Bros & Shows - Do Less, Lala (Vanderpump Rules Reunion Pt.1 Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 16, 2024

What's up Bros?! It's reunion season once more and we are with the VPR Crew. In part 1 we discuss last years reunion and the Rachel of it all. Most of the cast agrees they don't regret anything from last years reunion, especially given how Rachel has gone on a podcast/ press tour, filed a lawsuit against Ariana, talked about the show and bashed everyone on it. We go over Brock's relationship with his kids in Australia, the cast agrees he's a great father to Summer Moon but some questions still remain about his relationship with his first children. James and Ally come up and the scrutiny they received after starting their relationship post engagement, but meanwhile Ariana and Dan were championed. I think we all know why those two situations are different but James feels a certain way about it nonetheless. The main focus of this episode is Lala is trying to drive a wedge between Katie and Ariana. Bringing up potentially damning conversations had behind the scenes between her and Ariana. We've heard inklings of a huge fallout amongst the cast members so we see the seeds being planted in this first part. All in all not a bad reunion and definitely looking forward to the 2nd OR 3rd part... One of them will probably be a dud as 3 part reunions tend to have one blah episode, but the other one is going to definitely deliver. Introducing BravBros Members! Offering exclusive access, bonus episodes, monthly Q&A zoom and more! Use the link below to join! https://thebros.memberful.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When you're with Amex, Plathom, you get access to exclusive dining experiences and an annual travel credit. So the best hapice in town might be in a new town altogether. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Terms and conditions apply. Learn more at Amex.ca.com. The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox is an eight-episode Hulu original limited series that blends gripping pacing with emotional complexity, offering a dramatized look as it revisits the wrongful conviction of Amanda Knox for the tragic murder of Meredith Kircher and the relentless media storm that followed.

The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox is now streaming only on Disney Plus. As there is a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be on. Man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch.

Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only, Boot and Rally McGout. So what's up, dude? It's reunion season, and boy, aren't we happy?

I love reunions. I'm okay with this reunion just because it means it's the end. I agree. I don't have to deal with VPR anymore. Here's the thing. When we weren't recapping shows, I loved reunions. Certainly did. It's the culmination of the season.

You get to hash out the drama. They're a lot of fun. This is strictly, from a podcaster standpoint, reunions are tougher. Reunions are definitely tougher. I also wonder, because we do have a lot of complaints about the reunions aside from, you know, the better shows. I personally feel like reunions got worse when we started doing this because I remember the

reunions before we started and they were fun and we got a lot of answers. Now it's just so convoluted or it's just people making up stories and it just doesn't make a lot of sense and it just frustrates us. So I don't think it has anything to do with our podcast. I think that reunions are just dipping. I don't think they're dipping. I think they're trying to drag them out into too many episodes. Oh, well, that's definitely true.

that's honestly because if you put there's enough from this season that if you put it and we're going to get without fail one of these three episodes is going to be good yeah and they're going to get to the root of a lot of stuff that we want to talk about and that's my honestly my only qualm with reunions recently it's not so much that they've gotten worse i don't think i think the biggest thing is they're trying to do multiple episodes so there's like there's always a dud no matter what there's always one dud episode that didn't need to be there my biggest issue with them honestly in recapping them is because they're Like, we like to go scene by scene in the shows because our brains don't work as well. And that's easier to do that because we have a chronological order. And reunions were jumping back and forth. You know what? Actually, though, for this episode in particular, one, there wasn't a ton of animosity. So you don't just have, like, we had the first episode last year, which was reasonable. It was just really tough because everybody's just yelling at each other.

And it's like, all right, what do we do? Do we just talk about how people yelled at each other the whole time? No, we can't do that. this one, at least we can focus in on like three major points. Yeah, agreed. And I feel like we always kind of forget that when a reunion season comes around. We're like, oh, yeah, by the third episode of the reunion that we don't need three of, we start to figure out, oh, let's just break it down into segments of this is what we're talking about here,

this is what we're talking about here, this is what we're talking about here, and then we'll just discuss. Yes, I think that's our approach as of late. It does make it easier because obviously there's a lot to talk about. We need to figure out how everyone's reacting, how everyone's reacting, how everyone's responses are all of those good things and that's what you get out of reunion so this is not us bashing reunions no not at all it's just saying that it's really difficult for us to recap yeah it's they're harder to recap that's all and uh before we get into it i just want to bring up two things the first thing because i'm wearing my kansas city royal shirt i want to remind our listeners

those that don't follow us on instagram as you know my little brother plays for the kansas city royals and he has decided to start a community outreach program which is really awesome i'm really proud of him. And this is just what my brother does. He's a very kind, hardworking, motivated individual, and I'm really proud of him for doing this. And what it's called is Project for Kids, spelled P-R-O. The J is actually a 7, because that's his number, Project for Kids. And you can follow him on Instagram. He's just getting it up and running. I think we got him like 150 followers when I posted it on Instagram. If you're listening to this, if you can do me a solid, do my little brother a solid. He's trying to give back to the youth in his community. And I know him, he's going to put

all of his effort into this and make it super successful and it's probably going to leapfrog into something even more amazing. So if you guys, our listeners, our amazing audience, could do me a solid, do Stone a solid, go follow his Instagram project for kids. The Jay and Project is a 7. Give him a follow, show him some support and some love. It would mean the absolute world to me and to him. So go follow Stone, Project for Kids on Instagram. And our second thing is, we have started Brof Bros. Members, a lot of you have signed up. I think 105 followers. Yeah, we're over 100.

We hit the 100 mark at some point last week, so now we're just on to the next milestone. Let's get the 150. 150, baby. So that link is also in our bio on Instagram. And if you scroll down to the show notes in this episode, it is listed right there. Click that.

It is $5 for the month or $50 for the year. What it does is it gives us more freedom to give you guys more content. We're going to do monthly zooms with Q&As. We're going to do merch. drops. We're going to do all sorts of exclusive content for members only. So go sign up Rob Bros. Members. We'll see you there. Sure will. Other than that, as we said, reunions are chaotic. So let's jump in so that we can start to break this thing down appropriately because there is a lot to talk about in this episode. I actually didn't mind it.

I last night, when I initially watched it, I was like, oh, man. And then I thought it through. I looked at some socials. I went and actually rewatch some of it. You I walked in on me rewatching some of it. Not the first time I walked in on you, am I right? Funny thing is, to that point, I was going to bring up, if you guys haven't listened to our Preston interview, we actually were talking jockstraps. We were sent by Carter Ware.

I'm going to give Carter Ware a shout out. They're nice enough to send us some jock straps. Yeah. So we have options, too. They gave us a pair of briefs. Some briefs. They gave us a, looked like a red jockstrap. Some mesh briefs.

Mesh briefs. Is there another one that I missed? I just, I think there was two different colored jock straps. Okay. All right. We got options. Got options. I just got to say, it was so nice.

They reached out to us immediately, sent us this stuff. I think it's really cool that they did that. So I promise you, you're not going to see it. But I will wear it. When we do our Martha's Vineyard episode next week, I will wear the jockstrap. Under my shorts. Under your shorts. But I will wear it.

Not even the members are getting exclusives on that. No one's getting that. But I will wear it during the episode. So just, you know, to try it out. Because Preston said once you start wearing them, they're way more comfortable. You never go back. So we got to report back. We'll find out.

We will. We sure will. But let's get into the VPR reunion. And we start out with the living situation of Tom and Ariana. And I guess at this point, there's a petition from Ariana to get Tom to sell the house. Andy had said that she had filed it eight months ago by the time that the reunion started. So that would put them because they did say that it was St. Patrick's Day. we know we love timelines on this sort of thing.

Love a good timeline. So we're looking somewhere around July of last year as when she did it, which is right around when they were filming. So I guess she couldn't really talk about it during the filming. And we kind of dropped it. I know originally, and there was a big sticking point when Lala was bringing it up and Tom was bringing it up and it was a whole thing.

We had an idea that there was something going on there and we found out that she was also bidding for other houses, trying to get out of there. So there was a lot going on behind the scenes. But it sounds like she had filed this eight months ago in July, and they can't talk about it right now, which is always so funny. I love that when they do that on reunions, especially.

I know. Like, hey, what's going on with this? It's like, it's in litigation. We can't talk about it. But later when that happens, Sheena decides to chime in and say, no, I can talk about it. I'm not part of this.

Yeah, exactly. But we get at least some movement, I guess, as to selling the house, whether or not Tom and Schwartz buy that house is another thing that we get to discuss today, which is so, it's just a sad, sad premise, honestly. Yeah.

Uh, but Ariana has been staying in an Airbnb in California, but she's spending most of her time in New York City with Dan and things seem to be going well with them. They're just over a year dating now. So I think we can finally put to bed the whole, they started dating so soon after it's like, yeah, but they're still together. They seem to be doing well. And I like Dan. I like Dan a lot. Yeah, he was, he was nice. Like he's a normal dude.

And clearly, because when he came into the scene so quickly last year after Scan of all, a lot of people are like, oh, he just wants to get on the show. show, this and that. This man does not want to be on the show. He very clearly doesn't want anything to do with this show. No. So I like Dan. I like Dan a lot, but... You have to imagine that Bravo probably called them and said, hey, do you want to show up to the reunion? You want to sit in the reunion? Like, no. Oh, yeah. I bet they did. Not at all. But as far as, like, the Tom's living together, and LVP asked, like, why? And the answer...

Oh, God, dude. The answer was brutal. Standoval's like, my dad's 60. He's got roommates. I was like, oh. Ugh. That explains a lot. It's even worse. That explains a lot, honestly. No shade at Sandoval's father. I don't know him.

He could be a great dude and maybe just likes to live with his boys. Who knows? But again... I'm going to throw a shade at Sandoval's awesome. That's fucking weird. It's weird. Yeah. It's a strange setup.

But it explains a lot. Do you think that Sandoval's father has to live with his roommates because he... Sandival spent all of his mom's money on Schwartz and Sandys and they're now broke? I don't know. I have no idea if his parents are together. There's no way there together. Probably not. with roommates.

I don't know what I mean. Dude, I don't know. We need a reality show there, apparently. Get the cameras up, Bravo, but... It's like the Golden Bachelor, but it's just... It's Sandibald and bachelors. I don't think that would be a... It's actually a pretty good...

I like it. I think... Probably better than VPR. It would be a sad show. Or maybe a happy show if they find love. What are we talking about? I don't know. Okay, cool.

What I didn't expect to bring up this reunion was Rachel. I thought we were past Raquel. You didn't think this was going to get brought up? Not to this extent, honestly. I was actually a little surprised as to how much they discussed it in the beginning. But LVP brings up the podcast and how much Rachel's been bashing the show. And Sandoval wasn't sure if she would return to the show. He kind of gave her what he says, which I don't believe,

but he always paints himself out to be this, like, very sentimental. I just want you to take care of yourself. If it's right for you can come back. on the show like I don't believe that that's how that went down at all no but the biggest question mark that I was actually curious about and I'm sure a lot of people were was are there any regrets from last reunion because it was so visceral everyone came out of the gate so hot yep everybody stands by it and I'm curious if Raquel had not gone on this press tour on bethany frankle's podcast on her own podcast, the lawsuit against Ariana and Sandoval, like all of the things that she's done in the wake of

everything, would they have a different sentiment? Probably, but it's tough to say because they went on this entire season of the Sandoval Redemption arc, but they're still not taking back what they said. That was surprising to me. I thought that maybe there would be a little bit of movement in there where you'd have somebody like Sheena or Lala, who's been like his biggest supporter at this point, saying, you know, maybe we were a little too harsh on him or James, who. seemingly wants to be friends with Sandoval, which is really weird because he flip flops in real

time. From phrase to phrase, he will flip flop. He'll attack Tom. And then he'll come back and be like, Tom, I love you. Like, let's talk about your wallpaper in your bathroom or your washing room or whatever. So no, I am more surprised that they didn't take any of it back. Or rather, I'm more surprised that they decided to just stand firm in what they said last year, because that's not what they've been doing this whole season. No, I agree. It was an interesting shift, I guess, but not a shift because I thought it would be different. Yeah. And the way that Sandoval talks about her afterwards, he's like, Lala gives credit to Raquel for showing up. And honestly, credit to Tom, too, because I'm a tough bitch.

She has to remind us all the time that she's a hard ass, which makes me believe you're not a hard ass, but whatever. And after that, Sandoval goes, looking back, she's a fucking coward. Yep. And now she's playing this victim narrative and saying that I groomed her and all these other things. And we do get the flashback to Lala saying the same thing. Granted, Sandoval doesn't know what the term grooming means. Nope. He is wildly wrong about it, honestly.

I'm not even going to repeat what he said about it, but they're both complicit in this. Like, she was just as much a party to it as he was. Maybe he manipulated the situation to his own benefit. That wouldn't be surprising knowing him. He's a scumbag. Yeah, I mean, she definitely was. Now, the grooming aspect of it all is,

it's a very loose term for this, which is not usually used for grooming. Correct. It's a very damning allegation. But she was what? She's 28. You know, he's 40. The whole thing is, what do we know about Raquel?

Raquel's a super fan. She's a huge fan of the show. She was that before she was with James. So the fact that now she can potentially go with Tom, like, yeah, Tom is using his position in Raquel's mind as this star of VPR. Like, yeah, she was enamored by him. Yeah. She probably said as much on the Bethany Frankel podcast,

but I've blocked that out of my mind. so who the fuck cares what I didn't care for was the comment at the very end and I didn't expect him to just completely bash her but once he started doing it it made sense that he was doing it this way because he's hurt and maybe he's hurt

I don't know if hurts the right word I think more than anything he feels like how dare she do this to me that's a good point like she would be nothing without this show she'd be nothing without me and now she's going on a press tour doing all of this because of what her and I did while I'm over here getting bashed day in and day out

which by the way he got off easy because there's people defending him now, fucking insane, she's allowed to go do what she's going to do and people are wishing her the best because she's out of the public eye. She's not on this show anymore. So for him to turn and just start bashing her,

that actually makes sense once he started doing it. The last comment I did not need. Well, yeah, obviously, when she's, you know, getting naked and getting into my pool, of course I'm complicit in this. It's like, ugh, dude, you don't need to go that far. They don't, and that's just his inability

to read the room in the room. and he takes it upon himself to be a savior in the moment say my biggest issue is that she dragged Ariana it's like don't do that don't don't do that I'm like Ariana I'm like huge eye roll across the room it's like you're not going to get through to her that's not going to work nice try pal but we get to the revenge porn lawsuit and sheena immediately jumps in and she's like she never sent it to anybody she didn't do anything wrong there she saw it on sandoval's phone you could argue that sandival is the problem here because he recorded without her knowing but that's not for me to say that's for the court to say but ariana didn't send it she has

sent sent text messages to the court she has sent the transcripts of everything to prove her innocence so hopefully that lawsuit gets scrubbed and she doesn't have to go to court or anything like that but okay if at least ariana got dropped from it and you leave sandibal on it to go answer he's the one who showed people so recording it so i don't know but again sandival says it's insane that she's coming after Ariana, another Ariana eye roll. But we get to a much more touchy subject, and that was the suicidal thoughts. I was actually surprised that they just flat out said it that way and framed this whole conversation of this segment.

I was like, whoa, we're getting right into it, huh? And Sandoval starts talking about his ups and downs and everything he does is under scrutiny, which is true. You don't help yourself because you do stupid shit. That's why you're always under scrutiny. And he honestly, the self-awareness to say, I'm not the smartest dude. I was like, wow, you know you're an idiot. That's good.

That's refreshing. Isn't that good? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I really don't. I assume that Tom thinks the best of himself, so him calling himself an idiot is a play. Okay.

Yeah. All right. That's fair. But look, Sheena and Lala both share my sentiment on the matter. Honestly, it's such a touchy thing that it's like, look, could he be manipulating it? Sure. That could be a play that he's doing. It's one of those things.

things that you don't want to question him on it, because let's say something does happen, he does self-harm, now you are part of the problem. Right. That is a much bigger issue. And Sheena says that she had had an experience prior where she had a friend that came to her and she doesn't love how she handled the conversation. Lo and behold, they ended up doing self-harm. Right.

And she still lives with that guilt to this day. How Ariana looked at it was, look, I didn't go after him during this whole thing. I kept to myself. I let everything else play out. So I'm not complicit in it. So none of this was on me. Right. So she didn't take it upon herself to address it really, which is fine.

She's within her right to do that. I think the best way to look at it and from a, honestly, from like a content creator standpoint and from their standpoint is, yeah, you're going to take it seriously as soon as somebody starts talking about that, having those sort of thoughts. You don't question that because at the end of the day, if Tom is using that as a play, he has to live with that. That's the end of the day. So, like, you can't question that because then you become a shitty person. You look at yourself a lot differently. You feel like, whoa, what am I doing here? Do I really hate this person that much?

Then I'm questioning those thoughts. Yeah. No, don't do that. Don't even venture down that road because it's dark. Just try to be there as much as you can, or an aria on his case. Let other people be there because, you know what? You're going through a lot of shit right now, too, and you don't really want to associate with them. But at the end of the day, if Tom is actually using that as some sort of victimized, like victimizing himself, let him live with that.

That's a really good point. That's a really good point. And I think, you know, Ariana touches on it again. Like, when that sort of stuff came up, I've had my own battles with this and that brought out things in me that I didn't want to make worse by involving myself in this. So I kind of stayed away from it. And that's when we get to the weaponizing her suicidal thoughts and ideology, ideation. Sorry, suicidal ideation. And Tom flat out says, yeah, she brought it up, but it felt like she was manipulating me with it, with that threat.

It's like, you literally just said the same thing that you're being accused of, but you just flat out said it. At least they didn't say it. Now, when Ariana's doing it, all of a sudden, it's a problem. Right. Yeah. Like, that's where, you know, and LVP said it earlier, two steps forward, 10 steps back. It's like, you just, this is the same exact thing, literally the same thing.

But now you're just saying it, that she used this against me and manipulated me. And LVP points out the biggest part of all of this is regardless of your. thoughts and feelings on the matter, Tom. She said that to you in confidence. She didn't blow that out in the airwaves. You did on TV. You said that. And he goes, because I didn't believe it.

And she knows, she had a decent reunion. Because she jumps in, she goes, if you wanted to call it bullshit, then you should have walked out the door. Yep. If you didn't believe it, then you would have left. Instead of coming to my house and using that against her, blowing it all out of proportion, and then doing what she did and handling it the way you handled it, which was awful. Yeah.

If you actually thought she was full of shit, you would have left. Yeah. I mean, it's hypocrisy at its highest. You're going to sit there and you're going to claim these things on your end and expect everybody to take them seriously. But then you can weaponize someone else's. That doesn't really make any sense. You should be able to get what you give.

And that's really how it should be. And you can see how Tom's mind is turning and turning during all of this because he starts talking about how everything that he does is under scrutiny, every step that he takes, he gets bashed right back down. I'm just trying to live. And like you said, he even came to. the self-realization that I'm an idiot and yeah I'm going to do some certain things

but when you think about at this point this is now March what he's done in the off season between filming and that everything that he did was fucking insane I know the vial show every like any sort of appearance that he made he was an asshole Billy Lee podcast like you're a dick

you're not doing yourself any favors if you went and hid and got out a little like the spotlight and yeah even if you had a girlfriend and you were just doing whatever that's fine but you were going actively on podcasts and saying some of the worst shit that there is. Because he's still in this feels like a victim somehow because of the backlash that he got. And that takes us right to the George Floyd thing.

Yeah, I was just going to say that. Let's take it right back to the George Floyd. Exactly. And look, and people pointed this out that are weirdly Tom Zandoval sympathizers. Like, yes, we understood immediately what he was trying to say. Right. The sentiment is pretty obvious. Like, no, he wasn't saying that he's O.J. or George Floyd.

what he was saying was that this captured the news media and the public attention similar to those things. I love when he starts talking about the CNN thing because, yeah, we thought the same fucking thing, dumbass. Like, what the hell is this doing on CNN? Yeah, and even like Ariana's nodding her. Like, we're all on the same page. This got way bigger than anybody could have imagined. Sure. But Katie's comment, intent versus impact, is just shunner.

chef's kiss. It's like, exactly. Just because you were trying to compare it, and that's the first thing that came to your head, does not mean you have to blurt it out because of the polarizing event in which we're in. By comparing this to George Floyd, it's just, it was shocking. Like when he said that, I still remember when that came out. I was like, what the fuck? He still also hasn't learned his lesson because he's still talking about himself in the same

breath as, and I know again what he's trying to do, he's trying to say, why is this such big news that it's like these other things. But you can't say, yeah, I'm opening the paper. One, you probably don't fucking read the paper, dumbass. Two, you can't say I open the paper and I see Scandival and then right underneath of it is what's going on in Ukraine. Don't just stop talking about terrible things happening in the world. And then you're dumbass.

That's a good point. But we move on. During the Volvo Fall Experience event, discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design that leaves plenty of room for autumn adventures. And see for yourself how Volvo's legendary safety. brings peace of mind to every crisp morning commute. This September, leased a 2026 XE90 plug-in hybrid

from $599 bi-weekly at 3.99% during the Volvo Fall Experience event. Conditions supply, visit your local Volvo retailer or go to explorevolvo.com. You can get protein at home or a protein latte at Tim's. No powders, no blenders, no shakers. Starting at 17 grams per medium latte,

Tim's new protein lattes, Protein without all the work at participating restaurants in Canada. When your investors, customers, and workers demand more from your business, make it happen with SAP. The AI-powered capabilities of SAP can help you streamline costs, connect with new suppliers, and manage payroll, even when your business is being pulled in different directions. To deliver a quality product at a fair price, while paying your people what they're worth too, so your business can stay unfazed. Learn more at sap.com slash uncertainty. I went to Lala and her custody battle with Randall and I thought it was very strange that Lisa asks her,

why are you so emotional? It's because you're pregnant. It's like, you don't have to do that. I don't like Lala, but that was kind of a weird shot to take. But moving on from there, we get to Sheena, and she's talking about Summer Moon and the postpartum OCD, which we got to learn a lot more about.

She actually takes the time to explain the difference between postpartum depression and postpartum OCD, which I appreciated this scene. We like to call things out that are good moments where people are calling attention to actual issues. So, hats off to Sheena there for explaining those two situations because I didn't know the difference. Now I do. So that was helpful. And we get into the Lala and Brock fear.

And I already saw some of the questions people have asked us for this episode. People are like, do you think they hooked up? I don't think so. I don't think so either. I really don't. But I do understand why she had that fear, especially considering. considering Sandoval, and then she's in the comment section. People are like, oh, you see the way they look at each other.

Lala's response could not have been worse, in my opinion, to qualm any kind of concerns that Chena had because she's like, of course I look at him like that. He stepped up in a certain way that no other man had, and we are kind of like a thruple. Why? If I am. And Chita agreed.

She was like, ha-ha. I think she was so caught off guard. I think she was like, oh, wait, fuck. Like, in that moment, flat out just say, first and foremost, first and foremost, absolutely not. Yeah. And then you can say the weird thrumple comment. Sure.

But I just thought that was a weird. It wasn't even like she was making a joke. Like she was just saying how she felt. I know. Like she just let her feelings out about Brock after that comment. I know. What the fuck are you doing? That's what I thought.

Like I don't even think you make that comment at all. Like you're saying, yeah, you can address it and say absolutely not and then do that. I don't think you even make that comment once. That's a good point. And like this isn't a moment where I'm trying to drag Lala. because we'll get to that at the end of the episode. You confuse the situation and you say I would never, ever with Brock. Have you seen them in a man, what do they call it, Mancini?

Mancini, a speedo? A speedo, yeah. Banana Hammock, yeah, Banana Hammock's good too. There's another phrase that I wanted to use, man something. It's a mankini. Yeah, all right, mancini. Banana hammock is my favorite phrase. I think it's a funny phrase.

You need to get Brock some Carterware. Hey, there you go. There we go. There you have another plug for Carterware. You're welcome. But we actually start to discuss Brock and something that we have called attention to all season is we need answers about the situation with his kids in Australia. Now, this is a layered scenario here. This is not just flat out.

Have you seen your kids? Have you not seen your kids? Why haven't you seen your kids? We know that there was a domestic abuse charge involved with this and his ex-wife. So there's a lot of different things to discuss here. But the biggest thing for me, taking away from this scene is, you know, he's up to the dentist's support. and I'd heard people talk about this prior. The kids don't want to see him yet,

and it's not that his ex... How old are the kids? I would imagine. I think they were like, and I could be wrong here, but I think when this issue came to like two years ago and they were talking about the fact that he hadn't seen them in a while,

I think they were like three and some three and five maybe, so I'd imagine now they're getting closer to 10, but I don't know. I don't know for sure. But they're old enough, to be making the decision to not want to see him. Right. And that's why I was confused.

I was like, are they old enough to actually make that decision? Or is this, um, Australian, like, it's not like, I, I don't really understand how any of it works, but it could be on the ex-wife. It could be on this or that. Obviously, like you said, it's a very layered situation. Right. Know all the details. And that's why it's hard to speculate.

Yeah. I was just imagining like a three-year-old, like, hey, do you want to see this guy? And it's like, who? Yeah, right. Like, I don't, I think they're old enough, well, they're clearly old enough to make that call or maybe like, I don't know, I don't want to speculate. It's too personal, I guess, to them. But what stood out to me the most was the cast's reaction to this whole scene.

Because Katie even admits that she has to eat her own words because seeing him with Summer Moon, he's such a great dad. And, you know, everyone's breaking down and crying. Ariana's crying. Katie's crying. Brock is crying. Sheen is crying. Like the whole room is in tears.

To me, you can't fake a room full of tears. And to me, that points to, all right, I think Brock is at the very least. Like, does he treat Sheena well? No. Is he a good dad? Seemingly, yes, he is. And I actually see him on Instagram. With Summerman.

Yes, with Summer Moon. I see him on Instagram with her all the time. He does seem like he's a genuine father with her. And like, this is his second chance to be a dad. This is the first time I felt sympathy for Brock in this scenario. And I understand that he did what he did. And actions come with consequences. And he's paying the consequences for those.

And he may never get to. to see his other kids again. But I'm a firm believer in, you know, given my own past, in rectifying your past and becoming a better person moving forward. So I'm not going to damn him for it anymore. It looks like he's making the effort. He paid his child support. He's reaching out, trying to get in contact with them.

If it comes out that it's bullshit, I'll eat my words. But at the same time, I felt for him this scene. And a big part of that is actually because of the cast reaction. Yeah, totally. I don't feel your sentiment. But that's okay. Which is all right. It's just, at the end of the day, I mean, he made a decision.

He left. I agree. He did what he did. He chased his dream to go to the NFL as he says, whatever. I don't fucking care. There's just still so many questions. Like, you went back to Australia, but like, did you try? I don't know if you tried.

Are you saying that you tried? I do agree with the fact that, yeah, you do have a second chance here, so, you know, don't fuck it up. Yeah. And it seems like you're not fucking it up. So good for you on that front. But you still have things that happened in the past that you did at the end of the day. And that's fair.

I mean, that's fair. It's a fair take on it. And my whole thing is, again, if Brock is a background character and we don't really care, then, you know, I don't really have to talk about it as much. But you want to sit there and you want to give people a real talking to. You want to sit down and talk to Ariana about how she's handling Sandoval. You want to talk to everybody about how their feelings are going. Don't do that because there's still so many things that you're not addressing. And now what?

You address at this one time. And I'm supposed to be like, oh, Brock, good job, bud. Like, no, I'm just not going to do it. That's fair. Look, that's a fair take. And, you know, I'm a softie at heart. So when people start crying, then I'm like, oh, but no, I think that, you know, there's merit to both of it or both takes. It does not mean that I'm like, oh, Brock's a great dude.

Like, good for you, Brock, not by any means. But it is nice to see effort in some capacity. That's all I'm saying. Also, with the people, everybody crying in the room, none of these people are great people. No, that's a good point. Yeah, but I don't know. It doesn't mean that much. I don't want to take away from the entire moment.

I'm not saying it is this vindicating moment where every. Everything is good. Brock's a great guy. I just more men in this moment. I was like, all right, I feel for him a little bit. How about that? Fair. Again, treat your fucking wife better. Absolutely. Jesus Christ. Actions have consequences. Maybe I'd feel better for him if he wasn't an asshole all year. I agree. That's also

very true. So I settled down. I was just saying a little bit of something. I know. I'm just not letting you go too far. I'm not going too far. I'm not going too far. I'm not going too far. Actions have consequences. I'm not going to let you go too far. If you keep repeating yourself, I'm going to keep doing the same thing. I will get the last word in. Moving on. we get to Ariana's come up

as what I wrote down and the brand deals and Broadway and all these amazing things that came from this tragedy of Scandival that happened and we talk about Dan we already discussed that they're not living together

but they get to spend a lot of time together in New York by coastal by coastal she's bi coastal now or wants to be bicostal and Andy asks the question on whether or not

this relationship with Dan was hurtful or helpful in processing everything and she's like you know what? I don't know because I haven't yet. This is something or a relationship that I'm enjoying. I really like Dan. We're very happy together at some point when everything slows down. And I'm glad she addressed this because people have brought this up. Like she's doing so much. Like has she even sat down and thought about what happened to her? According to her, not really.

She hasn't had time to slow down. And there's honestly something great about that where it's like you are so busy. You have a new man. Broadway. All these amazing things are happening that you don't have time to sit there and just focus on the shit show that was your relationship for the past 10 years at the same time it is going to be interesting when that finally sinks in and if it ever will or if she is going to kind of just with everything that she has going on for is she going to leapfrog past this i think she's going to leap frog past it i feel like the way that she's talking about the show we find out later that she didn't even really watch she didn't watch any of the season really like she's watched any of it she's checked out of this show yeah and it seems

like she's checked out of pretty much everybody else except for Katie. She's keeping, you know, Sheena, she's being nice to. Lala, for now she's being nice to until they eventually show her that last scene. And I assume there's going to be a big blow up from that. But I think that she's just moved on to bigger and better things. And she's going to continue to go down that road. And as she said, this has been her dream for a very long time. We didn't really know that that much, but this has been her dream for a very long time.

And now she's achieved it through this tragedy. But she's able to go do that. And she's going to ride it for as long as she possibly can. and then there's always more things on the horizon for her. So she doesn't need the show anymore. And of course, that's kind of what we talked about all season, where that's where the resentment for the rest of the cast comes from. We still have to sit here and do this shitty show,

and you're moving on to bigger or better things. You don't need us anymore. 1,000 percent. And even to the point where the fucking producers are getting butt hurt about it. Who, Jermaine? Jeremiah. Will forever and always be known as Jermaine on this show. I love the fact that we got a one-star review because we got his fucking name wrong.

Fuck that guy. Yeah, whatever, dude. Jermaine's a funnier name anyway. And everyone else that was commenting was like, I laughed out loud and was yelling at my radio. Radio. Radio. I guess, yeah.

Okay, boomer. At my podcast device? Sure. Cool. Yep. Moving on. We get to James and Alley and valid question. And it's really interesting how he handled it because he's over it, clearly.

But they ask, why was your relationship so scrutinized while Arianas was not when she got into a relationship much sooner than you did with Allie, post Raquel. And he immediately is like, well, I'm over, it's not a big deal. Like, I don't really care, but I think it's interesting

that everyone was putting us in a spot or their limelight. Raquel was the It Girl and everybody liked her afterwards. But meanwhile, she was sucking Tom's wee-wee downstairs. But I'm over.

I don't care. I just don't want to talk about it. You're clearly not over it, which is fine. James isn't over anything. No. Anytime that we bring up something that happened in the past, he's very clearly not over it, even though he'll take the time to tell us that he's over at five times. Yeah, I know.

But look, he has a valid point. He does have a valid point. I can tell you why, but he does have a valid point. And the reason why is no one's going to be like, oh, Ariana, what are you doing? Correct. You just got cheated on, and everybody just saw it on a national and worldwide level. So you do whatever the fuck you want. Like, we're not going to scrutinize you for that.

James, you broke off your engagement. Your engagement was broken off by Raquel. And then you moved on within a couple of months and said that you loved Allie. So, yeah, people are going to have some questions, but people are going to move on at whatever pace they want to move on. It's not that big of a deal, but you're on a TV show, so people do have questions. Yes. Yep. They're going to question the guy who didn't go through a whole cheating scandal before they question the girl who was blindsided and had to deal with it worldwide.

Exactly. Exactly. That's why. I mean, it's pretty cut dry. I understand why he's upset, but that's why. you have every right to be upset sure it's okay but that's why yep yep but we move on to tom's new girlfriend who doesn't watch the show good it's great news for you and then we get to talk about schwartz and la la apparently being flirty because of one scene where they were flirty

but again like lvp out of left field i would love that it's like dude what the fuck why like i know why it's great for ratings i guess but not really like that would if that happened I would be like, oh, this is all fake. Everything's fake. I hate everything, and I'm never watching this again. Meanwhile, Katie's sitting right there. Like, and no, no, no, just no. Just now.

Absolutely not. We get an update on something about her, which they said when this aired, it would be open. I do not believe it's open. Nope. I know it's supposed to open this month. I thought May 21st or something like that is when it's supposed to open. So we'll see if it actually does, but they start talking about the red tape issues. they had to go, LVP jumps back in again.

I, again, take this back to the Jeremiah Jermaine thing. I think she feels a certain way about Ariana's success. I don't need LVP on this reunion right now. She can come out, you know, when the friend of comes out. When Joe comes out, we can get LVP. Like, that's all we really need. I don't need her sitting next to Andy talking the entire time and trying to steer conversations.

I don't either. You don't care what you have to say. you're an executive producer, go produce somewhere else. Just not right in front of our faces. Go produce back at Vanderpump Villa. That's doing well. It's doing well. It's great show.

We like that show. But you also get kind of the same energy from Ariana because there was a comment made where she's talking about closing pump and she's like, you know, 10 years open is a successful restaurant. Ariana's like, really? I'm like, oh, are they contentious? Because I didn't see that coming. It makes sense.

It makes sense. But I didn't see that coming. No, I didn't see that coming either. Especially knowing that Ariana hasn't. watch this season. Because had she watched this season, I would get it because she would see LVP pushing this Tom redemption arc on Lala, on Sheena. Just because she didn't watch the season, it doesn't mean that she doesn't know that it happens, though. That's fair. Maybe that's why. So I think that she does have some sort of resentment in the back of her mind towards her for all

of that, for the comments that she probably made about something about her. Because, I mean, that's what LVP does. Whenever anybody else is starting a business, she always has a couple of comments about it every time every single time because she has successful businesses and that's just how she operates and she always wants to throw some shade on the show so i i don't really blame ariana or i don't really question why she would have some sort of shade towards her i don't know i'm not questioning i'm just curious like did something happen that we're not privy to is lvp behind the scenes maybe lvp's mad because aryana's already told her and told bravo she's not coming back oh interesting maybe lvp's a little pissed about that and gave her a little bit of shit

i like that idea that's not bad that's my theory We get to Lala and Sandoval, and Andy asks, did it make you want to step back from Lala, having seen how close she was getting to Tom and how they were pretty much mending this friendship? This is where you find out, Ariana has not seen the season at all. Now, two ways to look at this.

One, I do not blame her because she probably doesn't want to relive all this shit. She's moving on with her life. Two, and you could argue that this is what some of the cast members are frustrated with is that's part of your job coming into the reunion is to know what's been going on. Right. So I don't really feel any way about it one way or the other. Like it's kind of a non thing for me, but at the same time from a show perspective, not watching anything and then coming to the reunion is a bold decision. It's a bold decision, but I secretly love it. Not very secretly anymore because I just said it. But I do love it because we'll get more reactions. And again, we know that they do show that final scene for everybody to watch.

And that's going to make heads roll. And obviously, it's going to pit Ariana and Lala against each other. I just hate and we could see it right away when it started. Lala is trying to do this whole unbiased thing where we watched her the entire time and she was pushing for a Tom redemption. Every time. Now all of a sudden it's, well, I'm going to go after Tom a little bit here. And I'm going to show you this and that.

And it's funny to try to view it from a time. Ariana's eyes, this is the Lala that we've seen all year. Lala was very supportive. And Lala in this moment tells Ariana, I feel like I've been pretty forthcoming and pretty up front with you. You haven't. Not at all. And if Ariana had watched the show, she would know that you haven't.

So it's funny because now she's saying, oh wow. Yeah, Lala, you have been pretty forthcoming. And I just watched you attacked Tom earlier. So you're still on my side in her mind. Maybe she knows a little bit more than she's leading on. I'm not really sure. But Lala's trying to do this now to try to, I guess, make

up for all the fucking messy producing shit that she did all year. I don't know what her angle is on this, but she's always got an angle. She definitely has an angle here. I'm not sure what it is, and it's funny that Ariana's the one that makes the Lala was transparent all season, and I really respected that. And we're

watching home going, ooh, she was not. Not even kind of, but you're about to find out shortly. You just watch one of her confessionals, and you'd realize, no, she's not. Yeah, not even a little. Summer's here, and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. What do we by almost. Well, you can't get a

well-groom lawn delivered, but you can get a chicken parmesan delivered. A cabana? That's a no. But a banana, that's a yes. A nice tan, sorry, nope. But a box fan, happily yes. A day of sunshine? No. A box of fine wines? Yes. Uber Eats can definitely get you that. Get almost, almost

anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol and select markets. Product availability may vary by Regency app for details. Oh, hi, buddy. Who's the best? You are. I wish I could spend all day with you instead. Uh, Dave, you're off mute.

Hey, happens to the best of us. Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers. Goldfish have short memories. Be like goldfish. Bank more oncores when you switch to a Scotia Bank banking package. Learn more at scotiabank.com slash banking packages. Conditions apply. But we get to the Katie and Lala drama, which is the main focus of this episode.

And the root of the issue seems to be that they were close, but they were also getting closer with other people, i.e. Sheena and Lala were getting closer. And Katie wasn't cool with Sheena. And I guess some shit was talked in the DMs. This part I got to see the DM. Yeah, I know. Where's the receipts? That's why anytime they don't show receipts and somebody doesn't pull their phone out and show us. I question it. I don't believe it. I question it every time. And Lala's saying, well, you said to get rid of your lawyers and what you need is a therapist, you clown. And Lala's framing it as though Katie was coming after her custody battle. Which, no.

Even when you phrase it that way, I can tell you right now Katie's not coming after your custody battle. No, it didn't make a whole lot of sense. This was Lala threatening to sick her lawyers on everybody. Is that what you think it was? What she was doing, yeah. Oh, remember any time that somebody said anything about Lala, it was a year or two ago, anytime that somebody said anything about Lala, she always threatened her. lawyers. That's a good point. Yeah, it's just, it's in, it's in stride with everything that was going on.

So yeah, I believe that Katie said almost that verbatim, but it had nothing to do with your custody battle. No, I don't think she, Katie, she goes low. She definitely goes low. Could I see her doing that, like, in a superheated moment, potentially? But I, I didn't get that from that statement. Oh, and I, again, if you're going to pull this out, let's see the DM. Yep. Let's see the receipt. Show us some receipts. But the big drama that we saw between the two of them throughout the season was, you know, at dinner, Katie was getting, or that was at the apartment. Katie was frustrated because Lala constantly, constantly will compare any situation to her own past. And what Katie was saying is you might have had that experience, but everybody is different. So for you to try to label it a certain

way, you don't know how Ariana is feeling about this whole thing. Not everything's the same. That's what she was saying, which is a very valid point. And Lala's like, well, you jump down my throat. And now they start to get a little bit heated. And this should have been Ariana's, like, first hint that things weren't really on the up and up when it came to Lala, because now a little bit more starts coming to light. Now she starts trying to throw Katie under the bus. And all I got from this was Lala's trying to attack Ariana and Katie's friendship.

That's exactly what I saw, too. I think that she's trying to knock Katie down a peg because she sees how strong their friendship is. And she's painting this whole, well, I'm being very transparent with Ariana and you're not. Now, that is a mistake by Katie to be talking to Lala behind closed doors or outside of the cameras and venting a little bit. Now, it's Lala. She's going to spin anything that you say and use it for her own agenda, whether it's for the show or just because she's a shitty person. That's what she's going to do. And that's really what we saw pretty much the whole time. And I pegged it the same way. I figured that this was Lala trying to throw a wedge in between Katie and

Ariana by saying things that Katie had said behind closed doors. That's really all I saw. Yeah, and she gets on her high horse again where it's like, we've done this show for 11 years, and it's all about being forthcoming and speaking your truth. And you told me behind closed doors and a private conversation that you were pissed at Ariana because she's not paying her half of the rent, and she left you high and dry to go on tour and this and that. She made all of these allegations of her just dragging Ariana. What I imagine happened is they had a conversation. She was probably frustrated because you could tell that Katie got a little stuck for a second.

Sure, yeah. She got a little frazzled there. What I imagine happened was she was going to Broadway. She didn't get a heads up there. She lets that be known to everybody on the audience. She's like, yeah, would I have liked more of a heads up there? Sure. What I imagine happened was she was venting to Lala because she was frustrated in the moment.

Yeah, she's gone now. I'm left with this fucking store. We're not open yet. She was late on rent this one month, maybe, because she just didn't... It's not that she didn't have the funds, clearly, after all the brand deals she's done. So I think it was just two friends and you're venting about the third friend, which happens. I don't think she expected it to be used against her, which is her mistake, knowing Lala, as you just pointed out. But Lala doubles down and just now she starts attacking Katie personally and says, well, I just felt abandoned by you this season.

It's like, well, why? like what led to feeling that way and Katie's like because I didn't jump on the Tom train that's it is it the wedge that was driven between you this season was because you were on the Tom's sympathy train and Katie was not giving an inch because she said last year as you also said Lala as you also said sheena that if this happens to you you burn the bridge between you and Sandoval you get rid of him and never allow him back in the hold you went back on that because you're overproducing for the show and now you're panicking because you know it's going to come out that you're not actually behind Ariana. You don't actually have her back.

You're actually trying to throw her under the bus. And you're waiting for that bomb to drop. So you're trying to do your due diligence before it happens to break up the friendship between Katie and Ariana so that you don't have to go against both of them because you know you're going to lose this battle because you've said too much. Yeah. And I think that's exactly what she's trying to do. She's trying to pull Katie down to the rest of the cast level when that bomb drops of everybody's jealous of Ariana. Yes. And you're no better, Katie.

That's really all it is. It's going to come out at some point. Obviously, that last scene is going to play. Everybody's going to have their moment to start talking about how they were jealous of Ariana. Ariya is going to flip out a little bit probably because people are just painting her as some villain that's up and leaving the show and everybody's jealous of her. And Katie's no better than that because of what she said behind closed doors in a little vent session. No, that's not what happened here. And I think that's what Lala is trying to do is say, look, Katie, you're complaining about Ariana too.

She's bigger than the show. She's moving on. We don't need her anymore. And then Ariana just has no one. That's her goal. That's not going to happen. And she wrote this line down somewhere in the middle of the season and saved it for the reunion, thinking that it was going to be a fucking slam dunk. And she's like, well, you fuck with my business.

I'm going to fuck with yours. Something about her, more like nothing about her. Yeah. Mike drop. Nah. Boo. Didn't really hit. Nope.

Didn't hit. Wasn't great. And just a poor showing by Lala. Honestly, like, if you know that this shit's about to come out, I don't know why you felt like you needed to be the director of this reunion. She was talking the entire time. Any time someone else had a comment, she was breaking down what they were saying for everybody else. Well, yeah, no, this and that. It's like, dude, you, like, that's why I thought she needed a good job.

She would chime in, pullback. And the points that she made throughout the episode were pretty solid. So she had a decent showing. Lala, very poor showing. I have a feeling it's going to get worse. It's going to get worse. And I'm already afraid because we had that little. snippet where Lala and Sheena both bought houses in the Valley.

Which, by the way, neither of you can afford those houses without Scandival, so you should be happy that you're not Ariana going through all of this when she gets all of these things because you get to reap the benefits without having to go through all of that. You get to go buy a nice new house in the Valley. And again, if this shows over, where the fuck are you living in the Valley? You're going to ruin a shell. They're going to ruin the Valley. And we're actually recording two episodes this evening.

we're about to do The Valley, which again, fucking fantastic TV. Another great episode, but all in all, as far as reunions go, not terrible. I thought there was enough there to sink our teeth into. I'm actually looking forward to the second one or the third one. I'm not looking forward to both because only one's going to be the hitter. You think? Sometimes they do the second one, and the third one is just like, oh, what are we watching episode. You might be right.

I'm not. I'm wrong. I don't even want to, yeah. That's not speculating. let's not yeah that's just wait wait wait don't speculate wait wait wait let's get into some questions is that our theme song for questions now there is there's a lot of uh who the fuck does la la think she is in here so that at least tells us that the fans are on to the right track here yep good call there for everybody who said that on the right track on to the right track

whatever whatever it doesn't really matter i was reading and talking at the same time same diff Same diff. And, yeah, we already addressed the Brock and Lala potentially hooking up. Don't think it actually happened. I don't think it did either. But understand why you would say that. Let's go with... From exactly with Z-A-C-H in the middle, so I'm assuming this is from Zach,

did Katie betray Ariana when venting the Lala, or was Lala making a bigger deal than it is? I don't think it's betrayal. I think that she was frustrated and vented to a friend, assuming that it wouldn't go anywhere else. I don't think that it was this big backstabbing moment. No, I think that Katie showed her true colors throughout the season by relentlessly defending Ariana at every turn. She never faltered.

So I think this was just a moment where she was frustrated, vented, and it wasn't deeper than that. From S. Santini, do you think Lisa Vanderpump is more sympathetic to the men on the show versus the women? I do. actually. Yeah, weirdly enough, I definitely do. And you can even take it back to the,

why are you crying? Is it because you're pregnant comments? Yeah, it's strange. But meanwhile, like when Sandoval's got crocodiles here, she's like, he's so upset last year. Yeah. So, yeah, I do agree with that. From It's Sin,

who was the best dressed woman and man at the reunion? Let's hear at Fashion Bros. I think Katie was the best dressed on the women's side. Yep. I agree with that. Men? James looks James looks...

James looks stellar, right? Yeah, he looks stellar. I really like that too. Kennedy Kennedy. Kennedy said it. Yeah, James, James did it well. Good, we're on the same page. Look at that.

We look, fashionistas. From Pris underscore 91, how do we feel about Lala implying she's acting like this for the show and lost touch? Do you think that she's just been acting like this for the show for so long that now it's becoming her personality?

I think there's always been like, she's always been kind of like this. Yeah, I think she's, if anything, she's just getting better at activities. I think it's a played up version, but no, I think this is, yeah, I think that's her. Yeah. From Daria underscore PNG, why does Lala dig at James and he's still on her side? Because they are forever and always in love with each other. That's a good way to put it.

That's true. Pretty simple. And we'll do one more here just because of it. I think the first part of this question is really funny from Stephanie underscore Muse. Sandoval came off as an entitled brat. Do you see a path forward for him?

On this show, if there's another season, yes, he's going to be on the show. Do I, like, the path forward is hard to say, like, in what regard? Like, there's a path forward with other people on this show. Yeah, there's a path forward with the saddest reality show ever, the Tom's move into it.

Yeah. Like, yes, unfortunately, he has brought a lot of viewers to Bravo. So I imagine they will exhaust every single resource they have with Sandoval before cutting them loose. That's just how this game goes. Yeah, but there's no path forward for them being a good person. No, and like ever a path forward with Ariana?

Absolutely not. No, definitely not. But I mean, yes. Path forward, bravo-wise, yeah, for sure. Yeah. No milk them. I got, Neffles getting milk me, Greg. Meet the parents reference to finish it out.

Oh, yeah. But that's all I got. You got anything? Now, let's gear up for the valley. And again, like I said, it's a solid, solid first parter. It wasn't terrible. So I'm looking forward to one of these next two ones when we get the big, the heavy hitting episode.

One of them's going to be a total dud as three partners tend to be, but one of them should hit. So I'm excited for that one. And then we can get to the off season of Vanderpump, which I'm actually excited about, to see what the fuck the next step is. God, we're going to feel so dumb if Ariana is coming back and they're doing another season and we were wrong about everything.

Hey, it happens I just don't want I really don't want that to happen because this show would They need to shift it They need to Because this wasn't awesome I mean that

But here's the problem Is ratings Yep People watch So it's hard to say It's really hard to say But other than that Rob Brose are out of here

Later Hey Michael Hey Tom You want to tell him Or you want me to tell them No no no I got this People out there

People out there Yeah. People, lean in, get close, get close. Listen, here's the deal. We have big news. We got monumental news. We got snack, tactical news. Yeah, after a brief hiatus, my good friend, Michael Ian Black, and I are coming back. My good friend, Tom Kavanaugh and I are coming back to do what we do best. What we were put on this earth to do. To pick a snack. To eat a snack. And to rate a snack. Mentifically? Emotionally, spiritually. Mates is back. Mike and Tom eat snacks. is back. A podcast for anyone with a mouth.

With a mouth. Available wherever you get your podcasts. Goodbye. Summer movies, Hello Fall. I'm Anthony Devaney. And I'm his twin brother, James. We host Raiders of the Lost Podcast, the Ultimate Movie Podcast, and we are ecstatic to break down late summer and early fall releases. We have Leonardo DiCaprio leading a revolution in one battle after another, Timothy Shalamey playing power ping pong in Marty Supreme. Let's not forget Emma Stone and Jorgos Lanthamos' Bougonia. Dwayne Johnson, he's coming for that Oscar

in The Smashing Machine, Spike Lee and Denzel teaming up again, plus Daniel DeLuiss's return from retirement. There will be plenty of blockbusters to chat about two. Tron Aries looks exceptional, plus Mortal Kombat 2, and Edgar writes, The Running Man, starring Glenn Powell. Search for Raiders of

The Lost Podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify, and YouTube.