm going to be sad to see Miami go, and you know how they are. They're going to take a year and a half to roll out the next installment, and it's been a great season. It's been a great season. It's such an easy watch. It's just something about housewives that are good. You look forward to watching it every week And maybe I'm just saying that Because the other housewife show on right now Is an absolute chore
Starting point is 00:01:03 But Miami is delightful I'm your pros and shows I gotta have me my pros and shows Bros and shows I gotta have me my Bros and shows Good morning everybody And welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows I'm your co-host Steel Russell
Starting point is 00:01:23 joined as always by the one and only South Beach McGeeots. What's up? pal without a whole lot little morning record session for the boys got a little coffee hanging out here just enjoying myself talking about miami and it's just a nice little nice little jaunt for us in the morning this episode is the perfect example of when you're invested in a cast you want to know more about the other stuff because in oc we had a similar episode last week and i love that O.C. continues to catch strays, regardless of what we're talking about, regardless of the one-star
Starting point is 00:01:58 reviews we're getting because people don't like that we're pitching about O.C. Don't care. But that's a good comparison because last week with O.C, we got this episode that was a lot of just filler. And we didn't give a fuck. We did not care. This show, we care. So you get a lot of the side stories, the side quests, if you will. And I want to know about them. I've invested in them. I want to hear about it. So it's a good example of a good cast and the different. in how much attention you pay to them, I guess. Yeah, it's definitely, the season has a different feel than the typical houseway format too, because usually what we do is we go on a full trip at the end of the season.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Then we come back and we maybe have one episode back in their hometown just to kind of unpack things and kind of set up for the reunion. This is where we all are at the end of the season. And we're getting to the end of this one. It's interesting because it seems like I don't feel like we're 15 episodes in. by any means it just does it simply does not feel like we've been here for 15 straight weeks and yet here we are and there's still so much and like yeah you get like a little bit of lisa and larsa which they're never actually going to be on good terms they're always going to
Starting point is 00:03:07 bounce back and forth but we get one or two of these a season and it's just great and we kind of expect it but it's still funny when they do it you know what i mean like it hasn't it hasn't run dry when they have those sit downs because you know something's going to pop off or they're going to get to the reunion and they're still going to be at odds it's just how it works it's a yo-yo situation but i feel like there's still some other things that need to be addressed and there's new things popping up where i know you've got stephanie who i know a lot of people don't really like it and i look i understand that i can see it from your point of view if you don't really like her as a housewife i have no complaints i have no real complaints about
Starting point is 00:03:42 stephanie she's not really annoying about just being so ignorant of what the other women don't like about her she's kind of understanding that but instead of really understanding that and this is a good trade or rather a good trait for a housewife to have is that instead of looking inward, which she did one episode of, nautical Stephanie, nautical Stephanie, she's now looking for who might be the real problem. And that's awesome. Because if you can see through that and we can spend an entire episode right now talking about the dynamic of Alexia and Marisol's friendship and who really is the leader, I didn't really know up until now. And now it seems to be all fingers pointing towards Marisol that she's moving in the back.
Starting point is 00:04:23 just trying to, like, dictate different things. And it's crazy because I never really thought that. I always thought because Alexia is the loud boisterous one, that she's the one who's really telling Marisol what to do. But in reality, Marisol is pulling strings here, there, and wherever. And it's so interesting because I feel like it just flew so far under the radar. And it's taken Stephanie now, you know, she's been in for like 13 episodes. She's kind of honing in on that.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So I like that because, one, it's going to bring Marisol to the forefront, which is what we want, because I do think that she's a pretty good character. I think she's a good house. She should be full time. She should be. And again, we never really fucking understand how that works. It has to be. She doesn't want to be, but she has more screen time than half of the full time housewives.
Starting point is 00:05:06 But she remains to be a friend of. Like, it has to be a choice at this point. It has to be a choice at this point. So it's going to set up things that we haven't seen before, which is what we want. Yes, we've gotten into all of the Lisa stuff. We've gotten into all of the Larsa stuff. We've gotten into Julia. we don't really like Julia we don't want any more Julia
Starting point is 00:05:25 Adriana is a wild card that'll pop off here and there or whatever but if she gets in the mix and she's with Stephanie and they're going after Marisol cool we haven't seen that before and if we can still do this and this is what season six or seven I don't even know anymore I think it's happened we're in season seven right now we really haven't seen somebody go after Marisol she's always just kind of been the comedic relief she's always been the one who's trying to get the group together and so many
Starting point is 00:05:53 ways but she's really not if we can see this and it's something new and it actually hits and it's the end of the season that's awesome that's a great way to end the season yeah and i think i'm not going to be the guy that's like i knew it was marisole all along i'm not as taken aback by it it makes it a lot more sense to me that she's the one pulling the strings i also like it's interesting because when you look at other housewives and other franchises and when they're moving a certain way. It's like, okay, what's the motive? With Marisol, I find it, and I could be naive or just under her spell because I love her so much. I find it hard to believe that she has like malicious intent trying to like wheel and deal around the group. I think that when her piece is
Starting point is 00:06:38 affected or when she's irritated by something or someone, she's quick to respond and try to just do it her way to solve the issue and be like, all right, fuck off. I don't see her as like sitting at home with like this vindictive plan like okay i'm going to turn alexia against so and so and i'm going to point her this way i don't think it's that deep i just think that when you mess with her piece she doesn't like that but what is interesting about the steff and marisal clash that we may be lining up for and it seems to me like what they're doing is setting it up for the reunion so when we get there we can start to hash everything out we'll probably get a big blow up in the finale and then we'll have to talk about it with andy which
Starting point is 00:07:20 is good, gives us more content, and potentially gives us that very difficult to achieve three good parts of a reunion. Right. So I'm excited that they're adding that in there at the end. And what these housewives do so very well is it's always organic. I don't feel like they're shoving this down our throat. I don't feel like they're trying to make us believe, like, oh, now these two are getting into it because it's real.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And you can tell that it's real, because one, all of these women are actually friends. You can tell that. And two, Stephanie is really easy to read, and you can tell her reactions are genuine. So, like, I like that part about this show. They've done a really good job of that since we started covering it. And as far as, and before we get into it, like the Lisa Larsa stuff, to go back to that, any other duo in any other show, we would be so irritated by it at this point. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:11 You're doing this again. Kiss and makeup and all that. Yeah. We've actually seen that on a lot. we can probably point to like four or five different franchises very quickly where we've seen that and it's like enough like just I actually remember specifically saying it's okay if you're not friends it's okay if you don't like each other just spare us because we're tired of this shit and yet every season we have this with Lisa and Larsa and Larsa is a bit of an
Starting point is 00:08:38 enigma too because she we've pointed to her not having a storyline all season she typically doesn't have much of a storyline unless it's you know doing a podcast with Marcus separation anxiety shout out my favorite podcast hashtag my air pod yeah but other than that like she doesn't really do a whole lot and yet she's involved in a lot of shit and we always have to see what her reaction is and weirdly enough I want to see what her reaction is to things are going on in a group I just don't really understand what it is about Larsa that just makes her a good housewife because she's typically not doing a whole lot but yet I want to know what she's up to it's just yeah she's an integral part
Starting point is 00:09:16 of the cast because of the uniqueness she brings to it in that regard of she doesn't like literally never has an actual story even with Marcus like that was a whatever storyline like we didn't really care we just like to make fun of it because of the age gap and the fact that she was married to Scotty
Starting point is 00:09:32 Pippen like that was why that was fun look if every three seasons she has her own storyline and it's something similar to what the Marcus storyline was last year it's so funny but if I do feel like if she had something like that every year we'd be like all right that would be too much this is boring but when it happens every three
Starting point is 00:09:51 years it's funny because you get to just make fun of how ridiculous it is that she's throwing him a party for coming he was away for three days like we have to have a welcome home party for marcus he needs to feel welcome here it's like what are we doing he's been gone for four days dude what are we talking about but like it is really funny what it is but like with both of them they're so self-absorbed they're so so arrogant and they do not take criticism well. I will say Lisa with the early arrivals is fascinating, especially because, well, she's been on time like three times in a row now to the point that she's setting alarms. So like if you go back to the Stephanie thing on the sprinter van weeks ago, months ago
Starting point is 00:10:41 at this point, like people don't like Stephanie. look nobody else has been able to get Lisa to be on time not one person has been able to get Lisa to respect the time I get there until Stephanie fucking did it's a combination of that and I do really think and I know she didn't really speak on it but I do really think that when it finally hit her personally when she was late for that flight and had to do all of those connecting flights in 24 hours of travel I think it really fucked her up I think it really did actually make her say, shit, I need to be on time for things. So that this never happens again.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And obviously, that's not going to happen if you're late for a dinner on a cruise. Like, you can just show up wherever the hell you want. Like, there's no times. There's no clocks on cruises from what I have. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows that. Like a casino. But it seems to have had some sort of, like, deep effect on her.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And I don't think we'll ever get her to talk about her full day of travel. But I'm just imagining any normal. And I know Lisa's not normal, but there's a spectrum. here and she is very far to the other side, it's going to affect a lot of people that you had to travel and get on different planes and take a train from this place to one place and people weren't speaking English. Like, it probably fucking sucked. It's almost like a mini trauma.
Starting point is 00:11:56 So maybe that did have an effect on her. She'll never talk about it. But we can talk about it because I do think that's what it really is. I think that you're completely right there. But let's dive in to this episode. And of course, we have to start out with a little aerobics class and some shake weights. I forgot about shake weights. That commercial forever lives in my brain because I always remember how ridiculous it was.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And then being in the fitness industry, every single gym I've worked at without fail has had to shake weight. And I've never understood why. Do they still have the hydration booster at the end? Like when you're finished, it shoots some water underbats? That's from South Park. No. But anyway, we even get to die. back into like these ladies in the 80s you know Alexia obviously we all know about her ex-husband
Starting point is 00:12:48 and his involvement with drugs and cocaine and you know he's in that documentary cocaine cowboys she's in that as well it's a great watch if you haven't seen it yet it's fascinating but do like Miami in the 80s must have been absolutely nuts and what I didn't need what I really didn't need you know if they're happy by all means we don't age shame here we don't kink shame we don't do any of that nonsense but when you see a picture
Starting point is 00:13:18 of a four year old and she's like and Massoud was in college I was like I don't like this that's not fun I don't need the reminder yeah but anyway we don't we don't need to go back in time for that one no that's okay don't give us Amazon Sue was in college oh gross you know what the funny thing is
Starting point is 00:13:33 why didn't and maybe this is just something I noticed we didn't see Larsa, like everybody. Every single person on the cast. You know why. Because it was pictures of Scotty. No, because I would imagine. No, I know why. I just want to see what he said. No, that would be funny though.
Starting point is 00:13:49 But yeah, I just think that one, I would imagine that the ladies had to sign off on photos and given the transformation she has gone through from even when this show started to now, she probably says no when it comes to throwback picks, especially because anytime something like with without fail anytime Larsa gets into some shit and you go on social media, the first way that people start to take digs at her is just posting old pictures of her. And I'm pretty sure she's probably over it by now. Yeah, she's probably over it.
Starting point is 00:14:19 But you know what would have hit really hard? And I don't know. I guess this probably wasn't the 80s because I don't think Scotty Pippen joined until, I think he joined in 89. 88, wasn't it? Well, Jordan got drafted in 88, but I don't think Scotty joined until the next year. But either way, the way that that would have hit if it was a picture of Scotty. Larsa, Michael.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Dennis Rodman. No. Oh, it would be Marcus. Although I don't think Marcus was Morgan. I'm pretty sure Marcus is our age, so I don't think he was. Oh, boy. Hey, boy. Anyway, Alexia and Larsa and Stephanie and all them, they're talking about the Lisa
Starting point is 00:14:57 Larsa debacle. It's like, look, guys, and this is part of the cycle that we see. We get to a point. The rest of the ladies are like, all right, this one's been going on long enough. Can we just seal this one up so we can move on and you guys can get into something else soon? We have to do this every year. This is tired. This one has gone on too long.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Usually our cutoff is like three weeks. This has been going on for like a month and a half. 15 weeks. So. Yeah. It's time and this is a staple in every season. These two have to come back together. And the group also recognizes it so shallow and face value what they're like going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:15:35 but it's like just fucking move on. And Larsa immediately like starts talking about the past. They're like, nope, that's the issue. It doesn't matter. It does not matter. You both have your feelings. Let's just agree to disagree and move on. We'll see how it goes.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And Alexia and her confession was like, you know, just shut up and stop being assholes. It's like, yeah, we agree. We're all in the same page. We all agree. And we all know how it's going to play out. But one of my favorite things, especially with this franchise, is when they finally get fed up. Because typically it's somewhat aligns with us when we're watching. at home. When the cast gets fed up on other shows, we're done. We've been done for like
Starting point is 00:16:10 weeks and you guys are finally fed up or sometimes on shit franchises. They'll think it's good TV and they'll just continue to do it. With this franchise for whatever reason, we're about fed up with it or about to get fed up with it and the cast is getting fed up with it. And it's like, okay, this is good. We're aligned right now. We want it to be over with. You want it to be over with. Let's put an end to it. Good job, guys. Good timing. Well done, everybody. Let's get let's get topside that's what they say in the uh in the nautical world nautical world yeah yep let's go topside and uh these are the reasons let's talk about boats for a second stern bow portside uh
Starting point is 00:16:47 is portside right side i don't know i always forget i don't know wayside it's hoping you would know this you're more we're talking about like living a poeg lifestyle earlier dude i would fucking crush it in a poeg lifestyle i am a poeg trapped in the suburbs give me a shack by the water raise my kids outside with a boca doc and a fucking like bungalow I'm chilling when you said
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Starting point is 00:19:42 It makes sense. I hope that you can at least acknowledge she is adding to the show. I think that she's contributing. So I think that's important to note. But I do get the irritation with her when, you know, is that a mimosa? Is it fresh squeeze? Because if it's not, I just break out and do it. It's like, no, you don't.
Starting point is 00:19:57 No, you don't. That's just silly. That's a silly thing to say. And it's like, we get it. You're really rich. You're on Richard Branson's like maiden voyage of the, God, oh,
Starting point is 00:20:07 Brazilian rock star. I almost said diligent lady. You're a diligent lady. Do you think it's tropicata? No. It's not. It's probably something nice and it's probably, and if it's not,
Starting point is 00:20:21 who gives a shit? You're drinking fucking remosos is a 10 a. Who cares? Like I just, that stuff bothers me too. but Adriana has a noticeable cloud over her and we know how she is and I have grown to love sulky Adriana because I do but you could also tell how hard she's trying to get sympathy from people and that cracks me up because she has like a permanent frown stamped on her face
Starting point is 00:20:48 she doesn't respond to anybody without just kind of like yeah I know okay like it it just makes me laugh and it's all coming back to like again she is uh turning 59 as we find out later from a bizarre cake experience i'm actually with her on that that was fucked up yeah but she's you know she's feeling a little blue she's being a little bit blue but before we can really get to trying to cheer adriana up which i'm not sure we did but whatever it was a funny scene Lisa and larsa have their moment and we're doing a detox and everybody in the fitness industry knows you're gonna detox It's wine with a green juice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:28 We all know this. Retox. Detox. It's how you keep your body in balance. Okay. That's all I was trying to do when I was drinking. Just balance it out. I drank a lot of-
Starting point is 00:21:40 Did you drink green juices? No, no. The Orioles were sponsored. You know if you drink too much data. I should have. Kidney stones. Yeah. Well, we were sponsored by body armor.
Starting point is 00:21:49 So the clubhouse was filled with it. So now when I see body armor, like the hair in the back, my neck stands up because all I can taste is body armor and vodka. yeah yeah it's not not great anyway to me with vitamin water but that's from oh yeah remember that vitamin water tuesdays fucking ridiculous that was our tuesdays in high school guys yeah times anyway let's get to lisa and larsa and immediately of course larsa brings up the paparazzi comment okay so we've been warned or larsa's been warned let's leave it alone just just move on but immediately she has to bring up a gripe luckily and you could argue and i i'd be hard pressed to find evidence
Starting point is 00:22:32 against it lisa has grown this season we have seen growth in a lot of ways she's she's showing up on time she's not talking about lanny even though she just got divorced officially if there was a time to talk about lennie now would be the time she's not right she only did it one time yeah we were out at Julia's selected grandparents or grandparents godfather that's the only time that she's really brought it up and all she did was one simple cheers i'm finally divorced she got her flowers from people no one's talking about it she's not talking about it like what in what world are in i have no idea could you imagine if a couple years ago when we were going through all of this letty shit when it first happens which by the way this is one of the faster divorces that we've
Starting point is 00:23:14 ever seen in bravo history oh and but it's not it's not it's just like that's what's again fascinating with this show. It's been three years, dude. Yeah, but like, even three years is pretty fast in the Bravo world, I feel like. I guess. I don't know. Actually, you really fucked up that curve. Yeah, that whole timeline. Are they divorced yet? I still don't. No, they are. Yeah, they are finally are. That's right. We had a little celebration about that. But to highlight the growth some more, she just goes, you know what? Like, she's in a confessional. She's like, I can't do this shit anymore. She's like,
Starting point is 00:23:45 agree to disagree. She bites the bullet. And I think it's really interesting. because when you go to the whole issue that like the paparazzi thing I do believe that the paparazzi told her that yeah Larsa called us like that I think is true and any other housewife would be like
Starting point is 00:24:06 if she had a gripe would take that one and just run with it Lisa just wants to move on which I'm glad I don't think I guess at the core of this issue is that Lisa is saying Larsa sent the paparazzi to take pictures I don't know if that's true, but I do think
Starting point is 00:24:21 that Larsa was either contacted by the paparazzi or contacted the paparazzi in some way, shape, or form, but I do think that, like, paparazzi is probably taking pictures of him regardless. I mean, I think that she, which Bravo is getting their money's worth with that picture. They just keep showing I know, dude. I know. Poor, like,
Starting point is 00:24:38 that poor guy. I guess not really. I mean, maybe not. He seems like an asshole. I don't seem kind of like a dick. I don't know. Yeah. Regardless, she agrees to not talk about Jody, uh, Lisa agrees to be nicer and if I have to hear, you know, a friend dig one more time from Larsa, then I'm going to lose my mind.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I'm over the like, you're just not a good friend. I'm a great friend because Larsa is a terrible friend, but whatever. I do love that they match each other's energy though because you could see pretty much Larson could go either way, pretty much any argument, any conversation, any rehashing or whatever it might be. She's ready to do whatever and she was ready to flip that switch, but she took her sunglasses off. She was ready to go. When Lisa took her sunglasses off to match her
Starting point is 00:25:21 energy, she was crying. Yeah, I know. She's like, all right, never mind. We're just going to dead this. I'm going to put those back on. You know what? You put it back on. Larson took her sunglasses off and she had like the bitchiest face. Like she was ready to go to war. Lisa takes her sunglasses off. Little tear just like strolls down her face. It's like, all right.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah, okay, fine. We're okay. Here, let's cheers our green juice and wine and let's just move on. from this and all the ladies get wind of it everybody's celebrating and then since we resolved one conflict and i know we had issues with kiki early on this see it was like kind of an up and down season because on one hand we got more of her personal life which was so fascinating and her story's incredible to hear how strong she was coming from haiti and all of that and like the life that she's made is so cool and we all we've wanted is more from kiki at the same time
Starting point is 00:26:12 watching the interactions with gerty was kind of tough because she seemed like she wasn't really having her back and telling her to leave after she got water thrown on her. All that stuff was a little confusing. She's definitely hit her stride since we've gotten away from the garty shit early on. And what she's doing now is like this is top to your house wifery because now she's bringing up shit. And I like that because we're sitting there. We've resolved Lisa and Larsa. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:26:39 What about Stephanie and Alexia? I'm like, hell yeah. Kiki, like bring that shit up. Let's talk about it. And. Of course, we have to get the alpha thing again. I fucking love it. I love it so much.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I wish they would go back to comparing dog names or dog breeds. But they're both alphas. And they do act very similarly. How they relay their information is slightly different. Yeah. But they're very similar. Neither is willing to give ground. That's really what it comes down to.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Because we've seen a lot of different, I don't even want to call them arguments. We'll call them TIFs with this cast in particular. one person's always willing to just kind of like lay down and take it at some point like yeah the initial argument but we've been this is like argument seven or eight of the season between these two and neither is willing to give any ground that every time that you think that they might and they start off a sentence a little bit lower uh like a lower tone or they're willing to take some responsibility they just completely turn it and they're like well that is just how i'm i'm like and you're also like that too it's like they immediately flip the blame and it's very interesting to watch the two of them
Starting point is 00:27:46 just kind of butt heads. I don't think they're that similar overall, like personality-wise, but they argue the same. And that's the problem with me. There's really willing to take any responsibility without the other one taking it. Because I do think once one person does, then they'll flip and the other person will.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And then they'll be a paper a little while. It's just you can't really get to that point. And nobody wants to chime in. Nobody wants to help them. I do like the style of let's go do this on our own because that depends to work better, which is funny because a couple of years ago, we always said hash it out in front of the group.
Starting point is 00:28:18 But it does depend on the case by case basis. It's a case by case who's involved and what's the argument? Yeah. Like do you need outside influence to make sure that everything is said or do we need these two to resolve it because this has been going on too long and we need resolve? Let's go one on one. If we like what's happening and we want it to continue a little bit longer, let's get the group involved and throw some more stones in there.
Starting point is 00:28:41 But I think it's interesting that she immediately with Marisol present. throws Marisol under the bus. This is the first time this episode she does that. And this is a light toss. This is throwing her under, you know, like a sprinter van. Not a full-sized bus. Not a full bus, but like a sprinter van full of housewives. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:01 It's not too deep. And Marisol takes it fine. And she, you know, she's not lying. She is telling the truth as to what happened. Like, look, Marisol didn't want to go. Like, she had issues with everything that happened. It was more her than me. And that is the truth.
Starting point is 00:29:14 So Marisol's not like, yo, what the hell? She's like, yeah, okay, fine, whatever. And that's kind of Marisol's whole thing. She doesn't really, if it's honest, that's what I love about Marisol. Like, she'll stand by her shit always. If she says some shit, it does some shit. She's like, yeah, I did that. And she'll talk about it with people.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And I love that about her. But I did think it was interesting that this happened, especially the scene we get later when they're in the spot. But we are setting up some stuff for Adrian's birthday, regardless of how she feels about her birthday and don't worry and everybody knows this about virgin boats they all have male strippers yeah it's not really what we got i could do that yeah that that when the waitress came over she was ready to go she was so excited to camera i can maybe not everybody else but i can i can yeah and not only that the guy in the back was ready to roll and i can't he was about the strip there he was
Starting point is 00:30:07 like okay did somebody call me yeah they called me buddy that's what just pop this shirt off real quick i immediately thought to myself i'm like this guy's probably got like daughters at home that watch real housewives and he can't wait to get off that boat to tell them and give him a call i'll be like hey uh i'm going to be on that next season of real housewives of miami keep an eye out for me and they're really excited to watch them and that's his line they're like dad come on dad and he's like he told you she didn't know your dad was a stripper ha ha ha ha i hate you dad no this is my mom left uh no you know what happened they went up to a bunch of poor stews on the boat and they're like hey you're uh bottom of the barrel here you're gonna strip today and they're like okay we're gonna
Starting point is 00:30:52 put some flaming shots on your tray uh do you have anything skimpy uh scratch that we'll just cut up some shirts here you go yeah we're gonna cut your nipples off the shirt and uh yeah if you don't do this then the nipples out i said nipples off but cut your nipples out of the shirt yeah i got scared yeah don't actually no we're not we're not trimming nips here but if you don't do this that Branson's going to give you a call. And nobody wants to get a call from the Branson. That actually is true. If they didn't have mail strippers,
Starting point is 00:31:16 Branson would have given them a call. Although I do-Nor would have called Branson. When it comes to, you know, the Uber wealthy, he seems like the I just want to have fun kind of guy. Oh, for sure. I don't know a lot about him. Dude, you can smoke cigarettes and take shits on his boat, whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You can drop deuses anytime on his boat. And everyone knows that's the brabler. Any time, anywhere. You want to smoke a cigarette and poop. Go for it. Now you're living. Welcome to first. version cruises.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Let's get to the spa day. The spa did look sick. And you have the contrast tubs, which I'm a huge fan of, the ice hot. Great set up there. Vibes are great. Would you have done what Kiki did?
Starting point is 00:31:55 Because I love the speed run through there. Dude, the speed run rocks. I feel like I would have treated it like a water park. I would have gone tub to tub to room to room. And then I would have found something that I really love. And I have a feeling it would probably be the mudroom. But I would find something that I really enjoy.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And I just end on that. there. Yeah, definitely. Test everything out, fine what you like. You got to finish with the mud. Yeah, she's running out. She's having a good time. Whatever. She's testing. We don't like fun. Yeah. We don't want to have fun. Hello, fun police. Boo. No, I would, the speed run was great
Starting point is 00:32:24 getting through everything. But just the vibes right now. Big fan of the vibes. I also love the setting of these last few episodes. The cruise setting with the Miami cast is there something campy about it. It just hits that Miami vibe really well. It's so interesting because like I said last
Starting point is 00:32:40 week we went through the roller coaster that was we're going to be on richard branson's yacht to oh it's a fucking commercial cruise to oh they get like the entire top half in this suite and it's like all right yeah it's kind of weird that they're going to breakfast and lunch and whatever and there's all these random people around but then they go to the spa and it seems like they have the entire spot of themselves and they just get to walk walk around and do whatever so it kind of bounces back and forth and i really enjoy it like you said it's very campy yeah i i've really been liking the setting but while they're all sitting there, you know, we get some side conversations, and the only important one, because I don't want to talk about the foot massages, um, that's no shot on anybody.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I just don't like feet, but with their hands, Gertie and Adriana are talking. And, um, Gertie obviously has been going through a lot with her cancer battle, but amidst all of that in the aftermath, she's starting to find out that there's some more trauma there from her childhood that she hasn't addressed. And Russell, got to be Russell. He's the fucking man. Russell's noticed it pointed it out to her like, hey, it seems like you're struggling with some other things. Let's get ahead of this. Love that. Love those two. Gertie and Russell for life. But she agreed to go see
Starting point is 00:33:46 a therapist. And you can tell by her confessional, by her energy, like, this is something that's unnerving to her. And it is for a lot of people. I remember the first time I went to therapy. I was fucking terrified. It was one of the best things ever did. But you know that feeling. You're about to bear your soul and you're like,
Starting point is 00:34:02 I don't know you. I don't feel comfortable. Who are you? Yeah, what's your name? But it's it's it's cool to watch you know and that's something i've always loved about gerty is her transparency in her journey with everything with the cancer battle with the emotional trauma that came with it all of the stuff you know all the way to to shaving her head after chemo and radiation like she's just always been on the up and up with everything she's going through which is part of the reason that we love her so much but before we get to that scene we have one more scene on the boat
Starting point is 00:34:32 and that's stephanie and alexia and this has been a long time coming to have this conversation And it's been attempted multiple times. Again, they butt heads right out of the gate almost every single time. And that starts to happen here a little bit. But then it starts to just give like Alexia gives her enough space to give her side of the story. To at least talk, which is the first time that we've seen that. We've only seen them cutting each other off. And then as soon as one person cuts the other person off, then you start playing the blame game.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Oh, you never let me talk. you never let me talk i need to finish oh i'm not allowed to talk it turns into that and it's turned into that the first six or seven times that we've had this conversation so it is nice to at least let stephanie get her entire side out and then see what alexia has to say at the end of it it was one of those situations where maybe this would have transpired a little differently in front of the group because alexia would want to posture a little bit like oh no no we're not you don't talk to me like that you're not going to be able to get your side out because i'm the alpha here they didn't have an alpha off they actually had a real conversation which apparently works it does it's just
Starting point is 00:35:43 the content of the conversation was interesting because you know stephani gives her side i can kind of see where she's coming from i also see where alexia and marisol are coming from that would irritate the shit out of me and i would be like i'm not fucking going like you i'm going i'm going to go walk around we talked about this fully get those vibes yeah 100 i know it is really funny because originally when they said you're dangling the carrot of your private jet we We're like, she's not really. She's just trying to figure out who's going. And then she did.
Starting point is 00:36:09 By the end of that trip to Spain, I'm like, no, she's fucking dangling that car. She's dangling all the carrots. And she's going to kick you off the plane in the middle of the flight. Yeah. And I like 20 minute flight, but you've got 10 minutes to figure this one out. Yep. And I do believe that would have happened if you got her in the wrong mood. And yeah, we talked about it when it happened.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Like, because you and I are always like zero drama for the last fucking 20 years. So we were like, if this was us, we'd be like, fuck this, dude. Let's just go walk around Sevilla for a while. Like, I'm not going on my fucking play. For sure. I had no problem with Alexia Marisol staying back. No. Also, it paints a different picture of the other side of things, which we really haven't done a
Starting point is 00:36:46 whole lot with when it comes to Julia. Julia is pining for their just friendship. She wants to be the Trace Amigas, and she's not. She's simply not. And we've known that the whole time that it's just going to crash and burn at some point. This is case A. We're looking at these two spending time instead of doing something that's important to Julia.
Starting point is 00:37:04 They don't care. They choose each other every single thing. time 10 out of 10 times they're always going to choose each other here you go and julia tries to spin it so it just kind of creates a different narrative that we get to look at julia and be like you are so ignorant you're delusion yeah yeah exactly and i'm still curious when that fallout's going to happen since we're getting closer to the end but during the volvo fall experience event discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design that leaves plenty of room for autumn adventures and see for yourself how Volvo's legendary safety brings peace of mind to every crisp morning commute.
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Starting point is 00:38:33 adapted directly for audio for the very first time fear i have to make them afraid he's got a motorcycle get after him or have you shot you mean blow up the building from this moment on none of you are safe new episodes every wednesday wherever you get your podcasts in this moment while they're both talking you know like i said you get stepney's side she's saying i thought we were cool because we're kind of leaving together that night we're all kind of shit talking together and i agree like you know i can see where she got that from but she clearly didn't read the room when marasol sitting across the table like rolling her eyes at the seating chart and shit like that so that was lost in translation but she gets enough out to where alexia can at least see where she's coming
Starting point is 00:39:24 from and you know she even doesn't give in she says well we do think you're bossy but she says it in a way that's not antagonistic enough to like start some more shit And then Alexi gets her side. She's like, look, we thought we'd be stranded. And then we get a curveball. And this is where she throws Marisol under an actual bus. Yep. Because then she brings up and then he went to lunch with Adriana.
Starting point is 00:39:47 And that bugged Marisol. That's a totally different layer to this entire onion, if you will, that we didn't know about. And I was surprised that that would be a reason because, one, they've been getting along fairly well. Adrian and Marisle hasn't been an issue since the yacht parties way back. And two, you know, I do agree like you're going to penalize me for having a friend that you don't like. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense because plenty of these women are friends with Adriana and you don't have an issue with them. But I do it. And that's going to that's going to keep you off of my PJ.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Like what's going to? Yeah, that doesn't really make a ton of sense because up until now what we thought was Adriana really, really wants to be friends with Marisol and Alexia, really wants to be accepted by them and is hurt that she's not. And that's why she just kind of lashes out here and there. But on the other side, we always thought that Marisol just looked at Adriana as like an annoying nat. Like, go away.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I don't care about you. Go do your thing. As long as you're not near me and annoying me, I really could not care less. But come to see this, hearing it from Alexia, it seems like there's deeper issues where she just really doesn't like Adriana. And maybe it does go back to that yacht party.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Because she was so mean to Marisol. She was incredibly rude, yes, absolutely. And maybe she's holding that against her. But I think we've seen a lot of that like every season. So there might be some deep rooted issues that Marisol is just not talking about. She's not verbalizing anything. So maybe it comes down to that. But the fact that Alexia said this to Stephanie, who has shown us that she will go to the other end.
Starting point is 00:41:26 She will go to Adriana and start talking about things because she has an issue. It's very interesting. So I do think it kind of paints the whole, and Stephanie missed it because Stephanie's really just zoned in on I need to make good with Alexia. As long as I'm friends with Alexia, I'm fine. She completely missed the fact that Marisol is the one who's like, no, absolutely not. And maybe she didn't see it at all because she was so zeroed in on Alexia. Well, yeah, because she's louder. Yeah, and that's all it is.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It's like, if I get good with Alexia, we're good. So sitting here and talking about how I thought we were fun, we were showing. shit talking. Marisol wasn't. Marisol was against it the whole time. So Marisol got an idea of who you are. That's where the real issue is. So I do think and I don't see a world in which Stephanie can really win
Starting point is 00:42:12 over Marisol, but I do think that it can get to a point where Marisol is like, okay. If Marisle can be like whatever with Adriana, she can definitely do that. I think she can do it with anyone, honestly. Yeah. And I think that, you know, seeing these two compare each other to their
Starting point is 00:42:28 sisters and find this like weird bond and abandonment i didn't even know alexia had a sister nobody did that was news to a lot of people and it's interesting that they found this weird connection and you know it's not that alexia was shit talking marasol but you see a crack here and i don't think it's going to turn into any i don't see any world in which they're separated but it is interesting to watch this one play out because it's not what i expected but let's get to the scarlet dinner Okay. Let's get to the Scarlet Dinner. What happens at the Scarlet?
Starting point is 00:43:02 Is there anything important at the Scarlet dinner? Really just, I mean, it's a celebration. It's a celebration essentially because it seems like Alexi and Stephanie are good. Stephanie kind of holds on to the fact that she now realizes that Marisol's the issue. She doesn't want to blow it up, which I think is a pretty good move. I appreciate that. It's Marisol's trip. She's friends with Richard.
Starting point is 00:43:25 This could, it could in turn, screw Stephanie. over if she starts shit right now. So she holds on to it and she wants to get some more information. So that's, I think, a really good move. The rest of it is just kind of funny because you can see the relief on their faces when Larsa and Lisa all walk in and they're all happy and they're fun and they're good. It's like, wow, there's a married couple coming in and they just got married and everybody's happy.
Starting point is 00:43:46 In reality, they're just relieved. We don't have to deal with this shit anymore at least for a little while. Give it a month or so. Things are going to change, of course, again. But I want to talk about Cakegate because who do you think? I think, I think it's Marisol. I think it's very clear. I do too now, like now that she's behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:44:04 And it was what, it was 32 times two minus five. Yep, which is stupid. Crazy. That's crazy. Just leave the, leave the age off the cake. Happy birthday, Adriana. Boom, done. But no, we get some.
Starting point is 00:44:17 That was a shady move. It must. The only person I can think is Marisol. Yeah, I think so. And I think that it's a weird shot to take, especially considering, like, even if you don't like her, Adrian was pretty bummed out. Like, it's sad to, and that's what anytime she gets really sad.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I, it's just sad, bro. Like, you just feel for her. And the cake move was shady. But the other thing that happened here is this whole trip was organized to once again, we, we went to Spain. And now we're going on a cruise to separate Alexia from Todd, only to find out this was all for not because they point like three days ago. Yeah. And when they call it a booty. call, Alexia, of course, anytime you say, if you even say, she gets defensive.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yep. And she's like, well, it's not a booty call. It's like, so that's where we're at then. And you and I knew this. Exactly what? Two months ago? Like, it's not rocket science. But it's definitely, I think, sinking in and you get proof of that later when they sit
Starting point is 00:45:16 down at dinner back in Miami that Marisol lost. And I don't think she likes that at all. I think she's very aggravated by this whole setup and scenario. And the last thing I'll say, just on the same. Stephanie front is that this was the correct move because by not bringing it up at the table, mainly because it would not have resonated with the group. Everyone's viving. And if you come back with some bad energy after everyone's made up and then you start some
Starting point is 00:45:42 new shit with Marisol, everyone at the table is going to roll their eyes and you're going to be Stephanie on the outs again. So I thought you're going to be on the outs. And she hasn't done enough this season. Like we've given her some appreciation just for at least like furthering storylines and getting involved in and getting in the mix up and whatever. But she hasn't really done a whole lot on the ally front because her friend is Larsa. Larsa is pretty much useless in these situations because she's probably taking a selfie
Starting point is 00:46:09 at the end of the table anyway with her big flash light. And the only real person that might have your back in this situation would be Adriana, which is not really a good call for a newbie. Adriana is a bit of a wild card. And she's also down and out. I mean, she's sad about her birthday. She's sad about getting older. she's not getting the sympathy from the rest of the group.
Starting point is 00:46:27 So she's not going to be able to help you right now. So I think it's a pretty good move by her. And I would be willing to say that she's probably going to start doing that ally stuff with, obviously we see at the end of the episode with Adriana. Maybe she starts reaching out to Gertie. She kind of like feels the temperature on Kiki, those types of things, to try to figure out where she can go with this. And if she can get support before she goes after Marisol,
Starting point is 00:46:48 because I think she's realizing now Marisol's got a handle on this whole thing and she does not. Yep. it's going to be interesting to watch this one play out. But let's get to Garty and Russell. And they're headed to her first therapy session. We're back in Miami. And I'm reserving judgment for this therapist. We usually have opinions on TV.
Starting point is 00:47:08 No, this therapist I thought was actually fine. I thought she did a good job. I thought she did a good job. Because we didn't hear shit from the therapist. We just heard her, heard her. We watched her listen. That's all she did really.
Starting point is 00:47:18 We didn't hear her enable. Yeah, we didn't hear her enable. We didn't hear her, you know, spew some nonsense, she just kind of let Gertie talk, which from my experience with therapy is how it works. This is your first session. Tell me all about you. Why do you think you need to be here? All right. I'm going to sit here and I'm going to listen. So it seemed legit. I mean, as far as therapists go on Bravo shifts. Yeah. It was a much better performance than we have seen from other ones that just completely fold and say, you know what, you're the victim
Starting point is 00:47:47 instead of diving into stuff or just going along with whatever's happening. She lets her talk and start to get into some of Garty's past, which is wild, you know, some of her first trauma she discusses is her and her brother were taken to the U.S. by her parents and then dropped off at a house that were allegedly their relatives. And they were there for three months, and she's like, I can count on one hand the amount of times you're outside. It was pretty much like a prison. So that's where it all started out. And then I don't want to mispronounce her name. I believe it's Alicia. Yeah. I probably messed it up a little bit, not intentional. that was her first name and she ended up going with her middle name because she would bring that up to people like what's your name she would say it and they would make fun of it right out of the gate they'd make fun of her clothes they'd make fun of pretty much everything about her meanwhile she doesn't speak english so she's trying to navigate this whole thing she feels abandoned like she's dealing with a lot of shit as a child and i love the spin you know the fact that she can take it and go but you know what that's where gertie brand was started and like that's become such a big thing that's who i am blah blah blah and the therapist
Starting point is 00:48:53 pissed. I was like, oh, good call. She's like, well, it sounds like you buried, uh, sounds like you buried somebody else when Gertie came out. And I was like, hell yeah. That's a steep shit. Stute point. It was, it was good. I mean, I, I always appreciate it. It is funny too, because and we were talking before we even started recording, we're like therapy sessions, unless it's something crazy like what Tamara's going through, if it's a legitimate therapy session or a legitimate it like life coach which you know we still have yet to see any of those hashtag like um there's not a whole lot that we can say because it's like okay we don't know you personally uh we can talk about what was discussed but how how are we going to recap a therapy session
Starting point is 00:49:39 like you want to dig deeper on the therapy set yeah should we speculate under trauma it should dumb and dumber over here on the mic start to talk about gerty's trauma like probably We always say the therapy sessions on Bravo are fucking ridiculous. But it's because we're used to the things like what Tamara's going through with her psychotherapist, where we can actually analyze that because it's so ludicrous that there's so many things to point out and so many things to make fun of, essentially. With this, it's like, okay, this was actually kind of legit. So good for Gertie. Keep moving for Gertie.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Great first step. Yeah. And she will do the work because that's the kind of person she is. But it was just, I appreciate this. I like when we get these. It just humanizes. you know and it's relatable we've all been there or if you haven't if you haven't give it a shot therapy rocks helps you out a lot but let's finish this bad boy up we get alexia frankie marisol and
Starting point is 00:50:31 Steve I love Frankie I love Frankie so much Frankie and Steve in the same scene oh my god just great dudes I honestly I think Frankie should have his own show I would watch the shit out of that he's incredible the fact that he walked in and within two seconds Marisol you're drunk and I've had enough. She's like, I'm not drunk. He's like, oh, please. I'm like, hell, yeah. Frankie, get her.
Starting point is 00:50:56 One of my favorite things of all time is when Frankie and Alexi are together. And Frankie's just being a little bit condescending or a little bit shady. And he points something out because he's so point blank. And he just says something. And Alexi is like, yeah, Frankie, is that okay? All right. Yeah, Marisol, you're being a little too much. She will agree with Frankie until the end of the world.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And I love that about her. I will, too. Yeah. But I love that about her because you've seen her. If anybody else on the cast, anybody else that we've come across on the show says something even like moderately shady towards any of her friends, she'll step in and she'll guard dog. Like, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's take that back with Frankie. It's like, all right, Marisol, you heard the guy. Like, this is what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Frankie doesn't lie. And like, he's just, he's the man, dude. His style is awesome. And he's always nice to everybody. Like, I love Frankie. And I would 100% watch a Frankie show. That would be awesome. But obviously we got to get into the Todd talk and that's what's great about Marisol.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Again, she's not going to pull punches here. You know, she's going to let her know how she feels about the whole thing. And Alexia, one of her flaws is the ability to read a room or like, you know, test it, test the waters a little bit because she just assumes that people are going to go along with things. And she's like, yeah, soon we're all going to be going out together again. It's like, oh, great. And Steve doesn't like Todd. So that's an issue. And Steve's a good dude.
Starting point is 00:52:21 And Marisol's like, oh, that's a little scary. It's a little exciting, but it's scary. Alexei's like, same, but it feels good. And you can tell she's starting to get a little irritated that Marisol's not excited about that whole thing. And Alexia's claim is that, well, I got past all that hurt. You know, it was painful for Todd, too. It's like once you get to the point that you are defending Todd to the point that his feelings matter to,
Starting point is 00:52:46 after he abandoned Frankie in a fucking apartment like that's a problem so i want to i i want to talk about something here okay i'm i'm getting the vibe and look this is no no excuse for todd because i think he's a shitty person anyway same zhe's i'm getting the vibe that alexia may have embellished a lot on what was going on with todd i'm even starting to question i'm starting to question that he even left frankie in the apartment i don't know for sure but i get the vibe from Alexia that she's doing the I was hurt things were going on I embellished a lot about how bad Todd was to get sympathy for my friends and then we had that whole sit down lunch with her and her friends where she was just bashing the guy and bringing up all this shit and again Todd's a bad
Starting point is 00:53:33 person so I really don't care but I'm getting the vibe that she was just throwing shit out there talking about how bad he is and talking shit on him because she was in a world of hurt and now that she's like slowly maybe not that slowly going back to Todd she's having that oh shit moment like oh fuck like I said a lot about Todd that I can't really take back my friends hate them and I'm you know what instead of me just trying to warm up to them I'm just going to tell them everything's okay everything's fine we've worked through it that that's really the vibe that I get and I don't really know and I know we can talk to I think at some point we do talk to Peter which you know Peter's not a good dude either but we do get to talk to Peter about what he feels about Todd
Starting point is 00:54:12 I know he doesn't like Todd, but again, for whatever reason, I keep coming back to last season with Frankie and Peter and Alexia, when Todd was sitting there and Peter was talking about like smoking weed and Frankie smoking weed and Todd was like, fuck, no, absolutely not. Like, why would you do that to your, and he was abrasive and he was insane, but he was right. So it's like he does care about Frankie and I, as bad as a person as he is, it seemed outlandish at the time that he would do that to Frankie while Frankie's in the apartment. so I do wonder if Alexia just embellished to some crazy extent to get that sympathy from her friends and to say how bad Todd was so that she could just kind of go off and now that she's getting back she's like I kind of said a lot of shit I can't take back let's just ignore it and just say everything's okay I don't know why I'm getting that vibe right now I agree with you that she's having the oh shit moment that she divules too much information and it's too hard to backtrack it I don't think
Starting point is 00:55:09 that she lied. I think she did. I think that there's, and again, it's not a lie. I mean, I do think if the Frankie thing didn't happen exactly as it was,
Starting point is 00:55:20 like I could, I could see a world in which Frankie was doing something. He was downstairs. He was out like getting coffee or something with Peter or whatever it may have been. He was quote unquote at home, but he was doing stuff outside. And that's when Todd left. And then it turned into Frankie was sitting in the other room right there while Todd was
Starting point is 00:55:39 packing. you know what I mean like it could have embellished to that point and now she's just like oh yeah we're just going to ignore all of that because it just seems like she's such a good mom that I agree with that I think she would ever forgive somebody that would do that to Frankie downright unless that's not exactly how it happens I see like I see there's a path there where I'm like yeah again Todd sucks so fucking slimy that like I can believe that he did all of that I can believe he hit out in a gym and my delexia like take on the full brunt of his actions if it's if it's proven differently fine it's not like i can't see that happening it's
Starting point is 00:56:16 just i'm getting a weird little radar where i'm like i don't know if that's how that happens well marisol clearly not happy with the whole thing and makes a very interesting comment she's like oh man we're going to end up at the bottom of the miami river i was like oh and alex did not like that at all so you're seeing some more divides here and the stephanie things coming up in an interesting time where if Marisol pisses off Alexia, I could see Alexia clapping back via Stephanie in that whole situation.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And you might see, like I said, I, there is no world in which those two aren't joined at the hip. But I do think we would see some turmoil, potentially at the reunion over all of this. But the last thing is Adrian and Stephanie setting up for some Christmas party. Not a whole lot happens. It's only
Starting point is 00:57:00 and the 10 person band in this small space is so funny to me. I can't wait to see that set It's just such an Adriana thing. It's going to work out perfectly. Let's be honest. It is one thing that she understands. She does understand showmanship.
Starting point is 00:57:14 So if it's not going to, if it wasn't going to work, Adriana probably wouldn't be pushing it, but I think it's going to work perfectly. I'm excited. I'm going to be singing Christmas stuff. Oh my God. I hope Asher's there. That'd be incredible.
Starting point is 00:57:23 What a cameo that would be. But the one thing to note here, the important thing to note is that finally, Adrian has been waiting for this for decades. finally somebody else has clocked that Marisol's the mastermind and you finally see first of all
Starting point is 00:57:43 Adrona's outfit was just I loved it. It was great walking in there. I was like she's definitely going through something right now but that's okay we're happy for her but uh watching her literally come out of whatever
Starting point is 00:57:58 the cloud she's been shrouded in in this exact you see like it's almost like the Grinch smile like she just starts to like slowly smile she's like oh my god you know i have a teammate like we can go after marisol finally it was i i wasn't sure how that was going to play out to be honest because i do think that weirdly adriana does like being alone because she does get that sympathy from other people when something happens she doesn't like being alone but she likes the sympathy yes she does love the sympathy and i do think that the the cruise uh stint that they
Starting point is 00:58:31 had may have changed things a little bit where she wasn't getting any sympathy So now she's desperate for it. So the fact that Stephanie's sitting down for her trying to get dirt on Marisol and talking shit on somebody. And I think that Adriana probably has an idea that the cake came out because of what Marisol did. So I think there could be something here. I just, I love Adriana this season. I think she's done great. Dude, she's pieced together a whole fucking season.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I just, I get for Stephanie and not that I really care that much, but for Stephanie, I get a little nervous because she's such a wild card that she might. actually use Stephanie as like a sacrificial lamb be like I can see this is what she's doing like I can see Adriana pulling Marisol aside and being like well because what's the end goal this is what's going on what's the end goal is that is Adriana's end goal is to be accepted by the group that's that's what all she wants is to be besties with Marisol and Alexia and if the opportunity arises she'll take that chance and Stephanie doesn't know that and that's where she's going to shoot herself in the foot because Marisol will or sorry Adriana will flip if you're
Starting point is 00:59:34 she sees a path forward with those two so that's going to be interesting as well and that's why the season's so good we have all of these layers all these things to unpack we don't know which way it's going to go because we've gotten too many conflicting things coming up here at the end of the season after watching totally different things happen all season so setting up for a solid reunion setting up for a solid finale i next week might be it honestly it's either next week or the following they didn't say season finale at the no so we got like at least probably two episodes yeah and then And then the three reunions, which is a bummer. But bravo, ladies, well done.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Let's get some questions. All right. We've got a Stephanie hater right away from Mortimer underscore new. Fresh creed juice for 2,000 plus guests at sea. Dive off and get on a yacht. I hope you get hives. Jesus. People say we're mean.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I know, right? And the picture that we posted was Julia with Cornrose, and Jane DeGroote says, why is she a housewife? We don't know. And I don't know what it's going to look like that season. A lot of Julia, a lot of Julia questions here. Julia's hair choices have been a heinous as her behavior this season from Lauren R. die. How about the fact that if you're still listening, do us a favor and go give us a five-star review on Apple
Starting point is 01:00:55 because we've gotten some backlash for our OC hate watch, which is going to happen without fail, but one person had the audacity to say that the Julia hate is too much. Oh, yeah, that was crazy. Like she, even this season aside entirely, what she and Martina are doing right now on social media is
Starting point is 01:01:15 fucking heinous. So if you want to be a Julia Stan, like, kick rocks. That's ridiculous. That's funny. Corey Blakey, double, so what's going on with Martina's wife's hair? Yeah. from Josie T. Bear, do we think that Julia made the cake since she kind of organized the birthday?
Starting point is 01:01:38 I do think so. I think Marisol is probably the one behind it, but Julia being behind it would not surprise me whatsoever because she was the one who organized it. And she is also, there might be some things going on behind the scenes because I do think that Marisol feels a lot stronger towards Adrian than we thought, obviously. But the ageism that happened on the yachts prior to this, a few. episodes go may have struck a chord maybe they've been talking about it and this is julia's way to uh to prove to marisol like hey i'm with you guys not her yeah that's actually a good way
Starting point is 01:02:11 to look at it uh see what you did here shooter is you appointed everybody at julia and so now all of our questions are julia and hair related which is fine uh that's not my fault so we'll go with one more two more and let's see if i can find one that's a little different how is from j lauren olison how is it julia keeps finding worse hairstyles to do every episode we don't know but we can't wait to see what next week the one the one last week was so bad she looked like oh yeah that was like the powdered wig look yeah and then we'll end with this one this little uh personal question from tina gisler what are the bros favorite podcasts uh i listen still a lot of sports
Starting point is 01:03:00 podcasts for the most part as far as like film and TV goes the SUP podcast is really good that's another Bravo one because they just goof around and dick around and they've been around forever they started doing
Starting point is 01:03:13 banner pump rules back of the day but now they do the valley and they're really funny so I would recommend them otherwise it's really just a lot of sports podcasts for me mine are comedy bang bang
Starting point is 01:03:28 one of my favorites It's Scott Ockerman, phenomenal podcast, been around forever. It was like one of the OG podcasts when everything got big back in the day. Before they knew them, I guess where. Exactly. Like, you actually used to be a radio show in L.A. And then when podcasting started, they switched over to that. But comedy bang, bang, bang, how did this get made?
Starting point is 01:03:46 It's another one that's in the same, like, realm as comedy bang, bang. And then my last, like, probably most listened to is StarTalk with Neil deGrasdison, because I love it. Ah, yeah. Hell yeah. It's a great one. He's very good at dumbing down information. Him and Brian Cox, who is a quantum physicist, and he does a good job of relaying information as well.
Starting point is 01:04:10 His is called The Big Think. That's a fantastic one. If you're interested in space and astrophysics and stuff, yes, Logan Roy, from succession. No, Brian Cox, who is a British quantum physicist, like I said. he's great he he he's like his quantum physics is fucking so fascinating it's bizarre and completely contradicts everything we know about the universe but anyway um that's all i got you got anything else nope all good here well that's our show bro's got to go the old west is an iconic period of american history
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