Bros & Shows - Does Marysol Want a Mojito? (RHOM Reunion Finale)

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

What's up Bros? Miami has officially come to an end. While this episode was more filler than anything, all in all it was a great season. Lisa and Larsa finish hashing out their nonsense and at the end of the day, end up making up. Stephanie has some issues with Marysol. Lisa airs out her issues with the lack of sympathy she got from the group in regards to her dad. She actually makes a few good points about how she isn't ever allowed to discuss her issues. Kiki and Adriana discuss cake gate and the wretched, ratchet scenario. And there are more than a few references about Marysol coveting a mojito... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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But all at all, I would say that's a pretty solid season of ROM. Yeah, pretty solid season of ROM. We are not in the business of judging an entire season on the last reunion episode. No. This episode seemed redundant is a word that comes to mind. Unnecessary also comes to mind. But you know what? I'm not going to hold it again.

shows i gotta have me my pros and shows bros and shows bros and shows i gotta have me my bros and shows good evening everybody welcome back to another episode of bros and shows i'm your co-host steel russell joined as always by the one and only for the last time this season south beach magutes what's up dude not a whole lot over here um let me just let me just summarize my last week was wonderful because I acted as if I was sick all week, so I got the work from home, and that was fantastic for both myself and the podcast because we had plenty of time to do stuff.

Then I was living the partially retired lifestyle today and played some golf, although it is 35-mile-an-hour winds. So my face feels like it's on fire. I, what was the... You know what? It feels like I fought at the Battle of the Bulge today. That's what I think. My body feels like that.

That's how I feel. So, yeah, I, uh, what do I feel interesting? And I'm ready to tackle some Miami. And like we said in the, uh, the cold intro, this episode was, um, I, I don't really think this was necessary. I think that this is, it was a very good season. And again, I'm not going to hold it against Miami as a season. And we rarely hold reunions accountable unless the season sucks.

And then the reunion tries to make up for it. That's the only time that reunions really come into play for me. For this, it, this was the quintessential. We did not need three full episodes. This is the quintessential. Let's milk every last view out of this season because people are going to watch just in case. And, yeah, I mean, like you said, it's no reason to put a damper on what we watched this season. Because they did a great job.

The cast, I would say all in all, everybody brought it. We obviously had some ebbs and flows as we always do. Adriana was out for me. And now she's back in. So that's cool. Good for her. That was all reunion oriented. So nice job, Adriana.

But, yeah, I thought that what we're getting with this cast, and I feel like we talked about this with Roslick, you know, knowing you're in the glory days during the glory days because did we hit the peak after that last episode of Roslick? Is it now just downhill from here? I think what we got with this cast, and I think we need to enjoy it a lot for the next two, three years. And I think Roslick's in a similar place if they stay with the same cast. it's like think at the peak times of your favorite OG franchises.

I think we're there with a couple of these shows. I'm not saying that these are as good as I'm not going to play that game because people are going to get mad at me. I'm simply saying they are firing on all cylinders consistently. We have a cast that enjoys being around each other for the most part. If they have issues, they are able to move past those issues, which is something that we harp on a lot. So between Miami and Salt Lake,

Like, we have two phenomenal shows that I think the cast on each have kind of found their sweet spot. And I think that because of that, I don't want to jinx it. But because of that, I think we can look forward to a couple years of this. You know, the only addition I would add to Miami is Dr. Nicole. I know I just jinxed it. Yeah. No, I'd say it's not even a jinx. It's just very funny when you, and I'm sure a lot of people have listened to our Salt Lake episode by now.

now they're listening to this, the two best housewife franchises, you would imagine we're just kind of soaking it all in, just enjoying ourselves. We're actually warning you. Remember the good times because we're in the good times. They're going to pass us by.

We're going to get to a point where all the people on this cast annoy us. They're doing the same tropes. It's going to come at some point, as long as we can stave that off for a couple more years, I'll be happy. And I will try my hardest in a couple years

when that happens inevitably to remind myself about the good times and about the times that we reminded you to soak it all in and just enjoy yourself because this doesn't last very long and look I think with the cast in particular I my vote right now is just run it back I don't really care I don't think you need to make any tweaks or changes honestly I think that some people will learn like I think that a julia will learn with all of the people online bashing her for the season bashing martina for her outlook when she's on Twitter. I think that she'll be able to rain it in and change a couple of things.

Nobody else really needs to change anything. And the other thing with this, they didn't need to make any changes after last year. Like, yes, you lost Dr. Nicole, but you guys knew that was going to happen anyway. She probably told you well ahead. And you added Stephanie. And that could have been a huge swing and a miss. And I'm not saying she was a home run higher, but she was a double at the least. Like, it was an RBI double and it worked out really well. That doesn't mean that you need to change anything else. That doesn't mean we need to bring in another new person or another one of Lars's friends because Larsa doesn't feel with anybody. Don't do any of those things. Just run it back with what it is. And if

Dr. Nicole wants to come back this year or next year, then bring her back. Just let her have an open door to get her back in the door or rather to get her back in the house, I guess, because the door's open. Let her back in. Then Gertie can have a friend if she lasts those two seasons. I'm assuming Dr. Nicole might not be coming back next year, but if she comes back the year after, that'll work out really well. And it's a familiar face that we all know. And it won't change too much. The dynamic is good right now. I don't want Bravo to get happy feet. That's what I don't want. And I think this is a good test for that between these two shows, right? Miami specifically, honestly, I don't think Roslick's going to change it all because

that's a clear home run since we're using baseball terms. Miami, I still feel like they're trying to figure it out. But I just want to shake Bravo and be like, you did it. You done, figured it out. Now just leave it alone. Leave it alone and he'll focus on the other franchises. that are like floundering like why would you not just leave these alone like yes so you've got the producing teams that you have in each you know respected city whatever but leave them alone and then go move on to a beverly hills and have a shake up there figure out what the fuck you're going to do with uh with new jersey because i have no idea what they're going to do and i keep hearing reports that they're doing this they're doing that and they're starting to film

this and whatever figure that shit out figure out roney don't worry about these two at least for now you're going to have to worry about them in a couple years because people are going to get bored and tired and whatever, but don't worry about them right now. Go focus on the other franchises or else housewives are still going to continue to fall. Speaking of which, they announced Robha December 4th or 14th, something like that. Yeah. That came out today. And I'm just going to say this.

The comments and stuff, like there's clearly some accounts that have relationships with people from Beverly Hills. because the faux excitement, I'm like, come on, you can't be gassed up for that season. There's just no way. I know it's a state. That happens with every franchise. Even when Roney, the new version of Roney was coming back for a second season, there were people saying, I'm so excited to see what you guys are going to bring. We all knew it was going to be trash.

At the end of New Jersey, we knew that was going to be trash, and there's still people in the comments. So, like, that never gives me anything. Trailers usually give me a little bit of hope, but they know. never end up playing out how you think they're going to play out. I think, I'm going to say it right now, I think we're in for a grueling season of Robha. I don't care what Rachel Zoe is going to bring to the table. I don't think it's going to be nearly enough to actually fix that franchise.

I think it's going to be awful. So really looking forward to it, guys. Yeah, super stoked for that to come back. And we've had such a good run. Maybe that's it. You know what it is? It's our last episode of Miami. And we were excited about Miami.

me. It was a very good season. Now it's over and all we have is Roslick. And yeah, Potomac's been incredible the first couple of episodes, but I don't know how long that's going to last. We've had some issues of that in the past. We just see there's a cliff somewhere ahead. And there are multiple signs and it says Rabha ahead or objects in the mirror may be closer than they appear and it's just like Kyle's face. That's pretty much we have going on right now. Yeah. So look, we're despite this. intro we're in a good place yeah we're just i think uh the i think you nailed it the reality of miami being done now i'm looking forward to what's next i'm like oh no but hey well

there's a silver lining so i was actually going to talk to you about this off air uh i have found for fourth wall break yeah yeah you can see what means he'll talk about i have found a new way to crack my neck and i might actually like end up paralyzing myself at some point. But if that happens before Robha comes out, then what am I going to do? Actually, no, that would be worse. If you paralyze yourself? Yeah.

All right. So let me just run. No, no, no. I've got a homilera. Okay. You're saying that hopefully this new way of cracking your neck breaks your neck so you don't have to watch Beverly Hills. No, I'd still have to watch it.

I realize that there's definitely an error. Now you're just paralyzed you're talking about it. Then all I can do is watch Beverly Hills, and that sounds awful. Yeah. Yeah. This took a weird turn. Yeah, if there's any chiropractors out there, I'll explain how I do it. I use a foam roller and I roll my back out, and then at the end, I just put it under my neck

and push my neck forward, and it just goes pop, pop, pop, at the top of my spine. So it could be good. I think that's fine. From, I'm not. God, it feels so good. Don't quote me on that, and nobody out there trying it. I do believe that's probably okay. If you break your neck, it's not on me.

And yeah, I will still make you watch the shows, assuming you can still talk. So anyway, despite this intro, we are at a good place, like I said. And let's dive into the Miami reunion. We also wanted to kill some time because not a lot happened. As we said earlier, this was more of the same that we've gotten. It was like a wrap-up episode, but they were trying to throw some wrinkles in there that didn't really do anything for me and probably not for anybody at home. But I'm not going to fault them simply because it was a great season. They did their job.

The first two episodes of this reunion were bangers, again, talking about things that were a little crazy. But let's jump into this one. We start out with the conclusion of last week where we're bringing up Lisa in Milan. And Larsa obviously said, well, if your dad has a week to live, what the hell are you doing here? A sentiment that many of us at home also resonated with. now I thought that Lisa as she did this season as well I thought she handled herself pretty well here and I actually think she brought up some good points because one you know if your dad would have wanted you now I know if I was in that state I would want my family to go live their life I don't

need you waiting for me to die like go do something happy so that was a good response and then to take it a step further and she's completely right and I think that we were so busy looking for Lenny content that when it didn't come up, we're like, oh, wow, she didn't talk about Lenny. But then you take that a step further. And you mentioned it a couple of times during the season where she should be able to talk about something pretty serious in her life. Yeah. She didn't talk about anything.

She had a lot of shit going on. And on top of that, not one person really went to her and was like, hey, how are you doing after your father died? Yeah. You can even take it a step further. And we made a lot of jokes about her travel when she missed the plane. And then she had to go to London, then Spain, and then drive down. And it was a whole nightmare.

She didn't even talk about that. Like anything that came to her personal life or any hurdles that she had to get over or any sort of issues that she had or grievances. She kind of held it in. Like now that I'm really thinking about it, going all the way back to the narcissist party, a lot of people pointed her out for a lot of different things. And yeah, a lot of it was talked about that it was, you know, an issue with Alexia and was it a Todd party. but really what it ended up being was it was non-slaught on Lisa for a lot of those and she didn't really lash out at anybody

she didn't really talk to anybody about it she just kind of sat there and took it and that's pretty much what she did all year and now that she brings this up in this light yeah I get it anytime that she like I yeah the Lenny stuff got annoying but we've seen a lot of divorces on these shows and a lot of people do it for season after season after season

to the point where we don't want to hear about it anymore unless there's an update with her she lasted one season like that was actually a pretty quick divorce in the bravo world and she talked about it a normal amount and they just jumped down her throat every time and yeah maybe there was more you know behind the scenes that we didn't see maybe she was texting people about it all the time putting it on facebook or facebook jesus instagram maybe she wouldn't be a myspace zanga um yeah maybe she was doing those things i don't know but i it to me it didn't seem like she was overdoing it

It was just kind of annoying content, but I get it. So, yeah, I don't really blame her for taking a step back and saying, what do you want me to do? You guys jumped at me for talking about Lenny last year. The first time that I mentioned my dad's in hospice and he's got a week or two to live, Larsa jumps at me. So why am I going to bring it back up? It was kind of funny that she sent a picture of him in the casket to Larsa.

That was a great move. But the rest of it, yeah, I don't blame her for not talking about it because what else is she expecting? And then she does what every housewife does. especially at reunions is you call on past experiences to defend your claim. So of course, Alexia, when your mom passed away, I even threw an event for you, which is kind of strange, but that's, you know, she was, I do believe it was well-intentioned. And everyone showed up to that except for Alexia, which is fine. She was grieving her mom.

She doesn't have to be there. But it's like, here was my support for you. And we've watched across the board on this show specifically when Marisol or Alexia are going through something, whether it be Todd, whether it be the passing of a family member, whatever. Yeah, what about Gertie? Now that I'm thinking, now I'm thinking about everything. Gurney going through your press answer thing.

That got overlooked immediately. Nobody talked about it, except for Larson. If you're on that side of the room, they give a shit. But if you're not on that side of the room, they really don't because let's see, they got Gertie. Marcus, wait a minute, they don't care about anything. When Larsa and Marcus broke up, she made that a whole thing, but she didn't get to talk about it to anybody else.

else. They didn't want to hear it. It's really just when Alexia and Marisol are going through shit. Yeah. I mean, you're, you're kind of right. I would, the Marcus won't throw an asterisk on. I don't think anyone took that seriously. It was serious to Larsa. It's not serious to any of us, but it was serious to her that she needed to talk about it a lot. But even then, people didn't give her the time of day talking. And like, I don't blame them for that one. No, but what they didn't do was tell her to shut up about it. They just kind of rolled their eyes. That's the difference. With Lisa, there's an attack on her if she brings something up with gertie there's an eye roll and oh my god move on like there's a difference in how they're handled i do agree if it's alexia or marisol there tends to be

more attention to it yeah but that's what was interesting as she's going through it because then kiki's like oh we're comparing grief it's like no we're we're using comparisons to say you guys supported each other here but then when i'm going through it now we don't talk about my dad that doesn't make a lot of sense kiki you just had this this is crazy reuniting with your father. We watched it over the span of the season. It was incredible. We actually all really enjoyed seeing that side of you

and getting to know the rest. People were inquisitive about that. They were asking you about it, right? And that could have been a bad situation. It turned into a good situation. But people were asking you how it was going, checking in. Nobody checked on Lisa. I get it.

She's probably annoying as shit, even more so off the screen. But I do think she has a valid argument here in if we're, And you can, like you said, expand this to the rest of the group for a lot of these ladies. If you two are going through something, or you three, let's just say that couch for whatever, that couch is going through something. We talk about it. We address it. We give sympathy.

We throw parties. This side of the room goes through it. You're really annoying. Can you just shut up now? And Alexia literally says that to Lisa. She's explaining. She's like, oh, my God, enough is enough. It's like, no, but she has time to talk about it.

I know. And I think the really funny thing And probably a good response From the other side of the room Lisa leading the charge Would have been going back to the narcissist party Because it was a Todd party I don't care what you're saying

We're now watching the reunion You guys have all watched the season We watched it First episode She sits down with this guy Who's got three books by the way Go out and buy them Three books

Three of them He's got these books About being a narcissist She's talking about Todd the whole time and then says, you know what? This would be great for the rest of the group to get involved with. It was a Todd party.

She copped to it. Yeah, I know. So you copped to it. We had a whole narcissist party about Todd. You had a whole sit down with all of your friends talking about Todd. You had a whole sit down with the whole cast before the season started filming, talking about Todd in your breakup. You have talked about Todd a million times at this point,

probably on par with what she was talking about with Lenny. And you guys were married for what, six months, seven months? she was married to money for like 15 years like what are we doing here i don't really get it so lisa absolutely has a leg to stand on i don't blame her for not going scorched earth although i probably would have because i would have a lot she did she did herself a huge favor by not yes i agree yeah and that's more of the same that's it's almost like she has this conditioned to behavior now because of how they reacted to the all the lenny stuff from the season prior that she's not going to spend a lot of time talking about something, unless it's a full-blown attack.

Like, yes, she's going to defend Jody anytime that you bring him up. If he gets thrown into the middle of something, she's going to defend Jody. That's good. She's a good girlfriend. If you say, and nobody on this cast really says anything about kids, which is good. But if you ever said anything about her kids, yeah, she's going to defend her kids. Everything else, it seems like she's kind of learned, like, I'm not going to bother talking about it with you guys.

I'll talk about it with somebody else. And maybe we'll get that and maybe because she's learned when we start next season she'll be a little closer to somebody like gertie who she can talk to it now you know gerty does tend to talk over people but maybe she'll be able to listen to it or she'll get closer to stephanie because stephanie seems like she might be okay to listen to it so we might just see a little bit of a shift in the alignment which is always good for a show like this yeah i agree and it keeps everything kind of fresh and i think that what we're going to get with lisa moving forward hopefully i'm hoping this is kind of like a lisa barlow esk moment just in

we had that big falling out with Meredith in season three and it transformed Lisa into the LB that we all know and love now. I'm hoping that this season of having to stand on her own two feet, not having the support of the group, seeming like an outcast, I'm hoping that propels her next season into like, okay, I'm going to do my own thing. I think we're going to get the best Lisa out of Lisa if she's venturing down a new path next year. Yeah, that's a good point.

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We'd love to talk, business. We get to Jody texting Larsa. on one about this in a good way because she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, the convenient thing, and this is what we were talking about as well, because we got this story, we never got to know what was going on with the conversation, like what was being said. And we mentioned multiple times, what does the text say? What's going on in these text messages? Who instigated the text messages, which we've heard was Larsa texting Jody initially? Now, should he be sending paragraphs after paragraph back to Larsa for an extended period of time?

No, he should not. But what was the subject matter? And that's so important and that gets glossed over. So Gertie immediately says that. And we just get this whole montage, if you will, of the Jody ship throughout the season, right? Like the elevator where we got cut off by the door, we didn't know what happened on the elevator. And then the AC thing gets brought up, but not before the picture. now the picture i forgot about because remember that big aha moment where they're like well

larsa pulls out her phone because she was saying that in milan he just went crazy and for no reason whatsoever yeah sure she shows this picture it's supposed to be some big smoking gun and it's just jody's face which many of the ladies recanted later and said well his eyes kind of always looked that big so it wasn't actually that crazy what you're trying to do larsa you're trying to imply something along the lines of AC, right? And then by immediately after that picture gets brought up, you bring up the AC, we know what you're doing. And yes, that is fucked up, especially with Jody, who has made it pretty clear, like he's doing this because he loves Lisa. He doesn't want to be on the show. He has no, no inkling to be on the show at all. So he's concerned about

his reputation. He's concerned about his life. You're going and saying that he's doing, quote, unquote AC you're showing this picture and my favorite part of the picture because she brings Julia into and she's like and then you're over there saying I was crap oh well that's a Russian thing yeah what sure whatever she she falls on that all the time I don't really understand that I like Gertie coming to Lisa's defense or rather Joe's defense talking about how hot it was in that apartment that's why he went into the other room I don't really care honestly if he's going to do that he's not really on the show he's a boyfriend he's a you know almost a husband at this point. Who gives a shit?

I honestly, I could care less about his AC habits. I'm incredibly surprised that we didn't get some sort of parallel little connection here. If he was talking about Marcus, talking about the picture of Marcus in the south of France that the paparazzi took when they had to take a picture of Marcus Jordan. I'm surprised that that wasn't brought up. And maybe if he went a little further into the, yeah, you know, Marcus is my friend. we became friends between, like, you and him dating, and what am I supposed to do? Just move on without his friendship anymore.

I think Larsa could have gone to that point. Like, oh, yeah, obviously you guys are friends because you like doing AC, and there's AC in the South France. That was probably in the chamber. I guarantee you that was somewhere in her arsenal. She didn't have to break it out, which I'm kind of happy about this is one of the good things about Larsa. In the moment, it doesn't make a ton of sense, but I get it.

and I like that she's doing something. It just so happens that this particular instance, especially in Milan, was off camera. And then when we're in Spain, it's in the elevator also off camera. So that's kind of weird, and I don't really like that. And I don't think it's a coincidence necessarily,

but it's just stupid. I'm happy that she doesn't hold on to this. She just kind of has it out a little bit here, and then she's done. Like, that's a really good trait for her housewife to have, is to not give a fuck after a certain thing. She's the best at that. Yeah.

And it's very good, too, because she doesn't even really get to the point where we're like, Larsa, shut up. We're just kind of wondering what she's thinking. And before we figure out what she's thinking, she doesn't make a big deal out of it. She just ends it. And I like that.

Yeah, and she's done that in the past and we'll continue to do that. Like, Larsa will have knocked down dragouts where you're like, wow, you can never come back from this. It really only takes either her realizing that she doesn't have any more ammo to use, which is kind of what happened here. She ran out of things. And then she'll reel it in. So she goes, look, of course I'll call Jody.

Anything to make my friend happy on the flip side, if she is just relentless and you come to her with an apology and it seems somewhat genuine, she'll move on every time. And of course we can move on. Of course we can move on. It's like, okay. So that's always an option with Larson. I do like that because there's never a completely closed door when it comes to friendships with her or any sort of issue. you can always resolve things with her she's very good at doing that and again on a show like this where it seems like we've got a lot of lines drawn in the sand she's always kind of open to

whatever repairing friendships that she has to do and i'll always take that i agree so let's get to the trips that we've taken get a nice montage of all the trips i forgot it we went on like three didn't we there's three separate ones it was technically i remember when we did the trailer i'm like fuck they go to milan they go to seville then they're going on a yacht then they're going on a boat trip i don't know what the hell they're doing but whatever budget they have is really working and then it ended up being just lisa and larsie going to milan for a fashion show which again i was fine with but yeah they did go on a few trips uh you know one or two more trips than most franchises do so i was happy about that yeah it's nice to see them you know jet setting if you

will is that intentional uh no that was no pun intended Yeah, jetticate. Yeah, jetticate as we get into the jettiquet portion of the reunion. And the one thing that I can really take from all of this, right, then we'll get to Steph. But this whole reunion from what I can gather, based on the responses, based on her demeanor, and even the tone in which she's speaking, Julia's trying to save her job is all I can gather. because every I think she saved it too. That's the worst part. I do too.

I think she's coming back. But every single thing that happened, she is quote unquote remorseful, apologetic. We're talking about when we get to Seville, Sevia, and the ladies are standing in the lobby. And it's Alexia's trip. This whole thing's for Alexia. And the PJ crew had just been talking about Alexia. Mm-hmm. And the first thing that Julia does is go to Lexia, be like, we were just talking about you.

And of course, that pissed off Stephanie, who was like, I brought you in. I flew you over a year. I thought we were getting closer. Everything was cool. And then all of a sudden, now you're, you're diming us out. And Julie's like, I know, it was really bad. It was just, it was a brain fart. I'm like, you have an answer for every.

I don't believe any of it, but you have an answer for everything that we wanted her to have to answer for. She beat us to the punch with an apology. And it was every detail. And it was everything that we wanted to hold her accountable for. she just apologized for it before we even got into it. And you can tell, I think at some point in this episode or maybe it was the end of last episode when she was apologizing, whoever it was, I think it may have been Gertie, actually

when we were talking about the early season bullshit. She was apologizing saying, you know, and she even did this on social media too. She apologized, said that she got lost in the moment. She just let her anger go too far and she ended up just lashing out and she wishes that she didn't do it. She did it twice. She did it in the reunion and she did it online. both times, I'm like,

Gertie's not really going to accept that apology because you're not fucking taking accountability for anything. You're just saying, oh, my anger got out of line. Like, okay, why did your anger get out of line? Let's get into that. And this is one of those things where it's Julia and she's like a fringe character. So even Andy doesn't care enough to actually ask her to follow up on these things.

She just allows herself to apologize and try to move forward. And I think she probably, because it's Julia, and she's been on the show for a couple of years, she probably just saw a couple people do this. She's like, wow, it really worked out well for them. Maybe I'll try that. And that's what she's doing now. I mean, I think it worked.

Like, she's coming back, you know. So it is what it is. I'd be surprised if she isn't coming back at this point. It's just a vibe. It's just a feel. And obviously, we've had a lot of bombshells in the past where we didn't see somebody getting the acts and they ended up not coming back and we've never seen them again. But with this, I don't know what it is.

I just get the feeling that she's going to be coming back just based on the way she was talking and the way that everybody was kind of receiving her words. Well, I think a big part of it for me was based on what's going on currently social media-wise with Martina. Yeah. I think that was a big portion of, ooh, I can't imagine Andy's going to co-sign having her back. Like, that's pretty fucked up. But she went and spoke out against it. Like that was another box that she checked by saying, I told Martina, I'm not cool with any of that.

So she, it's literally like she had a list of like, okay, I need to apologize for this, take accountability. not taking accountability, acknowledge that this is a thing and apologize for this. And that's just what she's doing because nothing she's saying has any weight to it. There's no substance to it whatsoever. It's just, oh, I'm sorry for that too. Oh, and I'm also sorry for that. What else and that too? That's all we've seen out of us.

Is there anything else I can be sorry for? Anybody? Because I will. I don't know anything. Nope. I'll look. I'm handing out apologies like candy right now. It's Halloween season.

Come on. Let's go. That's the vibe that I got from it. But the question we had all season. after it happened and I still do really and we don't really get an answer which isn't surprising we did get an interesting comment out of Marisol that I think has a lot more weight to it than than it seems but the fact that Marisol noralexia flew to Marbea for that whole thing like that was a big standout moment for us because we're like oh see they don't actually like you that much and to further that because of course other people in the room are making I think Gertie says something about besties like oh yeah your besties weren't even there for you Marisol says, not my bestie. We're just getting to know each other. Like, ah, there it is.

Yep. That's such a small thing, but it shows you that. Yeah, because, Julia, you're still down here. Okay, you didn't crack the group. You just were fun to hang out with for the season. And we called it a long time ago. We didn't see it this season. But we said there was going to be a moment, like a fallout moment.

I don't think that we've negated that. I think that's still very plausible in the future. No, she's absolutely going to do something in the next season that's going to piss one of them off. I think she got close to pissing off Alexia this year, but she will do something because Julia always puts her foot in her mouth. I don't know what the situation is going to be, but they're going to just immediately remove themselves from her. That's what's going to end up happening. I'm still pissed that when it comes to Alexia and Marisol staying behind and not going to the Godfather's house, that they didn't just fucking say, we were in.

Spain and we wanted to just hang out and take a day away from everybody. I know the producers are never going to let them do it, but they're best friends. They were over in a cool city. They probably just wanted to get away from all the bullshit and go walk around and actually have a good time because that's what we all saw and that's what we all know that they were trying to do. I like and can appreciate the fact that they spun it into a whole story about how they weren't feeling respected by Stephanie and they felt like they were being threatened

and kicked off the plane or whatever. That's kind of funny because it ruffles enough feathers. if they came clean on this, it would have been the most like, of course, moment of all time. And we all know that's what they were doing. Just come out and say it. Just be truthful.

I think it's funny too. I circled that quote from Marisol talking about Julia. That is going to lead to an issue. Julia is not the type of person that's going to look at that and be like, hmm, maybe they're not as close to me as I thought. She's going to look at it and say,

I need to get closer. They still have me on the outside, but I need to get closer. She's going to work hard in the offseason. Yeah, that's actually probably the best prediction made thus far. And that could also end up biting her in the ass, which would be interesting to see. That'll be what I'm most focused on as we get into next season, just seeing what that dynamic kind of looks like because I'm really curious.

And again, Marisol, that one sentence speaks volumes there. But during this whole exchange, Stephanie gets activated and screams at the group. Can I talk for a damn second? now she's a little confused as to what the hoop law was about if you will because she's like are the rules really that but it's not about the rules it never was about the rules like yeah it's annoying that you keep talking about jettiquette it wasn't about the rules it comes down to that moment where you sat down with alexia and marisol and whomever else was there and you talked about leaving people off of the plane that's where the problem is now a very important part of that Alexia was on board okay she was cool with the whole plan Marisol was not she was the one that was visibly like oh I don't like this Alexia was all in and she wasn't giving a whole lot but she also wasn't saying a whole lot she was just kind of going along nodding her head she got back to the room with Marisol that night and I'm sure Marisol was like oh my god can you believe that

and Alexia was like oh yeah no that sucks I'm not cool with that and flip the script on her That's what happened. That's absolutely what happened. We saw that happen in real time while we watched Marisol completely just ignore everybody else at the table, look away, started like immediately sighing and just drinking her drink and trying to get away from the whole thing. It made her feel weird. And I get that because it was really weird that they were sitting there drawing a seating chart talking about how they might have to leave somebody there and have to take a three hour ride back. Yeah, get a taxi. You're not coming back on my plane.

Alexi agreed with all of those things. Marisol didn't. So it's an easy assumption to make that Marisol's calling the shots when it comes to Alexia and Marisol. I don't think it goes as far as maybe some people want to make it out to be. I think that the line of questioning after this was a little bit too much. But I think that when you're doing the weight on this, yeah, if Marisol goes to Alexia and says, we're not doing that, they're not going to do it. If Alexia goes to Marisol and says, we're not doing that, they're going to talk about it. And then they probably still won't end up doing it. It is pretty evenly split. But I think that Marisol's way more critical when it comes to these things, as Alexia is more, just kind of go with the flow

and see what happens. And then at the last second, she could drop out. Yes, agreed. Agreed. But I mean, it wraps up. Nothing really happens. Like, we make the twin joke yet again. Yeah, we go back to the wretched and ratchet thing. Like, this was when I was just perplexed. Like, didn't we already do this for a long period of time in the second and the end of the first episode? No. Okay. We're just going to do it again. Yeah. And I think, I, don't think she meant to say wretched but i also don't think she knows what ratchet meant yes that's that's the answer right there it's not a gray area it's not it could be somewhere in between it's exactly what you just said that's exactly what happened she meant to say she did not mean to say wretched because

nobody uses that word we have footage of mariselle saying you meant to do that we didn't do enough on the blackmail part of this and i do think that this is probably something that marisole's done a lot over the seasons that she's been on the show. We should have hammered more into that. I don't know why we didn't. I think it's kind of funny that she did it and it didn't end up working obviously because you can't make a deal with somebody like Adriana. But we didn't spend enough time

on that and said we went back to wretched ratchet. It's just, I don't know what happened there. It just seemed like such a miss. And I don't know how we got back to that point. I don't either. I mean, it was Kate Gate because we hadn't talked about the age yet, which obviously brings up the wretched ratchet comment. And now

after seeing the whole season like yeah kiki was trying to be shady there's there's just no way yeah it was not good what was that it was well yeah i mean i did feel some type of way about this whole thing and i did want to take a dig at you i didn't realize that an age joke was going to be so much to hurt you it's like what do you mean have you ever listened to a talk and you made an age joke so you wanted to make it hurt but not it was it was too much and you didn't realize it was that much like i didn't get it all like all i got from it was it did exactly what you wanted it to do yeah and you took a shot at her which is fine it's not that deep i i do think it's crazy to say you didn't know considering

she talks about this not just this season she talks about it a lot seasons prior this is a sticking point for her do i believe that the last birthday party she had was her kinsenietta no No, no. But that's such an Adriana thing. I haven't had a birthday since I was 15. It's like, okay, sure. Sure. But Kiki definitely did it on purpose.

And again, like we're at the point now in this episode where it's like, all right, we're just trying to get to 50 minutes. We're just trying to do anything we can to get to that point. But the one thing that comes out of it, and this is, I'm glad this came up because, and I don't think it landed whatsoever on Adriana. but she doesn't even register that she's so upset about the age comments that people call her old, whatever. It's like, okay, well, what about when you're screaming to Marisol from yacht to yacht calling her old, her old bonie knees or whatever? All of those mean things you said to her, your plight of ageism really falls flat considering how you talk to the other women. Yeah. I mean, are we surprised?

No, but to a certain extent, kind of at this juncture where it's like, dude, they've said it throughout the season, they brought this up. We're sitting at the reunion now bringing it up. Marisol is considering surgery on her knees, which I actually believe. I think she did get surgery. Somebody said that she, you know how on Instagram you could do that weird thing that I think is very stupid when you go to your DMs and at the top, somebody's got like a status. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like a way message or like a status update or whatever. Yeah. Marisol did that. said got surgery on my knees. But she put it up like right after this episode aired. So I don't know if she did. But it's kind of funny that she's leaning into it this far.

Yeah, I love that she's leaning. And she should lean into it. But again, Adriano would do herself a lot of favors if in moments like this, because this is not the only thing that she could be like, like snap out of it and realize you do similar things. It would do her a lot of favors because every argument she makes after that is like, all right, well, it's irrelevant because of how you treat other people. You say the same thing.

No one holds you to the fire when you say it because they don't want to deal with you. But then when you're going through it, the entire party shifts because your attitude and demeanor is completely different. It ruins the vibe. You need people to give you sympathy all the time. But then you're going to go say an age joke. So it's- We have probably pointed out hypocrisy with age. Rihanna, not us, but people at the reunion, people on the cast have tried to do it.

We've seen it happen so many times. She never gets it. It just goes right over her head and she goes right back to talking about what she wants to. And if you say anything otherwise, she will be mean again and do exactly what she thinks is mean to her. So it's just, it's a cycle with her. We're never actually going to be able to get through. She's one of the weird people that I truly believe it's not getting through. There are a lot of people that ignore the signs.

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And, you know, Larsa gives bizarre explanations of, look, I was going through a tough time and I needed Lisa. So you took it out on Jody? Okay, that makes a lot of sense. But everyone in there agrees we can move on from this whole thing. Larsa admits that she was at fault, which was kind of shocking. Kind of big. Gertie goes through her journey with therapy and everything and a health update.

You know, she's doing great, which is awesome. She's getting her groove back, as she says. She decided to not do the reconstructive surgery because she accepts what she looks like. And I think a big part of that is the support from Russell. And I loved hearing the ladies give Russell his flowers. They're like, he's a great guy. He's like he is a great guy. We love that guy.

Well done, Russell. And it takes me to the one topic that was kind of interesting because we go, Julie and her daughters, that whole thing. I think they're going to be fine, whatever. But the big thing I want to talk about, because it's mentioned two or three times, is Marisol's fight to get the mojito, which we've always talked about with her

where it seems like she's happy where she's at. But it does make a whole lot of sense, given the way she moves, learning a lot about it this season via Alexia, thinking that Alexia might have been more of the vocal person and pulling the strings, but find out that Marisol's actually one behind the scenes pulling the strings.

I think she feels some type of way about not being full time. And I think that a big part of who Marisol is and how she moves is because she doesn't have that mojito. And I think she wants that damn mojito. Yeah. I really don't know because I didn't watch. enough of the early seasons i think she did have a mojito season one she got demoted after season two yeah so she got demoted after season two which is when the hiatus started right i thought the hiatus

was after season three yeah that that that's where i'm getting a little lost um i so i don't know it's it's it's one of those things that adriana says that i really could see as being fully true and people just aren't listening or aren't talking about that's almost corroborates with her claim of a nameless friend of got a private investigator to try and get her a mojito by digging up some shit on the people. Yeah. So I wouldn't be surprised if that's who it was. I don't know. I can see Marisol doing it just because we've had so many questions about what she's doing in the shadows, what her actual play is when she's talking to Alexia, what they talk about behind closed doors, why she seemingly has so much power, because that's been a big topic that's kind of gotten

bigger and bigger over the last couple of years. She started off as this like plucky, you know, talk about her cockies all the time when season four started or, you know, whenever the high A's ended. She just kind of seemed right for that role. And maybe that's something that she's doing. Maybe it's all smoke of mirrors where she seems happy. She's good to do this. And now we've seen a little bit of an uptick where she's on the screen a lot.

We just kind of accredit that to Miami's a weird show. There's going to be some friend ofs that gets them one-on-one time. There's going to be some friend ofs. that have family time. It's just kind of how it goes. And we never really question it. But the more and more that people talk about it, and if it's Adriana talking about it,

I don't really care. We can't really overlook it. I could see it. I could absolutely see it. And she could be pissed off about that. I think it explains a lot of how she acts and moves. Like, I think that gives me.

But also a friend of sitting second seat on the right side is kind of wild. That's crazy. And she still doesn't get it. Like, I'm, I don't want to, this is going to sound weird, but like, I'm on Marisol's side. I am too, she deserves one. Like, what does she deserves one? Yeah, I think she deserves one. It's just more, I wonder what her plans to try to get that have been.

I wonder how much she's, she's trying to orchestrate behind the scenes in an effort to get it. Maybe she had to take a step back after Dr. Nicole called her out. That could have happened to. Oh, maybe. I don't know. That's fun to speculate on because it does, it changes the perception. perspective in which I watch her because I'm like ooh yeah so that's why you're doing what you're doing not because you don't give a shit but you actually do give a lot of shits and that's

why you're doing everything it's so weird that it can be explained for both it's like if you didn't care at all I would believe that if you care a whole lot I believe that too what an interesting tweak that would be too because it really wouldn't it wouldn't change a whole lot if you've made her a full-time cast member just gave her a mojito for next year that's a built-in storyline because now we're talking about it and if you leave adriana on there as a friend of mariselle gets the mojito that's going to piss adriano off beyond the leaf she's going to talk about it non-stop and if mariselle's pissed off enough other people and dr nicole comes back we've got ourselves a great storyline how's it feel to get your mojito back oh we got to talk about

this here's all the stuff that i figured out in the off season that she's been doing adriana will do her research on that dr nicole probably has research on that so that's She doesn't be a lot of fun if they end up going that route. And again, it is wild to me because I can't really imagine the show without Marisol. It doesn't work without Marisol. It doesn't. And you can't really hinge that much on a friend of. It's very bizarre.

I know. I know. So that's what really stuck out to me towards the end. Real thing piece. If we blog, do we blog about this? Yeah. Should we blog? My space.

No. No, I don't have enough time to blog. But yeah, it is interesting. It's an interesting thing to keep an eye on. And other than that, like, everything kind of wraps up. This whole episode was filler for the most part. But, I mean, again, solid season, very solid season. And the reunion, the first two episodes are great.

We very rarely get three where we're like, wow, great reunion, all three in a row. So I thought that it was a top-notch job from these ladies. I'm excited to see next season. I really hope and pray that we don't. get a lot of movement in the off season. If it ain't broke, don't fix it for the love of God. Yeah, there's not a lot of shows on Bravo where we're not keyed into all of the moves that happen in the off season.

I hope to hear nothing from Miami until they start filming. Unless it's Dr. Nicole's coming back in some capacity. That's the only news that we need. But yeah, time will tell. We'll keep our ears open during the off season, let you guys know if we hear anything. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope.

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