Bros & Shows - Don't Start None, Won't Be None (RHONJ Full Recap)

Episode Date: June 26, 2024

What's up Bros? We had fisticuffs on RHONJ and its time to break it down. In this episode, Teresa is throwing a Tulum themed party. During a sound bath, Tre admits to using Jackie in another attempt to take down Marge. Dolo and Paulie are going forward in starting their electric business and it looks like the divorce discussion has been put on hold for now. The charity drama continues as Danielle tries to understand Jen Aydins motives. Even Teresa is confused why Jen is hung up on it. Tensions are high going into the party. Dolo is over Jackie, Teresa is using Jackie to take down Marge, Danielle doesn't understand why Jen is mad at her, and Jen is fully loaded and ready to poke the bear with Danielle. Things escalate at the party and we get ourselves a lil scuffle between Jen and Danielle. Are you team Aydin or Team Cabral? Introducing BravBros Members! Offering exclusive access, bonus episodes, monthly Q&A zoom and more! Use the link below to join! https://thebros.memberful.com/join This episode is brought to you by Quince. Spruce up your wardrobe this summer without breaking the bank! Go to Quince.com/bravbros for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Time Stamps: Intro: 0-3:35 RHONJ Fandom: 3:40 RHONJ Recap: 12:23 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, as always by the one and only Shooter Magouter. What's up, dude? Very official. We gotta switch gears back into Bravo.

Yeah, we're back to Bravo, back to our bread and butter, if you will. Although, I will say there was an unexpected amount of violence in this Jersey episode, so maybe we can carry some House of the Dragon over to this. Yeah, it's similar. And for those you that aren't aware, we are covering House of the Dragon, so if you are watching that show, I'd like to listen to us recap it. We've gotten some great responses. People have said they've gone as far to say, that we are better than the official House of the Dragon Podcasts.

There's a couple out there. They like us better. I'm not saying that they're right, but they probably are. How can you be official and have multiple things? I don't know. I didn't get that either, but somebody said, I listened to two official House of the Dragon podcast. I think the one is actually HBO.

It's the one that they promote at the other episode, yeah. Maybe the other one, they only do House of the Dragon. They don't do anything else. So it's like an official house. I don't know. Unofficially official. Can we just dub it as an official podcast? Yes.

All right. Then we're official. We're official AF. So you heard it here, folks. Hard launch. Hard launch. And just a quick reminder, let's get all of the details out of the way now

so then we can get to the jersey of it all because this was a pretty solid episode, an entertaining episode. I got a lot. Of it all? I did that on purpose. Every time I say it now, like I feel it coming out of my mouth.

What? I don't like that. I didn't like that one at all. I can say that ever again. As long as I don't do. Anyway, back to the business of the business. Up first, don't forget, we are launching or have launched our Brov Bros members program. We are at 250, so we are starting our exclusive episodes.

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The other order of business heads. Oh, that's it because I already did House of the Dragon. We've already talked about that. Yeah. Orders of business out of the way. Orders of business have been ordered and received. So let's talk about some jersey. I posted my reaction to the fist of cuffs that were thrown on this episode of Jersey. Fist of cups. Fist of cups. Ooh, well, there we are. Well done.

I'm glad you're firing on Zillner's today. I need you. And you're picking me up. I need you. This is what bros do for each other. They pick each other up. And I appreciate you because I'm a Ceepee boy. I'm excited to talk about this episode and I threw up a reaction video intentionally because I posted on Instagram and TikTok because I knew that would go fine.

And I waited until the following day to post it on Twitter because I knew that would be a shit show and I intentionally wanted to stir the pot a little bit and stir the pot I did. And the comments were just exactly what I figured they would be. The fact that nobody can look at a situation objectively with this show baffles me. The fact that people think they need to explain to us why this is different, why Jen Aiden was correct is so funny. And they talked to us like we're idiots. One person in the comments went and responded to anybody that was on Team Daniel. I think there's seven or eight of these posts. She screenshoted the Webster's Dictionary Definition of Assault and Battery.

If I have to see that again, and the funny thing is, it wasn't just in our comments because obviously with all the engagement that was going on any time that we opened Twitter, it was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven posts in a row. And it's all Jen versus Danielle. And there were other people also replying to those. With the same screenshot. So this person that was in our DMs in our comments was probably either screenshoting someone else's or whatever. There's no way that everybody did this.

If I have to see one more Webster's dictionary definition of assault versus battery, I'm going to lose my mind. It drove me crazy. And it's like, do you think that this is an aha moment where we're like, oh, now that I see it this way? So right. Oh, my God. I'm going to break this down now before we get into it. Do I understand if somebody gets in somebody's face that you may get shoved? Absolutely.

Would I have reacted that way? Probably. Probably. If someone's like right here in my face, but. Kind of ruining my plan for later in the episode, all right. I'm sorry. I was going to say, wouldn't you do that? Yeah.

Yeah, I'm not saying. That was the other part where people said, oh, you wouldn't do that. Like, you're such a hypocrite, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, no, look, I understand. Not saying I don't get why she was shoved. There's two parts to this. If that happens and you shove, you need to be ready. for a retaliation. If I put hands on someone, I'm expecting to get hit back. Correct. So for everyone

out there that's like, oh, Danielle's such a monster like that reaction was not warranted. It's like, no, once you touch somebody, it's game on. I don't give a shit. I'm going to punch you in the face. That's what she did. She hits you with a cup. And the other idiots out there that are like, what if it was glass? Is the same thing as saying, what if it was a knife? What if it was a rock? It was not a glass. It was a plastic cup. It is what it is. You pushed. You got hit. That's what happens in a fight. Anybody that's trying to look at this like so far on Jen Aden's team and so far up her ass is dumb. It's just a dumb way to look at it. There's two sides of this. You could argue that she was justified in pushing her because Danielle was in her face. That I

would listen to. When you go further and say, what if this happened? That's a complete hypothetical, ridiculous scenario that did not happen, did not occur. I don't need to hear it. Yeah. And the people online mostly, I feel like they pick and choose which physical altercation on Bravo that want to actually go after. I would love to see these people being consistent and commenting the same thing. Maybe a little screenshot of assault on other altercations that we've seen across all of the Housewives. Yeah, it's been a little while since we've seen a good drink toss.

It's been a while. I think the last drink toss that we saw was probably Potomac. I think we saw one in Miami. We saw one more reason. I mean, we saw one on VPR James. Yeah, that one doesn't count. I'm talking about Housewives. But still, we see drinks.

tosses all the time. That's one of the staples of Housewife shows. So what Steele's doing here is just simply saying, you get in someone's face, you have to expect that this is going to happen. He's not even saying that Danielle was right to do so. He's just saying you fuck around, you find out. That's it. That's it.

There's no opinion there. There's no I'm going to take this team or that team there. But because you say that, it's going to look like you're picking Danielle's side. He's not doing that at all. It's just really funny. And the people that comment on these jersey, any clip that has anything to do with jersey is so funny we could probably tweet out right now

and just say teresa judice and that's it that's the tweet watch the chaos and just watch people freak out of course you're going to tweet teresa judice no no seriously do it right now i'm not going to do it right now we're not doing that to twitter i just look it's just baffling to me it's simply baffling and the people like and i look the majority of you out there those listening to us every week talk about it we know you're not on twitter causing all this shit i know it's a small group of people that watch this show, that fandom ruins this show. There's countless content creators out there that we know that are very good at their jobs that don't cover Jersey anymore because of the fans. Did you know that somebody who was routinely in our comments forever

about all of our takes and going after us for different things has one of our videos pinned to their profile saying, these are good bros? It's so funny to me though, because if you say one thing that aligns with it and it gets enough traction, people will say, oh, you guys are my best friends. I love your podcast. It's so nuts. You say something that goes against it. You're going to be in our replies the entire time.

So it's just so fucking funny, dude. And it goes farther than that. I was looking at the comments coming in and I didn't respond to any of them. You'd be very proud of me. But as I'm seeing them roll in, one person's like, these guys have been a mouthpiece for Marge all season. I was like, you fuckers don't even listen. You don't even listen to us.

I'm so sick of this fandom. I'm so tired of it and not that you're getting to me. You're not winning. It's just the idiocy. The complete utter idiocy astounds me when I read this shit. I'm like, God damn it. Fucking go outside. Like put your fucking profile picture, not of a Bravo Lab.

Have the balls if you're going to talk shit to put your face on it. Like it's such, it's so insane. Our faces aren't on our profile picture. But it doesn't matter. You go to our profile. You see us right there. Don't you provoke me right now. I'm provoked over there.

Just the Marge mouth piece. It's just, seriously. I'm the biggest March fan here. I mean, it's just, it's laughable. If you can't look at this scenario objectively and understand why Jen pushed her, okay, fine. She's in her face. Why she got hit? Okay, fine.

Both make sense to me. It was a physical altercation. And shit happens. Fuck around, find out. You know what the funniest part is, too? Jen didn't really seem phased by it. And I'll give her a little bit of props here. She didn't seem phased by it.

But yes, it was the reaction that she wanted. She was trying. So, of course, she's like, okay, yeah. I got what I wanted. I'm not going to be upset about this. But how many times have we seen something like this where push comes to shove, literally, or it comes to the point where physical altercations come into play for housewives? And the person who gets a drink port on them flips out, they start crying, they start playing the victim.

She didn't even do that. And Danielle's on the way home with her husband. She had the balls to leave right afterwards. So nobody was actually affected. Obviously, there's more to come out. And Danielle posted something on her Instagram, which I didn't really make, it didn't really make any sense. me she's talking about how people relying on her for the whole year and now you're going to find out it's like we didn't really know any but whatever it looks like this is just the tip of the iceberg

and someone pointed out that apparently this happens again towards the end of the season so nothing ever gets resolved and now everybody's calling for people to get kicked off the show how about instead of looking at people getting kicked off the show there's no reunion there's no hint at what's going to happen next season people are already talking about recasting there might not be anybody on this show next year. No. So you can't call for Jen or Danielle to get kicked off the show when you don't even know if there's going to be a show next year.

Valid point. The other part of it is Danielle got suspended for this. Jen Aden did not, which I think is fucking ridiculous. Either you got to cut them both or you keep them both around because Jen did initiate the physicality. Whether you like it or not, I don't really give a shit. That's what happened. She touched first.

That is, don't send me the goddamn definition of assault and battery again. You pushed her first. Yes, she was in your face. All of our comments are just going to be that screenshot now. If it's the people that love us and think it's funny, that's funny. But if it's the idiots out there, they're like, do you know what it means? It's like, shut up. Shut up and turn your Twitter off.

Anyway, I wanted to get that out so we could recap this without me. There we go. That was sitting on me. Sitting on you? I'm just, I'm having a tough day with words. It was weighing on me, sir. There we go. And I got it out of the way.

So now we can recap Jersey. But yeah, God damn it. God damn it. Shooter. I almost said your legal name. that's how frazzled this got me but let's dive right in we start out with jen teresa and tholo and we find out that teresa is throwing a party and then we get a quick cut to melissa and this is setting it all up because we're going to have an extended juxtapose scene they go back and

forth for a while i did my best to keep track so we're going to kind of a couple of those that yeah the funny thing is between this scene and there's one later where there's three different parties going on where everybody's talking about the same thing but we're just jumping around I thought of you and I felt bad. That's, thank you. You and your notes. I've gotten better at it because now I will put parentheses around when the other group is inserting into it. So I've gotten better at following, but I appreciate you thinking about me.

But we jump over Melissa at Envy and she's got a new storefront. Things are going well. They're trying to put on a fashion show to, I don't know if it's, I got confused by the fashion show. Is it local? Did they just want to, like, show it's a local show. Yeah. Show people what they got. Okay.

And, you know. It's not exactly. Fashion Week. No, it's not Bougy Kids Fashion Week But I do like her relationship But Danielle, I like that she invited her there I like that Danielle is not coming into it Because this would have been a big red flag for me

If Danielle had came into that room And acted like she was the shit now Because she had Fashion Week Instead of being like, oh, I'm just excited to see how you do things And like you have, wow, you have 10 models I had like five and I was freaking out So like I like that she's still humble about it I think there's a lot of other housewives out here

Then people would be, oh, she loves Danielle But I think there's a lot of housewives that would have had their shot at like fashion week and then they would have been you should do this you got to do that yeah exactly so i appreciated the way that she came in psaid everybody out there nips are in so nips are back it's a nip bro summer this summer uh catch us down wildwood we're going to cut out the nips of our t-shirts um we're just following the fashion trends just do what we always do and just drop a bunch of buttons yeah just button down those buttons down as the night goes on all the dudes out there if you're wearing a button down in the summer as the night gets more fun

you drop a button. Correct. That's the rules. Dem's the rules. We don't make them. We just follow them. But anyway, we jump back to Jen, Teresa, and Dolo, and Shooter's favorite event is occurring.

They are having a nice little sound bath trying to get Zen. I think that, I think you're Dolores. Yeah. Because she's like, I was finally, I was so thankful that somebody finally just said it. Yeah. This does nothing for me. I don't get it. It's really.

It was a funny scene to me only because I liked the editing. of this one where they're showing what they're actually like trying to heal from this is what's bothering you this what's bothering you that part I enjoyed but Dolores brings up the fact that her and Paul are opening the business again

electric electric what electricians electricians okay she kind of described a little bit better last week I feel like when she was talking to her mom and her daughter it seems like they're just contractors but they're not doing any of the work they just own it

and they're the face of it, and there's going to be people underneath of them that they have go do the work. How do we do something like that? You're pretty sick? That seems pretty awesome. The bros electric. Electric bros.

Electric bros. That could be our EDM band name. Okay, yeah, we'll go with that one. Let's start with that. I didn't like where I was going with it. No, yeah, we go with electric bro, EDM. Yeah, you idiot. But the divorce thing comes back.

Obviously, it always is going to. She, I don't, I think that, The way that Dolores functions is she's going to make up her mind on her own time. Yeah. And this to me when she's like, he can't do more than he's doing right now, is not her trying to give him an out. I think it's more just like, I'm done talking about this with you guys. We're figuring it out. We're going into business together.

It's some form of a commitment. I'm okay with that for now, but I'm done with you guys. That's the vibe I got. But the housewarming recap comes up. We talk about the bottle and Melissa points out, you know, the spectra. of it all. Find out it was Louis because he just, it would be a nice gesture. This would be a great gesture. We're going to send the bottle,

send a little letter. It's a great gesture. It's not. You're trying to manipulate. You're trying to force something here. You know what you're doing. Both of you do. Everyone on this show does. So just remove the bottle from the equation. Don't do things like that. But it was a spectacle on both ends. Why do they not

realize this? I don't know. Why does nobody ever talk about that? That's a great point. There's a spectacle on one side for sure. Teresa's sending a bottle is insane. In the first place you're not even talking to each other this isn't a nice gesture because we've done this a million times at this point and not doing this let's just stop let's stop back to like we're going to do this just because louis here like yeah he's a good scapegoat because we can always see him doing that but it was a spectacle on jo's end too because he lit the fucking card on fire and he

starts talking about family and all this in the big dom torretto speech so yeah it's a spectacle on both ends it's a zero some game nobody's going to look at this and be like oh yeah you're absolutely right because you did the same thing on your end so no it's stupid let's stop stop it but uh back to daniel and melissa and they bring up jen aden and to me looking at this whole thing when you break down what jen is trying to be upset about jen's just looking for a reason to try to hate daniel i don't really understand why until later when jen points out she's like i don't understand why teresa's trying to bring her into this group i'm like oh you're threatened by daniel she is that's where this is coming because Danielle, for all intents and purposes, has a nice marriage.

She's doing well with her business. Meanwhile, Bill doesn't know your name. You don't have a business, and you're trying to get credit for showing up. You're showing up to a charity event, and you want some kind of accolades for that. She only has $1 million. You only have $1 million. One million. That's one millie.

Yep. It's Jesus, but. Is that a little way we're wrapping about? A millie? A millie. Yeah, just one. Just one. A Millie, period.

That was about Jen Aden and Bill Aden. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's friends with them. That's not true. Don't put it out there. But we get back to Jen, and she's talking about the fucking step and repeat again. Like, this is my point. For everybody out there, let me give you guys a little lesson on a step and repeat that you probably already know because you're intelligent.

If you want to be on a step, like when Shooter and I have a live show, for example, we did one with Bubley. bubbly sponsored the event they gave us some bubbly for it we worked out a deal the step and repeat was braf bro's bubbly alternating across the board because they paid to sponsor the event you do not get accolades for showing up

to something i think jen aden thinks that she's a much bigger celebrity than she actually is absolutely teresa if teresa's like hey can you slap a namestay bitches on there that's worth considering because teresa's going to drive the numbies for that event that's fine Jen Aiden is not. So for her to think and assume that Aden Plastic Surgery would be on there and then fake that she's upset about it so she can have a problem with Danielle really rubs me the wrong way.

Well, I do love that the entire time, this goes back to last week, Jen keeps talking about putting Aden Plastic Surgery on there. At the very end of this episode, she throws in the Namaste bitches. Oh, you hear that? She has not once said anything about Teresa. She hasn't said anything about anyone else but herself. And now, because Teresa's there, I got to make sure that Teresa's okay. Yep. Teresa doesn't give a shit about what you're talking about.

She didn't even know what you're talking about. She doesn't even agree with you at the end of the episode. So, no, she doesn't give a shit what you're talking about. You just wanted Bill, look, I'm seeing through the cracks here. I like that. Is there financial problems in the Aden household? We're talking about how there's only one million here. You can't pay for all the shit for one million dollars.

Can't be full of shit like that. if you're going to do this and you're trying to slap aid in plastic surgery wherever you want, maybe there's something here. I like this. Maybe you're hungry for money because you're deep in some sort of hole from your fucking monstrosity of a house. And the pool house out back, let's not forget about the pool house. There's probably some money buried out there. So here we are talking about your finances and you brought it up.

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She literally says it. She doesn't even hesitate. She's like, I'm just using her to take down Marge. Dolores acknowledges that Jackie's using Teresa because she thinks she's better than Teresa, they're using each other back and forth. The thing is, Jackie, you're not ready for this. No. You cannot go toe to toe.

Teresa doesn't care about you. You do care about Teresa and her opinion. Teresa does not care about you. She will use you for what she needs and spit you out. You're going to try to use Teresa. You're going to get close to her and want to continue to be friends with her. And then she's going to bury you. Yeah, and it's really funny, too, because right before the season started, Jackie was on some sort of podcast talking about how she has grown closer.

to Teresa and yeah and she did at least admit in the beginning of this so-called friendship it did seem a little transactional but we have grown closer since them you're watching this now there's no chance in hell that you feel the same way which is really funny to me

a lot of people don't really like that Teresa broke the fourth wall here saying if you want to even call it that saying that she's going to just use Jackie to take down March I didn't like it I have no fucking problem with it because it's better than what we've been getting that's fair it's all relative with when it comes to Jersey because Jersey's been such a shit show with all the same stuff happening

and happening and happening. Now we're at least getting people just saying, hey, I'm just going to use this person to take, because we don't really have any respect for Jackie for what she's doing. Teresa is a housewife that maybe people haven't had respect for in a very long time, but if she's at least going to be honest about it, I'm okay with that because at the end of the day, we're going to take down March. That's what I want. Yeah, and my, I don't know. I mean, that's just where this show is now. The perspective that you just offer, For there, that's, you're correct. The fact that that is making this entertaining for what it is, fine.

Yeah. I agree with that. In the grand scheme of where these shows overall in the Housewives realm have gone, that's not good. It's not good that you're just forcing the fourth wall open and being like, this is what I'm doing, here's my plans, because that's not what these shows are about. We know that behind the scenes people are moving and being shady, that's why we watch. Now that it's just flat out like, oh, yeah, this is all a game, I'm playing, this is my card,

right, here's my pawn, whatever. In this specific season on this franchise, you are correct. It does make for better watching. In the overall grand scheme, it's not a good plan. Yeah, if this had popped up in a different houseway franchise that's doing well. Like, if we saw this in Miami, I wouldn't be all about it at all. But we don't even know the direction of this show at this point. Yeah, you're right.

Okay. And I, look, again, we can say this a million times. I do hope they're going in a different direction next year because I'm seeing things happen this season. that I know that one side or the other is just going to use against each other. I watched last year. There is no reunion because we'd just be talking about this. You use Jackie to try to take me down. Yes, I did.

Why? Because you suck. Like, that's really all it's going to be. And that's all next season's going to be. So they do need to move in a different direction. I had a thought popped through my head. If they were planning on doing this anyway, they would probably tell Teresa first. Do you think that she's just doing all of this shit and throwing things at the wall

at this point because she doesn't really care? No, I don't think that she has that much foresight, to be honest with you. I think that... But if Bravo sat down with her and was like, hey, we're going in a different direction next year, but you're going to be, you know, either on your own show or you're going to be safe, what do you want to do, and she just decides to do this? I don't know. It's just, it seemed like a weird move again.

Like, I had no problem with it because of the state of Jersey and at least made an entertaining watch for this episode and maybe future episodes, but it's still sat like, that's a really weird move to do. It's a strange move, especially you know that Jackie's going to see it. I think that Teresa, for all, I can't keep saying all intents and purposes, but whatever, I think that Teresa at this point in her career on Housewives, and we saw it last year, you know, ever since Louis came into the fold pretty much, she really doesn't care. Like, she's so checked out. She knows that she's going to get a paycheck. She knows that she's got a life after this in some regard on tv to me it's just a checked out moment where it's like this is what i'm doing like i don't even

think that she's thinking that far ahead she's like yeah fuck it like whatever at this point that's kind of the vibe i get from her but you're correct i do like that the perspective shift there was important so you're right that for this show where it is it was it was a good moment but we get to fuda and marge and fuda is working through her daughter just had surgery to get the tongue tie fixed and all that stuff we get to see that's that was rough it's crazy yeah dude having to like stretch it out and stuff. Oh, my God, yeah. I felt for there.

That's, that sucks. You know, regardless of what you feel about or at least they're on the road to recovery. And then we hear that Joe Benigno might have, I don't want to say might have, just as PSA levels were up, which could indicate prostate cancer. Hopefully that comes back and the numbers are down. Everything's cool there regardless of how you feel about Marge, you specifically, and the general masses. We don't wish negativity like that on anybody. So hopefully Joe comes through with clean numbers, clean bill of health. but what I did gather from this

Marge not that she's been you know composed over the years she's breaking we're seeing Marge break this season I think she needs ahead from somebody she's got to take somebody down and if she doesn't

I think she's going to fucking snap yeah no it was really interesting to watch her talking to Rachel Rachel wasn't going full bore against somebody like Jackie she was still she was listening to what Marge saying about Jackie, but she wasn't willing to go as deep as Marge

was. Correct. She was taking a bit of look, you can call it a stance if you want to, it's not really, but she was taking a bit of a stance against Marge, not going down that toxicity hole. She said you went too low. Yeah. She said that you went too low with sending the screenshot right then and there. So she is at least trying to point out

the things that Marge is doing. And we've seen Marge do a lot of shitty things in the past. That was the first one that I've ever seen her do right in front of somebody's face. So you might be right that she's breaking a bit. because usually she would do that from behind the scenes. She'd have somebody else do it. The fact that she had her husband pointed his phone,

which is still very funny and still stuck in my head. Those are types of things. Yeah. That was me being jumped. But she hasn't done anything that I don't know. She seems off. Something seems really off with her. And maybe it's because of her ex, you know, passing away,

something going on with Joe, the whole Teresa thing. I'm not really sure exactly what it is. we can't really put our finger on it. But she needs people to either, like you said, she needs to be able to go get ahead somewhere, or she needs people to try to check her. People in her own court try to check her. Because Melissa's not really going to do it.

I think Melissa's checked out too. Maybe Rachel can step up and at least try to guide her somewhere. Marge is unchecked. Marge is uncheckable. She's unguidable. I know that. But she needs something. I agree.

I agree. It's going to be interesting to watch the collapse of this show this season in some way, perform whether it get look this is a good episode so maybe we have a sign of things to come but from the rumors we're hearing and everything like there it's going to get weird at some point things are going to start to get shaky at some point during the remaining episodes i would imagine we have probably seven maybe eight to go with no reunion i'm sure they're going to try to push it i don't know there's 15 or 16 we're at eight right now so i would imagine seven or eight more but

moving on we get to paul and dolores and they are doing a little couples training Love to see that, you know, a very bonding moment. But there's a little public service announcement that dudes, all my dudes, all my bros out there listening. Don't tell women what to do with their body. Yeah. It's not a good look. Even if you're coming from, this is what I've heard from guys in the past when they're like, you know, the classic thing. Well, you don't need makeup.

You're beautiful. You don't need to get that surgery. It's not for you, bro. It's not for you. It's for them. It's for the woman to make. make themselves feel better, more confident, whatever it might be, whatever their reasoning is, is their reasoning, don't weigh in on it.

All you need to say is, I support you, good for you. Don't tell them what to do with their body. It's not a good look. Yeah, I feel like a moment like this could be, well, you know, you do whatever you're going to do with your plastic surgery, but I still want you to be healthy and that's going to be working out. Yeah, that's a good compromise. You can still come and work out with me.

We can still do these training sessions together because it's a lot of fun and you feel lot better. I feel a lot better. I'm transforming my body, but I'm not going to get plastic surgery. You can do that too. That's it. Both. Yeah, that's a great way to approach the whole thing. But yeah, don't just say, definitely don't say, if you do that, I'm fucking walking. That's, that's a bad look. Especially when you're not even engaged. Yeah. You're about to start business too, so. Yeah. But whatever. They start talking about Jackie, and she is surprised by the whole thing and understandably so dolores has been pretty cool with jackie at least nice like she's never really started shit with her she's always especially the past couple years she's played

switzerland she even points out i don't have rage i don't get enraged anymore we haven't seen like a dolo snap yeah very long time she's much more composed so she points out i didn't know jackie like this is news to me and like the marge accusations about her talking shit about you and i polly like that's alarming as well and she even at this moment recognizes like teresa and jenn are just going to squeeze everything out of her and this is the one thing from polly this season i appreciated because this this one sentence points to why the show is where it's at right now if everyone's going to come for everybody nobody's safe there are no factions really anymore the lines are blurred. They're falling apart. Jackie has no friends. Teresa's using her. Jen's using her because

Teresa's using her. Marge has Fuda. Danielle is back and forth between everybody. Apparently she's super close to Teresa, but just had a major falling out with Teresa's best friend. Jen or best friend in quotes, her best pawn. So that's kind of the best way to describe it. If everyone's gunning for everybody, nobody's safe. If nobody's safe, the show's not safe. So Polly inadvertently was like the soothsayer right there. So I appreciated that from him. But we move on to the pre-to-lume party. This is the scene you were talking about where he felt bad for me because we're jumping back and forth. Everyone's getting ready for the party. Well, I really love the pre-tollum party for one reason and one reason alone. Louis walking through the yard while people are setting up.

Do you help? Hey, you guys good? Everybody good? You're pretty good? Hey, you bartender? Cool. Thanks for coming. The guy behind the bar mixing the drinks? Yeah, it's probably the fucking bartender, you moron. That was a thousand percent. I love when Louis, he does things for the cameras. Oh, I know. It's just my favorite thing. You're not this stand-up guy. Like, what are you going to help them with?

There are people that you paid to be there. Yes, the bartender's there. You don't have to thank him for coming. It's doing his job. Like, what are you doing here? I want to pull a card right here. Yeah. I do parties like this, like at places like this.

All of my experience with the hosts have been, they're very gracious. They're very kind. They come in very calmly. Like, hey, here's where everything is. If you need anything from me, holler at me. You can ask them, like, that person's running the service. staff tonight like whatever you need you just let me know that's how it goes and i've done this for multiple people across the northeast i've never once had anybody running around going do you what

you got trash bags i got more bags not here's the trash can uh bartender you're the bartender thank you for like i've never experienced that in my life so i 100% agree with you anytime he sees a moment to look like that guy he's going to take that opportunity to look like that guy and i can already feel you fucking tree stumps out there going he can't do anything right he can't because he's a piece of shit and he's not fooling me and if he's got you fooled that's your problem yeah but anywho during this whole pre-to-loom party everyone is discussing what is going to transpire pretty much like jackie and dolores they're a mess and you get to jenn and she is still stuck on daniel and even as she's i hate i hate it makes my my skin crawl when me

get these pre anything any event when we get these pre event conversations with bill and jen in their bedroom like the minute i see their bedroom i get sad instantly i'm like here we go and jen is just spouting off nonsense while bill's sitting there he doesn't even know what she said and he gives the generic like what that's crazy like when you're not paying attention to a story yeah and she's setting the whole thing up talking about daniel and how it's been festering and how she doesn't appreciate how she treated Lena or Lina, whatever the fuck her name is. Why do you care so much? And why are you acting like you treat people better than how Danielle has treated?

Again, we don't know Danielle's relationship with these people, except from what Daniel says and she's saying it on TV pretty much. Like, I don't know her that well. I don't know her at all. So what, yeah, who the fuck is Lena? Yeah, none of it really makes any sense. Her motives are very unclear. I think that you hit the nail on the head. she's, Danielle is getting too close to Teresa

and Jen is getting territorial. She's trying to knock her down a peg because she's realizing that Danielle could be a good friend to Teresa but I'm a better friend to Teresa and I'm going to get her out of here. Maybe that's what it is. That's the only thing that I could possibly think of. You can take it a step further not to cut you off.

Yeah, go ahead. But the fact that Jen Aden has been fishing for more friends this season if she feels like her friendship with Teresa's being infringed upon and now she's starting to reach out to more people to try to be friends with them. It's a possibility, yeah. I mean, that could be, because every single time that we talk about this issue, it doesn't seem like Jen has much of a personal relationship with people like Lena or what's the other girl's name, Melissa?

It is Marissa. Marissa. It doesn't seem like Jen has any sort of interpersonal relationships with any of these people. So I don't know what she's so offended by. That's my thing. And maybe you're pissed off that you showed up at this charity event. You didn't get Aiden plastic surgery put on there. But you did throw in that Namaste bitches could also be on there.

You didn't say anything on the entire time. So I don't think that's the sticking point. So there's no real indication as to why she's pissed off about this. And look, if you're not going to show us what your motives are, if you're not going to show us why you're doing this, we're going to have to speculate. I'm going to speculate. I'm going to speculate the hell out of this one.

It has to be just because you're threatened by Danielle getting close to Teresa. That's what I gather from her because this is the moment where she says, I don't know why she would bring her in. Or let's take it back to your step, step two, her going out and being friends with everybody else, maybe she feels like by being, having a sit down with Melissa, in the back of her head, she feels bad about that because she knows that Teresa's mad at her for that. And she's still doing it, but it's opening up a door in her mind where maybe Danielle could sneak in there and get close to Teresa closer than her. Okay. I don't know. No.

She's got to be like, she has to be self-conscious of some other. shit going on. Just to piss people off. I agree with you 100%. You're right. That's what's happening. That's what it does. And next year, we're going to get Jenna and Melissa being best friends against Teresa and Danielle. Probably. Oh, God. But we get to the party set up as we saw Louis outside being an idiot inside of the house. Teresa, without fail, has not missed an episode this season without wearing a Namaste bitch's t-shirt. She's in the kitchen with her Namaste bitch's shirt on. They're talking about Jackie, talking about Danielle. This was important, though, because you see that Teresa, she loves Danielle. Like, she's really enjoyed getting closer with her. So, again, that adds to

our theory, honestly, because she's talking nothing but nice, even after Jen's been trying to drag her. Yeah, they're talking about Jen actively trying to tear Danielle down and how confused they are. Yeah, they don't understand it. Teresa doesn't even get it. That's your best friend, Jen. If Teresa doesn't understand what you're doing, why should we? I don't know. It doesn't make any sense, but you can start to see between that, and we'll point it out a little bit later, but the way that Teresa handles the whole situation, it doesn't seem like she's coming to her best friend's aide. Not at all.

She's really confused as to why you're doing the things that you're doing. She's not Aiden Aiden. She's not Aiden? Oh, nice. That's good. Yeah, that's all you 80s out there about fire. I tried to take it a step. I tried to do what you do and take it too far, Aden Squared, and you were already doing it. Yeah, I always will.

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but we get to the Tulum party and there's a lot riding on this like the tension's already high as you go into it because you know how many fractures there are in the group whether fabricated or not so going into this I'm expecting fireworks obviously we got clips of things happening so you know what's going to happen in this episode

but I thought it was hysterical that Teresa tries to sway Fessler with the private jet. It's like well if you hang out with me more you'll get on the private jet I think she was serious I think she was too yeah But Jen brings up Jackie immediately, didn't waste any time, but it was apparently talking to the ride.

Dolo's frustrated because she's like, look, she's always acted elitist and classist and all this shit. And I thought that the moment was so good because right then and there, it flashes over to Jackie walk. And she says to Gia, I do book press and everyone's obsessed with your mom and me. It's like, I thought about that too. I was I was trying to look at it from a pragmatic way of thinking maybe she's saying that to Gia because it's Gia's mom and she wants to be nice and be like, yeah, me and your mom are friends, like this is, but no, she was bragging in a weird way. I was trying to put herself on the same level as Teresa.

Yeah, I could see it. Actually, you know what? I could see it if Gia was, say, 13 years old. Not 22. Not 22 in understanding what's going on and probably was briefed on the whole Jackie situation earlier, which. she was. If she's 13 years old, yeah, everybody's obsessed with me and your mother. That's cool for a 13-year-old to hear, maybe, but not a 22-year-old who knows the game and knows what's going

on and knows what role you're going to be playing moving forward. So no, that was definitely just her bragging and saying, hey, we're friends. I have a book. I have a book. And me and your mom are friends, right? Cool. I also say that your mom made me relapse in the book, but everyone loves us. But everybody loves us. I love her, and she loves me. Maybe one day she'll get to one of my book signings. Nope. You can call me Aunt Jackie. but anyway and also what no Evan yeah

he's been MIA the whole season doesn't want to be on the show anymore I think he's done yeah but I love what Dolores says and this is this is what she does and she does it very well let someone destroy themselves because they're way better at it

and across the board on this show if you took that advice anybody any castmate on the show if you just took that advice step back and let them bury themselves you can talk about the men on the show they'll do it you can talk about any of the women on the show they'll fucking bury themselves you don't have to do it you actually make things worse for yourself by inserting yourself into situations

because most of these people will bury themselves if given enough time if you just don't talk they'll go insane and try to do too much and be flattened because of it yeah so i love that she points that out but once again jen brings up dolores to jacky immediately as soon as she sees them and it immediately turns to March and as that's happening Teresa physically chokes she starts choking and says Marge is horrible

and starts going off about Marge Jen's going off about Marge Jackie's jumping in on the Marge train a little. Jackie's doing it in the funniest way possible. I love Marge you know I would never do anything but let me talk some shit about Marge it's falling your armor's falling

and as soon as it does Teresa and Jen are going to wipe the floor. And it's not like Teresa and Jen really took like a shady approach to it. Like we're going to ease into this, try to get some information out of her, maybe try to like draw her down a bit and then she'll go after Marge. They just start ripping Marge hoping that she joins in. She says she's not going to and then she immediately does. Petshler in a very interesting position.

And I love that she calls. You know what? I love Marge. I got to get out of here. And I love that she calls back the lunch. that she had at her house. Yeah. And I was like, I have neighbors.

And Teresa, for no reason at all, goes, I have five or six acres. She's like, thank God for those acres and goes for a little stroll, a little jaunt around the property to get away from these idiots. But I'm so glad we get a quick cut of Louis doing ballclaps. Could have done without that. That will live forever in my brain in a very bad part of my brain. I'm upset that that happened. But whatever.

We get to Jackie and Dolores for one of the funny. scenes, actually. I've seen in a while. I like this scene. It brightened my day. She, being Jackie, is trying to vent to Dolores about the fact that Marge sent the text. I don't know how I'll ever forgive her. Jackie, the contents of the text, are you shitting on Dolores and you're going to Dolores to complain about it? Not only that, but she's still trying to spin the whole Marge talks about you and Polly. It's irrelevant. I guarantee you by the end of this conversation when Jackie says, or I'm sorry, when Dolores says sometimes friendships just need a break, I think Jackie thinks that Dolores is talking about Jackie and Marge.

She is not Dolores and Jackie, which I'm like, dude, how do you not know what's going on right now? How do you not realize that Dolores is icing you out? Yeah, she's not empathizing with you. No, she's telling you to your face, I don't want to be around you. Go away. It's a full-blown break. Maybe we'll never get back to that, but that's okay. And Jackie's like, yeah, you know, maybe me and Marge do need to break.

It's devastating. Fuck off. God. Go away now. I'm done with you. To, too, Jackie. Be gone with you. But it was genuinely funny, though.

So I enjoyed that scene. But then we get Teresa and Danielle. And this is important. Usually these quick one-offs can go unnoticed. But this one's important because Teresa acknowledges that her and Danielle are closer than Danielle is with a lot of the other castmates. Now, if Teresa is just saying that to use it to her advantage, might be so, but irrelevant because Danielle believes it,

and that's important. I don't know if Danielle believes it, though. I think that Danielle would tell Teresa whatever she wanted to hear in that moment. I think so. I think she would have that same conversation if Melissa put her in a position she'd say that too. Okay. I would argue that she's way closer to Melissa than she has to Teresa. She even says earlier in the episode, I haven't seen Teresa since

the brunch. Yeah, and yeah, you're going to have this conversation about the brunch. Teresa's going to act like it's not that big of a deal, but she is going to ask you if you're closer to Teresa than you are to everybody else and imply that you are. So yeah, you're going to take the bait and say, of course I am. Yeah, okay. All right. That's fair. But Danielle brings up Jen and just says, I'm confused. I thought we were good. I thought all of us were good. And now she's throwing shade at things that aren't problems. None of this is her issue to begin with. I don't know why she's inserting herself. And at the same time, I've done nothing wrong. I put on a

charity event. And we're going to get into that. And thanks to our good friend, Zach Peter, we got a full breakdown of how charity events work. And the lack of knowledge of that by Jen Aden is very funny. But when we get to Danielle and Jen, they finally start talking. And Danielle just asks her, and she's not heated either. That's important to know. She doesn't enter this conversation trying to start shit with Jen. She just says, why would you say that to me? You know, you accused me of stealing from charities. You accused me of paying myself back. this and not, here's how charities work. And if you want a full breakdown, Zach actually does an episode because he was a charity

planner for a very long time. He did it for Donnie Wahlberg and Jen McCarthy. Those were his biggest clients and friends. So like he knows this realm very well. This was his job for years. The first thing you do after you run a charity is use the funds that you raised to reimburse all of the vendors. You pay for the party.

That doesn't come out of your pocket. If you are a multimillionaire and you want to be that charitable where you're paying for it, good for you. That's wonderful that you can afford to do that. Most people cannot. So when you put on a charity event, part of it is knowing that your expenses are going to come out of whatever is raised at the end of the night.

That's standard practice. Jen going further to say, and she said, I'm going to pay myself for my time. We don't know if that happened. It's coming out of Jen's mouth. I don't believe it at all. Daniel's never given like those kind of shady vibes where she's trying to pocket shit. And it doesn't make any sense.

It's not like Danielle paid either you or Teresa to be at the charity event. So why would she then boast about her paying herself for making an appearance at the charity event that she's running to the people that did not get paid for also making an appearance? Correct. That doesn't make any sense. Zero. Yeah. But she doesn't ever make sense. She just keeps saying stuff.

And you can tell this scene to me the whole time she's trying to invoke an emotional response. she's trying to get under Danielle's skin she keeps throwing shit at the wall waiting for something to land it does eventually and then you get that's the fuck that's the funniest part that people that have any other viewpoint of this you got what you asked for and it came with a plastic cup upside your head that's what you asked for whether you wanted it or not that was what you were doing by provoking and not stopping and you can't fall back on well she was calm she knew exactly what she was doing this whole time and as she's poking her she's like she brings up the step and repeat again. This is where she says, and you can put a namaste bitches on there. That's the first time we've heard that, as you pointed out. And she's like,

it's like you have tunnel vision. It's like you're not gracious or grateful for anybody. It's like since when? We've never seen like a selfish Danielle. Even if you don't like her, show me a scene where she's acted that way and not grateful for people supporting her bougie kids, being invited to certain things.

Like we haven't seen that side of Danielle. So if I'm supposed to take the word of Jennifer Aiden, no thanks no also it doesn't kill you to show up to a charity event no your face out there that's great PR yes now it's pictures taken now it's terrible PR but it's good PR that there's pictures taken with you Teresa Danielle and Dolores standing there in front of the charity step and repeat looking at everything and saying hey wow good for you showing up and drum it up a little bit of supports that there's more money going to this charitable event that's awesome instead you're trying to do more you're trying to be selfish and capitalistic about a charity of that you're

the problem you're the asshole you're the problem you're the asshole how do you not see that like it doesn't make any sense to me that's that's probably why i get so flustered is because it seems so objective to me looking at some of this like it shouldn't go another way and people like no uh based on what that's if you have fucking evidence i'll hear you out i'll hear anybody out we do it all the time. We'll bring people on this show that we don't agree with necessarily. And listen, if you have a good vantage point, I'll hear you. And sometimes you'll turn me. I'll be like, oh, shit, I didn't look at it that way. Good call. You do it all the time. And I'm like, oh, I didn't see it that way. Good point. It's not that we're immovable, but you can't just say,

no, uh, think that that's a response or fucking pull up a Webster's dictionary description. Like, that's insanity. But she says, Lena triggered you that much. Like, why is that such an issue for you. No, something else, too. Go on. You've been talking about Lena for weeks. We haven't heard about this other things.

Oh, wait, no, there's something else. I'd have Lena on the show to tell her side of the story, which you then cut off because she was doing a terrible job telling the story. And you told the story. She didn't even remember the event you were discussing. You go back. She goes, you remember it was that thing. She's like, oh, yeah, it was at, uh, and Jen's like, yeah, I was here.

And you did this, and this is where she went wrong. So if that's not what's bothering you, then why have you been talking about it for weeks? it's not it's the fact that marissa was doing something with hair extensions and jen aden thought it was a masterclass and she was being invited to put the extensions on daniel called her and just said hey i want to let you know what you signed up for she's putting extensions in there's no money involved here i don't want you to piss off your hair lady or your hairstylist i don't want that to happen just giving you a heads up seems reasonable seems reasonable what seems even more likely is jen's response where she goes oh i i don't have time for that thank you good looks appreciate you and now you're using it against her and saying

i don't like that you always try to figure out a way like you can't just show up for somebody and do something nice it's like you can't you can't that's the funniest part daniel called you and told you all this information and you didn't show up that's all you need to know it was daniel of dolores still there doing it because it's their hair person that's you listen to what daniel said and then you didn't show up so for the people who didn't show up raise your hand Jen, that was just you? Okay, great. Danielle still showed up.

So in, I guess, Jen's warped mind, not showing up for your hair person is not having Jen Aiden there to do it. I guess. That is what her definition. Somebody look that up on Webster, see if Jen Aden's in there. Yeah, show it.

That idea is wild. I didn't even think of, I didn't even, that is astounding. You're accusing her of not showing up for her hair person. We saw pictures of her showing up for the hair person.

You didn't show up. You found out there was no money involved and you did not show it. You just showed your true colors. Insane, yeah. But of course, she gets riled up because, yeah, you're pulling stuff. This would piss me off, too. If you're pulling shit that we discussed and it was a friendly conversation. And it's because you didn't get the rise or the reaction out of Danielle that you wanted.

So now you're pulling stuff out of your ass. Well, no, she saw her get activated a little bit with the Lena stuff. She goes, you're crazy. You're psychotic. And she's like, oh, I got you now. I'm going to, now I'm going to drill it. You call you a terrible friend. Yes, I'm going to just, this is where you get to.

You're dirty. You're dirty. And like, you're fucking dirty, bro. And that's exactly what Jen wanted. And that's where everyone's, the funniest ones I saw with Danielle was going to hit her no matter what. No, she wasn't. She absolutely wasn't. And there's, it's so obvious to me how many people out there have not been in a fight or been punched in the face before when they comment on shit like this because you have no idea what you're talking about.

She wasn't going to hit her. Things escalate. And what Jen did not expect to happen. And this is why it all went the way it did. Jen didn't expect Danielle to get under her skin. Because Danielle, whatever she says when she said, you're a fucking dirt bag, for whatever reason, that hit home. And Jen got pissed.

It was weird. She completely just turned, too. Because Gem was completely like even keeled. She was even doing the smirk that everybody knows when you're trying to get under somebody's skin. That's the best way to do it. And, yeah, Danielle got close enough to you, but you still seemed like you were calm and cool and still trying to get under her skin.

And then out of nowhere, it looked like it was almost going to de-escalate completely with Danielle walking away, and you're the one who pushed her. The dirtbag thing was weird. Struck a nerve. And she shoved her that time, though. She called her a dirtbag 15 times.

The 13th time? I guess the last time when she stepped up and said, you're a fucking dirt bag. That is when you see something switch. I don't think she even registered that she shoved her. I think that it was just reactionary. It could have been that. I mean, it could have just been how close she was.

Which we've already said. We get that. We understand that. Somebody got really close to you when he's screaming in your face calling you a dirtbag and pointing in your face. Yeah, sure. You can shove them. Absolutely.

Cool. But don't then be the victim when you catch a hand or a cup to the side of your head. You invited it. Again, she didn't play the victim as you normally would see it. Obviously, everybody else is going to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's too much, Danielle. But when you try to analyze the entire thing, like, yeah, obviously, Jen's okay to shove Danielle. Danielle reacted. That's the reaction that she wanted.

You're not going to sit there and cry and play the victim. If she did that, that would have been absolutely insane. Yeah, I know. But we can still sit here and actually logically look at this and say, Jen was just trying to get Danielle to do something like that. That's why she was so happy go lucky at the end of the episode. You just got a drink smashed in your face. and you're smiling and laughing and saying that you're strong. It could have been glass.

It could have been glass. It could have been a bomb. Like, what the fuck? Do you understand that's the same thing? Yeah. It could have been literally anything, but it was not. It was a plastic car. You idiots.

Oh. I'm telling you, man. It's just, it's flustering. But as far as Jersey episodes go, this was an entertaining one. It hit, no pun intended. If Danielle does, if she gets, it's suspended after this altercation, maybe

it's a different one that we haven't seen yet, but if it's because of this, that's horseshit, because she didn't make contact first. Yeah. Let's get to some questions. Let's get to some questions. From reality T underscore is violence sometimes the answer. I just like

that one. You're asking the wrong people. Look, if it's two consenting parties and shit goes down, sometimes shit happens. That's all I'm going to say. uh from brittany zero one one seven do you think jen aden has a closeted anger problem she loves to get physical with people that's the best part dude i for i think zach once again posted clips across the season of gen escalating

situations gen breaking glasses gen doing all sorts of physical shit but now daniel's the monster and jen aden would never like if you're going to die on the teresa or jen aden hill at least have the wherewithal to own some shit You idiots. Yep, that would make sense to me. From Daria underscore PNG, does Teresa see Dolores as her pawn too or like a real friend?

Neither, I think that Teresa is friends with Dolores. I think Teresa knows that she can't manipulate or fuck with Dolores, so she's a non-factor, in my opinion. From Mary Had a Little, does Bill even give a shit about Jen? That was the calmest reaction ever. We didn't get to talk about that.

We missed that part. I think that was hysterical. Nate is going to bat for Danielle, getting her out of there, being like, oh, my God, are you okay? Like, you're the best. Like, don't let that bother you. Bill's eating. Yep. Bill's too high.

I love the reaction. He smoked a big blunt and he's just crushing food. All the other people sitting in there, too, were like, oh, I should have known this was coming, but, you know, whatever. I think Bill just, like, casually wipes his mouth off with a napkin. I think that was his mood. He was just staring at her, like, with a little smile on a six. Yeah. He was definitely stoned.

Yeah. He's like, yeah, I know when I go to bed. And when he comes out later, he's like, did you guys get physical? A little punchy punchy earlier? I don't know. What happens? Are you good? Who was that?

Who was yelling at me? Who was the blonde? She's really mad at you. From Brian Scott Patterson. Let's chat why Dolores is the hero of the season. She's not putting up with bullshit at all. No, she doesn't have time for it, man. And that's like, she plays by the rule she's set forth early in the show.

Let them bury themselves. There's no, you don't need to go after these women or the men on the show. They'll do it themselves if you give them enough time. And she, she's a no BS person. She always has been. And now she's a little bit more Zen, so she's a little more collected during these things. So she just simply does not have the time. Yeah, that's a good point.

We'll do two more here from Amanda Grace, 1129. Will they reboot the entire Roanj cast or remove, Move the fighting parties. Fighting parties sounds sick, by the way. Fighting parties sounds cool. I don't know. I have no idea the direction they're going to take this show. I don't know what they want to do with this show.

The fighting parties could mean many things. The physically fighting parties, is it the Teresa versus Marge parties? Is it Teresa versus half the cast? Is it half the cast versus? There's too many factions now. Most of them don't get along with each other. So I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. Damn it. Me either. Sorry. Who knows? Sorry. Anybody know? No.

From Roanj, TB, thoughts on all the receipts that came out proving Teresa wanted to ruin her castmates. Are we surprised? Like, what more do you need? Yeah. Like, what more do you need? She did just actively on the show say that she wanted to ruin one of the castmates. So, yeah, I mean, she's obviously going to leave somebody out like Jen, Dolores, maybe Danielle, who knows how we look at the end of the season.

But, like, no, I'm not surprised. Not at all. And here's the thing. I'm not saying you can't be a Theresa. They might not even be real receipts, but I'm not surprised if they are. It just doesn't matter. I don't care if you're a Teresa fan. I don't look down on people that like Teresa.

My whole thing with that side of the street is if you are going to die on that hill, at least acknowledge some of the shit she does. That's all. Take accountability. If you're going to be a fan, you have to like her for everything. You can't just say, no-uh. Once again, no-un. is not a response.

No-uh. Webster's dictionary definitions, not a response. Correct. Use your brain. Brains. Anyway. Brains. I feel better.

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