Bros & Shows - Did Phaedra Set Up Angela? (RHOA Season Finale Full Recap)

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

What's up Bros? We made it to the end of an up and down season. There are definitely some positives for this franchise moving forward. Overall, the newbies minus Brit did a solid job. Angela was a delight and Kelli did good as well. If they can add some missing pieces, this franchise may very well be just fine. In this episode, Angela opens up about her houses for sale. She also addresses the man that gave the cheating toast. Apparently she and Drew sat down with him and got the tea. Shamea has a song showcase for her new music, and at the end, gets into it with Brit. Kelli and Brit are completely on the outs. Things get interesting when Angela invites the man that dropped the cheating bomb at Kellis event. She probably should have told Charles but thats neither here nor there. It turns out that Phaedra is the one that gave Marcus money and the info to say what he said. The group is skeptical but we are not 100% sure exactly who the culprit is... Maybe we'll find out at the reunion? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Golden Nuggetcassino.com for details. Please play responsibly. Well, I would say that the season has come to an end, but we have confirmation that we have not one, not two, but three reunion episodes. So saddle up, partner. I don't know what the hell they're doing to us. What do they think they're doing with this? And the other part is, there's a week in between.

We have a bye week because of Fourth of July. So now we're not even going to start for another two weeks, and then we've got three weeks after that we're going to be in like the end of july by the time atlanta's finally over that's crazy crazy i'm your co-host and shows i gotta have me my pros and shows bros and shows i got to have me my bros and shows good morning everybody and welcome back to another episode of pros and shows i am your co-host steel russell joined as always by the one-known the georgia peach m'geatch what's up dude not a whole lot uh look i mean we've had a lot to say about this season how it kind of just took a turn it started sliding for a bit they ended on a pretty good note i'm not even

really going to worry about the the legitimacy of everything it was just kind of fun it was just fun to just be in the mix of something you know just to see some people slugging it out at the end and see some teams forming that's what i wanted uh i'm not going to say it's too little too late because I would sound ungrateful. And who wants an ungrateful Maguder on a on a Tuesday morning, you know? Not this guy. I'll tell you that right now.

But I agree. I think they ended on a fun episode. Sure. If we want to get over analytical on it, is there some fishy things going on? Yes. Are we falling for all of it? No.

But as Shooter said, let's not, let's not do that with this one. They ended on a decent note. It was a weird season. They actually started off okay. But you see it gets a very specific moment where you can tell the fallout from the Kenya situation and the scramble

to fix it, that's what we were left with. So I think seeing this last episode, and obviously everyone's still talking about Nini coming back potentially, and that being like the big setup, I think there's enough here. I think they're going to be okay. I think they come in next year without some major controversy and see what they have, without Britt there as well to try to steal the limelight every episode. I think that we're going to be all right. I obviously got to put some things together, but I'm cautiously optimistic. Yeah, we're in a weird place because I agree with you. I think that they can move a couple of pieces around and I'm not even going to put all my eggs in one basket and assume that Nini's coming back just because people keep theorizing that it's going to

happen. If she doesn't, I don't think we're going to be good. We have the capability of being all right. And that kind of scares me a little bit that we're going to have a ceiling of all right and somewhat entertaining. I don't want that, especially for Atlanta. I feel like we've kind of gotten to a place with Housewife shows, not just us, but the people that watch Housewife shows, where there are arguably two really good franchises in Miami and Salt Lake City. That's it. OC had a comeback last year. Let's see if they can maintain it. I'm not going to put them in the same tier as the other two. But the rest of the Housewife franchises are getting to the point where they're so boring and it's the same thing that we're actually cheering for.

I hope we're all right. I hope we're okay. And I don't really want that. I want to set the standard a little higher and say, we need to get back to good. And if you have something like an Atlanta, you have something like Beverly Hills, I don't want to cheer for all right.

I don't want to say, oh, well, you know, hopefully Nini comes back and tries to save it. That's a lot of pressure to put on one person. And if she doesn't perform, then what? What do we have? We have an all right season.

I don't want another all right season. It's Atlanta. I want it good. I want good shit. I think we're going to, I'm, I'm a little more optimistic than you because there were moments this season that I really enjoyed. There's new people on the show that I really enjoy. Angela is great.

Kelly is great. I think the biggest issue with this season, honestly, was so much of the focal point being on Brit in multiple, like, segments. We had multiple episodes where it was Brit centric. And at the end of the day, nobody cares about Brit. Yeah. So it just all felt kind of flat, you know, and I think that was. I think we're also in disagreement because I don't, I don't think Shimea can carry a season.

We thought, well, I agree. You're on the other side. Yeah, I think that she is a wonderful supporting cast member, wonderful, amazing. Like, I would be upset if she comes back as a friend of. If she's a friend of and she's still in the show, I'm okay with respect than that. She did the beginning, you got to give her credit for the first half, because she did do great. And I don't think she should be demoted. I will say this, and you saw it happen with the Porsche stuff,

whoever's leading the season, whoever's leading the charge, needs to be able to stand alone. And with Shemia, you saw with the Porsche stuff, she started to gravitate towards Porsche and not be that just solo character that is kind of forging ahead, like Elisa Barlow, for example, something like that. I'm not saying that she was bad. I think she was great.

I do not think she should be demoted at all. But I just think that this might need to be one of those similar to Miami where there is not really one standout. Like there's not one person leading that charge is more of an ensemble cast and it works really well. I almost think that should be the direction of Atlanta. Let's not put all the emphasis on one person. Let's really dive into what everybody's doing because I think they're interesting enough on their own. They can be. That's the thing.

they really can be it's whether or not they want to show up and that was a big gripe for this season where you had people like Porsche and i know drew's going through a lot and drew kind of did a 180 for me like halfway through the season she started showing up a little bit more but when you have a heavy hitter like a portia who's just mailing it in for the majority of the season it was tough then shows up a little bit here and there and obviously you know at the end of the season she has to she has to mourn the death of her cousin which is fucking awful i'm not going to hold that against her of course but in the beginning of the season we've wanted so much more from poor and she was just mailing it in. It's not even no one. We expected so much. We expected. That's a really good way to put it. There are so many people on this cast that we can say that for. And the fact that a newbie and Angela is the one that we look at and say,

thank you for this season. Yeah. Because without you, this would have been a clunker of all clunkers. We may have not made it through the season, to be honest. We would have been looking at like episode 7, 8, 9 and Brits running the show. And Shamea is kind of taken a back seat because of the Porsche stuff. Porsche is still mailing it in, Drew's going through a divorce, all of those things kind of coming all together without Angela and, you know, Fager coming back in the last two or three episodes,

which I like Fager actually towards the end. I really enjoyed her. She was fine. She was fine in this episode, but before then I was questioning why she was even there. But without Angela, we don't have anything to talk about. So it would have been a really bad season and that just goes to show you how good of a season Angela had. And the fact that she was considering jumping out after like three or four episodes is crazy. I mean, she really has a deck for this. she does she's good at this like she and she's tough dude she's tough as nails and that's the best part especially with the franchise like atlanta where it's historically one of the better franchises but the ladies are tough like they really know how to hold their own which is why we

love it so much or loved it so much so to see her come in and be confident and strong stand on her own two feet was impressive so you're right let's give all the credit to angela for a great first year i also want to make sure we highlight kelly i thought she did a great job so It's those reasons that I'm optimistic. Those are the reasons where I'm like, okay, we have two strong newbies. That's not common. Usually we have one. We don't get a sophomore slump.

That's all we want to pray for right now. You're right. You are correct. But let's jump into this episode. We start out with Portia and Fadra and Portia's sister and they're going through the Londi stuff, which again is super sad. I do believe Londi made multiple appearances on this show. And it seems like everyone knew her.

She was one of those people where it's just like, oh, yeah. Everyone knows Londy. Everyone loves Londy. It seems like one of those cities where like, you know. Big city, small town feel. You know the family of your friends. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you know, you know your friends, cousins from afar.

You may have met them once or twice. But when they talk about Londy, when they talk about really any of their family members, you can tell that there's like a lasting impact. There's a lasting friendship there. And Atlanta just seems like one of those cities where that happens all the time. Yeah, that big city, small town feel somehow. Philly's similar to that, actually. It's Philly everyone knows everyone somehow.

That's true. But Fadra, of course, is taking the lead on this because she runs the funeral business, so she's helping out with everything. And it's nice to see that, and that's something I can credit this cast with always. And it's impressive. No matter what's happening, no matter what, if some serious shit goes off, everybody supports. And I like that. We need that.

That's good. We always need that. It's, I dare I say, sisterhood, that's what we need. It is. It is genuine, authentic, sisterhood. Sisterhood where it is so willy-nilly these days. It's so fucking overused at this point with every show. But when I think of sisterhood, I think of you can come together for, you know, the major

points. You can come together when somebody's going through something as long as you weren't the one who caused it. But sometimes I need you to cause it. You know what I mean? Real sisters fight all the time and they love each other and they still come back together. That's sisterhood. Not this fake bullshit that we've been seeing on the other shows.

But yeah, go on. Beverly Hills, the fucking sister. fucking hell they hate each other like yeah the second that was done they started calling each other the c word so yeah yeah whatever but angela goes to see her therapist dr wendy who they've been seeing for a while charles goes to see her as well and i like that she's open with everything and i've appreciated that from her the whole season like talking about marrying charles she's like you know he's handsome he's famous he has money so you hear the rumors people are gunning for him like that's just how it is when you have that kind of stature.

And I love that she's, I don't love that she is in financial trouble with the houses, but I love that she is able to be like, yeah, I'm kind of fucked right now because I put all of my money into this. Charles told me not to do it. I did it anyway with his support. Now he doesn't want to put any more money into it.

And I'm kind of freaking out because I need to do something with these houses. I don't know how many housewives, especially new housewives would be that honest about their financial situation most of the time they're doing what britt's doing and fake shopping for fake things yeah that's that's become the new dorm on these shows where they just kind of grin and bear it and just act like everything's completely fine and then in the off season or even during the season while we're watching this you find out oh their brick and mortar store shut down and then they spin it and say well we're online exclusive now it just didn't make any sense we're making so much money online that we had to close

that like that doesn't make any sense to me that does sure spin it however you want to and this is a part i think that has gotten lost with a lot of housewives is the real factor we want to see this we want to know what's going on because by the way this helps you in the long run if you're going to sit there and you're going to show a scene with your therapist talking about the fact that you're going through all this you've got money issues you know she's not broke she's not poor she's not at risk of losing everything she just sunk a ton of money into five different houses at one time which was pretty fucking crazy. Now she's learning her lesson.

And we find out, you know, at the end, obviously that three of them sold, but she lost two of them. So, you know, whatever. I'm sure she'll buy a wash at the end of the day. I'm sure it was a wash. But you know what? It's a learning experience. And the fact that she's able to sit there and say that on camera means that people can't

bring it up like Fager did at the end. We can't bring it up at the reunion and say, well, what's going on with this? You can't have some asshole like Brit, who's not even at the reunion, pull out a manila folder and start talking about your foreclosures. You're getting ahead of it. This is what you need to do. do in life and on these housewife shows because they will dig and dig and dig until they find something that doesn't even affect them but they know that they can use it

against you so get ahead of it it's a smart move and if they don't then the bravo fandom will and they'll dig it up and post it online as as we've seen a million times it might seem like we're glazing angela right now we are because she deserves it she's the reason why this season was even watchable so there we go so glaze away sir but they start talking about uh Marcus, who was the gentleman that came up and gave that horrific toast at Kelly's event. And obviously, there's a lot of speculation. Yeah, dude's a dweeb. But there's a lot of speculation around it, obviously, trying to figure out what happened.

But what she's talking to Dr. Wendy about, I think is kind of where you and I landed for the majority of the season, you know, watching her interactions with Charles. It may seem one way. But I think they're good. I think that's just their dynamic. I think Charles does not want to be on TV. I did need him to show up more when she's saying, I love you, like the little things. Like, don't be such a stoic asshole with that stuff. Oh, God, I hope he doesn't hear that.

But I think that they are fine. I think that they love each other. I think that they work well together. And I think that we get, you know, a jaded aspect of it. But at the end of the day, you have this situation once again. And we don't love this. And it seems to be a new theme with Housewives shows is let's attack the marriage. It's like, why?

do we have to go down that path and like with this whole cheating thing yeah i don't understand why we have to go down that path and again if there's more evidence that substantiates what's going on and what people are talking about we'll listen a different situation we'll listen and we'll talk about that but right now all we're hearing are rumors from this douchebag marcus who just inserted himself whether or not he got paid for it is a different situation but i'm not going to take his word for it by any means charles's behavior when it comes to angela is that borderline that I don't really like where it gets to yeah you go do your little project I want nothing to do with it yeah but you're still on camera and every time that you're on camera you just look uncomfortable

and not in like a I'm camera shy way like uh why are we fucking doing this why are you invading my privacy why am I doing any of this get out of my life and that's sort of like uh yeah go have your fun go do your little project I'll be over here doing my man stuff that's where we're kind of getting there's a there's a there's not quite on the other side of it but he is getting close to it. So I hope that that changes. And again, it looks like he's at the reunion anyway. So at least he's showing up in certain situations. And did you not see the clip from the reunion? No, I can't believe he's there. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, dude, he's the one clip. I'm just going to leave you with this nugget. They're going after him. I'm sure it's a conversation about

whether or not he's cheating on Angela. And he goes, why are we coming after me right now? Where are y'all husband's at? I'm the only one who's here. So that was a really good line. He kind of just choked everybody so that was great but he is getting close and i agree with you if we saw maybe they're not a very affectionate couple maybe it's not this or that maybe angel is playing it up a little bit more because she's a little insecure about their how their relationship is going to be portrayed on a show like this when she knows deep down this is just how it is so maybe she's playing it up a little more saying the i love you and he's like what the fuck is this like we never do this why are we doing this like can we stop please i don't know we don't have enough evidence we don't have enough scenes of

the two of them together to really make a statement on like who's right and who's wrong and what we want from them this could just be how they are and that's what you said so yeah i don't know again we're not going to just completely break down a guy's character until we know everything yeah we like to have more evidence before we make and you know us we will go after even charles oakley who we're both scared of we would still if we had the evidence because we don't say what city we're in like it's too late it's too late it is too late but like i think we've Take that shirt and hat off. Ah, shit.

I'll put on like a Pittsburgh hat or something. But yeah, and I- Just tuned into the YouTube because I told you to take your shirt off. Oh, this is on YouTube, right? Hell yeah. Are they taking shirts off? What the hell? We're both just sitting here shirtless.

That would be actually kind of funny. But we start baiting people to go to YouTube. Yeah, that's, we just start using that to get more clicks and views. No. No, we've already told you guys. If we're ever money hurting, we're going to do our. our feet thing because we get a lot of report requests during the volvo fall experience event discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design that leaves plenty of room for autumn adventures and see

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But I think you made a really good point. He is teetering on that line of it's disrespectful a little bit and it's belittling. There's the right demeaning and belittling to what Angela's doing. So I agree. And that is something we need to look out for. I think it says a lot that he showed up to the reunion. That's kind of shocking, actually. Yeah.

Let's keep trucking. We get to Shemia, who's doing a, it's like a singing showcase is what she's calling it. And I'm glad that everyone's there. support and look was the shade funny yeah is this why drew gets in trouble yeah because she but like this is good i like this is where i love

no i know and this is funny but it's also like she acts all the time like i didn't do anything it's like exhibit a like you do and then you deny but it was funny but drew is by no means an incredible singer that like is must see tv the only thing that she's done that i will forever remember is singing at the reunion for ralph

That was fucking hilarious. We got a clip of that. Yeah, we did a clip of that. And look, she is obviously, you know, this is her profession. Shamiya's just getting back into it. So, yeah, throwing a little shade here and there is funny. Just don't go overboard. You're going to get yourself in trouble, Drew, and I can't defend you.

It was close because she walks in and she'll sing, as the resident singer, it's like, oh, here we go. We're teeing it up already. And that's where we got the clip of the reunion song. This music showcase, I got to ask you. What do we, she did one song in the, she went back and did like redid makeup and did everything else and got ready for a second song was yeah i did you imagine being at a concert and being like wow i'm so pumped to see pit bull and he comes

out yeah i chose pit bull and he comes out mr worldwide does a song and then immediately goes back and comes back does another song goes back comes back like it would take forever and you'd probably get like five songs so i don't know if she's going to really go into this you're you're going to figure this one out for me i can't i can't defend well it was more like you know talking backstage she's like yeah well she's like it all comes down to this and it's like you put this show on like this is a you thing we have seen your house lady this is it does it does not all come down to this no and i get that she's saying and just because she has money and all that doesn't mean that she isn't supposed to have hopes and dreams and want to pursue her passion and singing i think that's great

it's just the setup is like okay you put this together to showcase your music i don't think this is like an end-all be-all if this goes poorly then the world's going to end i thought she did fine like i didn't think that it was bad at all like her song was pretty shaky the high note the high note she whiffed on it was a little flat and that's where drew drew starts to speak up in her confessional maybe the microphone should have been off yeah it's like and that's the shit it's like, dude, like, this is going to come up at a reunion. Sure. Sure. She just has to be able to defend herself when she makes comments like that. That's all. Like, when Portia does it in her confessional, she'll just stand on it. She will stand on her comment and she'll have more comments

on top of it. And she might apologize a little bit here or there, but it's through her teeth and she doesn't really mean it. That's fine, because that's her character. When Drew does it, she just kind of shakes it off. Like, I, you know, I was just being shady. I didn't say, I didn't mean anything. No, just stand on it a little bit. I said that out of love. It's like, yeah. Yeah, that's my only point. She's got to do a best. better job of spinning it into like I was giving you advice like come to me I was exactly we've seen this on a lot of housewife shows before you should be coming to me for advice and I was upset that you did oh the merit of nuts yeah dude did you see her DJing and in oh my god she's got to be so

tired I've seen so many I've seen so many fucking clips just of her DJing in random places I'm like jumping off beat like I'm exhausted oh shit was funny as how she looks like he's having fun. I hope we get a lot of that on the Salt Lake City. I do too. I hope it's like a Kyle Cook thing. You need that. Where she's just all in on DJing now. Now that she found out about Seth's other family,

she's just going on the road. She was at like different pride festivals. She was at a couple film festivals and something else. Like she was all over the place. She must have done like five or six shows that I've seen. Dude, I would book DJ MM. Oh my God. I'd book her

before Kyle. I'd definitely book her before Dickhead James Kennedy. Who else is it, DJ on Bravo? I would say she's the number one DJ on Bravo. Yeah. Well done, Meredith. But hell yeah. The ladies all give her her flowers.

It was nice for the most part. Obviously, Drew, a little shady, Brit, who's irrelevant, tries to throw shade at it. But like, what are you doing? So no one cares. They're talking about the Charles Oakley Foundation, which their goal is to feed 100,000 kids. Sounds like a wonderful cause. And there's an event for it.

So everyone's going. And they're talking about donations. And Kelly brings up her Instagram. She's like, oh, I got, I'll put it out to my followers and somebody asks, how many you got? She's like, 150,000. It's like, oh, nice. Britt out of left field.

Yeah, fake ones. They're fake followers. It's like, okay, here we go. I actually kind of liked this because that was, Brit is crazy enough to be stalking Kelly's profile and be like, where those 80,000 followers come from overnight. Yeah, and Kelly's. We were friends. You posted with me.

I saw it. two days later 150 where they come from huh and look that is a big epidemic when it comes to these shows it's a big epidemic all over the place fake followers you pay for the followers we get dms all the time you guys want 100 000 followers yeah just give us a couple dollars like no 20 bucks or 100k it's like we're good because the other thing you can tell when you if you really click on people's followers you'll see a whole list of like random names yeah if you click on them it's like no posts, one follower. The other thing is,

and this is the funniest part about the fake follower thing, because there's an algorithm that tracks that stuff, they will start to cut out those accounts, and you will watch people's following dwindle by like 10K a day, and then they're back down to their original. So that's an easy one to figure out if they're fake or not. It was funny for it to call it out,

but the reverse is Kelly throws shade about the donations again, which is funny. You open yourself up. You make a comment. Now you're open for, business. Yep, 100%. But Shimea joins and brings up the sisterhood again. And you can tell she's in her feels after the show and she's like on Cloud 9. She's like, this is what it's all about, supporting each other. Sad Porsche is not here, but I totally understand, but this is the sisterhood. Like,

hell yeah, everybody. And proof positive that it's not because we already saw the shade between Kelly and Britt. Everybody leaves except for Britt and Shemia and they start talking. And she's asking Britt about telling Portia that she was talking shit and showing her text messages and this and that. I was actually more surprised that Shamiya is denying all of it because I do believe

unfortunately I believe Brit. I do believe Brit. I fully believe Brit. I think that Shemia was caught red-handed and she took a very wild approach to this by denying it because Portia knows that she sent you text messages about it and it was very

specific what Britt was saying. You're caught. You can spin it if you want to. I think maybe an apology would probably be the better surprise approach here. Just maybe apologize doing that. I'm not apologize to Brits. He will take that and run with it. But all you really have to do for a spin here

is, look, I was with Britt when you were texting me. I wanted a second opinion on it because I didn't really know how to handle it. And I thought that she'd be able to keep it close to it. I thought that she'd be able to keep it close to her chest and not tell everybody about it. But here we are. You can spin it on to Brit. Why is Brit going around telling people your business? Why is Brit sitting down with you and saying, oh yeah, she may have showed me those text messages?

No, like you don't do that. So you can spin it and make Britt look like a worse person than she already is. And that would work fine. And yeah, maybe Porsche is going to feel some type of way about you sharing. But if you just say I was looking for a second opinion because, you know, sisterhood, I was worried about you. Play the sister. I don't care. Just keep playing that card until it's six. I have no idea how it's going to work, but whatever. Yeah. And, To your point, just set Brit up and she'll take herself out. Because in this moment, Shemia's calling her jealous, you're jealous of me, you're jealous of Kelly and I and the friendship that we have,

which I do believe to be true. I think that there's some merit there. And of course, the logical clapback is you're lying about your daughter. Mm-hmm. Nope. Why not? Nope. Nope.

That's not crazy. That's crazy to me. Like, we have confirmed health problems with Shiloh. we or is it Shia Shiloh? Shiloh. Yeah, Shiloh. We know what she's been through. She's a fighter. She's kicking ass. But yeah, she has a lot of things that pop up and that's very

worrisome. So to then say that she wasn't concerned because when they got to Miami she did a shot and it's like, okay, but we saw her in Grenada and she was a mess. You comforted her, Brit. And now you're trying to say that she overpaid it. It was so weird. I was like, that's, that's, just you trying to be relevant what she does it I don't even think it's her trying to be relevant I think that's who she is as soon as she gets brought into it she goes is so low and she's always ready

to go zero to 100 yeah I agree it's just so frustrating to watch who was a fager the clocked that like you have to stop walking into rooms and immediately just snapping like you can't do that you're always on go yeah you're always on go like you have to be a little bit more chill about this or else you're going to find yourself in the situation now you've got problems with every single one of the ladies on this show because of the way you act you didn't really do anything specifically to them to start it but as soon as anything questions any questions pop up about your behavior about something you said donating whatever it might be you immediately snap and then it's like well i don't i don't like you i don't want to yeah nobody wants to hang out

with people like that and i don't really understand why you would think like oh yeah they don't like me because i'm just too real like no no one has ever said that that's not it at all I never said that about you. You are actually very fake. And we see these in the scene where you're looking with your husband to go look at it's right. It's right now. It's after this. You can't afford that.

Mike knows that you can't afford that. He's uncomfortable sitting in the seat. That's the picture I use for questions because I'm looking at that picture and I'm like, Mike knows that this is fake. He knows that you guys can't afford this. And when we see the two of you talking about having babies or whatever, that man never looks excited. Like he thinks he made a mistake. And I don't know what's going to happen there.

I really don't know what's going to happen there. I really don't know what's going to happen there, but I don't care because it won't be on our TV screens. You're not coming back to the show. I just hope that you have a happy life, just, you know, off screen. So I don't have to see it. No, I agree. And watching those scenes of her on a plane and just the way she's talking like, oh, it can be like our cute little weekend getaway. It's like this plane, I can't imagine how much it costs.

And not even just the plane, the fueling costs are like 30 grand per flight. So no, you can't afford. You couldn't afford the Lamborghini or the Rolls Royce you were looking at early in the season, whatever that was. You definitely can't afford a private plane. A PJ? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Who do you think you're fooling?

Like, no, but not one person at home that is watching this show thinks that that's legitimate. Not with what money. You don't even have a license right now to deal insurance or whatever the hell you're doing. You didn't even pay the country club for the event that you had. So you expect us to believe that you are delinquent on your bills, but you're buying a PJ? Nah, no, not happening. That's America for you. Actually, that's not a bad call.

I mean, that's not unheard of. I'm just saying, I don't think that she is even in the ballpark of being able to put a down payment on a private plane. So, yeah, get out of here. Yeah. But we got an update on Nana's Waffles, which is good since you and I want to invest. So I like that we're getting, you know, quarterly updates about where they're at right now. And they're behind, as we saw with that overly. produced scene early on where it's like we are not going to make the deadline it's like uh what are we

going to do but it's that sandy springs location where it's like the flagship store so they're still working through the whole thing and uh it makes more sense because she's concerned as we know this divorce is taking forever we get confirmation at the end that the divorce is final so yep good job kelly but valid concern she's like yeah if i open this place now while we're still married it becomes an asset and that's something that can be split apart in the marriage So it's like, all right, yeah, take your time because I'm investing in you, Kelly, not, I would have liked her to say that early because I would have, I didn't, it didn't really occur to me until the end when she's, you know, talking about still being married and it being a shared asset. Yeah. I think if, if they were real about it, because like back in the day when we're going through this episode two, we just assume that that's all played up for the cameras.

Like, okay, yeah, we're definitely not going to open on time. Kelly thinks we are. We're really going to push it. We don't know what the hell is going to happen. But if she said it up front, I'd be like, good call. make sense to me that wait until the divorce is finalized that's a really good call and then we wouldn't really care as much but i think maybe part of her thought i need to try to push to open this by the end of the season so it's a big triumph for me or it can be like you know one of the last two episodes

we're opening kelly's waffles here we go waffles well i thought that they were going to change the name wasn't it kelly's waffles now oh i don't know but either way we're opening the flagship store we can have a big event here maybe we do a little charity where we feed the neighbor hood, whatever it might be, that could be a big moment for me. I think she was probably a little conflicted on that. But somebody definitely gave her some good advice, which is what we like to see. Yeah, you love it. And I think we need to do a show in Atlanta.

They have a city winery there. And I think we need to go to Nana's Waffles while we're there. Are we even allowed to go to city winery anymore? Didn't people say that we were backing Jacks Taylor because of the city winery connection that we had? The funniest shit, I saw that comment. We were asked to host that. And we said, fuck no.

we even said fuck no to like it was a year maybe two years after scandevall oh yeah when we were asked to host something with him it was like a trivia with him and schwartz i think jacks may have been there too actually he was too and this is before the valley started and we're like absolutely not we're already in in a bad space all right we are straight guys talking about bravo we get shit all the time you want us to go back tom sandoval and schwartz absolutely not we'll not happen because we have morals and we stand on those we avoid payday just so we can say to shitty people and now go fuck yourself so that's who we are hell yeah hell yeah brother but drew and ralph are having a conversation they clearly got together we're like hey we need to end this season on a higher note why don't we have a fake convo about us being good together i just love him calling her and asking if he can come upstairs yeah am i allowed to come up the stairs that shit was so funny dude you want to chat uh do you mind if i come upstairs for this yeah can i did you miss the piano boy i missed the piano it's in the same house yeah i know and you get on the He's playing that piano every weekend.

Like, what are we talking about? I don't know. It was, I don't even care to go over the scene because I didn't believe any of it. It was so dumb. Yeah. Is their, their divorce isn't finalized yet, though, right? No. No, that one's going to take a while.

One of those financials ever came out. Still curious what Ralph does. God, me too, man. He goes to conferences. We know this. What is he doing in there? We go to conferences, but let's talk about Fadre and Sheshay, a 32 year old stud they're going to the vineyard together making some charcutts there's not really

much here to talk about he's a handsome fella good for pager handsome guy like him absolutely but let's get back to brit and mike just ever so briefly because i don't care about this one either because we're not invested in their family so to see both families come together i'm like cool what's up next like don't need to see it don't need to talk about it they tried to like lay the groundwork for that storyline too so much this season that we we got checked out so quickly that that first conversation between her and her sister was so bizarre it was so big we had so many more questions after watching it than we did before when they set the tone yep then we stopped caring about brit entirely and they kept pushing it and pushing it with her mom coming over and they're

talking to mike about his relationship with her mom and mike's relationship with the whole family and what's going to happen are we going to have kids and it's like dude like we don't care anymore stop doing this and this was supposed to be the big payoff where they announced that they're officially officially going to have a ceremony to get married then they're going to have kids everybody's happy whoo i wanted to fast forward i was scrolling truly do not care i scrolled that entire scene i was just i don't invest in not invested at all but let's get to the oakley gala and some big news surrounding it turns out that angela and drew actually met with Marcus. This was interesting. There's a lot of questions about this. I got a whole lot of

question marks because initially, because initially in this conversation, he says that they met up with this dude and Marcus lied. That's what we get here. Okay. And I mean, you could say that he did, I guess, in the end of this whole thing, but just the setup to me when we find out what happened later was a little bit strange. But they said we found out who did this whole thing. It's like, okay, but then when it was presented, that feels weird, too, because we go in a roundabout way. It doesn't feel like it's the truth. No, it feels like it's shrouded in something like, but I don't know who to blame. I'm not even blaming for who hired Marcus or who sent him on this mission.

I have questions about how this all came about and now who's lying about this now. That's the problem that I think we kind of came up with. And I guess, you know, it's something we'll find out of the reunion, probably. have to wait until part three to talk about it that's going to be a nightmare but when it comes to marcus i mean the dude's just such a worm and that's i know he's right away that's actually that's an i think you should leave thing marcus the worm hicks that was uh you remember that one he's one of the he's a regular on the colegate hour but um no nothing all right no that one over my later yep all right um but he's just he's such a

worm he has no credibility we don't even know who this guy is he popped up randomly. He signed a waiver to be on Bravo, so we get to see his face. Everything around this guy is questionable. So we're starting there, and we find out a little bit later that, you know,

Fager's the one who gave Angela the information. Angela said, I've got people. I've got people all over the place, people that care about me. So we were able to track this guy down immediately. We'll talk more in depth about that later. But to find out that you guys had to sit down with him,

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I'm like, okay, is Kelly the one that did it? Is that what your information gave you? The setup was wild. She was just going through. It was like one of those, let me see who squirms type of moments. Like I know, quote unquote, I know the answer, but I'm going to go through the people that I think. were suspects and the people who were in close to it so we're gonna yeah maybe people are maybe that's what it was I didn't really I thought it was just a big setup like a dramatic pause like I'm

gonna go through everybody and but you're pointing a finger at people you're gonna piss them off yeah especially Kelly or I'm sorry especially Brit who's like immediately going to go after you but she didn't really in this moment I'm a married woman I'd never and I was like oh fishy yeah fishy that she didn't go zero to 100 because usually she does now for whatever reason she's reserved it's a little questionable. I think, truly, I think it was probably Britt. I think Britt probably has a hand of this. I think she has something to do with it.

She has something to do with it. But yeah, you're right. That was very odd. It was a very odd strategy of Angela. And I think it was maybe, it was just drama for the cameras, which I can appreciate because it was fun to watch just kind of going through everybody. Like, was it you? Was it you?

Maybe it's you. Like watching them try to answer for their supposed to find. It was Britt in the library with a candlestick. Yeah, exactly. That's kind of where I was going with us. Yeah, I, I was picking up what you're putting down, but Marcus comes over to talk to the group and we get a brief glimpse of the enforcer. Charles Oakley. Why did Angela tell him that this is what was going on?

He should have given him a heads off. He seemed surprised. He saw the guy and he's like, fuck, no. Absolutely not. Get the fucking asshole out of here. Like, absolutely. Like, that's how he should be. You've got this guy here that's questioning our marriage.

What's he doing here? Angela, I know that, you know, it just looked bad for their relationship because Angela's yelling at him to back off. Like, this is what we're doing. It's like, but you didn't tell him that you were doing this clearly. If you did, he wouldn't be in the room. He would have walked away because he doesn't want to be involved in that shit. You let us just now see what he's going to do. And he's the enforcer.

Everybody's like, fuck. Yeah, dude. And to end it with, you're lucky. I was like, you don't know how lucky you are. Yeah. Marcus, you have no idea. You're lucky that this man decided to walk away.

And he's like fed up. He's like, this fucking mic off me. I'm done with this shit. I'm out of here. And he bounces and they do end up bringing Marcus over. And then he goes through this whole thing. Like, he just wanted his was five minutes of fame. Yeah, it was crazy. He's like, someone in this room is not happy with Angela.

It's like, okay. That's the point, bro. Yeah, dude, what the fuck's going on? And he calls out Fager and then calls her the godfather of Atlanta, which was kind of funny. And then she quotes it in a confession, which is funnier. But the whole performance of it, I could have done without

that. It was pretty fucking nuts. And he's like, you know, I'm nervous to speak my truth. I'm afraid of what may happen to me. Like, what's going to happen to you? Like, I don't think Fadre's going to whack you. Like, you're probably going to be fine from this whole thing. He's like, she dropped off an envelope.

What? Then where's that? If that's true. Where's the envelope. Where's the envelope? Show us any, any proof because you're not showing us and you want your fame. Show us your text messages. How did you guys meet up? Show us the calls. We need receipts. I met up with a go-between and her name was Junebug. Everybody's got a Junebug in Atlanta apparently. So this does nothing for us. Also, I don't, as funny as it is to imagine, I don't see Fager pulling up in the back of a rolls in a phantom and just rolling her window down with their sunglasses on and handing off a little envelope.

I disagree. I could see it. No, I can see it very vividly. I can see that scene vividly. I just don't see her actually doing it in this situation and dropping it off to a guy, Marcus, who's a dork. That part doesn't really track. But the whole thing was so dramatic. It was so cinematic.

I appreciate it honestly. I just think the point we're at. For this season, yeah, that's a really good point, honestly, because it was fun. It was very fun to imagine playing with the ideas. It felt like Clue, like you said. Yeah, yeah. But it was just bizarre. And nobody really knows what to make of it.

Us included, like, I don't think that's the whole story. I don't think that's even close to the whole story. There's probably a lot of fabrications floating around that entire story that we heard. The whole group is skeptical. They're all like, I don't know, man. But like, here's the thing. Like, that would be a Fadra move. That's the only reason I'm like, Fager would do this.

and I do think that she had a hand in it somehow. Shimea thinks that it's Brit, but that could also be recency bias because she doesn't like Brit. It's fair. I'm not going to condemn Shemia for thinking that. No. And like we're not going to get to the bottom of it.

All roads point to Fadra, like Angela's been on podcasts already talking about it. I think she went on Carlos King and pointed out that it was Fadra. Like gave a little bit more details on what happened. So I do believe Fadre was behind it. But we get the end notes because there's not really much more to break. down there just people like pointing fingers confused and we get the end notes kelly is divorced

ralph still in the basement angela as you said sold three of the five houses lost two of them and uh is coming out with a fan line which actually might be one of those things or that's so random like it could potentially work like it may be nothing but maybe the fan line works could be definitely could be it's definitely a niche commercial opportunity 100%. And the last thing is, you know, five months later, Portia's house is now Porsche's house. Kind of.

It sounds like it's maybe up for grabs when they get to the court proceedings because it is a split asset. Both their names are on the house. But for now, she gets to be in the house. She gets to film one scene this whole season in the house. So good for Portia. And her divorce update is that she's hoping the pre-nup gets enforced. because everything's 50-50 split.

But before they could get there, Simon was detained by ice. That was the shadiest little note by Bravo, too. The divorce is on ice. I know, dude. That was tough. That was crazy. It's crazy work.

Oh, God. So we don't really know where that's going to go. Yeah. And it sounds to me like the pre-nups splitting 50-50, wouldn't that split the house 50-50? I think they would have to be, it would be a forced sale. And then they have to split the proceeds.

Unless she, maybe she buys them out. I don't know. But hopefully it works out in her favor. But yeah, all said and done, clunky season, not our fave. But there's hope on the horizon if they can move some things around and get the problem out of there in Brit. We'll see what we have next year. Yeah. We have to get through this reunion first.

Oh, yeah. We're not even done yet. uh but let's get some questions uh from cackles awful up so instead congratulating uh philly on getting a w nba team congratulations thank you appreciate it yeah take that that's 20 30 so we'll see if you know 2030 still around oh wow i think it's they have to be in cahoots with uh the NBA because we're getting we are getting a new basketball stadium so that so that's probably part of the contract Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense.

From Dan J. Falconer. What's faker? Brits Bravo outrage or Brit pretending she can afford a jet? The jet. I think. The jet. Yeah. Yeah, the jet.

For sure. Close, though. Yeah. From Comeret Morales. Atlanta is still on? Yes, it is. It certainly is. There's three more episodes.

Check back at the end of July. It's still going. from Josie Thibbert oh Josie the bear to bear I should tell us how to pronounce that one the bear the bear

the bear starting to feel all like fake storylines it was and you saw that they were trying to do what they could to wrap the season up but it did become especially in this episode very obvious that there was a lot of production going on yeah definitely uh from Ryan Stoneman

am I the only one who thinks Porsche Kelly and Fager were in on it Did you see Kelly smile? Kelly could be in on it, to be fair. Yeah, I don't know. Like she was moving very strangely in the shadows for a lot of the season where she was changing allegiances, kind of going back and forth. She doesn't really like Britt. The thing that we can say for sure is that Britt and Kelly were not both in on it.

It's one or the other. Yeah, that's good point. Would not be able to cohabitate in some sort of situation like that. No, that's a really good point. But then you have things like this. from very joshua why is fadra so messy her and watch what happens live made me think she did set the oakley's up maybe there's a lot of them in on this she did have a lot to say and i know that you know that was a big sticking point during the scene like yeah she's been talking about the marriage

and even fager said that like all i said was that charles is he's around you know he's i he's famous he's this he's that it's like you said he's a man about town just like you said pretty much about Brit, so it's kind of tough. You did say a lot more, and you insinuate a little bit more. Yeah, I don't know, man. I really don't know what to make of it. What's up?

From Mitchie Egan. Mike looks like he's on Malaysia Flight 370. He does look lost. Definitely looks lost. Why are we here? Why are we? That's a really funny comment. Why are we here? Why are

even shopping for this? Like, is this the same scene as us shopping for cars? What are you doing to me? Dude, that, see, I said it last night in our Love Island episode. Our audience gets us. They do. That's a great statement. This is a little content update from Sarah, Amber Marie.

Will you keep your promise of not recapping part three of the too long reunion? If there's nothing there, if we watch the first episode and we get nothing, we will watch the second episode. If there's still nothing, we're probably not going to cover. that yeah seriously if there's nothing after two like we will stop because we have way too many shows right now to cover to waste time spending an hour and a half recapping and uh just complete dud so yeah we will we promise you if there's nothing after two we're done there's just no point this was kind of funny just because britt's going away i i'm going to spin it into something else uh from

From Rerald, Rerald, Rerald, 78. If Britt plugs her nose, do you think she sounds normal? Her voice is, it is very annoying. I have a theory about Brit because I did think that when she first started. She kind of looks like Nikki Minaj in some ways. And she's trying to talk like her slightly? I think at one point in her life, somebody said, wow, you look so much like Nikki and you act like her a little bit.

I think she just completely altered her whole personality, her facial expression. all of the things that she does, I think are completely mirroring what Nikki does. And now knowing her after an entire season of how she actually operates, I think that's exactly what she's doing. Like she tries so hard to look like her because one person at one point said that she looked like her. I think that's what it is. I see a slight resemblance. I'll give her that.

But that makes sense too because the voices are very similar. Interesting. And knowing her, you're right. Would she do that? Apsa fucking lootie. Yep. so yeah dude it's uh it's a pretty wild season it was up and down it was wacky uh we'll see what we have next year guys i don't know we got three episodes to go usually we wait we're like at the end

we'll get a season finale we have comments on the season and then we have some caveat at the end talking about how we're going to hold our uh our reviews for the season until after the reunion for this it's like i don't know that that season was kind of all over the map. It was a bit of a mess, but we're not going to hold our review. It's just, it is what it is. It is what it is.

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