Bros & Shows - Dorit Tells Camille 'See You Next Tuesday!' (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

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probably going to have to turn off the uh the chat on the right side because i am absolutely going to start reading and that is for you guys to go interact you can interact with us because we can't help ourselves from drifting over and look we make eyes at each other as we said yesterday i'm going to make eyes at the chat tonight yeah we're going to make eyes at the chat that's right that's what we're here to do but we're actually here to talk about a little beverly hills And holy shit. I love this episode. This was an absolute blast. I was not expecting the, I felt like I was back in Australia again with the amount of sea words being dropped. I'm not going to lie to you. Yeah. Yeah. This was one of those episodes that you could tell something was building. They did a lot of those scenes that were at the exact same time, just a little juxtaposition there, talking about the same thing from different perspectives, which always works out really well in all of these shows because everybody is very truthful about. the events that occurred and they're not at all biased which usually leads to a really good sit down

session of getting it all out and then making up at the end but then you throw camille in there and that's a real wild card so i'm really really pumped at the way that this episode ended because i did feel like it had that builds the whole time and how many times have we seen an episode build and build and built and then there's nothing or it's a to be continued this one was just firework after firework. It was so good at the very end at that denim and diamonds party. I loved every second of it. This was just really enjoyable to watch. And I'm so happy the Beverly Hills is back on their game because it was a little sad last year. And now we've got what, four or five episodes. Everybody was yelling at us last week saying it's only four episodes.

Stop getting on the bandwagon about getting Garcel. It's like, well, you know, this is how we work. This is how we do things. And we're not going to change because we like ourselves. But no, I agree with you. And it was actually interesting. You said the to be continued thing because after everything started popping off, I wasn't checking how much time was left. I was just waiting for it. I was like, this has got to be a two be continued.

It's too good. They're going to cut it off and carry it over into the next episode. They didn't. They let it go. I hope that it picks up where we left off this week, where they're still at the party because I need to see the conclusion of that conversation. I didn't see that happening. I was especially with Camille because I was like,

all right, she's back. We had heard that she's going to make some appearances. I was like, okay, didn't think she was going to come back like that. Loved how Doreet handled it. Love to rate this season. Before we dive into the episode, we have a little rumors to be discussed. Okay.

Because Carlos King, I believe, came out and said that the whole thing between Doreet and P.K. is staged because she knew she needed to put up Numbies this season. And I guess she's going to out some. big news that has to do with Kyle. Did I read that right? She has some bomb to drop. Yeah, there's some bomb to drop supposedly, which I think that they both can be true at the same time, and we could also get one without the other. Now, I'm fully in the camp of this isn't staged because I don't think that we would get this version of Doree. I don't think she's that good of an actor. I don't think so at all. And she's not. She's, she's raw. She's emotional. She's very reactionary.

you can tell that she's in her feels about it and I don't think that she would be feeling this way if the whole thing was staged and I you know you could say the same thing for the the truthers out there who think that the robbery was staged as well again I don't think that she'd be acting that way she had real PTSD from all of that

I have well I'm just saying what was posed in this episode we've talked about before that maybe Dorett did not know hint I think that's more likely or obviously it wasn't staged at all, but when it comes to their separation, I just don't see it because we've seen their relationship. Her and PK over the years, it was a failing relationship. We saw the weird therapist scene last year where PK was just disengaged, didn't want to hear

about it, basically said that her PTSD is annoying him. He's a terrible husband. Yeah, he said it was obnoxious. Like, it just wasn't a good marriage to begin with. And he's out gallivanting and jet, uh, what's the jet setting across Europe and going back to London Connoxious. Instead of going after his kids, he's sitting over there just enjoying himself over across the pond. So no, I just don't think this whole thing is staged. I think that we're getting a very raw and emotional Doreet. And I'm here for it because she's finally stepping up. And I love that we need to go back now, what is it, seven years ago, the tension between her and Camille.

That's seven years ago. And that's back when Doreet was activated. That's back, you know, the last like four seasons where Doreet's been boring. Everybody was like, yeah, we need season seven Doreet. well here you go right in front of your face and she just showed up tonight and i loved it yeah no i was surprised i didn't think she was going to come that heavy i mean we've gotten glimpses of it but i haven't seen season seven or eight so i was i've heard all about it dev has talked about it a lot she's like i wish you'd seen dureate back in the day because she could

hold her own i'm glad i got to get a glimpse of it last question then we're going to start the episode or to start diving into this episode did you see pk while you you You were jet-sitting over in London. No, no, I did not, thankfully. Okay. I was a very, yeah. Yeah, no, I didn't see little Ben either. You didn't find Little Ben?

Did you try? No. So I think that what the issue is, the bell on the inside of the clock tower is Big Ben. I know that. The whole building is not Big Ben. So maybe people call the building Big Ben when they don't realize it. And then they call the Bell Little Ben. That could be it.

no. I didn't see a little bed anywhere. Just big Ben. No, they took a picture next to a little bell tower and they called that little Ben. Don't make things up. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I'm not saying, no, somebody reached out in the DMs and said that that little clock tower was not actually a little bed. It's got a sillier name or a different name. God. We should brainstorm on what that name should be. Tiny Benjamin. Ben, uh, really didn't spray any muscles on that one. but yeah no i i absolutely would have gone over and said hi why not see what's going on oh he

he knows who we are he commented on our post about him and said that i would tell him that i know that santa claus is real and then i would ask him to debate me on santa claus was that a dig of us was he trying to say like are you too don't you still believe in santa clailish yeah but then i would say you know you don't buy gifts for your children where do you think they come from santa claus boom roasted nicely done and with that i think we can dive in and we start out with Kyle and Jennifer Tilly and we get to go into

I am so enamored with Jennifer Tilly and I've been I've said this before I've been a fan of hers for a long time Bride of Chucky like that whole series I love her and those so to see her embrace that shit in her little playhouse and then she goes through the list

where has she been why has it taken this long to get her on the show? She seems like a quintessential housewife she's quirky she's eccentric she has real wealth thanks to both her acting career and the simpsons and what was the other one uh cheers i think cheers yeah that's right and so she has like five different properties she's a professional poker player like where's she been why is it taking this long for us to dive into jennifer tilly's life because i would i think she should have been here for a long time yeah no i i fully agree and she is quirky and eccentric and

She is exactly what you want on this show. She's somebody that we know how much money she has. She talked about it. She's got Simpsons money. She's got, hey, eyes over here, pal. Stop reading that chat. I see you. Someone asks what snack they should get.

I'm like, ooh, what do I want? No, but like she has serious money, and she talks about how much she spends it on. And it's not just, you know, obviously she has the designer purses, but it's not a designer dress, a designer purse, a $35 million necklace or whatever the fuck it might be. She's just got a house next to another. house in Bel Air, which both of them are probably an exorbit amount of money, and they're right next to each other, and one of them's a playhouse. And she has another one on the beach. And she's got another one in probably in the mountain somewhere. She's got one in Vegas. Did you write it down?

Yeah, Vegas, yeah. We got one in Vegas. She's got one in Malibu that they don't go to. Because it's haunted. This is the type of wealth that I need. They do not go to the Malibu house because there's a ghost in it, which is also strange, considering she is in like the bride of Chuckie and all that she's got the bride of chucky doll correct and i thought that too and then i realized she probably at some point in her life tried to commune with ghosts and maybe she got a little spooked and then she has a lot of respect for ghosts now because of all of her horror background so she just lets that's that's that's that's on her on her resume it's great she's just yeah everything she's doing yeah no she's she's awesome i really enjoy her but we find out that kyle's having a party at her

house it's her first party without mo and uh sutton arrives during this conversation so she's these are the moments where i i feel for kyle and i think i will throughout the season because the adjustment to having her first like solo party how she didn't even know to put the invitations out is it kyle's party the umanski residence which i was like no that still gives moe playing to it that doesn't make any sense it should be either richards or kyle's party kyle kyle's house yeah yeah just kyle's house or just don't send invites, text people. I thought this was the first thing that she said that I thought was a little played up. Like, ah, all right, this Kyle's house is fine.

We don't have to go out on this road. Well, Humansky's residence doesn't make sense to me. That's why I was like, oh, that's still Moe's name. Yeah. So, but regardless, they start talking about the Doreet versus Sutton stuff. And Sutton's defense in this entire thing, Sutton, her argument is that Doreet missed the point, right? And she was trying to relay to the ladies that there's a way to communicate where we don't need to raise our voices. We don't need to hold grudges. We need to be able to talk.

But, and I love Sutton to death. But if you go back and watch that scene, it's like, if that's the message you're trying to send, you did raise your voice a little bit to Doreet. I think Doreet is the one that really escalated, like she really got into it. But I don't think that it was unwarranted entirely like Sutton was a little punchy in the sprinter fan. Granted, she was drinking vodka at 9 a.m. I've said this before. If you have a screwdriver, you're going to get a little rowdy in the morning. Orange juice and vodka for whatever reason gets you a little fired up, gets the hair standing up on your arms. You're going to talk some shit. So my question to you is, is Sutton, is this really like I want sisterhood? I want everyone to come

together or is this her trying to highlight that other people in the group were starting shit because she feels like she's been getting battered down for a while and like she doesn't want to be the one getting yelled at anymore no i think this is incredibly hypocritical of sudden for her to say any of this and try to do this whole kumbaya thing and how many times does she try to do this now she's getting like a little bit more confidence after last season i guess so now she thinks she thinks that she can bring people together because what her and erika friends now? Like it's delusion. You can't be that person because not everybody in the group likes you that much. They tolerate you. So her thinking this is pure delusion and it's also hypocritical

because you're going to be the first one when push comes to shove to start yelling in somebody's face. You're going to yell ma'am 15 times in a row. You're going to egg Kyle on and say name them, name them, name them, which by the way, fun, iconic, enjoyable, really like watching that. But you can't be the one to say we need to have a kumbaya moment. It just doesn't make any sense. and no one's going to listen to you. So I don't know if it's her trying to. Is it false confidence given to her because she made nice with Erica, Jane? That's what it is.

I think that's what it is. I think that's what I'm leaning on here. Yeah. Okay. Well, the other thing that we get from this scene is we find out that although, yes, it was explosive. Yes, they went out each other. Kyle and Derreet both because Derreet echoes this sentiment later with Erica.

That was a step forward for them. So they both feel like the air was cleared a little bit. it sets them up to be able to move forward. I'm curious about what that route looks like only because of how volatile Dorit is right now. Granted. And I think that when she talks about it later, like it makes sense, given where her life is at at the moment, she's not going to be the most agreeable. I think that's going to be difficult because she has felt slighted for so long by Kyle.

Like she's going to harbor resentment. She's going to harbor those feelings against her for her to be able to have those conversations with Kyle, where she's going to have to sit and listen to Kyle's issues with her, I think she's going to get too defensive every time. And I'm not saying that Kyle's issues are going to be valid because we've seen what her evidence is thus far. And it's shoddy to say the least. But at the same time, if you want to mend this friendship, she's going to have to eat some shit. And I don't think she's going to be able to just given where she's at right now. Yeah, I don't think, I think Doreat's mentality,

could go one of two ways, though. There is a potential for the two of them to get back together. And Derreet wants that acceptance. I think right now she just wants to be heard. And she's still in the process. And look, we all know Doreet is very long-winded. Who's to say that this whole process right now isn't long-winded in itself? And she's going to drag out her erring grievances with Kyle for week after week after week until she gets it all out of her system. And then she's tired and done with and she feels like she's got it done. There's a good like coming together moment that could happen there and I think she does want Kyle's acceptance and she just wants Kyle to hear her with all of her problems. After that, I think that they could be friends.

I think that it could go right back to how it was and she would forgive her for everything. But right now, between that and how emotional she is and how raw she is right now with the PK thing, we don't really know what she's going to do. I mean, she could pop off like we saw last week where Sutton was actually trying to call out Erica and Kyle for talking under their breath. She was trying to defend her. She was trying to help, and then she immediately snaps on her. So I think we're still a few weeks out, and we don't know where this whole PK separation thing is going to go. We don't know where her emotions are going to go.

So I don't know if I think if she gets to a better place with that, and then she gets all of her shit out, then her and Kyle can come back together. But right now, I just don't see it going either way. She needs an emotional enema, to get all the shit out. Yeah, she could probably go to Jennifer Tilly's house and get an exorcism. That, I'm sure happens. I mean, no, I don't, why that doesn't make sense? Because then they would have done that with the Malibu house.

So no, they don't. No, she wants to leave the ghost alone. Again, she respects the ghost. But if Jareep wants an exorcism, you can get it done at Jennifer Fertili's. Someone said in the comments, oh, God, gross. It's emotional. It's not real. It's emotional shit.

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But we keep moving. We get to Erica Jane and Dorit. And the first thing that they talk about is the fact that Derreet hasn't spoken to PK. In two weeks, I don't care if you're trying to break the codependency thing. I don't care if you're trying to set boundaries. I don't care if you're trying to make a statement. You have kids together. You have children.

How the fuck are you not communicating? And they're not like teenagers where it's like, oh, you know vaguely what they're doing. Like, they're children. You got to check in and see how the kids are. Are you kidding me? Like, he doesn't have any time to call her and be like, hey, just wanted to check in and see how my little lads are doing. That's embarrassing.

I feel like, these are the moments where I'm like, fuck, this really, really sucks for Doreet because I know damn well, P.K. is having the time of his life. He's walking around in new clothes going, it's my single outfit being a total dickhead. Meanwhile, she's over here stressing because she hasn't talked to him in two weeks. That's a substantial amount of time to not reach out and ask about your kids. Yeah, no, I fully agree. I think it's going to come full circle. he's going to get his time in the sun

and he's going to be happy, single P.K. While Doreet is depressed and sad and doesn't know how to go about things and then eventually she's going to learn how to move on with her life. She's going to learn how to live life without PK. And that's about the same time. The P.K. is going to say, holy shit, I can't get someone as gorgeous as to read.

I can't get someone as good of a mother as to read. I'm old and look gross. So what am I supposed to do? Who's going to tell me what clothes to buy? These are my single clothes, but she picked them out at one point in time. and now I've got nobody to help they pick them out, and he's going to want to come clawing back,

and she's going to be done with them. That's what happens every single time with all of these situations with these dickhead guys. They always do that, and I don't think it's going to work out well for him. Yeah, I really hope that's what ends up happening, like just this come to Jesus moment, and he comes crawling back, and it's just too late,

and she just turns her nose up and goes off with some smoking hot, like 25-year-old lifeguard that she meets, I don't know, at the Malibu Ghost House. That's really tying that one in every time. There's a movie there because that's a movie where she thinks that she falls in love, but it's actually a ghost at Jennifer Tilly's house.

But she thinks it's a, and that ghost helps her heal from her trauma with P.K. Is there pottery involved in this one? Oh, no, you can't do that. That's a one and done. That scene with Swayze and, and, uh, to me, that will live forever. no one needs to recreate that scene leave ghost alone that movie's perfect although it gave me

nightmares because of the the demons you know the shadows that come out and grab them try to take him to hell no they that one guy they take them to hell that i watched that movie on a road trip in the minor leagues when my dad was a manager i was like oh this was when you were in the minor leagues and you got scared no no no no this when i was a kid traveling around with my dad in the minor leagues which is a great place for it to be but they watched that on the bus and i remember that scene vividly, and it gave me nightmares for a long. I thought that ghosts were going to come out of the vents and drag me down to hell for probably too long.

It's still good. Well, no, you know, Dev told me that they can't fit through our vents, so we're good. Who says who? Dev. Don't make me talk about your house again. You want to talk about the children's drawings in the basement? Yeah. Oh, God.

Children ghosts can definitely get through those vents. They're, oh my God, those, I'll post those, uh, the drawings on our account one day. Because under them, I'm afraid if I, what is this, poltergeist? I swear to God, bro. I'm afraid if I cover them up, but I'm going to piss off. Like, I don't not believe in ghosts. I'm not like, oh, yeah, they're real.

But I'm like, it's one of those I'd rather not fuck with it. It's like when we went to Pocono with everybody and you guys want to do the Ouija board. I'm like, please don't. Like, just in case, on the record. you did not right but i don't under that exactly i'm the one that's like let's just not just in case i will post we have people in the comments asking to post the drawings i will they i have a staircase in my basement which is not finished and when i was renovating i was i opened up the cupboard under the stairs like oh this is like literally in my head going this is kind of creepy and of course

on the fucking wall it's just children's drawings and it's like guns and a skull and crossbones and it says shoot to kill because i believe they were playing army that's the vibe i got but it could also just be murderous ghost children in my basement just fighting crossbones tells me pirates though it wasn't it's not that kind of vibe i'll show it to you one day i'll take you down there and i'll lock you in the cupboard and see what happens uh but let's go back on track i got really that's a hell of a tangent but anyway we get back it's a juxtapose scene at this point because you have erika jay and Doreet talking about the hypocrisy that they see that Sutton's giving. At the same time, you have Sutton talking about the fact that all she was trying to do is mend fences.

But I think I'm not totally on one team or the other. I see what Sutton's trying to do. I do think there's an air of false confidence there and lack of self-awareness in just being able to acknowledge. I think it would do her a lot of favors in this process to acknowledge the fact that she is tough to get along with sometimes and she does snap and maybe pose it as I'm trying to work on this myself. Why don't we as a group try to work on this too? I think that would probably land better because I can see what Erica and Doreet are talking about.

Yeah. I feel like that goes to say for pretty much any conflict in these shows. If you take some sort of responsibility on yourself and say, hey, I need to work on these things too, but it would be easier if the rest of the group did as well, it would go a long way. But if you just say the group needs to work on this, then all of a sudden it's like, well, what about you? And that's pretty much what this turns into. Yeah, more or less.

But the conversation gets derailed because of an antique clock, which was comically long as it rang. And I love that she's just every time it rings, Jennifer Tilley says a new fact about it. Oh, that's my antique clock. Ding. It's really old. Ding. That was shares clock. Ding.

It's perfect. Let's keep going. And I like this scene a lot. And I know we said last week that. we wanted more to Garcel. Maybe we jumped the gun and should have waited until this episode because she 100% showed up. That's all we were saying.

We love when Garcel is involved because she's so good. We've been used to that. We got a little money. So you're saying that the comments were right, that it's only been four episodes. We need to chill. No, I'm saying partly, but I'm also saying our qualm was we felt like it was part of last season as well carrying over. We weren't just basing it off of the four episodes.

I'm not going back into that. I'm simply saying Have you thought about where she came from? She was big in the 90s. That whole thing. We never said that. We knew where she came from. They're like, yeah.

There's nothing to do with it. That had nothing to do with it. We are well aware of her. She was big in season seven and she hasn't been doing anything since then. Does that matter? No. We said she should get kicked off the show like 15 times. But whatever.

The point is she showed up this episode and it was really awesome to see. We've heard about the beach house for a while. We know how hard she's worked for the beach house. and to see this whole thing finally come to fruition we saw the the purchase of it that was three years ago right three seasons ago so we saw her walk through it was a smaller house it needed to be completely redone leveled start over from scratch and to see this whole thing come to fruition like i said was pretty special and i love the fact and this is also why it's easier to read sutton i think because when she's a real friend with somebody this is what it looks like She shows up in a U-Haul, she's got her Rosie the Riveter outfit on, and she's ready to move boxes, and she is just enamored by Garcel, which she should be, because this is all really cool. And they get to the beach house. It looks amazing. Wait, before we get to the beach house, Garcell said it's less than an hour drive to the beach house.

Is anything less than an hour drive in L.A.? I knew exactly what she was doing there. And I do it all the time. I always downplay the amount of time that it takes to get someone. I'm like, it's like an hour. And that means like an hour, 20, hour 30. Out there, it's like three hours. Oh, definitely, because traffic is traffic.

Traffic is traffic. Good enough. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Traffic is traffic, guys. That's what you guys are here for. Yeah, we all know it. Traffic is traffic. Chapstick is chapstick.

Yeah, we could do this with everything. But, yeah, I do think it probably took longer than just a quick jaunt an hour away. But regardless, Sutton and Garcell have a little powwow on the, and I as they look off at the beautiful view, and it's touching to hear Garcel talk about Jacks. Jacks is the super duper mature one, correct? The one that speaks like he's 30 years old already. Yeah.

I can hear him saying this to her where, and I think that this probably landed even heavier for Garcel because he's such a tough kid and because we've seen him pretty much say, I don't really need you to be my mom anymore. Like, I got this under wrap. So for him to say to her, you've given us a life, like an incredible life. already. You've done all of this as a single mom. I'm sure that was such a big moment for Garcel to hear that and just not confirmation because she has to know how incredible her journey has been to get to this point. But just hearing that had to feel good coming from

Jacks, the acknowledgement from him that, yes, he is still your son. He does talk like he's a 30-year-old adult. He's very mature, but he is still your son. There is gratitude there. You are kicking ass this house rocks so i thought this whole thing was really sweet between her and sutton and sutton starts crying because she's like you don't get a lot from your kids and now i'm getting emotional at home because i'm like jesus poppy's not going to say anything to me when she's older and scotty's going to hate me when she's a teenager i'm not ready for that it was just a nice scene but they start to talk about the shift in the group and there's a lot of shifts going on, namely between now as Doreet and Sutton has taken center stage because Kyle and Dorete for all

intents and purposes are ready to move forward. At least they both say it's a good step forward. And when you see it at the party later, I think what that is going to end up being, I don't, again, I think Doreet's going to be too volatile to hear things for a little while. That could have been essentially the end of the Kyle and Dorete feud. because of this new Sutton and Durit feud. I think Kyle could have stepped in while Derrit was doing that and took her off to the side, been like, hey, I know you're going through it.

Like, that could have been it. I don't think it's going to be. I think it could have been. But it would have been the perfect deflection. And it's the perfect opportunity. But again, we keep going back to, does Kyle actually want to be friends with Derreet? And my answer is still no.

I don't think that she wants to put up with it. I don't think she wants to put the energy into it. That looks like somebody because you have to take the chances when you get the opportunity to do it, she's not even looking for chances or opportunities. She just wants it all to end so that she can go on with her life and she doesn't want to put the effort back into it. If Dorek comes back to her,

then she'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah, whatever, like we can be friends again. As long as it's very low maintenance, we don't have to talk about anything unless I need to talk to you about it. Otherwise, don't worry about it. That seems like what I'm getting from her. That's the vibe I'm getting.

That's all the energy that I'm getting. So, yeah, and under normal circumstances, that's a great opportunity. Deflect, go over to a Sutton, Start talking shit on Sutton and say, hey, wow, you know what? I know you're going through stuff. I can't believe what she did in there trying to drag me back into it after we repaired our friendship the night before. That would have gone so far with Doreet, Doreet would have been friends with her again.

She would have come over for lunch the next day. Instead, she's like, yeah, whatever. I'm going to talk about it, but I don't really, I don't need to do this. Yeah, no, I agree with you. But the biggest thing that comes from this, and this is a rumor that we like to talk about when the robbery happened. because obviously we've all gone through it over and over again. There's a lot of strange things that occurred during it. Now, we've seen the PTSD and we've seen the effect that it's had on Doreet.

I think it's fairly obvious that what she went through was very real. We have speculated jokingly, and we threw an alleged out there every time just to make sure that, oh, maybe P.K. knew about it and Dorete didn't. The fact that Carl Selle brings this up on camera, I was like, holy, shit. I'm like, is that what we're going to do this season? Because I'm down for it. I'm ready for that. And to the point that PK has already come out in, I don't know if it was on Instagram, some public forum, and literally said that didn't happen. And now he's going on the defensive. So it's causing some drama. I hope that this is something that we dig into for an extended period of time. I don't. Really? No, not at all. Look, I want it. I want it.

As much as I want to know what happened, we're never going to know. It's now, we're never going to know let's just accept that and move on with our lives but how derit is and i think we both agree if this was set up in some way shape or form through pk through whatever drit was still the victim of all of this and she was still fucked up from this for a very long time she's probably still fucked up from this do we really need to start digging into this and bringing that back up while der reet's like this like at the end of the day yes we do like where der reed is right now for the tv because she's activated but it's through a separation with pk which we all agree she's better off without him he's a scumbag so just move on and get into a better life

i don't want her to have to relive that trauma on top of it just because we want to go digging into whether or not it's true because we're never going to find out so it's just kind of useless for me and it just adds to her issues and i don't i don't really want to go through that for her sake and for ours but i would argue that there was ever a time for her to clap back and not be bogged down by digging back into it it's when she's like this like if she hears people talking about i think she'd be more capable of defending herself i get what you're saying yeah i think it would go a completely different way yeah i don't think that she'd defend herself like even better i think that she would then go on further the wrong way for her emotions i don't know i kind of want to talk about it more

yeah i know you do but it's more speculation like we're never going to find out what happens we just have to live with that well we'll see what comes from it but the Next scene, I got to give, because we talk about Bravo therapists a lot, right? Yeah. I got to give credit to Erica Jane's therapist because she seems to know her very well, and she seems to have very sound advice. We don't get a lot of scenes like this where it's like, oh, wow, that seems like a real thing a therapist would say.

We saw who was the guy, was it Mo and Kyle's? It was Kyle's life coach last year. That dude, yeah, he was bizarre. And then there was another one. Oh, it was, God, it was, fuck, was that Atlanta? Was it O.C. Oh, Atlanta, yeah, it was the marriage. With Ralph and Drew and Ralph.

That guy was horrible. Like, he shouldn't be licensed to be a therapist. So to see somebody. Usually any therapist that we see, we're like, ah, take their license away. We're done with this guy. Yeah, that doesn't seem legit. She, Erica Jane's therapist seems legit. She's talking about it's her fourth year in this house.

Remember when she moved into this house, how daunting of a premise it was. It was more a mirror of just where her life has gone versus, okay, this is your new life. And I think it's cool that she stepped into this new life. I do think that we have talked about this three years now. We've talked about leaving Tom. We've talked about the transition into the new life. This is the step into the new life. Okay, cool.

What is she going to do, though? We talked about the shows last year. It's all about her getting back on her feet, which is great. fun I don't feel like she's doing a whole lot like within the group what's the word dynamic no the group dynamic yeah like she's trying to stay out of things because she's in a peaceful era okay great it's just I feel like this whole journey to this moment of oh I want this house to be my sanctuary yeah that's that's awesome and I'm glad you're able to work through your shit I'm glad that this therapist does seem to have a good read

on you to the point where she's saying when you get so mad at Sutton, it's not actually you getting mad at Sutton. This is just your reaction when you get challenged. You get checked and you immediately say, fuck you. That's just you. That's who you are. I think that you project that on to Sutton. She's like, oh, wow, that's a really good point. What else did she say? They were talking more so about the pizza party and how Sutton orchestrated a pizza party for Kyle so that we could find out how she is, have everybody come over in pajamas, just have a really low-key night and talk about everything, I didn't get a fucking pizza party. And the therapist rightfully says, well, yeah, because your divorce was so volatile,

and you were volatile during that entire thing. And that's what I go back to all the time. And this is why I, I guess this is the first season that now I'm looking at Erica and saying, all right, what are you doing? Like, you're not getting involved. You're staying out of things. And while that's good for your psyche, it's not good for the show, because we do need an Erica Jane enforcer.

We need somebody to just step on somebody's neck in the middle of all. these things. Right now we're getting out of Doreet. We're getting that out of Sutton. We didn't expect to see that years ago. We're not still not really sure. Sutton a little more believable. Doreet, no. No, absolutely not. Dereet, we said all season last year, get off the show. You're not doing anything. Yeah, seriously. And that's pretty much where we are right now, but we need her to get back. And now I'm starting to call for her to come back. The reason that we didn't the last couple of years was because she was so much two years ago, three years ago, whenever that season was that she started using those hard tease at the end of her sentences it was the midst of the tom gerard like right at the beginning

and she was and the and the fucking hearings that we had to keep hearing about like it was it was too much and then that's when that was the lexapro booze era yeah and she started to have a bit of a softer side after that and it was refreshing and last year was still refreshing but this year it's like all right step up do something you're in a better spot the way that she's communicating with her therapist which obviously you're going to communicate a little bit differently you're going to be a little more self-involved and actually open up and say well yeah no, yeah, you're right. Like, I would do those things or that is how I feel. We're going to see those things with a therapist, but seeing that with other people and her actually getting involved

is the next step. And we need her to get to that next step and stop living in this like medium life because it's not working for the show and it's not working for her character on this show. And look, you keep talking about getting back to Erica Jane and getting a new house and doing this and that and whatever. You need to perform on the show to do that first. And then you'll start landing brand deals. You'll start doing all of these other things. So that is what you need and that's what we need. Yeah, no, I agree. And I hope she's able to find there's a middle ground there somewhere between the EJ of old and this newfound piece where it's like, you know, you don't have to just go off on people. It could be warranted. And then you unleash hell. I haven't

seen her like scream and tear somebody down since the Lexapro booze era in the hotels when she would like lose her shit because somebody would ask her about Tom or the court date or or question. the reason, like, why is she not talking about it? And that got tired, too. But I agree with you. And I'm not saying, like, it is nice to see her get through this whole thing and come out on the other side. And she is now, yes, she's thankful for her new life. Thankful for her new. She wants the house to reflect that she's feeling great. This is all great for you, the person. I need Erica Jane that can throw a haymaker, but can also be nice now. That would be a good combo. So I'm curious if that's going to be her route this season. Time will tell. as we like to say around here. But let's get on to Kyle's party. And the first thing, Erica hasn't ridden a bull since her great grandmother's funeral. What?

Bull riding. You've heard of that? You're from the south? Come on. I've never been to a funeral with bull riding. I think that I'm going to have a bull at mine. I think that because of this, I'm going to have an electric bull at my.

Oh, no. Oh, my God. this is so much better. The coffin will be the bull. So you have to ride me. Get to ride you one last time, huh? Book up, cowboy.

That's funny. I feel like I want my funeral to be funny. Like, I don't want it to be all sad and shit. Or like, you know, you put a... You're not there. You put like a manician. Yeah, I know, but, you know, afterlife, we'll see what happens. Maybe I can, like, I'll huck Finn this thing. Who knows? But, like, yeah, you like that reference?

Or is that Tom Sawyer? It's Huck Finn. It's Huck Finn. You made me question myself. No, I was saying good job. My other, someone said I derailed. This is, oh, no, this is, I'm right on track. I am right on track.

You just listen to us? Okay, my other idea. This I've had for a long time. So I just want to be cremated. I think it's easier for my family, just like pour me out somewhere. But I want to have a funeral with a coffin and like a mannequin in it that looks kind of like me. and, like, midway through, have it go, phew, and, like, pop out. Yeah, I get one of those, like, paper-miche ones that's super creepy, but it kind of looks like that.

Oh, yeah. And it just, like, midway through, it just, the top slowly opens, like, and everyone just kind of leans forward, and then it goes, boom, and I just pop out as a mannequin, and everyone loses their shit. And then confetti drops, and it says, let's party, and then everyone can just get drunk at my funeral or something. I don't care. Can I also puppeteer that matter? Oh, you're out living me. Yeah, yeah. this time i am usually i say i'm not but yeah you can't put here the mannequin yeah i'm cool with that yeah that could be your i don't want to give this you can't give a speech at my funeral i'll let you

puppeteer my dead body mannequin um i thought you said you wanted your funeral will be fun i i i'll make way too many jokes yeah but they would be way too dark they i would you be going too far of course they're going to be dark what do you know and then people like you know other people would be like oh god i think you'd go too far you're way too far Oh, who cares? Oh, what's this? I gotta read that one. There's a service here where you can pay someone to rock up to your funeral and reveal all of your secrets or final words.

Oh, that's interesting. I like that too. See, that's all far. Or you can plant somebody in a tree now? I don't know. I love my family. I don't want them knowing all my dark secrets. The dark secrets, no.

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or make appearances this season. And Kyle, the more she talks about the situation with Mo, the more delusional, I think she is about it. I don't mean that in a mean way, because again, I feel for Kyle only with this stuff. The other stuff, you know, is same old Kyle deflecting whatever. This stuff I feel bad about. But as Camille's going through her situation, she's like, oh, man, I remember those days because she's talking, Kyle's one that mentioned the Bachelor bad. And she's like, oh, like, young girls, this, that, the other. Kyle's in a confession, like, I think Camille's projecting right now. Like, okay, Mo's got a couple things. But Mo's taking shirtless videos, do

body shots with like 20 year olds so very public like more so than camille's thing yeah because social media wasn't as big back then like we see everything most doing one two he came over to your house in the last episode and laughed the entire time do you want to take the dog fuck no to my bad absolutely not and like as she's saying like yeah this is kind of hard he's just like yeah i want to fucking leave i got to be at the bar in an hour like what are we doing in her. So I don't think that Camille's projecting. I think she's trying to relate to you because I think it's a very similar thing. It's a very similar thing. And we saw that last week and we've seen it before where Kyle is in denial about how this divorce is actually going to go. She talks about

the divorce proceedings. And we saw this in what? We just saw this in Potomac with Stacy. Stacey was the same way. Stacey walked into those court, into those meetings thinking, oh, everything's going to be great he was so nice to me it's very amicable nothing bad's going to happen thank god that she had joselle and karen to sit down with her because they told her hey it's not going to be like that once money gets involved you're fucked and you need to go in there and be somewhat headstrong kyle's doing the same thing so camille coming in here while i do think that she's projecting and yes i do think she's just trying to have a moment as duret says later and she's trying to get everything out there so we're all like oh my god i can't believe you're doing that like none of us care yeah we just do not care

nobody's happy that you're back whatever i don't even know why you're here but it is funny you are kind of a punching bag right now no she she played well in this episode because of all the shit she took from doree yeah exactly but kyle is in absolute denial about how this is going to happen and i look you look super sad while he's sauntering around the house and you're talking about the color of the bathroom that you painted and he goes i don't give a fuck about what color of the bathroom is doesn't matter to me i'm not going to live here whatever like it he's like it's your fucking bathroom lady i got i've got i've got a gold toilet in my bathroom because i want to buy the most outlandish shit because the agency's worth a hundred billion dollars and i just have monopoly money

do i leave now and no i'm not taking your fucking dog like it's i don't think it's as yeah i think she's she's delusional right now which you know it's kind of tough to watch but whatever we get to the party itself and i love again this is why i keep asking where has jennifer tilly been She wants to get overdressed for everything. She's like, I have these expensive dresses, this expensive jewelry, these extravagant things. I'm going to go to Starbucks decked out because fuck it. Why not? I'm like, you are a housewife.

Where the fuck have you been? Why are you just now coming on the show? Maybe it was the right time because if she'd come into last season, which we did not enjoy the season prior, we didn't love. So maybe it's good that she's coming into a good year so that we have a better environment. Yeah, because when you throw somebody new into. to just a terrible environment. It never really works out. You might be as a lone shining star out there

that we get to talk about. You and I sit here. They're like, wow, Jennifer Tilley was delightful. The rest of the episode was hot garbage. Like Anne-Marie. You don't want to do that. Yeah, like, well, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, no, like Anne-Marie.

She was actually perfect for this. That would be great for her this season. Yeah, she just entered a bad, she was into a bad season. There's a bad edit. It's a bad edit. That's bad edit. She's still, grow, she still is. Like a month or two ago, she did an interview and claimed bad edit.

Who's the jackass that's interviewing her? I have no idea. Nor am I going to look it up. I'm not going to give them another click. It was probably two teas. Ryan Stomeman in here? Honestly, yeah, I don't think Ryan's here. Yeah, I wouldn't actually be surprised if it was them.

But we get to the party itself. Bose arrives after taking a trip. That's cool of shit that they just pick a different place. I love the daughter's idea to go to one. continent they need to go to every single continent i need to know about the antarctic trip yeah do you believe that there's ice walls built around the world that we can't get fast all right cool we're on the same pyramids down there and everything yeah yeah we need to we need craig back on to do another conspiracy episode there's a huge like electromagnetic

field down there that power something that we don't know about well there is a neutrino detector down there that is you know what that is you know what neutrinos are tell us all like the smallest particles possible and they're so small that they can travel through solid matter and they come from like the sun and from the big man sure and the neutrinos come in to it's a gigantic hole with these sensors all along the side and the bottoms fill with water and these neutrinos as they pass through because it's so quiet because it's so still and because it has these sensors they can pick up these tiny little particles and these tiny little particles can help to explain questions that we have about the universe.

Some people say that it's a way to build a super weapon and you can harness the power of them and turn it into the power of sun. Are you just making the death star? I mean, that's kind of what people have pointed to a little bit. I don't believe that part. I would love to be on the planet that has, if we're on a death star,

like that would be great. Then we have a threat and we're like, nah, we've got a death star. See ya. You want to be, so you want to be Darth Vader? Yes.

Essentially. Or the emperor. Palpatine. No, not Palpa Goots. Palpa Goots. Palpa Goots. Darth Gooter. Darth Gooter.

I guess Darth Gooter makes more sense. Anyway, let's keep on trucking. We're going to be here all night. As Garcell is getting a tattoo from Wes. She gets 11-11 on her wrist, and Sutton comes over to chat with her. And she says she had a heartfelt conversation with Kyle, but she wishes they could go a little bit deeper. And Garcell drops. on Sutton that PK still texts Kyle the thing that was strange to me is

Sutton defends the behavior like I mean they were always close you always thought the PK was really funny Garcell's confessional is exactly how I felt he's like as soon as that separation occurs this is inappropriate yeah that's not okay you can't be texting Kyle PK you won't even text your wife you're texting Kyle that's we talked about this last week and This was one of the nice things that we said about Garcel and what she might do moving forward is hold on to that nugget of information that Kyle just divulged you and give it to somebody who's going to blow it up some way. She gave it to Sutton thinking, here's a hot little piece of tea, here you go. Now you can go blow up the next time that Dorit's freaking out at you.

You can just yell this in her face. And Sutton had a bizarre reaction. It made no sense to me. You would think if any sane person heard that. piece of information, they'd be like, well, that's fucking bizarre. That makes no sense. You would have the thought like, okay, yeah, they were all weirdly close, but now, Dorett's acting, or Kyle's acting like, Doret's not even her friend. So like, how much did they actually hang out? Why is P.K. texting Kyle, but he's not texting Doret in the last two weeks and he has kids

with her. Like, none of this makes sense. This is bizarre. The rest of the group needs to hear this. That's a normal reaction. Instead, we just get excuses. And somehow to her, trying to make it make sense to us. I just didn't really get this at all. And Garcel did neither because this is what we said last week. Garcel's going to give it to somebody. She did and it didn't work out. So now she's like, what the fuck? Did I give it to the wrong person? No, because it could still come back at Derreet. Could. I think that, look, if they continue down this path, I think it'll come out against Dorit at some point. But I thought it was just a strange reaction, but it did remind me, did you see the paparazzi photos of Derreet leaving

Moe's place. Yeah. Because we speculated on this. That was a while ago, wasn't it? It was like a month ago. Maybe. It wasn't just about that long. Chad wound off because I thought it was very recent.

And we said it, there was that one episode. It was either last year or the year prior, I think it was last year because Kyle and Moe were having issues, the way that she like caressed his back in that one point, there was a, there was a certain moment where she was touching him. I was like, oh, that's not how you touch her. I think we said they could be swingers, and that would explain that's what it was. That's right. Yeah.

But, and that still makes perfect sense to me, honestly. Although I can't, I can't think of Kyle and Pekai that one, maybe they just watched. Oh, no, PK had the cuff chair. Yeah, he definitely had the cuck chair. And Bugs Bunny was there, too. Oh, God. Don't bring T.J. into this. I would have, I just, I just want to reference the Bugs Bunny thing, like, every chance that I get.

I've actually done it like three times today at normal conversations. That's great. can't get over it yeah if you guys don't watch potomac and you don't know what the bugs bunny thing is do yourself a favor and research t j because that was that's still so strange like what a bad fucking answer that was but anyway let's keep truck and we get bo's der reet erika jane and they're talking about the sutton stuff and i like bows a lot and i really like this move because she listened to what was said on the bus she listened to what the issue is now because sutton wants people to come together or not talk shit don't talk by on people's back

she was like okay time out you two let's rally the troops and get everybody over here i was like that's what sutton wants so let's get the whole crew together and they all join this conversation sutton starts instantly and she immediately leads off with the sisterhood shit i get what she's trying to do but again i feel like it would serve you way better to enter into the conversation more gently and acknowledge because the way that she's doing it is acting as though she doesn't do this stuff. If she was to acknowledge that she is part of the problem sometimes, I think it would land differently, but it's coming off preachy.

She does later because somebody, I think Erica finally checks her. She's like, you do that. And she's like, I know. That's why I'm trying to work on it. It's like, we'll say that in the beginning. Right. So we know where this is coming from because as of now, it looks like you're pointing the finger at other people in the group and taking no accountability for yourself no that's exactly what

i was thinking that's what we've been thinking the entire time that sutton's been going on about this sisterhood it's not a sisterhood like i'm sorry it's just not how many times have we looked at this and said you guys aren't really all friends you guys only get together and sutton real friends i thought to read yeah and then erika could be a friend to both of those sides but not as much garcel and Sutton so it's just like a complete like mismatched group all hanging out at one time it's not a sisterhood just because you guys are on the same TV show so I think that that entire thing is just horseshit to begin with like you don't have to all do it it's just kind of stupid because you're all at the end of the day it's every person for themselves that's that's what we have here

everybody's trying to make a name for themselves or you know most of you already have but you're still trying to make sure that you can solidify your spot that's all you're really trying to do you're trying to do this and yeah you're going to make friends along the way but you're not all in this together though it would be boring you can't all be a sisterhood that would suck we wouldn't want to watch that what are we going to do sister of the traveling pants supposed to be a good feel good story no we don't watch this for a feel good story come on nice call back there well done yeah but i i think eric i handle it fairly well she's like i like the sentiment i like what you're trying to do but you're a volatile you're inconsistent it goes to a confessional with jennifer tilly who

seems to be one of if not Sutton's best friend right and she's like I think that was a dig I do concur that is she volatile is a great way to describe her and we've seen it happen like you've seen it happen in previous seasons we saw it last year with the strippers yeah like something kind of pushes her over the edge and yeah she snaps a little bit so the acknowledgement there would I think it would play much better than it's currently playing but Doreet jumps in and says you overreact when you're stressed. We see it happen immediately. Sutton starts to raise her tone, voice gets a little bit louder.

I thought Doreet was being genuine and being like, dude, don't do that. Like, don't raise your voice. I'm in a weird place. I don't want to be talked to like that. I think she's trying to genuinely be like, we can do this, but don't get here with it. Stay right here and we can talk this out. the Sutton starts to whisper. I'm like, oh, fuck.

I'm like, here we go. Like, this is going to go. Where's the sisterhood? Where's the sisterhood here? Like, if you're trying to push this narrative for us all, you're trying to make everybody get along and have a kumbaya moment, you can't then just do this to work. You can't just completely turn the table and be like,

no, I'm going to be a dickhead now. I'm going to do this. I know Sutton loves the word dickhead. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know.

Sutton is, uh, she's on the campaign with us to bring the word dickhead back to mainstream. It's a great insult. It's a Philly insult. if you don't say it where you're from start saying it it lands well every time yeah you can even say it in like a light fun way no you dickhead you silly little dickhead it's getting late um i think that the dynamic in this whole group is actually better than sutton actually makes it out to be because they've all kind of accepted this chaos and that shows up in this moment where Sutton's going after to read and saying you don't listen you never listen you never

Listen, the whole group echoes, yeah, we know. We can't get her to shut up half the time. Like, we're aware of who Doreet is. Doret's aware of who Doret is. That was like a weird moment where everyone in the group is on the same page. I'm like, maybe embracing the chaos is the way to go. Maybe just accepting that you guys have weird shit. And I think Sutton said it best early on and needed to stick to that where she's talking in

Jennifer Tilly's house and says, Doreet and I will work it out eventually. We will move on from this. I think that can be said about 90% of the relationships here. At some point, we see it in every housewife show. You will have a moment where you can move on. That will happen at some point. Don't force it by trying to do some sisterhood shit. Just see when that moment occurs.

I thought that moment happened when you had the heart to heart with Dorit in the first episode. Of course, shit popped off since then. But there is a road back, not when you're mocking Dorit and whispering at her. And then Doreet whispers back to her and that was it. And now my God, it's all gone now. Everything's fucked. I think even Garza, or no, Erica was like, don't do that. Doreet, like don't do that.

But it's too late for that. And she drops a bomb on her that we all, it's true. We all know it's true. Doreet knows it's true. She's like, you're not mad at me. You're not angry at me. You're angry at your life. That, too far.

You went too far. Yes. We all know this. You're not mad at me. You're mad at your father. You're not mad at me. at me you're mad at your daddy you're right to hate me on her was to score the game last night who cares oh man i haven't watched big daddy in a minute but she keeps going and that was that

was the bigger issue because then sutton's like it's not my fault you're in the position you're in der reet says i know i'm aware my life sucks right now and the last thing i need is to be putting up with anybody's bullshit i have zero room for it i'm not not going to sit here and listen to it. How's that for transparency? She dropped, I'm like, I think you won. Pretty good. I think you won so far.

I didn't know you could win more. You're about to because Camille decides to drop in. Before that, I do have to get Bo's credit because. Yeah, I like Bose's input here. Yeah, she's like, we can do this, but you can't weaponize her pain. She's like, what are you talking about? It's like the way that you just threw that dart back at her, she was, we all know this like everyone watching the show knows this by you pointing it and sticking it back at her

that's going to sting intentionally and you know what you're doing and if you want to lead the charge of sisterhood bo's is 100% correct and we can't use our pain and fuck with each other because that's never going to work out as we're seeing right now but then camille stops to jump in and i guess she lost her house i don't know this story because this is before my time in uh rob her but Camille Joneson says, I lost my house in a fire. I lost my assistant. I have a question for the chat. Did the assistant die?

No. Okay. No way. That's confusing to say it. I was confused too. I was very confused too, but there's no way. Did she just lose the assistant? Did the assistant die?

I think so, yeah. Okay. So the assistant did pass away. Just not in the fire. Not in the fire. Okay. Yeah. All right.

All right. All right. It's a valid question, though. I thought, right? It's confusing. He died. So, thanks, bro. I just said he died.

Very, very cut dry. He's dead. Okay, cool. Very, very cosby. Cool. Let's just keep going, because this is, this is getting bad. There was a, I've seen the scene before of Doret saying you're a stupid C word. I'm not going to say it.

We're not in Australia right now. But I've seen that scene in the past. What if you say it in an Australian accent? Can't do it. If we didn't have spectators right now, I would, I would, I would probably do it and then cut it out, but I'm not going to say it right now. Boy, that's what the grandmother

I lived with in Australia called her grandchildren. They were 10, 8, and 4. And she would yell that at them as they ran out. Oh, you stupid, quit mucking about. It was fucking hysterical. But anyway, she says, you were a total C word to me. And then once upon a time, I said it as a joke.

And then it cuts to a confession. And she goes, gosh, she, I think she is a stupid, fucking boom. And I was like, holy shit, we have used the C word now four times. And we're not even done using the C word because Camille's defense, like, you weren't prepared for this. No, we're not ready for this battle. And it's very clear because you go after something that, again, we all know. She's like, well, you have photo shoots.

You take so long. Your friends have to wait for you to get ready. It's like, yep, that's been to Reed since the beginning. We know that happens. That's going to continue to happen. And Dorit's like, yeah, and. and she tries to keep going in on her and she's like, I felt sorry for you in the beginning

and when you showed up with and she's trying to figure out Erica's name and Eric's like, I'm Erica, my name is Erica. And then Erica goes to a confessional and calls her C word. She just kept saying her. You showed up with her, her, her. It's like you could have just said showed up with her

and pointed and that would have been fine and moved on. It would have, but she didn't do that. Instead, she fumbles around. Erica calls Camila C-word in the confessional. so everybody's dropping the C word it was one of the most electric five minutes of TV I've seen in a while I love that Dereat calls out

Camille is all you've ever wanted was a moment is this why are you why are you even here did you need another moment I'm like god damn like where has this Doreet been I didn't know she was but at no point have we heard her this season go off on some stupid tangent she just is pointed her comebacks are on the fucking

nose. Camille might not show up on this show again. Like she just dragged her across the lawn. She didn't have any defense there. And the things that she tried to bring up were so trivial. And it's just another like, yeah, that's Doreet. What do you got here? That's all you're coming with. If you're going to enter back into this stage, it's been a while since you've been on the show, Camille. Things have changed. People go really hard now. They go below the belt instantly. I'm not saying they didn't back in the day. I know shit was heavy. back then, too. It tends to ramp up really fast now. I don't think she was prepped for it. I don't think she was ready. I think she had a couple of one-liner. She thought would be Zingers.

They did not land. Doreet ate her for lunch. And I don't know if she can come back from this. I think that she's dead after her first appearance. Yeah, I don't think that she can come back from this. She had a plan from the get-go. She was going to walk in there. People were going to feel sorry for her. It's been a while since you've seen me, but I'm back. And I've been through so much. And I'm here to help you, Kyle. I'm here to get you through what you're going through because I went through it too. And you can be here with me and I'll hold your hand the entire time. Was that really what you were going to do? Did you not think that these people who were on the show when you were on the show were going to look at you and be like, I'm going to come right back at you as soon as you

open your mouth because you and three had beef seven years ago and it never went away. As soon as she sees you, it's like she's seeing ghosts back there in the pocket. She's like, oh, shit, Camille's back. Oy, oh, I'm just going to do that. Oh, you stupid. I love happy souls and told. This Aussie wants you to.

I'm glad that one person in our chat wants me to say it. I'm not going to. No, no. I want to. I'm not going to. But I will say I do want, because how often do we get those, the uncensored reunions? Why can't we just get all of these TV?

Like every episode after, you know, a couple of days, make it uncensored so we can go know how to watch it. or just have a different category on Peacock where you can just watch unfiltered. Prentil controls. That would be great because it lands so much harder when you actually hear of the profanity. It's so much better than a bleep.

But the one thing that we can all acknowledge in this group, and I think everybody that's currently on the show, separate from Camille, they can all look around and Erica says it. We've all been through a lot. And that is true. This whole group has gone through some serious shit in the past two, three years.

Like, if you think about it, we have two separations this year. We watched Erica go to court. There's been some really heavy shit recently. So I think that that is what you aim for if you want a kumbaya moment is just the fact that there's been a whole lot of shit that's all come together. And I think at the very end, we need to work on our actions, our delivery, and not holding grudges is probably the best way to put it. I think just the last part, the grudges, because I mean,

it's not going to happen no fuck no it's a nice moment and it makes a lot of sense and there's a lot of clarity and people are probably going to respond well to it but let's be honest it's not going to happen give it a week yeah literally next week it's going to pop yeah no but that's what we watch for so i'm not i'm not at it although not next week because we figured out the schedule there's no fucking bravo on next week there's we don't know what we're going to or the week after wait there's two weeks that's not true there's no way tuesday wednesday there's no salt Lake or Beverly Hills in the next two weeks. And there's other stuff.

Yeah, I think it's just Potomac. You texted me and said there's no Bravo on next week. There is none next week. I think it's just Potomac. That's a show. That's one show. What are we supposed to do? I guess time will tell.

We'll figure it. Celebrate the holiday? Yeah. Merry Christmas. Merry goodness. Kimmiss. That's my favorite video. I love that one.

But that gets us to Has it been mentioned on the podcast? That will, that's what we're doing right now. It is time for questions, and usually we pull these from Instagram, but because we have a live audience right now, virtually, we are going to you. So we're going to answer your questions, fire off in the comments. There's a 10 second delay, so I will cut that out. But we do have one to start off with. Yeah, from Rachel Mickelis.

Has it been mentioned on the podcast yet that every housewife on Beverly Hills is single. Wonder if that's ever happened before. um we haven't said that no uh other people have pointed that out it is interesting i don't know if it's i don't think it's ever happened before i'm trying to run through in my mind maybe oh c miami no because i amy wait because alexis just got divorced or she's getting divorced from todd and nicole wasn't no nicole's off marisol marisole yeah yeah yep yep there you go o g roney oh g roney is correct. Oh, the end of OJU? Yeah, yes. Yeah. Yes. Towards the end, they were all

single. That is true. Old Tony. Old Tony. Yep. We all know old Tony. From Brooke Watney, how is Kyle How is Kyle scared of Tiffany when she clearly used Chuckie Demon Energy to summon Camille to her party? I thought why is Kyle scared? Wasn't Kyle

in a notorious horror franchise? And we heard about that all year? She's in Halloween. yeah it's a horror franchise Michael Myers it's a great scary he scares the shit out to me I'm just saying I don't know maybe it's a doll thing dolls are creepy it's a different level of creepy I agree yeah that's another funny story Riley my little sister was terrified of garden gnomes because I was watching Chucky and she oversaw me watching it last week yeah I'm just going to say it every time she's afraid of garden gnomes blame me for it because she saw Chucky at two young men age my bad uh from

jr real has the audience turned on sutton and garcell socials would indicate yes i would argue it's split right now i think that's pretty split based off of what we got last week yeah yeah i think it's split i think that what a lot of people are pointing to is will this be sutton's villain era and will that land i think that's a big question mark is can she pull that off and the jury still out on that one let's see from janey carter will y'all ever react to old seasons of beverly hills we wanted to rewatches i would rather i would much rather do roney i've been watching i watched oh g ronnie's great i've watched i watched the first season before the two-parter episode of a blue stone manor with it was like christmas themed it was so fucking good it is it's unreal it's like

you know how good salt lake was last week it's that time's like five and it's every fucking episode it's so it's so good i would love to rewatch that we'll put a vote out to our members and we'll we'll do the one you want us to do the most i would rather do rony to start out oh uh roney and then atlanta no g Atlanta is widely regarded as one of the best franchises ever so i would like to probably pop between those two but we'll put it out there and get it from you guys uh let's see from zoicoula palae did sutton and garcel misjudge how the audience is going to react to Doreet, potentially. I don't think so.

I don't think that there, I don't get that vibe from them. Now, we saw that no C with Tamara. We thought that, or Tamara thought that the audience was going to go after Shannon. So she went after Shannon. So that everybody was a clear cut case of it, yes. Yeah. I don't think that Garcell and Sutton think about what the audience is going to do. I'm pretty sure they just do whatever they want.

That makes more sense. Let's see. From William D. We'll do two more. from william d did kyle host a country theme party thinking she might be able to get morgan way to perform i thought it was an interesting choice yeah i forgot to mention that earlier i thought it was an interesting choice amidst all of the rumors and you wanting the rumors to go away to throw a country themed party when people are pointing to you potentially having a relationship

with a country music star star singer uh yeah interesting choice i don't know if it was because Did Morgan Wade perform? And they just didn't show it. I wouldn't be surprised. No, there's no way. I think that we would have heard that she was there. Interesting. I'm just, it's interesting.

We will do one more. One more question if anyone's got one in. From Liz Scarves. I had a whole ass question in my head. Damn gummy. Thanks, bros. Hey, it happens to the best of us. There we go.

One more. Well, Brooke, you already asked to him, but you know what? Someone else didn't. Is it weird? that last year, it felt like Kyle wanted no part of Mo, but now she acts like she didn't want the separation. That's a great point. Yeah.

We're seeing like a 180 in her behavior when you saw, maybe it's simply she wants Mo to care a little bit. Maybe that's all it is. I think that's kind of what it is. She wants to not be in that boat alone. That Mo Boat. That Mo Mo Mo, Mo, Mo, Mo your boat.

Gently down, divorce. Yep. Not so, Merrily, merrily, Merrily. Morgan, Mo, Mo, you're both. Oh, nice.

Yeah, I was going to tie it Morgan Wade, too. Yeah. Good job. I think I nailed it. But that wraps up our first ever live stream episode. Hopefully our audience had fun, and we will be doing this every week. Like I said, we will do this once a week from Valerie Cordera. I love you guys, even when I don't agree with you.

That's our favorite. We don't have to agree on everything. As long as you enjoy the banter, that's all we care about. It's better if you don't agree with us all the time. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. But yeah, we're doing this.

Can I finish? Jesus, it is late. I'm tired. I have a three-month-old almost. I'm sleepy. We're going to be doing this once every week, so you'll be able to join in, tell other people about it so we can get some more to join the fun. I really enjoyed this.

It's fun to get your perspective as we go. It is I will have to get used to the chat bar. going up i did get sidetracked a couple times i saw you i did but you see the difference i didn't call you out you called me out i watched you go i called you out once how many times i call you out twice how many times i call you up uh fuck off thank you all for coming out uh what show are you recapping for the live next we will let you know um we'll put out a schedule is weird around the holidays so yeah especially next week uh might be a question mark considering the holidays but uh we will put one out as soon as we figured out i'll put a newsletter out on like sunday night when we pick a show

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